Commander Kira Nerys EditionPreviously on /trek/: >>215873261
Never found her that attractive but I guess that's because I like actual women.
Voyager was such a wasted opportunity. The mixed crew and limited resources if actually depicted consistently would have made it so much better along with more multi episode arcs like season 4 of Enterprise.
star trek sex with shran
>Maybe we're going about this the wrong way. A direct assault seems unlikely to succeed. Pure tactics, psychology. That's how they solve problems. That's what we have to do.
>>215898165that's not Commander Kira you FUCKING idiot
>>215898497he didnt say that
>>215899100
>>215898211Battlestar Galactica and Stargate Universe were better implementations of that concept.
>start trek sex with shrimp
>>215898165Just how many Cardies did she kill?
>>215899574gorillions. also THIS is COMMANDER Kira
>>215898165>commander 'kill 'em on their knees' nerys
Sisko taught her well
>>215899188please saar i am very very sorry saar hello morning from bombay
>>215899775>schlockino>meh, ferengi are the highlight>rip tony todd>the only actually good doctor episode>schlockino
>>215899775That TNG episode was such trash. I'd take a season one/two jankfest over that snoozer any day.
brain and brain what is brain
>>215900031the one that's not pinky
>>215899437Battlestar Galactica was 100% garbage. It was a better implementation of JJ Abrams mystery box bullshit that went nowhere and made no sense.
>>215900720>100% garbageNo, BSG has a lot of good things going for it. I love how militaristic it is.I'd say it's like 30% garbage. That's still a lot.
>>215899775>T'pol: Outta my way helmsman fucking shit WE GAANENTkino
>>215900755>pseudo-spiritual nonsense about Arrows and crap that never goes anywhere>Lee Adama slowly getting obese, until he becomes so fat he can win a court case just by crying like a bitch>All Along The Watchtower revealing the writers pulling literally everything out of their ass>Kate Vernon is Troi's Mom levels of obnoxiously unwatchable but she's THE FIFTH CYLON just becauseidk I hate that show with a passion, but you do you. I was just pointing out the irony of saying any show "wasted its potential" while insisting BSG was good.>I do wish they hadn't pushed Jeri Taylor off of VOY though, in retrospect it's clear that VOY goes off the rails a little when she leaves.
>>215900915Yes I'm aware of all those things but what I say is still true
>>215899775>Twilight >Travis dies early on so he's absent for the rest of the episode lol>the last humans settle on Ceti Alpha V
thinking if I should order a couple more Nacelle Weyouns so I can make a tableau with all 5 of them
>>215900969Please recreate the "Oh, hello." scene with Damar when you get them.
>>215901034i need Nacelle to make a Damar, which I'm sure they will at some point
>>215899437Probably why Moore did BSG after the Voyager debacle. Gonna do my show, gonna do it right. I know it's completely different but yeah man, one of the main things I'm dreading about finally watching Voyager is the episodic nature. That ship should be limping home, Ship of Theseus quality, been through HELL. I'm not looking forward to the slate being cleaned nearly every single episode to maintain "continuity."And don't give me that whole horseshit about syndication & not caring. They already had massive VHS/Laserdisc sales that backed up the people wanting consistency.
>>215900008You gotta watch it as a two parter with the voyager follow up episode with the two ferengi in the delta quadrant. kino
>>215899775Spock's Brain is actually fun, compared to The Gift. The former is like watching the old Adam West Batman episodes, but in space. The latter has that awful actor stringing Troi along. I remember seeing him in LA Confidential too & his face is so fucking punchable.
>>215901092There's a lot to be said about the lack of stakes in Voyager but you people wanting it to be a constant miserable slog are wrong, that's not what Star Trek should be.
>>215901254I don't think anyone has ever said they wanted it to be a constant miserable slog
>>215899946>Living Witness isn't a good episode>Latent Image isn't a good episode>Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy isn't a good episode>Message in a Bottle isn't a good episodeDon't you EVER talk shit about The Doc ever again
>>215898165Genuinely can't fucking stand Kira. Her over-the-top expressive body language in every scene reminds me of stage actors in broadway musicals, like Newsies or something. I wish she'd been more subdued like the Kira from the alternate universe/dimension.
>>215901299She's just a fiery Bajoran filly who needed the gentle, but strong, hand of a handsome Cardassian man.
