Explain 40K to me in a nutshell.
>>220685894No. If you aren't an expert in the established lore yet, then you do not deserve to know it.
I don't know, something about Chaos Gods and a God Emperor
>>220685894>war is eternal>you are just as usefull as you are in said war>never question the authoritiesIt is meant as a warningThe same people who don't get Starship Troopers get filtert by W40k
>>220685894Learning about it is one of the funnest parts, venomtide and darktide vidya and the tabletop sims are great as well. You can also read books and paint the models. Don’t get too caught up on space marines, they’re cool but a very small fraction of the universe.
>>220685894Okay, meet at the nutshell in five minutes.
>>220686067Making it political wrecks it, don’t be like this gay buttfuck.
>>220685894Super soldiers fight aliens (who are all corrupt versions of classic fantasy races) and demons led by four different Mtn Dew flavors of Cthulhu on behalf of Cyber Alexander the Great. The main weapons are psychic racism and ancient technology from thousands of years in the future.
>>220685894It's nonsensical derivative trash for incels who live their messed up fantasies vicariously through it
For me? It’s the White Consuls.
>>220685894Jesus clones himself and they fly around in space and spread the good word. Then one of the clones mortally wounds him and the Christians bring him to earth and put him on a throne to keep him alive and he uses his mind to help his followers fight space satan and beat up pagans and atheists.
It's 30K but 10,000 extra years of nothing really changing that much
Dune + Starship Troopers
>>220685894So a crashlands on a backwater agroworld
>>220686119I'm not 12, just cool bumm-bumm guys don't cut it for meThe lore was created by leftist hippies high on LSD, to deny its 'politically' is basicly to deny realityIf you care abt the lore. If you just want to paint Minis and cool Guys, go ahead
>>220685894It's pretty much reddit meets netflix meets globohomo feminism. Basically it's feminism the game made to hypnotise the player into thinking "white men bad" and "POC women good". There isn't really much more to this dreary franchise than that.
>>220686146Quiet, pussy child.
>>220686203>The lore was created by leftist hippies high on LSDSource?
>>220685894>Explain 40K to me in a nutshell."Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see"
>>220685894It's like Gears of War in space, or something IDK I've only played Space Marine II and thought it was GoW at first.
>>220685894Neckbeards.
>>220686152I'm a Sororitas Enjoyer
>>220686203It’s completely subjective, just like starship troopers, don’t try to gatekeep it like Redditors do with ST
>>220685987For me it's top right and bottom left.
>>220685894Ape together strong, but deranged heretics and filthy aliens want to tear apes apart
>>220685894it's just WoW in space. that's literally it. just another tolkien rip-off with a twist.
>>220686317Zoomer take
>>220686317Wow ripped off hp lovecraft you moron
>>220685987I only know Khornette and Slaneesh. Who are the other two? I'm kind scared to hear about Mommy Nurgle.
>>220686260>It’s completely subjective
>>220686365>uh ackshully it's more than World of Warcraft! >*pushes glasses up on nose* while looking physically distressedlmao have sex millienialcuck
>>220685894HERE YOU MOTHERFUCKER:"It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor of Mankind has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the master of mankind by the will of the gods and master of a million worlds by the might of His inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the vast Imperium of Man for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day so that He may never truly die.Yet even in His deathless state, the Emperor continues His eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in His name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst His soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever-vigilant Inquisition and the Tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat to humanity from aliens, heretics, mutants -- and far, far worse.To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods." And if you are too stupid to read, watch the video:https://youtu.be/cy4CJ4F-epA
>>220686146but enough about you.
>>220686421I don't wear glasses, i have aryan hunter eyes.Hah, i could be your dad little bubby.Blizzard obviously took inspiration from a lot of different things, some of it from the warhammer universe.
It's the spiritual sequel to Frasier
>>220686420All art is subjective the artist can’t force you to view it a certain way, that’s why it’s art. Still waiting on the source of these hippies tripping balls when they invented Warhammer btw.
>>220685894A immortal super psychic human tries to protect humanity against aliens and demons by creating a luddite roman catholic empire.
>>220686203You just a faggot retard and in fact the dumbest motherfucker in the room, and you will never see why because you're that stupid. Kill yourself.
