Having revealed himself to be Guntuber Justin Taylor, Devil Z none the less continues to lead the Decepticons in their battle to conquer the Earth! Thread to post all things Transformers related; someone else can post the copypasta that I don't give a shit about!
>>11622002Is that Overlord figure any good?
>>11622005Definitely. Scale fags whine but he's a super solid figure and really fun to play with. The only flaw is that he only comes with one Titan Master (Giga); you have to buy the import to get both Giga and Mega (the later which has the shitty androgenous edgelord IDW face place).
Really don't like how they downsized Darkwing and Dreadwing to deluxe size. Fuck, I really hate the "make everyone deluxe for convenience" assholes
>>11622018I'm more pissed that we finally got a combiner wars Starscream at the end of the line and none of the other Seekers! He's basically a reject torso with no dedicated combiner form; just a bunch of randos
>>11622020The best part was that one of the aerialbot molds did have a alternate seeker head and cone head, but those alt heads only saw use in Japan, and barely at that. They also had a seeker head in TR, it came with the Nightbeat mold but it also only saw use in Japan.
Are Blockees compatible with the vehicles from the Action Master line? Thinking about getting Optimus Prime's Action master tractor trailer vehicle
So any chance Hasbro can take the clue about how much people hate the frame slop shut for combiners and go back to Scramble City, via making the next set of combiners be updates of the Terrorcons and Seacons? But especially the Seacons given how Americans got fucked out of getting them this first time around?
>>11622061>how much people hate the frame>implying
>>11622002Who is Justin Taylor? Is he a bondage rubber slave like one of those tabs suggest on the browser that OP is into?
>>11622071>I wish Devastator and Liokaiser had a frame>said no one, ever
Never liked how insanely huge Beast Wars Megatron and Optimus Primal are. So I picked up the two Robot Master Primal and Megatron releases. Sadly, the actual show accurate color Robot Masters are insanely overpriced if you even see them for sale online so I bought the two ghetto color Cybertron versions we got in the US. But at least they are in scale with the rest of the cast save for Dinobot....
>>11622073West Point video blogger who filmed most of his time there, then did a stint in the army as a tank gunner/ROTC guy then left the military, got divorce raped by his wife as soon as he got out of the military and now does generic military YT videos as well as writing all of Task and Purposes' YT videos for him.
Post your least favorite FOMO impulse buy: Titans Return Tidal Wave.Paid $60 loose for this fucker and regretted it. Never owned Broadside but thought the aircraft carrier mode might be cool but it sucks.
Anyone using Combiner Wars Prowl as their G1 Prowl? Still shocked that Blue streak keeps getting great treatment and all of his accessories and a unique head while Prowl can't get his shoulder guns in any of his modern incarnations
>>11622018The Dreadwind and Darkwing we got for POTP was so half-assed. They were just Aeriabot remolds that barely held together in combined Dreadwing mode. I'm hoping that the fact we're supposed to get a Joyride in AoTP means we'll get redos of these two. Preferably as Voyagers.
>>11622104At least you didn't but the whole set. Those two mega box sets from Titans Return were completely dog shit.
>>11622083They actually did release the Robot Masters Megatron and Optimus Primal in their original colors, but it was in a limited edition box set that IIRC was only available at Target or Toys R Us.
>>11622144Dreadwind is decent but they completely fucked up Darkwing. The head literally floats if you don't hook it into position just right....
Is Predaking worth getting? Never got him when he came out ages ago.
>>11622196Yes he is. The individual bots are great and the combined mode is pretty impressive
>>11622076I don't mind extra parts when they make the toy better like that.
Human Alliance line is so much fun. I really enjoyed the scout class ones, very reminiscent to Diaclone, you can turn the robot to a mech suit for the human figure.
>>11622335Except the frame doesn't and worse 1. Makes the figure look ugly2. Results in all the figures being fucked up via them splitting into two parts and not real combiners since they are just being attached to the frame instead of being actual Scramble City combiners 3. Makes the fucking torso bots way too fucking expensive to buy since they should be sold as Voyagers Only a retarded nigger faggot fake ass TF fan would like the current frame abomination combiners slop being for Ed onto us.
>>11622076I do, they would benefit from solidity offered by frame system. >>11622032No idea but they work well with titans, defenders even more.>>11622104That would be SS CE BBM Megatron>>11622196Yes or wait for new one.
>>11622133I don't have CW Prowl but I kinda want him, for a low-effort retool of Streetwise he looks pretty good!
>>11622196Absolutely not.
>>11622133Why wouldn't anyone use Combiner Wars Prowl as their G1 Prowl? Aren't they the same guy?
>>11622373If solidity mattered the most, why not just make a non combining figure. Why all the compromises to make combiner not combining.
>>11622196I would say no, but who knows what the new version would look like or when they'll get around to it. I wasn't impressed with the new Stunticons and totally passed on the Arialbots
>>11622002>Psst, hey kids. Wanna Overlord figure?
>>11622483because Americans are lazy and need parts forming
>>11622483Because they wanted to copy those lazy Chinese people who make all those frame 3p figures
>>11622483Because people like Transformers that transform, even if they do it in a way that gives you an aneurysm.I will always take a frame combiner than any of the CW ones. Cheap and shitty individual robots, wonky combiner mode with obvious thighs used as elbows, individual robot arms that don't even try to hide and the shittiest hands and feet ever that force you to buy third party crap to try to barely salvage the whole mess.>B-but frames don't combine!They do. In a different way.>B-but the individual robots do nothing!The frame by itself looks naked without them.>B-but it's cheating!Transformers combiners had ALWAYS cheated. Hands, feet, and back in the day heads and chestplates. A bunch of random crap you need to attach. But you give it a pass because that's how shitty they've always been. They actually combine all that junk together now and that's a good thing.If frames was the way these things worked since the 80s you morons would be singing praises about them. It's so obvious you know jack shit about combining robots other than the half-assed scramble city ones. Let them try different things, if you don't like them just don't buy them, but this shit got old immediately after Menasor was announced.
tennis racket
>>11622546Yaoi paddle
>>11622541Check out Machine Robo Rescue. Although not Transformers, but I think this is the perfect scramble city combiner should be (no parts-forming, no additional parts).
Bandai came up with the perfect solution for combiners. You have the option to combine as combiner should, you also have the option to swap out parts for the solidity and articulations for the combined mode.
>>11622354>he thinks he speaks for 42 years worth of fans We did it Discord!
Show us your collection of non-frame combiners. Surely you supported CW like crazy right? You must have them all since you are such an expert and so passionate about the subject
>>11622566You forgot to mention the fact this is a baby toy with zero articulation. Lol lmao even
>>11622061>>11622076>>11622354>>11622489>>11622546>accuses other people of spamming Lmao at least you confirmed youre brown.
>>11622587Check out this, five robots combine into one, fully articulated.
>>11622559Oh, now, I'm getting one.
>>11622587
>>11622595Being a tiny model kit, you are comparing apples to oranges. Metal cardbot would be a much better example, but Hasbro cant make stuff like that anymore due to corporate gluttony.
>>11622599This figure is actually neat but looks like it has no waist, is very small, and probably breaks when you play with it
>>11622428Why not? Because it's not a fake combiner like the frame slop fake combiner
>>11622587>>11622602>>11622604
>>11622354You're the fake combiner around here
>>11622602Metal cardbot is not a good comparison because the combiner set don't have individual robot mode.Go check out other releases from Bandai's Soul of Chogokin, and Goodsmile's The Gattai. Those are decent sized combiner than combine.
