Thread for classics and arthouseMentally ill edition>/film/ chartshttps://mega.nz/folder/87xyiJjZ#3B2eXe2lmN2KbFNNEagggQ>/film/ literaturehttps://mega.nz/folder/XCokCRpR#tlesB0J_7jhaEWZVJqVzlAPrevious: >>203588371
>>203608810I just want to make sure sexdawg420xxx reads this.
How do you respond without sounding mad?
corrgood threadberg diss
>>203610105>70 year-old>still salty over some random commenting>still using mom jokes
>>203610034You forgot to say: Queen of /film/
Perfection.https://youtu.be/60xaXy4YPqQ?t=5239
>>203610105Nahhhh nigga got his ass :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull:
>>203610227She's not the queen. She's the braphog of /film/.
>>203610098I did. It was hot, had to go in the other room to cum, couldn’t wait for the escort I had to wait an hour to book. Anyway I may not have the real melody but I got the next best thing ;)
>>203610001Sirs recommend horror movies for autumn viewing
Does anyone have a download link to the Anna Nicole opera
Gonna go see A Woman Under the Influence tonight.
>>203612053>Gonna pay to go see a shitty movie I can watch for free
>>203612239I love the big screen.
>>203591707>And here on /film/ a lot of retards get triggered over plot and character development existingReally?
>>203610001Some anon in another thread said Vanessa Paradis fugged a kid in a movieyou guys have any idea what that anon was on about?
What is up my Gayngsta wrapping niggers How are you all?
The King's chamber maid of /film/
>>203613162BTW I was going through the archive and thank you to the anon who posted the scan of the magazine article about Cat People. Good stuff.
>>203613162Based.
Does /film/ rate Woody Allen? I don't remember him ever being brought up in any of these threads.
>>203612053Based, post your thoughts later, it's also playing in my city next saturday.
>>203613925Never saw him mentioned, never saw a film of his myself.
Got baited thinking it was gonna be a cute circus flick - got crushed inmediately.
Essential TikTokino?
FOTW-https://mega.nz/file/Ak5DVIiY#gZkg74qwrd_OP25c1dzwAzUvWDG7k1Dn1NXCMDwzrMIWe have officially passed the first 24 hours, where we all observe a quiet moment of observation and personal reflection after viewing the film.Discussion can now commence.
>>203614641L M A OMAO
>>203613925Love him. He's a master, one of the greatest Americans ever (definitely in the top 30). Still pretty underrated because of the personal issues and for most of his (enormous) filmography being comedic.
>>203614799you guys have such shitty opinions
>>203614641I still need to watch it. Can you meditate on it for one more day?
>>203614833Sorry you're filtered.
>>203610034
>>203614960This guy has to have something special
>>203614836I’m sorry, discussion is now open.
>>203611848The Vanishing
>>203615258
>>203614213E arribato zan pano!!!
>>203613925Yes. Watch Love and Death (1975)
Rossellini has to be the worst Italian Neorealist. All of his movies are just Allied propaganda. It's not subtle in the slightest, it's just the same sob story every time about evil Fascists and kind Americans/resistance fighters. De Sica, Visconti, Fellini, etc. are so much better it's unreal.
>>203616635ok /pol/yp
Casque d'or (1952) or Carosse d'or (1952), which is better?
>>203616978Have seen neither, so The Gold Rush
>>203616978I saw it on TCM in English language so whichever one that is I guess.
>>203616719I don't give a shit if Nazis are portrayed as bad, but there is a difference between propaganda and art. And Rossellini just doesn't escape propaganda territory. He has these realistic situations, and then he throws a comic book villain into it, and the entire story is clearly just calculated to make you hate that villain. It does not have genuine artistic aims, which is unfortunate, because he was a good director, although nowhere near the level of the others mentioned.
>>203617032Very useful posts, congrats
>>203617289Forgot to quote the other very useful post >>203617178
>>203616635>>203617258Cottafavi, Freda and Mattarazzo btfo those neo-realist faggots.
>>203617258>there is a difference between propaganda and artThere isn't. Triumph of the Will is a masterpiece yet a propaganda film. All of Soviet Montage school as well.
>>203617565Triumph of the Will isn't propaganda. Riefenstahl was speaking honestly when she says she was just making cinema verite. No one who isn't a Nazi is going to watch Triumph of the Will and become a Nazi as a result. There's no villain she portrays as cartoonishly evil, there's no professional actors. With Soviet film it's a different case altogether, because the intensity of the ideology is used as a creative reserve, meanwhile there's no great creative use of Allied values in Rossellini, it's just melodramas where Allies are good guys and Fascists are bad guys.
