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>>215890215
Sex with the hivemind.

>>215890227
>NOOOO THAT'S RAPE
Wouldn't that mean that everytime you ask the hivemind to make something for you it's slavery?

>>215890215
You forgot the part where they're going to enslave her eventually and she will become part of the borg.

This show is somehow boring the severance s2. Also looks AI ish

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>>215890215
E Pluribus Anus

>>215890238
No? The hivemind wants to help her. Thats not rape if it consents.

>>215890257
>NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENED AGAIN

>>215890268
They don't want to help her. They're just trying to keep her happy because if she's unhappy they die. Their prime directive is to infect her.

>>215890298
so they trade sex with security. doesn't sound like rape.

>>215890322
If you told a woman that you were going to kill her if she didn't have sex with you and she obliged, that would indeed be considered rape.

>>215890215
>steal Utopia's cover marketing

>>215890341
Rape isn’t even real, women are property, you don’t even have to listen to anything they say or talk to them
You don’t ask a tree when you pick an apple off its branch

>>215890227
>white girls suck my cock
>chink girls rim my anus
>latinas lick my ball
this is all I want in this situation

>>215890341
so then asking the hivemind to do anything is slavery
why is the focus on the black guy banging the hive mind then

>>215890392
>so then asking the hivemind to do anything is slavery
Yeah pretty much

>why is the focus on the black guy banging the hive mind then
I dunno, NTA, don't really care about the rape thing, just pointing out that it is what it is. This show is looking like it's going to suck anyways. Every character is either boring or obnoxiously unlikable and the Indian woman makes me want to stop watching altogether. Indians are so repulsive.

>>215890341
The plurb also feels good about affection

Is the show's big theme the absence of free will? Because you have to be a special kind of retard to argue normal people are the same as the hivemind which shows no joy, no interest in anything and is focused on a singular purpose - the few remaining humans.

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>>215890215
I sort of enjoyed the first episode but I would prefer an Andromeda strain situation or a more hard science premise. The goofy angle is going to ruin it.

>>215890482
The show's big theme is that white people are the only ones with above room temperature IQ's. This is a prophecy of the AI/human cyborg world that awaits us.

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So do you think he's going to show up at some point?

Celebrities must've become part of the collective consiousness now, too, right?

>>215890601
The show looks like it has a gazillion-dollar budget, so it wouldn't be a surprise if they hired a washed-up actor for a cameo. But since Carol's a lesbian and has no interest in George Clooney, there's really no need for him to be on the show.

>>215890541
Your post is literally the textbook example of the white savior complex that OP was making fun of.

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>>215890356
>Rape isn’t even real, women are property, you don’t even have to listen to anything they say or talk to them
>You don’t ask a tree when you pick an apple off its branch

How does the hive mind cope knowing they have all the memories of serial killers, pedophiles, rapists, and other horrible people that are part of it?

>>215890757
Yes and OP has brown skin (as do you)

>>215890854
It's not human. Do we care when animals rape and murder one another?

>>215890854
because the entity i'll refer to as pluribus is not human and does not have any identity with any of the people it assimilated, and because of this it doesn't have any personal sense of revulsion or regret towards those sorts of things.
imagine you took control of a bunch of ants. their ant memories wouldn't really be of much significance to you, only their knowledge that would help you in the furtherance of your goals.

>>215890854
By knowing they eliminated such problems through the joining.

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Any expectations for what Paraguay guy will have in store for us tomorrow?

>>215890854
>and other horrible people
anon everyone has bad thoughts and impulses. it's just that 99.9999% of us don't act on them.

it's definitely not unprecedented

>>215891053
episode comes out friday i thought.
and my bet is he's going to finally be another sensible person but much more grounded than carol

So if they sex with one of them then are having sex with everyone else on earth?
I dont think they really thought this plot out

>>215891130
Now imagine that you are experiencing the positive feeling you get from sex, but you're feeling it all at once, and 24/7.
It'd be like being high on heroin 24/7 without nodding off or losing the high.

>>215891130
>having sex with everyone else on earth
they're not people anymore. it's a single entity with no real human identity. i just draws on the human minds and bodies, the "individuals," it controls

>>215890724
She did mention him though when asked about who the male character in her books were inspired by. Even when her girlfriend pushes her to come up with something more clever, she stays adamant about Clooney. I'm just sayin it's possible maybe he's the one man Carol would cross to the other side for.

>>215890934
>their ant memories wouldn't really be of much significance to you
Speak for yourself

>>215891163
i dont think this is entirely true.
if it were truly a collective decision making puppet society do you think the lil indian boy would have slipped up and got baited by Carol asking him gynecology questions? the fact he knows that hit is because of the hivemind yes.. but is the hivemind a low impulse control know-it-all? that scene feels like that little spark of independent agency to me.

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>>215890215
Everyone watching but you would feel like her. How edgy and contrarian of you to side with the antagonist of the series.

>>215890854
I'm sure those were the ones who "didn't survive" the changeover.

>>215891767
That was either bad writing or the kid was trying to stay in character per his instructions.

>>215890215
>Woman
>Moral compass
LMAO

>>215890854
>How does the hive mind cope knowing they have all the memories of serial killers, pedophiles, rapists, and other horrible people that are part of it?
The hivemind appears to be very happy, I think the hivemind virus gives all its hosts euphoria in order to keep itself from collapsing from stuff like what you say.

>>215891767
I can't think of any response the jeetlet could give that Carol wouldn't be able to use against him.

>>215891767
>if it were truly a collective decision making puppet society do you think the lil indian boy would have slipped up and got baited by Carol asking him gynecology questions?
just rewatched the scene and "the individual known as Ravi" (formerly boy) doesn't register it as a slip up and just answers after some consideration. because it's pluribus with no real regard for the social etiquette or limitations around the behavior of children.

>but is the hivemind a low impulse control know-it-all?
no it's just not human, and even its views on what is helpful or doesn't cause suffering are not human views. and so when it is asked about gynecology it merely answers, out of a well-meaning transparency not feeling the need to hide the way things are or act like a boy per se. it sees nothing wrong with being straight forward about the way things are now and so when asked it sees no issue answering.

tho i can also see your point. i'm just on team carol that this is a non-human take over by a single entity that is using the bodies and minds of humans

>>215890215
>Is this what every white woman thinks? It's like their entire moral compass comes straight from a Hollywood movie.

are you under the assumption you are watching reality when watching a TV show? Or do you just wanna rage at "white women" (that you mostly know from TV shows)?

>>215891816
and i think its the border of the scifi tech. keeping it somewhat hard scifi in the same vain as it was introduced... there isnt some puppetmaster controlling them and the tech is simply everyone is connected and it includes some amount of lagtime to transfer... hence the first coming online seizure for the mass transfer... once you consider that...realisically is every different agent going to make the exact same decision when in the exact same situation... yes most of the time... however the agent's own decision making is the actor and if that is compelled by some element beyond the situation/memories/knowledge they have.... say for example the current development level of their frontal lobe or the amount of testosterone thwir body produces or the influence of a competing brain parasite (toxoplasmosis) any of which produces changes to impulse control.... well you can get different outcomes.

>>215892023
>no it's just not human
billions of humans isnt human is the argument youre making

>>215890293
We're going into an entire show where nothing happens! BBS chads buckle up!

>>215892019
>I don't know maam

>>215890293
>We'll talk later

>>215892137
That's an obvious lie.
His mother seems kinda stupid but I don't think even she would buy that.

>>215892019
if im a true single entity fleshpuppeting these people for the best outcome in manipulating the immunes i am just not having the boy answer the question.
someone else can answer it, or change the subject, deflect. it's obvious what Carol is baiting there.

