>“I’m very supportive of Chris’s intention with it and with the version of this story that he is telling. Our cast is representative of the world. I’m not spending my time thinking of a defense. The criticism will exist whether I engage with it or not.”I mean, she's right. It's just a stupid ass movie/ People should be mad at Nolan and the producers, not her. I'm not going to knock her for taking the paycheck.
>>220673696>Our cast is representative of the worldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdGyIKfkYZw
>>220673696Nolan is a hack, I'm glad the general public is finally realizing this. Him making a biopic about a jew was already suspicious enough.
>>220673696>Our cast is representative of the worldBut the story isn't about the world, its about a bunch of Greeks
>>220673696"Helen" is not an african name therefore Helen being black makes no sense
>>220673758Matt Reeves mogged his batman too
>>220673696>im not wasting time thinking of a defense>pretended she was buying the odyssey "series of books" to read itkek
>>220673789how about the tax payer represents the world then. give me the money.
>>220673696>representativeWhy do black people like to call it representative of the world when there is no Asian or Latino in this movie? Like there are only black and white people in this world?
>>220673812Lmao. This is what retarded zoomers actually think.
>>220673851These people dont care about being logically consistent, they just want anything to say "gotcha heheh"
>>220673864I'm 33, graduated law and literature, 4 years both, in Europe. Cope.
>>220673927Did you got payed to study, nordic country?
>>220673927>graduated law and literatureMeme degrees. If you aren't STEM you're a brainlet. No wonder you think the midman is good.
>>220673947Not nordic, I paid a symbolic amount since I was a good student, didn't get paid unfortunately.
>>220673812Not really? It's better than Rises, but is mostly successful insofar as it plays it safe and recycles The Dark Knight 2008 as much as possible
>>220673969>If you aren't STEM you're a brainletThe best STEM people are heavily involved in philosophy. Those who avoid it are technicians.Your hyperfixations caused by autism are not proof of higher intelligence, STEMcel.
>>220674005It's not better than Rises. Hell, it's not even better than Batman v Superman.
>>220673696>Our cast is representative of the worldTHE ODYSSEY IS NOT ABOUT THE CURRENT WORLD YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH
>>220674025>It's not better than RisesGet this hothead out of here
>>220674025It's worse than the Schumacher films. There I said it.
>>220674025anything is better than rises loool
>>220674025One of the worst capeshit I've seen. Don't know what people see in it. El rata alada was one of the worst riddles I've ever heard.
>>220673851When HELLBOY (2019) was in production, Ed Skrein voluntarily dropped out of the film when he learned his character was an Asian-American in the comic book.>It is clear that representing this character in a culturally accurate way holds significance for people, and that to neglect this responsibility would continue a worrying tendency to obscure ethnic minority stories and voices in the Arts. I feel it is important to honor and respect that. Therefore, I have decided to step down so the role can be cast appropriately.The vacant part was given to Daniel Dae Kim, who went on to state:>I applaud the producers and, in particular, Ed Skrein for championing the notion that Asian characters should be played by Asian or Asian American actors.Only white actors feel guilt about playing non-white roles. Non-whites couldn't give a shit.
>>220674284>Don't know what people see in itBatman is actually a detective. It's a noir film like it should be.
>>220674347>Batman is actually a detectiveA retarded one sure.
>>220674389Nolan didn't even try. Made him into happy hugh hefner lel.
>>220673696She's racist and a selloutWhy their limited version of what the world should look like (a bunch of american and some token africans) should appropriate this greek, european thing?I guess when the wester world was ~100% white it was ok for that to be reflected in movie and all the noise about whitewashing is now stupid? Right?
>>220673696>I’m not spending my time thinking of a defense.>Our cast is representative of the worldYou could just have said "i dont care"
>>220673696>I wont defend this decision Concession accepted.
>>220673696it's not her I want to hear from
>>220674450That's better than what Reeves gave us. Reeves can't write noir detective shit. He should stick to what he knows (and God knows what that is).
