>what if superman was LE EVEIL?>BECAUSE ITS NEVER. BEEN. DONE. BEFORE!>HAHA HE LITERALLY ATE A BABY THATS SO FUCKING HARDCORE>YEAH TAKE THAT BRIAN TRY GIVING ME A SWIRLIE WHILE YOURE CHOKING ON YOUR OWN FUCKING GUTS>FUCK YOU DAD!
>>220686549STFU pajeet.
>>220686549To be fair, other than actual alt-universe versions of Superman, it was more unique when the comic started 20 years ago.
>>220686549But that's not evil Superman, that's an evil clone who was created to gaslight regular Superman into becoming evil.
>>220686549>>HAHA HE LITERALLY ATE A BABY THATS SO FUCKING HARDCOREno he didn'this evil clone did
>>220686549That's what no one wants to think about - what if superman was evil? Think about it: he's nigh-omnipotent, and morality doesn't play into his power level. If he chose to enslave humanity, we'd be powerless to stop him. That would make someone like Lex Luthor appear very heroic.
Who are you quoting?
>>220686571>pajeetThose are the main demographic for this sort of slop, kek.
>>220686549>what if superman was LE GAY>BECAUSE ITS NEVER. BEEN. DONE. BEFORE!>HAHA HE LITERALLY ATE A SHIT THAT'S SO HARDCORE>YEAH TAKE THAT BRIAN TRY GIVING ME A BLOWIE WHILE YOURE CHOKING ON YOUR OWN FUCKING DICK>I fuck my dad
The whole point of the comic is that he isn't Superman but evil. It's not a brilliant comic but it handles Homelander very well, far better than the slop I've seen come out of the show.
>>220686668Imagine saying that's the point. The point is that humans are disgusting malevolent beasts, a fact that is amplified by greater personal agency
>>220686605... Which was exactly Lex's rationalization in BvS. But you /co/cksuckers told me that was supposed to be a bad movie...
>>220686696What you're saying is an analysis, not a point, which is normally in reference directly to the plot. Keep up dumdum.
>>220686549Surprise comic books are made by and for manchildren with extremely shallow ideas
>>220686549>>what if superman was LE EVEIL?>posts picture of batmanYou're Mexican
>>220687409The analysis IS the point. Dont meta-argue with me, kid. Youre way outta your league.
>>220686549>what if superman was LE DEGENERATE HOMOSEXUAL?
>>220686549>what if superman was retarded?
>>220686549>what if superman was LE EVEIL?They've literally done this multiple times in their own comics already. Ultraman, Injustice version, etc.
Excuse me sir
>>220687512Thats one thing the comic kept about homelander... he doesnt drink smoke or bang hookers. He is borderline asexual/autosexual... only attracted to himself
*click* *click*Yup this one is going into my suck dick and eat shit compilation.
>>220687632This plotpoint is made 20x gayer with AI images... like dude who needs a vlone just photoshop that shit
>>220687662>he thinks that ai
>>220687662That's not AI lmao
>>220686549You know how a lot of RPGs end with the hero fighting God or some similar equivalent to that?Superman but evil is like that
>>220687677>>220687698Huh? I said who needs a hyper realistic clone for staged pictures when you have a hyper realistic AI?
>>220687766Vought would be very protective of artist rights, they would refuse to use AI
>>220687662Blaaaaaack Noooooir wanted to do those things
>>220686549wrong again, it's>what if superman was grown as a marketable product by an evil jewish corporation>what if superman was just some asshole celeb that can get away with anything just by being a celeb>in fact, what if all heroes where just like celebs
>>220686549This is the exact reason I never bothered watching the goys when it first came out. Turns out I was in the right for that lol
>>220686549I'm an old man and 'Superman but evil' was old hat long before I was born.
this twist was batshit retarded but at least it was interesting, in the show they just do the same thing they tried to do all the time and it's boring
>>220686668Homelander went crazy, for no reason. Bravo ennus
>>220688458He was gaslit into doing heinous shit. That's the backstory of Final Fantasy VII's villain as well.
>>220686710It is a bad movie. Terrible even but that doesn’t mean the sentiment is wrong. Just that Synder blows.
>>220686549For all the shittiness of the comic at least it understood that Homelander or any supers for that matter isn't the problem but just a symptom. By focusing on Homelander the show missed the point.
>>220686668The comic is a giga pessimistic turdfest where 99% of all people with superpowers are spoiled shitheads with no morals or outright degenerates that incur in disgusting fetishesThe boys, Starlight and the retarded kids team were apparently the only good and decent supes in the whole fucking world
>>220686549>Make evil superman comic>He's a communistToo real.
>>220688530>a giga pessimistic turdfest where 99% of all people with celebrity are spoiled shitheads with no morals or outright degenerates that incur in disgusting fetishes
>>220688401Is that from Watchmen?
>>220687632Black Noir would absolutely eat shit and suck dick to make Homelander think he's into gay scat.
>>220688569Miracleman.
>>220688421The twist was foreshadowed in a panel before Starlight blowbangs the Seven>You must have been replaced with an evil clone! She straight up says it
>>220688530Let's be honest: if super-serums existed people on Epstein's list would me ones getting it.
