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Has anyone ever visited a slum? Is it as dangerous as people say? I've always been curious about them but have never actually seen one.
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>>1491952
I was actually about to make a thread about this. I was in Los Angeles last week and wanted to see skid row(wanted to see some rappers and stuff), little tokyo, and china town. I was fucking appalled at how the US treats anyone brown or with mental illness, and I've been to places in Eastern Germany. The roads had what I believe was raw sewage at places, other times I couldn't walk on the side walk because tents, or someone sleeping and one time I heard a child crying! Like what the fuck america LA is suppose to be a Grand city with lights and rich people in sporty cars and stuff. This would never last in the EU, we take care of people above all else.
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>>1491954
LA is the asshole of America and nobody thinks otherwise.
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>>1491956
Well maybe to you all but here in Europe, California is seen as the good progressive side of America. It's suppose to be green, progressive, accepting of others, and first in terms of caring for it's people; unlike some other places and people...
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>>1491954
I take it you have never been to the outskirts of Paris
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I'd be interested in going to a slum, but how could I excuse my presence? I'm pretty sure the residents would know exactly what I was up to, and I'd feel so self-conscious.
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>>1491958
I go to the finer things in paris, on a rail system that works. I went to the train station in LA and they told me it would take one and a half days to get to Texas. I can get to Paris from where I am in Germany very quickly, no idea why you all can't build a simple rail from one place to the other. I mean come on the rest of the world can do it
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>>1491961
I'm not even American and I can see why they find you yuros insufferable.

Worse than Canadians.
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>>1491952

I spent a while in a Faridabad slum, about twenty minutes outside of Delhi. A friend's friend's friend lived there. Apparently his family was rather well-off, due to land sales, but weren't comfortable shifting to a more upscale area.

At any rate, I got a personal tour from the slumlord. We ate some chicken, drank a lot and then took a motorbike back to the city early in the morning. I didn't feel unsafe in the slightest--people were more or less ambivalent to my presence and were far less intrusive than young, lower-middle-class men elsewhere in India.

TBQH there's no reason to go unless you know someone there (unless you're the kind of person who thinks it's alright to ogle poverty).

IME, it's probably fine to visit non-Muslim slums in India, Nepal, etc (I specify non-Muslim because Muslims tend to suffer higher poverty rates in India, control black markets in cities like Mumbai, etc. Plus, all the Muslim neighborhoods I've been to have a kind of unspoken tension you don't get in other places), but I wouldn't do the same in Colombia or Brazil unless I had a good local contact.
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>>1491965
What's wrong with Canadians?
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>>1491966
Wish I had some slumlord friends.
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>>1491967
There is no way to tell the difference between a Canadian and American tourist at this point; I'd be hard pressed you can tell a difference other than associate a stereotype of "they are nice". Most of the non-coastal ones don't travel or just go to america, and the ones on the coast are just New Yorkers or Californians 2.0.

Canadian travelers:
>complain about the temperature and how global warming sucks even if they are visiting SEA or some shit
>women looking to get wild and slutty is an understatement
>everyone is fucking clueless from Canada no one can prove to me otherwise
>everything needs to be commented on to "as back home we "
>something is always not just right regardless where they go
>if there is a problem they refuse to talk about it until after

They aren't bad tourists in the sense of aussies, chinese, or dudebro americans. They just have their own set of problems that socializing or traveling with makes it a fucking mess.
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>>1491961
No fucking way would we want to make it any easier for those bastards to come here. We're already fucked enough on the southern border.
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>>1491966

How did it smell? Honest question because most of India smells awful but a slum had to be next-level rancid
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>>1491957

>California is seen as the good progressive side of America

Oh god, really? So many laws are so ass-backwards in that state that it's damn near laughable
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>>1491967
Just a bit passive aggressive
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>>1491975
lol
Where can I get me one of those?

And does it accept International shipping?
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Got a tour of a slum in Semarang, Indonesia for a project of my university. The whole place was sinking into the sea (1m every 5 years!), which was the subject of our project.

Got a tour by the village leader. I sank through the mud somewhere and ruined my shoes, he got me some flip flops. Smoked kreteks, drank super sweet tea with the people there and touched some pregnant bellies for luck.

In a lot of slums its safe to visit if you know someone with high status in the area.
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>>1492013
How does one get in with the higher status people?
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>>1491984

I didn't notice any awful smells.