>>220673738kek
>>220673696>not spending my time thinkingThe woke leftist motto
>>220673696>our cast reflects the word>while using an ancient greece setting/story/roster of characters>while excluding greeks>while excluding anyone except whites and blacks>while the translation used excludes most of the original cultural roots and flavor
>>220673812Poor man's Nolan Batman, lmaowhat a shit movie
>>220673696That non-statement was written for her by a white person
>>220674025>Hell, it's not even better than Batman v Superman.Well, let's not shit the bed now kek
>>220674589why are liberals so anti-reality? insanity, or evil?
>>220674488Netflix couldn't make Othello because everybody would be black so the story wouldn't make sense.
>>220674611Nolan is a hack. Joker's actor saved the movie, batman himself was so fucking boring.
>>220673696Is that Debra Wilson? I hear she's easy to work with.
Casting aside the movie still looks shit
>>220674670I'll be banal and say bothyou cannot be comically evil unless you are also insane, because at a certain point rationality stops you from going full retard.Self esteem, self preservation and preserving your own reputation are already 3 big reasons why being that evil is really impossible as long as you have some connection with the real world
>>220674688Kek>>220674719Agree to disagree. Either way Nolan is one trick pony, and demystifying shit has run its course
>>220674759Yep, and literally everyone is miscast, token black pets aside
>>220674653Batman v Superman is ultimately a swing and a miss but at least it took a swing. The Batman is recycling the greatest hits of Nolan and Fincher but with far worse writing and directing.
>>220674313dodged a bullet
>>220674848I won't even comment on BvShit, but 100 agree on the rest
>>220673812the only thing the batman mogged was the ability to lose people's attention, which is impressive seeing as dark knight rises had an active shooter in the theatre.
>>220674523She doesn't even understand. He handler wrote that.
>Nolan shills on teevee working overtimekek it will flop so hard
>>220674023Technicians define and master reality, "STEM-philosophers" navel-gaze and make up "elegant" bullshit maths that never has any practical application. Your normiesexual witterings are absolutely evidence of inferior intelligence, English Lit.
>>220673851>LatinoJohn Leguizamo is in the movie But idk about Asians
>>220673696She accepted the role that clearly isn't meant for her. So of course she's also to blame.
>>220673696>I’m not spending time thinking of a defenseAt least she implicitly admits that her casting is indefensible instead of going the we wuz greeks route
>>220673696Asians exist in the world. Where are the Asians in Odyssey?
>Nola's The Reddit
>>220673696People are knocking Nolan but I see you need to try and make someone into a martyr for the sake of having a victim narrative to try and defend this trash.
>>220673696This but spoken with a retarded nigerian accent
>>220673696LOL:LMAO even!
Culture warriors normally>culture is important>culture must be accurately represented in media >films and shows of the past that lacked accurate depictions of various figures from cultures and backgrounds suffer from a racist and close minded view and are attempting to appropriate the culture of others Culture warriors when European, history mythology, and other works are being adapted>it’s not a big deal it’s just a myth it’s not even real why do you care? Stop being a bigot it doesn’t matter
>>220678178They just hate white people.
>>220674670both
I actually just found out about the new diversity rules for the oscars that went into effect starting in 2024 and everything's making a lot more sense now.
All you racists dipshits are getting mad over a poem. A fucking poem.
>>220678178Ah yes because the Illiad and Odyssey have not already had bazillion versions with white people playing all the roles?
>>220678690According to what you fags have said it should always be white people.
>>220678690So they were casted correctly? What’s the issue?
>>220678690
>>220673696>Our cast is representative of the worldGuess then makes the Gengis Khan movie with John Wayne perfectly ok now
>>220678797It gave him cancer so yeah, worth it
>>220673851Asians and Latinos would watch a movie with an entire white cast because they truly don't mind that. They'd watch a movie with black people as well if the movie is appealing.She means that blacks, specifically, need to be represented on the screen for blacks to engage with it and watch it. They need to see that "one of them" is part of the movie and "acting black" (hence, the rapper dude) for them to feel like it interests them.You can say that blacks are this dumb or whatever, but the reality is that black don't participate in something unless the thing is been "blackened" for them to be able to be part of it as well. Like, how your vegan cousin doesn't show up to your party unless you tell them there will be vegan options to eat. Thing is, you have the choice to think your cousin is an entitled fuckup and don't invite them at the end, but Hollywood can't just act in a way that feels like they're "rejecting" blacks.
