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>NOOOOOOOO!! You can't just kidnap me and perform your surgeries on me!
>Are these... Are these boobs and a pussy?? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME?!?!
>NO!! I won't wear this cute dress! I'll rather kill myself than accept all this!!
>My name is NOT Vera!! I'm VICENTE!
>...
>I love you, daddy... I think I've always been a woman. Thank you...
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>>206513149
Obsessed
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>>206513149
Because of the "offended" woke faggots like (you), we don't have Gender Bender kinos anymore.
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>>206513149
it happens at circumcision
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>>206513114
You are cute and you look like her
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>>206513114
Realistically, the character probably killed himself not too long after the movie ended, right?
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Elena is based
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>>206514982
No, he raped the lesbian he was crushing on
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Someone told me that in the movie the mad scientist end up being cuckolded by the guy he turned into his woman despite all the trouble he went through to turn the guy into a hot woman. Because of this i've refused to watch the movie.
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>>206515935
well he was his prisoner and did it against his will. you thought they'd just live happily ever after?
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>>206516087
I don't care, i won't watch a movie where a madlad goes through all the trouble of turning a dude into a cute woman and doesn't even get to fuck it. Fuck subverting my expectations.
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>>206513531
The us is a jewish nation and needs to follow jewish traditions.

Now stop being antisemitic.
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>>206515935
>>206513114
WHAT
MOVIE
?
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>>206516138
But Antonio does fuck Elena, it's just that Elena was raped before Antonio got dibs on him/her
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>>206516138
He should have at least kept her chained up in his basement like come on
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>>206516268
Thank God, at least he get to enjoy it but the cuckolding thing. Just why?
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>>206515353
with what? Feminine penis is no more
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>>206513114
It wasn't supposed to be a documentary!
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>>206515935
>Because of this i've refused to watch the movie.
based not botherer
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>>206516225
Under the Skin, I think
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>>206516225
nevermind, found it.
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>>206516087
They do in the book
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>>206516865
Now i will read your book
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ITT: chuds showing their true (blue, white and pink) colours of trans acceptance.
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>>206516308
based thirdie who honor kills rape victims
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>>206513149
imagine not being a republican in 2024
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>>206517005
I voted for Trump to make sure things get so bad for trannies that I'll never give into the temptation to transition no matter how much crying or masturbation I continue to do.
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>>206513114
This what Trump makes chuds think Harris would have done to you but is going to do himself.
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>>206516415
Don't you dare keep me from seeing kino

What's the fucking movie?
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>>206517087
Ok John 50
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>>206515935
>despite all the trouble he went through to turn the guy into a hot woman
maybe im misremembering but doesnt he turn him into a woman for revenge? where are you getting the "I will make muh waifu" plot? The guy he's force transitioning killed his daughter or something
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>>206513149
It is. There are currently men whose wives divorced them and then decided to troon our their sons for no reason except that they know it would hurt them.

Should've left the kids alone man. That's why we crushed you. All you had to do was not act like an abused child who finally gets a scrap of child and then turns into Stalin.
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>>206513149
sounds based
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>>206517261
So? If i kidnap the guy that killed my daughter, go full mad scientist turning him into a hot woman as punishment, and then make him into a sex slave that i can rape back in return, i will want to enjoy that bussy. Or as a viewer i will want to see the mad doctor enjoy that bussy until he'd satisfied.
I don't want to watch this entire plot just for in the end to see the doctor die or get caught, or have that bussy taken away from him.
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Is this the thread?
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>>206517297
>thats why we crushed you

Don’t you mean:
>thats why we voted for israel! we love jewish concepts! long live multiculturalism and lgbt!
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>>206517087
Trannies are the fags of the 2020s. Conservatives whine and cry about it now, but in a decade, they'll fully accept it. You'll see plenty of troons in the GOP.
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>>206513149
We were just starting a golden era of hot trannies who got put on female hormones before puberty but the Trump Administration is going to destroy it and send us back to the stone ages where trannies are just middle aged guys who start eating their wives' menopause treatment estrogen pills.
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>>206517328
the goal wasnt getting a trans wife, the goal was to fuck with the guy and the scientist succeeded in that
I watched the film years back and dont remember a plot where the scientist wants to fuck her
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>>206517461
Why not fuck in the guy in all sense of the word?
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>>206517475
>why not fuck a tranny
uhh.. anon?
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>>206517564
It... it's just fantasy, and it is for vengeance. It is different.
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>>206517422
But are these "hormones at 14" girls keeping their dicks? Because if not, what's the point?
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>>206517641
Psychologically hot that someone born male grows tits and childbearing hips and loses his dick.
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>>206513114
>This will never happen to me
Fuck
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>>206517820
Post address
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>>206517836
You're not a surgeon. You're just a neet with a tranny fetish
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>>206513335
>gender bender kinos
Lmao, even when they are right wing Americans still end up begging for tranny shit.
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>>206517964
Then again aren't we all?
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>>206517641
this
no dick, no diamond
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>>206513149
>we need to have entire sections of kondergarten libraries dedicated to picture books that detail me being molested as a child helping me realize Im gay
>I-i-i-is that a b-b-b-b-bible! SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE AIIIIIIIIII HELP ME OBAMASAMA
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>>206518457
>The kids MUST read my Jewish fanfaction so they'll know god will send them to hell if they masturbate
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>>206513149
THEY'RE EATING THE CATS!!!
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>>206517297
Zero chance American hands typed this esl post
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>>206518654
Exactly, children never experimented prior to Obama.
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>>206518704
They actually do eat cats tho
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>>206519056
OK, grandpa. Trump won and now all the immigrants are going back.
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>>206519056
Libs dont understand what Never, means, so Never turns into once and they still act like they hold the W. Like when a venezuelan gang took over an entire apartment complex of like 4 buildings and kept browbeating people about "Calm down, they only took over one whole apartment complex not the entire city" like slowly being conquered by foreign gangs is nothing to worry about
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>>206519135
>Libs dont understand what Never, means, so Never turns into once and they still act like they hold the W. Like when a venezuelan gang took over an entire apartment complex of like 4 buildings and kept browbeating people about "Calm down, they only took over one whole apartment complex not the entire city" like slowly being conquered by foreign gangs is nothing to worry about
Except that never happened, it was a LARP by a Jew slumlord who didn't want to pay money to fix his shithole apartment building.
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>>206519218
>Ackshually that didnt happen
okay bud, hide your dogs and cats
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>>206519247
Hmmm we should believe all (((Zev Baumgarten)))'s claims. What would (((they))) have to gain from dividing us?
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>>206517183
The Skin I Live In (2011)
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hmmm. I genuinely don't like that these type of stories appeal to me. gender dysphoria, or whatever it is that makes me desire being a woman, is such an ugly disorder, sometimes it doesn't even feel like me, but I can't block out the thoughts unless I perpetually distract myself, but then I end up feeling guilty and beat myself up over the fact that if I don't find a way to become a woman fast, then I'm going to have to sit with these thoughts forever anyway, down the line, no matter how much I ignore them, they will resurface, and torment me.

it's so weird too, because I feel nothing like any of the trans people I see, I'm actively antagonistic with the community because I just hate their personalities and cliquey behaviour, reminds me of kpop retards, or swifties, or furries etc. That sort of congealed blog of synchronous personalities that strips all individuality, where every member feels like the exact same person
sigh, just ranting now, ignore me
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>>206517461
He kidnaps and troons the guy out of revenge for the rape of his daughter (though it turns out the guy didn't rape her)
During the process he decides to make the guy into a copy of his dead wife and mindbreak him into submission
The trooned guy retains his sanity by basically constantly saying YWNBAW to himself but pretends to be submissive so he can get a chance to kill the scientist and free himself

Also at some point the trooned guy is raped by some criminal who breaks into the scientist's house
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>>206517061
Good goy...
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>>206519767
It's just a really unhealthy fetish people turn into their personality. That's difference between the degenerates like us and them. We have some amount of self awareness and see how destructive it is. But can't really do anything about it. Besides suffer I guess.
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>>206520686
Thing is. I want to believe it's a fetish so bad. But it's so persistent, and has shown up in so many instances of my life that I don't know that I can. Like for example, it took me quite a while till I actually "jerked off" compared to my classmates in school, and before that before 10 years old I would play pretend as a totally spy girl, and post 10 years old I was obsessed with ranma 1/2 and would literally steal bras from my mom to pretend I had tits when home alone. And I did all of this before I even knew what sex was, I have a distinct memory of being made fun of at camp for asking what sex is.
My point is. I feel like I'm fucked in a unique way, I haven't found any remotely relatable experiences to mine anywhere on the internet. I don't actually think about this shit that often because it is genuinely unbearable to, but when I do, it's depressing.
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>>206521257
I've wanted to basically be Nova from Starcraft for decades, but it will never happen.