I think the worst stench I've come across in India is this bridge near Mansarovar in Jaipur. Can't remember exactly where it was, but I nicknamed it the "Shit Bridge."
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>>1492017

Just don't live in a slum
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>>1492132
I mean to meet them.
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Spent some time in Phnom Penh's Boeung Kak lake slum area back in 2009 before they filled in the lake and tore it down. Smoked meth and drank with the locals on a number of occasions. People were generally nice or minded their own business. This was before the crackdowns so everyone was really laid back about drug use and police presence was negligible. I wonder is any poster here has met my buddy "Black". Good kid, told me he was slinging drugs so that he could pay to go to school. I often wonder how that worked out for him.
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>>1491957

It is. Don't listen to the /pol/ cucks. I just moved to Central California and it's a shit hole. Nothing but rednecks, gangs and interracial couples. So Cal and Nor Cal are by far the best
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>>1492179

Could you imagine the quality of the drugs in Cambodia? Good lord, it would probably be safer injecting motor oil
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>>1492210
Actually the opposite is true. You can't even find tar heroin there, its all china white and not even expensive. Meth is also better quality than neighboring Thailand, Cambodians smoke "ice" (pure meth crystals) whereas thais press it into pills with binders and caffeine called "yaba". Not sure how things are these days but Phnom Penh used to be a mecca for hard drug users. Only time the quality sucked was with weed ironically.
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>>1492215
I think they cleaned up
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>>1491952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmNk-Li7m2c
Nobody mentioned India?
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>>1491965
Most Canadians are good people, but there are some who are just as stuck up and self righteous as >>1491954 >>1491957 >>1491961 and love to be vocal about it in public. They think their shit don't stink, as we say.
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>>1492289
>I disagree with what you say cuz muh pride
>that makes you self righteous
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>>1492297
Canadians just have a stereotype of being nice people thus everyone assumes them to be great, kind and quiet. In reality they are just Americans 2.0; I'd be shocked if when traveling you could tell the two apart.
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>>1492266

I could just smell the place... awful
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>>1492305

TBQH they don't smell that bad unless you're near a poo-poo area or a sewage drain. If you're near a market or series of food stalls, the spices cover most of it up.
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>>1492297
>my pride is misplaced because I am blind to any shortcomings of not only my own, but also my country
See how self righteousness works now, or do you need it detailed even more?
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>>1492303
No, it's a particular kind of obnoxious that doesn't really exist in the US, except for perhaps some extremely insular circles.
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>>1492325
That's not how it works. You're clutching at straws, negro.
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>>1491952
Yeah was in stoke.
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>>1491952
I have spent time in a few big slums--I worked in the Klong Toei slum in Bangkok for a while (one of the city's oldest and probably the largest--classic corrugated steel shantytown), and had very positive experiences there. People were friendly, mostly families that had migrated in from the sticks, very little danger. The community did include some folks with amphetamine problems, whom I mostly avoided, but even they never tried to do me harm.

I've also visited a couple of the slums in Nairobi, including Kibera, largest and sketchiest, and the one around Gikonda market. I will admit that I probably wouldn't have felt safe without a local showing me around ("Nairobbery" has a worse reputation for crime than Bangkok in general), but again, most people were friendly.

I don't know about slums as tourist attractions... Seems a little voyeuristic/exploitative. But as neighborhoods they can be very interesting.
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>>1491952
phd anthropologist i knew worked in humanitarian aid for blind people in india and she was not attacked or robbed maybe because people knew she was helping their kids
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>>1492547
Do they have aid work trips?
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>>1491952
Yes.
When I was in middle school my family did service trips in Honduras. We went to the slums a few times to hand out stuff. It was pretty heavy stuff.

