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Daily reminder Helen isnt dead, shes still alive and her consciousness lives on in the hive mind (you have to have a very high IQ to understand this)

Previous: >>215867864
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who wants to bet the show writers will do everything in their power to paint Carol in a positive light even tho she is an annoying alcoholic cunt
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Everyone is dead. All 7 billions but 13 individuals are dead.

The person they were before no longer fucking exist. They will never do the things they enjoyed before, they will never take the same decisions as they did than before. They will no longer act according to their beliefs.

Gilligan apparently wanted people to debate if it was a good thing to live in the hivemind. Retard, what the fuck do you mean? It doens't even make sens to talk about a "you" living in them.
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>>215876763
No, she's dead. She died. They said so. Memories aren't consciousness. Also; this show sucks. It's empty.
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This thread is literally sponsored by apple, you are talking to shills, this is a shill thread
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Apple is 100% shilling this show since all their shows have pretty much been failure this is their only thing going to in some time
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>>215876885
Its a metaphor of AI replacing humans. Like when people use chatbots to imitate some historical figure thinking that they would really respond like that.
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>>215876954
the show is ok and the premise is interesting, that said i dont know if they can go anywhere with it, also the MC sucks
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>>215876926
I think it has some meat to go a full season, past it Its a stretch
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Her memories still exist, her consciousness is gone
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Filming of S1 wrapped up around this time. This means S2 is almost done too, right?
Right?
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>>215876763
Lesbian Dom Rhea
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People seem to be struggling with the idea of a single hivemind in that they seem to think a single meat sack has any significance.
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>>215877143
the elephant in the room is why does the hive mind give a single shit about the immune people like carol, much less why they go out of their way to try to make them happy
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>>215877176
>why does the hive mind give a single shit about the immune people like carol
because it's a virus that just wants to mindlessly infect people
>much less why they go out of their way to try to make them happy
because if the immune sperg hard enough out it can kill the infected
this was all explained in the first two episodes
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>>215876990
Yeah, I think that unless they go really bold with It , the show will get stale pretty quickly.
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>the hivemind is polite but bland
>answers your questions but avoids controversy
>treats you nicely to a fault

this show is obviously about AI
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>>215876799
>Protagonist of a story is shown in a good enough light to keep the audience engaged
No way, that'd never happen.
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>>215877338
it was filmed when chatgpt was new and was written YEARS prior to that
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>combined human intelligence organism
>greets carol with several people simultaneously and with a monotone voice even tho she is obviously distressed by the whole hivemind situation

i just cant get over dumb writers trying to write genius characters, its too jarring
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>>215876763
I found the first episode extremely cheesy
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>>215877481
there's no genius character in the show
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dude depression lmao
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>>215876885
he wants you to talk about carol's feelings and shit. she lost her wife, it's very hard. also, collectivism x individualism.
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>>215877536
Yeah but presumably the hive mind is at least as smart as the smartest person on earn
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>>215877609
>getting mad over assumptions you’ve made that aren’t being validated
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>im a white american lesbian,let me tell you why you are wrong!

who the fuck is the target audience for this!?
WHO!?
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inb4 season one ends with a flashback of Carol in the aiplane which then zooms out to a new character watching the airplane and then proceeds to return to their underground hideout where lots of other non/-infected people live
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>Helen isnt dead, shes still alive and her consciousness lives on in the hive mind
why didnt they take her biggest doppelganger of the 8 billion people on earth and just pretend she never died to carol?
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>>215877609
it still outer world virus processing the information in alien way.
wouldn't be surprised if rest of the season is carol trying to teach it through pirate gal what it means to be human and hilarious situations happen
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>>215876763
> zombies but they’re nice
I did not see that coming. BRABOBINCE
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Maybe it's just me but so far this show feels like a tryhard version of the Good Place
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>>215877645
<- The character in question
Season ends with:
>stop poking the hive... bitch
Fade to black
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>>215877586
He clearly wants to depict the hivemind as a positive alternative
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9Zuoh7JmcCg
which it is not. The hivemind is not a path, it's the end of the line. He has no idea what he is talking about.

Also Vince :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqBBJdete4Q
>I don't know if this will work
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>>215877652
How? Carol saw Helen die and pretty much never let her body out of sight until she buried her in the backyard.
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>>215876763
> Daily reminder Helen isnt dead, shes still alive and her consciousness lives on in the hive mind (you have to have a very high IQ to understand this)
Isn’t this basically what happens in James Cameron’s avatar? Where the Navi live in some sort of heaven hive mind but at least jimbo gave the aliens retarded USB tails to connect to the hivemind, but Bravo Vince uses magic WiFi???
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>>215876954
yeah, its pretty sus people on /tv/ are discussing a tv show
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>>215876975
Severance & Silo are also pretty popular Apple TV+ shows
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>>215876983
>Its a metaphor of AI
this is being spammed all over social media, I assume Vince now realizes he made a mistake not being MUCH MUCH more obvious about it and has just written a show about a mildly retarded hivemind god interacting with a small group of midwits.
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>>215877731
Then season 2 reveals Cranston is their leader
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>>215877176
>much less why they go out of their way to try to make them happy
They can pick on suffering and can cause them trauma like Carol does, so making free folk around them be happy is a survival mechanism
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>>215877026
>>215876763
>>215877652
But where are her memories stored?
> inb4 another person
Then where is that persons memories stored?
In James Cameron’s Avatar, the memories of all the dead are in magic trees. At least that makes sense. Vince?
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>>215877372
Rewrites happen, you know
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>the world ended and the only other organisms alive are 12 people and a hivemind that operates on logic you can't understand
>time to drink copiously and lecture them on how evil they are
>millions must die
>fantasize about saving the world like they do in hollyjew movies
>this makes me le epic warrior of the west
do you guys hear how retarded you sound
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>>215877269
>Yes, you are ALL wrong.
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>>215877609
>>215877630
>>215877695
the problem is that no character is even trying to think about the inconsistencies. they had a perfect chance in episode 2 with the uninfected getting to have a private discussion, where they could have speculated about the hivemind's goals and characteristics, but its completely wasted. no character appears to form theories about the hivemind at all, Carol just reacts to things she's told and everyone else mindlessly accepts the situation.
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>>215877880
every single character in the show is dumb, just in different ways. there is no one to get behind.
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>>215877752
hivemind could just say fuck it, dig up the body and hide it while she was at her lil g11 summit with other non infected in ep2 and then when she arrives back home, wallah theres 'new helen' appears and carol wont have an explanation
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>>215877810