>>220685894Sci-fi but everything is exaggerated to sometimes comical proportions, but the overall design and aesthetic is strong enough that it doesn't become an outright parody (most of the time). The focus of major media projects is obviously humans and the flagship product of space marines, but the universe probably has something somewhere you'll find interesting if you're not into the usual stuff you see.
>>220686203The lore is too much of a mess to really have a cohesive direction. There are definitely elements of it that are satire, but a lot of it is just a random mish mash of ideas and stuff from other IPs that they blatantly ripped off
>>220686317WoW is far more cynical when it comes to its general contempt for humanity.
>>220686389Tzeentch is an AI model that scammed people with an OF account. Mommy Nurgle is just some fatty who does ASMR, maybe someone like Lily Phillips or Bonnie Blue would be better for Mommy Nurgle.
>>220686502>Even the Ork player understands the math doesn't add up
>>220686724How so?
>>22068589440K is a perversion of an old miniature series derived from a second or third generation iteration of popular fantasy art which could be easily referred to by the name of the artists or lazily by saying "2000AD", which itself is a company that also is a perversion of its previous self.It is ultimately a plastic and paint company that sells the experience of having a hobby to teenage boys and adult men who don't particularly have the time to actually perform that hobby. It also sells rules for a gambling game using the plastic as chess pieces, licences books, video games, and has a subscription service.Despite attempting to appeal to the modern audience, its core audience could be called Chuds with space marines being something evil Russians and evil Italians adore. Perhaps owing this to the christian themes and values of the art that don't really mesh well with women and hormone pill poppers.There is an overly large, or perhaps simply loud internet following that doesn't really matter. They are obsessed with the surface level fluff, or "lore", and may play a video game here or there, provided it's good (i.e. they are fans of good products, not Warhammer), but don't put much money towards the hobby itself. They are a good indication of how the current owners of and workers at Warhammer 40K LTD think.Some people call it a satire, because it sounds adult to say such a thing, when it's just a fictional toy line for manchildren, though that might also be why it's erred so much in the past decade.
>>220686724Why are you just telling him the opposite?
>>220686317The original warcraft was created to be a Warhammer game but they didn't get the rights so they released as warcraft instead of warhammer
>>220685894Its basically Event Horizon if all the interstellar transport started a war with the lovecraft beings.I think there are robot androids thrown in somewhere
>>220687039> 40K is a perversion of an old miniature series derived from a second or third generation iteration of popular fantasy art which could be easily referred to by the name of the artists or lazily by saying "2000AD", which itself is a company that also is a perversion of its previous self.What? Isn’t 40k just a future version of Warhammer fantasy?
>>220685894a 15ft tall golden glowing man named The Emperor with powers that would traditionally be attributed to a god but who is a fedora who insists he isnt one and there are none invents approximately 18-21 Primarchs, super human super soldiers that also serve as the genetic source of organic 3d printer files for even more smaller super soldiers called space marines, forming legions. However some bullshit occurs and the Primarchs get dumped accros the milky way because evil space magic.So Emps launches The Great Crusade to find them. He probably does mostly we think. However he was a shitty dad and his kids except the inexplicably mongolian one are all little snot nosed shits for the most part. One day due to more magic bullshit and the fact half Emps kids ended up being fully grown angsty teen shits his fav son Horus Heresy starts the Horus Heresy, a fuck off big civil war in service to Chaos, a faction of 80s death metal album cover villains, that ruined everything so now Emps is stuck on a golden magic toilet/life support system unable to directly do diddly as everything is now horrible for everyone forever and also hes worshipped as a god by humanity and hes seething about it probably. Also the space elves fucked a god of sex into existence theres a really bad fugus issue galaxy wide, some nasty bugs, and spooky scary metal space egyptian skeletons whos faction MC is a kleptomaniac and some blue fish people and normal humans are now a horde faction.
>>220687668Yes but it's easier to say 40K is a perversion of its oldest, most recognisable self when literally everything was established (other than the weeb faction) than to instead say>11th ed is a refinement of 10th ed>10th ed is where it died>if you weren't here for when it died in 6th>if you weren't here for when it died in 4th>if you weren't here for when it died in 2nd>if you weren't here for when it was the abortion known as rogue trader stealing everything from fantasy>if you weren't here for wargaming with kitbashed redcoat and prussian lead soldiers
>>220685894Watch Titus (1999), Starship Troopers (1997) and Event Horizon (1997). That should give you all info you need.