Does anyone know what this person is referring to? The translation may be off. https://letterboxd.com/timeistheking/film/the-wolf-of-wall-street/
>>203612053Just got back from A Woman Under the Influence. Really great movie. The close-ups with people constantly moving in and out of focus make it feel very intimate and stressful. Gena Rowlands and Peter Falk were amazing the way they could build up the drama in these excruciating long scenes, Rowlands going from this free spirit to completely caving in, Falk's character trying to be reasonable until he flies into a rage. I liked that they didn't sand off the rough edges and give easy answers to people's problems, Nick and Mabel do love each other but that doesn't make it any better.
>>203618157Who cares? Probably some local schizophrenia. Guy seems like one of them le epic contrarians from his ratings. There are comments under this review, you can translate them for more info maybe.
>>203618321>Who cares?Obviously I do, which is why I asked.
>>203618338>what is a figure of speech
>>203618411>What is a redundant reply
>>203618157a) insult, offend; b) argue heatedly with; altercate with.>Twenty years ago, Skorecki wrote in Libération: "Scorsese, you know? Rarely has a filmmaker been so little attuned to cinema. Who is this body that only films for show? It’s as if it's not his job, he tries so hard not to learn it." Thirty years ago, Lourcelles defined Scorsese in his Dictionnaire des films by his “constant and decadent sluggishness,” and his inability “to disengage from the sordidness he depicts to adopt in its place a distance, or any point of view.”Bruno is definitely one of the few interesting people to read on letterboxd, his tirade against the modern cinephilia and current trends on contemporary cinema made for festivals, including what he calls apichatpongism, is pretty accurate tb hhe's also the biggest Cimino fan in the world lmao
>>203619180>Twenty years ago, Skorecki wrote in Libération: "Scorsese, you know? Rarely has a filmmaker been so little attuned to cinema. Who is this body that only films for show? It’s as if it's not his job, he tries so hard not to learn it." Thirty years ago, Lourcelles defined Scorsese in his Dictionnaire des films by his “constant and decadent sluggishness,” and his inability “to disengage from the sordidness he depicts to adopt in its place a distance, or any point of view.”Thank you. When I looked up Scorsese and Skorecki I couldn't find anything.
>>203619180>he's also the biggest Cimino fan in the world lmaoOpinion discarded then.
>>203614641I think I prefer Ozu to Mizoguchi but Ugetsu is a masterpiece. I watched this film years ago and enjoyed it. There's nothing like sitting back and enjoying an old Japanese film
>>203614213Same pretty devastating
>>203619317>the director should have done that thing instead of what he didMidwit arguments at best. It's like it doesn't cross their heads that Scorsese WANTS to have the "show" front and center, and not create a distance or a moralizing point of view. Typical liberals.
Any good B&W kinos released this year?
https://www.cinemacom.com/sight-and-sound.htmlCheck this, Sight and Sound polls from each decade (before 2002) beyond the top 10 you see on Wikipedia
>>203591707>>203612379>story development https://youtu.be/7JQQqyN_NEE?si=C-runrBdCQ6wAv69
>discovered actual 5 star masterpiece>under 100 votes on imdb>not gonna tell you here because I dont want trannys to discover it and put it under a woke lensthe dilemma I am in. should cinema be gatekept or free for everybody?
>>203619317he is right. but scorsese is perfect for the capeshit crowd of teens and zoomers. older I get it is aftually coppola who was the master. scorsese makes some real good rollercoaster rides but then so is the latest batman movies.
>>203620026Both answers have valid arguments. Of course, everyone interested in cinema online benefits from living in a golden age of piracy, the biggest possible statement for freedom.But each person has to make their own decision, as you are doing right now.
>>203619180>current trendsit has been 80 years now of far left woke shit
>>203619915To Have an Have Not, Lifeboat, Laura, Gaslight, the list goes on
>>203610001I tried watching "It Happened One Night", but I couldn't stand Colbert's character. Do you guys know of any romance movies where the female protagonist isn't a total bitch?
>>203610001check 'Til Madness Do Us Part
>>203620096>80 yearsTry 130. Cinema is reddit woke shit>b-but it's le heckin art!! muh kinorinos!!Cope
>>203619915Oceans are the Real Continents
Home media is the work of the devil.
>>203619915potentially Grand Tour and Bogancloch
>>203620474they used to hide it better
>>203620062>older I get it is aftually coppola who was the master.I can't comment. The only Coppola I've seen was Dracula and that was absolute shit.
>>203621030>The only Coppola I've seen was Dracula Impressive. Are you 12?
>>20362110825.