the moment i saw on X all picking up the same words of vince shitting all over AI just a day after the show was released is when it became obvious they want to be the narrative around this show
anyone who thinks this show is not in anti AI is on crack cocaine
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>>215877536
The hive is the genius character
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>>215877739
the hivemind is pretty clearly an allegory to collectivism and you shouldn't look much further than that
like other anons have said, the characters in the show from more collectivist societies are less freaked out by the idea than carol, who's a lesbian from a hyper-individualist society. it's almost too obvious.
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>>215877917
The black gentleman is at least making the best of the situation and showing actual interest in understanding the rules the hivemind operates on. The other survivors just want to play house and wait for the world to end. It's literally just Carol having delusional fantasies and absolutely no plan while the hivemind torments her over her dead wife.
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>other non-affected people adjusting to the situation and living a comfy live
>nooo how dare you, we HAVE to make this about ME
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>>215877938
please take your Thorazine/Risperdal and stop spamming here
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>>215877952
>showing actual interest in understanding the rules the hivemind operates on

really? when?
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>>215877880
Difference is evil.

How can the hivemind truly understand the value of an individual life when it is too big to kill? What kind of empathy does it truly have when it has so little regard for its drones being sex slaves?

The hivemind motives are unpredictible and unrelatable as our motives are to it, therefore it is dangerous.

There is no debate.
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>>215878042
he at least asked them if they would cook an animal he killed. it was also implied that the other survivors had conversations about the nature of the hivemind.
>>215878051
and Carol is one retarded woman and the hivemind controls everything. you have to at least have some sort of plan and figure out their rules instead of perma sperging every chance you get.
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>>215877951
Yes. He clearly has no idea of the tools he was using for this demonstration. And to think he worked on X-Files. How pathetic.
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>>215877930
She would have to be the worlds biggest retard to fall for that once she knows about the virus.
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>>215878078
Ofc Carol is a retard. She couldn't find the words to explain why the hivemind is bad in regard to her individualist culture. She couldn't even explain it to the a little girl. And she is supposes to be a writer?
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>>215878078
>he wanted to eat meat
him only caring about his own comfort is his single character trait, that's not what I meant.

by making Carol the main character and having her wife die immediately and her blame the hivemind, the show positions us to see the hivemind as bad. so all the characters failing to treat it as a threat to at least be investigated disconnects the story from its own setup. it doesn't prime us to see it as a metaphor for AI either.
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how does the hivemind reproduction works once every human is HIVED?
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>>215878162
do you know how to read anon? to achieve his goal (his comfort) he is actively investigating the rules of the new entity that controls the world. while carol has greater clothes and way less interest in understanding anything.
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>free healthcare and education for everyone?no crime and no racism?nooooooooo stop this now!!!!!!!

carol is the villain of the show
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>>215878185
They'll probably just shoot space signals from earth to reach some other places
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Imagine the awful passionless frumpy middle-aged lesbian sex between Carol and Helen
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>>215878318
Was probably pretty good 10 years ago for them
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>>215877777
Nice quints
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>>215878288
>there's no more crime
Rather there's no more criminals. They are all dead. Lobotomized at best.
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>>215876885
Well, yeah, the story is post-apocalyptic. Humanity has been wiped out and the focus of the story is now basically about how the handful of survivors choose to cope with that. It's like any story about a zombie apocalypse - do you keep going, try to survive and live and find others like you? Or do you just blow your brains out?
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>get me 10 supermodels in my room in 5 minutes
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>>215878666
we shall name him
>coomba
bravo vince
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>>215876975
For All Mankind is a big hit
Apple TV is kinda based ngl, hate that company but they are far more kino that n*tflix or Prime for originals.
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>>215877930
I keep seeing this theory about the hivemind pretending to be a non-infected. So, how would the hivemind spy act angry? Could the spy eat meat? Kill animals?

