>>220707728
What are "smart people" actually like? As in actual smart thinking people? I don't consider math geniuses who are also social retards or retarded for everything else "smart" btw

>>220707728
Streamslop writers think Shakesperian English is some mythic language that only scholars can hope to understand. They "teach" Shakespeare in schools by dumbing it down as much as possible so any idiot can understand what's going on.

>>220707728
maybe this kripke guy is a bit retarded and thats just his idea of smart, but its also normal for a nigger to be unable to memorize and learn things.

>>220707781
>Literally performed to illiterate peasants because it was relatable to the average person
>Treated as a mythic language today
I wonder if there's something to be learned about that.

>>220707778
Rote learning something is the domain of a midwit. Spewing or parroting information back shows minimal or basic intelligence. Deep learning is the ability to transpose information.

If you can explain a complicated concept to.a.6 year old without losing raw concept, that's a smart person.

>>220707728
I get that losing super-intelligence is hard to display, but how the fuck does it even work here? She forgot Othello? How? Certain memories and facts in her brain have an asterisk that makes them a super memory, and only those ones disappear? When she lobotmized herself, did she forget Othello and then remember it again later without relearning it?

>>220707841
That the English language has evolved and changed in great leaps over a few hundred years?

>>220707908
They could've just left it at "the voices in my head are quieter now!"

At least that's a close concept to what actual.high IQ people experience.

>>220707781
The average American today speaks like an illiterate nigger so of course Shakesperian English sounds like a mythic scholarly language to them.

>>220707728
>woah i like seth rogan movies now!

>>220707728
should have showed her working at the dmv and trading her ebt for drugs with 8 kids.

>>220707937
>changed in great leaps
And now it's being polluted by ESLs.

>>220707778
Intelligence is majorly just pattern recognition
The reason that most of the "smart" people in media are stupid as shit is because Hollywood and most of society believes that intelligence = "i say big words and know everything" when in reality that isn't the case.

>>220707937
It's drastically changed for the worse just in the last 2 generations. Nigger ebonics, which originated from blacks refusing to learn in school, is now basically mainstream English.

>>220707965
Why would she need to do her drugs with 8 kids?

>>220707778
most smart people dont think theyre that smart
they dont understand that you dont understand or need longer to grasp concepts than them, the ones with social smarts understand, the ones without can be absolute assholes to people they think are "beneath" them

>>220708000
Because that’s the maximum the state of Minnesota will give you

>>220707986
Also this.
That's why there's always about 10% of society (gamers rise up) who eat themselves alive inside because they can recognise patterns that ASPD people are promoting and going along with but no one believes them.

>>220707778
Indistinguishable from everyone else because intelligence does not work like a superpower. So they still make mistakes, have accidents, like generic shit like sports, etc.

>>220708023
Fucking racists, she should go to California and look up octomom's doctor.

>>220707937

fr fr no cap

>>220707778
If you need to ask, you're not very smart
Not even midwit level

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Eueryon that speketh modern Englisch is broun.
https://openl.io/translate/middle-english

>>220707778

in my opinion, smart people are adaptive, able to recognize patterns in both hard and soft data, and apply their knowledge and experience effectively if they choose. i've met plenty of people who are unable to string together simple cause and effect relationships, e.g. i totaled another car because i didn't change the oil so i had better buy a better car.. sometimes i think this is the result of poor memory, often i think it's just an inability or unwillingness to actually think about things for more than two seconds.

>>220707778
I’m sad all the time and take drugs to make time go quicker so I don’t have to think as much.

>>220707728
>black person's power is to be as intelligent as a White person.

>>220707778
Kind of normal, but capable of easily learning and making use of information to solve problems.
The smartest person I've ever known was totally normal in social interactions, not autistic in the slightest, though he was curious about how things worked so would often take things apart or otherwise be actively gaining knowledge/skills.

>>220708384
Smart people don't stop trying to learn.
They need to be constantly learning or doing something new.