>>215892196
Carol could just insist that he answer, and if met with constant refusal then explain the reason for his refusal.

>>215892081
>billions of humans isnt human
correct, because a human is an individual in a singular human mind and body, with and a unique personality based on a distinct experience from others.
pluribus is a non-human gestalt consciousness that infected and radically transformed the lives of humanity COMPLETELY WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. do you think the families of pluribus have dinner together? or are they all handing off duties with other individuals in different places without any of the former social constructs - sometimes being pilots, sometimes being housekeepers etc?
none of them engage in social activities with eachother. they merely perform functions.
and pluribus very clearly is not human given its morality and behavior (of self preservation and propagation at the expense of humanity).
it also has no impetus to pretend to be human, often flaunting it in the face of carol despite her discomfort. it greets her chorus regularly. humans do not do that.

>>215891053
hopefully a tuco type to spice things up

so far the show is sort of aimless, it doesn't catch you like breaking bad did from the get go

>Indian guy is obsessed with rape and turning every woman into a cum dumpster
Some jokes just write themselves

>>215890855
Wtf is a support person

>>215892196
>for the best outcome in manipulating the immunes
it doesn't actually need them for anything. they're as inconsequential as 11 individual cells in your body. it's studying them, no doubt having already collected their DNA and biometrics in various ways, but it does not need them at all. there's literally nothing they can do that will change anything.
pluribus accelerated the takeover only because things were escalating with the military which was catching wind and starting to put up meaningful resistance. it did it to avoid the inevitable nuclear scorched earth where it would not have a strong enough host species or planet to fulfill its function

>>215892233
i think its a big jump to go from, an individual with the full knowledge of a group to not an individual.
it would be like saying because we on the internet all have access to shared knowledge are no longer independent people... that /tv/ is just one conciousness.... thats obviously not the case, knowledge sharing might increase groupthink but it doesnt erase the individual.

>>215892274
misandrist term for a husband

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>>215891053
I really hope he´s a massive schizo conspiracy nut since that would be fun but really you have a thousand options of where to go with this show so I trust Vince.

>>215890215
Shows where the MC becomes almost a god in some way always need a MC with an annoying moral compass because otherwise it would end in 1 episode

>>215892332
>knowledge sharing might increase groupthink but it doesnt erase the individual.
it's more than just knowledge sharing tho. pluribus repeatedly says that they "are one." the RNA was a "psychic glue." they perform coordinated actions without looking at or really acknowledging eachother at all.
and the reason is because they are not just sharing knowledge, they are now a single mind for a single entity that has many individual bodies like just so many fingers

>>215892332
>that /tv/ is just one conciousness.... thats obviously not the case
You're right, but can you explain why that's not the case?
In your explanation you should find an answer as to why it's not the same as the situation in the show.

>>215891811
nah

>>215892373
tsmt

focusing on a low iq topic like sexual consent is par for the course with normies.

High IQ individuals focus on other topics.

>do not focus on rape, sirrrr

>>215892431
Im kinda curious of what would happen with the mentally retarded and the giga non verbal autists.

>>215892456
the psychology would be erased when the individual was. if it was a physical neurological malady then it would persist, like a missing foot. however the individual will would still be gone despite the vessel being flawed or limited

I think it will be interesting if one of the other immune is an infant.

>>215892320
it does need them, as you said, for research
to research them is the objective because even that tiny amount of immune humans must scale up to millions or billions of immune animals.... imagine how many immune ants are still just acting in the interest of their hive instead of the hivemind, thats a problem.... or maybe it isnt numbers it's just the hubris of the knowledge of billions that they can better the RNA over the previous civilization they got it from, perfecting it.

but then why not just put the immune in cages under strictly controlled research conditions? well thats been demonstrated by Carol, the immune have an in-distress superweapon that causes the hivemind to seize.
so they have to research under a condition of making the subjects as comfortable as possible.... and if they in fact cannot perfect the RNA to fix these anomalies their choices are kill the immune or continue their lives in comfort because once again, they have superweapons.

>>215890215
the premise is ... lame
like something to make a movie around, but a tv series?
shit will run out of steam fast

>>215892389
its already been demonstrated they have access to thoughts so they can communicate internally silenty

...we are also right now the two of us communicating silently

their brains are an internet.... thats not evidence of a consiousness singularity just coordination

>>215892528
>but then why not just put the immune in cages
they are as good as captive. where will they go where they can't be seen? what will they do that will have any meaningful impact at all? they keep them captive by a sense of pleasure and normalcy. carol is the only immune that offers any sort of dilemma, and the only dilemma is that she might kill herself. which it would treat as completely insignificant given the other subjects to study. and if it was asked about her it would give the appropriate response to maintain calm so none of the other immunes are disturbed.

>>215892587
That's a pointless statement, if it's instant global communication to the point where it shutdowns at the same time and even moves the exactly same it's definitely a singularity, it's not like they can just ignore something or shut off communication to self-preserve.

And to use your own example, I'm going to silently call you a stupid faggot.

>>215890356
Saaaaaaar I the bloody alpha brain you the beta benchod

>>215892625
>what will they do that will have any meaningful impact at all?
i wouldnt bet on this one... we are ultimately discussing a story's plot after all... one that is heavily implied to be based on the American revolution. i fully expect the 13 colonies of immune to eventually fight a war of independence.

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>That killed more than stalin line
>Fighting against a commie pacifist hivemind
>Shits on Jeets
>MC values personal freedom above all else
This show is based, bravo vince.

>>215892660
consider there are naturally high IQ people like myself and low IQ people as yourself all connected by the mind internet and how my kind must be suffering in hell sharing the same informationscape as your kind. just constant retards butting in with their retardation.

>>215892739
Then how about you unplug from the informationscape and go touch some grass you stupid faggot.

>>215892587
>they can communicate internally silenty
again, communication would imply multiple. they are one.
they don't ask another what they think, telepathically or otherwise. they KNOW. knowing is faster than thought. Zosia wasn't having to ask how to fly a plane. there is no Zosia. that "individual" (that body) is called Zosia.
the mechanics of a single mind are lots of fun to think about, and chances are you are correct at least regarding what format the writers are choosing for the show but we'll see.
in zen buddhism vast portions of the masters' words were about "Mind in its true nature," "One Mind," "Buddha Mind" etc.
an analogy or format they talk about sketching out its structure and dynamics is as "guest" and "host."
they refer to there being things as host, as guest, as host within guest, as guest within host, host within host, guest within guest.
this can be applied to any system of individual vs. collective, but for them (i believe) it was not an abstraction or philosophy. these were inexpressible dynamics of their experience they merely referred to this way as expedients.
anyway, short answer i really love thinking about this kind of stuff, both the mechanics as well as the morality

>>215892732
>stalin line
I was genuinely shocked that they didn't say hitler. I actually said "wow" when I heard stalin and not hitler. lmao

>>215892693
yeah we'll see, that sensitivity or weakness to "other's" emotions is pretty big

when is new episode dropping? in how many hours?

>>215892886
friday i'm pretty sure

>>215892893
Friday what time? In EU timezone? I have nothing esle to watch at all this is the only thing I watch rn

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>>215892908

>EACH OF THE SURVIVORS IS A CAPITAL SIN
BRAVO
R
A
V
O

>>215892937
I cant figure out too much text i need time, now

>>215892954
learn to use google you disgusting subhuman

>>215892161
It doesn't matter how many times I see this joke, it always makes me laugh

>>215892971
Why you make things complicated it would be easier for both of us if u wrote the time u whiny faggot. grow up

>>215890601
Yes, they mentioned him for a reason. Don't tell anyone, but he's in episode 7.