If Vince ever wants to introduce a spy he either has to contradict the rules he established earlier or say this was a lie all along. The 11 millions dead, the vegan speech, etc... which requires talent as a writer that he clearly has not. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many questions about the plot holes, the worldbuilding the very definition of what this show is about : a metaphor, a drama, a SF show?
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>>215876763
Why does no one ask all the conspiracy theory questions that can be answered?
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>>215878301
>>215878185
I meant the mechanics of intercourse between themselves. humans have a limited lifespan so they must effectively fuck themselves at some point.
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>>215877797
>>215878750
hey Apple marketing guys
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Why doesn't the hivemind use all of the smart thinking people to accelerate inventions or can it work only with what it has, it can't make all the smart people invent new shit?
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>>215878977
That's what I thought about earlier.
>take me to area 51
>who killed jfk
>read me the epstein files
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>>215879017
Because this is not a scifi show. It's an intrapersonnal drama about depression, alienation and mourning and it's dogshit
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>>215878467
>try to survive and live
Theyre not exactly struggling on that front
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>>215879017
Their highest priority is to find a way to infect the dozen that seem to be immune an they estimate it taking a few months. They are also occupied in rebuilding the world while also trying to please the dozen. The hive can wait a few months and just accelerate on any direction they choose to
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>>215879401
Is this show too smart for modern audiences?
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>>215879401
They should have shown one shot of her dressed in that white attire so that audience could connect it was the same character
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>>215879437
I'm starting to think so.
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>>215879437
No, the modern audience happens to second screen a lot
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>>215879477
Yeah, they're too dumb pay attention, you're saying the same thing.
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>>215879489
Distraction from another stimulus isnt dumbness
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Carol is gonna fuck the hivemind, right?
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>>215879530
Yes
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>hivemind is a deceiver
>there are uninfected people alive
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>>215878977
Technically everyone already knows except for the 13 survivors
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>be me, morroccan muslim woman minding my own business
>get infected by alien virus
>become a sex slave for an american lesbian and a mauritanian rapist

what the hell is this
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>>215879763
>morroccan muslim woman minding my own business
More like a desert hobo
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>>215879401

to be fair vince wasted time filming a ass shot of a woman with negative ass instead of making obvious is the same woman
you always have to dumb it down,your main public is yanks,ALWAYS DUMB IT DOWN
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>>215877176
The immune are still infected and connected to the hive mind, they just aren't controlled by it. Anyone spazzing out would cause the backlash but only those that are not controlled are capable of doing so.

They want to keep the immunes happy because they are capable of killing the hive mind once they accept that all the controlled humans are already dead.
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>>215879627
>>215878977
>So you DO want to join us? :-)
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>>215879809
this looks like a desert to you?
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making your main character and making her bark orders to the other struggling miniorities is certainly a choice...
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>>215880008
looks like a city next to a desert
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>>215879763
Is she actually brown? I thought she was white
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>>215879763
Where tf are people getting Morocco from? That scene was shot in the Virgin Islands.
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>>215880992
Idfk, my first assumption for the background was either Greece, Italy or somewhere in the Balkans or Turkey. Did the cars have any license plates?
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>we needed to accelerate things in order to avoid further loss of life
>kills almost a billion people
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>>215879763
They wouldn't have went through the trouble of hiring a polish actress just to make the character morroccan.
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I’d make the alien niggers build me a castle and throne and then I’d roleplay as Hitler all day with my alien nigger slaves doing nazi salutes and shouting sieg heil
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episode 3 is gonna freak yall out
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>>215879763
I think it'll be a cause of conflict in the future. Carol will grow attached to the Pirate Lady and when she's cured she'll want nothing to do with her.
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It's like Gilligan read Adrian Tchaikovsky but horribly missed the point.
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who pirate lady here?
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>>215881364
11/10 in the breast and nipple department
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The hive asks her to join them in the episode 3 trailer. Are they giving her a choice?
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I thought I was in for kino when they namedropped Finnegans Wake but it was all downhill from there
This is like if ”Fly” from Breaking Bad got its own show
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>>215881364
House's Ukranian wife?
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hope this doesn't turn into drama faggotry and remains a high concept sci-fi show
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will my gf enjoy watching this show? pic related
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>>215876763
Yep
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>>215876954
>>215876975
i pirate pluribus to avoid giving money to apple
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>>215881301
Kinda like how they hired a black American to play a Chilean national
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>>215876763
my opinion what the show is about: it's about Carol learning to cope with the fact that absolutely everyone now knows she's a lesbian, after she spent her entire life hiding it.
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>>215881271

the most reddit thing ever,literally"remember the popular show!? IS US!!"
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>>215878666
literally me characters
nice trips btw
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>>215876763
/tv/bros, is this show worth to watch or not ?
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>>215881555
I am guessing she would