>>215901293"Year of Hell should have been the whole show, or at least a season or two" is said by lots of people
>>215901346i've been through this beofre its really not that complicated, makes things more difficult for the writers and show runner but it would make for a better show this is how it should work>ep: encounter anomoly which they escape but it drains energy>next ep: low on energy they encounter a race of space fairing traders shenanigans ensue in the end they get energy but have to fight of idk pirates which leaves them low on torpedos>next ep: hear a rumor of a advanced civilization that might be able to manufacture more torpedos, its a romance plot or something w/e in the end they are on their way to the advanced civilization>next ep: they meet the advanced civilization and try and barter for new torpedos etc, etc, etc. its not about being grimdark its about consequences, cause and effect
>>215901456But they did that, to some extent. There are several examples of intra-episode continuity. In the "7 of 9 #metoos a guy" episode Janeway says in her opening log that they're looking for weapons to defend against the Hirogen
>>215901295living witness was goodthe rest are meh bordering on overhyped
>>215901499they dropped it, and don't fucking mention the hirogen that is the worst possible example you could bring up, the 2 parter ruined the ship it was fubar and of course next ep pristine like nothing ever happened
>>215901532Almost no one hypes Latent Image and what, you don't like the two best comedy episodes of Star Trek ever?Message in a Bottle and Tinker Tenor, I have no idea how anyone couldn't like those.
>>215901499so have an episode about looking for weapons to defend against the hirogen
hello /trek/ how are you?I hope I can paint the holodeck arch this weekendI'm already playing around with some stls for a transporter room
>>215901551i do not care for andy dick
>>215901578thats what she said
>>215901559They did it's called Retrospect, the one where 7 imagines a dude raped her, idiot
>>215899775Heh, remember when Worf lobotomized his brother instead of giving him an honorable death?
>>215901578Andy Dick, Tom Arnold, and Pete Davidson are the three actors where I refuse to watch anything they're featured in.
>>215901614ok yes and hey it even had consequences since they don't get the weapons and the hirogen 2 parter, the exception that proves the rule, voyager is constantly resetting the end of the 2 parter a perfect example, how many shuttle craft did they have again? how many torpedos?
>>215901690how could you know you hate them if you've never seen anything they are in?
Anybody else find The Visitor episode from DS9 overrated? Tony Todd is a pretty good actor, but the episode does absolutely nothing for me that I haven't seen one thousand times before.
>>215901694>he starts nitpicking the torpedoes and shuttlecraft because of that youtube video
>>215901711>Anybody else find The Visitor episode from DS9 overrated?No.
>>215901325
>>215901567Are those elves from Lord of the Rings?
>>215901711its one of the best DS9 episodes because Sisko is a dad who is black and leaves his family
>>215901722I've been thinking about how stupid that is for decades since the show aired I only found out about that yt video a few months ago, don't be so over eager to defend voys faults it has them it should have had better continuity weird you can't just admit that.
>>215901711>I have never loved anyone and no one has ever loved meYeah we could tell
>>215901567Are you going to make stopmotion videos with these?
>>215901578Andy Dick is only in Message in a Bottle.
>>215901760I freely admit Voyager's writing faults all the time. I'm just not a nitpicky bitch over things that don't matter in a dramatic narrative, such as the torpedo count.
The other day while I was taking a Captain's Log I realized something>VOY finale was a "greatest hits" of TNG era cliches (Borg, time travel, old age makeup) because they knew it would be the last episode in that time period>Nemesis was a "greatest hits" of movie cliches (villains out for revenge, superweapons, doomsday countdowns) because they knew it would be the last movie>ENT finale tries to bookend 18 years of nonstop Trek with TNG cameos I get what they were going for, but all they did was piss fans off by rehashing material.
>>215901985its important and adds drama tension and weight, a shuttle blowing up means nothing if they have a full compliment next episode, if losing one means something it makes the show better same for the torpedos if they are conserving them then when insaneway says >fire torpedoesit has weight it means shit just got real its important, going back to bsg they always have the total population count so when you lose a 1/2 dozen ships and thousands of people it means something, the loss of a single viper means something, a single nuke means something
>>215902083I agree that they overdid it with shuttles constantly crashing/exploding and then appearing again the following episode (especially in season 3 for some reason) but they rectify this with the Delta Flyer.It's only in Alice when Chakotay says "shuttle? We don't need more shuttles!" because the writer of the week was being retarded
>>21590206120 years later and our media is nothing but rehashed material from better days. Star Trek was ahead of the curve with member berries and greatest hits. And it's only gotten worse.
