I'm planning to move to Arizona soon, someone who lives there can tell me how life is? Job opportunities, weather, people, social life ecc
Usually you figure that shit out before you "plan to move somewhere".It's hot. People are old or mexican. There is no history or culture, just suburbs and shopping centers. Winter is nice. Grass is banned. Jobs are shit because mexcriment work for cheap in every field below master degree requirements. Things are too expensive despite that. Not that many homeless because they die from heat stroke in the summer.
I lived in Vegas for 2 years. It was hell from June-September. When I would check the weather, the only major city in the US that was ever hotter was Phoenix Arizona. I wouldn't be able to live anywhere near Phoenix because the weather is just so terrible all summer. It's unbearable. The only place I've ever been in Arizona with nice weather was Flagstaff. I could probably make it one year in Flagstaff before I went insane. You better like hiking if you live up there. There's a ski resort, but it's pretty small. You could probably get a decent job with all the tourists. Minimum wage is high at $14.50/hourSedona is good for a weekend of hiking and swimming. But, it's expensive and the nightlife is terrible. Great hotels and great food though.Lake Havasu might be cool for a year or two if you could afford a boat. Also hot as fuck in the summer.
I visited Tucson and Phoenix when scoping out places to remote work from and was thoroughly underwhelmed. Phoenix is the ultimate soulless generic city hellscape, and Tucson is run down and spread out with a "cute downtown" overrun with homeless tweakers. Both cities are too expensive for what you're getting, IMO. The northern part of the state is very nice but expensive and full of old people, so not great if you're young.I ended up buying a house in El Paso, TX instead.
>>2707003Forgot to add, job opportunities suck in Tucson and a lot of people commute to Phoenix. They do in El Paso too but I'm remote so the cheapness of everything works in my favor
>>2706922Moved out after nearly 9 years>Job opportunitiesCalifornians have flooded the job market in any city worth living during COVID, rent and housing is fucked the DOJ is looking into landlords and real estate on price fixing. Jobs are good but you need to be skilled in the market otherwise it's meh pay now that overqualified people from LA/SD/SF all moved in and aren't leaving. If you are moving here to work some min wage or 16/hr job forget it unless you plan to live in some of those shitty "studio" apartments that are just renovated hotels around apache junction or guatalupe Weather is 100% dependant where you live, Tuscon has fairly different weather from the Valley of Phoenix. The northern plate has its own weather.People are what you make them everyone is a transplant, if you have a hobby phoenix has a place for it and people you can meet. Retiree's are assholes though.Social life is same as above, but if you don't make more than 25/hr good luck having any nights out.
>>2706922albuquerque
>>2706939Thanks. I was thinking about Lake Havasu, what about there? I am pretty young, under 30 years old and I work in design
>>2707199omg breaking bad reference
>>2706922My mom who is retired loved living in one of those old people neighborhoods. Sheoved to Florida and doesn't like it as much.
>>2707292Go visit first. There's not much to it and it's pretty remote. Also hot as shit in the summer.
Fuck off it’s full
>>2707292I lived in Havasu for a while...first camping up in Craggy Wash with some friends, then living in a really shitty trailer in Desert Hills and working a really shitty golf course job during a winter of shitty cold and shitty rain. Havasu is one of the most Republican cities in America, also one of the least educated. Full of rich retirees who are nonetheless very stingy with their money, also a good number of blue-collar small-industry businesses. At least the minimum wage in AZ is Californicated, so you aren't stuck working for $9/hour like you used to be. Flip side is all those rich assholes and their fancy houses leave very little in the way of affordable rent. Free camping up in Craggy Wash or on state trust land (with a permit) is a temporary option, but driving to Walmart every morning to take a shit gets old. I put out an ad looking for housing on craigslist, had a gay nudist offer me a very cheap room (no clothes allowed in the house), then had a weird boomer couple invite me to visit and offer their luxurious guest bedroom to me without any mention of rent. Something felt off about them, so I noped out by saying it was too far from work (Havasu is a very sprawling city for its size, my job was almost ten miles' drive across the city, with so many long traffic lights.) Nonetheless, I can't say Havasu is a shithole. It's a nice desert city with all the quirks of its master planner. You can go off-roading in the mountains, boating on the lake. Around spring break it gets pretty lively. Summers are among the hottest on Earth, but spring and fall are desert-perfect.
