You know, the sad part is that this thing will actually be a success in theatres since normies don't care about iconography or the culture of the classical world at all and since it's Nolan they will flock to watch it ins masses and this will be their introduction to classical greek culture, forever scarring the worlds perception of art and culture to some degree.
>>220680173>the sad part is that this thing will actually be a success in theatresHow is a movie being successful sad?The actual sad part is you caring so much about a movie you don't even want to watch. What is your actual problem? Just don't watch the movie. lmao
>>220680348kek
>>220680348>Yeah, but how does this affect you personally?
>>220680173normies have been redpilled to a certain degree since covid and have become fatigued by woke DEI faggot shit everywhere, even my normie family members and friends are turned off by faggot DEI hollywood and haven't watched anything since endgame.
It's just more of the same money laundering, white smearing drivel made by pedos who deserve to be lynched.>go to the island and everyone gets away with it>continue assaulting white culture
>>220680409I didn't say that. Clearly it's affecting you very deeply. But only because you decided to be mad about it. You NEED the world to suck so you feel less bad about missing out on life.
>>220680173> muh classical iconography
>>220680558sad b8
Why should I watch this shit when Ulysses 31 exists?
>>220680173It kind of looks like the underside of a shark and the spinal thing looks like the staff it’s holding
>>220680173>iconographythats the only thing they will get right though
>>220681444No they won't
>>220681672refer to your nearest dictionary
I'm trying to think of the the last time a historical epic type movie was a successful at the box office. Gladiator 2 and napoleon were dire. northman wasn't terrible.Help me out.
Lore accurate Achilles liberating Trojan women left and right.
>>220681742I've never seen those two but from what i've heard of the plot and production, those movies suck
>>220680173It will also be a success because it's a Nolan film and the "summer blockbuster" movie. It being a shitty movie will only negatively impact the next Nolan movie because trust in his movies will be damaged.
>>220681732what?
>>220680480Not him, but it's the opposite. It's only right to bemoan a culture that one feels happy to miss out on
Last time I watched a historical movie was Napoleon and it really felt like hatred of the past through a lens of modernity.
>>220681742I didn't watch it but apparently the green knight did pretty good. other than that idk
>>220680173Societies throughout history have taken the Iliad and Odyssey and have imprinted their culture and interpretations onto the story. This is no different. You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, case in point "classical greek"
>>220680173I really want to be excited for this, and I honestly don't care that much about Helen being a nigger, but casting Ellen fucking Page as Achilles is just too muchI'm genuinely sad, hard to hate at this pointjust tired and sad
>>220680173People who don't read will still not crack open a book. At least kids wondered about the original text after Baz Luhrmann's R+J. Did Nolan really get any conversation about the ethics of partaking in government programs that clearly are meant to harm large populations? It stayed at the level of actor worship. Any talk about morality from TDK has long followed the lores. Nolan unfortunately is just a PR event in 2026, no actual depth of culture outside of skincolor talk.
>>220681928East Asian countries are more powerful than any one from African continent in 2026, yet they are left out of this "Interpretation".
>>220681976>but casting Ellen fucking Page as Achilles is just too muchWasn't this deboonked like 2 weeks ago? I keep seeing Ackkkilles referenced but isn't (s)he actually just some like meaningless deckhand?
>>220682060Supposedly she's playing Elpenor. Still still isn't good casting because she's 40, about double Elpenor's age.
>>220682060Yeah she’s like intentionally the youngest wimpiest guy on the ship lol. These people are just addicted to cortisol and rage cycles. It’s like the consoom meme but it’s “Don’t ask questions, consume made up twitter ragebait and then get angry at new made up twitter rage bait”.