We should play to our strengths, that means using what you're born with.
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>>206517422
>>206517641
what happens if a biological girl gets on hormone blockers then gets off them at 18?
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>>206521257
You were a woman in a past life and can't move on or are not much of a hylic to get lost in this life cycle.
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>>206521485
I was born with ADHD and a high metabolism, and that's about all I'm good for. Don't think there's much to hope for.
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>>206521810
>or are not much of a hylic
I have literally never heard of the word "hylic" before in my life, what does it mean?
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>>206521739
females hormones are as fucked as men, most upper middle class families do just this asxl you end up with a daughter that actually is feminine and better looking than she otherwise would have turned out.
Now ask why this is not done as normal practice
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>>206517005
Here's a windmill of friendship and tolerance. The blue and pink is very dark, but it still counts.
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>>206521914
It's gnostic theological buzzword for what people call NPCs now. There was levels to how advanced a soul was. Hylics were basically meat automatron who reacted only on emotion and hunger in the moment with zero spirituality or self awareness.
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>>206521257
You sound kind of like me and I've been repressing this tranny shit for years. I'm pretty sure I want to get started on hormones soon but I can't find the courage to make an appointment for it. I'm not even sure if I'm gonna totally troon out. I've just had these thoughts for so long and I feel like I should at least give HRT a shot to see how I like it.
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>>206522098
You will never be a woman
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>>206522098
I'm literally not going to say anything to this at all, because every word I could spill out about this would just make you depressed. All I'll say is, it comes down to two things.
Do you have anything to live for?
Do you have anything to lose?
If the answer is no, then yes...then I don't think it's worth it. But otherwise if shit is so fucked for you anyway, that all life feels meaningless and hopeless...there really is not much to lose other than your libido, which you'll forget even mattered unless you're a porn addicted gooner.
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I enjoy crossdressing, but living as a woman sounds like a nightmare
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>>206522087
interesting, what do you mean by getting lost in a life cycle then? do you just mean getting too attached to your life, when it doesn't matter since reincarnation exists?
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>>206522098
don't. You'll never be a woman
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>>206522098
do it faggot
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>>206521257
you know there's a board full of people with relatable experiences on this very website
>>>/lgbt/
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>>206522098
one of the first questions that should have been asked was...how old are you?
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>>206523263
wrong.
1st things first, I am incredibly naturally predisposed to antagonism against the trans community in general for reasons I laid out here:>>206519767 I don't like the archetypes trans people always embody, some variation of cringe punk rebel or goth, or literally sex freak degenerate, or literal obsessed with pop culture faggot (swifties, kpop tards) and agp losers
2nd things second, I have been to that community and I get shunned because nobody relates to my experience, but nobody will say that (because being inclusive is the aesthetic) so instead they'll call me a narcissist or attention whore or some other name, because I "think you're so special" when I say that I don't want to be a woman but blah blah blah can't help it.

I don't know why, but a combination of these two factors make it unbearable for me to enter any trans community, genuinely hate almost all of them. There's a 3rd element that I haven't mentioned, and it's that a lot of trans people, once they become "successful" (pass) they start acting like cringe as fuck entitled women who are above the peasants (non passers, and just men in general) all because chasers are literal retards with zero self control that obsess over them (and because trans people in general are hugboxy as fuck)

so yeah, that's how things are for me. can't share my pain with anybody because nobody gets it, and my personality is naturally the opposite of predisposed to trans people.
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>>206523264
I'm not underaged if that's what you're getting at

>>206522338
>there really is not much to lose other than your libido, which you'll forget even mattered unless you're a porn addicted gooner.
My libido's already pretty low and I don't watch porn
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>>206523533
you do seem a bit intolerable to be honest
I think you're just scared of opening up and letting yourself be emotionally vulnerable, because you don't want to be cringe
also it's funny that you just said you don't want to be a woman, while in the previous post you made it pretty clear that you do want to be a woman. So maybe people are calling you out on that cognitive dissonance
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>>206523533
>I am incredibly naturally predisposed to antagonism against the trans community
Then don't get surprised when they tell you to fuck off
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>I'm not underaged if that's what you're getting at
no, more like transitioning becomes harder the older you get unless you're blessed with stupid genes, it's gunna be tough looking in the mirror, the contrast between a feminine looking chest and a masculine looking everything else can fuck you up, and make you doubt hard, it's easier if you barely have any masculine qualities because your puberty isn't done yet
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>>206523725
I've been told multiple times I still look like a teenager or that I look like a twink and my body's not very masculine either. Not saying I'd be guaranteed to pass but the truth about passing is that it's genes>>>age and lots of people who start as teens end up looking like shit still.

Like I said though I'm not even for sure gonna troon out and I might just take HRT and mandmode.
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Try appearing publicly as a woman a few times before you even consider transitioning. Get or make a friend with a woman who can really doll you up. Not like a whore, like a respectable woman, and see if you even like it at all. There's more to it than all the fetish shit. It's not all mini skirts, fishnets, and heels.
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>>206523876
>There's more to it than all the fetish shit. It's not all mini skirts, fishnets, and heels.
I'm not interested in that shit. Never have been. Not everyone troons out because they're a porn addicted gooner like /pol/chuds want to believe.
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>>206523876
dressing up as a woman while being a masculine man with male skin and beard shadow is pretty gross
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>>206524017
Actually it's hilarious. Do it at Halloween and everyone will laugh as long as it's 2011 or earlier.
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>>206523635
Okay, it is very obvious to me that you're from /lgbt/ and I honestly don't want to have this conversation with you. I honestly hate the modern day trends of psychoanalyzing so much but...
>also it's funny that you just said you don't want to be a woman, while in the previous post you made it pretty clear that you do want to be a woman. So maybe people are calling you out on that cognitive dissonance
I don't know why, but this is exactly it, this is what triggers you losers over at /lgbt/
You guys have such a narrow view of gender (ironically) that you literally cannot conceptualize a person like me.

The best way I can explain myself is:
Me, the person I am, the one who posseses self awareness and can think. The abstraction of my brain.
Does not want to be a woman. I do not feel feminine. I do not have feminine interests, I do not enjoy feminine culture, I do not relate to women, I do not like most feminine archetypes, not even tomboys. And a very strong staple of trans women (wanting children) is something I swore to myself as a child to never have.
But my brain. The physical source of "me". The thing that runs my body, and my baseless desires (gag reflex, hunger, fear of death etc). Cannot stand hair on my body, hates my brow, hates my Adams apple, hates my square jaw, hates my nose, hates my broad shoulders, hates when I'm bald (I'm not balding I have just always hated haircuts) and in contrast, enjoys feminine clothes, enjoys wearing a bra, enjoys sounding like a woman (when I was younger I could do a girl voice and it helped in larping as a totally spy) and other things I'm probably forgetting

I'm complicated, you're jealous that you're not. Fuck you.
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>>206524100
yeah I bet you got a lot of laughs haha
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>>206523670
haha okay, I'm just glad you guys don't try and play pretend that you're not the way I describe, at least I'm not delusional.
if you guys can't handle somebody criticizing you, even when they're literally just like you. Then I don't care to be part of that community. Whatever I'll die alone without having done anything meaningful with my life, I don't care. I was cursed. It is what it is.
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>>206524150
you are your brain
you're just compartmentalizing as a cope. You don't want to want to be a woman, but you definitely want to be a woman.
you have free will, but you can't choose what your will wants you to do. You want what you want, and it's your reaction to those feelings that makes you unhappy
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>>206524017
Did you miss the part of me saying to get a woman to help you? If you don't have a single friend that's a girl then becoming trans without any help is not going to do you any good.
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>>206524739
Nta, but most of my friends are girls and I'd still feel pretty uncomfortable asking them to doll me up out of nowhere.
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>>206524346
this doesn't make sense to me. I don't view my existence that way. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but for other people? they really just are their brain. but because of the way I am, and the way I've been treated, I've had to do a lot more introspection and deliberation about myself growing up.