>>220707891
Counter point, if the topic you are learned in can be explained and comprehended by a 6 year old you are not "smart".

To understand things at a raw concept level you don't have to be a genius.

>>220707778
they're varied:

- the "straight A" genius: analytical, socially awkward, bubbly, solely driven to succeed, lose their shit if they so much as get a B or someone is smarter than them in something
- the smug, pain in the ass genius: smarter than you and they know it. while they know their shit their egos are far too high for it to matter to anyone else. they're the type of genius people gradually loathe (and in some cases for good reason) as they love to stick their noses down at people,are prone to backbiting and talking shit about people. their egos has them deluded into thinking they're not always two words away from having their teeth knocked out. like the straight A genius, they lose their shit if they lose or look bad intellectually
- the loner genius: either the smug genius who is royally burned out or they're so socially inept they rather go at life alone at this point in their lives. whether they're a dick or are socially awkward is 50/50 unless you go out your way to talk to them
- the "nice" genius: they love learning, do mostly well socially, and are generally pleasant to be around. either through a healthy upbringing or through some disorder like high functioning autsim where they don't know better. like the straight a genius, are prone to be victims of bullying/abuse by non-genius or by the smug genius

>>220707841
Browns are stupid

>>220708439
That's ridiculous; if a topic explains the natural world like quantum mechanics for example, it should be able to be transposed without information being lost.
That's how midwits who write word salad post-modernist academic journals think they're smart. Because they write slop and hide it behind stream of consciousness duck speak.

Also, I wasn't saying understanding things makes you smart; I was saying that understanding then relating the information to be understood by others makes you smart; it's a common concept in teaching.

>>220707728
I used to say this about BBC Sherlock, but to stupid people intelligence is magic. They literally cannot understand how an intelligent person thinks any more than you can understand how Jesus would turn water into wine.

>>220707781
1999 Midsummer Night’s Dream did such a good job at retaining the original archaic English but making it simple to understand with good acting

>>220707778
The definition of intelligence is a person’s ability to make accurate predictions. That’s it.
You may SOUND smart if you can quote philosophy or use big words, but that’s all meaningless if you aren’t able to take information and apply it correctly. It’s what sets us apart from other animals. We can plan cities and design traps and stratagems. All of science is just about using information we have to make predictions about how something works and then testing whether we predicted it correctly or not

The show tried to make it seem like Sister Sage was so smart that she could predict people's actions just by meeting them. Smart people can't do this and tend to get BTFO by stupid people like all the time.

>>220708938
So if I predict some dumb bitch will suffer because she's dating some low life negro and it eventually becomes true does that mean I'm smart? Shouldn't it be obvious?

>>220708991
More intelligent than her I guess?
Let me know when you’re intelligent enough to actually be useful, like understanding physics well enough to engineer a building, or understanding combat and logistics well enough to win a war

>>220709033
3 days to kiev, eh?

>>220707728
Why didn't she just compartmentlize her high IQ and make a second persona that enjoys dumb things.

>>220707778
Most math geniuses are not social retards or retarded at everything else. Like a true retard, you're only looking at extreme outliers.

>>220708946
There was a study that showed high IQ people do not experience empathy for low IQ people. Things such as robbing the same liquor store three times and spending their paycheck in one night. It only takes like 30 IQ points for two people not be unable to understand each other.

>>220710117
I would be interested to read that study, because I certainly don't.
Why would I empathise with a retard that commits the same crime three times?
Shouldn't he have known better?

>>220707728
This is what kripke thinks that the audience of The Boys thinks that smart people do.

Probably the worst character of any major tv show in the past 30 years.

>>220710117
>do not experience empathy for low IQ people

Does mentally acting out what you would do if you acted on every impulse you have without the ability to mentally project yourself more than 2 hours into the future count as empathy?

