Is it better for a woman to live in Norway and work as a waitress or to study to become a nurse and move to the USA?I am single and in my later 20s and don’t want kids. I have visited Norway, but only Oslo and Bergen, and i have been to the US but only in New York, but have had close online friends in California (unfortunately during covid).My other option is to somehow get some sort of remote job, but this would be a possible future longer term endeavour, after moving to the US or Norway. Norway does somehow seem more cozy for a single person , but there are many parts of the US i would like to visit as well.
Have kids. You will regret it if you don’t. You will become bitter and hedonistic and die young if you don’t have kids.
>>2713643That has nothing to do with my post, also every woman I know who had kids is completely miserable and goes mentally insane
>>2713642>become a nurse and move to the USA?unless this is bait, why would you even consider this? Its on par with being a teacher in the US.Norway would be a far more reasonable option in the long term and spare you the misery of working in the US.
>>2713660What’s so bad about it? It’s my only way to get a visa quickly. It’s the only job I can quickly get that’s in the list of jobs they’re looking for
>>2713660Also what is so bad about being a teacher in the US?
>>2713643>having kids in 2024
>>2713642The best move, assuming you aren't ugly, is to marry someone well off.
>>2713672Okay, and how would I go about finding someone like that?I think most rich men usually want a trophy wife and kids It would be a bit scary to completely rely on someone, and why would they want to fully support me?
>>2713666severely underpaid and over-worked. its not a lifestyle; its a life sentenceat least in Norway you will have reasonable labor and nurses rights
>>2713680Be a good wife and he will carry you even if it breaks his back.Men are simple creatures and are not that hard to please once you figure out what pleases them. I am not going to explain all of marriage to you, Nora, because ultimately you won't follow my advice.
>>2713681I have heard it is better paid than in Canada. Either way, it would be my only way into the US. In Norway i would not be able to work as a nurse, unless I get qualified as a nurse and also learn Norwegian. The only job I could have there is as a waitress.
>>2713682I think i can be a good wife but i would have to find a partner who doesn’t want kids, and that seems difficult to do
>>2713685No one who is healthy (either in the head, or hormonally) doesn't want kids.There's a lot of screeching and debate over this, but historically having a bountiful family has always been an aspiration and goal. The mass rejection of offspring is a new phenomenon and therefore an aberration. However you have your opinions on this and I won't try to dissuade you of them.Going by your request though, you will have a much better time girlbossing it up in Norway. Chance of failure close to zero due to having a powerful safety net, but the same system will keep you from rising above your station.The US is sink or swim. Also it's full of nogs, so make of that what you will.I didn't realize that you weren't a Norwegian native. If you have the ability to pick one or the other, there is no reason other than the spirit of adventure to pick the US.Also being a nurse sucks dick.
>>2713686The weather and variety of nature in the US is probably better. Also the wider variety of jobs I could do and people I could meet. The variety of people and cultures could be both good and bad, but a wider variety means a better likelihood of finding someone compatible I would think. I don’t think any man in Norway would want to be a provider, their relationship dynamics are fairly equal. Also it’s unlikely anyone in Norway would be wealthy (everyone is fairly equal there, which is both good and bad). But it would likely be better for being single, despite the depressing winters.
>>2713688Yeah. I pretty much canned the marriage idea for that post. Which is why I recommended Norway.It's stable and when the weight of realization settles on you, you'll atleast be able to face it in comfort.An alternative which is a bit of column A and a bit of column B would be Canada, but while having the best of both worlds, it also has the worst of both worlds. So I don't recommend it (also fuck off we're full)
>>2713667>Also what is so bad about being a teacher in the US?How much experience do you have interacting with wild monkeys? You'll need it for being a nurse in the US too
>>2713702Honestly I feel like I’ve been interacting with wild monkeys my whole life. Having also worked at a few (insane) call centres probably helped too.Maybe you’re right that it’s a horrible idea, but I think hopefully it would only be for a bit until I can officially stay there, and maybe switch my profession later on.
>>2713701>bumping a thread within an hourdont bump a thread for at least 12hrs; this is an extremely slow board
>>2713707With that plan here is your future : "It's just another day. It's just another week. It's just another month. It's just another year. It's just another-"
>>2713660That anon is being a queer nursing in the USA is hard work because there are more unhealthy people here. Norway has more paperwork. You will be a goddess here being a Norwegian Blonde nurse who makes about 300% more salary here, you have the money to do whatever you want.
>>2713752What’s your better idea? And which of the several plans are you talking about?
>>2713761Why do people think I’m Norwegian????
>>2713781I was talking about switching professions later on. That rarely happens. You'll be stuck pulling bottles out of dudes in the ER.>>2713782What are you?
