Please help a chud out, I'm confused Hollywood is telling me white people bad while they're also telling me black people were kings and sheit. Which one is it?
Troy was kino. A man's movie.
>>220683554>White people are evilAt least they are people.
>>220683148>black people were kingsso they were having slaves?
>>220683148I thought woke was supposed to be dead
>>220683554You’re evil you dickless freak. Slit your wrists and end your parents humiliation.
The fact that people didn't wise onto Nolan being a hack after Tenet and Oppenheimer and were actually excited for this is beyond me
If black people did all the white people things wouldn’t that make black people the evil white people?
>>220683148>MASTERCLASS247Fuck off, griftoid.
>>220683148Wait is that AI?Tf am i watching lol
>>220683148Why are the guards wearing togas?
Neither look like actual Greeks pic rel are the most famous Greek actor of all time, and the most famous Greek singer
>>220685604>using modern day mutts as examples
>>220683554My culture is not your costume, bitch
>>220684202I remember watching the dark knight with my dad for the first time. Even back then in 2008 or whatever he was like “what’s the big deal with this? This movie is retarded in every way”
>>220683814Mali be like
>>220685604Or like picrel. He fits more of the “greek god” stereotype
>>220685604The 1400s AD was a very sad turning point for the Greek people and it has only gotten worse.
>>220683554My culture is not your costume, bigot
>>220685624>>220686110Yes it is. I'll mix medieval plate armor with a dashiki and top it off with a feather headdress.
>>220685604Greeks before Constantinople fell were described as very fair, of flaxen hair, etc. etc. you get the point.
>>220683148neither one looks right
>>220686462Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if the Muslim conquests of Europe between ~700 to around 1400 had all been repelled
>>220685604No, this is what they look like
>>220683148>WASPs>Greek
>>220683148The answer is they hate white people and they hate success in general, but if you’re a failure, it doesn’t forgive your whiteness. Conflict is probably like 99% inevitable with these people unfortunately because they’re fanatics. You can’t reason with them because they even view reason itself as white, western, and privileging of logic. These people hate you and everyday, they log into social media and get fentanyl strength propaganda to hate you even further.
>>220686462Indians described themselves as “fair” in the Bhagavad Gita
>>220683148Neither is Greek btw
>>220683148Neither sets of actors are greeks so I dont really get the difference. Greeks didnt really look like anglo saxons/north european ethnicities either
>>220687147Certain castes are indeed lighter than others. Even today the lightest indians look like arabs. As for the Greek description, other europeans also described the greeks as such - fair, flaxen, etc.
>>220687285>other europeansThe Romans, yeah. Who described themselves as “fair” too. The same dude who described Helen of Troy as having blonde hair also described the sea as being the color of wine (“wine-dark waves”)
>>220683148trojans weren't greek kekistani retard
>>220687841They literally were you retards, try reading some Homer or archaeoogy journals sometime
>>220684202I thought something was up when i noticed he was ripping off anime (satoshi kon's work when he made inception, makoto shinkai's work when he made interstellar).
>>220685620oh no, you gave the retard a (you)
>>220687810The gauls and the celts and the teutons and the iberians and the hibernians were described as such too and eventually they became roman just like the greeks were.
>>220683814oy vey
>>220685604Troy was in Turkey, though So they looked something like this
>>220683148>I'm confused Hollywood is telling me white people bad while they're also telling me black people were kings and sheit. Which one is it?https://x.com/romanhelmetguy/status/2052452272961900553This 3-minute video explains why they do what they do.
>>220687147Fundamentally, everyone wants to be white. Actual White people generally don’t call themselves fair the way Chinese and Indians and Greeks do. Wealtheow in Beowulf is called fair, but the old English word, “freolicu,” means noble, not pale. Paleness simply isn’t a notable feature if most people aren’t brown
>>220687871Trojans were Anatolians, probably Luwians
>>220683554Trojan war is based on a real war, that got exaggerated over time through oral tradition.