>>215902141yea I wish I could find that pasta with the crewman who keeps getting more and more unnerved when the shuttles keep reappearing
>>215901711Yes, I thought it was laughably bad. Cheesy, poor performances, schmaltzy. There are much better episodes, especially "It's only a paper moon".
>>215902346if you ever, ever disrespect tony todd again candyman will come for you
>>215901299She’s a trained dancer and her mother was as well. Oaf
>>215902061VOY finale was shit because they hadn't found a way back home and had 2 episodes to go. The journey back should have been a season long arc, starting after Unimatrix they find bits of boog tech to figure out how to use the subspace freeway thingy.Timeless was a far far better time travel episode about saving the crew. Endgame is just trash.
>>215902473They purposefully copied aspects of All Good Things for Endgame because AGT was well received and they thought that's what people wanted
>>215902611Same for Nemesis, they went, why don't we do an "homage" to Wrath of Khan, since people like it so much
>>215902693eh it was more a homage to TUC with the cloaked ship that can still fire
>>215901578He insists upon himself.
>>215902141>they rectify this with the Delta Flyer.doesn't the flyer literally get vaporized in explosions multiple times
>>215903166twice
>>215903175A day
I nominate... the grizzellas
>>215903246I don’t know who that is
>>215903166>>215903175Once
>>215903246>hibernate for months at a time>grizzlieslol
>>215903166>You've been on this tiny ship in the Delta Quadrant beyond any hope of recrew or resupply for over a year, but you keep seeing ensigns you don't recognise. >Everyone tells you that they've always been here.>You go down to Engineering looking for Lt. Carey. B'Elanna tells you that he's just stepped out. He's been "just stepped out" for days.>A shuttle crashes on a desert planet. You speak with Chakotay about the possibility of trading for some new shuttles, but he looks at you funny and says "but we already have a full complement of shuttles".>You run to the shuttlebay and inspect them personally. There is a full complement of shuttles. And none of them even have a scratch.>The next week, a shuttle is torn to pieces in a plasma storm. You're not even surprised when you find intact it in the shuttlebay an hour later.You stop mentioning shuttles.>The ship has an encounter with some Kazon, but manages to get away. Their ships are primitive and slow and you shouldn't run into them again.>Two weeks later, you meet the same Kazon, now somehow in front of you. You begin to suspect that you're driving in circles.>You go to Engineering looking for Lt. Carey. You haven't seen him in two years. He's "not there right now, but should be back in a minute".>Janeway and Paris travel at Warp 10 and turn into salamanders. You're *sure* that it happened. You *remember* it happening! But no one brings it up. When you ask Tom about it, he doesn't even register the question.You scream "BUT YOU WERE A SALAMANDER!" into his ear. He doesn't even hear you.>You see another Ensign you don't recognise. You finally just ask the computer for the crew complement of Voyager. You are told that the answer is: 121.
>>215903532>A month later, the Hirogen conquer the ship, spend weeks brainwashing and surgically altering the crew into believing that they are actually characters in holographic simulations, and then hunt them for sport. This culminates in a pitched battle between the crew and the Hirogen in which the ship is utterly wrecked and dozens of people are killed.>Afterwards, you ask the computer for the ship's crew complement. You are told that the answer is: 147.>The next day, you wake up and find Voyager restored to its original state.>You make a discreet inquiry about Lt. Carey. Now everyone acts like he's dead but can't tell you precisely when or how.>The Captain takes you aside one day and specifically instructs you not to mention Ensign Jetal to the Doctor. She says that she knows that this will be difficult, given how close we all were to her (and you in particular), but that for the greater good of the crew, you need to act like Ensign Jetal never existed. You solemnly nod your head and consent, and she gives you a comradely pat on the shoulder and leaves the room. You have absolutely no idea who Ensign Jetal is.>Voyager absorbs the remaining crew of the USS Equinox. Well at least you'll finally have an explanation for the new crew you see around the ship! You never see any of them ever again.