>>2713642this is (You) in 10 years (althou it's probably bait, there are no women on 4chan)>>2713783a whore
>>2713789Shes much more likely to look like that if she has kids, each one ages you 10 years
>>2713653This but the exact opposite. Once women hit 33-34 with no kids they go insane
>>2713789>>too broke to buy anything Cope, these types of people are always wealthy, usually from either bullshit email jobs at some tech start up or generational wealth. That's why whole institutions are set up to sell them overpriced garbage. The most perma broke, bitter man hating women you're thinking of are always single mothers
>>2713809Only if she's a single mother, constantly working as her children become criminals and trannies streses them out and makes them lose sleep so that they always look twice their age>>2713840The most insane and evil women I've ever met have been single mothers, to willingly destroy the lives of their hisband and children on the basis of their massive egos takes a special kind of evil
>>2713931Picrel
>>2713667>Also what is so bad about being a teacher in the US?It’s a lot of work, exposes one to a lot of politics and hostility (and occasionally gruesome senseless violence), and usually pays startlingly badly. You pretty much have to love it to stand it.>t. American teacher, currently at an international school but starting to plan a return to the States
>>2713934true
>>2713954Typical single mother, always social shaming and deflecting
>>2713642Why are those two your only options? How do you qualify to be a nurse in the US but not in Norway? In Norway you get decent working conditions but shit pay, also it's not the fairlytale land you're probably thinking it is, while in the US you get superior pay but horrible working conditions, and life there seems pretty horrible but at least you can talk to people and make friends. Good luck with that in Norway lol.
>>2713959You’re the reason no woman wants to have children anymore, cope single childless women are the wealthiest and happiest stats
>>2713963I mean, what other suggestions do you have?These are the places I researched and found might suit me, any other suggestions are welcome.Because in Norway I would have to be relicensed as a nurse (I’m not even licensed yet) and I would also have to learn Norwegian before working as one
>>2713966>what other suggestions do you have?Girl I don't know, it's your life. I just found the two options on the table very specific. Why not a cashier in Denmark or bartender in France? Waitresses here doesn't exactly make big bucks. Also be aware that Norway consistently ranks at the very bottom amongs expats.>The country also does not perform well in the Ease of Settling In Index (48th). Close to a third of expats (32%) describe the locals as unfriendly towards foreign residents, compared to 18% globally. They also find it hard to make local friends and are unhappy with their social life. Overall, 37% do not feel at home in Norway.>Norway struggles in the Quality of Life Index (31st), too. This is mainly due to expats being unhappy with the affordability of public transportation and the opportunity to travel. Additionally, it ranks last worldwide for the culinary variety and dining options (53rd) and 51st for culture and nightlife. On the plus side, expats in Norway value the political stability, the high air quality, and the natural environment.And that last part about nature you can scratch out during winter, as any outdoor adventure that's not skiing on a prepared trail becomes an arctic expedition. And this was not some random ask five people on the street survey, it's the Expat Insider 2023 survey, where they asked thousands of expats worldwide.https://www.internations.org/expat-insider/2023/best-and-worst-places-for-expats-40353I'm not trying to dissuade you, just don't make important life choices based on those bought-and-paid-for UN surveys claiming Norway is the best country in the world. Cause it ain't.
>>2713954>toxic masculinity
>>2714016>thinks this is a gotcha moment>it actually re-affirms the accusationweird way to prove their point but okay
>>2713642>refusing to live out her prime biological purpose in order to be a wandering vagabond eternal teenagerHoly fuck you selfish child. When your looks fade and Chad stops showing interest in tou, you know who will love you? Your kids. Or, nobody if you let your eggs go rotten. But yeah, fuck your heritage, your family, and the thousands of sacrifices your ancestors made for their bloodline... go out and be a degenerate. Because hey, its easier.Piece of shit, you are
imagine being a wrinkly 50 yo loner roastie that became sterile and now has nobody except the 20 cats and candy crush
>>2714011>Why not a cashier in Denmark or bartender in France? Well, Denmark doesn’t have the same amenities as Norway. Also I don’t think their minimum wage is liveable. I don’t want France because everyone smokes and it’s filled with coloured people >low exist satisfaction I think most of the people who moved there are coloured and also aren’t EU citizens which makes finding work and settling in much harder
>>2714028>selfish child Yea like everyone moron that brings children into this shithole world as part of some narcissistic glory fantasy
>>2714054It’s crazy how much you care and get angry that women don’t want to destroy their bodies for your miserable ass
>>2713642Wow it will be so much fun to be completely alone when I'm old, sick and ugly and have nobody ever care about or visit me for years, then die in a hospital alone, and no one will ever remember who I was, but hey? At least I got to party!
>>2713642Norway is better, but we don't want any more fucking immigrants.
>>2714097But im white
>>2714091Why do you care what someone else does with their life so much?It’s not hurting anyone
>>2714089>gaining a few pounds after pregnancy>destroy their bodieslollmao evenyou sound like you aren't going to hit the wall anyway. you are already way past your prime age, the only way you can look attractive and young at this point is with a bump>>2714140you are disgusting
>>2714139>immigrants cant be whitelol what a naive take
>>2714140roasties like you greatly harm the white race
>>2713965>>single childless women are the wealthiestI know, I acknowledged that. Only broke people that think wealth is aquired from "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps" would think otherwise and not realize the massive buff generational wealth, family connections and inheritance is. But just like incels they aren't truly happy. We evolved to be social and this is especially true for women.