>>220688556Even the supes that arent that known are disgusting, this is not just a mockery of hollywood and its stars
>>220686549What if superman was a gamer?
>>220688574Why did Homelander never considered that the photos were fake or made with AI?
>>220688603>Implying people who paid the price to chase celebrity/power wouldn't be just as disgusting.These guys don't even fight super-villains or stop giants from eating the planet. They just take the serum/are dosed with the serum to generate brands.
>>220686590>more unique when the comic started 20 years ago.Holy shit try 1983's Superman 2 zoomzoom
>>220688634A lot of them actually didnt even choose to be supes, they were experimented since childhood or outright were born with powers because their parents drinked so funny kool-aid with V-compound leaks
>>220688642Zod isn't "Superman", he's purely just this stronk alien invader. He never attempts to be a symbol of anything or wear a costume.
>>220688676Yes, I've read the comics. They get forced into the culture just like Child Actors. And that really works out well for 99% of child actors.
>>220688624Because the supes are actually fucking stupid or completely ego driven like Homelander is. Look at the plane incident.
>>220688684Superman 3 my bad
>>220688684>This guy that has the same powers as superman but is actually evil and doesnt try to be a symbol or anything is not evil superman!
>>220688604Like in Megamind?
>Why can't I be as evil as I'm supposed to be?Kino twist tbqhwyf
>>220688721Evil Superman in Superman 3 is just Clark fighting his Id or something.
>>220686590Boys is just a shitty rip-off of Marshal Law and Brat Pack with all the interesting parts sanded off. And even by then the same ideas were handled better by Miracleman and Watchmen.
>>220686549They should adapt worm or irredimable
>>220688739Not all Kryptonians are Superman, or even aspire to be Superman. There's a bottle with thousands of them shrunk down, just trying to be ordinary people. Luthor has on occasion received the powers of Superman, that doesn't make him Superman, just like stealing the Surfer's powers doesn't make Doom a Herald of Galactus. Superman is a job.
>>220688741>What if superman was a incel?
>>220688754Irredeemable's getting a nignog adaptation. Expect the whole cast to be black.
>>220688752Marshal Law doesn't even start out as good as The Boys, and whew lad does it turn into rubbish right after Kingdom of the Blind.
>>220686549I await you in the inevitable Irredeemable adaption
>>220688795Then they should adapt worm as an animated series or something
>>220688721No one liked Superman 3
>>220688808I feel personally insulted every time some faggot dares post Brat Pack in these threads because it is something that doesn't deserve to be sullied by being in the same sentence as these pieces of shit.
The best depiction of asshole superheroes is pic related once it finally stops being purely bondage kink and turns into serious story. (never stops being bondage kink tho.)
>>220686590Just of the top of my head miracleman did it in the 80s and Invincible rip it off (and dragon ball) in the early 2000s and there's a lot more examples
>>220686710Because superman has been proved to be a hero for years in that movie
>>220688798Marshal Law is saved by Kevin O'Neill's art. But it has style! Boys look generic as fuck.
A live-action R-rated Empowered series, now that would be something to see.
>>220688953K.O. has done much better work, but I agree it's the ONLY reason to ever give this crap a glance.
>>220688966>American "manga" styleNo thanks senpai
>>220689028You are just jealous that good ol boys mastered the art of manga.
>>22068853099% of people IRL with absurd amounts of wealth and power are fucking degenerate, amoral shits and 1% decent humanitarians and philanthropists trying to make the world a better place.Why would people with superpowers be any different?
>>220686710sneeder is incompetent
>>220689028I mean Adam Warren, the writer/artist, has been a weeb forever, he started out doing American adaptations of stuff like Dirty Pair and Bubblegum Crisis.It wouldn't matter to a live-action adaptation tho.
>>220689067It look soulless and I actually think that American and British artists are better than the japs.
>>220689067I'm not willing to humor the notion that Ben Dunn ever mastered anything in his entire life.
>>220688832Is that a comic or somethin else?
>>220688808>>220688845>>220688752>shitty art>le wacky dialoguefuck you for making me read that slop
>>220689130Is a web comic the art is absolutely horrible even for web comic standards
>>220689195Isnt worm a web-novel?
>>220689134>LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!
>>220689214This. I thought it was a web-novel I asserted that I would never subject myself to, based on the sorts who recommend it.
>>220689234It is a web novel anon
>>220689134>le wacky dialoguedid we read the same thing?
>>220689288Yeah I'm still passin'.
>>220688752meh, couldn't get into marshall law compared to bratpack
>>220689288>>220689214Considering the amount of shitty Wattpad novels they adapted to movies, why no one has done the same to worm?
>>220689352worm is for autists and retards
>>220688953San Futuro as a landfill for superhumans with ptsd policed by a single guy as a cost-cutting measure is a great premise that never gets delivered on. Also suffers from people hating superhero comics tricking themselves into creating a superhero comic.
>>220688401>>220688583Anybody who's read it, can you give context for this image? It looks intense and kind of fascinating in how hellish it is. Makes me want to know what the hell lead up to it.