>>203618300if im honest i preferred opening nightsounds a bit facile of an objection but as someone who has extensively studied neuroscience and psychology i just didnt find the depiction of gene rowlands characters mental illness as realistic and i just cant get over that hurdle. stops me committing to the emotional energy of the film
best 1890s photoplays?
has anyone watched it?
>>203623047lol I have this queued up on my avi list, I haven’t downloaded it because I haven’t found any actual evidence there is a white woman in this at all.
>>203622876>The Astronomer's Dream>The Haunted Castle>Poor Pierot>The Boxing Cats>Cinderellathese are probably the best ones I've seen, though it is hard to rate these old shorts. they are all essentially just experimenting around with new technology
is this the longest version of this film that currently exists? I see it's listed as 70 minutes, but I can only find this 30 minute versionhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=_fsIBp5mykI
>>203623178>dear diary: part 1 (of 45) of my master plan to drive anon insane is taking root.
>>203623178there isn't, that screencap is from a different movie
>>203624177The length varies depending on what framerate it's played at, as it was shot with hand-cranked cameras, and a single standard framerate didn't exist yet for theatrical projection. Apparently 17 minutes of the film survive to this day, but I'm not sure what framerate they used to measure that. I'd guess 24fps.
im bored out of my fucking mind lads, so broken and tired please recommend something enchanting. i really need help
>>203624609The Sorcerers 1967
where will the world of film take us next?
>>203618157>>203619180>>203619317Bruno quoting Skorecki quoting Lourcelles, love to see this posted here. I remember going to his blog a lot a decade and a half ago, guy is a major figure in brazilian cinephilia. >>203619365Filtered.
>>203624713>available on youtube thanks anon
This is where cinema peaked.
>>203620026Gatekept absolutely, but you can trust us here. What was the film?
>>203624721AI is the future, anything you you can imagine
>>203625291>but you can trust us herelmagine the level of stupid a nigga must be to trust people on /film/
which 10 1920s films should I watch from this list?>3 Bad Men>America>Au Secours!>Battling Buster>Blackmail>By the Law>The City Without Jews>Cœur fidèle>Combat de boxe>A Cottage on Dartmoor>Crossroads>The End of St. Petersburg>Entr'acte>Faces of Children>The Fall of the House of Usher>Finis Terræ>Hallelujah>The King of Kings>Kino Eye>The Last Command>L'Inhumaine>Lonesome>Manhatta>The Mystery of the Eiffel Tower>The Pilgrim>Rain>Return to Reason>Street Angel>The Ten Commandments>Tokyo March>Underworld>Warning Shadows>The Wedding March
>>203625291>cinema should be gatekept absolutely, but not from me *teehee*
>>203625389if /film/ actually had any sway outside these threads, then Han Ye would have subs already, The Serpent's Egg would be regarded as Bergman's best, and CNW and JNW would be heralded as the greatest film movements. no one outside of these threads pay any attention to us
>>203625445From US, my nigga.
>>203624766>, guy is a major figure in brazilian cinephilia.so a fraud
>>203625549Thankfully one of the weakest, dullest and ugliest of Bergman's films is only memetically (over)praised here.I agree about the greatness of the CNW and JNW. But even if the Nouvelle Vague or New Hollywood are more famous, they're still pretty respected movements elsewhere.Han Ye will soon get subtitled through AI.
>>203625407>3 Bad Men>By the Law>Cœur fidèle>A Cottage on Dartmoor>Entr'acte>Hallelujah>The King of Kings>The Mystery of the Eiffel Tower>Underworld>The Wedding Marchthese ones
>>203625576I don't get the reference. Are you mad at brazilians too?
>>203625702>Han Ye will soon get subtitled through AI.From your lips to the ears of the kino gods
>>203625989I think I speak for the entire general when I say you should really use a trip so we can find your insightful posts much easier
>>203626129Ow bout you trip on deez nutz nygguh!>>203626121Jajana fultured jajaja
>>203614641/film/ FOTW The Crucified Lovers-This was a good drama, I enjoyed watching the story unfold as the hole they dug themselves in got deeper and deeper. Music was effective, performances were great. Glad I watched, it was a comfy watch as another anon put itI’m ashamed to admit the only other Mizoguchi film I’ve seen is Ugetsu, which was great and I liked better than this film. I wanted to fuck Kazuo in An Actors Revenge and Kyoko in Mothra, and have a three way with them in this movie.
>>203626571Rare serious post on /film/, regards. Only Mizoguchi I've seen was Street of Shame, didn't get much out of it. It seems I got into a jap mood today, gonna watch Woman in the Dunes, first jap new wave I'll see other than Tokyo Drifter.