>>2706922Why would you go to the cultural and literal wasteland that is Arizona when you could instead go to northern New Mexico (Taos, Santa Fe) where it's just as cheap and hot, but actually has cutural amenities?
>>2707790+1/ That's exactly where I would recommend in the southwest.
>>2707790Money.
Phoenix seems like hell on earth to me. And a city that is doomed as it will run out of water. I can’t fathom why so many are flocking to this city.
Stay above the line. I’m here in Tucson now. I’m leaving pnw I’ve been a neet hermit all summer. Weather sucks. Hotter and warm 7 months of the year days are longer. Maybe 5/6 pm. Desert night effect only works during the winter like the mid winter. So nights are relatively warm too. This leads to tourism and retirement. Everyone is old and white or young and Mexican. It’s very racist and homogenous if you’re one of the two you should have no issue getting employment fast with a high rate and path for advancement. If you’re not. Stay above the line. The people are throw them around it’s people everywhere. The homogenous shit is very pronounced to me seeming as I’m born above the line and more midwestern it’s noticeable. But besides that on some personal you to yourself shit. It’s just regular stuff. The enviorment is uncomfortable people going to work people getting off work. You’ll need or prefer a car.
I got really bad psoriasis all over my body. It's taken over my scalp and I have to hide it with a cap.Would moving to Arizona for the sunlight help?
>>2706922>>2706933Why would you move somewhere without at least knowing what things are like?>>2706939Flag is a college town too so there's actually fuckable women around and good bars and shit. Arizona weather is also kind of deceiving. From about October to April, Phoenix weather is really nice. Beautiful skies, 70 degrees, you think, "how bad can this be?" A lot of people move there in the cooler season I think and then don't realize 115 degrees isn't an off event it's every day for 3 months and the low is about 90.>>2707773My parents live/lived there (dad passed away), like many boomers, they moved to a state with cheaper COL and lower taxes on retirement. My mom keeps trying to get me to move there, but as you found, there's really not any jobs there that pay more than like $15/hr and though I enjoy the boating and offroading and shooting guns on BLM land, after about a 3 day weekend in the place I'm over being there. The stoplights on 95 are indeed awful and turn what would be a 10 minute drive across town into 30 minutes. My mom doesn't really do anything though so she likes it. Phoenix is one of the biggest cities in the country and not really similar to Havasu except the climate and general politics of the state (albeit also one of the most spread out ones) and is a huge area for college party life. There's a lot to do if you're not an autistic loser. >>2707790It's neither of those things but NM is culturally weird and economically kind of a dump. There's a reason NM has had the same population for decades but Arizona keeps growing despite a much shittier climate.
>>2706933>There is no historyArizona has some of the best pre-Columbian sites in the US, and arguably its finest church (Mission San Xavier del Bac).
>>2708223There is no history that Western Man cares about.
>>2708224Surprisingly, many Western Men are more interested in the pre-Columbian heritage of the US than they are in Chuck O'Cletusberg's timber shack #3,182 in West Virginia
>>2707790Northern New Mexico is fucking cold at least half the year if not more. The climate is much harsher than Arizona. NM is also known for its high crime and poverty, worse than Arizona. Tons of worthless trash-tier natives and Hispanics up there. It's also libtarded, particularly in the north. >>2708147Yep. Arizona's population has grown 449% since 1960. New Mexico's population has only grown by 123% in the same time period, because it is clearly an inferior state in every way.>cultural amenitiesyou must be referring to the shithole native & Hispanic cultures co-opted by all the libtarded whites, who are obsessed with the New Mexican aesthetic.>>2708043Water flows uphill toward money. They'll drink their own reclaim if they have to, instead of throwing it on their 176 golf courses.