>>220688890This looks kinda hideous
>>220689028He was an oldfag pioneering the western-manga style, and in this board Adam Warren is a comic hero.
>how do we deal with an evil superman we cant control?>make another superman clone thats more evil and slightly stronger>perfect
>>220689518both the comic and show suck
>>220689475He improves a lot as the volumes go, by number ten is full on professional art and composition. Besides black and white helps his style a lot.
>>220688966there's a japanese ero artist who draws exactly like this but with dorky bowlcut dweebs banging brown sluts with tattoos, shit is so good
>>220686549>it's not a comic book, mom! it's a GRAPHIC NOVEL!
just started miraclemanthis shit looks like ass
>>220687494literal midwit energy, imagine not just being mad about this but actually being wrong about the terminology
>>220688530Hrm, but you see, absolute power corrupts absolutely. I am very intelligent.
>>220689376Like most superhero comics so whats your point?
>>220689667I can with absolute certainty say I am inclined towards evil and violence, but it is entirely a choice. Power has nothing to do with it. Real power is simply the ability to act. I choose peace every day because violence, as enticing and beautiful as I may find it, is morally reprehensible.You have no fucking idea how grating this is
>>220689471You know how in old Superman comics he would have bullshit powers like Super-knitting so he could knot a giant sweater in a second or something? That's more or less this but if instead he decided to torture the city of London to death in a couple of hours.
>>220689753they were called funny books for a reasonbefore they got based>>220689718modern comics maybe
>>220688507Seph was genuinely insane though. Really, he was just a walking drone for Jenova.
>>220688530Did you realize this before or after Herogasm?
>>220688684He’s a former terrorist of Krypton who actually agreed with JorEl but wanted to go about it a different way
>>220688754Better still…Uber
>>220688784Or like that ad was saying awhile back, a nonce?
>>220688401Cool art but holy shit that dialog box is written by a mentally challenged 8 year old
>>220688530>giga pessimistic turdfestBut enough about Game of Thrones.
>>220686549>>what if superman was LE EVEIL?You mean the thing that's already covered by the Superman comics, you dumb faggot?
>>220690181I thought Sephiroth went crazy because his human mom died
>>220689067>Burger anime>mostly inspired by hentaiThe irony is palatable
Boys would never!
>>220690322No, because he realized he was actually part of Jenova
>>220690322It's a whole thing with him being possessed by the will of a malevolent cosmic entity. There's an argument to be made that almost nothing he does in the game is actually his own will, not that he's fighting it
>>220688530i took the comics to be very cynically shitting all over the idea of superheroes, which appeals to me because superheroes are really fucking gay and stupid 99% of the time
>>220686549>HAHA HE LITERALLY ATE A BABY THATS SO FUCKING HARDCOREpfff child's play
>>220690403So really, he dead and just a puppet?
>>220690419Except for Deadpool and Punisher
>>220690463Alive but having his will unknowingly subverted. Practically speaking though, there's no difference.
>>220688530>giga pessimistic turdfest where 99% of all people with superpowers are spoiled shitheads with no morals or outright degenerates that incur in disgusting fetishesThe Boys is just a superhero fan shitposting about the absurdity of superheroes. Like things go wrong because how many superheroes actually have proper military or law enforcement training? Heroes are depraved in the same way irl celebrities are. You're taking it too seriously if you think it's pessimistic.
>>220690457how do you beat this guy?
>>220686549I really love this kind of facial expression. He looks so jolly, like he can barely hold it back.
>>220686549OP is a smelly Indian. Your curry stench reeks from your shitty excuse for English.
>>220688721>Superman 3 my badLook at this fucking faggot he actually watched superman 3.
>>220690419it's not shitting on super heroes so much as it's shitting on humanity, basically everyone becomes a degenerate fuckhead as soon as they're granted the power to act that way and get away with it. it's a genuine look into the mind of a modern liberal, a rorschach painting of their soul if you will
>>220686571fpbp
>>220688953OK, while obviously kind of stupid and over-the-top, all three of those characters are actually pretty creative & interesting ideas with potential.
>>220690504Oh, so the Wests Evangelion?
>>220690551>it's not shitting on super heroes so much as it's shitting on humanity, basically everyone becomes a degenerate fuckhead as soon as they're granted the power to act that way and get away with it. it's a genuine look into the mind of a modern liberal, a rorschach painting of their soul if you willHilarious that you say this when your fat orange godking won't release the epstein files since he was just as guilty as that fuckhead and great friend with him.
>>220690551>pizzagate and epstein's island are two separate conspiracies that we know of involving powerful people being sick fucks>but people in power are wholesome chungus and if you don't believe you are a liberal
>>220690563>the intricate detail Western artists put into gore>the intricate detail Eastern artists put into pornHonest question, what does this say of the Occidental and Oriental cultures?