>>215903561>You've now travelled almost 40,000 light years towards home. You check the star charts; somehow, you're still in the Delta Quadrant. You begin to wonder if the Beta Quadrant even exists.>The Delta Flyer is destroyed by Borg torpedoes. You don't even bother to check the shuttlebay for it, you just instinctively know that it will be back.>A few months later, the Captain gives you the sad news: Lt. Carey is dead.>You finally make it back to the Alpha Quadrant, say your tearful farewells, and receive a handshake and a promotion from Admiral Paris. As one last thought before leaving Voyager forever, you pay a visit to the shuttlebay. You find it utterly empty, except for one lowly crewman with a mop and pail, swabbing the deck. "I...guess that Starfleet must have already cleared out the remaining shuttles?" You say uncertainly, your voice echoing in the cavernous, empty room. The crewman breaks off his mopping and looks at you like you've lost your mind and says: "Voyager never had any shuttles."
>It's a Kira episode>It's a Jake episode>It's an Odo episode Skip>It's a Quark episode>It's a Bashir episode>It's a Worf episodeEngage
The most egregious examples of VOY disregarding all continuity mostly come up in the last two seasons when the writers gave up and ran the show on autopilot
VOY?
>>215903532Stop noticing things
>>215903532>>215903561>>215903582there it is, absolute genius
>>215903589>surviving Equinox crew disappears>Carey died after S1 except he's still alive>Naomi's mom is dead, right? No wait she's not nvm>Seven has her first dream (she's actually dreamt before)>Janeway's characterization hopping around These are all in S6-S7
>>215903690Carey never explicitly dies, he’s just smoking in an airlock on duty a lot. Fuck those Maquis shits, he can do what he wants
>>215903690>Janeway's characterization hopping around >These are all in S6-S7lmfao, no it was a thing since season 1, voy defense force please take a step back and reevaluate your life
>>215903727The writers thought he died, that's why he only appears in time travel episodes where they go back to Season 1. Then they remembered that he didn't. That's how lazy they got.
>>215898165nana 'cross-eyed' visitor
>>215903782They remembered about it in the last season, that's why he gets shot in the chest when he's beaming away from the "Fallout Wasteland" planet. Apparently he'd spent most of his Lost Weekend in his quarters building a lego model of Voyager and, no doubt, seething about the Klingon roastie diversity hire who stole his promotion. A true /trek/ poster and an inspiration to us all.
>>215898211any serialisation of voyager would have it cancelled it in 3 seasons at best (and a 3rd season would be short)
>>215903762Janeway was a science officer thrust into command but when Jeri Taylor left they completely dropped that aspect
>>215903583>skipping the final 'actually good' episode of ds9: in the cardsi shiggy diggy
>>215903843alienating jeri was a mistake as was alienating moore, fucking piller and berman
>>215903946Michael Piller saved Star Trek but he also contributed to its death; ironic
>>215903946moore is useless klingon-fucking retardalso what did piller do, he'd left after season 2 of voyager>>215903961calm down
>>215903974piller was the "creative consultant" for the entire show you tard, also moore proved he was abetter show runner then piller or jeri or berman
>>215903974Calm?? Calm never got me a DAMN thing!!!
>>215904012>entire showno he'd left after season 2stop being retarded yourselfconsultant a courtesy title>>215904012where, i don't see anything of his reaching the heights of seasons 3-6 of tng, which were that good because of piller (as can be seen in s7 when taylor, with moore on staff, takes over)
>>215904040cancerous woke nonsense of an episode leading to the most retarded idea behr has ever had (only stopped by berman)
>>215904056he left as executive producer he remained as "creative consultant" throughout the show you fucking moron
>>215904088THAT'S A COURTESY TITLE, HE WASN'T ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH THE SHOW AFTER SEASON 2, YOU RETARD BEYOND RETARDS
>>215904056>>215904088You're both wrongMichael Piller left the entire franchise in 1996 and only came back to make Insurrection in 1998Jeri Taylor took over TNG in 1993-94 ISB went to DS9 as soon as it started
>>215904056moore made battlestar its really that simple, the heights that reached are fucking amazing, he should have a statue for the adama maneuver alone
>>215904110lol you are so clueless there is no point continuing this conversation
>>215904149>thinking american tv always stops crediting people after they leftholy shitis the reason these /trek/ threads are so shit because some of you tolerate actual retards to just keep talking their complete retardation among you
>>215904110This is true, Jeri Taylor also received a courtesy title when she left Voyager after S4
>>215904216lol your defense of Voy and its creators has failed now try and defend berman I know you want to
>>215904237Rick Berman is like Dukat. He may have done a few things wrong, but he was always right.