>>203626941Maybe you should stick to r/criterion until you level up
>>203624766>filtered>ciminoYou must be a pleb to think something of this sort, he was a dishonest filmmaker who appealed to the lowest common denominator.
>>203627129What do you mean? Reveal your agenda.
>>203626571>>203626941I'm very much not a fan of Mizoguchi, but you should certainly check his other big acclaimed films (Sansho Dayu, Life Of Oharu) to analyze the heavy melodramatics he engages with, and perhaps understand the reasons why he got so much internal and then worldwide respect.I myself tend to get intrigued into watching more films from- specially canonical- directors I end up not liking. not so much to change my opinion, but to see where other people are coming from.
>>203627179You haven’t seen the basics and this is an advanced level forum
>>203627179He's triggered you didn't like a director he likes, the usual business
>>203627224>this is an advanced level forumHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>203619180So I just skimmed through his Letterboxd profile. And this retard spends most of the time complaining about these trends or quoting old farts who wrote for the Cahiers in the 60s. He has absolutely nothing substantial to say. Also he seems to dislike Trump and Putin. But he doesn’t say shit about bourgeois liberals.
>>203627224bring back /advanced/https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/102667381
>>203627241I didn't even dislike Street of Shame, just felt it was meh.>>203627224>the basicsHow could you even have finished the basics at 27 while studying and having a full time job? You guys know that there's probably like 2000 films that are "the basics", right? Of course, you will always lack knowledge about some area of kino, that's why kinowatching is always a work in progress.
>>203627409Nigga I saw all the basics at 21
>>203627473What are the basics for you? Were you NEETmaxxing?
>>203627553I saw 70% of the established canon in college when I lived in the dorms and had no gf
>>203627409>>203627473>>203627578>basics>established canonWhat the fuck is this shit
>>203627616Nigga it’s fucking simple, BFI, tspdt, stuff like that. Mane stop wastin my time mane
>>203627642Yeah I know about those, should you just combine all of the existing lists and that's the canon or what
>>203626941>Woman in the Dunes, first jap new wave I'll see other than Tokyo DrifterI absolutely love JNW so I’m a bit envious and hope you enjoy. There’s a ton of great shit out there.
>>203627578What is the established canon (for you)? For me, it's at least 2000 films minimum, including obscure movements like Yugoslav Black Wave, Fekete széria and Novísimo cine chileno
>>203627409>How could you even have finished the basics at 27 while studying and having a full time job?I did, way before 17. it’s called actually being a fan of cinema.
>>203627711Oh yeah, I got great expectations. The good thing about kino (and life, I guess), is that you always find something new to discover.
"Stop wasting my time", says the nigga gimmicker from the /film/ general of the Television & Film board of 4chan.
>>203627746You had a full time job before 17? Bitch, please.
>>203627746I did before 9, it's obvious to anyone who's at least somewhat into cinema that you should've watched 2300 films from the canon by the age of 10
>>203627769>>203627782lol I meant 27 it was a typo, but fuck it with zoomers nowadays who have tablets beginning at age 2, who knows
>>203627403>But he doesn’t say shit about bourgeois liberals.Funnily enough, I was just reading his profile and he does indeed say things about these e.g. in his critic of Parasite. Do you speak Portuguese? By the way, I agree he has nothing of much substance to say, it seems as if his long winded rants are just a front to justify his arbitrary taste. But they're nonetheless quite amusing to read for the sheer autismo put into them.
>>203627833Even more embarrassing, you don't really like cinema all that much, don't you? My nephew is only 3 and he's already watched the entirety of T&TNW (Trinidad and Tobago New Wave)
>>203627409>finished the basics at 27 You’re not a true fan of cinema until you realize that a basic understanding of life and existence doesn’t occur until mid 30s and everything you’ve seen up to then has been completely over your head.At this point you should literally start over and revisit every single piece of art you’ve ever seen with this new mature point of view and frame of reference.
>>203627887>you don't really like cinema all that much, don't you?Honestly I’ve always argued that when you hate the vast majority of an art form, can you really call yourself a fan of it? I find 90% (probably more) of movies, music, literature to be total fucking garbage.
>>203627919That goes without saying. When you turn like 35 rewatching the 5999 canon films is pretty much obligatory
>>203627974Most of life itself, measured and ranked, is fucking garbage. Art is just a natural consequence of our condition.
>>203627974>can you really call yourself a fan of it? As long as you've seen the basics yes, even if you hated 100% of it
>>203628006At which point you realize that you’ve seen 5999 completely different films, and need to go back watch them all again, this time with the subtitles and sound turned off.Incredible feeling.