>>220682060oh, really? my bad. in that case I will watch it. Still not overly hyped though, Tenet was truly dogshit and burst the Nolan bubble for me. but I will go and see it just because it's been so long since anything came out that's worth going to see on a big screen
>>220680173it needs to make a least half a billion to not be a bomb, which is possible but it's risky considering all the negative press and it not being a "franchise"
>>220681773Gladiator 2 had a black Roman emperor
>>220682322It's Nolanslop. Oppenheimer was boring as fuck and yet that made a billion dollars purely because of the Barbenheimer meme, they'll find out some way to get butts into seats
>>220682124Ellen Page is a WOMAN who has no place playing that character
>>220680480>I didn't say that.you might actually be retarded , go get checked
>>220682397Yes but Oppenheimer was appropriately cast, this crap isn't and I suspect it will hurt the box office
>>220681742It's campy and fantasy but Deathstalker (the 2025 remake) was fun.
>>220682370Macrinus was African
>>220681928>Societies throughout history have taken the Iliad and Odyssey and have imprinted their culture and interpretations onto the story.Oh Brother Where Art Thou is imprinting American culture on The Odyssey. If Nolan had changed the setting of The Odyssey to Africa and done an entirely different interpretation with nothing but black actors that would be imprinting a culture onto the story. Telling the story in its original form in ancient Greece; but recasting the Greeks as blacks and recasting one of the greatest heroes in Greek mythology as a 4 foot 8 tall woman with her tits cut off isn't an interpretation, its not imprinting culture, its cultural vandalism, its taking Greek culture and in particular a myth that stands as one of the foundation of western culture and its defiling it to make it yet another inane shallow reflection of current year California.When you don't change the setting of the story from Greece and you go forward with remolding the story in your own image then you're not adding to the story, you're destroying it.
>>220682579He was a Berber. North Africans can't catch a break with the We Wuz Kangz movement, but they probably don't care or can't watch Hollywood slop to begin with.On a similar note imagine being Persian and an American movie depicts Xerxes as some big gay black man covered in piercings.
>>220682736>>>220682736>yet another inane shallow reflection of current year California.Like I said, imprinting current culture onto the story. Took you a while, but you got there :)
>>220682822What's imprinted? Greeks are black? Transvestites are real men? That's not culture, its just delusion.
>>220682736>a myth that stands as one of the foundation of western cultureIn what way do you have an actual claim to a dark age story?
>>220680173Nolan's last two movies were ASS. This movie will underperform, but it will be praised in the media as a huge success and a referendum on chuds.
>>220683012In what way do black peoole have claim to a particular word (that they didn't even invent)?
>>220683064>a deflectionoof not a good look
>>220680173Homer is spinning in his grave
>>220680348Can't you see how a shitty movie being successful is bad for movie fans? Did you miss what the MCU did to cinema over the past few years?
>>220680173Maybe but you forget, normies also don't give a fuck about Nolan like you guys do
>>220683087>rules for thee but not for me me me
>>220683064A word they can't even pronounce correctly
>>220683012>In what way do you have an actual claim to a dark age story?Ever heard of the Hero's Journey? That's the Odyssey. Every story where the hero gets a call to adventure, meets a mentor, faces adversity, learns a lesson and comes out the other side transformed is based on The Odyssey. Its the first story in history where the hero isn't an unchanging character. There is no more important story to western culture.
>>220680173My daughter is a classics geek, she read the odyssey at 10 and read a dozen other greek classics since then. She has her birthday the same week this opens and has been looking forward to going with friends for a year. This will be the moment she turns forever against woke bullshit. She will cry in the moment but her life will be richer for this disappointment. This will put her at Hitler Youth levels.
>>220684778Most uneducated post on this board. Embarassing.
>>220685377You have no daughter and you never will, and thank god for that, given that you would rape her, chud.
>>220684778>gets a call to adventureOdysseus doesn't get a call to adventure, he’s a veteran war hero already trapped in the consequences of a war he wants to escape, and the entire poem is about returning home>meets a mentorHe doesn't meet a mentor nor does he need one. He is already a master tactician/manipulator.>learns a lessonWhat does he learn?>comes out the other side transformedOdysseus finishes the story with the same defining qualities he started with. The whole story is about restoring his proper position, not reinventing him into a new person. Not only have you never read the Odyssey (no one here has), you haven't even read an abridged version or a summary.