>>215893025
How do you function in the world, retard? Waiting for a stranger to spoon-feed you information in the era of AI automation. GET A GRIP YOU LOSER.

>>215893068
WRITE TIME YOU BITCHHHHH

>>215890854
Can your pinky rape your nostril? No? Neither can Plurb's assimilated drones. Plurb has the memory of it happening, but it's 8 billion times more complex than a single person and cannot feel sympathy for its drones.

>>215893074
I'm not the person you originally replied, but I had to reply to your immense faggotry, even if it's bait.

>>215891767
In addition to the other replies, Plurb is 2 days old and naive in a way. I don't think it has the capacity to willfully lie to the individuals yet, but it will eventually.

>>215893090
>I'm not the person bla bla
sure u mong. I dont care about the show anymore bye.

>>215893126
Underage cancer, thanks for bumping the thread

Why do people love this show so much. It's fine. I have a lot of faith in Gil and co from bcs and bb so I'll keep holding out but so far this is just like everything else on TV.

>>215893140
Have another bump before I fuck your whore mother

>>215892362
Same desu

>>215893154
you need help to find a date, I doubt you could ever find your way into a vagina.

>>215893193
you type like a woman kys

>>215891053
Maybe it will be a Squid Game situation where the uninfected try to kill each other.

>>215893228
like you would know

>>215893254
Apparently I do

It comes out 9pm EST Thursday like the first two

>>215893265
see >>215892937

>>215893265
...where do guys whatch it (for free)?

>>215893272
This is wrong Apple TV shows always drop the night before, they advertise it as Friday because that's globally but in the US it's Thursday night. You weren't there for the first thread or Severance

>>215893263
Lots of experience from your mom's shower reminder texts huh

>>215893296
www.glownigger.com

>>215893321
You're cringey ew bye bye

>>215893296
torrents are up quickly on priv trackers
then someone will post a gofile link

>>215893327
Doesn't let me in for some reason.
Know any other stream sites?

>>215893303
nice hope you're right

>>215893336
>ew
who's texting like a woman, now?

>>215893363
Just so u understand

>>215893382
Shower and bed. So you understand

>>215893346
nigga, just use yandex to search whatever you want to watch.

guys kiss this is cute

Really hard to imagine this show actually being compelling into a 2nd season, the 2nd episode already started to feel slightly gimmicky.

>>215893393
Good night femboy

>>215893503
>ew bye bye
Don’t forget your to take your estrogen, pussy.

doomed yaoi

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https://x.com/adarwinq/status/1987294465627717823

this Plumbus show sucks Morty

>>215891130
yes that's clearly the case and it's clearly been thought out

>it's the Plur1bus Finale
>Carol is gonna become Heisencarol
>she will grab an ice cream truck or anything with a speaker
>drives around and yells "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER"
>mass murders millions
>they have enough of her and try to kill her
>noone can get close without causing global seizures
>millions die every minute
>at last some hivemind drone can get close enough and kills Carol
>afterwards it turns out they were unaffected because at that point all black consciousnesses were already dead
>Carol is dead but changed the hive forever

bravo Vince

Ok, so the information provided by the hivemind are false. It's the only way to make this show interesting considering the reduced cast.

>Option A
There are more survivors, there's more to seizures than we were previously told, there are actual scientific explanations, "it doesn't work like that actually"(tm)... This is only to fill up the major plot holes from these 2 episodes. This is just plain bad writing.

>Option B
The hivemind is lying about the survivors, possibly the state of the world and its intentions. Without any clues in these 2 episodes this is a literral asspull. Of course we could have been more skeptical of a hivemind but there was a necessary suspension of desbielief for a scifi show. Gilligan abused it and it's extremely dishonnest.

>>215892844
You're an easily impressed retard

>>215890215
>Is this what every white woman thinks?
yup.

>>215890215
>only person you can talk to is Chat GPT hivemind

>>215892081
The hivemind is incapable of empathy for the simple reason it will never perceive danger the same way as Carol does.
>Pirate lady loses a limb
>oh... nvm just assign her to a task she can perform without it
>Carol loses a limb
>FUCK FUCK FUCK I will never be able ti do this or that anymore, I am forever FUCKED

Therefore, the hivemind motives are not driven by empathy. At best they are joining-oriented, at worst based on a level of thinking so alien to an individual it's best to assume hostility for yout own self-preservation.

tl;dr the hivemind is dangerous because it's different

>>215893776
>/tv/ easily writes better episode than Vince

>>215893776
I FOUGHT THE LAW

>>215890215
seems like it would get boring after a month

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>>215890215
Fuck you, psychopathic Other scum
kill Others

>>215892172
I don't think the mother was stupid so much as wanting to imagine her son was still with her. It's delusional optimism.

Similar to that other girl that was wanting to be connected to all her family without any regard to how she could be losing her entire identity.

>>215892320
If it didn't need these immunes it'd be letting them die or actively trying to put them down in order to prevent them being a danger.

Which I think is the main conflict in the show. As the hivemind doesn't currently seem like it has anything it's really trying to do other than just go through the motions of trying to act 'normal' for the immunes. So I think they need something or someone to give it direction which could eventually lead to those immunes coming into conflict with each other as they'd have conflicting ideas of what that Hivemind should actually be doing with itself.

>>215890215
you have materialistic brain

>>215890854
They were just misunderstood

>>215890934
>the furtherance of my goals
Digging a giant and conplex tunnel system under my house?

>>215891130
Yes
Therefore the sandnog is extremely fucking gay

>>215892820
you cant know something that hasnt yet happened
taking the concept at face value that there is no king hivemind entity puppeteering the hive, that inherently means each unit of the hive is determining their own actions....
now in so far as their reasoning will differentiate from everyone else of the same knowledge, the difference of individual reasoning would be extremely minimal but it wouldnt be identical unless everyone was neurologically and metabolically exact clones, and there is not only no evidence for that claim but also evidence to the contrary (the boy example bein the most blatant with his tiny frontal lobe)

>>215895314
You have materialistic body.

>>215892004
I don't think happy is a word you can use here desu
It appears friendly and cordial, but I doubt it feels any actual emotion at all. It probably doesn't experience the chemicals in the brain the same way

>>215892081
Anon NGE covered this three decades ago

>>215893121
im pretty sure a hivemind of billions knows how to lie bro, if everyone who died during joining didnt know how to lie thered be less than a million, it's a stock standard human skill.

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>>215892332
I simply think you're wrong based off what has been presented so far in the show. Pluribus is not human and it's not individual humans sharing one mind. It is one mind in itself that uses humans as a vessel to grow
I'm predicting that the reason they don't kill animals is because animals, too, can be apart of the hivemind and are either now apart of it or will be subsumed when pluribus grows to a certain stage in development (as another anon has said, it's basically an infant now). Afterall, the whole thing started in a rat

>>215894288
the title of the show clues me to believe the number of immune is true (the 13 numerology of e pluribus unum)

it's definitely already lied to them though, bro really said your body your choice queen right after they forcefed billions.

>>215892485
>Carol has to raise a shota and repopulate the earth with HUMANS before her eggs dry up

>>215890215
>oh no I have to write books that millions of people love my life is so horrible because I couldn't make them lesbians
quintessential middle class women problems.