>>203627974Garbage or not, I enjoy, -to some level-, like 40% of what I watch, read and listen to, but today's level of trash is sometimes too much even for a slop enjoyer like me, for example, Netflix as a platform is complete dogwater, unenjoyable pieces of shit everywhere. Watching Squid Games was the breaking point for me, where I realized that my suspicions of most people's state of mental retardation were not mere assumptions but rather realities. And no, I won't accept the "but taste is subjective!" argument; there is charming trash and there is trash-trash, and the masses consume and revere only the worst that even slop has to offer.
>>203628061Even if you hate 100% of it, you can still call yourself a fan….I’ll be thinking about this new level of retardation for awhile
>>203628044Probably true, unironically, but there is also so much beauty. I like chaos.
>>203628143I disagree with “so much”. Rare, fleeting, temporary, useless.
>>203628115The masses consume whatever they’re told to. Business realized long ago it doesn’t have to be remotely “good”.
>>203628174Don't you seek refuge in your passions? I'm such a loner, yet sometimes I cry alone while eating KFC at a park, because the trees are so beautiful.
>>203628127/film/ is not about enjoying stuff, it's about slogging through the established canon
>>203628204True, and grim.
>>203625407>Street Angel>The Wedding March>>203625576Quite the opposite, i'd say he's one of yhet few brazilian critics who ISN'T a fraud or a complete embarrasment. FOCO was a great thing. >>203626941How could you not get much of street of shame, the ending is one of the most brutal soul crushing in the history of cinema.>>203627154>DishonestHow so? He's the greatest american filmmaker since the Walsh/Ford generation, but of course you dumb burgers don't appreciate him.>>203627403>>203627866He's definitely a disciple of the macmahonists. And he has criticized the left many times.
>>203628227
>>203628384I don't even remember much of Street of Shame other than it was about prostitutes yet they didn't even seem sexualized, so that's that. Liked the street setting and the marketplace business that the movie had, though. And the train scene at the end was cool, too.
>>203628436Similar hairline, not fat, and it was a fucking park in the city, not a forest lol
>>203628384lmao
>>203628489
>>203628462Watch Sisters of Gion, from the 1930s, it's even more brutal. Mizoguchi was a motherfucker. >>203628489Nice answer faggot.
>>203616635Filtered.
>>203628384>but of course you dumb burgers don't appreciate him.I'm not a burger, but I guess that, were I to be a specially brainwashed one, The Deer Hunter would probably be one of my favourite movies.
Why are some /film/ threads good and some just abysmally terrible like this one? Do you just decide to act like complete morons all of a sudden some days?
>>203628784One of the better ones the past few days, the fuck are you talking about?
>>203628708Actually, this is kinda true. A phenomenon I've noticed in Letterboxd's pick four series is that american actors and directors seem to favor american movies much more than movies from any other part of the world or other, more unknown, filmic traditions. It's as if burgerland denizens were unaware of cinema from other parts of the world or overrated their own tradition into space with how much they seem to appreciate rather mid directors, actors and films, most notably, Hitchcock.
>>203628806Grim.
>>203628892lmao
>>203628784>Why are some /film/ threads goodProof?
/film/tards seem to be getting their jimmies quite rustled by based lmao posters
>>203628892He tweeted this after being btfo by someone using lmao.lmao
>>203628831>most notably, Hitchcock.Don't google your favorite yuropean or guatemalan underground art film directors' influences, it will probably upset you
>>203628384>>203628831Why are you forever triggered by them? Any post you don't like is ahhhhh you're an american
>>203628696Great argument, retard.
I've come to realize the only director I like is John Ford.
>>203627676No just make your own canon that’s what patricians do
>>203629060If it is to be only one, it's a great choice.
I've come to realize the only director I like is TB Johnson.
>>203629060David Lean is my ultimate director but John Ford is a respectable choice. Haven't seen a lot of his stuff but everything I watched I enjoyed and consider some of his films to be among my favorites
Looked at my local arthouse cinemas (like 10 of them) and the only things that interested me were Cuckoo and Kinds of Kindness.Nothing on this and next month.
>>203628911>>203555677
>>203629060Most of his movies are just Hollywood slop.
>>203629229how are they slop
>>203629206>the only things that interested me were Cuckoo and Kinds of Kindness.Both are shit, especially Kinds of Kindness. Possibly that Greek hack's worst film besides My Best Friend.
>>203629229How many Ford films have you watched?
>>203629206Kinds of Kindness is a fine film, if inferior to The Favourite and Poor Things. Still, always nice to watch an anthology by a single director. Lanthimos continues to be an interesting filmmaker even after getting bigger budgets, which not often happens.