>reading books and being an introvert means you are literally the smartest person in the world

>>220707728
Why did they make her so irresistibly cute when I was getting over my black fever phase and now my dick will go doki doki again for the nearest black queen

>>220707728
would
>>220707778
White

>>220707728
wtf was this shit? so she just fucks off to disneyland? thats her ending?

>>220708210
Bingo. I actually think there are a lot of smart people on this site.

>>220707908
I haven’t watched this garbage because it’s garbage and has been garbage since season 2, but I would assume part of her super-intelligence is having an eidetic memory. So now she could probably tell you the basic plot of Othello, but couldn’t recite the entire play word for word.
That is my assumption.

>>220707728
A sign of being intelligent to tards like Kripke is someone that knows classical literature and classical music, unironically.

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>>220710117
i only have empathy for people who diversify their liquor store robberies

>>220710938
Based as fuck. Happy Memorial Day, anons.

>>220707891
>>220707891
Memorizing and recognizing references is bug intelligence
Synthesis and creating new meaning from distant concepts to most and seeing patterns others failed to is schizo intelligence
Being able to interally model behavior and play it out in your head with accuracy is Simulative intelligence
Being able to visualize universes in your head based on both prior dreams, visuals, feelings and distortions on half understood events and articulate them is creative intelligence
Intelligence that is "rate of absorbing and understanding information" and wisdom built on internal models of the world that form from repeat experiences and awareness of the world's functions are seperate for this reason.
Intelligent people can do very stupid behavior as they can just as easily act on a false model of reality and on patterns they thought were there that are not actually there yet they are able to rationalize counter evidence to the patterns in ways that keep them convinced of their delusion.
A stupid person isn't doing that, a stupid person just goes by information and priors away anything new that doesnt fall in line with the first things they were told on a "no this is the true thing so that is it" basis. A stupid person still is able to be a communist, just have them read the communist manifesto and give them an evil bad money bags man to seethe over and say everything bad is because mr money bags did it. And anyone who thinks republicans or theocrats are stupid or dont believe their ideologies if they are smart has no ideas how people can model their worldview and how rationalizing self interest with ideology or belief can be done in so many ways. A republican cutting children's welfare believes this makes tougher kids because harm reduction isn't the goal in the way a liberal thinks about harm reduction. And by god you see some stupid fucking liberals, have you seen the writing on this superhero show ive been watching called The Boys?

>>220710847
I remember finding it so 'lol okay' when in Star Trek they tried to go "look I know hamlet" as if everyone in high school never fucking got assigned Hamlet. Im supposed to be impressed you like plays that have characters 4 times over summarize what happened in a prior scene like it's some netflix show

>>220711363
You're supposed to get assigned Hamlet and then not read it/pretend, anon.
If you actually read it, and understood it, you're a super genius to these people.

>>220708946
That's pretty much why pros don't like playing against fish. They're too unpredictable and almost impossible to read because they have no idea what they're doing.

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Only decent portrayal of a smart person by Hollywood.

>>220707778
They're lonely, because they can see the average person's hypocrisy and lack of critical thinking skills even when tackling something very basic. I'm not intelligent, but I've seen the drained look from people who are intelligent. They also overthink social interactions because things have to make sense to them. They cannot accept that some people are just incredibly retarded and don't think at all about their actions beyond "I want thing".

>>220708946
Honestly they could have just made her a telepath instead of that.

>>220707728
From my personal experience with smart people they are all depressed because they are smart and they can see the through the society's fake facade. Most really smart people that I know are in a very dark place because this world sucks and if you are smart you can see all the manipulation happening, all the lies, all the psyops, etc. Like Cypher said in the Matrix and I quote: "Ignorance is bliss".

>>220707937
>evolved
You mean deteriorated.

>>220711799
The actual reason is that being highly intelligent is extremely isolating. You will meet very, very few people who are on your wavelength throughout your entire life. It's not because "they can connect all the strings", anyone can do that if they have it explained to them.