I don't know how to explain this in an intuitive way that explains the difference from normal experience, but also doesn't sound narcissistic. but basically there are like different key points in my life where I "became a different person".

see how silly that sounds? because if I say this, somebody is just going to say "that's what happens to everybody" but they're not aware of how much conscious awareness and effort it took for me to stop wanting to play sports, or stop wanting to be a class clown, or stop wanting to chase girlfriends, or stop wanting to hang out with friends.

all of these sound depressing as fuck, but the last one is actually the biggest and most meaningful one. I view my life as slowly becoming a sentient being. I started as a bot, an NPC who needed to be part of the group and please people, and became somebody who realized literally none of that matters.

but that's the thing right? everybody would say they have an experience like that, but I know for a fucking fact based on the way I see people act in general, and how they still treat me, that they don't even remotely mean the same thing that I do.

so it's sort of that classical philosophical problem about how, you can never truly know somebody else is experiencing the same thing you are and vice versa.

if that's too much words for you and you just skipped to the last thing basically...:
my brain does things that I don't agree with on principle. consciousness cannot be found in the brain, therefore reality (as we know it) does imply that to some degree, we are separate from our minds anyway. I have no reason to want to be a woman. My brain just wants to be.
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holocaust for trannies
unironically
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I love trans women so much bros
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>>206524926
You think it is easier to come out as a transwoman on your own? It's going to spread through your friend circle like wildfire when you come out either way. You may as well do it with someone you can half trust to explore these feelings with.
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What are some trans pornstars that actually look sophisticated and classy?
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>>206525019
Why don't you just try HRT and manmode like I'm considering? You don't necessarily have to go all the way if you don't want to. I don't agree with a lot of the non binary stuff but the idea of being an androgynous/feminine looking man might work for me rather than going full troon.
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>>206518704
>>206519029
Based.
Those sick fags could have had everything they wanted if they supported dems but they knew it was disgusting behavior and sacrificed those privileges for the betterment of this country.
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>Why don't you just try HRT and manmode like I'm considering? You don't necessarily have to go all the way if you don't want to.

I didn't want to say this, because it just begs further questioning, and I always feel awkward about blog posting on 4chan, but I already have (I'm off it right now) but it's complicated.
Ironically hrt can actually bring out how masculine your body is. Or it can make you feel even worse weirdly (something like "I've been taking HRT for X long and nothing's changed, oh my god I'm so fucked") then there's concerns, like hiding it from family, other concerns like food intake and metabolism, concerns about the right dose (contrary to conventional wisdom, higher dose does not actually necessarily mean better results, Im not up to date on the details for this, but basically you have to have the right amount of dose that your body doesn't convert excess estrogen into something else)

I'm of course of the opinion that hrt is probably better than no hrt, but I'm also incredibly doompilled and in my "nothings ever going to change I'm fucked, but at the same time I'll definitely regret it in the future if I give up" stage of things, so I don't really know what to do. Obviously something needs to change, but what?
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>>206524150
>gag reflex
We could train that out of you if you want. You pretty little princess you.
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>>206515022
I came in here expecting pics of Elena and talking about the movie but it’s just full of retards arguing. Typical
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>>206525019
I feel like I was on a very similar path to you but I ended up getting pussy in my 20's and that really turned shit around for me.

It's cool that you've rationalized your absolute failure at living a normal life as some kind of sign of your superiority though, whatever keeps you from roping I suppose.
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>>206525802
sucking dick is so boring man, I don't get the appeal
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>>206513335
Oops is still the reigning champ
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>>206525904
>I ended up getting pussy in my 20's and that really turned shit around for me
Can you elaborate anon?
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>>206525914
The appeal is that I get to cram my cock down a face-cunt. I don't really think (or care) about how the hole is feeling.
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>>206513114
>movie then
>turning someone into a tranny faggot is the worst punishment you could inflict
>reality now
>being a tranny faggot is encouraged by society and tranny grooming gangs run rampant everywhere on the Internet from Discord to 4chan
Times change huh
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>>206525984
I got a girlfriend when I turned 20 and started actually getting laid.
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>>206526021
I volunteer
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>>206526025
That movies not even 15 years old anon
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>>206525904
funny you say that, I got pussy at 17, and I distinctly remember not liking it all that much and finding it overrated, so much so, that my interest and desire for sex completely died then and there. it's not that it was a "bad" experience, it's that it wasn't worth how much fucking effort it takes to get retarded teenage girls that protect their pussy like it's a temple, to open up.
so I don't think pussy is the problem. and it's not like I stopped getting attention from women after that, infact just like a month ago, I got messaged by some girls I knew in highschool again and I just lost interest. I don't care about that shit anymore, so overrated, so unfulfilling, the amount of masks I had to wear to appeal to women needs to stay buried. never again. it kills my soul
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>>206517399
""" Conservatives"""" never conserved anything, they're just a more timid branch of liberals. What I'm excited for is the growing undercurrent of illiberal ideologies and traditions, the kind of people who use LGBTQ faggots to make flight test from rooftops.
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>>206526162
Trannies are halal according to both shia and sunni clerics just fyi
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>>206526050
How did it change your life though, “turn shit around”
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baaaaaby shark doo doo doo doo doo baaaaaby shark doo doo doo doo doo baaaaaby shark doo doo doo doo doo baaaaaby shark!
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>>206525839
It's a literal tranny movie. You shouldn't of expected anything else
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>>206517422
You know what? Would, and it's not even gay
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>>206519767
LAY OFF THE PORN AND START EXERCISING
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>>206523584
The hormones won't change your male looking face and skeleton structure. The trans stuff is just a pipedream, only 1% pass.
>My libido's already pretty low
Sounds like you just have low testosterone. You need to fix your diet, eat less processed slop, get better sleep, get more sun, exercise, etc
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>>206525943
Mucho texto
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>>206519297
>they want to divide us
>the only way to solve this is by voting for MY side
Okay... Why don't we all unite on my side instead?
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>>206527990
>You need to fix your diet, eat less processed slop, get better sleep, get more sun, exercise, etc
Most of my meals are home made, I exercise everyday, and most nights I get a decent amount of sleep. Can't get much sun right now since it's winter now but the tranny thoughts were getting really bad in the summer when I was taking regular walks.

Seemingly every 'cure' anons have for trooning out I'm either already doing or am avoiding (like porn)
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>>206530115
Ignore these retards. You'd be surprised how many fucking transition time lines I've seen of fit dudes who went to the gym, turning into some feminine twitter white girl.
As much as I have my criticisms for the trans community. 90% of anti trans retards are literally delusional. And need to literally contort reality to suit their biases.
None of this shit has anything to do with "health" or "fitness". There are hundreds of fit dudes who still transitioned. Hundreds of dudes who used to be hot that transitioned. If that doesn't tell you that this shit goes deeper than ones superficial surface level impression, then I don't know what does. I don't care if you assign it to mental illness or social contagion. The point is, being trans is more than just the food you eat or how much you weigh
I don't know what your original point was that he was responding to, but anybody who tells you to just "go outside" or "go to the gym" is a retard that cannot deal with the fact that reality is complex, and needs to cope by reducing it to simplistic routines and "tactics" like life is a videogame where if you just max the right stat, you win.
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>>206521257
Which one of your male relatives molested you?
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>>206528404
>sides
You're playing their game. Surely Trump is better than Biden.
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>>206530612
My father was barely around in my life. No I'm not black.
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>>206530587
There's tranny chemicals in the water and all around us. Plastic is estrogen. And girls on birth control pills are literally peeing it out.
We are literally being poisoned, this shit didn't happen a few decades ago.
The propaganda is also kicking in to normalize and brainwash people into it. The nazis burned the tranny books in the 30's, when they first tried to introduce it. Alas they are not around anymore. But soon it's the 30's again, so who will know.
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>>206531005
Huh oh, did the neighbor "babysit" you when your mother wasn't around?
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I'm pretty convinced that transexuality is the inevitable late-stage result of the human race. It makes sense that as labor-intensive work becomes increasingly automated and women become increasingly hypergamistic, the gender balance will naturally come to reflect the new needs of society.