>>215904124>You're both wrongthe fuck>Michael Piller left the entire franchise in 1996 and only came back to make Insurrection in 1998i was talking about voyager, he left after season 2>Jeri Taylor took over TNG in 1993-94yeah, i said that>ISB went to DS9 as soon as it startedthe fuck? he was with tng for a whole year, season 3 (and retards credit him with the whole of yesterday's enterprise even though that's an episode that exists thanks to piller (going uncredited)) and then, years later, joined ds9
>>215904272but Dukat did nothing wrong
>>215904237berman made sure ds9 wasn't completely shit in its final two seasons
>>215904276i misread your post and thought you said behr stayed on TNG to the end when he was strictly a season 3-5 guythe 90s writers shuffle is a bit of a clusterfuck
>>215904332>strictly a season 3-5 guyno, literally only season 3he did something else in-between (like writing qpid as a freelancer)
>>215904324ok i'll give him that, purple goatee really was huffing his own farts by the end
It's interesting the different producers being shuffled around.Jeri Taylor made TNG all muh feelings strong womyn in the last season, she was a bad fit, she was better suited to VOYMichael Piller on DS9 was directionless until Ira Steven Behr gained more influence and introduced the DominionAmong other examples.
Updated Dominion War track. This is closer to what I wanted - the original "genre" track was disco. When I am done with this I will destroy every MIDI stem I see like a Luddite.https://vocaroo.com/1lclegxH7yYk
>>215904577Michael Piller and Jeri Taylor overseeing VOY in S1-2 had some sense of direction, and strong continuity, but not everyone cared for the Kazon. However Jeri Taylor solo-ing the program in S3 was a dumpster fire.Ira Steven Behr working with Robert Hewitt Wolfe on DS9 were a power team, until Wolfe left after S5 and the show shits the bed.
>>215902346Yeah, Avery Brooks didn't really sell it (Tony Todd was good, though) and I think cheesy is the right word for it. I didn't hate the episode, but I was surprised reading reviews about it and people saying "It's one of the best Star Trek episodes ever!". Inner Light is like the same thing, except 10x better.
>>215904732>Inner Light is like the same thing, except 10x better.I disagree. While Inner light was better written, you didn't already have the familial attachment between Jake and Benjamin. Sure, Picard basically accommodated and had a rug-pull at the end. But Tony Todd really sold a son who desperately missed his father, which built upon years of Cirroc Lofton and Avery Brooks having good onscreen chemistry as father and son.
Despite the dodgy writing I still like TOS Season 3's stronger focus on weird sci-fi plots than the wacky comedy hijinks of half of Season 2
i can't think of many or actually any stories where you see a son sacrificing his life out of pure love for his father and not the other way around
that shot of Sisko looking over Jake while he's sleeping and he's just smiling. god. imagine knowing your baby lived a long life and became an old man and finding out he basically threw most of it away worrying about and trying to help YOU and never lived out his dreams because of it. i'm getting misty eyed just thinking about it again. this episode is seriously one of the only TV shows that ever actually made me cry, I was blown away when I first saw it.
>>215904866>i can't think of many or actually any stories where you see a son sacrificing his life out of pure love for his father and not the other way aroundJESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR
>>215904861It was a hail mary. It didn't often hit, but it was still fun & it was still Trek.Enterprise Incident is fantastic too. It'd suck if it didn't exist except in like cartoon form.
>>215904861>Me if liking wacky comedy episodes of Star Trek was illegal
>>215905000aye
>>215905184Comedy episodes are fine and the TOS cast does comedy well, but there's no denying that S1 has a darker tone while S2 has a lighter one, with S3 being somewhere in-between
>>215905247S1 of TOS is the goat'd season of trek
>>215904811I respect your opinion, but we're just going to have to disagree. Just didn't do it for me. I saw what they were going for, and I think a better script could have conveyed it better.
>>215905314TOS season one is probably one of the greatest self contained seasons of televisions ever. Writers forgot how to tell a banger story in under an hour.
>>215905576>>215905314It's got some amazing episodes absolutely, but a few too many "hey look a literal god" ones for my taste
>>215903782I like my headcanon better in which he grudgingly shows up for his duty shifts on occasion while spending most of his time on the holodeck and/or seething and subtly sabotaging systems in retaliation for getting ousted for some Maquis shit diversity hire. There’s a show, that’s a show
>>215904317Sure he did. He stopped.