>>11622541>If frames was the way these things worked since the 80s you morons would be singing praises about them.not necessarily.
>>11622617I owned some of these. I thought each micromaster can swap placement for the combiner like arm can attach to shin, to chest, ..etc. But it disappointed me.If there are play patterns like what I wish, I wouldn't mind it being a frame combiner.
>>11622590The 4th one is Athena, an actual cow.
>>11622573Not the best example, SOC Choryujin was widely disliked when it came out because the amount of parts swapping was considered excessive and the high price tag. Even wotafa found it lacking, and it was one of the few times he seems to have been dissapointed with a product.
>>11622607That’s like, a $350 toy.
>>11622634Yup, sorry for using the bad example. My point is Transformers combiners can use the Bandai's method of given optional swappable parts.
>>11622637Don't take it as literal meaning of which product is better. I'm just trying to make a point that combiner in larger scale is doable.
>>11622637Yeah a few years ago. It would cost even more released now. >>11622644Sure its doable. Will it be affordable too?
>>11622653>Will it be affordable too?It will be cheaper than the current frame combiner for not using extra plastic for the frame. Think of it something like Combiner Wars 2.0 with better proportion and engineering.
>>11622061>he doesn't want frame Abominus with hydra-trailer Hun-Grrngmi>>11622076And what's the difference between Devastator and Liokaiser and the Scramble City guys? Think about it.Even with the 6 man combiners (oops, gave the answer away) you'll still get cheating. Long Haul's trailer and Jallguar's missle rack effectively serve as extra "members" anyway.
>>11622541>Transformers combiners had ALWAYS cheated. Hands, feet, and back in the day heads and chestplates. A bunch of random crap you need to attach. But you give it a pass because that's how shitty they've always been.NTA but you'd think we'd have improved on needing to cheat parts of the combiner rather than cheating even harder whilst stripping out Scramble City functionality, meaning any future Baldigus/Ruination we get out of Bruticus is gonna suck as the limb switching was something he did in the show.My take is that most of the G1 combiners are overrated as fuck anyway. Gimme an actually good Build King/Landfill update.
>>11622679Finally anon that makes valid point. After many decades they still can't make a perfect combiner.Build King/Landfill have a very unique combination gimmick that I really enjoyed, it's called Tornado gattai if I remembered correctly, able to rotate to switch between Cyclone, Hurricane and Typhoon. Also 4 robots combiner is rare in every robot brands.
>>11622637because of the metal and limited production. The engineering can be mimicked as a candy toy.
>>11622667Just add more members instead of adding frameslop
>>11622687>Also 4 robots combiner is rare in every robot brandsUnless you count 3+1There are a lot of those
>>11622732I don't count those that parts-form. I know there's a lot from Brave series.
>>11622585>Show us your collection of non-frame combiners. For me it's Studio 86 Devastator
is it me or this year /tf/ is especially full of vomit-inducing autists and faggots?It's like...nerds from our thread finally hit 40 and they became those "autistic virgin faggot that sits 24/7 and posts bullshit online".I may be wrong and it's an opposite thing - some nerdy zoomers appeared and they just live with parents and don't have a job so they have a lot of time to stealth-shitpost.I was in these threads since CW and i noticed it started being shitty when Kingdom started. Also we have a lot less anons posting their photos or just images or reaction images. Lots of shitty TXT spam arguing.Even if we had such stuff back then - at least anons used to post transformer images/memes connected to posts they were writing
>>11622775>nerds from our thread finally hit 40 and they became those "autistic virgin faggot that sits 24/7 and posts bullshit online".>some nerdy zoomers appeared and they just live with parents and don't have a job so they have a lot of time to stealth-shitpost.>I was in these threads since CW and i noticed it started being shitty when Kingdom started. So which one are you?
>>11622701So you're saying if the frame was named Billy you'd be fine with it? Weird flex.
>>11622808Frames are HFGs are on a bigger scale, retard.New members aren't frameslop, they're room for new characters and better enginnering, and if they're going to compromise individual bots like Devy did then there's no reason to compromise even further.
>>11622573that thing is ass, it barely has tabs to lock in and the few that are there are too shallow or barely fit
>>11622599This looks cool and the beastbox gimmick is interesting.
>>11622667Devestator, Predaking, Monstructor, and the Victory combiners are different from the Scramble City shit for a couple of reasons, the biggest being that Scramble City was EXPLICITLY created so kids could create a complete combiner so long as they had a torso TF and four limb bots. And the affordability thing is critical towards WHY the combiners were such a huge deal and a major part of Transformers success. And why Hasbro fucked it up royally with the frame slop. You can't really mix and match shit with frame slop because each limb is limited to which spot it goes into to the point of killing any creativity/personal preference. You can't make your own combiner nor have your preference for which figure goes in which limb spot. Adding to this, is the ultra bullshit that is torso bots now being $100 a pop; a LOT of stores don't fucking carry Commander or even Titan figures these days because no store wants to have a $100-200 shelf warming figure on the shelf that no one can afford to buy. Let alone no fans want a glorified wall accessory or a high chair for Brawl to sit into/parts to make Onslaught's actual fucking vehicle mode because they skimped on his design so he's only half the vehicle. Combiner Wars alone had huge fucking problems with people completing teams. But now it's worse. I've never seen a single torso bot at retail because of the obscene price point making stores not wanting to stock them and the price is way too fucking high for me to give a shit to buy one online. And the frame slop makes it impossible for me to do what I did as a kid with the G1 Scramble city combiners and simply piecemeal build one using what figures I could get my mom to buy me when I was a kid. It's super fucking spiteful and short sighted and kikish to a degree that it comes off as though Hasbro is actively punishing fans for the years that they have been demanding combiners come back.
>>11622838Hey, at least you're not a Masterpiece buyer. Everyone who bought first run Super Ginrai was a moron because they're already doing a second bach with a ton of impeovements. People were assuming we would get this with Nucleon Quest Convoy, but we wouldn't see these improvements on the og release until at least 2 to 3 years
>>11622838Literally just ask Santa for your torso botThey're only do one a year so it pans out
>>11622820New members for combiners is a literal trainwreck. Alpha Bravo only exists because they had to justify spending money on a helicoptor mold via giving it three uses (Alpha Bravo, Blades, and Vortex). And his character in the comics was literally just "I'm Slingshot's replacement!" Offroad and Rook had decent figures but their characters were non-existent and even then, their repaints and retools were way cooler looking with better color on the molds.
>>11622838Look at the rich city slicker that has a retail store that sells Transformers. I have a Walgreens and that's it.
>>11622838>actual history>Transformers cost more than their competitors and people were willing to pay more for that quality, resulting in Hasbro making ridiculous sums of money in 1984 and 1985>this revisionist underaged zoomer>um actually when Hasbro cheaped the fuck out and the brand was in decline, that was when they were at their PEAK success!!
>>11622853Shut up frame slop eater Scramble City was created as the new low price point figres once the Minibots ran their course. The limbs cost the same amount as a Minibot ($3-$4) and the torso cost around $10, which was the price of a regular deluxe figure in the G1 heyday. And as I stated, you just needed four limbs and a torso to make a combiner, so you could mix and match teams.