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>>215892939
>SANDNOG
LUST
>PAJEETA
INDIAN
>CAROL
DYKE
>VINCE
BRAVO

>>215894445
why are you assuming it wouldnt have empathy? once again its amalgamation of humans with empathy.... in fact i would fully expect with the gained knowledge of the pov of billions of others that formerly low empathy individuals are now as part of the hive much more capable of empathy than they ever could have been.

your example of losing an arm btw isnt even connected properly to the concept of empathy.... yes someone in the hive losing an arm might not have much of a reaction to it in their trancendent worldview.... that doesnt mean they somehow magically lack the empathy o know the same situation for one of the immune would be a horror.

>>215895570
>I'm predicting that the reason they don't kill animals is because animals, too, can be apart of the hivemind
thats already known, proven by the first labrats, its why the animals are freed and not being killed yes

but how does that help your case of theor being some alien motherbrain embedded in it???

>>215895685
That was not my theory and idk where you saw it in my post
I entered the thread half an hour ago after having just watched the two episodes tonight because I forgot it began airing

This show is another case of a dumb person writing a smart character, but this may be the worst example yet because the hivemind is the most intelligent thing in existence.
This thing knows everything you can possibly know and it's skilled in everything. Any problem can be solved with 8 billion brains processing it with the help of the smartest people in the world.
Yet the hivemind acts like some idiot retard. The hivemind has access to the most charismatic people in the world, psychologists, actors, yet it acts like a barely functioning autistic robot. The hivemind can't even act and put on a performance, it can't be charismatic and act human. It can pick out a person in the world who looks like her book character, but it can't give that body any personality so that she is more likely to enjoy her company.
This is the smartest thing in existence and they couldn't figure out how to get animals from the zoo to their habitat without any casualties. It just set the animals free and then a bunch of them died.
This thing knows that millions of people will die if Carrol shouts at them, but it does nothing to prepare itself for it. The hivemind doesn't really need to drive or fly much and all the roads should be empty. If it is delivering important cargo it can easily stop or slow down on the empty roads. The hivemind can't even just sit down when it sees that Carrol is getting upset.

This will be a problem every episode. The hivemind is stupid. The only way Vince can show that the hivemind is impressive is by having random people fly planes and have instant access to wikipedia.

>>215895708
>>215895685
if animals were part of the hivemind the lions wouldn't have mauled humans

>>215895711
The hivemind is NOT the smartest thing ever tho
It is exactly as smart as the smartest person on the planet. Adding two smart people together doesn't suddenly double how smart each of them are. Infact, if it worked like that, you would have to consider that most people in the world are retarded as fuck and it's actually completely accurate for pluribus to be a retard because of the billions of 60iq shitskins """""""""knowledge""""""""" dragging it down. Its IQ is literally exactly 100 dude. It is fucking stupid and that's not bad writing

>>215895754
Yes, I agree, but I think animals COULD be apart of it, like the rat it all began with, or when they figure out how to spread the RNAjizz to the specific animals in a way it will accept. Again, im thinking it has some kind of innate knowledge built in(they said it's ayylmao technology btw) that allows them to be slightly forward thinking and it will probably have to grow to the point where it can subsume animals, thus, now, it's preparing them for it

>>215895757
Insane cope.

>>215895757
>only 0.01% of the population knows how to fly planes
>therefore the average doesn't know how to fly a plane
>so the hivemind can't fly planes
>I am smart

>>215895754
that factoid doesn't really matter after viewers were given firsthand observation of the labrat tricking the lab scientists into becoming infection vectors, it's not even debatable that animals are in the hive, they were the first in it...

and that information secondhand so there is a bunch of options as to what it means...
he either made it up, or he misinterpreted their actions (a lion being tactile with someone at all could be misconstrued as a violent mauling), or its true but the lion was immune or not yet infected.

Can't wait for le epic Aaron Paul appearance. Maybe even hecking Odenkirk.

>>215895711
Yeah, when you start to nitpick the show really falls apart. I just hope they can be bold with the premise and really squeeze it in interesting ways. But, to be honest, I dont see they being able to. I will stick until im bored, which may happen soon.

>>215895757
You're dumber than people writing but thats good news. The show is made for people like you, so you'll have a blast. Enjoy It.

just watched both episodes. holy shit this show is so... bad

>>215895876
See you tomorrow for episode 3, buddy

>>215895823
You're making assumptions about how it works
You're assuming it IS the smartest thing ever instead of using your eyes and ears to take in what the show actually presents, which is that it's an insanely flawed entity with massive issues that it's barely able to conceal. It literally doesn't even know how it itself works
At no point did the show ever state that it is the smartest thing ever. It itself states that it is, but its actions prove otherwise. This isn't bad writing. Imagine if Carol had said she sucks my cock on the daily and loves taking my cum down her throat, then ignored me and dived straight into muff for a 12h clam slamming session. That isn't bad writing. That's a character being wrong or lying about something

>>215895845
My point went right over your head, but that's okay

>>215895899
>>215895909
Low IQ cultists have arrived

Anyone tried to twerking to the theme song yet, I'm having trouble getting my right cheek to pop correctly towards the end it's pissing me off honestly.

>>215895757
>It is exactly as smart as the smartest person on the planet.
.....on every subject

supposedly.... this flattening of it though does in fact miss the idea that not everything that people are In the business of being smart about is proven or even provable..... Carol throwing "joining" back at the hive as a pathetic name for ot by the smartest marketers on the planet is exactly a case of this concept.

what would be interesting to know is how much debate and argument is going on under the hood on these no clear answer issues.... we only see the product at the end and so can assume a neatly tied singularity brain but the realistically the reality would be a raging internet forum of internal debate on many many things

>>215895944
It's basically a 4chan rolling sticky on the worst board

>>215895944
Autist can't recognize self-referential quirky writing. Carol made fun of the joining comment because it's Vince laughing at his own writing, it has no relevance to the story.
He makes fun of himself because he couldn't come up with a good PR statement. You can expect a lot of the flaws of the hivemind to get dismissed with a quick chungus ''casanova mcboner'' style of comments.

The show itself starts with a major plot hole: If the hivemind cant willingly hurt anybody, how the first rat was able to bite the scientist?

is there any place to discuss pluribus with people who watched it without scrolling tiktok, instagram or jerking off? half of the discussion here is just reiterating simple scenes that happened in TWO episodes to someone oblivious.

>>215895708
>it's not individual humans sharing one mind. It is one mind in itself that uses humans as a vessel to grow
thats an alien motherbrain youre describing in your theory

When does the big naked teenager show up?
https://youtu.be/3vbV5kXSYKE?si=YmWB0AeDCL_FgQG5

>>215896061
at that moment, it was a hivemind of exactly 1, and that particular mind was that of a rat. it hadn't considered the moral quandary of causing harm to another living creature.

>>215893776
I don't think the seizures kill the hive.
Not directly.
Zosia has been in Carol's presence when they happen, and you'd think ground zero would be the most dangerous place to be, right?
I think Carol loses it and screams at them, triggering the seizures, and the ones who die are the ones who were doing something where having a seizure would cause them to die.
Like driving a car, or climbing a ladder. They get into an accident, or fall off of the ladder.
Just like Carol's girlfriend didn't die of the seizure/freezing/infection.
She fell and smacked the shit out of her head. Brain trauma.
Every time Carol screams at the hive, they freeze up. All of them. The ones operating machinery or in a vehicle die.
Just like the billion people who died during initial infection. They were in cars or shit like that, operating machinery. We saw Zosia getting the burnt guy out of the car. We saw the dead cops with their patrol car flashers going, obviously in high speed pursuit when the seizure infection took place.
I'm not saying that the infection of the hivemind virus is incapable of being fatal to some people.
Just that the vast majority who die are likely operating equipment that needs constant attention or it kills the operator.

>>215896061
Yeah, they could have used dogs for the experiment and somehow the dog licking the scientist or something. I dont know how to explain the rat bite.

