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why could he stop time again
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God, it is you who gave me my fortune, and it is Chronus who will seek our revenge.
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>>204067188
because autistic visionary artists have the cognitive power to unlock the meaning of the universe you fucking retard, didn't the movie literally spell it out?
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>>204067188
Because everyone else is surely so focused on "passing time" and decadence
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>>204067188
I actually don't know. Were those statues real? Why were the statues alive?
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TIME
STOP
*start jerking off*
*snap fingers right before climaxing into Nathaniel emmanuie’s face*
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New personality and self insert?
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>>204067245
bow boner was unmitigated kino
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>>204067188
she was trans
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>>204067188
Is this the only thread up for the movie? jeez
Anyway every little bit of text that i've glanced at about this movie, and also every screen shot i've seen, make me think of star wars prequels. The Rome shit, the art deco americana cgi blue screen look etc
Is there something to this?
If so that's FUCKED because the whole reason LUCAS overreached with his prequels is he felt embarrassed that he was a popcorn flick maker not comparable to specifically, in his lament, Coppola
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>>204068472
No, there's a real prequel feel to the whole movie but it's not about the looks. It's the Lucas-style "innocence" and out-of-the-box earnestness of the script, that feels cringe in this shitty meta-ironic modernity we observe it from and which the movie itself hates, and it all adds to the kino feel. It's the MOTY hands down.
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>>204068472
it's like the prequels (and star wars in general) in the sense it's bright and earnest and the characters are fairly simple and have clear and archetypal motivations but it has none of the stuff that people really hate about the prequels (Jar jar, bad slapstick humor, undermining or retconning superior OT lore)
the title card literally says it's "Megalopolis: A Fable" and if you go into it with the mindset you are watching a fantastical morality story told through avante garde cinema you should be able to enjoy it
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>>204067188
>mfw nobody goes to see my movie
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>>204067188
Never have been able to understand why the person who is able to stop time doesn't almost immediate become essentially blind.
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>>204069063
Is this supposed to look like shit acting?
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>>204067188
While you were partying in DA CLUUUUB he was unraveling the mysteries of time and space.
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>>204067188
Adam Driver is adamantly ugly.
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>>204067188
I see right through you, OP
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He stops it so we can discuss this masterpiece of a film forever
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>>204070713
bumping a page 10 thread is borderline experimental
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It's a metaphor.
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>>204070735
When we leap in to the unknown, we know we are free
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>>204067580
does anyone even have an answer to this does it even matter
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>>204069063
what in the actual fuck
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>>204070754
They are also a metaphor.
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>>204070742
It's not. Explain megalon.
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>>204067580
>>204070754
Are we even real? If so, are we more real or less real than the statues who long since have had to monitor our decline with held tongues of stone?
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>>204070771
Okay but he can actually stop time in the movie that's literal while being metaphorical, it's a thing other characters reference him doing. I want like a companion novel or something to this movie with worldbuilding. Was Caesar imagining the statues because le fall of Rome le falling empire or were there literal animate statues powered by megalon
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>>204067188
>time stop powers
>character called Wow PLATINUM

What’s going on here, could it be…?
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>>204068472
I saw it last night and I thought that too.
As others have said it's extremely earnest, modernist in an old school way and has this sort of operatic vision, but just like the prequels completely fails to accomplish any of its ambitions due to a diabolical (I can't stress this enough) absolutely FUCKING AWFUL script. Whereas every character in the prequels were bland as fuck, everyone in this movie is insane. In both you have some very good actors doing their best with the awful script by hamming it up, just having fun.