>>11622856If you had any ideas as to how to have made SS86 Devastator work without a frame and not having turned into a proportional mess like the CW set did, I'm all ears.Hercules suffers pretty hard from keeping the individual bots all in proportion, only noticing now just how emaciated he looks.
>>11622856Ok but devastator was always a frame combiner
>>11622861Frames really are such a vintage style play pattern. G1 loved using extra parts. Heck, Optimus Prime had removable fists and they weren't even spring loaded ones like Trailbreaker or Inferno had.
>>11622859Herclues is old as fuck, more recent 3P Constructicons manage to combine without having to resort to frame gimmicks, even the non-masterpiece ones.
>>11622845>replacement members are the same as old crew + new membersOk fag
>>11622585Only combiner I have is also SS86 Devastator.
>>11622775I miss the Siege days. Those were truly the best times.
>muh Scramble City
>>11622886Post your Siege collection
>>11622859Left: SOULRight: SOULLESS
>>11622838>You can't really mix and matchNot everyone cares about that. I'll take a solid and fun to handle combiner before the swapping gimmick any day.>a LOT of stores don't fucking carry Commander or even Titan figures these daysWho gives a shit about retail, get with the times and just buy online like everyone else.
>>11622859You're missing the point. Devastator was never made with the scramble formula in mind to begin with. What he's saying is the push for accuracy by having these frames and bifurcating armbots have made combiners way too expensive all for the sake of accuracy thus defeating the point of combiners which was their affordability.>Hercules suffers pretty hard from keeping the individual bots all in proportion,No shit, because they weren't thinking nor, gave a shit about the proportions when the focus wasn't there to begin with not to mention he's old as hell. It's funnier because the actual Devastator, that is trying to be proportionally accurate is squat with monkey arms.>>11622775>I was in these threads since CW and i noticed it started being shitty when Kingdom started.It was shit then too. Especially with the advent of all the post 2015 collectors praising Prime Wars due to being G1 regardless of how much of a massive downgrade the figures were and went as far as to pull revisionist bullshit about everything before.
>>11622890I didn't get Superion, is it true his legs aren't as long as Menasor's? Kinda looks like they're different sizes in the photo.
>>11622923>Who gives a shit about retail, get with the times and just buy online like everyone else.Shipping prices can be a bit of a bitch these days, on top of the fact buying at retail lets you guage things like paint problems if you can see the actual figure.I ordered Mixmaster online and he arrived with a gross paint error on his face that looked like he needed to blow his nose. I solved that by painting over it but it's still the sort of thing I prefer to buy at retail to avoid.
I regularly lurk here. What is this about frames? I have SS Devastator, is the frame Long Haul's extra cab that he carries around? Why are frames hated?
>>11622941Zoomers can't understand 90s web design so they hate frames.
>>11622941The frame debate revolves around the Scramble City combiners, Devastator isn't involved.>gimmick of Scramble City combiners is that any 1 torso bot + any 4 limb bots = combiner robot>frame style combiners (Legacy Menasor, AotP Superion and Bruticus) instead use 1 torso bot, who comes with vehicle kibble that forms a "combiner" robot, who the limb bots simply plug on to, as to better match the combiners' appearances in the G1 cartoon|it's a debate between play factor and cartoon accuracy, gimmickry and stabilitiy.
>>11622957There's really no winning with Menasor, Motormaster's transformation is just asking too much of reality.
>>11622941They aren't, it's one autist trying hard to make hatred of them a thing. He calls himself the god of combiners because only he gets to decide what a combiner is.
>>11622963You sound like such a retard. One can look at any Transformers fandom site and see the modern combiners are a subject of debate.
>>11622941Frame combiners have most of the actual combined mode being formed out of a skeleton (frame) made out of parts not formed from the actual individual robots. It kind of cheapens the thing to me; the appeal of a combiner, to me at least, is you're combining multiple guys into one big guy. When the individuals contribute very little to the actual combined form, it doesn't feel much like a combiner. It might make for a better representation of the thing on the screen, but it makes for a very dull toy.I feel like CW style combiners, but done 1 combiner per line (rather than trying to do the whole roster in one line) and with the experience the team has gained in the meantime would work. I don't even think the torso would need to be a Commander- a Leader would do the job.
>>11622962Menasor has always been the shittest combiner, the leg cars being backwards is bad, he's a giant grey brick, all the other Decepticon combiners sweep him.
>>11622968>I don't even think the torso would need to be a Commander- a Leader would do the job.I dont think you understand how gutted the budget for modern toys are in current year
>>11622018AotP Blast Off really should have been a voyager, so the back of his shuttle mode could be pulled off and attached to Bruticus' chest. But because Hasbro are lazy, Onslaught's trailer is going to have to have some random brown and purple shit in it.
>>11623001Just the way based Combiner Wars did it.
>>11622061I don't mind the frame system as a concept but Hasbro keep messing it up. Abominus and Piranacon shouldn't use a frame but Defensor could work with that system.
>>11622546The limbs should have turned into Silverbolt's G1 runway mode, instead of giving the plane an ugly extension. Although all of the new Aerialbots are a disaster so I don't know how much that would have helped. They shouldn't even bother trying to make planes in deluxe class, even if Needlenose turned out alright.
>>11622939>Shipping prices can be a bit of a bitch these days, on top of the fact buying at retail lets you guage things like paint problems if you can see the actual figure.I just buy on Amazon, free shipping and I just ask for a replacement if it has a paint defect.
>>11622939>on top of the fact buying at retail lets you guage things like paint problems if you can see the actual figure.Not when talking about titans and commanders, the ones that most rarely appear in stores.
>tfw ”frameslop” opinion spammer autist is back
>>11623002Oh, nice. So it's not like the idea hasn't ever crossed their minds. I got back into Transformers during Legacy so I haven't paid much attention to CW.
>>11622962Is it? I mean he just turns into a giant box on wheels. I don't know why Hasbro has such a hard time with him.
>>11623007>The limbs should have turned into Silverbolt's G1 runway mode,The only point of the combiner torsos ramp modes was the launching mechanism that was never realized when they ended up releasing it as transformers. I'll rather have a brick that makes a weird giant plane than a brick that does nothing other than sitting there.
>>11622941It's not as bad with the Constructions but Long Haul's extra cab does figure into it. It's basically a giant cheat piece. Granted, we saw what happens when you try to not cheat which was CW Long Haul.I personally have likes and dislikes about either method. I didn't care that CW Long Haul was so huge. I just hated his shitty articulation (which really had no reason to be since it had nothing to do with combining)I like SS Long Haul because he's more accurate and scales better and has better articulation, but is also way too expensive and his cheat piece does nothing else. It turns from a waist to a hunk of kibble on wheels. Maybe if stuff could store in it or it became a battle platform or did SOMETHING.
>>11623017I like base/building modes because it's something for smaller figures to pose around, rather than standing on a flat shelf.
>>11622966Reception has generally been positive from what I've seen. There was some debate when Menasor first came out but it's died down.
>>11623002What are you smoking, Blast Off didn't form Bruticus chest in CW, nor the shitty original aerialbot repaint nor the later shuttle one.>>11623012Don't be fooled by that guy, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>11622845Rook was the only justifiable one, because we still had Groove and he was a more believable size. Plus Rook was just a kickass figure
>>11623012>>11623027Onslaught had random purple and brown shit on it, and that's the superior way to do it because CW.