Also does SHE know about being your gf?
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>>215881744
That's so lame in 2025
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>>215881862
Worst case scenario you can hate watch it
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>>215881862
So far it's painfully "ok"
Worth watching if you've got nothing much else to watch/do
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>>215881862
least awful thing to come out this year so far
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Meh, i just hate shows about disenfranchised people tediously solving the method to approach a problem. At the end of the series its like, wow now im ready for the show to start
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>>215881932
True
>>215882004
>>215882062
Appreciate you, frens. You're right, I'm bored asf, ain't much to lose anyway
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>>215882189
Just read Children of Time series instead, especially book 2.
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>>215881913
>in 2025
there are still a lot of people that are deeply closeted
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>>215881348
GRAVO GRINCE
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>>215882242
>there are still a lot of people that are deeply closeted
if its in USA then that's weird since people don't really care
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>>215877834
You clearly have never installed a RAID array.
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>>215879401
Honestly I just think American brunettes all look alike.
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>>215881555
Your gf looks like one of my male cousins.
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>>215879809
The box truck that showed up in her first scene said "levant" on it, it was probably in Lebanon, maybe Syria or Israel
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>>215881862
I‘d wait for the season to conclude and check back
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>>215880992
hijabis and men dressed in north african clothes, place looks super mediterranean and there was even a sign saying "tanger"
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Where is the show even going to go from here? Can't imagine this premise keeping my attention for much longer unless something drastic happens
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>>215877372
nigger what, chatgpt is like 5 years old
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>>215876763
>spoiler
the Human Instrumentality Project is going as planned, I see
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am i stupid for thinking the entire thing is an allegory for how after losing the person you love most in the world you become resentful towards every other human even if they mean well
that's how i choose to interpret it
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>>215882380
She's Polish.
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>>215881862
wokeslop
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The show is a critique of the left-wing. They force their idea of utopia on society without anyone else's consent, acting like they're doing it for everyone when really it's just about placing themselves in a position of power, then act like victims when anyone resists. The way the hive people literally seize up when negative emotions are directed at them is an obvious parody of SJW cry-bully tactics
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>>215880992
>TANGER AIRPORT
>wtf are they in america or something?
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>>215883162
yeah you've figured it all out man, vince gilligan is a secret based trumper, no other interpretation is possible
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>>215883162
why would you time travel 9 years into the future just to watch a mid tv show and post on 4chan about it
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>>215883148
Me on left
You on right (hopefully)

I’m waiting…
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>>215883162
>outrageous black muslim rapist is showered with free shit by the woke hivemind instead of getting punished
bravo vince
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>>215876885
>Everyone is dead. All 7 billions but 13 individuals are dead.
>Gilligan apparently wanted people to debate if it was a good thing to live in the hivemind. Retard, what the fuck do you mean? It doens't even make sens to talk about a "you" living in them.

Exactly.

First ep was ok, but the second was a complete shitshow. Terrible acting, script full of flaws (veganism, she get blackout drunk in seconds, she speaks to her pilot, but the pilot of the other plane dont get it...), there's NO ONE that I like in the whole show, there's no one to empathize, unless they bring some other new character, and the worse is like, it lead nowhere. A useless ep.

Vince Gilligan's zombies will say it's the best series they've seen, but RIGHT NOW I think it's crap. I will watch the rest to see where it goes but it doesnt look good.

>>215877536
There's no one to like in the whole show, as I said, if they dont introduce a new character apart of the 13 alive this series is doomed.
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best survivor: mongolian guy
worst survivor: indian woman
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is about AI,retards,watch the scene with the kid being a know-it-all again
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>complaining about a lesbian show where both main women are attractive
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>>215883437
>shows can only be about one thing

>captcha: NGGRR
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>>215879763
I would have a harem of hot MENA women (specially Moroccan). Fucking love MENA hoes. My ex is Moroccan kek
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>>215883437
Got annoyed Carole didn’t ask that little paki the faecal matter statistics in oceans and which ocean has the worst contamination
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>>215883407
Notice the male survivors are based, while female survivors are problematic
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>>215883397
>she get blackout drunk in seconds,
This bothered me too. Nobody who needs a breathalyzer on her steering wheel can get blackout drunk that easily. They should have found another way to knock her out if the plot needed her unconscious.
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>>215879763
>>215879809
>>215882574
>>215882878
Americans are full retards. How could people not get that that woman was the same from the beggining? And people is really asking themselves where shes from after having a FUCKING SIGN saying it's Tanger?!?!? Jesus Christ... Thats why Hollywood is just bringing shit, people are totally retard. How can I be poor and Americans rich if they have like negative IQ? Its not fair.
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>>215879401
I ... didn't know that
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>>215883545
Americans will believe they’re right and argue you as well. It’s like the quiz show question of looking at buying kitchens and eating meatballs. Obvious answer ikea. American answer Rome (of course)
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>>215883605
Are these Americans in the room with you now?
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>>215883641
They’re on this very board, newfag
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>>215876763
Please just tell me is this worth watching or no? Just say yes or no. Bear in mind, I'm not interested in watching women being hysterical for hours on end, it needs to actually be good
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>>215883658
>I'm not interested in watching women being hysterical for hours on end, it needs to actually be good

Whole world got infected by a virus, they are no longer individuals (to me they're dead), but 13 humans, of those, 6 speak English, and the 6 of them are retards. Main character is a mid life crisis lesbian with alcoholism.
There's no one likeable.
I will watch to see where it goes, but it looks grim.
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>>215883658
Cool premise, well directed, weak characters, plot too early to call, could be good could be bad
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>>215883575
same
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Why do viewers believe everything the hivemind claims? The hivemind might be lying about only being 13 survivors. There are probably no survivors or there might be millions hiding in caves or underground bunkers. Remember in the first episode we were told the president was dead and only the EPA guy was available.
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Better Call Saul reached kino status episode 6. So 4 more episodes before I call Vince a hack
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>>215883797
>Better Call Saul reached kino status episode 6