There's also the overreliance on bad CGI. Big differences is Megalopolis feels less like a movie the director was forced to make and more the passion project of an unfortunately senile genius.
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>>204067665
This, and Shia’s performance was also Kino, Kermode wrong as always
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>>204070787
>Explain megalon
He's a cool guy
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>>204069063
HOLY KINO
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>>204067588
I'm sure Nathaniel would be greatly appreciate it
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>>204069097
Same reason they’re not locked in place by their clothing
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>>204070819
Honestly, the movie feels like it's the abridged theatrical version of something that should have, like, a 3+ hour extended cut. But then again that can't possibly be the case, considering Coppola basically made it completely on his own terms.
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>>204070872
That entire side of family in the film was so good, I loved Clodio, Cesar, bow boner uncle. Cesar having like a BPD crazy mom and injecting all these freudian mommy issue feelings into his character with a single out-of-place scene was great I loved that. My biggest criticism with the movie was that the Giancarlo family was boring as fuck. The daughter was so boring I couldn't buy that Cesar would ever fall in love with someone that dull
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lol
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>>204068511
It'd be cringe in any era anon. The script was a complete mess. Compare it to his great movies from the 70s. The plot meandered, went nowhere, none of the characters felt believable, relatable, human. It was painful to watch, characters kept saying director's notes outloud. He needed a screenwriter to help him translate all those ideas into dialogue.
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>>204067188
What are the Megalotaxes and Megalomeals?
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>>204070787
Megalon is a fictional biosynthetic metamaterial engineered to have properties not observed in naturally occurring materials, that is derived not from the properties of the base materials but from their newly designed structures. Its precise shape, geometry, size, orientation, and arrangement gives it the "smart" properties of manipulating electromagnetic, acoustic, or even seismic waves.
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>>204068511
This is exactly how I felt too, and I hate that I had to suppress my own cringe response at times.
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>>204071075
I said explain not define.
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>>204069063
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Megalon looked like it was designed by Midjourney
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>>204071109
it's a plot element with magical properties to signify the ingenuity and progress of humanity. By merging himself with the megalon after his assassination attempt, Cesar is able to transcend over his corrupted self and the institutions who corrupt the purity of the individual.
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>>204070998
How do you not realise the script it had while filming? It’s so obvious as soon as you hear the words spoken out loud by someone
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>>204071220
So the message here is transhumanism or at the very least transcendence through science and technology? Because that’s such a naive take and everything in the last century has pointed to the opposite
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>>204071277
No, I'd say Megalon is simply human ingenuity and progress. It's the -philosophical- stuff a new society could be built on, metaphorically.
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>>204071277
I mean, that's not entirely it but that's certainly a part of big C's message. Look at his take on populism for example, he's wrong on almost any issue he addresses, but he does it in a sincere and exciting way which is why people like myself still loved the movie
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>>204071407
I don't know if I hated the movie or not, to be honest. I think the movie is extremely rough and thinks too highly of itself, but then it has absolutely hilarious dumb stuff like the swastika tree stump.
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>>204071407
I liked it too but any time I perceived a specific intent or commentary by Coppola my first thought was that it was some naive take from someone who’s spent all his life focused on film rather than the reality of the world
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>>204069063
Haha…it’s good guys…I promise
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>>204069063
AND YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF LIVING IN A SHOTGUN SHACK
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>>204068511
Not disagreeing but you can tell you've never watched anything arthouse kek glad you enjoyed it
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>>204069063
>Coppala was groping his actresses to make *this*?!
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>>204071515
Yeah it's like listening to a high schooler form their political beliefs in real time, we can look back and cringe remembering when we had those oh so unique thoughts as kids. I think what's most alarming is all the references and required reading makes me think Coppola has spent his life actually considering the arguments of very learned men, and spent a great deal of his time considering this stuff himself. If he's read half of what he mentions in that list that's floating around he'd have to have spent a great deal of time and thought in this stuff. So I'm left to conclude he's retarded, but he's sincerely retarded and that sincerity is so welcome I forgive all of his retarded stances
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>>204070761
Go see megalopolis RIGHT NOW
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>>204072367
Idk quoting Marcus Aurelius like it’s some profound esoteric philosophy seems bizarre for a man in his 80s. It’s the kind of thing you’d expect a college student to do
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>>204067188
to make you stop and think that you should get a life instead of thinking about fiction
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WHO HERE /EMERSONIAN MIND/??
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>>204068472
>>204068596
"People" that hate prequels are Always unterkis
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>>204072494
It is. That's what I'm saying. He's spent a long period of his life reading and learning and thinking and it all came down to him still being retarded and pulling nothing meaningful out of any of his influences. Aurelius is a fucking bore, most overrated of all the philos. Coppola would have gotten more out of reading Rousseau's non philosophy shit like Confessions if he was smart enough to find the importance of hearing about human nature rather than being lectured on it to someone's end
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>>204070998
godfather esp pt 2 was always wildly overrated and milius bullied him into making AN as great as it is, nothing else by him is even of any real note

actual great artists/directors improve rather than disimprove with age, c.f. clint eastwood
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>>204072685
I agree with you on godfather 2, but the idea that artists improve indefinitely is horseshit. For every one example you can point to of this being the case I can point to a hundred more, across any medium or creative realm. Decay is the norm, it's human, and it's coming for both of us
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>>204069063
AYYY MACARENA
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>>204072685
>>204072736
Both of you retarded browngroids, Megalopolis is kino and unlimited browngroid filter. Perfect one drop filter.
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Coppola has only made 3 good movies: the first 2 Godfather flicks and Apocalypse Now. Dracula was ok but not nearly as kino as the forementioned films. Coppola hasn't done anything notable in over 40 years.
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>>204072845
Rumble Fish is his best movie
>>204072804
I love the movie retard, I'm just stating a fact about aging.
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>>204069063
MOMS GONNA FREAK
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>>204072736
partially agree, every artist "loses it" somewhat over time but the decline hits those with more talent and healthier lifestyles with less severity

take care of yourselves and stay making great stuff into your twilight years bros, there's a lengthy list of composers, authors and directors who were doing so well into their 80s (which FFC obviously isn't on)
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>>204072845
>He's never watched The Conversation.
Look at this idiot everybody!



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