>>215899574She killed billions (sperm)
>A minor operative whose activities are limited to running errands for the terrorist leaders
>>215904272Sounds like you need a friendly reminder
>>215904087filtered
>>215906974I want to fuck his ear
>>215907350that's not very nice
>>215901985Star Trek was once a series that made use of details of fictional space ships and such as important parts of whatever drama that was unfolding
>>215907350tiny pp?
>>215898165ATTENTION BAJORANS WHOSE MOTHERS I'VE HAD SEX WITH
>>215907618that's gotta be like...100s of Bajorans...maybe 1000s
>>215907565I just don't think "we only have 47 torpedoes" is as important to the plot as remembering which deck certain rooms are located or where the main shuttlebay is. It just makes the situation sound more dramatic than it should be. If anything I'm sure torpedoes can be replicated.
>>215907891of course they can be replicated. they made a new shuttle
>>215907891It's not like STD where after 5 seasons and 65 episodes they still don't tell you where Engineering was, because the producers put zero thought into how a pizza cutter starship works.
>>215907891Yeah, there's no reason they can't be made, the components can be replicated and the whole ship runs on antimatter, so they can make warheads. The issue people have with it is more that they brought it up and didn't explain why it was no longer a limit. They could have never brought it up (the original Enterprise had hundreds of those things), or they could have had a throwaway line about manufacturing more, they essentially chose the worst of both worlds.Of course, I'm a VOY fan, I don't actually think it's a massive flaw, to me it's just a funny bit of trivia, like those parts in TOS when they mention what year it's set in, but it's a different century each time.
>>215907962Meanwhile every other ship had full schematics of every nut and bolt on the ship. I even saw a schematic of Data with similar levels of detail.
>>215899775Yeah ENTbros I'm thinking we won
>>215907891>>215908038The line "captain, we only have 47 torpedoes, which we can't replace!" is very early in the show (S1E06 to be exact) and it's a dumb line because why shouldn't they be able to replace them as they're fired off? The writers were correct to ignore it
>>215908169And before someone brings it up, they have lots of episodes where they have to replenish their resources whether it's fuel, matter, or food
>>215908169The better course of action would have just been to never put that dumb line in at all. Don't real-life battleships carry hundreds of those? Nobody would have actually cared if Voyager just fired them off recklessly, all the other Trek ships tend to. It's more the fact that they invented an arbitrary limit for the sake of a (somewhat) dramatic line, that's the issue most people have with it.
>>215908118they unanimously decided that making up blueprints and a tech manual and making the writers follow it was literally hitler or something, you know how gen Xies and soilennials are
>>215908316Lego Batman theory. A bunch of women writers came in and decided that engineering was boring and what the franchise needed was more love triangles.
>>215908358that too, it's all nerd shit, why should they care?they forgot that trekkies DO indeed care
>TOS>blueprints and technical manuals available>TNG>blueprints and technical manuals available>DS9>technical manuals available>VOY>technical manuals available>ENT>technical manuals available>STD>zero>PIC>zero>LD>zero>SNW>zero
>>215909384>>ENT>>technical manuals availableAlso blueprints/deck plans.
>>215908358>And when they did that, they were saying that the individual's rights will be protected only so long as they don't conflict with the state. Nothing is so dangerous to a society.
>>215904611it's pretty funky. >don't yell at me I'm doing my best it's not pretendpoor guy who did nothing wrong it just breaks your heart
>>215910195I'd love to see his dance moves
>ROM: The only reason they haven't killed me yet is that I'm part of their victory celebration. Seven o'clock, Dukat makes a speech. Eight thirty, cake and raktajino. Eight forty five, execute the Ferengi. it's so fucking true that dukat would give a speech that lasts an hour and a half
>>215910672Cardassians DO like to talk! hehehahaha
>>215900008You obviously missed the best part of that episode.
>>215910665As long as you're cloning you may as well build a few tutting groups I guess
>Writer, executive producer, and first season showrunner on Star Trek: Picard, Michael Chabon, eschewed the use of stardates, stating in an Instagram story dated 26 February 2020:>"Stardates, in my view, and I know this is going to make some people mad, are a uniquely perverse form of uninformative information. Using a stardate tells you precisely nothing. Even people who know how to interpret and convert them have to go off and interpret and convert them to have them mean something. Giving an audience the stardate is like I wanted to know if I needed to put on a sweater or not, and you told me the temperature outside in Kelvin. 'It's 287 out.'" [15]They mock you and laugh at you
>>215910919if you want to laugh look him up on imdb
>>215911048everyone on nutrek was only hired not just because of their (((family connections))) but because they've all once been part of JJ abrams' posse
>>215910919if this guy had ever watched trek or had a brain at all he would know the point of stardates are not to be informative
>>215910869BuhBuhBuhBASEDAnd I HATE gay-i
>>215904866OOOOOH PWNED!!!1!>>215905021nice pwn
>>215907962Try not to think too hard about how this ship would work.