>>203629008Don't really care about them, I was just describing what I saw>>203629021I'm not even anti american, I just think many americans are ignorant af, and more ignorant than people of other countries.
>>203629261They're in a generic Hollywood style, but done at the top of their game. Doesn't change the fact that they're still just Hollywood slop.>>203629347Too many.
>>203629322The Lobster is worse>>203629403It's alright, it's just the second act that kinda sucks.
>>203628784Dumontfag2 stopped posting
>>203628708Oh you're of those who thinks it's a reactionary/fascist film, even worse.>>203629021You're replying to two different people and i like americans overall.>>203629060Based.>>203629206At least you have local arthouse cinemas.
Do you guys consider yourselves cinephiles or film buffs?
>>203629465How is Ford's style "generic"? Define the style's characteristics.
I've noticed that several of the main regulars here post almost exclusively to criticize or attack others. Rarely a genuine praise or an initial post sharing an interest, only reactionary replies. A worse behavior for the quality of the general than nigga posters.
>>203629465>generic Hollywood styleWhat the fuck does this even mean
>>203629465>They're in a generic Hollywood stylelmao
>>203629566Attackers are ocassionaly annoying, but a lot of the time interesting. Niggaposters were just lame. Cool that they seem to have took a forced vacation.
>>203629566This website is CIA ragebait bots for the most part, good morning son. You're not actually replying to real people most of the time
>>203629465>Too manyI bet
>>203629537I don't like to label myself as anything. I just like the arts and specially cinema.
>>203629566Doesn't take long to notice that. It obeys the law of generals like all others do.>>203629595And this too. You're on the internet, you're a guinea pig.
Reminder that after nigga/film/ comes trans/film/
>>203629774We're already here :)
Fun conspiracy, what is a CIA ragebait bot, and what is its purpose?
>>203629774pls gib qt trap gf (male)
>>203629835Purpose: unknownReason I think they are actually a thing: there's just no way actual human beings can think behaving like that is cool past the age of 16-17
>>203629774Would
>>203627919This but unironically
>>203629594Whachu tokin bout NIGGA
>>203629824No we’re in /niggas/ until Ian 2025 then we can pick the next era
>>203629835I don't know specifically about CIA ragebait bots, but I do believe there is some truth to the dead internet theoryhttps://wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory
>>203629835>>203629886Actually not CIA, scratch that. Bots are implemented by Hiro himself to keep the site active. It really sucks to realise that most of the so called people here are not actual people
>>203630032Jan* as in January, the month of the Roman calendar
>>203612289Based, I say the same thing.
>>203630090I look like you
>>203614641>kenji mizocoochieI ain’t watching that shit nigga
>>203628831>overrated their own tradition Its this. They’re embarrassed and ashamed at the “artistic” output from their own country, so they try their best to ridiculously pump it up. I say this as an American independent filmmaker myself. You’ve got to be delusional to the point of brain damage if you think American filmmaking comes close to the heights achieved in the rest of the world.
>>203628892rofl
>>203629518>Oh you're of those who thinks it's a reactionary/fascist film, even worse.Wrong again. Although it must be said that the film is utterly pathetic from a political standpoint. No matter how you look at it, Deer Hunter is a cheap and dishonest piece of filmmaking. By the way, John Woo absolutely mogs Cimino in his remake of it, by extrapolating the melodrama and the action to comic proportions. At least one cannot watch Bullet in the Head and think it was meant to be taken seriously. At least not in the serious-realist way Cimino expects us to take his movie. Woo's version of it reduces the plot to a quasi-Hitchcockian study of the characters, its comicality conferring a depth Cimino could only have dreamt to achieve.
>>203629008They’re influenced by Tarkovsky, Bergman, Bresson, Dreyer, Godard. I’m not upset in the slightest.
>>203629537Phile, cause it makes me sound like a pervert.
No, I can actually prove it. /film/ is supposedly a general for people who are into cinema and are at least somewhat familiar with the history of it and all the nuances which enables them to appreciate various classic films regardless of their age. Now, people like that would never in their right mind refer to Ford films as 'Hollywood buzzword'. You saw a post by that 'anon' and thought>wow he's not really smart isn't he? Probably sub-80 iq or something, etc etcIn reality it was a scripted generic reply contaning at least one word from the trendy newfag 4chan lingo about a random director mentioned not too long ago (it could've been literally any other renowned director, not just Ford) to gather replies and keep the website active. See my post get deleted now
>>203629566>A worse behavior for the quality of the general than nigga posters.absolutely not
>>203630163>I say this as an American independent filmmaker myself.Prove it. Otherwise you're just another self-hating cuck larping.