>>220685445Lol, ok whatever you say. Maybe my 4chan handler can vouch for me
>>220681928>Societies throughout history have taken the Iliad and Odyssey and have imprinted their culture and interpretations onto the story. This is no different.>attempted explanation number 394827 as to why bad casting is ackchually NOT le bad, and if you disagree you're far rightcool
>>220680409This, with a sprinkle of>why do you care if it’s “historically accurate?” How would you know anyway? Were you there?
>>220682898>What's imprinted? Greeks are black? Transvestites are real men? That's not culture, its just delusion.I think what anon means, is that Nolan and Co. are "imprinting" retarded wokeism from current year liberal areas, rather than your careful example of imprinting the 1920s American South. It's idiotic and your examples demonstrate this.
>>220685377One of the best ways you can give your family the cultural antibodies against Nolanslop or any other kind of slop is to read Homer to them aloud when they're children. Chaucer, Virgil, Grimms fairy tales and any of that is good too. Some of it will scare them and give them bad dreams but the only alternative is for them to have a sense of our history that comes directly from a jewish slop factory.
>>220685748You never read any of that though.
>>220682294Behold, the cattle
>>220685748>our history>Homer, Chauser, Virgil, Grimm's fairy talesThe wewuzzing is strong with this one
>>220682124>Yeah she’s like intentionally the youngest wimpiest guyhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=PfYTM9YiEaM
>>220685734>>220685761>>220685786You Jews always get so nasty when you know you're about to lose a lot of money. Lol.
>>220685845The ancient romans and greeks will never be your ancestors, angloid. Their culture will never be yours.
>>220680173Just don't watch it? this movie doesn't affect literally anything, this nigga talking about normies caring about an epic greek poem is laughable and extremely out of touch with modern society, they'll watch it and forget about it a week later.
>>220685761I have but only in English translations mostly so far. I was reading Homer and the Bible as a boy. This is very common in good families. Not your experience I'd imagine. >>220685786Indo-European studies + Middle Ages. It's objectively our history. Many of the great poets of the middle ages got good by translating more ancient works for their own era, Ovid in particular in the west, since the time of Charlemagne. Without that the Arthurian Romances, the printing press, your ability to look at all of this one a phone, etc, etc. would have never happened. For better or worse. That's not wuzzery, our poets are the tie that binds. Homer is the father of them all.
>>220685845Ironically the concept of "white" is a church pan-european imperialism propaganda pieceNo one in human history ever thought like this everA Spartan is more twisted and wound up at someone calling him an Athenian; a Geat would cut off your head for saying he is a Svear during the Geatish-Svear warsTribal identity is mankind's innate state of being most closest to the natural orderNation states aren't real eitherYou have absolutely 0 connection to Romans and Greeks ethnically if youre an Angle or Saxon You have no connection to their thousands and thousands of years of cultureIts a jewish way of thinking (christianity and pan-europeanism comes from jewish imposed slave morality)You know who Moses isBut you dont even know your own ancestorsYou wouldnt even know a north european epic like who Heidrek and Hervarar areBut you know Noah's arc, a jewUniversalism is a fucking cancer for weak cowards and vaccinated cattle slaves of the state
>>220685885Oh yeah. This is a Jew who knows he is losing money on this venture.
>>220680173>normies don't care about iconography or the culture of the classical world at allbro, Chuds are like the biggest posers on the internet.Remember when they all pretended they were orthodox or catholics? What even triggered that within them? It was so awesome to see.
>>220685997And yet none of this angry rambling changes the fact that people with dark skin have significantly lower IQs. Socioeconomics though...
>>220685956You wore a mask and got vaccinated for a virus that literally didnt even existYou are a weak coward and a slave race99% of whites are domesticated cattle livestockIf you masked or vaxed ever your soul is made from dog shitYoure not sentient, have 0 critical thinking capabilities, and your opinions are worth less than dog shit
>>220685999Its not about money. Its about making you cry.
>>220685997>No one in human history ever thought like this everBecause they didn't have jews and the dregs of every continent being flooded into their countries. This is such a stupid fucking argument and always has been.