>>11623030That's not CW you retard, that's Takara's Unite Warriors.
>>11623032>the random purple and brown shit looks betterGoddamn, Hasbro really did make the ugliest toys before they did that whole "brand unified" thing.
>>11623035I accept your copecession. Have fun paying more for frameslop Onslaught than the entire CW Combaticons ran for.
>>11623038Better frameslop than jetslop
>>11623035CW Onslaught was just staying true to the G1 toy colors, which was pretty drab.One of the few times I can say the toon colors were an improvement.
>>11623040Would be an improvement were it not for the chest. Should have been silver, not trying to imitate the retarded cartoon shuttle chest which they didn't even get right.
>>11623038The CW Combaticons weren't much good to begin with.
>>11623046Brawl sucked but I remain fond of the rest. The set really shines as Baldigus.
>>11622061>how much people hate the frame slopDon’t speak for all of us.
>>11623054No one actually likes frameslop. You just tolerate it because Hasbro is too cheap to make something better.
>>11623063It's framegourmet.
>>11622838>You can't really mix and match shit with frame slop because each limb is limited to which spot it goes into to the point of killing any creativity/personal preference. You can't make your own combinerAnon this might shock you but some people (dare I say, MOST people) don't care about that. I don't want to "make my own combiner", I want a Menasor, Bruticus, Defensor, etc.>And the frame slop makes it impossible for me to do what I did as a kid with the G1 Scramble city combiners and simply piecemeal build one using what figures I could get my mom to buy me when I was a kid.Ok, read that last bit aloud to yourself and see what's wrong with it. You can't tell me that doesn't sound ridiculous.No one is in favor of Hasbro's price gouging. But I hate to tell you, if you're an adult you should really be able to afford to complete a combiner and not rely on the same economic model of piecemealing what your mom got for you back then as a grown man now.
>Filter frameslop and slop>thread becomes instantly better
>>11623007>Although all of the new Aerialbots are a disasterHow? Why?More hyperbolic, attention-seeking nonsense.
Anybody who slurps CW only do so because they are comparatively bigger in size, all the combiners had horrendous stability
>>11623072>How? Why?The fact that they can't actually turn into the limbs?The fact that Silverbolt has a giant plastic tumor that's useless outside of combined mode?The fact that the alt modes look like bricks with planes sitting on top of them?The fact that Fireflight is a cheap Slingshot repaint?The fact that the frame completely fucks with the combiner proportions?Take your pick.
I got Generations Cyclonus (animation colors) and Scourge in the mail today. A guy sold them to me for $1 each and they're pretty awesome.
>>11623086>A guy sold them to me for $1 each and they're pretty awesomeNo fucking way
>>11623069>Anon this might shock you but some people (dare I say, MOST people) don't care about that. I don't want to "make my own combiner", I want a Menasor, Bruticus, Defensor, etc.Go and collect Blokees instead
>>11623080>The fact that the frame completely fucks with the combiner proportions?>He said, forgetting how absolutely shit the CW one looked
>>11623091No see CW was made to appeal to the Beast Wars fans, that's why ever combiner had dangling gorilla arms
>>11622061You have to accept that people who collect for playability are a minority.Most of the people, even here, collecting Transformers buy shit, pose it one or two times, then send it to the shadow realm of the Transformers bin/dusty shelf/closet drawer. That's the majority and that's the kind of collector that doesn't mind a figure being shit as long as the mode they'll pose thrice at best looks 70 percent like the cartoon and can, allegedly, be stable
Combiner Wars/Unite Warrior Advantage:- Scramble city (can form arm/leg)- Cost cheaper (1 voyager, 4 deluxe)Disadvantage:- Proportion- Articulation Frame CombinerAdvantage:- Proportion- ArticulationDisadvantage:- Scramble city- Frame that make up the entire body- Expensive (1 commander, 4 deluxe)To me, I don't like both. I was hoping for Combiner Wars 2.0 with better proportion and articulation from a new engineering and deaign.
The easiest fix to the mess that are frame combiners would be to make the torso bots old leader class sized and allow for the combiner limbs that come out of them to extend past the limb bots like MMC's Defensor but allow the limb bots to actually for the limbs.This shouldn't be hard, fucking Diaclone did it, but the chinks threw the first punch and everyone rolled with that bullshit. It goes to show how little this fandom cares about their toys being toys.
>>11623080As I said, hyperbolic nonsense.
>>11623102A lot of shills seem inorganic, like it was from Hasbro employees making psyops online to help with their product sales.
>>11623090>you are not...LE REAL FANI've been into Transformers since before you were born anon.
>>11623091You think SS86 Devastator and Haslab Liokaiser look like shit? Weird take desu.>>11623103Facts aren’t hyperbolic nonsense.
>>11623101Those scrapped torso bots by Toyworld had the right idea and there's no good reason why Hasbro couldn't steal the concept.The most oddly overlooked flaw of Combiner Wars were the limb bots being cheap as shit, which these don't fix, but could be remade to have ratchets at the knees and hips or have gap covers as part of their transformation. The torsos could be fixed but until they fix that other thing it would be moot. This was a good chance to do all of that but they wasted it.>>11623106It wouldn't surprise me. Too many corporations today would rather spend millions in PR before spending half a million to find qualified people to make a good product.
>>116231071. Don't assume you are older2. Age has nothing to do with anything.
>>11623110>You think SS86 Devastator and Haslab Liokaiser look like shit?NTA but those look so bad it made me angry at the time. A customizer could do better with a Unicron crotch and hot glue.
>>116231151. Fine, then tell me your age so I don't have to assume. I'm 45; how old are you?2. Yes it does, because someone who got into Transformers long after I did doesn't get to tell me that I'm "being a fan wrong".
>>11623110Devy is a little topheavy but fine, Liokaiser genuinely looks terrible
>>11623117Why can't you be like the cool guy Protoman from Slag Podcast? He is too in his 40's but he is more knowledgeable in these stuffs better than you. Most importantly he doesn't force his opinion on to others to win an argument.
>>11623110>You think SS86 Devastator and Haslab Liokaiser look like shit? Weird take desu.>Comparing combiners who use two guys for the torso and still need an extra a crotch piece to scramble city style combinersApples and oranges anon.
If Athena, fucking Athena, could do a decent looking Liokaiser that uses two bots for the torso Hasbro has no excuse.
>>11623127>Apples and oranges anon.You're right. The scramble city style combiners have even less of a reason to use a frame than Devastator does because they don't have to hold up two bots worth of mass. Turns out frameslop is even worse than I thought.
So which seeker color scheme you guys like the most
>>11623132Out of the ones that were actually characters, it's between Ramjet and Dirge.Mob ones, I really like the green one with the grey chest and trousers from Ultimate Doom.
>>11622085So is he any good or are his videos preachy try hard crap?
>>11623167He's generally apolitical though his ROTC videos and his "it is what it is" videos on the purging of Confederate shit during BLM gave the impression he's a liberal hiding his power level given how much of guntub is conservative. His West point videos were neat and a lot of them are to e porn type random footage sped up and set to public domain techno. That said, his appearance on Unsubscribed gives the implication that he might be a closet racist given the story he had about dealing with blacks in the military amd his general mystery meat nature (his bio dad is dead/no photos of him are online, just of his step dad) and he looks either like a really swarthy Italian or a half jeet type, indicating some self loathing. But in general Taylor is one of the more normal gubtube guys on YT.