>>220689753So to make sure I'm understanding you correctly: A super-being of some type basically went through London and; presumably working with super-speed; MANUALLY did all that? Hung some people with barbed-wire from a lamp-post, rammed some people's heads through a road-sign pole, etc.?That's fuckin' wild. I initially thought it'd have to be the aftermath of some far more abstract thing, like some kind of psychic nightmare-weapon or an interdimensional Hell-incursion or some kind of bizarre "disaster-like" event like that where it more or less happened all at once. But it's more so just the aftermath of a super-human just going nuts and carving a swath of violence through a city? Yeah, that's wild.Going to have to read this for myself at some point. This is Alan Moore's 1980's Reboot of the Miracleman series, right?
>>220690665>he never saw guro
>>220690665i think it's a matter of what's accepted in public. those wily easterners are quite capable of gruesome gore, while the west has brought about foul pornography that makes even the most blackhearted salarymen blush
>>220690403I disagree its implied that he is aware of jenova influence but he actually wants to destroy the planet by his own will
>>220690620>>220690641keep seething, faggots
>>220690665Lying piece of shit weeb I know the nips censor their porn.
>>220686590So the guy saw the Watchmen adaptation and immediately went home and scribbled a dumber, more obvious version of it? Impressive
>>220686549leftism is pretty much dunning kruger: the ideology. midwits are drawn to it, like flies to manure, and all get wildly inflated egos and estimations regarding their own intelligence. I mean, these retards think they're sophisticated and rational as they advocate for open borders and communism.
>>220690767>>220690801>East: feckless temperamental hot dogs?>West: psychopathic bloodlusted sado machs?
>>220690620>won't release the epstein filesHe DID release them though?...Biden released 0% of it, btw.>since he was just as guilty as that fuckheadProof? Not even the unsourced & uncorroborated bullshit claims in the "files" claim that Trump was raping and eating toddlers or whatever stupid bullshit your Internet Echo-Chamber said he was totally doing now that leftcucks have gone full Q-Anon.>and great friend with himBut he literally wasn't. Epstein was even a literal TDS sufferer (with the majority of Trump mentioned in the Epstein Files literally being Epstein or a friend seething over him), on top of being a Democrat super-donor who funded Trump's enemies, kek.
>>220690865>nigger is whiteknighting elites to "own the libs"
>>220690641>well there were TWO WHOLE instances (where we don't even necessarily have actual proof anything even particularly heinous went down)>That proves that they're ALL baby-eating Satanists!Many, wait until you hear about how many middle-class to poverty-level people have been convicted of deranged & degenerate crimes!
Deep's death is still so fucking stupidnot only do you have to headcanon him being a schizo and making the sea creatures all subconsciously hate him because he hates himself for things to work, they completely squandered his death when there were a dozen viable ways besides "lol tentacle assrape" for him to eat shit, krill could've swarmed his gills and made him actually drown, piranhas could've gotten inside him the same way, those dick fish from the Amazon river, etc.
>>220690999>chuds are now calling pizzagate a dangerous conspiracy theoryNext you faggots gonna take estrogen and convert to judaism.
>>220690917The Boys comic started three years before the Watchmen movie came out.
>>220690551>it's not shitting on super heroesI mean you're right that it's ALSO shitting on Celebrities and on Humanity in general, but let's not avoid calling a spade a spade: Garth Ennis has a not just implied but an openly admitted & acknowledged hatred for classical Superheroes and Superhero comics born of previous eras that were trying to portray unironic wholesome morals and genuine heroism. And The Boys, along with several other projects he's spearheaded, are VERY CLEARLY aimed at being subversions and piss-takes on classic Superheroes and the narrative culture that surrounds them.>Superman! ...But he's a super-evil murderous, baby-eating maniac>Iron Man! ...But he's a depraved sex-addict and later a straight-up rapist>Captain America! ...But he's a pathetic, pants-pissing manbaby cowardEtc.
>>220690665If you think Manga hasn't had visually-impressive graphic-violence then you have been reading all the wrong manga.
>>220686549This got the capeshit manchilds seething kek
>>220691071>censorious wokeoids are now insisting what they denigrated as a "dangerous conspiracy-theory" is ACTUALLY true now that it's convenientI can argue like that too, faggot.
>>220691155
>>220691181Oh, know that it does, but it fell out of favor for the current wank fest that’s been SOL, isakai, etc. that just focuses on Whoa! Boobs! Ass! Etc
>>220690917The Boys comic predates the Watchmen movie-adaptation.
>>220686549>what if superman.....>was....>get this....>DONALD TRUMP!!!!!>It came to me as I sat on the couch watching CNN and listening to my wife being satisfied by her boyfriend LeRoy
>>220686549>ITS NEVER. BEEN. DONEThere have been depictions of Superman: But Evil, for ages now.Ultra-Man was one from 1964.
>all of these pussy bitch faggots complaining about rip-offs of rip-offs
>>220690457Literally just lasso his neck from above. That's it. He will flail all he wants while hovering above the ground until he dies, then you just take the babies off one by one to safety. What a retarded premise and how much more retarded do you need to be to think this makes him "unkillable"? Every single comic by this hack faggot and every one of his readers is fucking retarded.
>>220691505supergod was funny
>>220689510Tony we are on /tv/
>>220687632Wait, if he took the pictures, how was he also in them?