I also got to tour a prison there. That was cool.
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>>1492161
well good luck!
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>>1491954
>wanted to see some rappers and stuff
holy shit this is dense
you have to be over 18 to post here
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>>1491957
>California is seen as the good progressive side of America.
>good progressive
>good
>progressive
dunno where you're from in europe lad, but that's completely wrong
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>>1492682
How did you NOT get kidnapped or robbed?
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>>1492971
no idea. this was pre 9/11
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>>1491954
>be eurotard
>come to america
>go to a shithole
>WHY IS EVERYTHING SO SHIT
>assume that is all america

every time
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>>1491966
I'm Brazilian and would never visit a slum.
Is it an europoor's fetish or something to see a place so fucked up that you're glad you don't have to live there?
Don't get me wrong. If I could, I would help some people in there (in fact already do, but not in situ). But I don't see the appeal of visiting it other than morbidly curiosity.
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>>1493117

Indian slums aren't as comically violent as favelas.
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>>1493122
But they are still as poor.
Why bother seeing them?
Other than to be relieved you don't live there, I mean
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>>1493125

Well, as I said in a post, I was invited to visit. Going to a slum actually hadn't been part of the day's plan--we'd just taken motorbikes to a small nature preserve across the Haryana border. My friend decided to visit his friend afterward, so we wound up going to the slum then.

As I said, it really wasn't that bad.
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>>1493130
Again, don't get me wrong, my nigga.

I know there are a lot of good people in there. And probably, had I never seem poverty, I would at least be curious about visiting one.

I just don't understand the appeal. Maybe it's because I was born in a shithole and exposed daily to poverty, which made me a little indifferent to it.
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>>1493134

My friend is Indian; his friend living in the slum was Indian, too. So the only reason I went is because two locals--one of whom happens to live in a slum--decided to hang out when I was with the other.
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I went to the worst slum in Antananarivo Madagascar (Which is one of the poorest countries in the world). I was on a Missions trip so no one bothered me because I was a “Missionary”. In fact they were extremely kind. It would have been very dangerous if I went there and no one knew I was a Missionary. I spent two days there. I didn’t sleep there of course.

It was really poor. All of Tana is a slum but this was way worse. Very narrow streets, garbage and feces everywhere and massive amounts of stagnant water. It was also full of unsupervised children. I remember I was playing with some and I acted like I fail on my hands and when I did I got broke glass stuck in my hands. I didn’t realize that all the dirt there was covered in broken glass.
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I went to a slum in Peru, it was poor and sketchy things going on as far as human health, but not dangerous during the day from what I saw (in one day, mind you).
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>>1491952
I live in London AKA
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>>1491959
Just be polite, and remember to tip them when you get shot.
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>>1493607
In London?
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>>1491952
>I'm rich and you're not, nyah nyah nyah!
teh larp. Sage.
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>>1491966
Lol in Indian cities you can barely tell where the slum starts and ends.

Also Muslims are humourless
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>>1491972
Lol true... met one good one though. He was a real prick to a lot of other people though that he thought were dumb. I guess we got a long for some reason. He was no bullshit.
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>>1492545
>I don't know about slums as tourist attractions... Seems a little voyeuristic/exploitative. But as neighborhoods they can be very interesting


No it’s fine, no different than going to a rich neighborhood. You have to see how people are living in a country just don’t point and laugh etc.
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>>1493125
Why go to any part of the country? India for example is poor everywhere for the most part compared to my life at home. The slum is just a high concentration of people living in an urban area with limitless land availability. The people in the middle of the desert rajasthan or mountains in himachal
Pradesh are no less poor.
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>>1492266
>>1492305
>>1492307
White burger who has been all over the Mumbai metropolitan area. I've met many people who live in Dharavi (many work in nearby neighborhoods). I've also been to several other slums around the area. The other anon is right about it not smelling unless you are near a sewer. That's true all over Mumbai, but there also lots of open sewers around just about all slums.

Feel free to AMA
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>>1491961
The answer to this is simple. Socialists in Europe subsidize trains. On top of this, a route like Paris to Berlin is only roughly 1000 km. On that route there are many other cities (for example Brussels, Cologne, Hanover). From Los Angeles to Dallas or Houston is roughly 2,400 km. On that route there are substantial cities as well though (for example Phoenix, Tucson, El Paso, San Antonio). One big problem is there are no stops to make for 900+ km between El Paso and San Antonio. Europeans just don't understand how large the USA is and how sparsely populated it is compared to most places.
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>>1491959
Why would you need to excuse your presence? What would you be up to?
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>>1491961
>>1491957
>>1491975
>>1492289
>>1493902
you fucks need to get off the internet and maybe go watch a movie or do something that doesn't require human interaction because you really let such a shitty ````troll''''' get you to reply this easily
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>>1491966
I second this anon's opinion about non-muslim slums being fine. I'd also add that muslim non-slum neighborhoods aren't safe for people who don't belong there either.
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>>1493117
>Is it an europoor's fetish or something
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it is. I've personally met several euros that have come to America and specifically wanted to visit famous shit hole neighborhoods mentioned in famous rap songs. Like this one petite Belgian qt who INSISTED on visiting south-central LA near evening time. Not sure whatever happened to her
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>>1492973
What the fuck does 9/11 have to do with the people in Honduras slums?
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>>1493905
Are Muslims like that globally?
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>>1494689
No. Muslims in Indonesia were great and the ones I met in the slums there were super friendly. Crime rate is extremely low.
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They're pretty interesting. Spent some time in slums in India, my friend has professional photography equipment so a bunch of children were following us around asking us to take pictures of the things they saw as most important in their lives. Terrible and dirty, of course. But interesting.