The truth is that right now any country that isn't at war doesn't need half the population to be disposable, miserable men. They're better off with those "men" being placated trannies whose HRT keeps them calm enough to not shoot up schools or workplaces.
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>>206531188
You're partially right, but seeing it from the wrong perspective. The reason for such anti homosexuality/queer behavior, anti masturbation, and pro 2 gender thought is rooted in conflict culture. It's the reason the Bible is so heavyset on such things - they needed every biological resource possible for defense. Those rules are designed for population growth with the expectation that overpopulation isn't a risk due to the greater risk of death due to external factors (like enemies).
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>>206531188
>the gender balance will naturally come to reflect the new needs of society.
Of a depraved society that considers people as expendables mindless consoomers, wait that's all the liberal countries lmao
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>>206531108
>We are literally being poisoned, this shit didn't happen a few decades ago.
Trannies have been around in the US for a while (an example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen) and there are all kinds of trans/third genders that exist or have existed in other cultures throughout history. Just because it's new to you doesn't mean it's actually new.
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>>206516202
that ""tradition"" is almost exclusively an east coast thing these days, and it's been on the downturn for decades. the jew is losing
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>>206531347
Exactly. Right now the only reason people are flipping out about it because if they do they won't sit back and think why did Biden and Trump rely so heavily of Jewish funding and place billionaires in such key positions. Why Elon Musk made a windfall from Trump's election and even now is trying to bleed money from healthcare and social security to fund Space-X.
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>>206531347
Yes this is completely comparable to the current tranny LGBTQ epidemic, sure.
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>>206531481
>epidemic
lol yes
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>>206531347
Just because it isn't new doesn't mean it isn't insane and sick.
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>>206531639
>Just because it isn't new doesn't mean it isn't insane and sick.
But why?
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>>206531347
>Jorgensen intended to go to Sweden, where the only doctors worldwide who performed the surgery were located.
Nordics are as vile as Jews and I hope they go extinct.
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>>206531693
What is your opinion on folks like Alex Jones, Gavin McInness, and Tucker Carlson being sexually attracted to trannies?
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>>206531770
>liberal pundits approve of liberal degeneracy
You don't say.
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>>206531347
Lmao, local TERF here to shit on your day. People transitioning was incredibly rare even in the period where you could take manmade hormones and perform surgeries and stuff. It was only once it became a social epidemic like anorexia or cutting that it started mattering.

Also third genders were basically ancient society's way of shunning gay/feminine men out of their gender role. The thought was that if they acted like this, there was no way they were actually "male", they had to be some kind of female instead. Do you really, seriously think that the heavily patriarchal societies of history's past would also somehow be progressive enough to accept trannies?

If they did believe there was a real "third gender", why wasn't there a role for women who thought they were men? Why is it the only example where women could societally be treated and accepted as biological men comes from the Catalonas, where families could force their oldest daughter to remain a virgin and be treated as male for the purpose of representing their family?
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>>206531827
Especially the bad ones.
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>>206531188
This is all stupid on multiple levels for multiple reasons. Even if we assume that because of the way human beings exist now that the gender balance would be fucked for whatever retarded arbitrary reason.
First of all, women are literally the majority gender. There's no need for more women. Women also live longer. So if society should "balance out" in anyway, there should be more trans men to fill in for the men that will naturally die off.
Next. This makes no sense since trans people don't fulfill the primary biological function of a woman: Giving birth.
So there's literally no point to trans people societally speaking.
The reality is that, existence, life. Is random and arbitrary, it is literally built into "life" to do random shit sometimes just to see if it works (mutations).
When we like those mutations, we call them advantages (being 6'7 for the NBA or something) When we don't like those mutations, we call them defects, disorders, or syndromes.
Thats all. I'm making the argument not because I hate trans people, I'm doing so because of the retarded anti-tranners that will freak the fuck out at you. I represent neutrality.
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>>206531853
I'm sorry you grew up never reading anything other than newspaper comics
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>>206531975
Comics are a visual medium, if you need to plaster every pages of a comic with a short novella worth of dialogues and exposition then it's a bad comic.
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>>206532048
You obviously don't have much experience with comics as a medium if you think it's as simple as words=bad especially for a sub genre like webcomics where condensing information is even more important.
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was cool of pedro to bring my fetish to life like this
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>>206531818
>It was only once it became a social epidemic like anorexia or cutting that it started mattering.
It's still rare today considering only about .5% of any given population is trans. The only reason it's a "social epidemic" is because it's constantly plastered all over the news.

>Do you really, seriously think that the heavily patriarchal societies of history's past would also somehow be progressive enough to accept trannies?
It has nothing to do with them being "progressive" these societies had an entirely different view of the world. And there's no reason to think that examples of third genders are just gay guys being forced into women when there are examples from societies where both third genders and openly gay men existed like the Galli in the Greco-Roman era.
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>>206519135
>brain damaged magatroon starts drifting off
bassssssed
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>>206532343
As of 2023, 25% of HS students in America identify as LGBTQ, if you believe this is a genuine sentiment and not the fruit of constant propaganda by quasi-totalitarian lobbies of faggots then I have a bridge on the moon to sell you.
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>>206532528
>As of 2023, 25% of HS students in America identify as LGBTQ
And 20% of those are girls who identify as bi because they thought about making out with their friend once or they larp as some gender they made up themselves without doing anything at all to change their outward appearance.
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>>206532343
Yes I'm sure the huge jump in teens and adults requesting surgeries/blockers/hormones over the past few years as well as the push to remove sex restrictions from everything is nothing more than a moral panic, I suppose by that measure the increasing presence of incels on the internet is also a moral panic since men have always been lonely?

Yeah, by "entirely different view" they had the viewpoint that femininity and masculinity were separate circles defined by sex, so people who stepped out of those circles were "not their sex", it wasn't about whether or not *you* personally identified as being a woman/man.

Greek society in particular fucking hated women and explicitly viewed submissive gay men as inferior, while dominant gay men were fine.
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>>206532528
>source: Dude, trust Rogan
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>>206532711
It is a moral panic. It's the same as boomers being convinced teens in the 80s were summoning their Jewish anti God by killing cats and playing D&D.
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>>206532781
>mutilating children with hormones and surgery is the same as a handful of soccer moms getting mad at a heavy metal concert
This is why no one likes you.
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>>206532827
>mutilated
How so?
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>>206532860
Do you believe HRT is some innocuous treatment? I won't comment on you believing that literal castration is fine.
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>>206532916
Obviously you do. The question is, why do you believe so?
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>>206532781
People were worried about faggots affiliated with various cults kidnapping kids and abusing them in fucked up ritials back then. All the shit about le D&D and heavy metal was a psyop designed to distract from those 100% justifiable concerns and paint anyone asking questions about it as a bible thumping loon. It came out decades later that the Finders cult was a CIA front crawling with glowniggers and there was actually some substance to the McMartin preschool allegations. Who knows how much shit like that was going on that never came to light.
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>>206532048
It's all about intent and utility, narrative driven comics need words and often a great deal of them. Wordswordswords only applies to situations where the author is obviously using more words than they need. Human conversations and internal monologs, even when kept short, require lots of text that in turn require space. It's just a fact of the medium.
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>>206532711
First of all, why are you complaining about removing sex restrictions if you identify as a feminist? Wasn't that half the point of feminism to begin with? Second yeah, those are both moral panics, by any measure a small minority of people are actually going through with trooning out. Some of them are dumb enough to be doing it because they're just hopping on a trend but those people would make dumb decisions no matter what they did.