>>11622859>SS86 Devastator>not a proportional messA bunch of cheating, size class bumping, bad alt modes, wonky bot modes and they still couldn't make a good looking Devy
>>11623238Alt modes are better than the CW one.
>>11623124Dude you are a fucking lame.
>>11623251Hes been absolutely owned at least 3 times in this thread alone, and keeps moving the goal and coming back gor more like a bot
>>11623238I dunno i find the bot modes better than CW
>>11623249>>11623262Like, good? but are people really buying this only to have a solid Constructicons lineup and a terrible looking Devy?
>>11623251Whatever man. You can enjoy the current frame combiners all you want. All I wish for is the return of scramble city gimmick when they remake combiners again (if that would happen, otherwise I will go to 3rd party for it).
>>11623249>>11623262Who mentioned CW Devy? Titan Class tooling/budgeting constraints was always a terrible match for combiners. Except maybe Rail Racer, he could probably pull it off.
>>11623265>terrible looking DevyI like how it looks. The massive upper body fits a brute like him, and it doesn't have extremely long lower legs and puny thighs or the ridiculously small elbow joints of the CW one.
>>11623272UW Devy was good when you restore the functionality Hasbro's bean counters gutted from it. The problem is the alt modes are bad because CW had this weird idea people wanted strip mining construction vehicles instead of normal construction vehicles.
>>11623265I agree CW looks way better but SS86 Devy still looks pretty decent
>>11623278>CW looks way betterHow? Every single proportion problem you can have with the SS86 one is present on the CW, and that one had even more problems like the pathetic upper legs. Dude has his knees so high up he would barely be able to walk.
YO!
>>11623292Not only that but the Scavenger arm looks like a pancake on the CW one The SS86 hides it better with the excavator arm being more posable and resting against it. It's an illusion but it really makes it look way better.
>>11623298Oh shit a fucking g1 deluxe optimus
>>11623298Wow thats nuts! There is even AotP figures in there. Who is that, bottom right packed with Slingshot? Is that Alchemist? Also who is that packed with Cosmos?
>>11623271I don't have attachment to any cartoons, I don't buy toys based on my attachment to characters. I just don't care.I mostly enjoy combiners because of the play patterns. I find robot toys that can only perform transformation in two modes dull. I will buy robot toys that can do many things, that is the appeal for me.That said, i would like to have another remake of scramble city type combiners, it doesn't necessarily have to be G1 again. It can be those from Superlink/Energon.
>>11623318I still think energon barricade is one of the best torsobots we ever got. Only thing that could be better would be some accordioning panels on the forearms to cover the head in alt mode.
>>11623329I like Buildron. Although not the best looking of the three combiners. I liked it because it's cool to see Devastator as scramble city type combiner. I also like the bucket forming the shoulder pad, I really like that design.
>>11623353Steamhammer's problem is that his alt mode is kinda goofy, but his bot and torso modes are pretty cool.
>>11622196Not the new oneHunt and old one or go Wei Jiang Oversize
>>11622585Big Fish
>>11623098>You have to accept that people who collect for playability are a minority.no>>11623069>Anon this might shock you but some people (dare I say, MOST people) don't care about that. I don't want to "make my own combiner", I want a Menasor, Bruticus, Defensor, etc.dumb dead inside boomersyou are literal minority
>>11623265>terrible looking DevyCartoon accurate Devastator looks like shit anyway. I'd rather they just have solid constructicons
>>11623528>tries to act like he's not like this>literally has Abominus and doesn't have him using other limbsYou are the dumb dead inside boomer.
>>11623556>literally has Abominus and doesn't have him using other limbsSo what? it's an old ass photo.Here is another one:god you are fucking dumb as fuck you absolute boomoid
>>11623132Skywarp and Dirge, Red Wing was cool too.
>>11623571>what, you mean you build the actual characters over making up your own chimeras?>that's so DUMB, so are le boomer, etcWhat a strange reaction to have. Is this some kind of trauma response?Were you raped by someone who owns a full combiner roster and if so, did you like it? You fucking faggot.
>>11623669>boomoid starts talking about rape when out of argumentsWhat a degenerate.fuck off. I'm sure your whiny kids/wife need some attention - chop chop
>>11623098>You have to accept that people who collect for playability are a minority. women yes, they just jerk off to starscream porn
Bought potp battleslash and roadtrap. I can say it is the best double combiner in Transformers.
>>11623716I was thinking about those fuckers today, they're fun.
>>11623098>that's the kind of collector that doesn't mind a figure being shitI do mind about that, that's why I didn't buy a single CW mold.
>>11623722I really liked it. But I afraid of yellowing on the white plastic.
I never bought ToyHax before and i still need to buy Mixmaster but damn ...the final Devastator filled with toyhax stuff looks like a completely different toy. It's so cool.But damn...each toyhax part is expensive - around deluxe price. What the hell man... you can just start buying into Bruticus instead of Devastator toyhax stickers...
>>11623768But man the toyhax "real world signs" on these constructicon vehicles look so cool and add so much life!I probably not gonna buy them
>>11623768>>11623770Damn, not normally a fan of ToyHax but those are pretty cool.Anyway. Pardon the slightly shitty phone pic but I thought I'd get out all my BW guys for a photo (including Armada Predacon who's standing in as a "Player 2" TM Megatron- I'm giving him a pass because he's a BW mould). I realize now I forgot to include my Armada Terrorsaur, derp.
>>11623686>haha, you have a wife and kids?>LOSER!Not really the flex you think it is anon. The absolute state of CWcels.
>>11623839>blue bug with green legsIt's on my next to buy list
>>11623861Insecticon/Kuwagiger is amazing. Definitely worth it.
>>11623863i also wante B'Boom (in fact he's my most wanted BW-figure right now) but he's so rare to get in compete condition (but nothing that problematic - hes not expensive or anything i would get him already if not exausting SS86 figures and their prices)
Mechs and cars
>>11623888Anyone collects human alliance and/or binaltech/alternity? These are some of the best Transformers toylines.
>>11623888Wow that mech with pilot sitting inside is so cool.holy shit it's great.
>>11623921You can check out Human Alliance Whirl and Thunderhead. I bought these only for the mech suit mode, really enjoyed these.
>have Devastator almost finished>just need to buy 1 leg>want to finish Devastator this year >feel excited (yay big toy for Christmas!)>don't want to overspend on toys>Oh i knoe! :) i will buy with Klarna - it's just 14bucks x3 times payment! :) 14 bucks is nothing :)>open Klarna>Ebay App on cheapest option (and a coupon discount holy shit bros!)>hehe Devastator here i gooo! :)>...>.....>...............................>forget to click on "Buy with KLARNA" and just buy it like that spending moneyfuckim a total idiot...what the fuck... Well at least i finished Devastator. But i'm also broke now.I bought Hook+Long Haul yesterday. So i just spend around 200+ bucks on toys.i needed those.At least i'm a happy idiot
>>11622083The Robot Masters beast leaders and the Cybertron beast leaders are completely different molds.
>>11622083>>11623953Top: Robot MastersBottom: BW 10th, which WERE released in the US, and were redecoed into the Cybertron versions.
>>11623768>>11623770Would look better with less stickers and most of them (like the warning stripes) not being metallic. That makes me think of one of those old Chinese KOs with ugly preapplied stickers and tons of nonsensical chrome, toyhax sets and buyers always go overboard. Sometimes less is more.