Then in Manila I had to make a transfer from the international terminal to the domestic so I walked the 30 minutes (shit airport) using Google maps. It took me right through a slum, a river of trash and people making homes on each side of it. Felt like such a fucking dip walking through all that with my luggage but never felt unsafe.

>>1491954
I go to Los Angeles a few times a year for concerts and shit. Those places are far as fuck from slums and not close to the worst places in LA. Not to say LA isn't a shithole but gentrification will never let anywhere downtown truly become a slum.
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>>1494689
Yes
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>>1493905
>Muh muslim vs non-muslim slim theory

Do tell us which slums you've been to
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>>1494745
Seems like racism
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>>1491954
You're raw sewerage
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>>1492179
I was kicking around there back in 2002 with some french morphine addicts. It was a proper old school shithole, no glass in the windows, dirt road alleys with donkeys in them, they built that huge mosque near there which is where they found the Vice President of Al Queda. Quality place he mustve liked banging little brown kids up the shitholes in a shithole, I'm amazed they didnt find him at Svey Pak
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>>1492215
This happened because Snooky was a major drug port on the int logistics routes, "coffee" from Colombia would be rebadged as coffee from East Timor and shipped to either Western markets or China. Opiates were pharmacuetical grade because you could just buy morphine over the counter for a few dollars. Actual skag was coming in pure from Myanmar highlands pure white, the users I knew loved cambodia. It sounds counter intuitive but because of the purity they never had OD's they'd just be pinned a lot solid longer time and had semi functional lives. I doubt they still live there know and are probably dead in the ground back in France.
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>>1495362

I made the initial post about Indian slums and it's certainly not racism. Muslims in India tend to suffer worse poverty than their non-Muslim counterparts. There's also a long history of communal violence in many South Asian cities.

A majority of Indian Muslims live in poverty; the percentage difference is disproportionately staggering when compared even to Hindus.

Muslim slums, IME, tend to have a kind of tension to them that others often don't--and I know that because I've stayed in them and explored them, for work and by accident (booked an AirBnB that happened to be in the only decent building in an otherwise downtrodden part of east Kolkata).
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>>1495417
Still like that?
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>>1495441
Its a shopping mall now if I recall
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>>1494745
London UK
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>>1495441
The part about Heroin from Myanmar is still like that. The army runs the business and the country is a 1st tier Narcostate
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>>1491985
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>>1495447
Sounds like a fun place
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>>1495444
That's one of the most expensive cities in the world and even a crap flat costs more than the zloty your mom has sucked out of sailor's cocks since 1955.
So which real slums have you been to?
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>>1492187
Where exactly? Fresno or some hell hole?
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>>1491954
>people decide to sleep on sidewalk, shit on lawn and shoot each other
>fuck white people, why aren’t they bending over like Sweden to accommodate these tragic child future rocket surgeons?
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>>1491954

Ugh. You are disgusting.
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I went to some sketchy neighbourhoods in New Orleans while I was studying abroad in Louisiana. The locals were chill for the most part, it was pretty funny talking to them and getting reactions like i'm some kind of alien race (English guy from Liverpool with a strong accent). I didn't get in any real danger outside of a homeless man almost hitting me with a thrown glass bottle and being a block away from a shooting during Mardi Gras - and funny convenience issues like having to write down food orders on napkins because the staff can't understand you,
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>>1491952
I visited London,first time I saw people defecating on the street.Constant harassment from drug junkies too, one got aggressive but I jumped into a pub and security stopped him.
Otherwise not much, besides generall dystopic city feel, with terrible food and streets full of thrash.
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>>1496035
Full of Muslims too





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