>so people who stepped out of those circles were "not their sex"
And people who have gender dysphoria often have a hard time fitting into their birth sex, and I don't think anyone should troon out unless they have gender dysphoria. Btw, gender dysphoria doesn't just mean you "identify as a man/woman" it's a disorder that causes a mismatch between your brain and body that can cause extreme psychological suffering.
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>>206519958
>The trooned guy retains his sanity by basically constantly saying YWNBAW to himself but pretends to be submissive so he can get a chance to kill the scientist and free himself
yes I remember that part
>Also at some point the trooned guy is raped by some criminal who breaks into the scientist's house
she uses this to escape If I remember correctly
I didnt remember him turning the guy into his wife, hmm thanks for explanation
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>>206533138
And thus it's hard to believe people doing the same thing now while the wealth of the 1% keeps increasing and people can't afford houses or to buy groceries.
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>>206533138
Most people don't know about the very real Finders, the 80s moral panic argument is the LGBTQ way to dismiss or ridicule valid concerns while they operate on children, they're basically the Finders now.
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>>206533341
How so?
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>>206533371
Like this
>>206533155
>>206532781
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>>206533371
How does that make the gays the Finders now?
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>>206532528
>As of 2023, 25% of HS students in America identify as LGBTQ
Sure thing, Alenka.
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>>206533452
Right? Sounds like some made up shit from a boomer Facebook post that ends in 'God is Love!'
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>>206533452
>>206533492
I know both of you are probably homosexuals and not arguing in good faith but you could just google the headline and peruse the sources at your leisure. Explicitly faggot digital outlets think this is cool and a win btw.
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>>206533605
Sorry to tell you anon but it looks like >>206532697 is right. Most of that is just girls larping and probably about 5% is actually made up of actual homotrannies
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>>206533949
>AI
lol
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>>206533949
Oh no, didn't they realize Jews don't like homosexuals?
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>>206533949
>CDC lied to you about COVID and Vaccines
>telling the truth about this tho
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>>206534042
No one likes homosexuals though, even the people who hate Jews.
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>>206533949
I agree with this >>206534016 anon. But even if we assume everything the AI is saying is true...that 25% number is incredibly misleading. "Bisexual" is the safest fucking letter in LGBT, and id wager that at least half of the people who identify as BI haven't even touched the opposite sex, or same sex. They might as well be "questioning" which is also not fucking valid the fuck? Questioning isn't a sexuality it's literally a question mark until you figure your shit out. Gay and Lesbian are about where I'd expect them to be, honestly I'm surprised they're that small. Trans no where to be seen of course because it's one of the rarest fucking things, with the most extremely mentally ill people too. Have to reiterate that I'm not anti trans, I just have to shut this shit down because it fuels the mentally retarded anti trans sentiment and narratives.
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>>206534016
>>206534042
>>206534077
>THE STATS SAY EVERYONE IS TROONING OUT!!!! SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!!
>Also the stats are lying apparently
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>>206534204
So you are fine with the CDC's guidance on lockdowns and vaccines?
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>>206533949
Exactly, the incredible social pressure exerted by faggots and LGBTQ lobbies is what we're seeing here, I don't think people would actually turn gay unless they were molested as children or bizarre fetishists.
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>>206534323
>think
k, keep us posted
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>>206534284
So you were fine with pushing that stat until it came from a source you don't like?

>I don't think people would actually turn gay unless they were molested as children or bizarre fetishists.
You don't 'turn' gay fucking retard
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>>206534204
Remember that most homosexuals are malignant narcissists, lying and dissembling is par for the course with them.
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>>206534410
>answering a question with a question
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>>206534410
>You don't 'turn' gay
Yes you do, it was widely accepted that homosexuality was spread through child molestation before they shut it down.
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>>206534413
>Remember that most homosexuals are malignant narcissists, lying and dissembling is par for the course with them.
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>>206534413
Just like these ebin based Nazirinos
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>>206513114
Disgusting filth.
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>>206534472
And bloodletting was a good routine of self care.
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>>206534552
>and my strawman was blablabla
Just stop, homosexuals are victims but they needn't be the aggressor as well.
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This thread has become boring and dishonest. I almost miss when the sad anon was blog posting about not wanting to be trans, at least it sounded more human, and not like somebody sicked different AI bot armies on each other that each represent the other side to endlessly argue amongst one another never really trying to make an argument, only seeking to prove or establish their bias.
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>>206534621
How is it a strawman, you used outdated medical opinions as your argument, which was silly.
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>>206535068
>I miss when the thread was fully on board with LGBTQ support and no one had a dissenting opinion
How unsurprising.
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>>206535121
There were people screeching "tranny" from the literal first post you fucking retard. I have no idea what the fuck you think you're talking about because you clearly don't understand my point.
Wait...I'm arguing with an AI bot aren't I?
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>>206535345
The first post was deleted and it's someone crying about republicans you disingenuous faggot
>b-bot
Here's that textbook LGBTQ dehumanization of anyone who disagrees with you, even the soviets have nothing on you when it comes to suppressing dissent.
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>>206535068
Still more interesting than the /mtf/ general.
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>>206536223
nta, original anon that was sad posting about not being trans and...yeah /lgbt/ is a hellhole for all the reasons I listed, and one of the few boards I've mentally blacklisted. never again, it's a completely different thing to argue against people who are supposed to support you and make you feel less insane...and somehow they always have the moral high ground against you when they dogpile you for any disagreement, or for being too atypical for them
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>>206513114
If trannies actually looked like that I'd be 100% into them.

Unfortunately they're all hideous freaks in real life. Even the good looking ones you guys spam are just using favourable angles and face apps.
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>>206513114
does banderas cut her dick?
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>>206536488
>well if you gave hormones to toddlers they would be indistinguishable from real women when they grew up!
tranny groomer argument
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>>206536379
The only reason I ever went to that board was for /mtf/, and I dislike that general mostly because everyone there seems so bland and lifeless somehow. They're a bunch of 18-20 year olds that don't actually want to talk about the subject matter, and all they care about are the regulars they can gossip about. But I'm in a sort of similar situation where the TG community wouldn't like me because I've admitted I don't "feel like a woman" (and honestly have no idea what that means), and based on what I've seen of them, I don't want to be associated with them anyway. I just want to look like a girl, that's all.
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>>206532343
>It's still rare today considering only about .5% of any given population is trans. The only reason it's a "social epidemic" is because it's constantly plastered all over the news.
Weird how all these celebrities like Liev Schreiber, Cher, Brad Pitt, Cynthia Nixon, Jamie Lee Curtis, Charlize Theron, and Elon Musk all have trans kids despite it being so rare. This is definitely not a social epidemic
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>>206530587
>I don't know what your original point was that he was responding to, but anybody who tells you to just "go outside" or "go to the gym" is a retard that cannot deal with the fact that reality is complex, and needs to cope by reducing it to simplistic routines and "tactics" like life is a videogame where if you just max the right stat, you win.
He told me his libido was shit so I recommended fixing his T levels, fucking relax.
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>>206517297
>All you had to do was not act like an abused child who finally gets a scrap of child
but piotr i am impossible
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>>206536836
yes, felt like 9/11 again
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>>206516225
Google the Movie starring Antonio Banderas and featuring Context Clues like trans

>idk either you can highlight what I said tho and search.
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>>206517820
Sorry, bro. Not even the best surgeon on earth can make you passable, let alone a woman.
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>>206515022
Based on what?
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>>206521257
It's normal to have a gay phase before puberty. Not everyone necessarily but it's common enough that Freud wrote about it and called it latent homosexuality. People don't talk about it because if you're straight it's embarrassing. My memories are pretty vivid though and I remember a few kids grabbing each other's dicks all the time. This even happens in college. "identifying" as female falls under this category.
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>>206523584
>My libido's already pretty low
Ding ding ding. What other anon said this is low testosterone. Do whatever you can to increase it: diet, sports, lifting, fresh air, sleep, sunlight, vitamin d supplements, protein.