>>220707778
too broad of a term to actually be consistently applied aside from "generally good at picking up things mentally quickly"

but it's like asking what an "athletic" person is. Sure you can say generally physically adept, but a person who's good at long distance running wouldn't be particularly good at bench pressing even though both could be considered markers of fitness. In the same vein a chess or math master might be terrible at quick thinking etc, or have bad memory and vice versa.

>>220707986
>>220707778
>>220707728
Hollywood truly believes smart people are wizards

>>220711691
I do not know how people get employed or have jobs so I just assume it's stupidity on my part.
But it turns out networking is a factor and that horrified me when I first learned about that because I realized it meant a lot of unqualified people in positions and jobs they really shouldn't be doing.
And so I feel like a dumbass for failing to network despite this failure being because those events are noiseboxes and I usually only converse well 1:1 or 1:Audience with basically no inbetween. Unsure if that is an introvert or autism or schizoid thing.

My IQ was professionally tested in middle school at 143. Skipped 3rd grade. Scored highest in the province twice on achievement exams. Truth is, I have designed and maintained and lived my life to do exactly one thing: Stay home, get high, play video games, read books, listen to music, and watch movies. I have manipulated and pulled every lever possible just to stay home and be with my art/content. I am incredibly lazy. I don’t like to work and have consistently leeched off the different revenues of assisted income to only stay home and practise drive rush in street fighter 6. When sage said she will destroy the world to stay home with her books, I felt truly represented as the brilliant useless genius loser that I am, and for the first time saw an actual smart person on screen.

>>220707728
Someone post the image explaining how smart characters are written using "No Country for Old Men" and "Sherlock Holmes"

>>220707778
"Smart people" simply put, are those who are perceived as knowledgeable. A person might not know the subject matter they're speaking on, but if they can sound like they do, they will be considered smart

A con-man, for instance, is seen as being smart until someone realizes that he's faking an understanding of something.

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>>220711954
I chuckled.

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>>220711799
all sort of right.
you can have broad spectrum intelligence, and it isn't just that each part works faster. read into evolutionary development of the mind for further insight.
the isolation is a big part. the higher you go, the fewer people you'll encounter in life you can make a connection with. it might result in 1 in 10,000. similarly, people a couple of rungs lower won't find you particularly interesting to talk to either.
knowing the reality of the world depends on the awareness of the person, not always to do with high iq though the two combined add depth of understanding, and worse than that mean that awareness comes at a very young age when you've not developed the skills or the body or autonomy to do anything about it. then you realise you're trapped in this zoo.
cypher was right to want out, if just to avoid the pits of zion

>>220708946
ya dum pepal is the reel smaht peepal

>>220707728
What do smart people do?

>>220707891
>Spewing or parroting information back shows minimal or basic intelligence. Deep learning is the ability to transpose information.
pretty much this. It's like the difference between counting to 100 because you memorized the numbers, vs something like writing an algebra equation that equals out to 100. Memorizing Othelo verbatim does not make you smart. But knowing all of Shakespear's work, and being to identify common themes in his writing and how those compare to other prolific writers MIGHT mean your smart... either that, or you wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars on a lit degree, which proves you are not smart

>>220711957
>A person might not know the subject matter they're speaking on, but if they can sound like they do, they will be considered smart
I did that when talking about the stock market once to someone who didn't know anything about it. I didn't even know what a market cap was but luckily that never came up kek.
But the flipside is you look pants on head retarded if you try it on someone that does actually know what you're talking about, I made that mistake when talking about car suspension and thinking Macpherson Strut was a brand name for a strut and not the name of the suspension system itself.

>>220707937
Only Shakespeare I have seen is midsummer night's dream and despite the all over the place plot I could mostly understand it all

>>220708630
>I have 90 iq and I'm a teenager - the post

>>220707778
Depressed and anxious

>>220712092
Pseudo-intellectuals, sure.