>>2714089That's not true, there's a ton of milfs that kept their fitness up after pregnancy, they may be a bit bigger than before but still very doable, but they're always married, they aren't working full time so they have time to get fit. It's always single mothers you see terminally on tinder at 300+lbs that no one wants. God has a way of punishing evil doers who harm children.
>>2714054And don't forget about their AI boyfriends which were way more popular than AI gfs
>>2714079>Also I don’t think their minimum wage is liveable.Wait until you find out about Norway's minimum wage!>I think most of the people who moved there are coloured and also aren’t EU citizens which makes finding work and settling in much harderNigga you can live here for 20 generations and then move to the neighbouring municipality and never have a single friend again. This country is anti-social on stereoids, but you seem pretty convinced so I won't argue anymore. Just don't say you weren't warned.
>>2714028Norwegian men have good genes (average norge guy would be a chad lite in America) and having citizenship for a rich elite nation like Norway would be priceless for her children when America inevitably turns into the planet of the apes. Make no mistake, this whore knows exactly what she's doing.
>>2714080> as part of some narcissistic glory fantasyit comes from having sex with women, something a faggot like you is unaware of.
>>2714080Holy fucking Reddit take The entire purpose of life is to bear children and raise them well
>>2713642being a nurse can be tough work - tho there are many specialties you can go into that while important are much less stressful, if you get bored but still want to stay in medical field you can change roles, expand your skillsetbut nurses in usa can make a lot of moneybut in usa you need a lot of money to live somewhere you can RELAXbeing around sick people can be a a drag after a whilea lot of work is the luck of the draw for your environment - are your colleagues cool or bitches, are your patients mostly respectful or are they often annoying (this is not only demographics of the location, but the demographics of your job's specialty too )norway seems beautiful, may be one of the later holdouts of comfy daily living for the average wagie before we revert to feudalism as we transition further into the information age
>>2713686>No one who is healthy (either in the head, or hormonally) doesn't want kids.People have become more aware of the world flaws, and their own flaws. Perhaps a lot of people arent healthy enough (or insane enough) to bring kids into a circumstance that would be less than ideal (which is what most kids grow up in)
>>2713642Where are you from and what citizenship do you have?You can't just move to a different country on a whim they all have visa rules which can be hard to fullfill.
>>2713642I can’t tell if anything about this thread is real, but I have to ask: Where are you from, what passport(s) do you carry, and what are you doing now? You’ve suggested that you are neither Norwegian nor American, but you have been to both, and I think you have vaguely implied that you are already studying nursing someplace (based on your ‘not qualified yet’ comment). But your nationality and current qualifications are important to understand. Neither Norway nor the USA have especially lenient immigration regimes IRL, no matter what people like to scream; it’s easy to imagine a third-country national getting a skilled worker visa to be a nurse in the States (thousands of Filipina nurses are doing it as we speak), but Norway isn’t admitting someone just to work a minimum-wage service job unless they’re an EU/EEA national. If the thread is just nonsense, I apologize for taking the bait. But if you’re actually being serious, I could offer better advice with more information.
Ecology and evolutionary biologist here (Assistant professor, non-tenure track [signifies I'm still in the academic underclass and have not ascended]). I'm in my 30s now, as is my wife. She's had 2 abortions since we've been together. Here's how I think of having kids in my professional (and extremely blackpilled as a hobby) opinion:We are all pre-disposed to mate as much as possible and for females you always want to be impregnated by a superior male, it is inherently satisfying because it is evolutionarily adaptive. In a traditional, tribal society, I would love to make as many females pregnant as possible, and likewise for females you would like being made pregnant from as many superior males as possible. But because most of the human species live in a perverted, unnatural state called "development" where everything is expanded to support a much large population at the expense of quality of life, destroying the natural environment, etc. I don't want to bring any more life into the world. In fact, I try to outsmart evolutionary desires and behavior by maximizing mating, but not reproduction. When I die, I will will my estate to some eugenics org like Planned Parenthood (but not them specifically) to make sure as many niggers are not born as possible.As for my wife, we've lived happily for the most part together for the past 10 years with no kids and I plan on not having any unless it's with a student who won't get an abortion in which case my wife may actually try to kill me.I'm a green card holder, so I'm very familiar with the visas, etc. If you're a medical worker it's not hard to get it to work for you as it's always in demand. Full-fledged nurses make $100k/yr easy and have such an easy time getting and changing jobs they literally travel the country doing that for fun. I personally prefer traveling prostitutes, the hours spent/monetary return is far better as a career. I also know a Norwegian female (green card holder in the US) who likes it here more
>>2713931Well then, OP just has to not be a bitch and find a decent husband to not end up this way, eh?
>>2713642>and don’t want kids.Stopped reading here.
>>2718068this
>>2715726It's gnosticism
>>2716099Ok, I understand you not wanting to have kids in this failed society but...>>She's had 2 abortions since we've been togetherHow can you stand this bitch murdering your seed? I would beat her to death >> traveling prostitutes, the hours spent/monetary return is far better as a careerIf that's true why does it have the highest suicide rate of any "profession"?
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