>>220685999>>220686029>>220686039Time to put your mask back on you vaccinated zoomer idiot NPCGo masturbate to more porn in your bedroom and play more skyrim, retard
>>220685956>We have been appropriating it for a while because we lack a culture of our own, so its ours now
>>220686050NoYou are imposing yourself and your faggot universalist western lens on other people and other men Because you cant stand the fact that not everyone thinks like you (a westerner universalist)You also masked and vaxed because youre a weak cowardIts why you are on 4chan.org/tv and consume jewish entertainment like tv movies and video games, because youre genetic trash
>>220682451My post doesn't contain your buzzphrase, dumbo>>220681822If you're bemoaning the prevalent culture of your people then you're the outlier. The longer you put off getting help the harder it will be to catch back up to your peers. >>220683098Those were some of the biggest films of all time. I don't see how they were bad for anything. If YOU personally didn't like them, that's a different story. But you don't speak for everyone, just yourself.
>>220685377>This will be the moment she turns forever against woke bullshit. This will put her at Hitler Youth levels.based Aryan-daughter raiser
>>220686038Never did either of those. You need to realize that the vast majority of of the human race is just terrified and compliant faggots who can be corraled like animals because that is human nature. Not some flaw unique to any particular people. You yourself have that in you somewhere as do I, it's just something we've faced and overcame in our own way. But also please be schizophrenic and resentful elsewhere.
>>220685761very cool non-argument. Perfectly predictable response from a capeslopper that defends Nolangarbage.
>>220680173It's going to bomb. Screenshot this
>>220686212I don't like comic book films and I like Nolan even less. I am just stating the truth - nobody here has ever read Chaucer, Homer or Virgil. You may have read some modern adaptation of Grimm's fairy tales, but that's it.
>>220686095Who is we here? I don't lack culture. I have more of it than I can stand. >>220686120There's nothing universalist about what I said. That is how western European languages evolved, translating great works of all sorts. But the history of our literacy itself starts with the Greeks adopting the alphabet from Phoenicians and writing down The Iliad and the Odyssey. It's not "mine" in some sense that I'm holding onto it. Nolan can make his gay film with trannies and Africans and 60 year old Massholes like Damon if he wants. I won't stop him, if that's what you really want anon.
>>220686344You are an angloid. You are ashamed of your ancestors, hence you have to appropriate the mythology of ancient Greeks and Hebrews.
>>220686309That's a fucking absurd claim even these days. Even if 1-2% of the population had read Homer and Chaucer that would be like coming across a Jew or a ginger. There's almost certainly one of those itt (unfortunately).
>>220686388I'm not ashamed of my ancestors, they passed on to me the greatest of literary traditions on this earth. I'm defending it in fact. I love the classics too, it doesn't make them "mine" but the way you frame it is like any retarded third worlder. Your family didn't read Homer to you as a boy? Also heebslop would be launched into the sun if I had any say.
>>220686500>Your family didn't read Homer to you as a boy?No, and neither did yours. You will never Homer.
>>220686514*never read Homer
>>220686309>nobody here has ever read Chaucer, Homer or VirgilUm, incorrect, that shit is taught in high schools, but you're totally the smart one here.
>>220686514De-ESL that post and try again anon. Also that like literally is Anglo culture. We are bookish. Though not exclusive to us perhaps that is our thing. Every member of my extended family had Shakespeare, a KJV Bible and some other classics in their home. It's not a class thing.
>>220686564No chud, no high school teaches Virgil.
>>220686594>reading Homer is Anglo cultureBecause your ancestors were illiterate savages in mudhuts. So now you have to read the ancient literature of other people and claim it as yours.
>>220686424Ginger here. I've also read all three authors mentioned. I had to read Virgil because that asshole Homer just ended the Iliad before the fucking war was over. Oh sure, he glosses over how they won in the Odyssey, but really, what the fuck was he thinking ending The Iliad after Priam's 12 days of mourning? Just imagine being a pleb, sitting in the amphitheater listening to some jerk off reciting the poem, and it just fucking ends before the climactic battle? What a dick
>>220680173That might be true if the costumes didn't look like they were from Spirit Halloween
>>220686658Anglos don't even know which Gods their ancestors worshipped during the time the Homeric epics were composed lmaoThey literally have no epic poetry of their own lmao>b...b...but muh BeowulfThe English didn’t even know Beowulf was supposedly their great national epic until scholars edited and published the lone manuscript in the early 19th century. It had no role in English cultural life.