>>220711954
I think the 'jobs just take all the time and contribute to a country that constantly does reprehensible shit' aspect has bled into more people's understanding, I come from a place of having creative ambitions more and fucking hate the idea of a fulltime job taking all my energy away from my deranged fantasies being put to paper, however shit they may be to others. And I just realized after a point the only way they can stop me is by distracting me constantly away from it and- oh look at this, social media, forums, online discourse, political discourse, all dragging me away from the kind of headspace I need to be creative. And I do achieve that headspace sometimes, I just feel like I have to fight so fucking much just to get to it.
One thing I realized is video essays cannot be used for background noise. They talk.
Talking background people hurt your mind as your mind is stuck trying to process their words and this fucks with your own words.
I write more when I use music bg instead of video essay.
I draw more.
I program more even.
Social media is designed to make you feel worthless by parasitizing your attention and executive functionality away and it sucks because we are so instinctually wired to want to know what is going ojn around us and seek potential threats out but this is exploited so much it has made that instinct panic over bullshit constantly while our personal lives stagnate in garbage.
I use this site because I find it easier to break from. An anon bitching me out I can just ignore and sometimes another anon takes my place in the argument hours later, which is neat.

>>220712124
that's how you know downies are geniuses, they're smiling all the time

>>220712001
I didn't want to mention it because I'm feeling lazy but now you have so I can
This anon basically understands, if unconsciously.

>
Intelligence is multifarious. If you do a cursory investigation into the theory of multiple intelligences, it's very obvious that it is a more than adequate working model for intelligence.
>
Intelligence evolved as a mechanism for survival. This goes for ALL traits that are possessed by living things.
The MAIN function of intelligence is as follows
>gather information about the self to understand what is ideal for positive outcome
>gather information about the other (the external) to understand what factors can impede positive outcome for the self
this is what the senses and by extension, sensory input is for
>synthesize the information using creative and observational ability to forecast which actions can yield positive outcome

You can't distill it anymore than that without leaving anything out
That is what intelligence is, which is really what this thread is about.

>>220712221
Intelligence sounds like it's very self serving, which I guess makes sense since narcissism seems to be common in people that are intelligent, as well as in people that just believe they are intelligent.

>>220707728
To be fair, our memorization skills are pretty crazy. I fucking hate it. It’s a curse.

>>220712001
Being smart doesn't have to be lonely and you aren't going to feel trapped. That is just perception.
It's really easy to be unhappy that you can't find people to deeply connect to and who really get you, but you don't need that for most of your interactions in your life.

Its perfectly fine to have more casual relationships with people, to take them for what they are, to have a good time and not expect more from others.
And when you do find people you can really connect with that is even better.

>>220711828
By definition, the English language has evolved, for better or worse. There is no "devolve". It's so stupid. When certain mammals went back to the ocean did they "devolve/deteriorate"? When English was beginning to develop from a mix of French, Latin and Germanic languages, was that "deteriorating"? Evolution isn't good or bad, positive or negative. It is simply a change, in response to outside circumstances.

>>220712245
Most things are self serving, that is different from them being narcissistic.
A narcissist is not simply having an ego or even a self centered worldview in general. A narcissist has a total disregard for anyone else and works on negative sum thinking, they feel offended by someone else succeeding even if they mutually benefit from said success in some way.

>>220707728
The best way for her to have shown other worldly intelligence was when she revealed her "plan" it devolves into some schizo rant about setting up the conditions for some fringe ideology to take over

>>220712245
every single one of these threads over the last 20 years has been retards throwing rocks into a dark forest.
s.s.a. are the biggest narcissists on the planet because they lack self awareness to the extent where they consider themselves the centre of the universe.
if you are average, midwit or lower, you will never understand what "intelligence" is. that's the limitation of intelligence, it's a complex subject and requires condensed understanding and extrapolation across numerous fields.
you might as well stick to the "they like real fast calculators mang"

>>220712317
>they feel offended by someone else succeeding even if they mutually benefit from said success in some way.
Sometimes I fear being a narcissistic for feeling jealousy at people succeeding, though my reason is usually because I just want to be looked up to a little, not a lot, but just enough for a "well done" or something from others for some accomplishment.