Nigger, BCS was crap until they stopped the fucking retard brother BS.
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>>215883797
1 more episode
Gordon wrote the next one. If he can't fix it, it's over
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>>215883821
Wrong. It was amazing until Chuck died.
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>>215883658
so far, no

its woke (lesbian main character, strong woman type shit)
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>>215883821
what a fucking take
the show became near unwatchable after chuck died, all the fanservice cartel shit was the worst part of it
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Breaking Bad sucks if you still think it's good you haven't rewatched it in 5+ years
BCS runs laps around it and only fails to deliver on making Mike and Gus storylines interesting for the first four seasons, however that's instantly fixed when Lalo is introduced. I also think the show needed a lot more Lydia.
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>>215883797

i dont know how BCS became a thing,you really need to turn off your brain to not realize the actor looks older and more fucked up than in breaking bad
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>>215883966
Mike in season 1 and 2 is great stories. Hell if they kept Gus out and just had Mike being paid to pull shady shit for Jimmy would’ve been great
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>>215883999
such as.... (HARD MODE: no Five-O)
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>>215884049
Sneaking the kettlebooobs scene is great
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this show holds a mirror up to the npcs
first they see themselves but slowly they start to see their true selves
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>>215883978
Most people can do that very easily
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>Take heroic dose
>Experience ege death
>Experience hivemind "everything is one"
>Make a show about it
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>Ayy lmaos build giant dish the size of Africa to spread more Ayy lmao message across the cosmos
>Carol goes DoomGuy rip and tear killing the hive
>The hive is unable to enact violence so they just get mowed down
>The hive sicks a bunch of lions on her because "we aren't killing her, they are"
>But as the lions approach, individuals of The Hive begin jumping in front as literal meat shields because Helen's "individual" memory won't ever want to see Carol die
>Hive self destructs
>Humans win!!! (???)
>Except this was only stage 1 of The Hive invasion and now they come in PHYSICAL FORM (took them a couple of months, sorry, interstellar travel is quiet a bitch AYYY LMAO~)
>But they also still don't kill
>TO BE CONTINUED (series not renewed for a new season)
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"e pluribus unum"
meaning...
e: from/of
pluribus: many
unum: one
so... from many, one

the title, plur1bus, encapsulates this phrase by shoving a 1 into pluribus

"e pluribus unum" is United States' founding motto, it is on ever piece of money it produces and the presidential and vp office seals. a seal that is surely plastered all over Air Force One.

it's specific original meaning was in reference to the 13 colonies that formed a union to declare independence from Britain. the 13 letters in "e pluribus unum" is said to represent those 13 colonies.
it surely isn't a coincidence that there are 13 immune people.
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>>215883781
>Remember in the first episode we were told the president was dead and only the EPA guy was available.
When was it revealed they were lying about this?
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>>215878985
Not hard to imagine? They just match up (as efficiently as possible). Probably even utilize their collective intelligence to do eugenics shit. This won't be explored in the show but it doesn't take much imagination to piece together what they would do. Propagating the species is probably low on their bucket list of what they'd need to do. They're vegan, so it seems like they are okay with killing plant life, so they'll be able to sustain a (small) population up to a point considering they won't be using pesticides and will have a smaller yield as a result. At some point the predators will go unchecked and since they can't kill even for self defense they'd just naturally die out.

So breeding more is probably not something they're worried about. Perhaps the plan is they'll just be smart enough to create super-domes or something where humans can live protected from the lions and tigers and other shit out to eat them. But having only like 10 individuals alive would still suit their needs since "everyone" will still be experiencing life through those 10 individuals anyway and as long as they have people sustaining their giga-dish sending messages to space then that's all that matters.
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>>215878666
They should have made him a fat unattractive neckbeard who unironically has them give him a golden fedora and hakama for his attire. Then I could self insert.
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>>215883966
Some parts of Breaking Bad felt like a prototype for a lot of the shit they'd get better in BCS. Compare Skyler and Kim, for example
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>>215876799
There is no evidence as of yet that Carol is an alcoholic (alcoholic is a physical state categorized by withdrawals)
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we need to be getting hyped for the vegas episode
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>>215884600
Hmm...Maybe you're onto something, cause I'd love to stick my tongue as deep as I can into Kim's asshole and rim it for at least 1 full solid hour but I'd rather Skyler rim my asshole specifically after I just took a wet messy shit without wiping and would never let my mouth anywhere near hers.
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>>215878185
The virus survives from using a host to achieve its goal and then jumps to the next, no indication they are interested in preserving the humans once they achieve their goal.
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>>215876763
At some point in this series the hivemind will attempt to negotiate with / appease Carl by giving her Helen back in a new body giving her some kind of complex ethical choice. There's basically no other reason for her to be revealed in passing to have had her thoughts and memories absorbed by the hivemind but have the show not dwell on this.
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>>215884620
Sounds like absolute ass. What fun is it to gamble with the hive?
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new teaser (it's nontent) https://x.com/AppleTV/status/1988702968385044979?s=20
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>>215876763
is this woke?
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So do we seriously have fourteen characters for this entire series and that's it
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>>215884722
Here's a real clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJkAEly-s5Y
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>>215884748
Yep, 2 episodes and thats all the characters, no one else will be introduced
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>>215883978
The original idea for BCS was a client-of-the-week sitcom but they made it a prequel/sequel hybrid instead.
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>>215884737
Kind of and not really. The main character is a lesbian who has to stay in the closet for her career, but at the same time the show makes fun of "dark fantasy" fans and the tumblr crowd.
And it depicts east asians as retarded NPCs would join the hivemind at the first chance.