>>215896061
It wasnt a hibemind until there were two people
>>215896067
Okay, fair enough
I think it is an ayy lmao invasion, after all it was ayy lmao technology from le space that started this. I think eventually ayy lmaos are going to show up and connect earf to itself, which is also a hivemind

>>215896096
>dogs don't bite

You absolutely sheltered, oblivious buffoon.

>>215896061
where did it say it cant hurt anyone? it murdered millions with its predictably dangerous uncontrolled mass infection methods
and the ratty had no choice btw, it had to pierce the remaining latex glove

>>215891811

At first I read this and was like "Heh, that's funny...". Then I realised when Carol first turned on the TV she was adressed by the "Under Secretary of Agriculture for Farm Production and Conservation" because that was the highest ranking politician that survived the transition.

>>215896091
Wrong. Not hurting anybody is not a ethical choice for the hivemind. Theyre hardwired to not being able to. If that was the case, they would just kill the immune and get on with It.

>>215896130
wrong on all accounts, they can kill no problem, they're choosing not to.

>>215896110
No, idiot. The point is that the dog could spread the virus without being agressive, which is established that something the hivemind cant do.

>>215896150
>>215896130
If it's primary purpose is self preservation and self expansion, as most living things are, then it would make logical sense to kill carol because she caused millions of units to die with her outbursts. It's logical AND the morally right thing to do because it would prevent the potential loss of millions at the cost of one person

>>215896113
Have you seen the show?

>>215896169
established by literally who?
they spent the majority of the first 2 episode screentime on cleaning up the bodies of the people who died during non-consensual mass infection.

>>215896169
Nta, but the hivemind had SAID that it's something it cant do. But it saying that isn't necessarily true. It also said that carol's life is her own but it didn't give her an answer when she asked "what happens when I say no?"
Why do you trust what it says?

>>215895847
I don't know if the rat tricked them so it could bite them.
It's possible that the rat, and other animals, when they get infected, freeze up like the humans do.
It won't make them any smarter, and when an animal wakes up from being drugged it can be quite violent.
Mickey Mouse was probably licking his water bottle, froze up, and the next thing he knew he was being squeezed by a giant.
So, he bit the giant, transferring the virus.
The virus clearly does not work on animals, but is transmissible by them.
Because the rat would not have bit the scientist, and the lions would not have mauled anyone if it did. No violence allowed.
Therefore, the hive is lying about it's capability to perform violence, or the virus does not include animals into the hivemind.
A programmed refusal to commit acts that cause pain on other beings has to be universal. The human members of the hivemind refuse to hurt animals even to eat them. The inverse would have to be true also if the virus works on animals.
Now, if animals can be carriers and not affected by the virus...

>>215895796
I think the rat was just a rat that got sick and bit when it woke up, not part of the hivemind, that's why they didn't mention the spams

>>215896181
that is an unexplained but what is explained is they have the objective to "fix" the immunity.
why they put value on researching the anomaly and solving it rather than simply eradicating it is probably that it's the smart thing to do for long term... being willfully ignorant might simply not be the go to survival mechanism for billions of humans in aggregate like it is individually for you

>>215896258
We simply don't know if the animals can be affected by it or are just carriers at this point
I think they can eventually be, even if they aren't yet, and that's why pluribus has a built in vegan mode
But this brings up another issue, which is how is it going to keep its entire population healthy if it refuses to eat meat, which the human body needs to be in peak condition? If it can assimilate animals, how is it going to take care of the carnivores, who exclusively eat meat to survive?

>>215896258
so you think its purely a coincidence that ratty did a complex series of actions that tricked the researcher into a vulnerable posiion that enabled them to be infected.... and after that do you think that researcher coincidentally wanted a kissy and accidentally spread it? and then they coincidentally liked doughnuts and cheek swabbed for petri dishes and....

this might mot be the show for you

>>215896181
>because it would prevent the potential loss of millions
Carol killed 0.15% or less of the plurb with her outburst, that's the equivalent of a rough cut on someone's body.
Humanity's fertility level is currently 385,000ish births per day. If it's worried about its level of productivity, then enough children will come of age to be useful to it in about a month, similar to a mildly sprained ankle.
Are you going to gun down your friend for accidentally spraining your ankle as a matter of self preservation?

>>215892939
Holyy shit

>>215896277
True. It could also be thinking that if it doesn't "fix" carol and the others then it would have no way of knowing how to deal with a potential break-away from the hivemind, which, I think, is absolutely going to happen at some point in the show, and will probably be the season 1 finale with carol finding a way to "free" someone

>>215892320
>they're as inconsequential as 11 individual cells in your body.
11 mutated cells is enough for cancer to develop

>>215896356
>Cancer is bad

It's literally apart of your immune system.

>>215896318
>a complex series of actions
It seized up, then bit someone when it awoke. That's not complex at all. We're only seeing it happen because it was the one time out of likely half a dozen prior situations where the virus was able to successfully transfer to a human because of their carelessness.

>>215896323
Fair point to look at it like that. Counterpoint that is not directly a counterargument
>a 5'4" blonde woman screams at you
>millions of your units die
Nice fucking hivemind you have there, retard. I get the feeling that if carol actually brutally murders one unit, the entire population would be halved

>>215896195
I swear, this thread is plaged by midwits. But thats my fault. This show is obviusly aimed towards the midwit, I should know better.

Imbecile, the people died because at the time of the infection, theyre most likely doing something dangerous, not because they were direct killed by some unit.

But if youre saying that the hivemind is an hipocrite, then Its another problem, but it further reiterates the shows plotholes

Inb4 the virus itself gets infected with twerk-o-genics and can't stop throwin' its booty around.

>>215892732
>This show is based, bravo vince
>MC is a dyke
The show is woke, booo! vince

>>215896315
>how is it going to take care of the carnivores, who exclusively eat meat to survive?
in the short-to-mid term: flesh donations.
in the long term they would need to ramp up cloned flesh generation (we literally do this already, its only a little scifi in that it isnt an everyday thing yet)

>215895570
>>215896369
Please learn the difference between "a part" and "apart"

>>215896429
No... are you going to cry now ?

>>215896375
It's definitely a serious weakness of theirs, and I would hope to see it learn to act differently with Carol (as much as it can with the plurb being such a social fuckup) in the next episodes. Maybe walking a little more on eggshells, like someone who's learning their close friend can be abusive.
Even if it's not a matter of self preservation to it, perhaps it'll be concerned that danger could befall the other survivors in its care when driving or flying them around.

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>>215896448
That's not how that image is used, you jumped ahead thinking you had an epic pwn up your sleeve, but you biffed it, babe.

>>215896405
We see that most people died because of them doing something dangerous while it happened. But we also saw some people just straight up fall over and bonk their heads. Standing isn't dangerous. Millions died because they fell over from the seizures themselves
Also nice plebbit spacing bro

>>215896315
I think that the hivemind know that they only need to survive long enough until being able to transmit the signal so other civilization picks up. After they doing It, they just fuck off and die

>>215896405
by the time the hive was running mass infection initiatives it had more than enough high intelligence people to predict the deaths gat would be caused by their actions and then ran it anyway.

you cant be a superintelligence and then handwave away culpability for that. so i think you have the wrong idea of what their priorities are.

>>215896318
There is nothing complex going on. The rat froze up, and fought back the moment it woke up.
It then ran from the other scientist. Logically, it should have ran TOWARDS the uninfected scientist if it wanted to spread the virus.
Instead, we get the most nonathletic skinny retard trapping the rat with a bowl in ten seconds.
As for the rest of your statement, you're a fucking idiot. The infected scientist could have bit the uninfected scientist to spread it. But saliva contact was enough. As per the refusal to commit violence.
The infection from rat bite indicates that animals are likely just carriers, and some or all species freeze up for a few minutes when infected and then wake up disoriented.

