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Who is in the country now? Who wants to do a meetup?
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It's so hot and rainy bros.
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I miss it. hope to live there one day. sleeping next to my taiwanese gf in America right now though so it isn't too bad. Anyone else been to Lanyu?
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Are there any dishes that are uniquely Taiwanese? I find that Taiwan is famous for a lot of things, but they can be traced back to mainland China.

>xialongbao / soup dumplings
>actually from Shanghai
>stinky tofu
>somewhere in Anhui

Hard mode: no sweets. I think Taiwan deserves a better reputation than bubble tea and dick-cakes.
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>>2668246
General Tso's Chicken was invented by a Taiwanese.

IIRC "three cup chicken" is also Taiwanese.
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how to date Taiwanese girls? I know the basics that apply to girls everywhere but I feel like I'm missing something here to make it all click. maybe it's just because my Chinese is so bad? I don't know
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>>2667437
ill be in taipei next week
id honestly prefer not to meet another person from 4chan though. i post on 4chan, i know how weird those people are
>>2668453
where are you having trouble? i speak no Chinese and taiwan is my most successful country, but i couldn't say why
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Taiwan is a Bible study destination now? Forgive my ignorance, I haven’t checked this board in a few months
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>>2667437
Going to Taiwan in December. Any thoughts on things to do and what to eat? I know nothing about Taiwan. Staying in Taipei but open to day trips.
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>>2668453
Stupid just line and pay those hookers
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I've only been to Taipei and Kaohsiung. Are other areas of Taiwan as easily accessible to tourists/foreigners who don't speak the local language? I would like to visit more of this country, but I can't speak for shit.
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>>2668696
thanks
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is it a good time to travel to China this time of year?
June's the hottest month and lots of typhoons, right?
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>>2668900
Oh look a butthurt wumao.
Too bad Taiwan is still Taiwan.
Cope and seethe commie faggot
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Where should I go for my first Taiwan trip?
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>>2668718
Hualien used to be popular with foreigners because of Taroko Gorge, but the earthquake changed that. I struggled with the language barrier in Taiwan more than in Thailand, especially when exploring the food options on offer. Was frequently dissatisfied with the flavor and quality of the food I ate in Taiwan. With some exceptions, Taiwanese on the street didn't show any indication that they appreciate my business or welcome my presence as a white foreigner. You don't see many pretty girls in the poorer parts of the country either; they all go off to uni.
>pic is the temple near Fulong beach
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>>2668970
Stay in Taipei and take day trips to beaches/mountains/historical sites as your heart desires. It's really not a very big country. You can be in world class mountain hiking and go to a decent surfing beach in the same day.
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Anyone done a road trip on a scooter down the east coast? Or would I need a more powerful motorbike.
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>>2668718
it is very accessible to go up or down the east coast on the train. alishan, sun moon lake, taroko are all set up for foreign tourists and you will not struggle to find workers who can speak english in regards to getting tickets and activities. for food & accommodation there will likely be little english but you can do those things without it.
west coast is even easier.
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>>2669331
scooter is totally doable. it'd be better to rent one starting on the east coast though because the mountain roads can get a little steep. but once you're on the east coast it's all flat and you'll see people on scooters everywhere. if you get the option to get a real bike I'd go with that. look on YouTube there are a few people who have posted their experiences doing the same road trip. it seems fun I think you should go for it. you can do it by bus but it's a lot easier to explore with your own scooter/bike.
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I like the birds in Taiwan
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Taichung stinky
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Just finishing my first trip to Taiwan, 13 days total. Did Taipei, Tainan and Alishan, all worth doing imo.

Food was good, best dinner I had was in Tainan, braised pork on rice and went after that to get a tea ice cream. In Taipei I stopped at the Crispy fresh donuts everyday.

My one regret was not having more time to just rent a scooter and visit more swimming holes near waterfalls
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I wish there were better beaches near Taichung. It seems like all the good beaches are in the north or on the east coast.
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>here's your Taiwanese gf bro
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>>2670011
How is the mosquito situation ?
Thinking of visiting in late october - early november and i also would like to visit Alishan, any tips ?
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>>2670505
My ankles got destroyed so pay attention to mosquitoes yeah.

As for Alishan the trails are all marked and maintained fairly well so just follow along. You can do it all in just a couple of days so no need to book a week there.The sunrise thing is very hit or miss, you could go 5 times and see it only once properly so dont stress over it.

You could stop on the way to Alishan to Shizuo, it has great atmosphere and trails aswell if you like seeing tea fields and sea of clouds.

Also prepair for rainy conditions
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>>2670505
In the mountains it's no problem because it's pretty dry up there. In the cities there are definitely mosquitoes but nothing too bad. I am from the South and they are much easier to deal with in Taiwan than in the South. You can get roll on bug spray at every 7-11 too. Nothing to worry about.

Alishan is gorgeous and you will love it! It's an easy hike too. If you're used to hiking in America or Europe Taiwan is pretty easy for climbing. The mountains can be steep in sections but none of them are very tall.
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>>2670754
did you take this pic anon? absolutely beautiful scenery
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>>2670761
Yes, the mountains there are a really beautiful place
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>>2670824
I love Taiwan so much it's unreal
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>>2670846
>Taiwan
Future Chinese province.
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>>2670995
>Future
Current Chinese province
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All this wumao seethe
Taiwan is Taiwan
>xi the faggot won't do shit
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Is living in Taiwan to teach English a retarded idea? New Zealand is a shithole and I can't get a job here even with a science masters and bachelors
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>>2672214
not really. the money is shit (same as everywhere else really in Asia, even Japan) and the cities here are really crowded. if you really like the outdoors like hiking and surfing and you just want to fuck around for a few years go for it. the weather is hot and humid but generally nice. the girls are cute. and Taiwan is underrated I think.
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>>2672237
Hm, sounds decent enough. I've already been given an interview for a school in the south, It's less crowded down there and more laid back if im not mistaken.
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>>2672214
go to mainland china. if you have a science masters you can get a TEFL job at a good university in a tier 1 city, shenzhen, shanghai, chengdu would be my recommendations to look at. or you could get a TEFL job at a good fee paying high school but this is more work and harder to know which is good with no contacts. alternatively you could teach a subject at an International school which would have the best salary but might require a teaching degree are qualification for general teaching.
you can get a CELTA by August and have a job starting in late August, September. look online for jobs starting in the autumn and apply even if you don't have a celta but say you are doing it, and do it.
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>>2672339
Living in an autocratic, smogged-up coof incubator of a country doesn't much appeal to me.
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anybody know where to get zyn in Taiwan? I'm starting to worry the only options are cigarettes and marked up nicotine gum
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>>2672415
another option is to be free of nicotine addiction and to live life without it, which is far more enjoyable and easy
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>>2668909
Calling taiwan "china" isnt necessarily a wumao dogwhistle, retard. What you call Taiwan has "Republic of China" as an administrative name.
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>>2672589
yes it is
it ignores the that fact they have spent 30 years doing everything possible to move away from that short of anything that would give retarded commushits an excuse to do something stupid, it ignores that the common lingo in English for Taiwan has been "Taiwan" for much longer than that. the only one calling Taiwan "china" is almost always doing it to let everyone know how dumb they are
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>>2668718
>Are other areas of Taiwan as easily accessible to tourists/foreigners who don't speak the local language?
No. In most situations, you'll always find someone speaking english in Taipei, and most restaurants you'll eat at will have an english menu.

The rest of Taipei, not so much. It's practically a crapshoot. But don't let that hamper you in any way. There are lots of ressources available on what to do in taiwan and you can just go with these. Also, you don't need to talk to anyone, anon. Just use a translating app (download an offline one too just in case) when you really need something. There are backpackers slumming it in countries where the locals are barely aware white people exist. Taiwan is easy mode compared to that, with all the trains, buses and english translated boards all over the island.

>>2669025
>Hualien used to be popular with foreigners because of Taroko Gorge, but the earthquake changed that.
Hualien has earthquakes every year, and the typhoons hit harder in that region. Tourism has probably returned to normal levels since then -said levels being very low to begin with.
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>>2668656
>things to do
1) pick a museum (palace museum is best) + visit the Chang Kai Shek Memorial. One museum is enough, but the CKS memorial is just so ridiculous it's worth a look + it's free.
2) temples. I think two temples are nearby train stations with the same name, just look em up.
3) the Jade market at Jianguo, but don't buy anything expensive there and treat everything as a fake. Don't try to read up on jade before going there. If you really want to buy actual high grade jade go to a mainstream store.
4) Guang Hua digital plaza for the memes. I'm not sure if you can get cheaper stuff though -perhaps if you're looking for taiwanese products such as asus.
5) Taipei 101-City Hall
cont.
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>>2672597
cont'd
6) The Ximending area, which feels like a knockoff Shibuya.

7) Taipei Main Station isn't just a station, there's a small town underground with 3 malls spanning the entire neighborhood. One of them starts at Beimen station. There you'll find souvenirs, very cheap very generously scooped ice cream (you'll thank me, trust me), and that is also where a lot of weeb shit is sold. Japanese nintendo exclusive shit, yugioh tcg, official dragon ball figurines. A friend of mine was savvy enough that he made good money reselling what he bought there due to how cheap it is compared to the west, so do of that info what you will

8) Party. A lot of clubs are all you can drink provided you wait a short queue and pay the entry fee. Bouncers literally have no expectations for white people. Also clubs are very liberal about coming and going, so you can just go in there, have fun, go to the nearest 7/11 buy a pack of smokes and get shitfaced, and go at it again. The night life definitely took a hit after COVID and it's still reeling from it though.

9)KTVs. Even if you don't like that shit, partyworld (google it) in Ximending is worth an evening. If you've got a date or some willing friends go there at least once.

10) Food. Lots of options here, provided you prepare a little. You can just spontaneously walk around the big streets and look for stuff to eat, but most of the restaurants you'll see will either be selling globoslop shit or jap food (which gets boring quickly). Your best bet is to google it up, do some research, and find a restaurant before you go there -or leave the large road and start walking/cycling around the lanes. Also, but that's obvious -night markets, but it's not really traditional there, mostly fried shit.