And consider how life ruining a transition would be, versus possibly some trt treatment and being a better and less depressed version of yourself.

If you start lifting now but retain some feminine features, women will be throwing themselves at you. You also won't age as fast and you keep your hair.

>t. 40 year old low T king who lifts. You sound just like me at that age and thank God I escaped all the bullshit, learned to accept my body and my differences, use them to my advantage, and still keep my penis.

The biggest problem with low to normal T is that if you don't stay on top of your working out and cardio, you get depressed and crazy really quick. A slight dip vs a slight boost at low levels is a huge percentage difference and it really does fuck with your head.
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>>206528113
You're here forever. Welcome.
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>>206517395
No, it's why we crushed you. Your attempts to retcon getting crushed into something else won't work. Fuentes lost.
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>>206513114
you finally get a forced fem mainstream movie and its a male dom. fuck hollywood they can't even do porn right.
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>>206541827
The us will be minority white by 2035.
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>>206543161
Based!!!!
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>>206525124
That's not a tranny though?
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>>206539585
skimming through these naval gazing text walls it literally does sound like low T is the issue
the insecurity with your body, not wanting to grow up, not having good masculine role models, fear of "turning old"/growing hair/going bald, the endless self-examination etc
it all results in the fetishization of femininity, you cant attract a women because your not ready to grow up as a man, so you either think u want to become a woman or/and you despise/denigrate women - its all a self-sabotaging catch 22
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>>206539333
I know exactly what you're talking about regarding "gay phase" like exactly what you're talking, but I just disagree. You're completely wrong. That's a completely seperate thing from the experiences I mentioned regarding putting on a girl voice to pretend to be a totally spy pre 10 years old, or wearing a bra and pretending to have tits whenever mom wasn't home.
You just don't know what that feels like if you haven't experienced it. My pre-puberty "gay phase" was some retard asking to see my dick in the bathroom and me showing it to them which led to some other stuff that I won't mention, and then dealing with that shame. The shit about putting on a bra or wearing high heels was just different, I don't know how else to explain it other than its closer to being wrapped in a warm blanket in the winter, it envelopes you and feels safe.
Not to mention that the "gay phase" I'm talking about happened when I had an awareness of sex and masturbation, all the trans related shit I mention happened before I even ever masturbated. They're just completely disconnected "phases" if I'm to believe the trans one is a phase that's still haunting me.
I don't know though, you could be write since I do actually remember one kid in school admitting to wearing his moms bra and heels too, but I don't know if he treated it like a ritual, the same way I would (not daily, it was on and off but like a special occasion every time)
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>>206533452
Are you the same retard that posts about Ivans and raidings? Are Russians also to blame for niggers?
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>>206519767
>>206523533
>MUH KPOP
You are a clique-y retard yourself. Jesus, the inane wall of text you wrote just illustrate hows infantile your are. And how old are you? 30?
You aren't "complicated", you are a stupid failure.
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>>206545025
>the insecurity with your body, not wanting to grow up, not having good masculine role models

I'll agree with all of this on principle, because I do remember hating being skinny as a child, or wanting to stay 10 years old forever, and I'm not going to comment on the last one but...
>you cant attract a women because your not ready to grow up as a man, so you either think u want to become a woman or/and you despise/denigrate women - its all a self-sabotaging catch 22

This is just completely wrong. It's so weird how you guys make some assumptions that are right, but others that are just widely wrong, almost like you don't actually understand remotely what you're talking about or can't even comprehend the experience so you're just shooting into the dark about male related problems that you think could possibly explain almost any dysfunction, or disorder.

I had my first girlfriend when I was 12, most of you losers cry about not having had any until you were like 30. I've seen you losers. Yes, I was insecure as fuck, but for some reason, whenever I left the context of school, at parties or holiday gatherings, or camp, I could easily talk to girls and whatnot.
I've also had sex already too, which I mentioned (not the same girl I got at 12) I can't confirm or deny anything regarding "low T" since I'm not Ill enough to obsess over that, but I'll say that first of all low T doesn't mean anything scientifically. It's about ranges, you can be on the lower end of the range and still healthy. It's whether you have certain symptoms of T imbalance that matter.
You guys are dumb and not helpful, it doesn't feel good to have your feelings dismissed due to some assumption of uncontrollable qualities that aren't even necessarily true.
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>>206513114
is this film secretly super red pilled?
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Is this pro or anti trans? I won’t watch pro trans shit I still haven’t watched Arcane and any of Michael Obama’s speeches
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This whole entire thread is homosexual
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>>206515022
Cute lesbo.
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>>206545316
You should look for a therapist that rightfully recognizes homosexuality and transgenderism as a mental illness and hasn't succumbed to the modern liberal doxa on this matter and see what they could for you, I don't understand why you expect to get an adequate mental health diagnosis and treatment from a thread on /tv/ of all things.
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>>206545316
I wrote that I merely skimmed your text wall, which was just one of many similar ones in this thread
its all just spur of the moment, stream of consciousness, reading energy flows/between the lines
Im not here to give anyone tailor-made psychological advice
why does it matter if you had a gf? married men can still be meek virgin-energy failed-normie pushovers who never figured any of this out
I could now read alot into why you are being so defensive and why you would think you deserve anyone's close attention in this of all places - no one here cares about you or your feelings, we are a pattern recognition & solution aggregation machine, that creates alot of noise, but sometimes hits the nail right on the head
and then you either open yourself up to that nugget of raw painful truth or you rationalize it away with some arbitrary excuse and continue to stay stuck
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this movie is literally my dream scenario. i want to be a girl so bad.
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>>206546529
/lit/ failed writers are the most pretentious and useless fags on this site, they'd give a serious run for their money to /lgbt/ in the sucking your own dick while sniffing your farts contest.
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>>206517422
I had a deep voice when I was 12, this faggot was never gonna make it regardless
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>I don't understand why you expect to get an adequate mental health diagnosis and treatment from a thread on /tv/ of all things.

Wasn't expecting anything. I rarely post in here, let alone blogpost. It's a unique movie premise, and one that caught my eye, so I felt like ranting.
Sometimes it feels like you retards are bots with the way you question very human behaviours "why would you talk about your feelings in a social setting and not just exclusively talk to a therapist???? what are you? human? *Does not compute*"

You guys are really frustrating. Really hate that this is my only option for social media, if I don't like leftwing brainrot. You're all equally as retarded.>>206546529
>why does it matter if you had a gf? married men can still be meek virgin-energy failed-normie pushovers who never figured any of this out

You're mentally challenged. What does it feel like to not be human? What does it feel like to have zero self awareness whatsoever? Half of your point hinged on the presumption that "you can't attract a woman therefore etc etc." And then when I tell you not just that I had a girlfriend, but at a young age (since there are many losers who cry about going their entire childhood with no female interaction, which is more objectively indicative of virginity, even if they have sex in their 20s or 30s) So then you shift the goalposts and suddenly is "why does it matter you had a gf?" you're a joke. A retard. Just don't reply if you're literally incapable of human experience, I wasn't ranting in hopes of appealing to people like you. You know nothing of human experience.
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>>206546567
Hello, beautiful :)
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>>206513114
euro milfs have a very sleazy vibe to them that i dont see in american milfs
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wtf is going on here? Raid?
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>>206547666
You should kill yourself.
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I wish I could get an attractive trans girlfriend. If you open up to a girl she will look at you with contempt and I'm tired of pretending to be a cold man, the silent type. I'm very sensitive and would love to open up to my partner. I've had a lot of girlfriends and I've finally understood only females that were males in the past are able to love a man like me. And I wouldn't mind to play with that little extra, the toy from the happy meal
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>>206547707
You know she is Spanish, right? She is latinx, not european
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>>206547756
I think you should commit suicide instead. No one will mind that much
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>>206547756
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>>206513114
Sadly, medical transition is nowhere this good IRL.
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>>206545316
Having a girlfriend at 12 doesn’t count you fucking idiot. Everyone had 5 minute/5 week girlfriends in elementary and junior high
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>>206547666
You have a really hard time quoting other posts and formatting yours in a coherent manner for some reason, I suggested you look for a therapist to treat your homosexuals/transgender compulsions because this place is full of unhelpful trolls at best and LGBTQ groomers at worst, but if the only thing you're looking for is to blogpost while wallowing in your self-pity then be my guest.
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>>206524150
You sound like a friend of mines ex-husband, all he did all day was play video games and cross-dress