>>220673696>our cast is representative of the propaganda and hopeful worldwide box office take
>>220673696>own up to her own African tribal culture and history with no written language, didn't invent the wheel or the boat on their own, and didn't accomplish anything at all>steal someone else's, and claim "YOU CAN'T PROVE THEY WASN'T BLACK! LOOK AT HOW CLOSE TO AFRICA THEY ARE! THEY BLACK!"I can't wait for the day when the rest of humanity gets sick and tired of carrying this human luggage.
>>220673812If it wasn't for Heath Ledger, nobody would give a shit about the Nolan Batman movies. It's not a coincidence that TDKR was a complete turd without him to carry Nolan's shit writing.
>>220679967Oh yes, the sequel is the only reason. Not because the first movie was already very popular and got people hyped that Joker would be in the sequel
>>220673696lupita isn't to blame for this. i mean it's a job for her and she's getting paid. it's the jew producers and nolan for casting her for the sake of diversity and wokeness
>>220673851>John Leguizamo>Will Yun Lee>Himesh PatelCause every chud is focusing on her and not even looking at the cast list. It is very diverse.
>>220673927That's nice.... Never seen someone post their degree on 4chan. Are you having some sort of episode?
>>220679999Are we pretending that Ledger's Joker wasn't a complete cultural phenomenon in 2008? You think BB had even a fraction of that cache?
>>220673696why should a greek story be "representative of the world"?
>>220673696I don't care.Still not watching Nolanslop.
>>220680382The 12th century BC Aegean was representative of the modern world, or something.
>>220680093Why should a story by Greeks about Greeks be “very diverse?” Would you accept that in a story about Africa?
>>220674589Pure insanity.
Actors aren't going to turn down work. It's pointless to ask one of them to defend a casting choice, as they ultimately aren't what decide it.
>>220673696she's correct that nothing she can say would change anything, and it's also understandable why she took the money to act in it.it will just be a garbage movie that no one wants to see.
>>220673812Based
>>220673812now lettuce calm down and avoid doing insane claims in this state of madness.
>>220680093>story about ethnically and culturally Hellenistic people fighting against other ethnically and culturally Hellenistic peopleYeah, being “diverse” is kinda the problem
>>220673696>Chris' intention to ERASE Asians from the worldThanks Yale theater grad!
>>220680503Yes? What kind of comeback is that, niggas even watch anime and love goku or the white dudes from Fullmetal alchemist
>>220673789Funny. Since, for their time, Greeks were a fairly diverse people because of much much they sailed and traded (and fought and conquored). Yet that isn't diberse enough for "modern audiences".
>>220673789Yeah. If that is true, then why base iy on Greece at all. Make it an American version, like O Brother Where Art Thou. This is a half baked idea that claims to be authentic to history with no orchesta and claiming the king's armor was cutt8ng edge for its time, but then is totally inaccurate and modern and global with its casting. Absolute bullshit.
>>220673696look, im just not gonna watch iti know.. ugh i know!but im just not gonna watch it, thats all
>>220674450>>220674389>>220674347Bale in Nolan's Batman films was a horrible Batman, but that was by design. It was Nolan's "realistic" take on Batman. Batman was a platonic idea of Batman and a superhero. Bruce fails yo achive it, but gets up and keeps trying to reach it. In Rises we see him pass the mantle onto "Robin" for him to try to rise to the challenge.It was a good series of films, but purposefully not a great Batman adaptation. It was more an academic deconstruction.