>>220680173>>220680409>>220685708Homer's Odyssey is mythology, fiction. It didn't actually happen. Therefore it doesn't matter if a black woman is in the cast. You're just seething because you're racist virgins.
>>220686658>wattle and daub shame>nooo don't improve yourself everTime is a flat, brown, retarded circle. >>220686677I have ginger in my beard it was a jest fren. I thought it was invigorating though! Achilles changed but ready as ever to storm the walls, what will happen next? You know, aside from his impending doom that we're told about 100 times before the story ends. I got really hyped up to read the Odyssey after that though, which had a much better ending (I cried (no homo)).
>>220686677>>220686789very sad larping, angloids. it is obvious that you just skimmed wikipedia.
anyone who believes this movie and it's success will harm society and cinema maybe need to be slapped in the face at least once to wake the fuck upreply if you agree.reply if you disagreegive me all your (you)s you idiotsby the waythe nigress does not play helenyou all lose againelen oage also does not play archillesyou all lost againnolan winsfuck youfuck you all bitchesthis is not ragebait because I am being sincere.now reply you faggots
>>220686810I've seen browncope of many shades in my years. But doubting that white men read books is like some new unexplored frontier. All while typing in our language no less. ¡Incredible!
>>220686817Ellen Page as Helen of TroyHe/She de-transitioned just for this role.
>>220685997>le white was just invented as Europeans started traveling around the world, regularly interacting with nonwhites, observing how primitive they are, etc.Dumb shit just warped into yet another strategy to argue that everybody in the world is le same and 100% equal, when they obviously aren't. Go to a website where other people are easily convinced of neo-Sociological horseshit.
>>220686594Literally everyone in my Anglo family is familiar with Shakespeare too, some of us having formally studied him. These Nolan worshiping troons are really fucking dumb.
>>220686789Yeah the part where he reunites with his dad got to me. That and his faithful doggo rising up for his master one last time. Wonder if Nolan will keep the bit where Odysseus has all the traitors of his house hanged when he'a done killing the suitors.
>>220686140>If you're bemoaning the prevalent culture of your people then you're the outlier. The longer you put off getting help the harder it will be to catch back up to your peers. M8, do you really think telling people "Conform! Conform! Conform!" on 4chan is going to get people to shut up?
>>220682020Which is geographicallg adjacent to Greece out of Africa and fucking Shanghai, yank?
>>220687525Imo Nolan picked this movie specifically to subvert. It's literally a story about a man being robbed, and his legacy and his family being pillaged by ungrateful foreigners that he rises up against violently. He also wins. They chose this story to wokify for a reason.I won't watch it of course but they 100% have an agenda. They aren't making this out of love.
>>220680173>yoooo is that travis scott?>FEIN FEIN FEIN>its bussin
im going to buy a ticket for a different movie and then sneak into the odyssey so i can blast smoke detector chirps
>>220683012shakespeare was the da vinci of writing and the stories were good enough for HIM to make troilus and cressida.if the movie is on the level of shakespeare then i cant really say shit but it looks like some crazy woke DEI slop garbage and the girls arent even hot lol
>>220684778This nigga watched a documentary about Star Wars once
>>220685577>Not only have you never read the Odyssey (no one here has), you haven't even read an abridged version or a summary.it would be something you hear, not read. specifically listening for the hexameter
>>220685786>dante alighieri was just we wuzzing
>>220685997>(christianity and pan-europeanism comes from jewish imposed slave morality)nah it comes from stuff like the periodic table where the only people pulling their weight and trying to find new elements was white people
>>220686309i just got through piers plowman so get fucked nigger
>>220686603my high school read dantes inferno and did a short thing on virgil for obvious reasons, we did not read the trilogy but that would have probably taken up too much of the semester
this pos needs to make $0
>>220680173I don't give a fuck what the rest of you fools do the only thing I care about is that I'm not giving Hollywood a single fucking cent to watch this trash.