I guess we will have to wait for a few more episodes for a definite answer.
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>>215884683
based on the first two episodes Vince probably is cluleless enough to think this would qualify as a "complex ethical choice".
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>>215884812
ok maybe i'll try the first episode
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>>215884748
If guy from paraguay was introduced late nothing stops others from being too
Who knows, maybe some guys from uncontacted or barely contacted tribes will show up
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>>215884797
where will the other characters come from bwo
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>>215884748
it would have been 4 if it were based on the garden of eden and that would have been more than enough characters when one of them is god.... but it's based on the american revolution so you get 14.
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>>215884848
Well there will be an episode in a casino, and there's like 50 new faces in that scene alone.
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>>215884890
Ah yes my good friends Hive 1, Hive 2, ..., Hive 50
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>>215884916
Exactly
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>that little turdlet isn't your son anymore you shit brain pajeeta, he's a poop crust puppet being piloted by the hivemind now get it in your fucking skull
Damn Vince, I know international opinion on Indians is low now but that felt a bit harsh
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Why does the nigger not get a harem of the worlds most famous actresses and models instead of 5 generic hot women.
George Clooney exists within this universe so I assume the same goes for actresses
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>>215877093
She should be given a buffet of upstanding lasses to break (sexually).
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>>215884993
What's the point of fucking a famous actress if fame and acting aren't a thing anymore
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>>215884993
Why actresses, why put the glorified prostitutes on a pedestool, name one famous actress that is more attractive than a model, without them being both a model and actress
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>>215884949
>famous women
>tight virgins
you can choose one and only one anon.
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>>215882343
> the human consciousness is 2 GB
What
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>>215885101
OK 2.1
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>>215885033
why would those not be things?
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Is it a good show or not?
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>>215877834
>But where are her memories stored?
A transcended being with the brain power of 7 billion humans probably can figure out how to store memories across its drones.
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What am I supposed to think about this /tv/ show?
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>>215877834
DNA can theoretically store insane amounts of data in a tiny amount of jizz, we're talking about 200 petabytes per gram.
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>>215885212
Plus the human brain is incredibly efficient even compared to real datacenters, doing that must be a no-brainer
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>>215885221
that it has a nice premise, but it's too early to decide whether it is good since it has not hit its main plot loop yet.
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>>215884748
It's not much different from any other show/film. Take basically any story and it's likely to have around dozen characters that really matter and the rest are incidental NPC people that are just... around.

Only here those background characters are literally all the same for the sake of the gimmick, so at least it's some change?
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>Chinese social media isn't talking about Pluribus

It's over
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>>215876926
>Memories aren't consciousness
This.
Too many autists in these generals dont know wtf theyre talking about.
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>>215876763

I have a BA in philosophy and I can't stand listening to dumb fucks on the internet discuss shows like this that deal with philosophical issues like consciousness and free will.

If you've never read anything about the hard problem of consciousness please shut the fuck up about this show. You sound like an idiot child.

Thomas Nagle's "What is it like to be a bat" is a good place to start, if you're interested in thinking deeply about the subject and learning something instead of shitting out your unfounded opinions on 4chan.
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>>215884758
STOP BEING MEAN TO ZOSIA >:(
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>>215885033
because they were a famous actress for the last 40 years you've been alive and you thought about them a hundred times? are you dumb?
WHAT'S THE POINT OF AIR FORCE 1 IF THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T A THING ANYMORE
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>>215885401
Philosophy is garbage.
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>>215885221
Didn't Kojimbles praise Pluribus on X?
Unironically what got me to watch. His games are anime nonsense but the man has patrician tastes.
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>>215884758
And they hated him because he spoke the truth
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>>215885633
>WHAT'S THE POINT OF AIR FORCE 1 IF THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T A THING ANYMORE
It looks cool compared to many planes, has it's own special equipment, rooms and is huge as fuck. And before you say "but there's other planes like that", regular people rather than plane autists wouldn't be able to name them, while most people know the air force 1.
The actress might as well be any other good looking thot, nothing special.
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>>215885672
Yes
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>>215885733
Kojima is too easily impressed by first impressions
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>>215885723
>And before you say "but there's other planes like that"
There aren't actually.
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Carol "hitting" that door and "running" away from the table are peak
>I AM ACTING
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>>215883658
Yes.
but wait until more episodes are out before you start.
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>>215883978
Nobody actually views this as a legitimate criticism.
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>>215876763
As far as I'm concerned the first two episodes were a single episode, that's why they dropped at once. I'm holding out hope that EP 3 will actually start to change things. Also hoping that Carol will stop being bitchy next ep but that's likely going to be her main character arc so we'll have to deal with that for a while.
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time machine bros invest early in this theory
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>>215885221

keep the actors of this show away from this hack
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>>215885822
This. People are able to suspend their disbelief when they want to enjoy an interesting premise. They would rather watch an older actor pretend to be 20 than deal with a new younger, shittier actor.
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>>215885953
>3D scans Kim's saggy buttocks
nothin personell kiddo, this goes into my newest walking simulator
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>>215886027
Hideo-SAMA, I kneel
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>>215885953
You know he's begging Rhea to be the villain in Death Stranding 3. She'd be great.
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>>215876763
If tomorrow's episode isn't a substantial improvement, then I'm giving up on not only this show, but post-covid media entirely. 80s B horror movies are more engaging than this woke slop, and the casts are all-white with attractive women instead of middle-aged dyke Karens.
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Vince said in an interview "We might never know why Carol is immune [...] we still haven't decided that yet" (paraphrased)