>>220689606Stay with it, it's a fun crazy ride
>>220690510There was a real case kind of like this where some faggot had his two kids strapped to his body and was waving a gun around. A sniper finally just shot him in the head and the other cops on scene picked the kids up. They were fine.
>>220690510Shoot him in the apricot (look it up) and catch him as he falls.>>220691505This is a great idea too.
>>220691460>Doesn't post a pic of GilgameshOk
>>220688401That’s “what if captain marvel was evil?”
>>220691644Nasu, your fanfiction isn't real life.
>>220691672But everyone likes the sexually ambiguous Saber!
>>220691737which one?
>>220691155the iron man expy wasn't a sex addict, he had a brain tumor
>>220686549Pretty much yeah.Garth Ennis is the worst writer in the comic book industry.
>>220686590Not really. Watchmen came out in 1986. Deconstructed superheroes were out way before that.
>>220686590The very first incarnation of the character in the reign of the superman from 1933 has him as the bad guy.
>>220691748She’s the Golden Rectangle of anime, so…all of them?
it truly is manchild slop
>>220691809And Batman was The Bat, basically a nutty cat burglar who had a penchant for killing people with his Mauser.
>>220691769Worse than Moore?
>>220691787The first deconstruction came from the howard the duck guy. He wrote a comic complaining about the industry.
The only good comic ever written is a Manga and the only good Manga ever written is Fire Punch.
>>220686549I thought it was funny when I read it, not haha funny but mildly amusing, The Boys has always been the poor man's Watchmen, the tv show is just a different flavor of incredibly mediocre.
>>220691881Shigurui
not a comicbookfag but watchmen did it first
>Superman but evil
>>220691961Actually Superman did it firsthttps://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Ultraman_(Earth-Three)
>>220691849Yes, much worse than Alan Moore.>>220691855I think there were probably such kinds of characters as far back as the 1800s. Pop culture is a lot older than most realize. Comic books had been around for decades before Superman debuted.
Conan The Barbarian is a deconstruction of the bloodless "storybook" kind of fantasy stories that preceded it.
>>220690403Jenova theory by Hojo shows this isn't true since it's Sephiroth controlling the copies, not Jenova.
>>220692199Moby Dick deconstructed the maritime adventure before that.
>>220692265Actually, Don Quixote is the original capeshitter deconstruction.
>>220687494>>220686696he literally just teleported behind you... it's over.
>Miracleman and Miracle Kid were government creationsokay
>Homelander isn't outright evil, he wants to genuinely be heroic, however his personality is arrogant and narcissistic>Black Noir is main villain of S1-S3, trying to frame Homelander who is now (old) seen by Vought as obsolete, someone who won't play the role and rather "wants to play hero">Homelander tries to save the plane, it's actually Noir who sabotages it>Homelander never rapes Becca, it is actually Noir, and set up by Vought to create Ryan, the next Homelander>Stan Edgar is the arch-villain of the series, who has been planning all these>You can introduce all culture war characters like Stormfront, Victoria, make Homelander a RW populist if you want, but he still wants to be 'above ideology' to be in control>Starlight is also 'le resistance', but actually collaborates with Homelander in some episodes, because they both have the same episode>Eventually The Boys and Homelander find out Noir is actually someone else, and he is not crazy>Maybe S3 finale, Noir is beaten>S4 starts with Vought Contingency Plan, Deep State and Corporate takes control of the US>All Culture War is revealed as fake, and a ploy to make profit by putting people against each other>Homelander is expelled from the Seven>Soldier Boy is defrozen, as the true 'patriotic hero' the, compliant good goy, no depowering bs power either>Homelander and The Boys collaborate, but their ideas and ways become to dispar>Sage is Stan Edgar's advisor, not Homelander>The 'Like Caesar?' commentary happens between Starlight and Homelander, sorta like: "Somebody needs to step in and do what's right." "Like Caesar?">S4 finale, Homelander goes berserk, not completely out of spite, but also of a twisted heroic feeling of 'saving the country', crosses the Rubicon>Homelanders destroys DC, Vought Tower, 9/11 echoes as thousand dies and Homelander basically takes control of parts of the US, which starts breaking apart, as some resist his 'fascist' rule>S5 is The Boys and Vought against Homelander
Snyder fucked up with Batman v Superman. It should've been a trilogy, then saga:1. standalone Superman movie2, standalone Batman movie, establish batman's slipping sanity after what happened to robin3. Batman v Superman: superman's sanity is tested when something bad happens to lois lane. 4. JL 1...vs brainiac5. JL 2...evil superman from another timeline6. JL 3...vs darkseid
>>220692399ah, what could've been. look how good this sounds. oh well. a huge team of leftist idiots couldn't do what this anon outlined in like 15 minutes.
the show clearly highlights how important it is to have a "catalyst" event for the main characters. they have it for hughie, for butcher, but there wasn't really a clear one for HL. he is introduced in s1 as evil in a more indifferent way, just doing things for vought. what drove him towards the next level of evil and psychotic insanity? maybe i missed it since i didn't watch all seasons. but in s1 he begins to think he is being targeted once the invisible guy gets taken out. in addition to deploying vought troops to find translucent, he goes flying around to look for him, has the early encounter with frenchie, and ends up empty handed. already the writing was getting sloppy there.same problem with daenarys suddenly going insane. it happened too quickly for audiences to accept, without a clear and visual catalyst. these morons forget they're telling a story with a visual medium.