>>11623962You can just chose not all of them but the best ones.they just giving you the options.with those stickers Devastator looks just like I imagined it in a "realistic movie" (not a Bay-one - current SS86 toy looks realistic enough - imagine it with slightly more details and upscaled for a movie) A huge monolith with light bulbs, headlights, and signs. God, how I'd love to see a movie with something like that...
>>11623950>tfw 50eur is the cheapest option for Bonecrusher now>tfw i bought him for 24euros when he was newDamn okay maybe i spent too much money on toys but at least i will be less stressed.You can always find more money. but you can't find cheaper transfomers these days
>>11623966>You can just chose not all of them but the best ones.>they just giving you the options.The thing is, most of the time people use all of the sheet and it looks terrible. Not only that but you're paying for overpriced stickers when half of them aren't even needed and the rest are all metallic even when it doesn't make sense and makes the whole thing look like a cheap bootleg.Just the ones on the chest and waist and some of the stripes would be enough. The moment you can't grab a toy without touching a sticker you know you turned it into an eyesore.
>>11623970>Ebay Why would you even check there. He's at 30 euros on Amazon.
>>11623974*36which is almost 40 eur i guess.Point still stands - better buy transformers resh and new so you won't overpay for it later.
>>11623979>*36Not in my country, he's 30 here
Still waiting for Monstructor(he's been announced)WELL, WHERE IS HE?
>>11623090>>11623528>>11623571>>11623686The Virgin Prime Wars Combiner>spindly, skinnyfat physique which can barely hold a pose>readily whores itself out to other combiner pieces for "le wacky creative play pattern">both combined form and components often only vaguely resemble the characters they're supposed to bevsThe Modern FrameCHAD>imposing physique with heroic proportions means it is a standout on any shelf>takes all manner of poses with cat-like agility and grace>can still reluctantly integrate rival combiner limbs if you absolutely insist>commander class torso bot weeds out poors and other undesirables>a proud idealized version of popular characters from classic TF fiction, combining (heh) elements of cartoons/comics and original toys
>>11624020It might help if you transformed the combiner wars one correctly
>tfw i will get Devastator this christmasfeels good
>>11624027I did. And it fucking falls apart on its own in a strong wind. None of the limb bots hold together.Keep in mind Abominus was the BEST of the old style combiners.
>>11622859THIS DESIGNATION NIGGA ENTITY NEEDS FRAME SLOP TO ACHIEVE COMBINATION [LOUD SIMULATED LAUGHTER.MP4]
>>11622890>>11622934I made this awhile back for some Anon in thread and yes. Superion's leg's ARE shorter
My wish?I want a 7th Constructicon - based on this vehicle.He should be green and G1 SS86 style. and be a weaponizer to buff-up Devastator.Damn i really wish we had one...
>>11624041This isn't even a mobile pic. Why did it flip? Huhh????Does it need resizing?
I just want a modern Abominus since I don't own one and he's the only classic combiner that looks cool to me...
>>11624052is bruticus not cool to you huh, HUH??
>>11624044Yes and no. Superion's shins (the part "made" from the limb bots) are shorter, but Menasor's thighs are shorter. From hip joint to bottom of the toe, Menasor and Superion are both just about exactly 7 inches (I just measured them both).
>>11624052Despite my earlier owning of CWcels I do like the last Terrorcon set. The beast modes are great and I love the colors.We don't know yet if they'll do a new Abominus (I figure eventually, but not anytime soon). But if brightly colored freaks are your thing we do have a new Monstructor coming for an "Abominus at home" option.I just want to see a frame Abominus because hydra mode Hun-Grr with 7 heads would be SICK.
Looking to get a road rage and I saw a reasonably priced second hand one, but then I noticed what looked like a sheared/worn out peg hole or something. Tell me this is dust and the shoulder isnt gaped and to be avoided
>>11624001>>11624012>>11624020>>11624025>Fails to get his shitty post right three timesFramesisters...I don't feel so good...
>>11624069That's your counterargument anon? Really?Once I caught a typo I wanted to fix, and blame the rest on 4chan's shitty quote function. The real question is, how many tabs of this thread have you had opened and for how long to even be able to quote that? You just sit here all day refreshing and watching?CWcels aren't sending their best, folks...
>>11624076That was my first reply to you in this thread, dummy.
>>11624080And? You're not off to a good start.
>>11624083I am not the anon you've been arguing with is what I'm saying. I don't think CW or frameslop are good combiners. In fact I don't think the G1 combiners are very good and they definitely don't need super-accurate toys.
>>11624087>I don't think CW or frameslop are good combiners.>in fact I'm so neutral I'll jump in to make an autistic gotcha post attempt against only your sideHike down your skirt and sit down anon.
>>11624061It looks a bit fucked up
>>11624061Sadly kingdom tracks is plagued by shit like that
>>11624088>MY shitty attempt at combiners is so much better than the OTHER shitty attempt at combiners!Grow up.
>>11624025SeetheCW-styled combiners are the best.
>>11624093>the best>Those leg-elbows>Those ugly feet and hands>Can't even be bothered to hide the individual robots arms>Awkward as fuck all aroundEven Galvatron's face shows how uncomfortable he is
>>11624096>his frameslop formers can't be used as giant Mechstop kek framesloppers on sudoky watch!
>>11624093Pic unrelated?What am I even looking at here and why would I ever want to build that?
>>11624096You should have just said how that figure wouldnt actually be able to lift its arm and keep it lifted
>>11624098Well, they can be used as solid action figures at least. The same can't be said about the CW ones.
>>11624100>What am I even looking at here and why would I ever want to build that?>boomoid can't understand the concept of "fun">>11624102frameslop just sucks anonIt's basically statues for "c o l l e c t o r s" that want some childhood-based slopCW is for real fun enjoyers.
>>11624108So you're a manchild who LITERALLY "plays" with his toys, but at the same time you can't use your imagination enough to suspend disbelief that a "frameslop" combiner's arm or leg is "really" made from the entire limb bot.Imagine being this autistic, while also being imagination-mogged by small children.
>>11624089Sadly so, I can't tell if it's a hollow pylon bent out or a solid one that has really been fucked, no experience with the mould.>>11624090Is that so? I did some quick reading and legs, chest/window panel joints could be floppy, is there anything else it suffered from? Also if anyone here has the mould, tracks or rage, could you perhaps take a photo or two please with close ups on those shoulder pylons?
>>11624114>So you're a manchild who LITERALLY "plays" with his toysYeahi'm that based
>>11624076Imagine caring about proper grammar, punctuation or sentence structure at one of the scandinavian seaports for the largest ocean of piss
>>11622890Yes
the MAIN reason why i don't like frameformers is that i can't buy 4 of the same robots like here >>11624108 to build a themed combiners.Like...you can't build a Tankotron made of 4 Brawls. this sucks
>>11624119See, this bone thing is cool, but that's what they were actually meant for. Fossilizers are not combiners.As some fag earlier (probably you kek) told me to collect blokees instead, maybe you would be happier collecting legos.
>>11624120Imagine not, especially when the wrong word choice kills the meaning of the sentence and the whole punchline of a joke.Also, why is your Superion rubbing his crotch?