it's so fucking over lol
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>>215886321
They're still workshopping a bunch of things and figuring out what will piss off the internet the least. The shadow of LOST looms long over TV writers.
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>>215886321
So it confirms all the scifi shit is unimportant and just background dressing lmao
Prepare for gay lesbian drama chuds!
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>>215885633
air force 1 has the name of the show on it
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>>215886321
Vince has always been making shit up as he goes along
remember the gun in the trunk in BrBa
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>>215876763
Time in the universe is cantered on the individual. They would have a hive sense but still be a person. Durrrr
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>white woman is portrayed is an over-emotional delusional shrew
>brown thirdworlders are retards
>gooks are soulless robots
>black guy can't think any further than his dick


BBBBBBBRAVO VINCE BRAVO
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>>215876763
Is ep 3 out yet?
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>>215882343
Is there any kind of speed benefit to RAID 0 that at all justifies doing it? How much faster is 8 drives compared to a single SSD?
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who the fuck burries a loved in her back yard
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>>215886599
where else was she supposed to
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>>215886461
In less than a month.
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>>215884737
On the one hand
>most of humanity is enslaved by an RNA injection that turns them into a communist hivemind
On the other
>main character is a dyke
Only two episodes so it's hard to say yet.
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>>215877938
The fact that in the show all the shitskin non-joined support the situation mirrors how shitskins are the most gung-ho for AI is pretty funny.
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>>215886676
yeah, they're the only ones dumb enough to think LLMs are going to govern/enslave us
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>coomer 70 iq african
>asian that wants to join the hivemind
>bitchy annoying indian
>all low iq npcs
>white person is the only one with a sense of justice
this show is based
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>>215886321
vince is extremely good at working as he goes if nothing else, he originally planned for jesse to get killed in breaking bad and it wouldn't have nearly been the same show if that happened
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>>215886347
Please, I just want a modern scifi focused show that isn't rancid shit... is that so much to ask for...
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Severance has a better setup
better pilot
better cast
better cinematography
better music
better dialogue
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So like, the black dude having orgies...does he direct the hive individually? Like "You there, lick my ballsack. And you, lick the tip. And you, jerk it into her mouth. And you, tongue my anus. And you, lick my left nipple. And you, rub your vagina on my right nipple. And you, put your anus onto my face. And y-mfffm fmf mf mffff"
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I can’t be the only one who thinks this show is pushing some form of anti-communist messaging, right?

During the ending of episode 1 I was thinking that the hivemind seems awfully similar to how anti-communists describe Marxists and such, but I wasn’t so sure. For the entire rest of episode 2 I was teetering on whether they were trying to push individualism (not the best choice of words but you probably get the point) or just bash on communism, until Carol mentioned Stalin near the end.

I know this could be a reach because of the reason Carol has for referencing him, but I can’t help but feel it’s deeper than that just based on the overall premise of the show and the way they present it. I can’t find anyone else talking about this though so I just wanted to know if someone else thought this or if I’m just looking too deep into it.
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>>215886828
It all completely unravelled in season 2 so its trash
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>>215886828
>better pilot
yes
>better cast
yes
>better cinematography
no
>better music
maybe
>better dialogue
maybe in S1

but also >>215886950
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>>215886885
It's pushing anti-collectivist messaging. It's a critique on both commies and fascists.
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>>215886885
Missing the mark on the part that the hivemind is pacifist and avoids harm while every communist regime was anything but
However, I could see it
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>>215886828
>ywn watch season 1 for the first time again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdRhB_M7qk
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>>215886633
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>>215886885
Yes, see point one >>215886656

>>215887143
A big plot point of episode 2 was Carol getting them to admit they killed hundreds of millions to achieve their take over though.
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>>215876885
I mean show does present the question of "could everyone being a hivemind be better"? But also presents the answer "of course not, idiot", given the main protagonist and hero of the story is explicitly against it.