Anyone else doing a Pluritwerk until the next ep drops ?

So are animals part of the hive mind or not?

>>215896461
>some people just straight up fall over and bonk their heads.

So...? That still a casualty.

>>215896483
>Logically, it should have ran TOWARDS the uninfected scientist if it wanted to spread the virus.
why would it run to the fully suoted up scientist it has no chance of infecting when it has already infected one that it knows will take up the effort to infect in its place, it did its best action of hiding so it can act as a possible backup infection vector if the human fails to spread it further.

>>215896481
The easiest answer is that they're simply lying about not causing harm and their unwillingness to do so. There is likely a reason they want to "fix" the immune instead of killing them, which we can only speculate on. Their insistence to not kill feels insincere and it sounds like the kind of thing they would think to tell the remaining humans in order to appear good and wholesome and please let us study you so we can forcibly join you like we forcibly joined everyone else. Forced assimilation is violence. It's that simple. So when it says that it doesn't do violence, it's lying or it's wrong about itself

>>215896481
So its either a plot hole or the hivemind is liying. Its too early to tell, but my bet iits a plothole

>>215896510
Yes. I dont understand what we are disagreeing about here
?

>>215892732
Yep im liking so far too
>worst character is smug jeeta who tries to act smarter than white mc

>>215896502
yes. only idiots who cant take a blatant onscreen hint much less consider he origin of the infection-device would think otherwise.

>>215890215
They killed her gf. Also that's addressed as the 5 other english speakers don't try to challenge the situation.

Although I wonder when the 3 asians will realize their family members have become shells of their previous selves. The part when Carol asked the little Pajeet about genocology to taunt his mom was hilarious.

>>215895633
Empathy is mirroring someone else's pain or anticipated pain. (Not just physical pain). By design the hivemind can't perceive pain the same way we do. With this I establish it is incapable of acquiring empathy toward us.

Now, about what it already has. Maybe it has the collection of individual memories categorizing those pains but its consciousness is no longer capable to relate to those the same way as before.

It's you who makes empathy sound like it would magically transfer to the hivemind. For en entity to develop empathy toward a specific subject there are prerequisites.

The hivemind is different. Therefore it is evil.

>>215895941
>>215896408
>>215896498
Stop trying to make pluribus twerking a thing, no one will twerk to pluribus

>>215896519
Since you are assigning high intelligence to the rat, how did it get trapped under a bowl by a retard that kept tripping over his own feet?
Not very good at keeping away so it can be a backup infection vector.
Or maybe it was just a rat that woke up from a drugged stupor, pissed off and bit the person manhandling it.
Either way, animals are not affected by the virus. Because if they were, biting people would not be allowed.

>>215896521
At some point it will be revealed that theyre using corpses to make onions green

>>215896546
>Virus doesn't allow it's host to cause pain.
>Lions maul the humans freeing them.
There's a hole in your logic somewhere.

>>215896593
Shallots!

>>215896599
Those lions could have been immune like carol was

>>215896568
It's basically an entity that has access to 7 billion hard drives. All data, zero feelings. And imo the seizures happen when Carol's provocations resonate with what's left of individuality in their brain, deep down everyone wants to get out of this nightmare.

>>215896568
that is not empathy thats sympathy
empathy is understanding a persons emption
sympathy is feeling an emotion that the person thinks to be a replication of an emotion they are witnessing

which btw are independent of one another, you can be empathetic without sympathy ("he has a cold exterior but a big heart") or sympathetic without empathy (a sociopath emulating others behaviors)

>>215896481
Rather than immediately going down the "It's lying" route, it's easy enough to handwave culpability from the plurb's point of view if you assume it has these two beliefs:
>"Stepping on insects is regrettable but impossible to avoid completely" suggests their morals are focused on avoiding directly harming others with intention
>It considers destroying someone's identity and bringing them into the hivemind as an act of love/biological imperative/not harmful at all
During their infection campaign, they would've gained enough smart people to not only plot out that the chemtrails idea would cause widespread death, but also that the alternatives could be worse. The military being close to discovering the plurb would necessitate worldwide war (if the plurb is actually capable of violence for the sake of self preservation in its early stages) or a slow death (if it can't fight back directly and has to continue a guerilla campaign of person to person infection while the governments of the world set up extreme authoritarian measures to root it out)
If it has enough smart people to run the numbers, it could've found that the chemtrails was the option with the least suffering, quickest success (giving it the most bodies to work with), and highest chance of survival, and is still consistent enough with its morals to satisfy it, as it's not directly causing harm to others with intent, just spreading the joining.

>>215896599
>>215895847

>>215896636
I'm going to empathize my cock into rhea's pussy if you sympathize with what I mean

Since they sprayed the virus everywhere, are rats part of the hivemind, or do they have own hivemind? Are other species close to humans affected? Is that the reason they don't eat meat as they are one with other species ?

>>215896681
During the dinner scene in episode 2 the other survivors confirm that animals are immune to the virus as the released zoo animals acted normally, including big cats mauling some of the hivemind's bodies.

>>215896659
taking the leap of faith that it isnt lie-lying its just self-delusional then..... theres plenty one can self-delude to make just about any act permissible..... including murder including lying etc etc

thats the exact same endpoint but now just an argument of personality.

>>215896681
Brother we have been talking about this all thread and we have not come to a consensus
There are 3 camps of thought
>1) animals are apart of the hivemind, which is why the rat bit the first bitch, to spread. Some facts that dispute this are that violence is seemingly verboten as an action, yet the rat bit. How can he bit?
>2) animals can be carriers for it but are not affected themselves. This solves the first issue of "violence" to a certain extent, but it's by far the least intresting conclusion and the least likely as well
>3) animals can theoretical be apart of the hivemind, which is the reason pluribus does not kill, it would be killing itself, but there are some issues in that they need to be integrated more scientifically rather than through sheer spreading, meaning that the RNA virus needs to be able to "latch onto" the animals in a different manner than it did to humans. Signs that point this are that they ran the RNA among a bunch of different species and pluribus only "manifested" in the rats (if it had appeared earlier, surely the guinnee pigs, for example, would have spread it given the first opportunity)

>>215896701
thats your own dumb interpretation though.
in the first place even if you are willing to ignore the entire ratty scene.... the source of the RNA Is 600 light years away and an unknown amount of time in the past, potentially millions of years in the past.... you think the most intelligent lifeform that evolved there was also somehow humans? or that they for some unknown reason without any possible.contact constructed an RNA that discriminates specifically to only infect humans?

or is the more likely case it infects all animals, of which humans are one.

>>215890356
Based

>>215890215
>Is this what every white woman thinks?
it's a fictional character, you mentally ill incel.

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Holy shit
How has NO ONE realized this before
>PLUR-1-BUS
WTFFFFFF

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>>215895462
hating on /ourguy/ is reddit coded

>>215892939
>13 survivors
>7 sins
nigga what

>>215896853
Reddit hates him because they think he's a rapist
I hate him because he's brown
We. Are. Not. The. Same.

>>215896716
Going with the idea that it's top priority is not harming others as it spreads, it definitely seems capable of manipulation and lying for their sake. It's socially manipulating all the survivors with the bodies it chooses to keep around them, and it avoided the truth when it thought the true number of deaths would hurt Carol.
At the same time, it's not even close to a master manipulator. It fucks up regularly, like disturbing Carol with the whole group of bodies all saying the same thing at once (seemingly a reflex? It avoids doing so in focused conversations) or having the jeet kid get all creepy when Carol baited the plurb to prove a point.