>>220692399>However, during S5, Butcher grows more extreme, more radical (Virus Plot)>The Boys do not follow Butcher's plan of releasing the Virus>Butcher leaves ("Mass Extermination, Lad"), using his military power to take control of one of the anti-Supe militia that appeared after Homelander did 911>Penultimate episode "Innocent", Butcher releases the Virus (which can also kill normal humans too, not only Supes, though it mostly kill supes) in multiple places>A-Train gets his redemption arc, he saves Hughie and some others, "but he'll never be able to run again", his feet get destroyed>Main event though, is in an airport. Starlight tries to stop the Virus, but fails. Then Homelander appears and saves her in TV (not planned, spontaneously).>Ryan attacks Homelander, thinking he's harming Starlight>Homelander, instead of attacking Ryan, shields him from the Virus, gets infected instead>Ryan realizes he is being saved, and his 'dad' is dying>Homelander reveals "I'm not your father" to Ryan>"Why did you save me?" "Because you're innocent". Homelander dies saving Ryan on TV, a martyr.>Butcher knows he lost the moral game, yet goes full jacobin terror mode on the supes>Final episode, an inverse of the Comic. Hughie and The Boys try to retake the Butcher's Militia control of the White House. Instead of flying heroes, it's just men on a broken palace.>Butcher injects V to resist, final hypocrisy. Full genocide plan revealed. "No exceptions.">Ryan and Hughie fight against Butcher.>Ryan doesn't kill Butcher, it's Hughie who kills him. Rejecting "The Master">The End.Would this have worked? Or is it too different from the show? Or corny?
>>220692562Ah, and Soldier Boys kills Stan Edgar after he sees Homelander die on TV and leaves. Epilogue is him visiting his tomb, "John". "Guess you weren't pathetic after all."
>>220686549>HEEEEEEENH>HEEEEEEENH>I POSTED THREAD
>>220690752Yes, shill. This is Miracleman, now available through Marvel Comics in multiple formats! Buy now, and don't forget to use our affiliate links for 0.05 % off!
>>220692326It's in the discussion, sure.
>>220688808>what if batman was a pedo with AIDS I did actually chuckle when when he reveals he had AIDs
>>220686665WHAT IF HE HAD AAAAAAAIDS
>>220692559>it happened too quickly for audiences to acceptThis is even worse since the boys had plenty of time to write an interesting way for homelander to spiral into that insanity, I haven't watched season 4 since it aired but I don't remember him even processing the fact he came really fucking close to being stripped of his powers and trying to figure out ways to prevent it or using the "I'm a god" shit as a coping mechanism or some shit. His personality just did a fucking complete 180 after season 3 so the retard showrunner could stroke his hateboner for trump
What if Superman
Plutonian is the best evil Superman, he was a horror villain.
>>220686549Thanks Amazon
>>220692840meh
Oi, Hughie. We've got to kill 'omelanda
>>220686549I'LL SUCK YA DICK
>>220686549>make thread about evil superman>post evil batman
>>220687766Anon, most of the "users" on this site are bots. They can't read your posts, they just blurt anything tangentially related to your post in a way that incite you to reply, ragebait doesn't take that much to stir up activity. This place is empty.
>>220691460You what's funny is that i look like this.
>>220689518The point is corporations are arrogant and stupid or something
>>220690665They have to mosaic their details anyway so its irrelevant
>>220692843>I assure you dear viewer, the scenes with butchers dog fantasizing about fucking homelander and taking screentime away from other things in the final season of the show are absolutely crucial
>>220691961Dr Manhattan wasn't evil, just apathetic. He even hesitated to kill Rorschach
>>220692840How the fuck would he know all this just from having Superman's powers? Superman can't read minds
>>220690510listen, and that's what no one ever did
>>220693181He has the super hearing and he takes it to an extreme.
>>220686549Superman is hope incarnate.In most of his official works, he is never evil nor he ever kills anyone\commits any crime or injustice towards any person.He is quite literally the definition of pure lawful good.Having him corrupted or have an alternative version of him that's just evil was all the craze back in the 70s.
>>220693181How does he know what did Caleb wrote in his journal?
>>220692733you actually convinced me to buy it anon, thanks for the recommendation!
>>220693181>>220693274He doesn't have super hearing, he actually has mind reading. Prior to the beginning of the series, when he has already gone insane, he is a standard Superman analogue. He perceives his abilities as being super strength, flight, super hearing, etc. But in actuality he is an other-dimensional alien being that has taken the image of a human, and all of his superpowers are psionic, meaning he is really just a reality-warping sadist who eventually starts becoming godlike before the story ends. I personally liked the story. I know subversive plots are currently played out, but the antagonist Tony's enough of an evil bastard that you kind of have fun seeing the retarded antics he comes up with. The art though vascillates between really great and truly awful, I don't know exactly what he was going for but some of the expressions throughout the comic are just ghastly and take away from the plot they're trying to tell. Like I know the shtick is they're all bad people but fuck sake it's hideous.