>>220686067The Robert Heinlein book? That's a piece of self-indulgent fantasy!
>>220688353Starship troopers is virtually nothing like Warhammer, but retards will think so because they think war=warhammer and hence the Spanish CNT were literally the Imperium of Man
Uhh fears and hopes manifest as power.The God Emperor conquered earth and brought humanity to the stars.They battle vs the fears of aliens and man that breed from their psyche.The God Emperor was betrayed like how Lucifer betrayed God.God emperor won but at a great cost.Humanity now battles for +10k years after the fall. The emperor is forever injuried and sits in his throne keeping the powers at be with the belief of humanity behind him and his own superhuman Will.
>In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only warThat's pretty much it
>>220685894Basically the Anti-Star Trek. Optimism in the future through scientific progress and mutual understanding is a lie. In the future there is only war.
>>220685894world war 2 nazi germany + ancient rome + religion vs aliens and demons in space
>>220685894There is too much shit going on for one tiny nutshell retard.
>>220686216do you ever just listen to yourself
Watch this video ironically made by AI:>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoWfZNmuorc
lore status?
>>220688533I was thinking Carolginian space Nazis + Egyptian Gnostic terminator post-nuclear holocaust + the Thing-Cthulhu + Tolkein on trenbolone + Hellenic Industrial revolution + Angel vampire knights + super Hell, all dialed to 11 and overpowered but then it dawned on me that even all of this barely scratches the surface of a small number of factions and chapters. It can't possibly fit into a nutshell. No way.
>tfw if you were in 40k you would probably be a servitor
>>220688623/ourguy/ is on the case
>>220688655>this can of corpse starch thinks he’d be anything other than something else’s mealLol
>>220688623Lore? Guarded. Word? Beared.Faith? Unyielding.
>>220688655One of the best pleb filters of 40k is that no one really wants to self-insert in the lore kek. Imagine just be an autonomous drone doing menial things for subsistence your whole life, never escaping or being able to follow your dreams, those of which you have time for and have not been deliberately stripped away from you like the hours of your life. All extracted in an artificially prolonged and hellish, gruelling world where literal demons thrive on all impulse and suffering. That is so unlike our lives lmao. Who would want that? Not I sir.
>>220688655Why does I be?>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z65rDDrXfjY
>>220688655Most of us would be loser planet settlers living in a hellscape who have no idea wtf xenos even are until one day a tyranid is sucking your brains out
>>220688822There’s a bunch of autists out there thinking they’d be primarchs or the emperor himself who could table anyone in one turn and cite pages of the black library at you. The coolest people of the community are the one or two random dudes who just poke their heads in for a game or two a month with a cool army or war and and fuck off. You’ll meet some of the chillest dudes but some of the most snazzy fucks too. I’ve found the more tourney sweaty play you look for the worse it is. Play something like necromunda or Mordheim or even blood bowl and you’ll meet some of the most chad of dudes. Just recently a fire fighter with six fucking kids smoked my ass with his corpse grinder cult. Asked me if I was free Memorial Day weekend for beers and grilling. I didn’t think hormones existed in the fan base.
>>220688915I've had my army for like 10 years and only played like 10 games. Game store people annoy me and I don't know anyone who plays
>>220688987You just gotta find the right store. Find a discord group or some kinda game finder. Try to vet your players by being open what kinda game you’re looking for. “Trying a new memelist nothing sweaty lol” or “prepping for a tourney bring some real tight sweaty shit”. It was three years since I started painting before I found this necromunda campaign and started really having a blast.