>>203619365Heaven’s Gate is a masterpiece, don’t kid yourself.
>>203630270yawn
>>203629060Not a bad choice, his filmography is massive though
>>203630349Of course. Probably samefagging too.
What is the best Heaven's Gate cut?
>>203630163>t. TB "Gallofag" JohnsonBased.
>>203630016>>203630032>>203630148
>>203630389I’m not as dumbfuck retarded as our boy TB, there’s no way in hell I would want that kind of “/film/ praise and kindness”I said it to make the point, now this will be my last post on the subject
>>203629774fuck yes
>>203630041>The date given for this "death" is generally around 2016 or 2017.4chan went to complete shit and became barely usable around that time
>>203630428The 2012 Criterion release. Bottom picrel is what the theatrical release looked like, just absolutely drenched in sepia.
>>203630504it all goes back to election shilling (from both sides), and the big tech companies cracking down on anyone who slightly thought "wrong"
>>203630291>>203630589This.
>>203630487please tell me (s)he has a penis
>>203630627;)
>>203630487Hell no.
>>203630589Why do they do this
>>203630589bottom unironically looks better
>>203630589Soulless vs Soul
well, how would (You) write an alien encounter scene?
>>203631356Nigga wut is this Saturday mornin cartoon shit sheeeeeeeereeeeeeesh
>>203630589>b-but muh Criterion ruins every restorationClearly not
>>203630291wow just lookin at credits this film has unbelievable cast
>>203631392schrader the extraterrestrial coomer
>>203631696>changed it from the originalThey ruined it.
Just watched The Castle of Sand (1974,) absolutely fantastic movie.
>>203631858Cimino oversaw the whole thing, the criterion version was approved by him.
>>203631392I’ve written one, it’s slightly comical but ends on a very violent and disturbing note
>>203632177I don’t give a flying fuck who approved it
>dude it was overseen by the director!
>nooooooo the director can't decide how he wants his film to look if I don't approve it. mommy where are you, fuck criterion the jews aaaaahhhh
>>203632414For me Wong Kar Wai and most Taiwan directors are intellectual counterfeit. Take a working class job, come home with a beer, and a couple of slices of pizza, and there will be nothing better than a good Kung Fu or Godzilla movie.
>>203632282Relax, Friedkin. They break it all down here:https://youtu.be/SJ7SjwtDc6w
>>203629774i would bury my face so deep in his balls and ass
>>203632803I don’t give a flying fuck what’s broken down
>>203629028It takes extra energy to argue against the 'all of Rossellini movies are Allied propaganda' take because the premise is utterly retarded. I assume you have not watched The Flowers of Saint Francis, Stromboli, Europa 51', Viaggio in Italia and so many others that simply make your take false.Now let me say the following supposing you intended to say that his so called War trilogy (Open city, Paisan, Germany year 0) is Allied propaganda. The fascists and collaborationists are indeed shown as degenerates, evil people, but the Anglo-Americans are not shown as a force of Good everytime; only in individual cases. And there are collaborationist characters that find redemption (like Karl-Heinz in Germany Year Zero)
>>2036328036/10
>>203632759Eyoeyoeuo mane the /niggas/ posters be trippin all ova dis hizzy like Lebaneze pagerz and u know wot big nigga it all gose bak 2 duh jooz
>WHOA IT SHOULD BE SHOT ON FILM WITH PRACTICAL EFFECTS!>THE COLOR PALETTE IS TOO DIM WHAT HAPPENED TO THE VIBRANT COLORS OF TECHNICOLOR!>DIGITAL COLOR GRADE? EW IT'S NOT LIKE A 70MM DRIVE-IN ROAD SHOW THE KIND TARANTINO TALKED ABOUT>OH MY GOD IT'S FOLK HORROR JUST LIKE MY FAVORITE A24 MOVIE MIDSOMMER>IT'S A MUDPUNK REVISIONIST WESTERN AND MARTIN SCORSESE SAID IT'S HIS FAVORITE MOVIE.>PAULINE KAEL WROTE A REVIEW ABOUT IT, YOU IGNORAMUS, IT WON IN THE CANNES FILM FESTIVAL >THE ENDING FEELS JUST LIKE THE FILMS OF ANTONIONI'S BLOW-UP>LOLA MONTES IS UGH. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF A PLOT TO JUSTIFY THE OVER THE TOP VISUALS.
>>203632791just enjoy both, pseud
>>203632791>le heckin epic Herzog quote!!Get some new material already.