And thats just taipei
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>>2672600
what are your favorite clubs? I like the techno clubs more than the Chinese style Douyin EDM ones if you catch my drift. not sure if this kind of club exists in Taiwan.
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>saw guy with pic related on his t shirt smoking a cigarettes with a girl
what means
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>>2668453
Rules 1 and 2
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>>2672589
STFU MICRODICK WUMAO CHINK.
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>>2672600
Issue is, haven't been there since COVID and clubs close, change names and genre every time there.
There used to have a good techno one near gongguan station, right near the "broadway cinema", but i'm pretty sure it's closed now, but who knows ?

>>2672593
>95% of taiwanese are ethnic han chinese
>the entire island speaks mandarin chinese as an official language and lingua franca
>their passports say they're chinese
>their bill has the founder of modern china on it (sun yat-sen)
>any overseas taiwanese will gladly check the "overseas chinese" box should he be asked to

>the common lingo in English for Taiwan has been "Taiwan"
the common lingo is politicized in order for Taiwan to stress its independence from the PRC-controlled mainland, especially when "made in Taiwan" is a term that's been co-signed by the same people who want to join the commies now because they never believed in a taiwan that is distinct from a civilizational China (KMT).

Saying Taiwanese people aren't Chinese is like saying Alsatians aren't Germans. No one believes that for a single second, not even the Taiwanese themselves when the question is framed this way and not in a way that implies submission to the PRC.

>>2672792
yes master
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>>2672819
>Alsatians aren't Germans
Colonel Retard ... is that you?
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>>2670414
Would, hard.
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>>2672819
>Saying Taiwanese people aren't Chinese
nice mental gymnastics to twist calling Taiwan "china" to be about "Taiwanese people = Chinese"
country =/= nationality =/= ethnicity =/= identity
Australians are British, Singaporeans are Chinese, etc
of course you know all this you are just twisting, coping and arguing in bad faith to try and support your dumb fuck position that everyone can see through a mile away
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>>2672844
A lot of Singaporeans ARE Chinese/identify as Chinese.
Real Australians are British too, yes.
That being said, the KMT and modern Taiwan didn't come into existence until around 1945-1949.
Taiwanese people are Han Chinese. It's so weird they consider themselves "Taiwanese" - the real Taiwanese are the ethnic peoples who've lived on the island for tens of thousands of year, not the mainlanders who fled to Taiwan in the 1900s.
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>>2672851
again you're just conflating everything to obfuscate your real intentions behind calling Taiwan "china" and everything you're saying there is either untrue or inconsistent

"Singaporeans identify as Chinese", so you completely missed the recent tiktok (or whatever) crap that went viral by some Chinese mainlander complaining how annoyed Singaporeans were when he referred to them as that?

Real Australians are the British colonisers and not the indigenous, while the real Taiwanese are the indigenous?

Ethnic han settlement of Taiwan started a few hundred years before the 1900s
Taiwan did not come into existence until 1945-1949, but it wasn't exactly China before that either, with its first government administration being European colonial, having a brief period of control by Chinese settlers who kicked out the Dutch independent of the Chinese government, having the Qing Chinese government declaring they don't control Taiwan, to a Japanese colony, and of course never communist.

just shut the fuck up, stupid dog
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I will be visiting Ximending for 2 weeks, starting next week. Anyone wanna meet up?
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>>2672893
yeah let's meet up.
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>>2672237
>the money is shit
the money is shit when compared to a United States where you're paying 2000 for a studio apartment. When you're earning 70kNTD/month but only paying 20k NTD for rent, and living expenses never going about 15k ntd/month, it's a good life. Especially if you're not doing fuck else but teaching a couple of kids the ABC.

>2672214
But Taiwan being an even worse shithole than New Zealand is why this is possible. Most foreigners you'll ever interact with as an ESL teacher will be your fellow ESL teachers which are dumber than a second coat of paint, and as much as they're very nice, most taiwanese people won't sound exactly bright either due to the language barrier which is still pretty bad. And don't think you being a terminally online neckbeard will save you either. When you're this isolated you go literally crazy. I highly recommend you stay in the Taipei area, or Kaohsiung at the very least.
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>>2672831
>not understanding a double negative

>>2672844
the only mental gymnastics here is trying to find any kind of political intent behind repeating what the republic of china says about itself. But sure, let's run through your pipeline and see how much "twisting" is there :

>country
The republic of china
>nationality
Chinese (ROC) as mentioned in the passport
>ethnicity
basically 90% of Han Chinese
>identity
they speak chinese with a fujian accent, they eat chinese, every fucking street in the capital is a chinese city name, the money has the founder of modern china on it


>Australians are British
Australia has officially and completely stopped being a part of the United Kingdom in 1986. They're just not British anymore.

>Singaporeans are Chinese
Singaporeans, LKY in particular, has never claimed to create a chinese state. A state for overseas chinese, you betcha. But never another "China" or the vestiges of one.

There is no 1:1 example that compares to what China and Taiwan have as a dynamic. The closest would be Ukraine and Russia The Ukraine region called itself the "Russian Confederation" and was basically made out of 90% ethnic russians. Would it make russian agression any righter ? No. But I wouldn't get triggered and call people dogs left and right because "muh ukraine".

>>267286
that's not me, your shit is just being called out by someone else. That tends to happen when you post stupid shit.
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>>2673186
yeah I know what you mean. it just depends on what kind of lifestyle you want. it's hard to get the full American style life with AC, laundry machines, TV and such. a lot of people live in the typical Taiwan old KMT bunker style apartment buildings from the 60s. kind of run down but cozy. I like this lifestyle but it's not exactly glamourous. but I can see why people don't have many kids here. the crowding does wear down on you after a while.
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>>2673192
I didn't understand the cross strait chimp outs at first but then once I started to get to become friends with some Han and some ethnic Chinese I realized they just like arguing back and forth about shit that doesn't matter. they just like to yap. shoot the shit so to speak ... there's no point to these arguments. I don't think there will be a war, not anytime soon, maybe ever. they just have a bone to pick for some reason. I think it's commie brain washing mixed with weird nationalist pride on the KMT side.
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>>2673199
the lifestyle you're describing isn't the problem, at least for me. The physical amenities aren't hard to acquire. It's the social contact that you're going to be seriously lacking if you're not actively seeking it, because people aren't like the West. And while you probably believe that the people are snobby isolationists in the West, it's nothing compared to what happens here. Making friends and nurturing any kind of relationship becomes a fucking pain and the East Asian awkwardness about it all doesn't help either.

I don't know how the crowding gets to you. For me, it took me a couple of months before i actually had a group of friends to hang out with. Compare that to NYC where I just met a couple of frat boys going to a bar and i had my friend group for the next year there.
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>>2673201
Not really. The thing between China and Taiwan is a real problem, because China, as an authoritarian state not beholden to anyone in the region, can do the wildest shit to keep its sovereignty intact, just like Putin did. So while it may sound like some meaningless yap now, the more the politicians delude themselves into believing the shit they say, the more likely something real would come out of it. Just because taiwanese people aren't worried every time a chink airplace crosses their airspace because it's a normal thing now doesn't mean an outright assault on taipei may not happen.

As a matter of fact, with the next presidential elections coming up in the US, China could get away with bombing Hsinchu, which would rid Taiwan of the biggest reason why the world cares so much about them (semi-conductors). Would the USA really help then ? Especially if, say, Trump wins ?

And to anyone thinking that would hamper semi-conductor production, not really, no. China and the US have everything they need to build more foundries and carry on. Global production would resume within a year or so. Unless China massively changes course, the risk of anything happening to taiwan is very real.
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>>2670414
Would
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I'm thinking of teaching in Taiwan next year as I have nothing else going on my life atm. I've never visited Taiwan before (nor Asia) but have been trying to find a city that I'd enjoy living in while I'm there. How is Kaohsiung? I'm interested in being near the beach for hanging out and maybe swimming. Would Kaohsiung be a good spot for that? Or do you guys have any other recommendations for towns/cities that have nice beaches nearby while also having some of the city amenities such as various restaurants with different cuisines, bars, shopping centers, etc?
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>>2673338
See I can tell you're Chinese because you took the time to type all that shit out.
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>>267345
Kaohsiung is nice but i'd suggest you look in taipei too. The beaches, such as baishawan are okay, and literally nothing prevents you from going to kenting/kaohsiung when you feel it. Don't limit your options, you'll probably get something good if you look broadly and then make a decision a posteriori.

Thing is, Taiwan is very insular, very few people speak english well, even in taipei, but most of everything there has an english version to go by, and there are lots of foreigners you can meet that can help you sort shit out at first from getting a nicer appartment to negotiating a salary, as much as people here looove to hate on them.
Only once you understand how things work would i suggest you move elsewhere
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>>2673597
yes Taiwan is not as big as people think it is. it's about the size of Maryland or the Netherlands or Belgium. and with the high speed rail you can get from Taipei to kaoshiung in a few hours. the only trip that's difficult to make is going from the west coast to the east coast, but even then it never takes more than about 6 hours to get from any point on the island to another. so you can base yourself out of Taipei and take little trips to the rest of the island whenever you please.
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>>2672844
Why do you think you're smarter than the people you think you're advocating for? They call themselves Chinese. You may as well be angry that Latin Americans are called "Americans".
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There is a difference between Chinese ethnicity and nationality and that is how most non-PRC Chinese view and differentiate themselves from the PRCs. The problem is the difference in how the PRC Chinese views this as opposed to non-PRCs, the PRC seem to think that everyone of Chinese ethnicity has a duty and responsibility to be loyal to the CCP Chinese state.
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>>2673607
>They call themselves Chinese
even if what you're saying was true, which isn't even remotely close to being for decades, it still wouldn't make "taiwan = china"
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=taiwanese+identity+poll
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>>2668246
Taiwanese tea is distinct from Chinese tea and is its own subcategory in the tea world.
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>>2673636
ok?
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>>2673636
Looks like you're coming back for seconds.
Identity in taiwan is closely related to politics, and this survey is well known to be extremely political in its framing of the question. Most people who say they are "primarily Taiwanese" in a politics-heavy survey say so because they don't want the PRC to fuck them in the ass. In other words, it's just posturing.