>>220712301
how many 50 or 65 iq friends do you hang out with regularly and enjoy conversing with?
as an anon once said, it's like being in kindergarten as an adult.
you can hang out with them, even enjoy fingerprinting from time to time, but the core of your being is lost in almost every interaction.

>>220712381
Just take joy in your own accomplishments. Many have done so for centuries.

>>220707728
>she's so smart she loves books written by people that are several orders of magnitude dumber than her!
great writing

>>220712245
You should read up on "ecology" and learn more about the natural sciences and the natural world, as well as the ecocentric model of life.

As a said, ALL traits that are possessed and have been possessed, were in possession for the SOLE purpose of increasing the odds of survival.
Intelligence was and is a mechanism for measuring the world more effectively to make sure you can survive.

Life is FAR older and inclusive of WAAAAY more than human beings.

If you can memorize where ALL the fruit bearing trees are, and can gauge the optimal way to climb the trees, then you can likely get more food for your people at less cost than I can
Who's group do you think survives longer, if you remove probability from the occasion?
The world humans inhabit now is a farce, and is rapidly disintegrating. The things that REALLY matter to the vast majority of life will become more and more apparent as the "limit to growth" is more approached.

>>220712409
I do, but it would just be nice for someone to notice sometimes I guess. I think for the most part I'd like a bit more of that feeling of noticed accomplishment at work, as anything in my personal life I feel fine with accomplishing without anyone needing to notice.

>>220712423
>who's

>>220712178
Okay.

>>220712394
None.

But I don't think being above average precludes you from enjoying interactions with the average person.
And it isn't that difficult to find people of above average intelligence, within a reasonable range from average.

Though I am probably the worst person to actually try to say this since I have a lifetime of experience trying to dumb myself down for others to better get along with them. Not to mention finding myself a deeply unhappy person when I really was trying to think a lot about things and find life far more enjoyable the more you numb yourself.
So my opinion is more than a little biased.

I couldn't imagine how it must feel though to not even be able to find people on the upper end of average on the same level as the average person finds children.

>>220712525
it's the same distance, just moved up the scale.
imagine having to measure your language and talk down to doctors.
id expect a lot of high iq people, especially who miss out on guidance or proper support at critical ages end up as loner wasters just plodding along waiting for death.

>>220712409
The issue emerges when the need for social approval is tied to having a comfortable life. You need people to care about what you make enough to give you money to do more of it at the very least. If this is not achieved, you dont get money and most spend time doing other stuff to get the money and this takes away from the time you have to do the stuff you actually want to do. Time management in theory addresses this but keeping that in place gets really fucking hard.

>>220712649
It isn't as if we try to find high iq people and encourage or support them.
I would say the majority of smarter people don't really get any benefit out of it and only detriment. Pretty much only relevant in their hobbies and personal interests.

>>220712715
the world's designed for average people, that's how it works. being a step above average makes life better in general, you still enjoy similar things, but have more options, higher wage, and you still have a wide set of options with which to make use of your skills.
beyond that, it becomes theoretical, and above that there's not much to do.
anyone particularly high born now is usually wasted, and would have had a better life if they'd been born hundreds or thousands of years from now.

>>220712454
It's important not to be too close to perfection until all metrics of the physical being are aligned, and that can't be done until the metaphysical body is understood (by the experiencer)

You can't write perfectly until you can speak perfect, destroy perfectly, heal perfectly, observe perfectly, etc., all in concert.
You can't even envision that form until you acknowledge that you are an accretion of energy, and that your body is something that is doing you a great service to lend you it's aid.

This perfection of course is physical perfection, which will always be unapproachable. I imagine the closer you get to physical perfection the closer you are to shedding your corporeal form.