>>11624114>He doesn't actually play with his toysI used to sit in my room home alone nearly and take Armada Tidal Wave, rotate his waist and have him Spiderwalk cause it looked like a Halo Scarab to me and I'd make noises and have this Micro Machine Stormtrooper (Who I headcanon'd as a Spartan) fight him and others
>>11623110When Hastak revealed SS86 Devastator I instantly preordered the entire Mecha Invasion Giant Legion set. When Liokaiser was announced I died a little because I was reminded of Mech Ideas no longer existing, So yes, those toys looks like absolute donkey shit. The new Superion is ass too.
>>11624126>anons got pissed on by 2 different anons>starts imagining that it's just 1 anon because he can't stand a thought that many people making fun of himframe slop bros..not like this...
>>11624127Tonight...You
>>11624137>OrthiaImagine thinking this abomination actually looks cool.
>>11624118>is there anything else it suffered from?about 60% of the figure is clear painted plastic
>>11624143My brother in the matrixWHAT?
>>11624061Dust
>>11624148He's right. The top of the car on the Tracks/Road Rage mold, from the back of the car all the way to the start of the hood, is just one piece of clear plastic unfolded out.
BROS IT'S UP!!
>>11624154I'm really hoping that's the case, I may just have to message the seller and ask for a better photo but then I'll feel weird about walking his asking price down after.Another angle from the two photos on offer>>11624156Oh that can't be good, I hear painted clear plastic, especially for window bits and the more it moves and covers is pretty crack/damage prone, has the mould been bad for it since its release?
>>11624164>has the mould been bad for it since its release?I've been lucky with mine but there are lots of horror stories out there. You have to be very careful with them. I only transformed my Tracks once, he was shipped to me as a car and I did it one time to make him a bot, and a bot he will stay. It sucks because him and Road Rage look good in both modes but it's risky to get them there.I'm always careful/lucky and thought the problems with clear plastic were exaggerated, until just the other day I broke my Earthrise Wheeljack lol.
>>11624159Nobody caresGo shill elsewhere
>>11624159>that white backgroundenjoy your attention to detail
>>11624023It's GS for 2026, so wait a bit longer.>>11624029Same, Mixmaster will be somewhere in december.>>11624159I hate his new video style, from start to Legacy 1 was great. Now it's cut-cut-cut-cut with empty talk. I used to like him a lot more back then.
>>11624171My condolences on your wheeljack, where did he break? But a shame otherwise, I found out burnout and road rage were friends, so I wanted to pick rage up to join the little box honda convoy because they know how to sucker me into getting more bots, but between tracking one down for a decent price given the issues and the issues themselves I might pass
>>11624159huhi dont knowI think it's a major downgrade. I'm not a fan of bayformers and i actually bought the previous Barricade because it looked so fucking COOOl- it looked buff and big- it looked like it's some soldier wearing boots and uniform- overall he looked just "stylish"the new one is a bunch of hollowness and...looks cheaper and more simple and SMALLERwhat the fuck how stupid is this. The old one is betterEven the preview of this picture instantly makes you think "the right one looks STRONG"
>>11624186sorry, Crosscut* not burn out
>>11624164>has the mould been bad for it since its release?Kingdom track reportedly was made by scraps and leftover molds, apart for the clear pastic, it is bad due to weird articulation limitations and shitty QC
>>11624186>My condolences on your wheeljack, where did he break?The little piece of clear plastic inside his leg that comes out for the windscreen. It would often pop off the leg, but this time the actual plastic sheared in half. So my Jack isn't much good in car mode anymore (which I loved) unless I pretend it's battle damage and he got his window shot out.Road Rage has a nice headsculpt and colors though, so if you want another fembot and/or diaclone bot to pal around with Burnout you could do a lot worse. Just be gentle with her.
>>11624188Is there even a reason for Generations Bayverse toys? Weren't the general release ones pretty much on par in terms of design and articulation.
>>11624188>the new one is full of ball joints>the old one is full of proper joints>fists are different color, articulated with knuckles the new one is fucking BARF
>>11624025>>11624076>>11624096This general deserves better shitposts
>>11624220>tfw you will never be able to make the new Bruticus made of 4 tanksfuck frame slop
>>11624220No, it really doesn't.>shitty Galvatron combined with 4 shitty jet Blast Offs>this is cooler than a good looking combiner that can stand because uh reasons
>>11624198That's too bad, tracks and his redecos deserve better than some ramshackle mishmash>>11624201Oh ouch, I'll have to be extra careful with mine then, a second hand kingdom (or earthrise can't recall but same mould) one that I picked up for a decent price when I was building up my collection. She does looks nice, and the linking up with other diaclone cars is hard to pass up considering I was making a little convoy for my autobots. Hopefully you can live with your wheeljack and his damage, be it from a shootout or one of his macguffin of the week inventions gone wrong, he's a neat little car.
>>11624123Why would you buy four of the same toy?
>>11624244Autism.
>>11624235My schizo CW 'biner is SOVLFVL and VNIQVEYour "good-looking" frameslop is SOVLLESS
>>11622354>combiner frames aren't real combinersSo Devastator, Monstructor, Dinoking, and all the Micromasters teams aren't real combiners because they don't all directly connect to each other?
>>11622354>and not real combiners since they are just being attached to the frame insteadWhat difference does it really make when you're just attaching pieces of plastic together either way, nigger?>Makes the fucking torso bots way too fucking expensive to buy since they should be sold as VoyagersHave you tried not being poor?
https://news.tfw2005.com/2025/11/13/black-friday-transformers-bundles-found-at-walmart-551455Man, that Tarantulas refuses to die. I mean, he's good, but wow.
>>11624188STAY WINNIN
>>11624290holy shit an old OG-anoni remember you posting this exact picture YEARS AGO and wiritng "stop resisting citizen!".
>>11624244>why would you buy 4 of the same toyArmy builders
>>11624292Yea I had him for so longTLK gave us some 10/10 releases and then it feels like for some of them we haven't peaked since>Voyager Megatron>Voyager Hound>Voyager Evasion Optimus>Deluxe BarricadeThose are perfect nearly
>>11624294Brawl isn't an army builder though. He's a dude.
>>11624301>>11624290>>11624188i still have my Barricade and this toy is 1000/100wtf is this new one. Fuck off the new one. How could they mess it up and make it smaller?
>>11624303>boomoid with no imaginationsucks to be you
>>11624303Imo, any character can be army builded.
>>11624309
>>11624313Making a robot a soulless thing with no personality is no imagination.
>>11624316If there were characters I wanted to collect multiples of, there'd be a long, LONG list ahead of fucking Combiner Wars Brawl.
Scavenger in, Deluxe Primal on the way. I got a busted Mega Cheetor in a Lot, wonderong if I should parts-fix him or just buy a new one. Also got a Heckobot missing his right arm. I've been glazing Beast Machines pretty unashamedly... but I don't think getting Geckobot's right arm can save that toy. He is bad, even by the standards of the time.
>>11624220Wish so bad that we had gotten the starscream version of the cyclonus mold. The details and proportions are so much better than on his dogshit potp mold. Even the galvatron head is literally just coronation starscream without any tooling change...
Logos Prime, the forgotten Prime. I don't like Optimus as one of the Primes so I replaced him with this guy. Star Convoy is just another form of Prime's from further in the timeline.
>>11623839Eyy! I got all of my (modern) beastie boys out too! There's nothing like digging out your favorites and handling them every once in a while. Good stuff.
>>11624371Ew, inferior Hasbro slop color schemes.