>>220690219Yeah I'm sure they'll be crying over losing your 20 bucks, retard. Meanwhile this movie is guaranteed to be played in classrooms long after you're dead.
>>220680173They dont have the numbers to make it succesful if we manage to actively boycot it. How can we make boomers not want to watch it?
>>220685997Spartans literally identified as white.
>>220689955>ay Odysseus l'mask u sum main
>>220686770Yeah it might be fiction but they are works with a well stablished canon within classical art and academia, you can't just disrespect all that by putting retard shit onto it just because it's fiction.
>>220685997Okay, but how does this affect you so personally that you are this mad?
>>220686039Getting aroused by the thought of seeing male tears is pretty faggy, desu.
>>220686140Culture is a kike construct. Humans will prevail against that dumbo, fret not. Chez la semper carpe diem memento mori shalom
>>220686038That's a lot of dentists.
>>220686344>We>Oui>Nintendo Wii
>>220692873whats with that fucked up pinkie toe
>>220681822You literally live in the best era any human in history has ever lived in. You are in your prime. You are blowing it in your basement crying. Your entire paternal lineage are facepalming over what an absolute fail at life you are
>>220692873Yeah, we can just look at the holocaust they say there was a kid who could control metal with his mind in Auschwitz and still expect us to take this shit seriously despite how ridiculous that is and in Europe it is actually illegal to question any aspect of it as that is considered "hate speech".
>>220690965Why did Nolan lace Ledger's shit? What did he have to gain by murdering him?
>>220687706Ching chong bing sing song yankee doodle went to town and rided on a my little pony in Grease he singed in a car and left with the girl he groomed.
>>220686872Shakespeare was an oppressed black woman
>>220681742>northman wasn't terriblethat one bombed too. same with last duel. historical shit tends to bomb.unironically the last one that didn't completely bomb was the 300 sequel and even that wasn't like a smash hit or anything
I've never read any Greek classics aside from my brief phase in High School when I wanted to try to LARP as enlightened and tried the Odyssey but got bored of it pretty quick.
>>220680173If I ever watch this movie, I'll prepare myself mentally to watch it as a comedy, every time that that black woman appears I force myself to think in one of those trashy trap songs from niky minaj, the moment that that trans person presents as aquiles I will laugh my ass at it because for me is a comedy, think like, nolan decided to make a comedy for '''''''''''''''''''''''''modern audiences'''''''''''''''''''''''''' like the waylons and scary movie saga, it'll be fun.
>>220694460>i'll cope
>>220686770and yet all those niggers and kikes can't dream up their own stories filled with nigs and kikesthey have to invade white peoples imaginations, since they are creativly bancrupt
>>220686038>unrelated fanfiction about whitesthis reeks of jeet or jew
>>220694770They have just as much of a claim to the story as you do
>>220680173History is whatever we want it to be. There are nearly no physical records. We can do whatever we want chud. Black tranny knights forever.
>>220694869i don't think so, since they have little to nop respect for the creative work of their bettersif they would have made a odyssee in africa, with an all nigger cast, i would not have objected, like i didn't when i saw "o brother were are thou?"but i must applaud you that you didn't disagree with me that niggers and kikes are bad at story writing
>>220694898At this point, who fucking cares, I suggest Gosling to interpret that nigroid Floyd for the upcoming biography.
>>220694940Oh it's you. Still waiting on your answer >>220683012
oh well, thankfully it's still going to be kino
>>220694979you can't see the difference between shitting on a source material and respecting itwhat is wrong with you?>claim a storyyour mindset is totally fucked, only operating on a power basis it seemsimagine a wall, pristine and freshly whitewashed, as the wall's builder intendedthen, next day, some punks "claimed" the wall and put their vile spray shit on itand faggots like you are like "those punks have the same right to claim this wall", destroying/damaging the wall in the process, making it free for all to piss and spray and demolish the wall as they pleasei hope you get it now
>>220695052Lot of words for "I don't"
>>220695085okay, so niggers and hollywood kikes have a claim, but i don'tgot it
>>220695117what do they have to do with you?