>>215910869Crusher has some amazing puffy camel toe going on in this scene.
i refuse to watch Sons of Mogh again sorry watchalong bros have fun without me
>>215909384They literally show the Cerritos' schematic in the first episode. Way to admit you've never even seen the show and yet you feel qualified to crap all over it.
>>215912008How can you hate AI? It's basically a digital bullshit machine. It doesn't know what's true or false, it doesn't understand what it's saying, and yet it can replace 90% of the people out there because they've been faking their way through life. So tell me why you hate AI, lazy bullshit artist.
finished rewatching Lower Decks again, fuckin.. so good. got me wanting to watch the 90s Treks again. I don't suppose we have a google drive or a mega or something. I know where to go, it's just annoying having to open each one up manually instead of like, the wco model.>>215912208how useful would this even be? a cross-section of a dish only gives you so much info
>>215910869wait what the fuck is going on with their reflections?
>>215908311VOY writing must have been hard. they understood the assignment, they understood the setting... the two don't mesh.
>>215901711it worked great the first timeonce you know what happens, less
>>215912445My point was that they showed a schematic of the Cerritos in the first episode. They undoubtedly showed it other times, but they literally showed it up front.>>215912472>he's looking at the reflectionsOld-school image-to-video doesn't understand reflections. Sora 2 might, though. https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/11/12/george-clooney-trashes-tech-like-openais-sora-2-as-scary-its-dangerous-for-your-family/
>>215912538oh it's AI! I THOUGHT they got a little too close on that embrace. but hey, it was the 80s.>schematicyeah I know, you are correct, i'm just questioning the use of such oldtimey 2d cross-section schematics on a ship that is so threedimensionally complex.
>>215912252because people were told toif you want to know why they were told to hate it: because idiotic businesses fear the holodeck. they are dragging AI's name through the mud by purposely using it as offensively and uselessly as possible, and lobotomizing it the best they can, because they know if it actually worked, their days would be numbered. It would democratize content creation, and strip operating costs down so small that they couldn't embezzle from them anymore.
Anyway just ignore the nu trek fag until he goes away as usual. Remember, DO NOT reply to him.Sons of Mogh on now, Watchalong bros. Definitely a controversial episode.
>>215912633That doesn't explain why these "people" you speak of did what they were told to do. That just makes them sound more useless and guilty. Fortunately, there's one final way they can serve society—as carbon-neutral crude oil. https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/researchers-create-sustainable-jet-fuel
>>215912669another point of evidence for the fact that Bashir is really just a mad fucking scientist who will do just about anything
>>215912583>>215912583You really had to be told that was AI...?!>>215912669Since when are YOU in charge? Maybe you'd be happier on Plebbit or BlueCry.
>>215910901>PAR||5huh
>>215910919niggas literally do not know what immersive exposition/dialogue is
>>215912008Why would you be afraid of AI when this is as good as it gets? (At least Russian robotic AI.) https://x.com/BohuslavskaKate/status/1988335548478755185/video/1
>>215912771You are in great danger of being replaced by AI. I look forward to your essence going out the tailpipe of my car.
You're not even talking about Trek, you're just spamming the thread with off-topic garbage.Must've been a bad night at the Nu Trek Faggot Factory.
>>215912795Yesterday I asked Google's AI how many niggers it takes to make a Tarzan movie and it refused to give me a specific number. All it did was provide me with numerous references to Sanford and Son before crapping out on me.
>>2159127583 up! 4 left! right hand green!
>>215912874Right, because Trek features no instance of AI. Seriously, watch Trek more before replying.
>>215912685people are sheep. news at 11.>>215912758I wasn't looking very closely, and it never occurs to me to even consider someone would make AI of.. like, an actual show. least of all videos, least of all looking this close. obviously now it's 1000% obvious.
>>215912924boy now that you mention it, the AI ban in Picard's relatively shitty first season (but still fantastic compared to the second) was a bit prophetic.the rest of where that plot went was fucking retarded, but that part... yeah, panicky idiots, absolutely they'd do that. I mean this is a society who got attacked by genetically augmented supermen and banned all genetic augmentation except for clear and present disorders.