Almost 80 fucking years and you'd think that they would somehow change their name into "Republic of Taiwan" . But neither the KMT wanted it after getting booted out of the mainland or when they fully and completely realized that they would never come back as conquerors, neither did the people after the 90s when Taiwan became properly democratic, and neither does the DPP since their pro-independence position was seriously reconsidered the second they became an actual threat to the KMT. And again, neither does the people, who is now back to voting for the KMT (who won the majority in the legislative elections). This just sounds more like a bunch of chinese people not wanting to live under a dictatorship than a bunch of people who want to culturally and civilizationally secede from China. This is also why a lot of taiwanese people are okay with the idea of saying "taiwan is the real china". Stop being more royalist than the king, stop chimping out whenever someone says the word China.
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>>2674425
> Taiwanese are ok saying that Taiwan is the real china.
complete bullshit
> t. been living in Taiwan for 7 years
Only some 80 year old boomers would say something like Taiwan is the real china.
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>>2672350
>smogged-up coof incubator of a country
don't go to taiwan
>autocratic
irrelevant for foreigners
you can be anti-chink, but you should base it on reality.
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>mfw im in taiwan
why is this island so fragrant?
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How is the walking experience, especially in Kaohsiung? I've heard it's pretty nightmarish getting around on foot, with sidewalks non-existent or taken by scooters. I've been to vietnam so there's no way it can be as bad as that but do I need to be alert at all times?
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>>2672893
Flying in tomorrow, I would hit up clubs with you
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>>2675597
I'm keen, what's your contact info
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>>2675566
I don't know who told you that, Kaohsiung is very walkable.
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>>2667437
>stink tofu
that and the brown eggs they sell in the 7-Eleven
Taiwanese food rarely smells good
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>>2673331
I subjectively agree, but have heard foreigners claiming that Taiwanese were the most friendly East Asians. I did meet a few warm and welcoming people in Taiwan, but most people preferred to act as if I didn't exist until I addressed them directly.
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>>2676025
That is because they are. They're not as performative as the japanese, and they're not as annoying as the mainlanders. I don't know about koreans, but from the rare times ive seen them or heard about them i wasnt impressed. Granted, the bar isnt particularly high.
To be honest i'm chalking this whole "taiwanese people are nice" to people never meeting actual, normal middle-class east asians before. People say the same shit about Japan, Korea and China, save for a few jaded retards.

The thing is, most asians we see are chinese tourists going on the cheapest packages, which is basically the asian equivalent of drunk brits going to Marbella.

The truth is, i've met every type of people in Taiwan in equal parts. Racist assholes, spoiled rich retards, lovely and downright decent people. One thing they do all have in common though is takes time to nurture a relationship, they tend to be pretty silent in conversations (but i usually chalk it up to them not speaking particularly stellar english and not wanting to lose face sounding retarded), and usually just do their own thing.

Obviously, i'm selecting for the type of people that hang around westerners.
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>>2672597
>>2672600
Thank you so much anon. As for the jade markets, that makes a lot of sense. I do vintage resale as a side hustle and am very familiar with shops that hype up counterfeit/knockoff items. It's a problem here in the states too. I've never shopped abroad for resale goods, but I think I'd rather do that in a post soviet nation. There's a lot more stuff in my niche there. The only non-vintage stuff that I know how to sell is shit that I find in the garbage. Needless to say reselling weeb shit is outside of my scope of knowledge.
Do you recommend staying near Taipei Main? I really appreciate the advice about food as well. My dad and I are mainly going there for the food. He doesn't want to visit the mainland and is wary of HK so our trip to Taiwan will probably the closest he'll ever experience to China. I'll definitely check out some of the clubs there. There doesn't seem to be many directed toward my kind (homos), but still more than my lefty west coast city.
>>2673654
I really like Taiwanese tea. Do you have any recommendations for tea shops? I don't want to get the cheap shit sold at airports and grocery stores. Greener oolongs like jin xuan, tieguanyin, and dong ding are my go to.
>>2670414
Would
>>2668246
Speaking of sweets, do you have any recommendations for sweets (apart from dick cakes and boba)? Boba is disgusting to me.
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>>2676025
>>2676239
I think Taiwanese are just really laid back and chill because it's so hot and sunny. You can't be arsed to get all angry and excited in this weather. So they are like the Jamaicans of Asia: they hang out on their little island and don't really worry about too much. Compared to Mainlanders they're much more relaxed.
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>>2676489
>homos
around the red house in ximending
>tea
can take the gondola up to maokong. everything is tea themed around there, i have heard that area described as a tourist trap but i liked it, lots of tea houses, shops selling all kinds of tea, nice walks around the tea fields
>staying near Taipei Main
i did but it doesn't really matter that much, just stay close to a metro station
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>>2676494
Fucking air conditioning fees and green energy
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>>2676239
Nobody likes or needs a sci-fi loving civil servant who was in national revolutionary army, just no.
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>the signs everywhere that say "don't do drugs"
but aren't the drugs already illegal? do we need a reminder that drugs are illegal?
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As a white dork, are there jobs for me in Taiwan?
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>>2676898
if you're ugly you can teach English. if you're hot you can do white monkey jobs. if you're smart and speak Chinese you can do engineering but it's still very competitive. if you're American you can probably get a glowie job. but for the most part if you're not an expert in biotechnology or semiconductor manufacturing then you're stuck with the same low skill jobs for foreigners as the rest of Asia. there is a startup visa I know of that's pretty reasonable, I think it's the same terms as Japan: $50k USD and a couple of Taiwanese employees and you can stay for a few years
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>>2676489
This isnt so much about the usual backmarket bullshit than it is about jadeology being heavily gatekept by East Asia in general. You won't find a good deal there unless you've read about it and the few books that deal about above-grade-A ratings are all in Chinese. Most jade sold in jianguo is probably grade A though, so as an amateur i'd just stick to getting something nice and cheap as a souvenir rather.

I'm pretty sure a grade A 10 usd piece can be sold at twice its price in the west provided you find a buyer anyway.

>staying near taipei main
I think there are better places to stay at to be honest, in terms of both attractivity and price. The MRT network is well made so any place in Taipei is easily reachable and cheap. I'd rather stay in an area where i can find good amenities cheaply and a night market nearby. Namely, Gongguan, Guting, Dongmen, Ximen, Technology Building or Da'an station, for example.

>homos/tea
>>2676495 basically this. Ask around the red house in ximen for clubs and events, theyve got lots of those.

As for tea, my best recommendation is to look up the forumosa forums for addresses. The best tea shops are among the dusty old ones hidden in a lane who stand on their reputation alone. I would recommend you one if my ex wasnt the one doing the buying.

>sweets/food in general
Out in the night markets youve got these thick ass pancakes with brown sugar, jiggly cakes are everywhere, bubble waffles, honestly taiwan speaks for itself when it comes to sweets.

Food wise, the best thing you can do is walk around the neighborhoods which stations ive referenced above, and just try your hand where the locals go. Taiwanese are extremely hyped about din tai fung but the wait is ridiculous. Also, i donr know if that has been mentioned before but definitely dedicate an afternoon to keelung if you really are into food. The whole city center is a damn night market there.
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>>2676494
If that is the case then explain why hongkongers have a huge stick up their ass.

They're not more relaxed, except maybe because of the fact that the lower classes in taiwan are often better off than the mainlanders. Pretty much the entire lower half of China has a similar weather.

And most of China is pretty chill too. Only a tad more unregulated, so more hustle going on.

>>2676898
>he has and never will seriously engage with the idea of living in Taiwan
>>2676900
>he has never lived there and gets his stuff from youtubers

Why the larp ? Is this how threads are bumped now ?
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>>2676898
You can be a security guard in there.
Its a pathetic job, but hey you already are used to it pajeet
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Sell Taiwan to me. I've been to Asia twice but never to Taiwan. I want to travel Asia again from January to April. I never even considered Taiwan before although I did have a friend that taught English there in the late '00s/early '10s, I always just thought of it as a boring citystate. Then I saw it had a general here and it kind of piqued my interest. What drew you guys to Taiwan, is it worth visiting beyond just a few days in Taipei?
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>>2670414
reminder that a gf like this means you're winning
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>>2677061
>Chinese Okinawa but the orderliness of Japan and the Western comforts of America and you can go from beautiful mountains like >>2670824
and a beach like pic related on public transit in a single day then go back to your hotel for delicious food plus it's cheap like Japan
it's easy to make friends too unlike Japan where you have to warm them up for 6 months. Taiwanese are like Americans you can just chat someone up and if you have anything in common you've got a new friend.
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>>2677320
plus the girls have big honkers because it's the fattest country in east Asia
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>>2676900
If you dont have a degree and basically only worked manufacturing jobs is it even possible to immigrate to Taiwan?
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>>2677355
it's not impossible but even for teaching English you need a college degree. generally speaking if you want to move to Taiwan you need to be able to get a job and to be able to get a job you have to do something that's hard for Taiwanese people to do: speak English, be white, do le cutting edge engineering, etc. there are lots of low skill manufacturing jobs in Taiwan but they're all taken by Taiwanese
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>>2675674
jtbd4413 on discord
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>>2677061
I spent five months there right when covid kicked off and it was the best five months considering they had no chink flu cases and no lockdowns. Taiwan was dirt cheap then because no tourists so hotels were like 20$. Food was delicious and delivery app dumplings were a daily thing. You can use your metro card in other cities besides Taipei. Easy af to get around the country via train (except for the interior, but I found a girl on Tinder who wanted to take me around for a few nights). People were friendly, no one fucks with you. It's safe at any hour of the day anywhere in the cities. Even the homeless people mind their own (and there's not many to begin with). Island has it all, from nice beaches in the south, to incredible mountains all over the center, east, and north, to tropical rivers that all seem to have well maintained trails next to leading to great waterfalls. Only downside is the LBH ESL teacher population, but that's easy enough to avoid.
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>>2677750
the scamming thing is a good point. there are criminals in Taiwan but they have the Chinese sense of honor. they won't try to swindle you or trick you. they might steal or rob from you. but you won't get scammed by taxi drivers or anything like that. the rule of law is very strong in Taiwan.
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>>2676982
Thanks. I doubt I'll buy many souvenirs apart from a sticker or two. I've heard that the food in Da'an is really good but my dad is set on staying near the main station and decided to stay there. He liked how convenient Tokyo station was and how there were so many quick shops so he's hoping for something similar. I appreciate the advice about tea. I will ask the people over at /ck/ as well. They seem to know a lot about that stuff. I don't think I'll bother going to Din Tai Fung because there's plenty here in my city anyway. Haven't heard that about Keelung but I'm open to giving it a shot. How do you recommend getting there?
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>>2677728
I can't add you. It says you aren't accepting friend requests. My disc is no1nternet
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>>2677728
>>2678103
best way to do /trv/ meetups is to pick a time and a place. find a bar or cafe you like and then say "anon meet me here 2 days from now at 8 p.m." that's what worked the best in the past. I would come but I'm not in Taiwan right now :(
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>>2678105
Thanks for the tip friend
>>2677728
Hey anon, where are you staying at? I'll follow up with a time and a place unless you have a spot in mind, but add me through discord if that's easier for you.
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>>2677973
If he wants to stay at main station its his money, but he's right, you're at the crossroads of many lines, and all the stations ive mentioned are maximum 15 minutes away by mrt.