You’re not complicated or interesting at all, you’re just a limp wristed faggot. I bet you play female characters exclusively in RPGs
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>You have a really hard time quoting other posts and formatting yours in a coherent manner for some reason, I suggested you look for a therapist to treat your homosexuals/transgender compulsions because this place is full of unhelpful trolls at best and LGBTQ groomers at worst

You're literally not human. You literally do not have self awareness. You cannot engage with the substance of human expression and text. Like a bot, you superficially can only comprehend the surface level text, and that's why like an AI, if guarantee if I were to plug in the exact same thing you initially replied to. I would get the exact same mindless "I suggest you look for a therapist" response. Because you don't actually understand how human beings experience the world.

I think the scariest thing about AI, is how much it highlights the very robotic, predictive, superficial aspect of human beings. If I were to ask someone like you "How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast" I'd get "Like I should go eat" because you don't think like a human. Because for humans, experience is more important than function.
You probably don't understand that analogy because you're a bit. The existence of AI simply normalizes botted behaviour. It doesn't matter how unnatural it looks, it is close enough for enough people.

This is my rage against the machine
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>>206548685
We are all bots here…
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>>206548685
Damn you're one obnoxious solipsistic faggot, you're really the living proof that homosexuality is a mental illness.
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wtf is this movie /tv/ you fooled me into watching cheap porn on the Lord's day :(
honestly though lots of rape and missionary in this movie
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>>206522098
All the stuff you mentioned was considered fairly developmentally normal up until the 2010s.
We naturally look for patterns to explain our current mental state. They don't necessarily mean anything
>I used a magnifying glass to burn bugs as a kid
>I ran over NPCs in GTA V as a kid
>Ever since I saw suicide squad I realize I'm DAMAGED and have an ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER
>I'm going to start smoking meth (actually becomes anti-social)

If you had been born 75 years ago, you probably would have never connected playing dress up as a kid with the crazy shit hormones can make you do in puberty. You're probably just telling yourself a story to explain a fetish. If you just live your life and vary your interests, those feelings will probably go away.
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>>206517422
>We have to groom the children as early as possible so they'll turn out FUCKABLE, you chud!
Not beating the groomer allegations.
But you know what, good on you for going mask-off and just admitting straight up that it's about grooming kids to be desirable for your niche perversions. It's already obvious, but it's refreshing that one of you ghouls just says it out loud for once.
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>>206549515
I think the girl in the tiktok brought it up first and she's over 18. did she groom herself? at what point does commenting about an adult's public personas become grooming? is it suddenly unnatural to make comments about others' body images? asking for a friend...
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>>206547687
i wish
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>>206549795
>the girl
Castrated and sterilized male, allowing invasive hormonal treatment for mentally ill children at the onset of puberty to maximize damage and make sure to irreparably stunt their growth and development is systematic grooming and child abuse.
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>>206550001
She seems grown to me, fella. Or do you mean you wish her cock still worked? That's kinda creepy dude.
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>>206550128
Ok tranny.
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>>206550155
We are both pseuds. What a funny life :]
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>>206550172
Whatever you say, soon they won't be enough children for you to abuse in the first world anyway since your lifestyle is inherently sterile.
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>>206513114
Gooners got psy-opped into thinking autogynophilia is based, holy shit, knew the reverse-rape threads were an abomination
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>>206550246
I have cats. Do you wanna see my cats, anon?
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>>206550302
I think Mr. Whiskers here actually kinda liked the movie though. I hope he doesn't report me for grooming >_<
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>>206550302
>>206550353
You gotta love how LGBTQ faggots when pushed into a corner just resort to bizarre non-sequiturs.
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>>206549795
Kids do it because adults teach them to do it. Nobody fucking EVER organically decided that they should take puberty blockers and become a science experiment until horny perverts started proselytizing to kids about it.
At best you can say "Oh, after being physically abused and mentally conditioned to be a perv, they're okay with it now.", but that's still an abnormal and disgusting thing to do to someone.
And what about all the little boys who DON'T want to be groomed into fetish whores by older perverts?
You're a sick fuck. Fucking pervert, pedophile, degenerate fucking freak.
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>>206550474
You want me to divulge my life in how I'm not a child groomer pedophile fucking fetish freak pervert? Given you wouldn't accept the annecdote on purely ideological terms? I'm not that much of a masochist XD but please go on and berate me about fallacies and how I'm not posting in such great ways as to tickle your intellectual fancy. Here's my other cat btw. And you should watch the movie too. It's actually kind of funny. The guy who force femmes/castrates the rapist gets shot in the end.
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>>206550632
>You want me to divulge my life in how I'm not a child groomer pedophile fucking fetish freak pervert?
You don't have to since you're already implied it here >>206549795 when pretending you didn't see why minors taking puberty blockers is obvious grooming for fetishistic reasons.
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>>206550826
Shes 18 now. And hasn't detrans AFAIK. Not very convinced me or she should conceptualize her own explicated formative years as abuse. You can tell me it's not natural or that this desire didn't arise innately but I don't think this is enough to convince her to not take hormones despite their xenogenetic/unnatural origins.
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>>206539585
Did you not read my other post? I already do all that shit. And I've been to therapy and tried to live with the idea that I can just be a guy who retains some feminine features. Tranny thoughts still came back and they've been there since before puberty even.

>>206549432
>All the stuff you mentioned was considered fairly developmentally normal up until the 2010s.
I don't think cross dressing and thoughts of wanting to be the other sex persistently from childhood to adulthood was considered normal 75 years ago.
>>206550474
>Nobody fucking EVER organically decided that they should take puberty blockers and become a science experiment until horny perverts started proselytizing to kids about it.
Dude, there's tons of stories of old school trannies taking their moms estrogen pills or getting them OTC in parts of latin america when they were kids. It becomes so obvious that tards like you don't know what you're talking about the more you speak.
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>>206513114
This movie is really hot
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>>206550966
>I went to a therapist who didn't challenge any of my delusions and just reaffirmed them and I'm still fucked up lmao
We know.
>Third world and morally corrupt shitholes sell medicines off the counter to everyone that means it's good to fill children with hormones to fulfill the lgbtq crowd fetishes
No.
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disgusting fetish movie
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>>206551165
>Here's an example that proves you wrong
>No, no, no! Doesn't count! Doesn't count!
I don't even think giving HRT to kids is necessarily a good thing. I'm just saying it's not the result of some secret cabal of gay pedos or whatever your schizo mind's come up with
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>>206550425
u gotta love randos feeling specially selected 4 the great nomadic basket-weaving jury becoming suddenly fluent in legalese - it's the awesome and powerful missing link before homo erectus
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I have no problems with trannies if they look good and let straight men fuck them.