>>220693274It's revealed later on Plutonian's powers are actually psionics, but he's not aware of it and taps into it unknowingly.
>>220688752Boys owes more to the shock-schlock Ennis perfected in Preacher than anything Veitch or Mills put out. Superhero deconstruction isn't a unique or original concept. It was Ennis' specific brand of cynicism, degeneracy, and depravity that made it work.
>>220691881Starts good and ends as nihilistic bullshit
>>220686549One thing I never quite get about all those edgy superhero stories is why all the characters are always either bootleg avengers or bootleg justice league. How fucking hard is to come up with something new?
>>220693467what do you expect them to use bootleg hana barbera and gi joe characters? Venture Bros did it first
>>220693566I dunno, make up their own superheroes? This shit can't be that hard. It doesn't always need to be the not-superman, not-batman and not-wonder woman.
>>220688754>>220689214>>220689195What do you think of scion as an evil Superman?
>>220693662Anon, it needs to be. The people who read comic books only want to see the same characters over and over again.Why do you think characters like the Joker are still around?
>>220688798Everything by Pat Mills is worth reading*. He's a genius and you've been filtered. *Well except for the later half of Third World War, that comic fell off hard.
>>220693467What about Miracleman
>>220693839Captain Marvel is in Justice League, isn't he?
>>220688953Marshal Law's biggest problem is just a lack of direction. Mills clearly had no idea what the end game for the character should've been. Kingdom of the Blind and Super Babylon were still hilarious and I don't really get the hate.>Gotta... gotta get to the sofa
>>220693904Well, it was originally supposed to be a generic judge dredd rip-off before Mills decided to make it about how superheroes suck. And then to his horror he was stuck writing a superhero comic book.
>>220693903Yeah but miracleman is specifically based on the British version of captain marvel that only got made because of the fawcett lawsuit and miracleman was published well before Captain Marvel was ever a member of the Justice League.
>>220686549Basedboy comic
>>220691235Sol has been in manga since the 70s and there are plenty of fantastic ones. Modern manga is still better than modern capeslop. >>220689572Source?
>>220689091>like Dirty Pair and Bubblegum Crisis.Those both looked worse than the originals, Idk his artstyle is not my cup of tea and his writing is not that much better either.
>>220688925But what if you didn't eat breakfast?
>>220690665>tfw I am reading manga >it has both fantastic gore and sexy women>the paneling is also way more dynamic Idk if I am weeb but I prefer manga to american comics. I do like some old British comics though and the french have a few cool ones as well.
>>220694420Tbh same, I just find action in capeshit so fucking stiff
>>220686549>>220686590>>220687632>>220688401All these Evil superman comics have one thing in common - the boys, miracle man, irredeemable, watchmenAll British.It's clear anti-american propaganda by the red coats
Bump limit is less than 60 away. Come on bros, we can kill this thread soon
>what if superman sucked dick and ate shit on live TV
>>220690665Bro manga literally has gory shit in shonen like Fist of the north star, while western comics keep it only for "adult" slop. You have no idea what you are talking about. >>220690801It's literally acceptable for children manga to have gore, fucking Pokemon manga did it.
>>220694450This. Oregano in the fields btw
>>220694470I would clap
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>>220694444Irredeemable is written by Mark Waid, born and raised in Alabama - perhaps the most quintessentially American state there is.I'm not too familiar with Miracleman, but it appears the character was originally a straightforward do-gooder and it was only in Alan Moore's revival that it became morally ambiguous.
>>220694420Source? Looks pretty cool
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>>220686549You're a trog if that's your main takeaway. Not that The Boys is that deep to begin with, which makes it even worse for you
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>>220694564Apocalypse Zero
Watchmen is the only capeshit(it doesn't even deserved to be called that way) I actually enjoyed. Why can't the industry make something similar instead of the diversity filled modern garbage?
>>220694420for me it's the teenage girls fanservice. the west only does fanservice for ugly old women nowadays
>>220694585Read superfolks then
>>220693261>Superman is hope incarnate.Which is why he's so much worse than Homelander. It's the difference between listening to a preacher and watching an evil motherfucker get brought to justice.
>>220694642I will, thanks for the recc fren. Wtf happened with the comic industry after 80s/90s anyways?
>>220694642>ReadNo. I stopped reading picture books when I was 2. This is /tv/ not /co/
>>220694675Its a novel anon
>>220694420You should read Shigurui next. It's by the same author.
>>220694714I know, I've already read it but it was awhile ago so I should probably do a reread. My favorite thing about Yamaguchi is how well he incorporates the personalities of the fighter in their fighting style. It's fantastic visual storytelling.
>>220694660Women and minorities happened
>>220694657Comic Homelander was purely evil either. Just a fratboy with superpowers psyopped into becoming evil
>>220691573Even back then you could set up a timed photo on a camera. Use your fucking brain for 10 seconds.