>>215890263
What episode does Kim show butthole ?

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If I were the plurb I would talk in unison on purpose because it would make me look cool

So is this just a Rick and Morty episode?

>>215896909
Vanity, all is vanity.

>>215896780
>thats your own dumb interpretation though.
The animals literally mauled other plurbs and then went off and did animal things. If the intention was to explain to the audience that animals are either part of the hivemind or have hiveminds among their own species, that would have been communicated to the audience via the survivors witnessing odd behavior in the released zoo animals.
We know for a fact that the virus can spread to other animals but between the zoo animals and the months of carefully studying multiple species in laboratory conditions, it's fair to say that nobody has witnessed any animal behave differently with the virus inside them. It's a good thing that they don't as well, as it could well cause the entire extinction of the planet.

>or that they for some unknown reason without any possible.contact constructed an RNA that discriminates specifically to only infect humans?
It only seems to activate in humans, at least, which would suggest that there's something that sets us apart from other animals. That the pluribus psychically seizes up in the presence of extreme negative emotions might mean that other species aren't emotionally mature enough / don't have developed enough brains for the virus to activate something in their biology to form psychic links. This wouldn't exactly stand up to scrutiny as several species are known to be quite emotional and socially intelligent, but that's a conceit of the writing.
As for why aliens would broadcast out an RNA sequence that only affects certain species, there's one of two possibilities:
>The signal was a relay from one of many converted species, so they understand enough about cross-species infection to trust that eventually someone will pick up the broadcast, create it, and get plurb'd
>The signal was the first attempt at infecting another species, and the creators didn't know if it would work on others or not but it might as well construct the operation as it's got nothing better to do.

>>215890263
kim went to greendale?

>>215896868
>seemingly a reflex? It avoids doing so in focused conversations
Might be one of those things that depends on how much attention it's paying at the nodes
The immune company nodes get heavy attention from it while others get something more difuse so they slip up more
>>215896913
No piss, poop or vomit and the main character is powerless compared yo the antag instead of a god so not really

>>215890215
>Inb4 the end of the show is some big "humanity test to see if they are good lol" moment which we almost fail but le main character convinces ayylmaos to spare us and the hivemind breaks
Screenshot this.

>>215897072
Didnt Star Trek already do that with Q ?

>>215897209
>Didnt Star Trek already do that
The answer is usually yes when this question comes up

>>215897209
Possibly, I've never seen Star Trek outside of the 2009 movie.

>>215890215
did the writers already figure out the mystery/ending? cause if not fuck off

>>215896405
>an hipocrite
>plaged by midwits
>theyre most likely doing something dangerous
Hypocrite.
Plagued.
Standing is apparently dangerous.
You're in no position to call anyone a midwit, you illiterate fucking zoomie

>final episode
>carol turns to zosia
>"pinoccchio says 'my nose will grow now' "
>"what.. we don't even.. what..? impossib.. no.. sldfkjlskdfj.. AAAAARGH..!
>the curse is lifted and humanity is restored

>one year later
>cut to a familiar looking lab rat
>"THE END..?" text on screen while rat starts to walk towards unsuspecting humans

>>215897264
>Vince Gilligan sees 'Pluribus' running for 4 Seasons: "I'd love to see it go as long as Rhea Seehorn wants it go ... I'm really doing it for her. She deserves to be the megastar that she is"
Either he's got an idea for an ending and a framework of plot points across 4 seasons that leads up to it (which would be an extreme rarity as far as screenwriting goes) or it's not really about the mystery at all and more about exploring character dynamics, which seems much more like Vince Gilligan.

The giraffe would not go away when the chink shooed it away, therefore the animals are not part of the hivemind. You may stop arguing otherwise now.

>>215897341
ok I will now bother to invest my time in this show

So vince benchodposted and just got away with it??

>>215896636
I was reffering to something else apparently. The term mirror was misused and ended up giving the wrong idea.

I was under the assumption that only a being capable of understanding someone emotions can be worth asking oneself "can I trust it?". I was clearly not thinking about sociopaths.

However by "understanding one's emotions" I mean capable of imagining the effect those emotions would have one yourself. Something the hivemind is incapable of.

>>215890215
>"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM A WAHMEN DYKE HAG AND I SCREECH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

briliant

wtf is an apple TV? yeah I am good. my reddit downvotes are too low for t his one

>>215890227
she was only 1097

>pajeet rapist

Impressive they allowed this.

>>215892251
Hes not Indian, hes a French north African

>>215897929
>>rapist
holy reddit

>>215897898
Idk I never even look up streaming service names, easier to get any show on my usual torrent tracking site

>>215897937
i will cook your intestine through your asshole you bloody benchod, you son of a whore. i will

>>215897958
ext(dot)to ftw

>>215890854
they were like that because of socioeconomic factors

>>215897929
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>>215890215
I wanna see something like this happen:
>The host that follows Carol about gets injured in some way or form
>Through some contrivance, Carol ends up donating blood to it (maybe she was the nearest compatible body, etc.)
>This creates a kind of isolated host that is a new being entirely, disconnected from the hivemind and yet not quite the original body's mind
>Central conflict is around the host developing a sense of self, and the hivemind grappling with an actual existential threat (and not just a loss of biomass)

>>215898316
I wanna see something like this happen
>Rhea enters my bedroom
>straddles me and starts grinding on my rock hard cock
>inserts my weewee into her veevee and rides wildly while forcing my hands to grip her breasts and hips and thighs, etc.
>I cum and it's an expression of love (not just an expulsion of biomass)

>>215895757
this has to be bait lmao this post is so confidently retarded I'm cackling

>>215895532
You're a drooling retard and I don't feel like dumbing down my explanation of how what you just said is retarded.

>>215890215
Just checked it out
>humans get a positive alien technosignature
>that technosignature is the DNA sequence for a virus
>not only do they MAKE the virus but it's some random fucking lab in the middle of a regular city
>a containment breach occurs and the infected individual is immediately taken outside the quarantine zone
>virtually no oversight, surveillance, a nuclear warhead on site in case of a breach, etc, for a virus that fucking ALIENS told us to build
I will not be watching this show. The fact that the way this virus ends up infecting the world is so mind numbingly retarded tells me the rest of the show will be equally retardedly written. GGs

>>215898316
>>Carol ends up donating blood to it (maybe she was the nearest compatible body, etc.)
this premise would never work. some other drone would give her the blood or even better the hive just lets pirate lady die. it's not like it cares. they will just find another similar looking chick

>>215890854
The hivemind operates on adequacy, not lunacy. Hope this helps.

what im curious about is whether the broadcast was directed at humans in particular or was it just a random thing that we happened to pick it up

>>215898702
>voyager record ref in the first episode
it wasn't directed at us, we just picked it up.

>>215898657
this. anything based on a stupid premise will be inevitable stupid going forward, and wast your time

>>215898657
They can't come up with clever ways to progress plots anymore so it's just
>m8 wot if ppl were retarded init?

https://www.aparat.com/v/c82bu9m

Jews are ruining Iranian cinema.

Not only there's an implied kissing scene, she asks her at the end "Are you gay?".

There's no homosexuality in Iran. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I wish swift death for all Jews who are corrupting the morality of Iranian youth by making these movies.

(I don't know the story of this movie, I don't know why there's Hitler in it, don't ask).