It's the ugly ones that don't pass, that try to change laws, that chase after real women, I can't stand these ones.
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>>206551291
No one said there was a single faggot illuminati running everything in the shadows, there are multiple LGBTQ lobbies everywhere even in third world countries, while the influence of their counterparts in first world countries aren't limited by borders either, all pushing for cultural change, first with the acceptance and establishment of homosexuals as a political force and now child grooming which is the origin and logical conclusion of homosexuality.
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>>206547768
Spain is in Europe
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>>206551334
This one faggot doesn't have pictures of cats to post so he's just going to do some random drive-by insulting instead.
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>>206534482
Yeah, i believe this is true too.
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>>206524150
>I'm complicated, you're jealous that you're not. Fuck you.
kek, who would be a different person than his brain?
you're depressed, no one is jealous of that
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>>206551957
When you look at older films, villainous characters were often effeminate or flamboyant. It's only a recent development that homosexuals are always morally superior in every movies and tv shows.
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>>206552098
fair. I'll admit I was a bit delusional and heated in that moment, so I said something untrue. you're right, nobody would want to be me, so necessarily nobody would be jealous of me
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>>206551491
>child grooming which is the origin and logical conclusion of homosexuality.
Glad you're worried about child grooming anon. What are you doing to stop the far more prevalent phenomenon of heterosexual child groomers?
>The National Juvenile Online Victimization study (N-Jov) in the US revealed that 99% of
victims of internet initiated sex crimes against minors were aged 13-17 years old; 48% were
aged 13-14 (Wolak, Mitchell and Finkelhor, 2003). The majority of victims are pubertal girls.
>Findings from a nationally representative survey of youth in the US, published in 2000,14
revealed that one in 10 youth received sexual solicitations of a distressing or aggressive
nature; these solicitations were concentrated amongst older youth and 70% were targeted at
young women (Finkelhor et al., 2000).
https://web.archive.org/web/20120526151430/http://www.saferinternet.org.uk/Content/Childnet/Safer-Internet-Centre/downloads/Research_Highlights/Munro_OnlinevulnerabilityReporttoDFE-Final-October2011.pdf
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What's the verdict. Did he actually do anything wrong? Obviously he was irresponsible and dumb. But he couldn't have predicted that she would scream, and he probably didn't want to be branded a rapist, and she DID bite him. He probably should have stopped after this first no, but at the same time, he probably had no fucking idea what was going on, she didn't complain before. She literally said she wishes she could be naked all the time, and he probably interpreted that as her being flirtatious and forward. Just seems like a poor misunderstanding. He definitely should have been more considerate in general, but considering what we see beforehand of all the other guys and girls getting it on. He probably figured that that's just how shit should be going down.
I don't know, what do you guys think? I'm not just asking chuds, also open to perspectives from onions lefties. I want to feel correct about this. Because it's a fairly common trope in gender bender for the punishment of a pervert or rapist to "get a taste" of what it feels like to be a woman, and I've always found that cringe. And whether this movie is contributing to that trope, is dependent on whether he was wrong to act the way he did. I err on the side that he was just dumb and irresponsible. What about you guys?
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>>206552538
Call me back when pajeets spamming every Instagram even depicting something vaguely feminine have established themselves as a political force and have the power to force policies through like LGBTQ feeding hormones to children.
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The trailers and posters ruined the twist. Why would I ever watch this crap?
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>>206552735
Did you even read what year those studies were done you frothing retard? They're from before xitter, faceberg, and instathots were a thing.
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>>206552850
They're also from the UK where you can get a years-long conviction for wrongthink for posting on Facebook.
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>>206552850
2011, Facebook and Twitter were already a thing. Can homosexuals even stop themselves from lying?
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>>206552909
>The National Juvenile Online Victimization study (N-Jov) in the US revealed
>Findings from a nationally representative survey of youth in the US, published in 2000,
>in the US
Holy fucking shit you actually can't fucking read! Please get off the internet and go buy a Hooked on Phonics or something.
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>>206553040
>Wolak, Mitchell and Finkelhor, 2003
>Finkelhor et al., 2000
Do you not know what scholarly citations are? Have you passed the 9th grade?
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>>206553121
There's also multiple citations if not more from after Facebook and Twitter were founded, faggot liar.
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>>206550966
Cross dressing was fairly common 75 years ago.

A very small percentage of the population were 'genuine' trannys in the past in the sense they were willing to be tranny's regardless of social consequences. Their prevalence was relatively stable until fairly recently. Rates have exploded, particularly in young women. It wouldn't be such a big deal if the consequences of trooning out weren't so catastrophic. Infertility, early onset osteoporosis in mtf , early onset heart attacks in ftm.

I'm not necessarily against someone doing the hormones and getting the surgeries after proper gatekeeping. If they are truly determined in their 20s they can do it even if it is just paraphilic sexual hedonism. But in many cases I don't think a person would chose the supposed benefits of transitioning over the many hardships transitioning entails. It's pretty fucked up to take young people and make them into a living sunk cost fallacy where they must stand by the decisions they made in youth because the medical procedures are irreversible. It's even more fucked up to pose treatment as 'if you don't transition, you will commit suicide', when we know that such language actually causes suicidal ideation.
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A Look of Distraught.
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what does it say about me if I'm "supposed" to be trans, and therefore view this movie as wish fulfillment, but instead just felt really bad for Vincente and tried to imagine how fucked the entire experience must have felt. I can't even imagine, the subtle body language during sex everytime and when he had to cuddle with Robert really sold how uncomfortable he was in "his" body. It's not an insanely deep movie, Infact, any of the "deep" topics it could have dabbled on like Norma's mental health, or how important appearances are, weren't dabbled on. But I think that's for the better, it was a focused singular experience about learning to cope with living in another skin Also she did the thing! She did the smoking thing depicted on the famous popular social media site 4chan, on the board /tv/ in thread >>206513114
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>>206547666
ur a hopeless failure u dumb faggot, thx for proving the rule
srsly there is something inherently wrong inside ur brain and you wont be able to fix it
just a faulty mechanism stuck in ignorant projective identification
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>>206555847
nta but there's no need to be mean, they're obviously on track to kill themselves
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>>206513114
So basically he force feminizes the guy who mindbroke his daughter what a beast
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>>206557139
Not exactly force feminized. He doesn't end up particularly feminine. The best way to put it I think is...feminine mannerisms masculine mind. Everything he does looks feminine, but there's a subtle uncomfortableness, or unsureness to every way he moves the body. He definitely tries to play to his strengths as a woman though
Also he didn't mindbreak the daughter, she was already mind broken. I'm still open to debate on whether he actually did anything wrong. But I feel confident enough to say this^
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>>206554633
Why would you view it as wish fulfillment even if you wanted to be a girl? This movie is forced transformation, you want it to be given to you. Totally different circumstances. Imagine there's a dude that hates tacos, and someone keeps forcing him to eat only tacos to the point he starts gagging, and you, who loves tacos, seeing this and thinking, "Man, I really want some of those tacos right now." You can feel bad for the guy who's disgusted by tacos, being forced to eat them while wishing someone would freely give you some. In short, it doesn't say anything about you.
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>>206557589
you know forced feminization is literally a fetish right? besides there are degrees of "forced". even in your taco example, a more analogous example would be being locked up and given tacos as your meal every single day. once you introduce extremities, nothing matters.

for example, if you told a trans person they have to cut off their own penis and cut the hole for a vagina themselves, and that's the only way they could be a woman, most wouldn't find that appealing even because there's another factor that changes things. now instead of a vaginoplasty, you're just cutting and harming your own skin for an outcome that isn't worth the possible side effects.

with your example of the tacos, the "tacos" are no longer "food" if you're literally being forced fed them, then they are in that instance, nothing but a "choking object" do you get it?

anyway the point ultimately is that forced feminization, assuming no insane shit (and assuming you're not so mentally ill that you tell yourself any pain, for the gain is worth it) can be abstracted to be perceived as a "good thing" because you're only looking at the outcome, and so long as there's no visible extreme pain, you're inconsiderate of the fact that something can feel horrible, even without explicit pain.

the best examples of this is solitary confinement.
and of course, kidnapping and being forced to "please" somebody against your will.
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>>206557270
I think you're getting caught up on little details, Vincent was force feminized plain and simple. And yeah the daughter already had mental health problems from seeing her burn victim mother commit suicide right in front of her, but the drugged up Vicente date raping her is what led to her death. Accidental or not it was his fault.



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