>>11624371I really should rebuy these. The only ones I didn't really like was Terrorsaur and Skywarp. Not a big fan of that Airazor mold desu. Shame too because Terrorsaur was one of my favorites from the original toyline and show
>>11624369based
>>11624330Ok
>>11624369That's Soundblaster.
>>11624375
>>11624371Reissue of Terrorsaur now
>>11624416Are you going to seriously say the Hasbro versions of the BW cast look better? Only the Terrorsaur/Rattrap set is skippable because Terrorsaur is not as good and Rattrap is too small so anything they do with him is irrelevant.>>11624413He was given a more thorough backstory, which is better than "Optimus Prime is a reborn Transformers deity and how he keeps coming back".
>>11624438No I don't even disagree with you that the Takara versions are better but the "duhh slop" shit is tiresome, not to mention getting bitchy when someone finally posts some OC.Whatever just call me a fag already for caring.
>>11624438The perception of the 13 as deities bugs the fuck out of me. Primus and Unicron are deities, the 13 are just really strong guys that can perceive and sometimes direct the lives of alternate versions of themselves. They are the more occult, magical part of a mostly science fiction franchise, and even to that extent they are fairly tame compared to the likes of other massive franchises.It's like...>we are God's!>this guy can manipulate time!>this guy can flex his body around really good!>this guy can do alchemy!>this guy is literal robot Jesus sometimes!
>>11624444Seeing 100% Hasbro display without including obvious Takra improvements (which isn't many these days) is just so jarring and "poorfaggy". Even if you don't like the Premium Finish G1 release3s the BW versions are just massive improvements so it's always jarring to see those and it just falls in with casuals posting their collections because they don't go deeper into the hobby to get better looking figures.It's like looking back at Classics/Generations collections and seeing people display obviously terrible domestic releases like Universe Smokescreen instead of the Japanese release. Even if you can't afford to spend that much every time, some releases simply demand being imported and seeing an all Hasbro set when there's better options available is laughable to look at.
>>11624456That's the point. They're regular guys in their own time. Only elevated higher by time. They're not special.
>>11624456>this guy is a fucking manletPrimus made him wrong, as a joke
>>11624472What guy? You replied to the wrong post.
>>11624137Holy shit, that monstrosity is getting burned in my eyes. And that's saying something when the first Transformers I owned were Euro G1 and G2 toys so I'm actually pretty used to neon colors.But damn, that's next level.
>>11624479No he didn't, more like you lack reading comprehension.
>>11624137It's impossible not to see a decapitated Elita doing a handstand.
>>11624375I saw that. Expect a CoalLords Magneous instead of that shiny new hot wheels crossover like you'd asked for. Hopefully, you've learned your lesson.
>>11624369Is that an original Soundblaster, not a custom? Based
>>11624486There's is nothing about his post that was about one specific character, retard. He complained about the 13 overall. He called out Vector, Amalgamous, Alchemist and the 13th as a group.
>>11624499Yes, I got him pretty cheap before the 13th started landing in the US.
>>11624276Don't compare antique toys with modern toys. They have different design and engineering philosophy.
>>11624472More like>this guy gives you super powers and fits in the palm of your hand
>>11624509>old toys are real combiners when they use this engineering but new toys aren't real combiners if they reuse similar engineeringok autismo
>>11624501Anon complained about the group as a whole, none of them are exempt. >this guy is a woman!>this guy is a traitor!>this guy is a traitor on fire!
>>11624501You couldn't infer the manlet post was about Micronus?You know...another of the 13?
>>11624519>the guy who is canonically the smallest of the 13, comparable to Minicon size because Minicons allegedly came from him is too bigok retard
>>11624456They were originally just "the original 13 Transformers" in the old Marvel G1 continuity, though none of them were ever named or seen except for one who was later retconned as Prima (and he looks nothing like the modern toy of course).I like the 13 existing in universe as a sort of in-universe TF Greek pantheon for the later Cybertronians to worship. But the mystery thirteenth definitely doesn't need to be Optimus. If anything, given the whole mystery identity and "prophesized chosen one" thing, it should really be RODIMUS if anyone.
>>11624524What the fuck are you talking about you autist?What part of "Primus made him a manlet as a joke" implies he is too BIG? I swear the autism in this general is off the charts, even for 4chan standards.
>>11624347>>11624350>>11624357>>11624358>>11624359>>11624361>>11624363>>11624365>>11624367Please do this with all 13 at once when they're out.
>>11624516You misunderstood me, I prefer modern combiners. I'm just stating that antique combiners due to limitations at their time, suffer in many ways.I really don't like people wanting the old compromised design be brought back because of their nostalgia reason. Those are obviously inferior compare to what modern engineering and design can accomplish.Using additional parts to combine in today's age is just lazy design.
>>11624554For example, why is Devastator after 40+ years still requires additional parts to make up the forearms, chest piece and hips?DX9 Hulkie have everything built-in to the design that don't require additional parts to combine. That should be what the modern design be moving towards.
>>11624554I don't think old toy mechanics should be brought back just because of nostalgia, but claiming new toys that use old mechanics are real is retarded. At least modern engineering is producing combiners that are fucking rock solid, articulate and doesn't leave the individuals a poorly compromised mess. Some of the engineering complexity being shifted to partsforming may not be favorable, but it's producing good toys regardless of whether people approve of the implementation. The frames/extra parts all interact with the figures, transform and of things. People may not approve of the fact that these parts exist in the first place, but they still all fit into the Transformers landscape.>>11624579Because 3p pricing doesn't work at mainline pricing. Even at Legends scale. Mainline budgets are tight, what 3p can do is irrelevant.
>>11624589Budgeting reason are really just excuses. You know when they added parts count and complexity of a figure, they'll just bump up the price to higher class price point. Also, the fans don't really matter about the cost. You'll see arguments everywhere calling people poorfag etc for not buying the products they deemed superior despite the price.
>AOTP bruticus is using the fuck-ugly blast off chestplate instead of the silver chestplateI get it's cartoon accuratebut it sucks, and they're willing to make things in the mainline toy-accurate when it looks better (legacy sandstorm's faceplate for instance)might actually consider buying an upgrade kit if bruticus doesn't have opening hands as well like superion
>got Sunstreaker>still color mismatchedawesome.
defend this
>>11624673I will defend it when I see it on the bruticus arm
>>11624673I will not defend this until I see a better color scheme
>>11624673frameslop is so fucking stupidit can’t be that hard to make blast off and vortex voyagers and just make them the actual fucking armsor AT LEAST do it the way third parties do it and not make it a blatantly obvious cheat with vehicles sitting on top of massive arm blocks
in defense of frame combiners: the aerialbot deluxes are all amazing individual figures and well worth the sacrifice in my opinion
>>11624689>AT LEAST do it the way third partiesAnon... where do you think the idea for frame combiners came from?
>>11624692Evidently not third parties since Hasbro took a giant steaming shit on the execution.
>>11624691Counterpoint: No they're not.
>>11624673>why doesn't it look like the shitty Dreamwave artBecause it's not trying to, retard?
got World Dragnus and he's actually pretty cool
pegs on his legs are kinda loose so his legs tend to fall off with a bit of movement tho
super mode makes him even better
with dragon Megatron
arm mode is kinda goofy because he now has short legs
super dragon mode looks better than base dragon mode
Humans piloting machines