>>215898657
Its similar to the pilot of Breaking Bad which was paced retardedly fast and his conversion from meek school teacher to murdering drug cook was expedited to fit in one episode. they use the countdown timeline to show us that it took months for the virus to slowly plan its attack and take out hard-to-reach targets first before the military found out and they were forced to use their worldwide chemtrail plan. The most complicated stuff happened off screen because its hard to write and they needed the total takeover to fit in the pilot.

>>215898657
also
>a containment breach occurs and the infected individual is immediately taken outside the quarantine zone
It is very clearly shown that the security at night was lax and this testing process was months deep so they were just going through the motions. The entire building got infected before the bite could be reported to any outside authorities.
>not only do they MAKE the virus but it's some random fucking lab in the middle of a regular city
This is a fair point but I do not put it past humanity to dive face first into something as exciting as an alien dna signature desu

>>215899271
I appreciate you trying to defend the show in good faith anon but I need you to understand how divorced from reality the process is
for one thing, a confirmed alien technosignature would immediately get blackbagged by the military, let alone if the radio sequence was broadcasting instructions for the construction of a fucking virus. And they would NEVER actually make the virus without first 1. running as advanced a simulation as possible on what the virus would look like/do, and 2. if they do build the virus, it will be in a bunker complex hundreds of meters underground with several nuclear warheads as containment failsafe. Doesn't matter if the research has been going on for months without yielding results, this shit would be under lock and key. Even assuming things progress to the point it does in the intro of episode three -
1. the researcher wouldn't be handling the rat without protective gloves
2. the moment she gets bitten, the skin breaks, and she starts acting irrational, the entire complex would go into lockdown and she certainly wouldn't be allowed to leave with the other dude (and arguably neither would the other dude)
3. there would almost certainly be someone externally observing the two while they work specifically to avoid the scenario described.

Idk man this shit is just too fucking retarded, I skipped ahead a bit to the chemtrails bit but I switched it off there, not gonna bother with this nonsense. I'm also somewhat disconcerted by how much positive attention this show is getting given it's 1. only got two episodes so far and 2. from the little I saw besides being retarded it was somehow very boring. How you make a hive mind from space boring is a mystery to me.

has episode 3 been broadcast?

>>215899402
you are correct about what you say. The fact the military didn't get involved until right before the chemtrails is unrealistic and the location of the tests is unrealistic as well. And I had not considered your points, so I may be a midwit in that aspect. If you get autistically hung up on things like this its best you dont bother. It's kind of retarded to call the show boring and dismiss wholly it if you stopped at the chemtrails, thats like halfway through the first episode.
Regarding the positive attention, it is riding off the love for Gilligans previous work so the viewership is higher than other new TV shows. And besides your issues with the realism, the show is quite thought provoking and intriguing so far, especially the things brought up in episode 2. Its a concept that makes people want to discuss it's implications and rules as you can see in these generals. Regardless of realism it is very interesting

>>215899601
I tend to get autistically hung up on shows getting shit wrong to be fair, but here I think it's justified because I really think the way this show starts is mind bogglingly retarded. Honestly though I'd be willing to forgive that and keep watching but it was also really fucking BORING. Nothing felt interesting. And again I really don't know how you can manage to make a space hive mind infecting earth boring. That and I genuinely couldn't care less about the main character. It's a drop for me. But again I look at reddit and people are treating it like the best thing since sliced bread, I feel like I'm going nuts. Not even one person point out how stupid the intro is.

>>215899656
boring is subjective. Your other critiques make much more sense to me than calling it boring. I didn't find it boring and most people dont as well so that might be a you thing. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with the mob. Also like BCS I have confidence in this show building upon its setups as the episodes go and getting more exciting later on. I may be wrong and the show may shit the bed but so far I like it

>>215899402
>running as advanced a simulation as possible on what the virus would look like/do
The virus is turning humanity into an instantly communicating singularity, it's clear it's well beyond humanity's ability to decode it.

>there would almost certainly be someone externally observing the two while they work specifically to avoid the scenario described.
Fully agree here, security and surveillance was nonexistent.

>>215899601
how much of the show did you actually watch anon? You said you stopped watching at the chemtrails bit, so the hivemind had not even happened yet

>>215899926
he is larping. Nobody is knee deep in generals arguing about a show they dont watch, at least I hope not

So are there no more wars? No one fighting for resources?
How about all the disadvantaged people who are forced to clean shit and mine for sulfer to make the world work, what are they all doing now?

>>215900006
Except for Rangz of Powah, there it was worth shitposting about snippets while ignoring the show.

>>215890356
Virgin

>>215900006
Nigga I'm not larping I said what I did: watched up until the chemtrails, concluded the writing was retarded, and stopped watching from there. that said I think >>215899926 meant to respond to >>215899402 as the person he responded to was not me but someone responding to me.

>>215890215
You must have missed out on the part where they want to absorb her into the hivemind as well.

>>215890215
Not sure how I'd feel. On the one hand:
>Most important individual on the planet
>Whole world exists to make you happy
>Can have pretty much anything just by asking, any amount of pleasure or hedonistic bliss
>No need to work or feel stress, nothing material ever out of reach

On the other:
>Really only two people left on the planet, one normal ass guy (you) and a godlike super entity with a billion faces
>Basically a kept pet to a god-being that is actively working to consume you
>Can never have privacy or intimate relationships ever again
>Can never hang out with loved ones, make new friends, start a new relationship, share a secret or private joke
>Hate speaking in public? Imagine the entire planet watching you every time you leave the house, forever

Given my introvert nature I'd probably lock myself in my home and ask it/them to keep bringing me food and whiskey until they find the "cure".
That or roleplay as a god-king with a harem of 1000 beautiful nude slaves to serve my every whim.

>>215899828
>The virus is turning humanity into an instantly communicating singularity, it's clear it's well beyond humanity's ability to decode it.
fair point, although I would say that 1. the military/scientists would suspect this anyway by default and 2. it would be all the more reason to subject this thing to the the most strict scrutiny and security possible before infecting a rat with it and then handling it manually. Hell the version of events they show in the film is still a pretty optimistic scenario, for all we know putting together the organism that the signal describes would lead to basically creating a "the thing" type organism that upon being introduced to a rat turns the rat into a violent autonomous biomass that brutally consumes and assimilates all life on earth (rather than just the more "peaceful" form of assimilation that the show presents)

>>215899601
I am mainly here to discuss the plot holes

>>215900340
>>Basically a kept pet to a god-being that is actively working to consume you
this bit confuses me about the premise, how can the hivemind simultaneously act all friendly, jovial, and pacifistic to the point of refraining from any and all violence, but also be actively trying to absorb you into the collective (having done the same to billions of humans already)? why wouldn't it instantly capture and sequester the remaining individuals, instead of letting them roam free to potentially cause harm to itself? It makes no sense to me

also do they clarify whether infected individuals are effectively "dead", or does their consciousness still live on trapped in their bodies?

>>215900383
There is no individuality. Think of the Buddhist nirvana. The ego that makes Man an individual was wiped out.

>>215900383
these are questions to be answered over the course of the show

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>>215890927
>Do we care when animals rape and murder one another?
yes we do
>but not the pets!
but we are the pets in this show.

>>215900673
No, humans aren't pets. They're a vessel.

>>215899402
The hivemind is just an excuse. The show was never about the logistics or the origin of the virus. It's about human drama. You people need to realize that.

>>215890215
>Everyone feels the same way about you and cares so much about how you feel
>They are always watching you and judging you
>They claim to be individuals, but all act the same and treat you the same way
>No one seems to have any independent thoughts or feelings
>You can't trust the intentions of anyone around you, it feels like they're all just trying to keep you happy
>You have access to anything you want, but feel completely alone and constantly "managed" by those around you
Is the whole thing a metaphor for being a celebrity?