Take whatever media you like, and multiply it by 50 billion. 40k's entire shtick is being louder, more gruesome, and grindarker.Your setting has a planet destroying weapon? Well 40k does that daily because if they don't LE DEMONS come out and rape everyone.Your setting has a serial killer? Well 40k has Glib Glob the anal champion of fuck, who murderrapes 123 trillion people per second and locks their souls away in his personal dimension of ultramurderrape.Your setting has guns? Well 40k's average armament is a fully automatic rifle that fires 800mm warheads filled with explosives, depleted uranium, ballsack hair from a fallen god and holy water.Anytime you have any discussion about fictional media, a 40kfag will materialize out of thin air to explain how GRIMDERK 40k is.TLDR: If anyone asks what 40k is about, just say "Space ultramurderrape". They'll understand.
>>220685987You should be burned alive unironically
>>220689105that sounds pretty cool actually
>>220685987I deserve to have sex with all of them and impregnate them.
>>220688915>I didn’t think hormones existed in the fan baseKek. Yeah there are some great frens out there this has been pretty much my experience. The more engaged they are with events or whatever the worse it seems to get.
>>2206859874 (a real woman ) >>>>> 2 > 3 > 1
Turns out you can shortcut space travel by using wormholes through hell. Turns out that using wormholes through hell makes you susceptible to space demons. Turns out that there are worse threats than space demons in space. Turns out that to survive in space, you have to abandon what made you human to begin with.That's 40k in a nutshell
>>220688666i cant believe it, he seems to not just be acting in this but hes actually guarding the lore.
japan
Rip-off ideas from multiple sci-fi IPs, sprinkle them with gothic edge, and present it as your ownThat would be $999.
>>220689446Dont forget to sue-rape anyone that does the same to your brand.
>>22068910540k is pretty low level and is very obviously geared towards skirmishes that make zero sense in universe when singular ships can destroy planets.Most ""serious"" sci-fi blows it out of the water powerlevel wise.
>>220688655>>220688822You wouldn't be a jedi in Star Wars. In Lord of the Rings you would be a dirt farmer who got eaten by the orcs. In Die Hard you would learn about the events of the movie from the news. What argument even is this.
>>220685894>praise the emperor>kill the heretic
>>220686449So…gothic, in space?
>>220687039Oh, and it’s also a cult
>>220686143
>>220687717>The Emperor?Ok, imagine Glen Danzig being like, 15-18ft tall instead of 5’2” and having been born in 8000 BC being the physical incarnation of EVERY holy person ever in one body and basically looking like he headbands forever.
>>220685894gay nerd stuff
>>220689460>HOW DARE YOU WRITE A KID'S BOOK ABOUT ARMORED SPACE SOLDIERS DONT YOU KNOW WE OWN THAT IDEA????
>>220685894its warhammer 40000 inside of a nut shell
>>220687717Oh and anime like noseless people whose tech looks like basic non descriptive from Gundam or Robotech who are matriarchal iirc
>>220688382No, that’s The Moon is a Harsh Mistress or worse, Friday.
>>220685894Bongs satirizing Western civilization as something that started out as a Fedora Utopia and then turned into an evil le Nazi Christian society but set in 40,000 year future so they can have Knights in massive battlearm to make shekels off of manchildren with large disposable incomes
>>220689492>argumentThat's what you think is happening?
Someone please explain The Orcs?
>>220689797Norfs but they are pandemic fungus men with a galactic loicense to crump yer 'ead in
>>220689548No anon. No.
>>220689797In short.They're psyonics that operate subconsciously. They're so good at it that they never had to think critically. So they're ironically the most powerful race, inhibited entirely by the fact that they don't actually have a clue what they're doing and just go off of their emotions
>>220690087Hence the “Waaaaaaggggghhhhh!”? I am starting to get >>220689852 now.
>>220689797Mushroom people who can just imagine that their guns and tanks work and then they do
>>220686235GoW was a rip-off of Borehammer 40k
>>220689537The cultists are growing bolder.
those giant battle cruisers covered in gargantuan spires and cathedrals and skulls are so fucking dank, some of the coolest ships ever
>>220690119Yeah.The waaagh is basically a critical mass is emotional frenzy. It's kinda like locusts
>>220685894
>>220689492>You wouldn't be a jedi in Star WarsMaybe you wouldn't, pleb trash
>>220690311Ok, how about The Tau? Looks like a later addition to the story
Might as well ask this since it's an anonymous thread. Waaagh is supposed to be a mispronunciation of war right?
>>220690444designed by some fag to get slants into the game. much like that one asian primarch.