>>220694814*wasn't
>>220691235>currentThat "intricate detail gore" comic was from 2009 and there were plenty of gory manga back then, like Franken Fran for example. Even in modern times you can find gory shit if you actually look for it, Jagaaaaaan was mediocre but it had plenty of nice looking gore.
>>220692451That's what he wanted to do. It was WB that forced him to fast-track into an Avenger-style movie, because they wanted ALL THE MONEY, not some of it.
>>220686710it's still a shit movie dude
>>220692840Uber is better
>>220690563Wtf am I looking at
>>220690617There were capeshit comics before boys that pointed out the absurdities of the genre same with mecha anime that pointed out the problems with child pilots. None of them did anything that new but Eva is definitely better + Misato is more fuckable than any of the boys women
We’re almost there bros, 25 posts before this cancer can slide off the board
>>220692000Injustice Supe isn't evil. He's right about everything.
>>220695099It's what clara would have wanted
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wait, are people really mad that they made the heckin based evil superman grovel and beg pathetically before finally being killed? did you all forget what show you were watching?
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>>220695136>Murdered a bunch of teenagers because they dressed up like The Joker and had a rave>Beat Green Arrow to Death because an arrow bounced off him, and hit john kentprobably more shit off the top of my head. injustice supes is a psycho manchild, and gets turbomogged by mainline clark
>>220695157Nobody upset about this watched the show at all.
>>220695157There are people that got way too invested in the character
>>220694314Hard stretch
>>220690917yeah garth ennis had never heard of superhero comics until 2009 despite writing them since 1991 you fucking sped
Indeed, a shit thread for a shit concept on a shit bohemian basket weaving website
>>220695348Dale is an endearing tinfoil hatter, embodying the part of friendship, you have even with your best friends, where on some topics you simply don't see eye to eye. Homelander is a comically evil manchild gifted powers that basically make him god, if it weren't for his brainwashed in need to keep his popularity in check.
>hhheeeennhhhhI've read this out loud and still don't know how it's supposed to sound
>>220695432Seeing Dale presented adjacent to Homelander, or Patrick Batemen is really annoying, to be honest.
>>220695360>Hard stretchIs that the source for the ero nip artist?
I refuse to believe anyone who thinks the boys, comic and TV show is older than 14.
>>220695435retard wheezing exhale.Like, literally one of those weird noises the Special Ed kid would make, if you had one.
>>220695435I imagine it as a Beavis laugh
>>220695460It’s also the most franchise of all time
>>220695348What the fuck do people find endearing about homelander? He's an annoying manchild.
>>220695452>>220695360So which one of the 2 anons I've quoted are you?
>>220693467>>220693662Because these kinds of Deconstructions are also often direct parodies of Superhero comics, its tropes and its characters. It's completely natural and almost necessary for something in that genre to have some intentional parallels to actual, established Superhero characters.
>>220690959Trumps current wife was one of Epstein girls. He had sex with her for the first time on Esptien's plane.
>>220695538They see themselves in him, and think he's cool.
>>220695348>Tyler DurdenYes a schizophrenic punk trying to let anarchy "rain" is right wing.Why are Americans so retarded?
>>220695610"Deconstruction" is an overused term that has lost most of its meaning
>>220691809While technically Superman, a bald, telepath who got temporary powers from a lab experiment is clearly not the evil flying brick archetype this thread's talking about.
>>220695348>Ron Swanson>right wing strawmanWhy do people keep misunderstanding this character this hard? Assuming he ever bothered to vote for anyone, it certainly wouldn't have been anyone with an R or a D in front of their name.(he would however, always vote on ballot initiatives. Usually 'no' every time, regardless of what it was about).
>>220695631Acknowledging that it is as suptle as a tank driving through a library, explain how this is not a deconstruction
>>220695615Literally ANY proof of these wild claims?
>>220695717The second was a quote from Epstein himself. Take that as you will.The first is literally just Melania's employment history. Her first boss was a guy who found girls for Epstein.
>>220695707Because it doesn't really analyze the way superheroes were used in the context of the comic industry and the way that canon evolved throughout the years, it's more of a commentary on human nature. Hell the fact fact that it's obviously inspired by a lot of older "deconstructions" shows that he didn't even start at the source. Also he doesn't do anything interesting with the comic format even though he is "deconstructing" it, Watchmen combining comics with news article, biographies and comics within comics was actually a nice way to look at all the parts that make the format what it is.
subtle as the p in suptle
>>220695610That's retarded. It's like if you wanted to make a story about mafia and insisted that your main character has to be Bichael Morleone. They don't want to say anything about the medium. They want to make Superman say "fuck".
>>220695905A tank is thick okay?
>>220686549Give Kripke credit for this: he took a worthless comic book with nothing but irredeemable characters and managed to make one of them likeable and relatable.Good for you, Eric.
Homelander's death is like 911 for brown tiktok users.
>>220694444I'd heard before how some Europeans find it uncomfortable that Americans are always smiling. Seeing that pic of Homelander from the comics, smiling with his perfect white teeth, makes me think that something like that could only come from the mind of a Brit