>>220687871Trojans were almost certainly Luwians. Names like Paris are of Luwian origin. and the area Troy was in was mostly inhabited by Luwians,
>>220683148In real life, Troy wasn't even a major power. They were vassals to the Hittites.
>>220687938Why do you idiots not realize that modern day turkey was conquered by the Muslims a thousand years later and modern Turks look nothing like what they did back then
>>220683148>I'm confused Hollywood is telling me white people bad while they're also telling me black people were kings and sheit.They are not, what you are viewing is not the product of academic research but a form of entertaintment. I know you people have trouble telling fact from fiction, parody from truth, and are more likely to get scammed than other political demographics if the words "truth, patriot or freedom" are used, also harder time to tell AI from reality, but this is not the product of academic study nor concensus.
>>220688257>it's just entertainment bro it's not that serious why do you care so much it's just a movieNah we've heard that line six million times already and it is never less subversive than the last.
>>220688310The counter is: post academic proof that cites a movie or tv show as source for historical information.
If representation matters, why then, are these people representing these so-called Greeks?
>>220688326As much as I'd like to believe him >>220688257, reality is most people are retarded and they will base their "knowledge" from the media they consume.
>>220688339It’s fucked up. None of the principal cast in Nolan’s film is of Greek descent. Matt Damon is entirely Western European There are lots of Greek actors so there’s no excuse for this
>>220685604>>220686608>>220687026>>220687152>>220687164Neither may be Greek, but Greeks look far more similar to Anglo-Saxons and Nordics than they do sub-Saharan Africans. A Northern European could pass for a Southern European as vice versa but a Bantu never could.
I think if you ask any Greek today they will say they have more of a connection with the Byzantine (Christian) Empire rather than ancient (pagan) Greece. For some reason other Europeans(especially Brits) seem to be enamored with that Hellenistic period of their history, much more so than the others.
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>>220683148Didn't you get the memo?
>>220688396Maybe it's just because I'm Swedish but I don't actually think these people could pass for Northern European
>>220688511Not anymore.
>>220687147Some Indian castes (usually Kshatriya and Brahmin) are noticeably paler than others, as well as northern Indians being paler than southern.
>>220688223Modern Turks are Turkified Anatolians ,they are descendants of Hittities, Trojans etc.
>>220685941>This movie is retarded in every way”TDK is a strange flick. Watched again this year, not very good at all.
>>220688693Good joke.
>>220688856Do you think Ancient Anatolians just vanished after Turks took over? No, they simply got assimilated.
>>220688381Since when are moorish turk rape babies """Greek"""? I might cede you Balkan phenotype, or swarthy gulf arab.
So this whole casting shitshow is just for the awards?
>>220683148they used to make money off of DVD sales but now that they don't they need to rely on the global box office and yuropeans won't watch a movie unless it has blacks, faggots and/or troons
>>220685604>Neither look like actual Greeks> pic rel are the most famous Greek actor of all time, and the most famous Greek singer
>>220688511Just make them less tan and make their hair blond and they canMeanwhile, not skin color change will ever make Subsaharan look anything close from Greeks or Anglos
>>220683148The fact that leftoids are so intent on blackwashing ancient Greece into niggers really does mean the ultimate plan is to make the foundation of Western civilization into niggers so they can destroy the White Race completelyAfter they finish greece they will move on to Rome with Black Caesar and Black AugustusWe might see Black Beethoven threated as historical 'fact' by the (((mainstream))) by 2050Its just gradual rewriting of history piece by piece to support future Leftoid goals>um chud western civilization was founded by black people, it was the christian nazis that ruined it!You will see genuine ''arguements'' like this from the left in your lifetimeGet ready
>>220686462>greekz wuz nordzThere are Greek islands like Naxos that had minimal turkish populations, and people there just look like >>220685604The ethnicity of the actors is secondary to the intent, Troy 2004 had its problems but it was somewhat respectful to the setting. Nolan's movie is obviously just trying to vandalize the source material (no Gods in an Odyssey movie?).