>>220690474Yes, anon. Half the orc words are mispronounciations. It's pretty obvious pattern with them.
>>220685894The lore is a big joke lost on massive retards ,the games sucks but the minis are cool.
>>220690444The tau is kinda weird meta commentary.Narratively speaking, they're the plucky underdog that managed to avoid abandoning their "taumanity" in their travel to the stars. They're hypothetically what humanity should have been in any other science fiction. Going by manifest destiny, it seems like if there's a God beyond the GodEmperor, then it really favors them. But it's hard to root for them because of all the races, they're the most naive and sacrificed the least
>>220685894If there was any kind of television or film adaptation it would be very cringeSimilar to that live action one piece show, it would hurt to watch and wouldn’t work
>>220685894Orcs in motherfucking space.
>>220690591So, Japan?
>>220690591It's hard to root for them because they're mary sues who are immune to all the horrors of the setting and contradict its whole premise.
>>220690694>Henry Cavill, who’s whole stated purpose to become an actor, is making a live action adaptation of>One Piece, the only live action anime adaptation that has ever gained traction because it’s actually funNot all is misery and “the fans are fucking idiots” anon.
>>220690779well, I hate fun. I only like misery.
>>220686067>It is meant as a warningNo it wasn't. It was a bunch of guys making a tabletop wargame with cool shit jammed in it from a bunch of other properties. They did not set out to make some 2deep4u statement about life.
anyone else think space marines look really stupid?
>>220690891I guess.
>>220690811We welcome you, here is sanctuary.
>>220690832Isn’t that also how The Expanse started?
>>220690891No, just basically 90s Cable in power armor.
>>220685894faggot shit for faggot tabletops retardsit consumes their souls, once usable and flexible table top gamers get sucked into the vortex of awfulness that is 40K, and then your whole tabletop group implodes as everything now revolves around the dying black hole garbage fire that is 40Ks lore, gameplay, balance, and constant lore rape. anyone who says otherwise is 80IQ
>>220690996I have no idea, all I know about The Expanse is that it was a book series and then a tv show and apparently there's gonna be a mass effect knockoff of it, I haven't engaged with either.
>>220690733Well yeah. That's kinda what I said
>>220690591Ok, the green skeleton tech dudes?
>>220688463Who the fuck plays Tau?
>>220690731Yeah. You might as well be painting Gundam models.
>>220691210>>220690479 it would seem
For me, it's the Egyptian like terminator robots who enslaved the gods that tricked them and ripped away their mortal souls.
>>220690733I like Tau for no other reason than they show how fucked up humanity is even being the morally right ones. Tau is shallow to give the space marines depth.
>>220691620Very short messure anon
Necrons (nucrons) are gay.Tau are gay.Votan are gay.Primaris are gay.Nuprimarchs are gay.Actually, basically anything that's come out of GW the last decade or two is pretty damn gay. So I think we can safely conclude that,WH40K is gay.
>>220692182What about the Eldar?
>>220685894Terminator happened. Aliens happened. Predator happened. Independence Day happened. Pick your end of the world scenario movie - it all happened at some point between now and year 40,000, and the survivors managed to somehow conquer most of the Galaxy at cost of losing most of their humanity.Oh, and Cthulhu is real and he fucking hates you.
>>220692347The eldar are miserable, worthless, and inevitably doomed, and thus perfectly aligned with 40K's core aesthetic. They might even get bonus points from nobody liking them IRL either.
>>220690591>aliens with a strict caste system being mind controlled by the select few on top who are probably mind controlled by a malicious alien who is functionally a god>good guysLol. Ethereals are as evil as any Imperial, it's just that Tau care about optics while Imperium or Eldar don't.
>>220685894everyone is racist against everyone else, including themselves
>>220685894Bland attempt at turning what was essentially 1600s Europe but edgy and fantasy into a futuristic setting, aping Dune, Starship Troopers, and WOTW.Was never good, will never be.
>>220692545also 2000AD and a lot of lovecraft too
>>220685894Gas the kikes (in space).
>>220692545Oh shit, an actual grognard
The only thing I know is these niggas ain't even human so who idgaf if you can copy pasta garillions of these niggas