>food
Definitely also check in forumosa also. Tbh your best bet is to find a grill (or dude in your case ?) here, and let him choose the place but tell him you want something traditional lest he sends you to some crappy expensive place.

Keelung is definitely worth the visit, especially since you'll be at main station so its like 20 minutes away.
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>>2677760
What bunch of bs. Taiwan's scum is as scummy as it gets, and taxi drivers almmst always try to pull off some dumb shit which is why everyone uses Uber. Dishonest crooks will definitely do everything they can to swindle and trick you since they can easily get away with it.

>the rule of law is very strong in Taiwan.
Just because jaywalking fines are actually enforced doesnt mean there are thousands of ways to get finessed and thousands willing to finesse you.

The only thing im conceding is that there are cameras everywhere so you can't pull off some dumb shit, and people don't get physical here especially if you are a foreigner, but anything else is fair game.
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>>2677320
>>2677750
What are the costs like? How does it compare to the rest of Asia? I imagine it’s more expensive than SEA, but what would be the minimum monthly budget for a decent life?
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>>2678199
closest comparison is Japan, but food is more expensive and real estate is cheaper. you can eat super cheap but eating out is more expensive. Taiwanese apartments are larger than japanese but rent is probably the same
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>>2672594
>Just use a translating app (download an offline one too just in case) when you really need something
The photo translate feature in Google Translate is a Godsend regardless of where you're traveling.
>>2678187
Thank you. I think my dad will like the location a lot. I'll ask the people over at /ck/ about tea as well. Do you have any advice about getting currency? Can you exchange your credit card for NTD at quick shops like in Japan?
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>>2676489
Wistaira Teahouse is a historical landmark in Taipei and has a lot of high end tea.
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>>2676489
There's Teahome in Mingjian Township, Nantou County which specializes in oolongs.

You could also try asking in /tea/ general on /ck/.
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>>2678408
There are ATMs in every convenience store and most places take American credit cards and debit cards. And the convenience stores are everywhere. If your dad loves tea he will love Taiwan. They are crazy about tea here.
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>>2678202
>>2678199
>eating out is expensive
No it's not, night markets are dirt cheap, mom and pop shops are dirt cheap. Fancy restaurants aren't even expensive for what they are.

Homemade on the other hand is way more expensive, unless you count instant noodles.

>rent is probably the same
Absolutely not.


>>2678408
No problem bro.
ATMs are everywhere but they have a fixed fee so just withdraw as much as you can. There are literally 0 thieves so as long as you're not utterly retarded with your money you should be fine
As for exchanging your money, just go to any post office, they're everywhere.
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>>2678537
yes you are right, I guess it's kind of hard to describe because I'm so used to western style eating. Going to a restaurant costs as much as in the West. It's pretty expensive that way. but going to night markets or going to the grocery store is pretty cheap. basically if you want to eat like a firstie then it costs as much as the west. but alternatively you can go to these thirdie locations like the night markets and you get thirdie prices. so Taiwan is unique in this way that there is this very old school undeveloped culture where people still go to wet markets and night markets, and on the same block you'll have a modern skyscraper and some fine western dining. this was strange to me coming from Europe and Japan because this doesn't exist really in either of these places. it feels somewhat backwards but it is useful for saving money.
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>>2678549
Mid range restaurants aren't expensive either and it isn't a third world thing. You just go to expensive globohomo restaurants is all. Made the same mistake my first year staying there, because my exgf didnt know shit about her own city and was only about recommending me the most vapid and inane places where to eat, by the zhongxiao fuxing/dunhua area. Granted, they're just not as visible : they're often hidden inbetween two main roads, the menus are in chinese, etc.

As for groceries, im sorry but they are pretty expensive too unless you're only eating corn, cabbage and rice.
>undeveloped old school
>this was strange to me coming from Europe and Japan because this doesn't exist really in either of these places.
They do. Wet markets are everywhere in Europe, even in large cities, even near modern city centers. Pic related is in Paris.

The thing about Taipei is that most people there come from the rest of the island (which is very rural), and it shows especially during CNY. As a result, the people there tend to be pretty simple and don't care much about appearance and presentation. Thus any "fancy" restaurant is usually only patronized by spoiled kids from taipei. My ex was one such spoiled retard.
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>>2678645
What would be some good spots to stay at that aren’t for globohomo retards? Certain towns/cities or areas of Taipei where you can visit night/wet markets maybe some nightlife etc. That isn’t expensive and soulless
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>>2678414
>>2678424
Thanks for letting me know. My dad isn't a tea person but he'll hop along with me and enjoy it regardless. He heavily prefers the stuff that I've bought from Taiwan and Africa over from Japan. He also likes the lighter and less spicy cuisine of South China so I think he'll enjoy it a lot. I prefer whatever the people from Beijing and Chengdu make but hopefully they'll have some HK inspired bakeries there.
>>2678537
That is fantastic.Good to know about the fixed fees.
>>2678645
>picture
How much does fruit typically cost in Taipei? I'd like to stock up and keep some on hand for quick breakfasts and snacks.
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>>2677003
Hey white dork. Why don't you go back to your country?
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>>2677750
>Only downside is the LBH ESL teacher population, but that's easy enough to avoid.

Where does the loser back home ESL teacher population hang out? Need to avoid them. Asking for a friend.
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>>2667437
Is it true that Taiwan feels like a mix of Japanese and chinese? Taiwan kinda looks like Japan, building wise and city wise, because of Japanese city designers?

Taiwan doesn't have the narrow house and overhanging wires SEA-look, like Thailand or Vietnam.
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>>2678870
yes definitely, although it's much more Chinese than japanese at this point. much of the architecture is either japanese or indigenous. for instance there are the same Meiji era japanese canals in Taiwan as are in Japan because Taiwan was japanese colony at this time. after the war many japanese influences were destroyed and practically all japanese residents were forcibly removed from the island, so there isn't much japanese food or culture directly to speak of.

all of these Chinese, indigenous and japanese influences come together in something that is quite distinct and uniquely "Taiwanese".
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>>2678869
Security guards cant hang out with the expat community.
Also jeets not allowed
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>>2678868
Asia is comfy, so why should I go back?
Stay home jeet security guard. You are trapped in burgerland for ever.
Well you may be able to go to india and stay with your fellow jeets
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>>2678915
You're a gross, nasty little white dork. No wonder you tucked your tail and ran away from America.
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I don't know why you guys waste all this time fighting but it keeps bumping the thread so thanks
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>>2678926
> SAAAAARR, do not say mean things about low skilled jeets SAAAR
> SAAAAR security guard is good job SAAAR
Fuck off pajeet.
Also, I am not a burger
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>>2678939
You're a creepy white dork hiding in Asia. Go back to whatever soulless country you came from, fucking immigrant.
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beware the stupid spirits of whampoa
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>>2678952
> Pajeet gets mad when you call him pajeet.
Well, finally you admit that you are a disgusting pajeet working as a security guard who is also a jannie.
Your existence is truly sad jeet
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best mountains to hike near Taipei? best beaches near Taipei?
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>>2678889
what indigenous architecture are you on about? taiwan was 3m wide 3 story shophouses until the 1980s when it got reinforced concrete buildings which you still see around today. "uniquely taiwanese" is a joke. anything past 2000 is generic Asia. anything 1980 and 1990s is old generic asia, green glassed and cladded concrete.

>>2678870
>Taiwan doesn't have the narrow house and overhanging wires SEA-look, like Thailand or Vietnam.
yes it does but the cities are just mainly 6 story walk up apartment blocks found in china and (low class areas of) japan.
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How's Taiwan during January? And will it be safe January 2025? I don't want to be around when Xi comes.
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there is chiang institutionalized whampoa soul
don't mess with it, it's unreasonable
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>>2679317
Basically what this guy says. Taipei isn't particularly beautiful urban-wise, the skyline isn't remotely comparable to japanese/korean/tier 1/2 chinese cities.
This being said, Taipei City is comfy and doesn't have (by law) a lot of skyscrapers, while having all the amenities of a world class city (albeit at a lesser level in some ways), the MRT pretty much makes it so that even if you live in bumfuck nowhere you still can easily join the city (and for cheap at that), and the city is extremely green, with the riverside park spanning the entire east side of Taipei (and delimitating it on that side).
The rest of Taiwan is literally just traditional chinese/asian housing.

I remember a few people talking about "cyberpunk cities" during covid, well Taipei isn't one of them.

>>2679328
Taiwan is ok during january and probably the best time for hiking, depending on whether it rains that week or not. However make sure you give the chinese new year a wide berth if you don't want to end up visiting a completely ghosted taipei. Everyone just spends a week with their family back in their backwater holes and there's literally nothing to do during that.

>When Xi comes
if at least 2 conditions out of the following are met, you can start to worry :
1) Taiwan stops producing a sizeable chunk of semi-conductors
2) Trump wins the election AND has shown a clear disinterest for the taiwanese question (he hasnt, he just hinted at cutting some funding years ago, he also is the one who started the trade war)
3) if the war on Ukraine ends in a positive note for Russia (very unlikely)
4) if Taiwan basically declares a definitive and strict independence from China (keep in mind not even the DPP has done this yet)
5) if you start hearing about taiwanese/chinese false flag operations in order to sour relations even more

I've been saying the same thing for years on this board, and for the last 5 years, many called all of these yet nothing happened.
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>>2678675
>restaurants
Truth is, everywhere is good for Taipei, just don't flock to the nearest shiniest restaurant and wonder why you're only being served milquetoast crap. I remember seeing a lot of good stuff around NTU (especially on the Technology building MRT side, but as well as at Gongguan). Just, make sure you walk around the lanes a little. There are so many little establishments in there, part of the experience is to actually walk around.