>>2708294>shithole native & Hispanic cultures co-opted by all the libtarded whites, who are obsessed with the New Mexican aestheticwhat's wrong with that? the country owes its origins to larping as natives, its been a pastime for good american boys for a quarter millennium
>>2708294>>cultural amenities>you must be referring to the shithole native & Hispanic cultures co-opted by all the libtarded whites, who are obsessed with the New Mexican aesthetic.As opposed to the methheads and petit bourgeoisie new money (but actually just middle class soccer moms who think Cheesecake Factory is an amazing restaurant) cultures in Arizona, I will take the native/colonial spanish influences of New Mexico every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
>>2706922I would never move to southern Arizona but northern Arizona is super nice, I loved Flagstaff but it's not really a desert as such, more alpine and apparently snows a lot in the winter. That's more of a vibe for me, and northern Arizona has a lot of deserty looking things, like Monument Valley which is essentially in Utah. So if I were you I'd choose northern Arizona, it has all of the scenery of the south but it's not nearly as balls-to-the-wall hot. I agree with the other anons saying New Mexico, to be honest I liked it much more than Arizona, precisely because it is kind of weird and quirky, with basically the exact same scenery. Santa Fe and Taos are both awesome little towns.
>>2706922Prescott is nice
Arizona is a cursed state. Save yourself, OP. If you're poor, you will be put with excrement and South American/native trash. If you're homeless or out for 15 minutes you will die of heatstroke. Phoenix, as a city, is okay. That's all. Go west? Mexicans and new constructions. Go south? Homeless people and trash scattered around. Generally, very ghetto. Go north? That's where the luxury is. Never been east but I imagine that could be bad, but the ONLY places to really be at is either Scottsdale, paradise valley, or downtown. Downtown Phoenix at LEAST has all the architecture, high rises, statues, whatever you want, it's all there with the added benefit of less homeless and nicer people. I went to sky harbor myself and I had a good time waiting, the guards were helpful and the airport was clean. Very nice view of Phoenix from there, might I add. If you're Californian though please go to New Mexico or generally just fuck off. We don't need more of them.
>>2711162>>2711186You can live in the North for cheap if you're willing to live close to a mine. Of course the water is probably contaminated and you have to hear blasting and chinese all the time
>>2707003I lived in Tucson for 6 years and I have to agree, The only upside was Bookmans, Eegee's, and the outlet mall. It's a pretty miserable city and I never want to live there again.Small towns in Arizona are "nicer" in that people aren't as awful but they have even less things to do if you're not into horseback riding.>>2707199ABQ Was nice 20 years ago but the crime rate has skyrocketed and everything I enjoyed when I lived there for a month is gone now. The infrastructure is also absurdly obnoxious and I swear their city planners were stoned when they designed their road system.
>>2706922I can speak for the Phoenix urban sprawl.>Job opportunitiesThe job market here is strong relative to the rest of the US. There's lots of boomers and they have more money than they know what to do with, so industries that cater to their needs are currently healthy. Every major corporation you can think of has an office in Phoenix. AZ is a business-friendly state and people continue to move here from cold areas, much like Florida.>weatherSummer obviously blows but that's the only thing keeping the housing prices from skyrocketing, otherwise even more Californians would move here.>peopleMeh. Not as terrible as Californians, but we got some people who think they're cowboys out here. Downtown is rife with weird hipster types. Scottsdale is like LA-lite. Mesa and Gilbert is where you'll find chudding neocons. Too many low-IQ hispanics. Not too many nigs. Phoenix is safe for a city generally.>social lifePretty rough. Phoenix is an atomized society, people generally stay in their little suburban circles, the best way to socialize is probably nightlife. Las Vegas, probably even Tucson shits on Phoenix in this regard.>foodThere are some good restaurants. Lots of grocery store options too, wish there was Grocery Outlet.I feel obliged to stay in Phoenix because I have a solid career here, but I'm looking to move to Las Vegas simply because it's so much easier to meet people there. I'll carry a knife or gun if I have to.>>2708043>>2708294Farming (muh big ag) sucks up most of the water. I'm not sure what the impact on prices would be if we were forced to import all our food from elsewhere...probably something similar to Hawaii.
>>2707790We're full
The biggest draw I could think of for Arizona is the nature and wildlife. If you aren't planning on hiking a lot theres not much there.