>>215912864>>215912898please don't reply to me again with your schizo ramblings
so no megas or drives or nothin
>>215903838Why do you say that
>>215913132the executives literally said so, and they said it to ds9 too so you knew they weren't fucking aroundvoy was the lowbrow trek, it aired on UPN. those people don't want to think.
>>215912745I always assumed that is why he requested a post on the "frontier". You can do all kinds of cool shit without some federation asshole yapping in your ear about "ethics" and what not
>>215913213I have to admit, I agreed almost 100% with that doctor Beverly had a hateboner for, who fixed Worf's backYeah, is it ideal? no. But people are dying, or wishing they were. Once you've cured everything, we can worry about medical procedure standards and empirical data and shit.Bev's like "but you're a doctor, people trust everything you say will definitely work" and it's like THEY SHOULDN'T. and she's helping with that. Just be honest about the risk and then take drastic measures. All this "eh it's okay to be unhealthy as long as you're still alive" shit has landed us in a position of a population that's nearly all invalid.
>>215912964If you want rules, go to Plebbit or BlueCry. Clearly, you're not suited for 4chan.
>>215913016My anon, if you didn't bittorrent all of Star Trek ages ago, you only have yourself to blame.Besides, there are many places you could go, e.g. https://www.lookmovie2.to/shows/search/?q=star%20trek
>>215913275ah ah ahgentlemen agree on rules that resonate with them. children and fools follow the rules of others blindly
>>215898165built for cardy cock
>>215899574not as many as she swallowed balls deep
>>215913344>ah ah ahum... gesundheit?
>>215913343yeah i know, those are just annoying. wanted to check. Found a good one for Good Eats and Whose Line, making those way more fun to relive, but yknow
>>215913376sorry, I don't know how to spell the glottal stop forbidding sound.You know, "ah ah ah, you didn't say the magic word.."
>>215913275>>215912964
I’ve been wondering why I don’t like modern Trek.It can’t be the preachiness because Picard and Kirk could get pretty damn preachyIt can’t be the bluntness of the messaging because old trek literally had things like the half black half white man allegory about racismIt can’t be the stupidity because old trek had things like Spock’s brain and Nemesis I think it might just be the actors or at least the writing for themSisko felt like a burnt out single dad who got deployed to the ass end of nowhere but was still going to do his job 100% percent anyway because he wasn’t capable of giving any less.Picard felt like a workaholic who had subsumed himself into starfleet and had come to embody its highest ideals because of that fanatical dedicationThey feel like real people who just so happen to live in the Star Trek universeWhereas the new crews feel too… cutesy and aware they are on a Star Trek show.>tee hee, I work in space! Isn’t that heckin coooooooool! Whoas! Time to go on some wacky space adventures just like heckin Picard and kirkerino!
>>215914061new trek takes what was wrong with season 1-2 TNG and cranks it up to 11,000Kirk's preachiness was GOOD preachy. the idea that all preachiness is the same thing is very 21st century.new actors don't work as hard. but the bigger issue really is that the old blunt messages were good (half white half black and half black half white people should get along), and the new blunt messages are bad (the half black half white minority should genocide the half white half black aggressors)the wacky adventures attitude doesn't describe anything I can think of other than Lower Decks, and they make it work. They feel like real people working in an organization that is a little bigger than they are.
There are a billion reasons Nu Trek is shit. You can just pick any of them.Here's an easy one. Nurse Chapel from SNW>heckin' super genius who has published a ton of scientific papers>is also a girlboss who can kill just as easily as she can heal!>literally has commando scenes (kek i wish i was making this shit up)>had Spock madly in love with her but tossed him away, didn't want him>can turn people into Vulcans with a magical hyposprayShe's like a retarded cartoon character like every single woman who has appeared in any of these Nu Trek shows. She's a fucking NURSE.
>>215914061The writing is the biggest weakness by a country fucking mile. The cadre of Hollywood writers in the last 10+ years don't have any fucking life experience whatsoever to draw from and it shows. They clearly don't even read any literature either. Can't tell a good story if you have nothing to draw from. If you have even decent writing, you could have the show set on a bridge made of fucking cardboard and it would be good. Instead, we have a very shiny, expensive piece of shit full of retarded dialogue and uninspiring story telling
>>215912208Lower Standards is made for faggots and retards, suck my dick. Nigger.