>>220673696even the backlash is fabricated. no one cares about your shitty movie lol
>>220674589>excluding greeksI guess they didn't want the film to go into debt.
>>220678690This is like casting Moses, Abraham, or other important Judeo-christian figures as black women.
>>220673696>People should be mad at Nolan and the producers, not herShe chose to accept the part. She's responsible. "I'm just following orders" doesn't work when you enlisted of your own accord.
>>220674611Exacly. I keep saying the Reeves one was like leftovers from the Nolan films reheated in a microwave.
>>220673696She handled it better than Supergirl did.
>>220673812True
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>>220673696>bald>moon faced niggeress >dis helen o troy yall Unfathomable
>>220683189Yet Hollywood ignores actual black African Christians like the Ethopian Orthodox chuch. One of the oldest continuous Christian churches in thebworld. They have suffered famines and attacks from Muslim groups, but I guess they don't count as black due to their religion.
>>220680093Honestly, Hispanics like The Pest can pass for Greek.
>>220673696>People should be mad at Nolan and the producersNot even that, they should be pissed at the jews who force directors, producers, and everybody else into pushing this dei shit.
>>220673696Eh, she has a good agent at least. Probably told her to not get in the bandwagon calling men incels or some shit.
>>220678741Yes anon, a story of immense importance for the founding of Western civilization should probably cast ethnically European people.Can you imagine adapting the Three Kingdoms and making Caocao a blonde guy?
>backlashfake outrage has been standard jewish marketing for over a decade now. literally no one falls for it.
>>220674589How did this happen?
>>220678593Glad you got out from that rock you've been sleeping under
But its not representative of the world 3000 years ago. Foreigners were called barbarians by the Greeks.
>>220673696You know the real pity with this, (and ultimately the real problem)?1. In the old days you had a bunch of white actors in blackface and chinkface, etc. playing non-whites, because the reality was there just weren't enough non-white actors in a mostly white society with the necessary talent, training, English-speaking ability, name recognition, marketability, etc. to play those roles. Just like if some foreigner was making movies in some other corner of the world, they'd primarily use that local population because the other options were unavailable/inefficient/uneconomical.2. One day in the future, when the world is so heavily intermixed that everyone is a brown/yellow Gooback, you'll have the opposite problem trying to find a qualified pure White to play a Caucasian role, (or a pure breed of ANY currently existing race), but you'll still wish you could find one to play an authentic/historical role.But since Commie idiots want to FORCE their idea of Utopia onto you NOW, with people of all races holding hands beneath a rainbow, they cause conflict and shitty merit-devoid casting by inappropriately demonising #1, and trying to force #2 prematurely. If you just let people integrate naturally, they:a. Wont give a shit about race, beyond an unavoidable background noise level.b. There will be no significant conflict, apart from the minimal cultural friction you'd otherwise expect. Trying to FORCE shit just magnifies it way out of proportion, and like a lot of retard commie shit, just makes what they want - what they're demanding - take longer than it otherwise would.Which is to say, we're nowhere near the point that we 'need' to, or even 'should', cast the 'wrong' race in the wrong role, but non-whites and 'close enough' quadroons were already NATURALLY seeping into shit without anyone really noticing/caring. Not many people cared about Nig Fury, because he's not a widely known character and Samuel L. Jackson is a great fucking actor.
>>220673696>the version of this story that he is tellingThis is the core of my issue with this movie. We should have a big budget Odyssey. An epic, fantastical adventure filled with gods, and monsters, and magic shenanigans. Just play it straight. Make the story everyone knows. Don't fuck with it, or subvert it, or add some type of modern subtext. This should be a no-brainer for Hollywood. Instead we get "the version of this story that he is telling". Just like every other fucking movie/show Hollywood has made in the past 10 years.
>>220673758He's extremely hit and miss. I don't quite understand how he's developed the worship that he receives.
>>220673696She was good in the Wild Robot
>>220683350So why are you complaining that people don’t want this shit and how there being other renditions with whites makes it okay?
>>220673696>Our cast is representative of the world.