>>220683148>steel shafts and golden laurelsCan they get one solitary thing right about this movie?
>>220685604>greeks look like this>post 70 year olds
SAAARS ARABS ARE WHITE SAAARS
>>220690234Nobody was saying they were nords. It isn't just nords that have that phenotype.
>>220683148>implying the Greeks were white>implying they were black neither of these are correct, really should be a combination of these two
>>220683148Ancient Greeks for the modern audience are played by a prehistoric race
>>220690603no they were white and Aryan, they hadnt been raped by Turks yet. fucking faggot
>>220687938So injuns during cowboy times looked like modern Californians?
>>220686983For a Scot, he did look fairly Greek.
>>220686983Not sure if sarcastic or retarded.The difference is 300 is a myth and Odyssey is history
>>220688223>>220688693The Greeks conquor the Turks. The Turls conquored the Greeks. Our DNA has flowed back and forth so much, I can't be bothered to nitpick. Hell. Alexander made it all the way to the edge of modern India. The Ptolomaics and Byzantines had much of that land until the Ottoman rule. And through all yhose kingdoms, those were some of the busiest trade routes of the ancient world. Ancient Greeks and Turks were fairly diverse for their era, even if it doesn't fit the artificial diversity and tokenism of Hollywood today.
>>220683148Trojans were not Greeks. They were Anatolians.
>>220690724>Not sure if sarcastic or retarded.Same with you. You have that backwards. 300, while fictionalized and stylized, was based more on history than the Odyssey or even Troy. The Trojan War was historical, but long befoee the more recent Battle of Thermopalye. For a while Troy was lost and thought to be more myth, but archiologists did find it in like the 1800s or thereabout.
>>220690780Anatolians were Greek you idiot, the Ottomans were Mongolian Steppe people
>>220690780Anatolia is rightful Greek clay. As is Macedonia and parts of Albania. Don't make me use the Windex.
>>220690603We have beautiful olive skin blessed by the sun god Apollo. Well... I would if I went outaide in yhe sun and didn't spend all day pale and sickly shitposting on an Oriental cartoon forum all day.
Interestingly enough, one real life Trojan king had a name Alaksandu, which is from a Greek name Alexander, which suggest Troy had a heavy Greek influence.
>>220690746>>220687938Turks didn't arrive in the region until the 14th-15th century anon, it's like claiming Spaniards are native to Mexico
>>220690947They assimilated the already existing Anatolian population.
>>220685604Do you think the most beautiful woman in the world would have looked the same as all the other Greeks?
>>220687938Troy was in Anatolia, not in Turkey. And the Turks aren't native to Anatolia either, their national mythology says they are from central Asia.
>>220690971The Turks forcibly converted the Native populations to Islam, and when they weren't forcibly converting the Christians, the Turks imposed heavy taxes(plural) because the Jidzya tax was not the only tax thenChristians had to pay. Also, the Turks would attack and raid their Christian subjects despite supposedly being under dhimmi status. Only real relief from heavy Turkish taxes and Turkish violence was by converting to Islam. The Turkish national myth says the Turks liberated Anatolia from heavy Byzantine taxes, but the Turks were the reason why the Byzantine taxes were so high.
>>220690806The Ottomans were a Seljuk Turkish group named after their leader, Osman(what a narcissist). The Turks came from Central Asia, probably near China and Mongolia but weren't really Mongolian although they did share the same religion of Tengrism before some of the Turks converted to Islam, other Turks went with Buddhism and others became Christians.
>>220691187Oh, forgot that the royalty of the Khazar Turks converted to Judaism.
>>220688693Plenty of Armenians share ancestry with the ancient peoples of Anatolia and are direct descendants of the Ancient Anatolians who helped build many of the cities of the Hittites and Phrygians, and the Armenians had a lot of trade and cultural exchanges with the Lydians. Armenians and Greeks have more claim to Anatolia than the Turks do.
>>220691187whats that have to do with my point? also The Ottomans were funded by the Jews to take down the City of God anyways