>wet markets
there are two I used to go to : One south of CKS memorial hall (on your way to guting) and one at gongguan itself, at a blue building right at the exist of the station. The uni is worth a tour too desu, it's beautiful. But it's just that : a wet market. You're not getting anything special there, it's mostly just vegetables and meat.
>night markets
There's a reason why i keep mentioning them but i never give an exact name is because they're fucking everywhere. Just google and pick one. Special mention to the keelung one since it's a bit far and it's gigantic. the Taichung city center also kinda is a big night market.
>nightlife
"not globohomo nightlife" doesn't really exist lmao. The nightlife is ok, people open up to you. Contrary to what the larpers say about "LBH white dorks" a lot of foreigners are friendly and more than eager to socialize with you on sight. That's also how you can filter for larpers in this thread btw : anyone shitting on the foreigners in taiwan have literally never met one.
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>>2679970
The more time I spend in Taiwan the less I worry about China. There is more fear of invasion in USA than in Taiwan in my experience. Taiwanese have been dealing with the threat their whole lives. Americans only started paying attention a few years ago. So everyone is just used to it at this point I think. And since so many people in Taiwan either work in China or have family living there they are more in tune with the messaging coming out of China.

>>2679979
I agree Taipei is a city that rewards exploring. Go to a busy metro station and wander around a bit. You will find something interesting.
>foreigners
How do you find the foreigners in Taiwan compare to the foreigners in similar countries like Japan? In Japan so many foreigners are weird nerdy weeaboos. You don't really see any of this in Taiwan. It is refreshing.
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>>2680147
I don't know. I've only been in Japan for tourism and didnt go out of my way to meet other people.
However, you're probably a white american/anglo dude in his twenties or thirties hanging out in a very secondary section of an anime imageboard. You are either a young STEMfag or an English teacher. You're meeting nerdy weebs because you are one and probably present yourself as one without even knowing.

It's sad that so many people go to completely foreign countries and can't learn the best lesson you get out of it : to be ever fit in anywhere.
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>>2680305
>To be ever fit in anywhere
Wow, so deep.

Also, some of the LBH's are cool... Some get the ego that they're hot shit when it's obvious back home they were a fucking loser but now they have touched an Asian vagina.
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>>2680317
Good for them. the "LBH" concept stems from this very confucianist belief that people should stay right where they belong, in social roles as well as place. I am not a chink, and therefore I do enjoy a good redemption arc. If someone was struggling at home with issues they overcame by having a fresh start in East Asia, that is good for them. Especially since getting a job there isn't like 50 years ago and you usually require some level of qualification (college degree and TEFL cert)

What I find really funny is that i've only ever heard this term spoken by taiwanese "friends" talking to my girlfriend behind my back without even knowing who I was. People she asked me to confront because they repeatedly tried to ask her for dates she refused. People who couldn't explain what it meant aside from "white dude who bangs my crush". Whoever interests themselves in another man's past for sexual reasons should consider a good dicking themselves IMHO.
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I am in Taiwan from the 2 July onwards who's around Taipei ?
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>>2668246
Taiwanese beef noodle soup is made in a way that is distinct to Taiwan, despite there of course being 'beef noodle soup' in every city in China. Maybe the oyster omelette thing and 大肠包小肠 otherwise. But yeah in general Taiwanese food is inferior versions of Mainland food (pls no bully, love Taiwan, but food is unironically its weak spot)

>>2668453
you dont need Chinese skills at all you're probably just not direct enough

>>2672844
>country =/= nationality =/= ethnicity =/= identity
correct but their country is "Republic of China" and their ethnicity is "Han Chinese" so that is 2/4 at least. and for Singapore, LKY specifically attributed the country's success to being majority Chinese, so that's bad example
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>>2680541
>but food is unironically its weak spot
one thing I've noticed is that it's difficult to get many varieties of Chinese food here. I used to live in an American city with lots of Chinese and you could get cuisine from every region in China very easily. in Taiwan it's mostly Fujian/Amoy/Hokkien dishes with a little bit of Shanghainese cuisine thrown in and not much else. I guess when the nationalists came they left all their cookbooks at home.

that being said I do appreciate the quality of western food in Taipei. For example the coffee shops are just as good as in any big American city. some of them are even better. so there is that kind of boutique culture like in Japan where somebody will geek out super hard on one little niche.
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>>2680735
>coffee shops
yes absolutely top tier
>western *food*
meh tier. inferior to what's available in HK/Tokyo/Shanghai by a very wide margin
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>>2680870
maybe I just have bad taste in western food
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I'll be there for new year doing the loop around Taiwan with my bicycle. tips are welcomed.
>>2679979
nice post, thank you. finally someone who posts useful stuff and not political baits.
>>2680870
do you have any recs for coffee and tea shops?
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>>2680987
I dont drink tea but for coffee:
The Folks
The Normal
Fujin Tree 353
Homey's

(all easily findable via google maps)
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>>2680987
when are you planning to do the trip anon? how much biking experience do you have? it sounds like fun.
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>>2681152
>when
last two weeks of December, I will spend Christmas and New Year's there
>biking experience
I'm fairly fit, I will do a bike packing trip this summer and I will train indoor for this Taiwan trip. I will do the Taiwan cycling route number one, Google it!
It's about 900km so my plan is to cycle 100km a day
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>2 weeks in Taiwan here shortly for work shit
>first time going
If there is one thing you wish you knew before landing in Taiwan what would it be? Not sexpatting due to work schedule but feel like I am forgetting something, been to Korea and Japan before and my city is similar in climate to Taiwan so weather is prepped for.

Guess a few points I wonder about is
>How much cash if any is worth carrying on you? Ran into a few Japanese and Korean places that CASH ONLY. not sure the % there
>Good/Bad of the train system are there times to just walk
>Company allowing me 55/day for food and transportation (low I know) that easy enough to get some food not wanting to kill myself over
>How bad are taxis? I googled but reddit stories of "uber" are worthless half the time, does grab work there?
>How wildly used is english? Heard it's pretty good just hate "english is great in Korea/Japan" proceeded by absolutely no one fucking speaking it.
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>>2681209
>cash
Taiwan is even more cash only than japan or korea. I would always have cash on me.
>mrt good
It goes everywhere, it is cheap, it is on time, and it is frequent
>mrt bad
None, aside from the fact that only taipei boasts one worth a damn
>uber
Taxis are good in a pinch but ubers are far better. Idk about grab, but id only use uber.
>english
It is as bad as korea and japan but maybe dont take your home language for granted when in a country that doesnt really give a fuck about it. Also, if you're taxiing to your hotel since its your boss paying you, make sure you have the address in CHINESE. taxis cant read englush addresses for shit.
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good day cunts. i'm going to taiwan in march and have planned the following route:

Taipei, Taichung, Yuchi, Alishan, Tainan, Kaohsiung, Kending, Taitung, Hualien

What ya think? is that a good selection of places? i'd like to try and see a bit of nature, not just cities. i've saved a load of places on google maps so i've got a rough idea of what i'm doing in each place and how long i'm gonna stay there. ta
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>>2682720
g'day cunt. I think this is a great itinerary. the cities in Taiwan can feel sameish, it's all crowded apartment buildings and night markets except for Taipei. so if you like city life spend more time in Taipei but the best thing to do in the country is just stay in the mountains and beaches as much as you can. it's a good plan.
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>>2683032
thanks mate. i'm really looking forward to travelling in taiwan, can't say i know much about the country but i've only heard positive things about it from people who have visited. i definitely plan to spend over a month there
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>>2674425
the poll was probably written in Chinese but that means people had to choose between Zhongguo or Taiwan, or both. but those who said "both" only mean that they have mainlander origin due to their waishengren parents. For all intents and purposes they're taiwanese the same way a 2nd Gen vietnamese american will probably not appreciate you calling him anything but american unless it was for a particular reason related to his vietnamese identity.
>Almost 80 fucking years and you'd think that they would somehow change their name into "Republic of Taiwan"
Holy fuck, how can you be this disingenuous and still pretend you're pro-taiwan is beyond me. You can't count anything before 1987 since it was literally under KMT dictatorial control and the KMT was still hoping that they'd get the mainland back. And the reason why they didn't change it after 1992 is because of the consensus and how they don't necessarily want Xi Jinping or any current dictator to lose more face than they already do, such making it more likely to be accused officially of secession and get their asses bombed. This isn't just a matter of changing names and even if it were, inertia would be a good enough explanation.
>This just sounds more like a bunch of chinese people not wanting to live under a dictatorship than a bunch of people who want to culturally and civilizationally secede from China.
They either call themselves taiwanren, and ethnically they're hanren (most). Mainlanders call themselves zhongguoren, and the han would present themselves as hanren. Chinese people taiwanese people "Chinese" is condescending at best and downright offensive at worst. If you've been living in Taiwan and I seriously suggest you keep these dogshit takes to yourself, but i'm sure you already know that.
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>>2682720
Yeah so you're basically going everywhere in Taiwan, which isn't a pretty big place to begin with. You can't fuck it up really. What is more interesting is how long do you want to stay in each and what do you want to do aside from hiking.

If i were you i'd fucking wing it, if you're staying the month. Hotel prices aren't particularly high if i'm not wrong, i'd just grab the nearest bike and do the bike tour.

>i'd like to try and see a bit of nature, not just cities.
Taiwan is very rural. Even fucking Taipei has green shit everywhere and you're always near a mountain. Anything beyond Taipei City itself (= new taipei city) is basically rural and has several parks around. Yangmingshan is right up north taipei city for example.
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>>2683397
good to hear, i plan on spending 4-6 weeks in taiwan. ahh i'm glad it's a green country. i do plan on doing a lot of hiking
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>inb4 lmao faggot weeb
Are there any anime themed bars worth visiting or any that exist? The ones I find are all pre covid and everything is just "cafe".
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Welp looks like the JoJo bar is still there
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>>2667437
Am I mad for going for three weeks? I have a fairly small budget and I will sleep in hostels and eat street food/whatever is cheap. I'm very much into nature and there seems to be a lot of cool stuff to see for an island so small.

First time travelling in Asia btw.
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Do I need a license to rent a motorbike in the city?
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>>2684200
I think 3 weeks seems like a good choice.
When are you going?
I'll be in TW from September till January, it's also my first time being there
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>>2670414
Mine is kind of like that but 80% skinnier than pictured
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>>2684319
>do I need a license to operate a motor vehicle on public roads in a developed country?
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>>2684701
He asked to rent it not to operate it

Uhhh so whats the nightlife like??
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>>2684748
>so yeah, I just want to, uhh, pay for temporary access to a motor vehicle, I'm not actually gonna use it!
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>>2684701
It’s basically a third world country anyway. You’re telling me money isn’t louder than paperwork over there?
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>>2684782
>are there any rental companies that are willing to take a gamble on a foreign tourist for a little extra money? Taiwan is the same thing as Thailand, right?
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>>2684319
No.