>>203632999Quite literally flawless.
>>203632956Based and sameI'm straight btw
>>203632414I posted that the other day and notice how the good Wong release + Heaven’s Gate restoration were both released in 2012. Criterion hadn’t shit the bed at that point yet.
>>203629774Yo I’m not gonna lie, I ain’t gay or nuffin, but I really wanna fuck this dude in the ass
TAKESHI KANESHIRO ATE A BIG MAC JUST LIKE I DO I LOVE FOREIGN FILMS AND WONG KAR WAI. OH MY GAWD!!!!!! QUENTIN TARANTINO SAID IT MADE HIM WEEP FOR THE POWER OF CINEMA. FAYE WONG SHOULD BE MY GIRLFRIEND!!! EWWW THE GRANDMASTER? THAT'S KUNG FU THOUGH THAT'S NOT SERIOUS ART HOUSE CINEMA.
Quite literally flawless.
>>203633152Zesty post.
>>203633169>Quite literally flawless.New inside joke just dropped
>>203633160>QUENTIN TARANTINO SAID IT MADE HIM WEEP FOR THE POWER OF CINEMAlol did he really?
>>203633169Reminder Lee is the real genius behind Tsai's work>As Tsai was taking a shot of me turning my head, he found my action too slow. After three takes, he asked if I could act more naturally. After the fourth take, Tsai lost his temper. ‘But being slow is my natural,’ I argued. Perhaps my slowness has influenced Tsai’s aesthetics gradually.https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/long-takes-allow-us-to-engage-in-time-lee-kang-sheng-in-conversation
>>203633160NOOOOO STOP WHERE’S MY DAVID LEEEEENCHI NEED MY CREEPY HOWDY MAN!!
>>203633252>After the fourth take, Tsai lost his temper.lmao
>>203633274He only needed one.
>>203633254Pseud filtered by the master of mood.
>>203633306I like Lynch, I’m just taking the piss in typical /film/ fashion.
Jacques Rivette has the best Joan kino, right ?
>>203633330Somehow that makes me respect you even less. Dishonest posting.
>>203633333Not really, but it's a pretty good one. Probably the most deluded Jeanne, his and Bonnaire's.
>>203633333checked and lmao
>>203633330>shitposting ironically just to follow the general's pattern/film/'s awfulness sometimes still surprises me
>>203633330Lynchfags, everyone.
>>203633351>>203633418>>203633446Cry me a fucking river.
>>203633499>le hecking angry friedkin!!cringe
>>203633499Too late. You've already exposed your faggotry.
>>203625136Based
>>203633330lmao
>>203633040Based.>>203632414>Wong Kar-WaiHe's always been aesthetically shit. >>203633333Bresson obviously, with Preminger as second.
>>203633671>He's always been aesthetically shit.He's the greatest aestheticist alive besides Lynch.
/lmao/
>>203633710like Malick, he just makes perfume commercials
>>203633889Quite literally.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WvSSjhmOmI
that perfume merchant Malick
Yes, yes, it's not shitty enough, we needed the eternal schizo to start going raging about Malick again
To The Wonder and Song to Song are sitting on my PC waiting to be watched but I don't know if I should even waste my time after the shitshow that was Knight of Cups
>>203633956Perfume postcards, the worst kind
>>203633930can i log this?
>>203634015Why did you dislike it??
>>203634015You’re damaging your hard drive just having that filth sitting on there, delete it NOW
NEW>>203634052>>203634052>>203634052>>203634052NEW
>>203634020don't think so
>>203633418When I post a film I like, I’ll reply to myself just to shit on it first, this way nobody else can take away what’s mine I thought everyone did this?
then i won't watch
>>203634157ok
>>203634157/film/ in a nutshell
>>203634015If you failed to appreciate Knight of Cups, then for sure don't bother, it's not for you.
>>203634307How can you fail to appreciate something that isn’t worth appreciating?
>>203634421Do we really need this song and dance every time?
>>203632759The director indeed should not have any say in this.
>>203634918Exactly, they only direct it. Only /film/ intellectuals should decide what goes in or out in remasterings and restorations.
>>203635146The only one who should decide is the film itself, by the way it looked when it first came out. You do know what the word "restoration" means, don't you?
>>203635302Agreed, we need to have more discussions with the films and let them speak for themselves
>>203635354Yes, the way every not director-approved restoration does.
>>203635302Just as much as I hope you know what director means. He (or a DP) is the one who knows what he wants the film to look. I don't assume bad faith on their parts.
>>203635445I wouldn't necessarily call it bad faith, but we've gone through shit like >>203632414 a bit too often sadly.