The real problem is so far it's not really done anything that one Rick and Morty episode had already done.
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>>215887253
In the past 24 hours we've gotten 1 day closer to the release of the next episode.
Hope this trend continues.
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>>215887493
>But also presents the answer "of course not, idiot", given the main protagonist and hero of the story is explicitly against it.
That's not an answer. The show even makes it clear she's a miserable bitch.
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>>215887683
Which is presented as a good thing. "Most miserable person on the planet saves the world from happiness" is the tagline of the show. And Vince has already said he's stick of writing about bad people so this is ultimately going to be us deciding Carol is doing the right thing by rebelling. Or at the very least the show presenting it that way.
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>>215887768
The show should make it uncertain if it's a good or bad thing that she "fixes" everyone.
Carol doesn't need to be the bad guy to do something that ultimately is harmful
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>>215886461
Friday
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>>215886208
You could always just fuck off now and stop shitting up the thread
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>>215883844
>until Howard died
ftfy
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>>215881555
Tell her to stop wearing bras
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>>215877777
Criminally unchecked
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>>215886347
this show is about yuri, the rest is just background nonsense
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relevance of the timer going up?
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>>215888477
Jesus died and will rise as the 14th person
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>>215888477
It's a reference to how space missions are counted. You start with a countdown to 00:00:00:00.000 and then you count up for the duration of the mission.
Voyager 1 and 2 are still counting after 40 years
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>>215876763
This show sucks and it makes no sense. All the people share one hive mind yet poo poos still speak broken english?
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>>215888640
The 2nd episode shows you that individuality still exists underneath the hivemind, yes.
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>>215888477
Are you retarded? It counted down for the event happening. The "count up" is to show how long since the event. This idiotic dumb show might be to much for you.
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>>215888671
I realize that you retarded nigger monkey. My question is why that was still relevant in the second episode
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>>215888690
Because time marches on. Again, are you retarded?
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Is it a hivemind or is everyone sharing on consciousness? Like If I had a harem of waifus (including emma myers, emma watson, emma stone, etc) would it also be like fucking my mom/sisters?
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>>215888661
They are incapable of individual thought. It's a hive mind. All people act as one.
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>>215888690
This show, which is made for 90 iq redditors is too much for you to handle.
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>>215888762
>Is it a hivemind or is everyone sharing on (sic) consciousness?
Those are the exact same things...Fucking one would be fucking all. Your mom, your sister, your uncle that molested you when you where 9, russian janitor, a baby, etc
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>>215888690
>WHY DO THEY SHOW HOW LONG IT HAS GONE SINCE PEOPLE BECAME ONE CONSCIOUSNESS AFTER THE FIRST EPISODE?
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>>215877609
Welcome to Earn
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That subhuman indian chick really got on my nerves. Go shit in the streets you living filth
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the only likable character in this show is literally a nigger coomer.
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Does the new episode of this come out tonight, or tomorrow?
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>>215889130
They should make a spinoff just for him. Including all the sex scenes. In fact, every episode should have at least 30 minutes of hardcore unscripted pornography.
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>>215889116
Carol calm down or you may make the hive spaz again
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>>215889130
He is the worst. Probably grew up chewing rocks for money and when he gets a little power he just becomes what people thought about doing when they got money and/or power when they where in kindergarten. In other words; A typical negro.
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>>215888640
They were merely pretending so the pajeeta would stay calmer
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>>215876763
They would not let Vince make a third show in a row without LGBT representation, it seems.
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>>215886885
There's definitely an element to that. It's worth noting how the immediate reddit talking points of "now there's no more war and racism!" come from the hedonist who is clearly just trying to take advantage of the situation
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>These are the "individuals" you're sharing a planet with. Still think eugenics is unethical?
Jesus Christ, Vince.
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>>215878051
Anon, its a hive mind. Every single person is inhabiting every single body on earth.
Think about it.
This means that those pimped out sex slaves are also having every single consciousness of every single nimphomaniac woman with possibly every single kink on earth, including black french guys.
Ironically, in a sense, they want this.
Which is also fucked up, because chances are that the consciousness of every single pedo, coprophagia and guro fetishist out there is ALSO inside the hivemind, but i can only guess they are being supressed or convinced that this is bad for some reason.
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>>215889239
You know Gus was gay, right?
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>>215889239
doomed yuri ftw. also the actress they cast for her love interest was ugly as shit goddamndgs
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>>215889345
I forgot actually. it is a bit different when its the main character desu. or at least that's what my woke friends have said to me in the past.
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>>215876763
Is this show good? The description sounded depressing. Is it more misery propaganda or should I watch it w my family
>>215884368
Wtf is this numerology
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>>215889207
To be fair given the situation and under the assumption that the hivemind cannot in any way be defeated, which is basically what all immunes but Carol seem to think, what else is there?
Jobs, status, private property all were made irrelevant with the hivemind. Helping people is worthless, the hivemind can take care of itself. Family and friends are all part of the brain, relationships in general are void because you'd be doing it with all of humanity. Any kids would too just be it.
With the "power" of being an immune treated like a pet by the hivemind until they find a way to cure it, what is there for him to do or ought him to do besides going for pleasure and fun?
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>>215889416
What I don't get is the pleasure part. How does sex with a hive mind even work. Is the woman he is fucking even capable of feeling pleasure? If a single push from Carol ended the lives of 11 million people what will happen when a woman in the hive mind is getting plowed by BBC? This show makes no sense
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>>215889239
This is good representation tho. If you make this insufferable rich western libtard woman who has her morality learned from holywood movies (amazingly this is even spelled out), making her lesbian is par on course.
So far the show is deconstructing her archetype and i hope they do not stop.
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>>215889474
>Is the woman he is fucking even capable of feeling pleasure?
Given that one dude missing a leg was calmly going in an ambulance it's a given they don't feel pain so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't feel pleasure either.
Or maybe they feel pleasure 24/7 and that's the "joining happiness" they talked about
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>>215889628
yeah this is pretty good rep
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>>215889207
That's the most reasonable course of action in this situation. Every sane man would do exactly what he did. No one but a timmy with a white savior complex would give a shit about the world ending.
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they're really gonna have a b-plot about how carol wants to fuck the pirate lady aren't they
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>>215889739
Post hand
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>>215883397
I agree with this and I'm a Vince Gilligan zombie myself. This show looks like it's going nowhere fast. Every single character is annoying as fuck and there's no one to empathize with or root for. Also, if they bring back that obnoxious Indian woman and make her part of the regular cast I'm done.



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