>>2684701
No.

>>2684791
Yes. No.
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hello taiwanese message board. I have a question. Well, two questions.
Today I saw a man on the street selling nazi souveniers. Like, old eagles with swastikas. Is that normal? and, should I buy some?
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>>2673654
My favorite tea is the Turkish tea.
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>>2674425
>neither does the DPP since their pro-independence position was seriously reconsidered the second they became an actual threat to the KMT.
The only reason they don't change it now is because China keeps threatening to invade if they do.
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>>2684879
Seriously fucking this.

I never had a license there and rode scooters all over the place. I never rented, just bought a used one from someone who was leaving.

The rental agencies in tourist spots like Kenting don't have any problem renting to tourists. In Taipei it might be iffy.
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No scooter shop ever rented me a scooter without valid A license IDP.
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What are some good nightclubs in Taipei that local goth-looking/alt people hang out at?
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>>2685009
>Is that normal?
You'll find that outside of Europe, USA, Canada, and Australia, nazi imagery doesn't carry the same shock value. I've seen nazi-themed shit in Korea, Mexico, and India.
Taiwan does not get easily triggered by nazi stuff, either. Hell, there is a high school that did a nazi-themed parade.

>and, should I buy some?
Only if you're absolutely certain that you wouldn't have a problem bringing it back home.
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>>2685122
I heard pawnshop but ive never been
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>>2685194
Just checked out the google reviews and some guy named stoyanoff must have had a really bad time there because he used three alt accounts to write a 1 star review lol
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>>2670414
This (but not chubby) is what I crave.
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>>2685218
every time I go to a club in Asia some euro is there sperging out because of some asian rule that doesn't exist in Europe they always get buttblasted
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How does anyone live here? Its so damn hot my brain shuts off. Wvery time i step outside im instantly drenched in sweat. How do locals manage to still look nice?
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>>2685285
>Culturally speaking are they expected to act differently from typical western fursuiters
Yes, American fursuiters lean heavily into the LGBT community and all that entails.
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>>2685781
They don't sweat as much as us
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>>2668457
>i speak no Chinese and taiwan is my most successful country, but i couldn't say why
how do you meet them usually
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>>2685817
isn't there literally one Anytime in all of Taiwan, and hardly anybody goes there? that was the situation last time I was there
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>>2685819
>There are like 3 in Taipei alone anon...
where are they
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2024 status on renting youbikes as a tourist?
My last knowledge is from 2018 or so when they introduced mandatory Taiwan ID number or something
Ill be back in December after a long time
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>>2686419
I rented one in 2019 with just an American credit card
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>>2685781
I agree with >>2685801 where I am from in America is much hotter than Taiwan. it does take a while to adjust if you come from a colder climate though, maybe a week. but I just wear shorts and t shirts made of cotton or linen, drink lots of water, don't walk so fast, and try to go out mostly at night if I can. and don't stay in the cities during the day. the buildings make everything so much hotter. 35C is tolerable at the beach but it's miserable in the middle of a big city.
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>>2685817
it's so easy to work out in Taiwan I love how there is a pull up bar at every park and the nicer parks even have full calisthenics equipment
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Despite all of Taiwan's modernity, it's so much more easygoing in the Philippines. My PH cell plan from last year is valid until August 2025, still has 4 GB of data left. My Taiwan cell plan cost 5x more and went dead after 30 days.
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>>2687588
modernity? most of Taiwan looks like it peaked 40 years ago and has been going downhill ever since
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>>2687591
central Taipei looks like this but there are new buildings everywhere
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for me, it's fulong beach
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Any car rental recommendations for hualien? Or just use klook
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>>2688231
thanks anon
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How does Taiwan compare to Hong Kong? I went to HK earlier this year and I was very impressed, ever since then I can't stop thinking about going to Taiwan or somewhere on the mainland, but I don't really want to dick around with getting a visa (I'm American) so leaning more towards Taiwan.

I speak English and decent Japanese, how fucked am I going to be?
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>>2688226
mind if I ask what you're up to and what city you recommend?
I like to do long term slow travel, stay in a place for a month, just workout, read, meditate, walk around, go for runs, meet people etc.
wondering if there are good spots for this kind of life in Taiwan
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>>2688253
Taiwan is very different from HK but word to the wise spend two minutes getting the Mainland visa because its also very worth visiting. Or you could organize your travel in a way so that you can use 144 hr visa free entry (US > Taipei > ML > US, for instance)
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>>2688191
More like Fuiyoh beach, amirite?
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>>2688253
>How does Taiwan compare to Hong Kong?
They feel like two totally different beasts. I like them both, but I might have to give the slight edge to Taiwan.

>I speak English and decent Japanese, how fucked am I going to be?
You're fucked with English outside of Taipei and major tourist areas.
You're gonna be surprisingly okay with Japanese. Given Taiwan's history, it's kind of like a second language to them. You'll often see multilingual signs with at least Japanese on them (sometimes English, sometimes Korean), and it's the default language they'll switch to if they don't speak English but the person they're trying to talk to is an Asian who can't speak Chinese.
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>>2688302
>You're gonna be surprisingly okay with Japanese
I disagree with this. I speak enough Japanese to have some friends there and my japanese has been useless in Taiwan. all of the Taiwanese I met who claim to speak japanese speak this weird hokkien-japanese pidgin. they sound like Jamaicans speaking English. maybe if I was super fluent in japanese it would be easier. but there is just too many differences in pronunciation and vocab compared to standard Tokyo japanese for me
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>>2667437
I'm leaving this shitty little fucking island (it isn't a country for the 10000th time mate) and I pray to the god jesus that the chines start firing nukes at it the second I'm gone.
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>>2668246
Yeah, excrement is. And everything tastes like that here so do yourself a favour and try it out.
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>>2688311
why don't you like Taiwan
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>>2668246
Yeah, excrement is. And everything tastes like that here so save yourself some time and try it out.
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>>2668656
You should buy a return flight for the next day.
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>>2688311
Why are you Indian?
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>>2688254
That's pretty much what I do as a poor digital nomad. I've only spent real time in Taipei so far. Work from my crappy Airbnb room after I wake up, get my 10k steps, weights on Monday and Thursday, then work on a project or hang out with a friend.

Walking and running is nice along the river, but this time of year you need to accept how fucking hot it will be. Gym isn't very expensive, I pay about 70 USD a month for a world gym membership.

Some of their parks are also nice, and there's often a lot of outdoor stretching and calisthenics equipment to use. It's also super easy to get around with the Easycard working on the MRT and bike rental thing.

Since I'm a private and not exciting person I'm probably not the best judge for the culture here, but the people are always super nice to me, and the good can be great too.

I think I'd prefer Seoul in terms of natural beauty and walking (also I love Olympic park), but the air in Seoul is fucking poison, so Taipei is probably my favorite.
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>>2688425
yeah you sound similar to me
what do you think of daily eating? easy enough to find clean, high protein meals? what's the water situation like? just bottled everyday?
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what Taiwanese food do you recommend? i wanna eat local food there for breakfast, lunch and dinner. i will eat absolutely anything

what's a standard breakfast meal for a local?
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>>2688429
For protein I like to be precise so I get protein powder online for about 100 grams a day. You can get as long as you have a phone number with a sim card via Shopee and get it sent to a local 711 for pickup.

For the rest I usually have one meal a day from family mart or 711 since you can buy a chicken breast with 28 grams of protein and a rice something meal there for another 20 grams easy. It's not exactly a classy meal but it is super convenient for good protein, and it means you don't have to worry about the contents of the rest of the food.

The food is generally pretty good, with hotpot being my big favorite, and you can order off Uber eats if your worried about not being understood
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>>2688429
Oh and water depends. Modern places have proper filters and the general water supply is supposed to be a lot better than the likes of Thailand, but a lot of the old storage tanks and pipes can be gross. If you're in an older place it's better to buy bottled, or ask the hosts what they think
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>>2688447
for breakfast I usually eat a baked yam and a tea egg, or I get these little toast sandwiches that many shops make for breakfast. or I get the onions milk donuts. there is lots of regular western cafes too with high quality coffee and pastries
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>>2688495
>>2688496
thanks brother
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>>2688860
No worries, and apologies for the terrible writing and typos. The wrong fucking your, Jesus Christ
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is it true that Taiwan has the most crowded cities in Asia?
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>>2688447
Just go outside and eat, don't think too much.
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what's the best hike in Taiwan
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>>2688862
didn't even notice
you're good man
I do the same despite knowing the appropriate usages of your/you're
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>>2689511
taroko national park seems to have loads of popular hiking trails
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how is taiwan if i only know english?
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>>2690432
naaa it will be alright, it's the world's language. i'm gonna solo travel there next year, i'm not worried about learning the language. obviously learn the basics; hello, thank you, please, how much, good, tasty, yes, no etc. that'll be enough to get by
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>>2688425
Based digital bromad.

I'll be heading there next after Thailand. What visa are you on and how long you planning on staying there?

How much are you paying for an airbnb? are you not being gouged on the price ?
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>>2690432
all the young people know English way better than my intermediate Chinese. Chinese is just too hard
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I'm on my fourth trip to Taiwan. Gotta say I really enjoy this place. My favorite things to do here have been visiting hot springs or hot spring hotels outside (they're all over and you can rent private rooms by the hour), biking the many trails around the rivers in Taipei (or do the Kom challenge route if you're looking to max out on some climbs), and eating the cheap and delicious foods.

It's a great little country if you're not a sperg or pajeet, are willing to smile and talk broken English to people, and can handle some rain/humidity in the summer. The Taipei MRT is clean, gets you where you need to go, and full of all types of respectable locals. Though most women here are sort of bland or geeky, there are certain ones that stand out. The best looking ones are seen running or cycling on the trails and though I'm married and don't conversate with them for too long, they seem to react well to foreigners. I really enjoy the country's land back atmosphere (at least compared to where I'm from).