Not that I would. This old harness has earned my dedication until it has chosen retirement

>smart character reads Shakespeare
I hope that one day writers move on from this but that would just require schools and colleges to use something else for literacy classes

>the most intelligent person on earth is some homo erectus off shoot sheboon
Why are they pushing black women so hard into these roles? My suspension of disbelief only goes so far. A guy in spandex shooting lasers out of his eyes is more believable.

>>220712394
This was what Jung described as true loneliness

Paraphrasing, he basically said
>loneliness doesn't come from being physically alone, it comes from being in situations where your thoughts cant be expressed, and in groups where your opinions are inadmissible.

Look at history man, most of the greatest thinkers felt the best place and company was with them, among themselfs.
>inb4 typo anon points out my mistake

>>220713068
same

>>220713068
>Why are they pushing black women so hard into these roles? My suspension of disbelief only goes so far. A guy in spandex shooting lasers out of his eyes is more believable.
It's a consequence of whites strangle-holding culture across the world for a long time
Whether intentionally or not, that's what happened

A person would be stupid to think that Newton's 2nd law of motion doesn't manifest in ALL elements of reality.

>>220713068
>homo erectus off shoot sheboon
I dont understand, what does her being american have anything to do with it?

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>>220713068
Real answer is 54% of British women would prefer a black boyfriend. Besides being 2% of the population blacks are 20% of the BBC(ha) tv roles. Indians being 20% of London are 3% of the roles. Its not about representation or woke. Its white women consumers love joggers.

>>220712974
>>220713022
when iq threads occasionally show up, I truly loathe how they fill with dilettantes espousing vague hallmarks about life and death and general philosophical malaise; which is quite earnestly much ado about nothing. (You) type so many words with such intent yet say absolutely nothing. I hate you. I hate you for even imagining, for a nanosecond or even less, you posses an iota of elevated intellect. let alone exist alongside the grandeur of my own existence. die well, die happy, but certainly die forgotten.

>>220713073
that covers people who refuse to accept lies as well. likely why some people still stick around here, because the feeling of not being able to speak your mind, even to strangers across the internet, is a dismal one.
iit's easy enough to hang out with people but it's only on certain levels or for certain elements. clicking and getting one another happens once per decade and circumstance usually means it's very short lived.
life's not meant to be like that

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>>220713135
Huh? If you arent watching synecdoche new york and Holy Mountain trading millions, your not smart. Simple as.

>>220707778
I’m high IQ af. I pretty much spend my entire day reading, not interacting with low IQ normies, and desiring but not having sex.

>>220713108
>wiypipo invent TV and film and printing and recorded music and satellites and electricity and the internet
>wiypipo start entertaining themselves and sending it out to wiypipo in they countries n sheeeit
>NOOO STOP YOU CAN'T DO THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO COME INTO YOUR COUNTRIES AND THEN DEMAND WE ARE IN EVERYTHING

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the finale needed more Marie

>>220707728
You can't write a character smarter than you are.

>>220711957
You have to kill yourself today

>>220713179
if you didn’t want black people in america, should’ve picked your own cotton. your great grand daddy was a lazy man and he made your life worse for it

>>220707937
Shakespeare era English is rough but still intelligible to any non-retard. Anything before 1500 though? You might as well be reading a foreign language honestly.

>>220713179
>find great fruit
>eat it rampantly and damage it's ability to replenish itself
>"FUCKING SQUIRRELS I HATE SQUIRRELS!"

>>220713135
>startrek plebbit pseud

>>220712974
It is not designed for average people at all, it is designed for making a fictional number go up that has no bearing on how you live.

Shakespeare is not an easy read, but we read him when I was in middle school (in America), so it's definitely possible.

>>220713135
see
>>220712221

Oh yeah dude I'm SUUUCH a non-physicalist. It's totally that.
It's definitely NOT that I'm trying to examine ALL elements of reality to gain a whole understanding.