Today we're taking the high speed rail to sun moon lake.
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>>2691059
>Though most women here are sort of bland or geeky
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>>2691059
I love how green and mountainous the land is and how the sky is blue with sweeping clouds every day. Taiwan is so naturally beautiful. I think it's why the people are so laid back. They are like if Jamaicans were Chinese.
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>>2670414
>>2691064
I don't get this and I'm afraid to ask.
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>>2691083
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>>2691064
>>2691083
And the guy on the bottom is a beaver from some Chinese CGI movie who became a meme recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZz1oamNbng
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>>2690915
I'm not on a visa, my country gets three months without one.

Airbnb is a bit of a ripoff, paying about 900 USD a month for a not great room, but that's the way it goes.

I'm planning to stay until my three months up up in late August, then I'll head to Seoul for three months before coming back, at least that's my plan so far.

Might come back earlier because I have a few women here, but I don't know, I've got some to catch up with in Seoul too.
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>>2691198
What after tax salary are you working with to do this?

Just want to compare to how I'm going to fair. How old are you? You're living the dream.
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>>2691198
900USD/month is pretty good price for a room in Taipei.
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>>2691235
On a good month I'm only clearing about 2,000 USD a month. Like I said originally, I'm poor.

I'm also old, 37. Luckily I have no interest in having kids or owning property so this is perfectly viable for me, but it's not ideal for anyone looking to make a traditional mark on life.

>>2691371
Not a great price for poor dude, but eh
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>>2691478
You're a king.

Keep killing it. If I get to Taiwan I will buy you a beer.
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>>2691478
yeah it's not cheap but it's a good price for an apartment in a big city compared to America! anyway I'm happy for you it sounds like you have a good life
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>>2691614
Nah I'm basic, but I appreciate the compliment
>>2691682
It's not a bad way to live
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>>2692046
i dont know what that means
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>>2692100
>The term "Taiwanmaxxing" is a slang expression that has emerged in some online communities, particularly those discussing topics like dating and lifestyle choices. It generally refers to the practice of Western men moving to Taiwan (or showing interest in doing so) to pursue relationships or enjoy a lifestyle they find more appealing than in their home countries. The term often carries connotations of seeking a perceived higher status, better dating prospects, or a more affordable cost of living.Like many "-maxxing" terms, it borrows from the incel community's use of "looksmaxxing," where individuals discuss optimizing physical appearance. However, the "Taiwanmaxxing" term is broader, encompassing aspects of life such as social, economic, and cultural opportunities.
damn AI is always on point.
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I used to dram of japan, but then I came to learn that the defining trait of the Japanese spirit is cuckoldry, if I see a Japanese man I'm 99% sure his wife is getting railed by his boss/neighbor/stepson.

Is this also true in Taiwan?
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>>2689511
Xueshan is the best hike I’ve done anywhere, ever.
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>>2692251
Oh okay. Well, for a start, drop that perma-online incel shit. Don't be obnoxious, don't treat people like shit, and be someone that others enjoy spending time with. You know, like everywhere else.

>>2692808
It's not super common in my experience. I've been with I think seven women since I arrived a couple of months ago, and only is in a relationship.
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>>2693579
Shit, only one
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>>2691059
>>2667437
Would you go to Taiwan if you still had to work western hours (10 hour time difference) on a computer?
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>>2693835
honestly yeah because it's so hot during the day I mostly live nocturnal hours anyway. it'd be pretty comfy to wake up late evening for work, then go to the beach or mountains in the early morning before coming back home to sleep.
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Hello friends
Booking a 2 week Taiwan trip at the moment, haven't really figure out details though.

Was thinking about doing the following:
>Taipei 3 nights
>Kinmen Islands 2 nights
>Chiayi 1 night
>Alishan 2 nights
>Kaohsiung 2 nights
>Taichung 2 nights
>Taipei 1 night
We are pretty lame tourists - we like nature, history, and going slightly off the beaten track (we don't like overly touristy places)

A couple of things I wasn't sure about - maybe someone can help me?
1. How much stuff can we do in Alishan if we don't have a car? Can we spend 2 full days happily there?

2. Do you agree with 2 nights each in Taichung & Kaohsiung? I was torn between Taiching, Tainan & Kaohsiung. In the end I figured Taichung was good so we can see Sun Moon Lake, and Kaohsiun was good for swimming stuff. I wasn't sure if it was a mistake to miss out on Tainan or not though.

Any other advice on places to go would be highly appreciated!
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>>2694780
That's a good itinerary.
>1. How much stuff can we do in Alishan if we don't have a car? Can we spend 2 full days happily there?
The public transportation is good in Taiwan even in the rural parts of the country. There are buses or even trains to pretty much any destination, even more so for a popular tourist destination like Alishan. No car should be no problem.

>2. Do you agree with 2 nights each in Taichung & Kaohsiung? I was torn between Taiching, Tainan & Kaohsiung. In the end I figured Taichung was good so we can see Sun Moon Lake, and Kaohsiun was good for swimming stuff. I wasn't sure if it was a mistake to miss out on Tainan or not though.

If you're going to Sun Moon Lake that will take a whole day from Taichung so 2 nights makes perfect sense. Never been to Kaohsiung so I couldn't say exactly but Kaohsiung almost has as much people as Chicago so there is plenty to explore. I have been to Tainan and it is worth a trip if you like Taiwanese history. The remains of the first colonial forts are all in Tainan.

Honestly if I was you I'd cut out 1 night in Kaohsiung and go to Kenting National Park. It's supposed to be the most beautiful beach in all of Taiwan, and Taiwan has some stunning beaches already! And if you are doing this trip soon it will still be very hot. It's best to go to the beach in the summer to cool off.

But either way I think you'll have a great trip. Let the anons know when you're here and we can do a meetup maybe.
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>>2694841
if you're going to alishan and relying on buses then at least be aware that the services aren't as widespread as you make it seem. you can book tickets in advance at a convenience stores (somehow, i never did it) but i saw about 2 dozen people not get on the bus i got on because it was full. photo is the timetable on the wall at alishan bus station but from last year

i wouldn't cut a day out of 2 days in kaohsiung to go to kenting, too much hassle to get there and around if you're not driving
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSN5iJktsGY
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I absolute loved the hipster culture, food and effortless dates with cute girls last time I was in Taipei as a backpacker.The hostels honestly fucked too, super comfy.

But now that I'm a (broke) digital nomad would 700-750 USD be enough to find a decent studio or would it just be some shitty room with no wifi and no windows ? Unlike in Japan Internet cafes are pretty expensive and not really plentiful either.
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>>2692808
Not really, but my employers attract me always and offer me their bodies by using line , but I have to be a good friend or nono
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>>2695394
wherd u find the cute dates??
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>>2668246
lu rou fan?
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>>2668246
chiayi turkey rice, oyster vemicelli, that flat fried chicken thing at night markets
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>>2695394
700 is good.
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>>2668246
flat fried chicken that looks like hashbrowns
>>2696215
yea that thing
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>>2696215
>flat fried chicken
>>2697532
>flat fried chicken
Based. I love Hot Star, and that's just a fast food chain.
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>>2667437
Does anyone else feel out of place being surrounded by short, black haired Chinese people? My eyes are watering from the feeling just watching this youtube video. I have no idea what I'd even do there as a 27yo tech bro.

https://youtu.be/u3mT--qhlDU?si=VzRsHNwxfVJ-U_2w&t=1246
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>>2697857
Not any more than any other place, granted I'm only 186 cm.

Keep in mind that the dude in that video is carrying a camera around, you tend not to get stared at anywhere near that amount while just walking around normally. Mostly it's just curious kids.
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>>2697861
its not just being looked at. Its just knowing you don't fit in and will never be accepted there like a Chinese person.

I don't really feel like I belong in America either, but I can understand people's behavior here and it's comforting. White people are smart and have common sense. If I'm on the sidewalk bleeding, I known I wouldn't be stepped over by dozens of people...

I really need to make normal friends in America. White, not mentally ill, not homos, not normie-maxed men. It's neigh impossible, but I haven't really tried
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>>2697862
>It's neigh impossible
Are you a horse?
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>>2697862
Ah so you're a weirdo racist, got it.

I don't give a fuck about fitting in, so I can't offer anything on being accepted by the Taiwanese people, though they have been super friendly to me. They also usually don't consider themselves Chinese, by the way, unless you're talking about Han genetic heritage. I can't see being stepped over if bleeding on the sidewalk here, though I've seen it happen in white countries a lot so I guess it could.

Also that you're throwing around blatant racism and homophobia while using terms like normie-maxed means you probably wouldn't be a great fit for one of the most progressive places in Asia. Honestly, you just sound kind of like an average perma-online incel with an extremely limited view of the world. You probably would struggle here, but you would probably struggle everywhere unless you choose to get over your 4chan nature and grow as a person.

You might be better off being one of those miserable sexpats in a poorer country until then?
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>>2697865
how is preferring a friend like myself racist? I'm tired of having gay friends, it's not fun to talk about women with them. I'm tired of mentally ill ADHD and Bp people because they can't remain calm in public. I'm tired of smelly niggers at the gym (there's "racism" for you)
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>>2697872
okay
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>>2695550
any dates, its taiwan.

are you a creepy feller?
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>>2668909
Taiwan considers itself China too dumb. retard.
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>>2697862
>its not just being looked at. Its just knowing you don't fit in and will never be accepted there like a Chinese person.

Who cares ? You won't even feel it lacking to begin with. A crushing majority of people, especially in taiwan, have nothing but indifference towards your origins and values so long as you perform what is required from you adequately so, which ironically, is a far cry from the soul-crushing requirements of locals since people give foreigners a bit more leeway (for being foreigners). The extreme few that care either do so opportunistically (people who shit talk you so they can get your job/girl). The rare moments when you feel that you're discriminated is when you're trying to get an appartment or when you're looking for a job, both very understandable.

Meanwhile, have you made any steps towards integration ? Are you learning chinese ? Are you studying its culture ? How do you treat your neighbors ? These are the things you should be worrying about. As a foreigner you have this chance to make your life a radiant place by just being nicer on average to the people around you. I'm pretty sure i'm the only one who talks shop with every local business clerk. They all take the effort to ask me how i am in english, and now that i speak ever so slightly they're cracking a few jokes and shit, when at the beginning they were just looking at me sternly. A sense of belonging doesn't come from the nation, it comes from your family and neighbors.

And even if you did not do any of this, you won't be treated any differently from any fucking taiwanese (or east asian for that matter) shut-in who only gets his shit at the store, and leaves without uttering a word.
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>>2697977
Moving to Taiwan early next year and this advice seems pretty on point. I definitely don't want to be that foreigner shut in who doesn't try to integrate QQ. Gotta step up my Chinese learning. Also thoughts on Taichung vs Kaohsiung as far as living goes?
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>>2698101
Kaohsiung is a little cooler, and it's on the coast. Taichung gets hotter because it's more closer to the mountains. Kaohsiung has a little arts scene, not as big as Taipei, and it's closer to Kenting too.
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Guys, I'm gonna arrive in Taipei next week. Recently got my bloodwork done and am apparently super high test.

Can anyone recommend a bar for me to go to, to get laid?
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>>2698601
>apparently
Was there any reason for you to have any doubts? You said you are "apparently super high test" and not that you are "super high test." It almost sounds like it was a surprise.
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>>2698604
The surprise was how much higher I am than I should be.

Never had any doubts about being high test but that much?
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>>2698601
any bar, it sounds like you got this
be sure to mention your super high test levels too
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>>2698630
>be sure to mention your super high test levels
Yes, I do suppose Asians are obsessed with high test scores.
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>>2698601
Congratz bro. I haven't been there for a while but you could try the Gongguan Riverside Park bars for starters, maybe glean some info there talking to foreigners that don't look too young (cuz they'd probably be students). At least that's what I would've done.
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>>2698717
Isn't the age of consent there like 14?
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>>2698732
maybe you're thinking of the other country that starts with a T
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>>2698606
Nice one, anon. What kind of diet and exercise do you follow? Do you drink or do drugs? How much do you sleep? Do you nofap?
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anyone been to Jiufen, is it worth going, or should I skip it?
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>>2699748
i went as part of a day trip from taipei
- it's pretty nice to see some small town/countryside area not too far from taipei and it's close enough to a few other spots to combine with, even just using public transport as a day trip
- it's hugely over touristy, you could really simplify jiufen down to just being one long winding street of tourist shops, food stalls and a few tea houses

i enjoyed it but when i make my way back to taiwan i will stay overnight where it is much quieter
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>>2699830
hey thanks a lot, I will check it out. I saw there are some waterfalls nearby as well. How about Keelung, is it any good?
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>>2678868
SIR!
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>>2699854
the 2 i know of are shifen waterfall (pic) and golden waterfall. probably many more but i'd imagine those are the 2 most popular
shifen waterfall is a 10-15min walk from shifen town which along with jiufen will be the 2 top touristy towns out that way (easy to go to both jiufen + shifen on the same day from taipei with public transport alone but check the train schedule on the pingxi line which goes out to shifen since it's only once per hour)
golden waterfall was barely a trickle when i was there and more annoying to get to (you'd probably want to look into taxi/uber/tour from klook or some way of having your own transport if you want to go there)
didn't go to keelung
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>>2699854
I liked Keelung. It has very lively downtown streets, a spacious relaxing waterfront, great walking trails through the hills around the city and a lovely oceanfront promenade a few km walk from downtown (picrel). The night market covers several blocks and is a challenge for a foreigner to navigate, with the dense crowds and fast pace of business in Chinese. The Hualien earthquake hit when I was there in April, the old pile I was staying in (Dahua Hotel, cheapest in town) rumbled horribly and developed quite a few cracks. Otherwise the room was pretty nice for $21/night.
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Taiwan is so beautiful it's unreal. I took a cab from the airport. Outside the airport the air smells like perfume. Rolling mountains of endless green, and big sky of blue. The ocean goes forever.
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>>2691106
She's fuckable.
No problem.
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>>2673896
You disingenuous piece of SHIT.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/01/16/most-people-in-taiwan-see-themselves-as-primarily-taiwanese-few-say-theyre-primarily-chinese/
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>>2674425
Quite the opposite. Taiwanese are geographically separate, politically separate, and culturally separate from China, but the ruling party refuses to admit obvious facts in order to keep things peaceful with their giant aggressive neighbor.
>>2674427
Yeah, they are the ones who think that the Kuomintang is still the rightful ruler of mainland China.
>>2674447
Taiwan has some of the cleanest air in Asia, what are you talking about?
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Anyone have experience with teaching in Taiwan? I'm considering a move to Asia to teach history/social sciences. Have 7+ years of experience in USA as a qualified teacher, with college level prepatory experience etc. Aside from only having a bachelors I should be a medium quality candidate on paper and even better in person so I think I could hit a tier 2 school easily.

How much would be a comfortable amount of money to take home per month?
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I really want to do some day hikes around Taipei but the afternoon thunderstorms make it pretty dangerous. You really have to get up early and get down around noon or you're getting yourself in trouble.
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>>2672851
"A lot of Singaporeans ARE Chinese/identify as Chinese."

No we don't. And if you say that shit to someone here, you'll get your ass beat.
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Anybody been to Aboriginal Museum or 228 Museum?
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>>2700817
>7+ years of experience in USA as a qualified teacher
If you have more than 2 yrs and an actual teaching license that would put you above 90% of the tards that come over to do TEFL and shit. Those kind of credentials can land you a nice gig at an international school if you have patience and are willing to adapt to the workflow and demands of the culture. It's one thing to spend a year in one of these countries, it's another thing entirely to try and make a go of it longterm.

>comfortable amount of money to take home per month
Taiwan is probably right in the middle of the ballpark when it comes to teaching in Asia. Pay at most private schools is around 2,000-3,000 k usd. Rent would run you like 600-700 for a decent villa style studio in the city and your col would be drastically reduced in almost all aspects. The hardest parts are figuring out how to get specific things that you may want/need (occasionally it's hard to find western goods) and getting adapted to local banking/telecomm/housing contracts and whatever else may come up.

All that considered you should be able to bank 1,000-1,500 a month and have a great quality of life. The only downside is that Asian work culture can knock you on your ass if you aren't flexible and prudent.
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>>2702071
Yeah I am worried a little bit because I just have a bachelors degree so the really high tier schools might overlook me. I also have extensive experience with Advanced Placement curriculum and generally just interested in economics/geography as well even though primarily I have done World/European History.
>2-3k per month
That seems excessively low unless you mean after taxes? After taxes in USA I am netting 4k USD a month at the moment. Perhaps if I got around the 3k after taxes it might be equivalent. I guess I would also potentially save on things like not needing a car? Trying to figure out truly what the cost of living would be like making a move.
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>>2702072
you have to account for everything is basically half the price of what it is in America. cost of living is about 50% less. so if you make the same or slightly less money than you would in America then you still have better cost of living.

but if you're just interested in getting rich it goes without saying it's better to stay in the US. you're always going to get higher salaries in the US its the best economy in the world.
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>>2702075
Not having to finance a car would probably net me a massive amount of money to go towards my savings. Between it, the taxes, and insurance its costing me somewhere close to 10k a year. But would also mean I would need to potenially pay off my student debt. Currently I am on year 6.5/10 edging closer to student loan forgiveness. Though apparently at some of the tier 1 schools people have 30k savings a year which is crazy. Granted they have a masters in the calculation but salary range is 60-80k usd when accounting also for accomodation packages.
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>/twg/ made it to post limit
feels good man
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Yooo, wtf to do in Hsinchu? Recently moved into a student dorm in the East District
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>>2702550
tsmc has a free museum there
i was gonna say the mayor is so hot, but it seems like she's in prison now kek
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>>2701329
Yes we do. Your national ID would even indicate Chinese if you are ethnically Chinese. How are you this retarded? As if most Singaporean Chinese would get in a fight for being called Chinese (not mainlander) and risk being locked up. You must be one of the brown ones.
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>>2702552
>tsmc has a free museum there
nice tip I'm going to check this out I love computer stuff
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>>2702552
desu the museum was really surface level, you can pretty much see all of it in the google maps pictures
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>>2702552
hey sexy
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>>2668457
this was me

leaving taiwan tomorrow, had a really nice time
see yous again in three months
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>first week in taipei
>want to go out for the weekend
>do some goolge-ing and it's all reddit tier places
Where do you all go to drink looking for maybe a place that might play the NFL as well if possible
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>>2703039
where was your favorite place to stay? what kind of things did you do? gym/eat/bang repeat?
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>>2703195
da'an is where all of the nice bars are. but Taiwan does have a bit of a reddit problem, they lack the sophistication of say Tokyo, but it's hard to compare a city of 3 million with a city of 30 million for the amount of hipsters. if anything I'd say Taipei punches above its weight all things considered. Taiwanese also just don't like drinking as much as japanese do. you don't see anybody passed out in the streets every Friday night like you do in Tokyo.
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>>2703039
let us know when you come back
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>>2703222
I spent a bunch of time with a wealthy friend, her place was really nice
Also any place that is green wins for me, since I'm not the biggest fan of beaches
I did mostly what you said yeah, I had to work more than I would have liked to catch up on down time so I was exhausted after gym and women
>>2703519
Late November, but I wish I had actual interesting stories. It's pretty much just eat great food, spend some time in nature, and hook up with friends
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Reply to this post if you aren't living in
>Taipei
>Taichung
>Hsinchu
>Kaosiung
>Tainan
I want to see the non city slickers
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>>2670995
>>2671081
Can we have one thread without yellow freaks from the mainland seething because of their own inferiority?
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>>2672819
>>95% of taiwanese are ethnic han chinese
>>the entire island speaks mandarin chinese as an official language and lingua franca
by that cope Australia and America are the same country Chang. No one buys your cope
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>>2676900
>if you're American you can probably get a glowie job
EXPLAIN
I want to be a glowie in Taiwan
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Which city in Taiwan is it easiest to get a gf?
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What's the appeal of traveling?
What do you do in Taipei?
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>>2703759
>What's the appeal of traveling?
I like exploration and adventure
>What do you do in Taipei?
typical globohomo stuff like cafes and boutiques but there is plenty of Taiwanese culture like night markets and mazu temples everywhere.

>>2703737
taipei is the biggest, most modern, most singles

>>2703685
nice how'd you get so lucky? I wish I had a rich friend but I have to pay for everything.
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>>2703733
hey now, let's not pretend that Australians speak english
>>2703940
talked to her on a dating app. didn't even meet her when i was in taiwan about a year ago and first started talking to her, but she seemed interesting so kept messaging back and forth, and this year we started hanging out
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>>2703728
>>Hsinchu
Hsinchu is barely a city



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