>>220713210
like someone squeezed a turd into a condom

>>220713281
I am sorry. Next post, I’ll write a word limit and poorly spelt Ted Talk filled with generic ramblings about how average the average person is.

>>220713247
Actually Cotton didn’t really take off until the textile part of the Industrial Revolution when the Atlantic slave trade was already banned. It was mostly tobacco before.

>>220713287
>all of school is retardoid busy work at snail's pace, mostly rote learning
>all media is retardoid
>all rules are retardoid to keep the zoo animals in place

>>220713294
He isn’t a hard read because he’s this high culture super smart Infinite Jest puzzle of a work, he is a hard read because you are learning Middle English as you read it to understand what they mean. It’s a cultural study as much as it is a literature study. You’re getting an insight into the world Shakespeare was from and seeing how the English language evolved. Shit today we consider stupid in a several centuries will be seen as “elite” because of allusions to memes and in-jokes you must be informed about to understand. And because the way we talk will mutate further from today despite the standardizations of global information.

>>220707778
Like a normal person but more competent, less impulsive, and better at problem solving.

I wonder if they used Othello specifically because Lawrence Olivier did blackface and it was still high art

>>220713325
the apology sounds insincere. I'll accept it when you mean it, plebbitry.

>>220713294
yeah of course its a hard read
they aren't fucking books but stage plays and you are meant to watch them not read them

not to mention the language differences

>>220707841
actually a lot of the entendres are written so both classes get a joke

>>220713344
I know that. One thing that bugs me is when people try to write something in Early Modern English but can't get the grammar correct (thee/thou, verb conjugations, etc.). It's not difficult to understand if you just study it a bit.
>>220713373
They may be stage plays but that doesn't mean they aren't worthy as works of literature in their own right.

>>220707781
It’s trash anyways. We don’t have enough historical context now to judge whether being called a “horse’s ass” was commonplace or the writer reaching for an insult to link to something else horse-related. I won’t call it genius without knowing that though. As far as I’m concerned, it’s an untranslatable foreign language.

>>220713294
I swear you faggots ITT must have been reading an edited version of Shakespeare because raw Shakespeare, and other writings from the period like the Marprelate tracts, are actually irritating af to read.

Leftoids thinking that memory and education is the same as intelligence has been catastrophic for our society... we're full of educated idiots

>>220713344
memeology is already a studyable field.
it's incredibly complex when broken down, despite being intuitive when within it for long enough.

>>220713399
everyone has a degree, not one can think.
ideal, easily controllable society.

>>220713371
I use plebbit. Now that is admitted, you can ban me, or kill me, or whatever. Which is totally a thing you can do and there are very real consequences for admitting to it. Remember, I also care about your opinion, and what you think, so your judgement of my use of plebbit is actually important to me. I will likely cry if you insult me for the embarrassment. Please, don't make me feel alienated, or isolated, or detached from this /tv/ hivemind; Because I so strongly crave and yearn for your collective acceptance of my own estranged existence. My whole and entire psychology hinges on your tribal and online friendship. Thank (You), fren.

>>220713380
it was the simpsons of its day

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>>220707728
>cue hundreds of movies with le heckin smarterino black man
>show them reading Shakespeare or playing chess in a park to show how smart they are

>>220711496
>They're too unpredictable and almost impossible to read because they have no idea what they're doing.
Chess players shidd and pidd their pants when their opponent isn't playing the current meta because their opponent was trained by some grandmaster unc who stopped playing chess 20 years ago.

>>220713475
>People centuries from now Studying simpsons scripts without seeing the cartoons
I hope they have fun with that

>>220713471
still not a complete apology.

>>220712715
We do the direct opposite of supporting high IQ people, anon.
We put them in courses they pay hundreds of thousands in debt for and sleep deprive them to earn their degree, and then sleep deprive them further and fry their brains in their jobs necessary to keep the average midwit and below going in society (gamers rise up).

We don't incentivise smart people to breed, and we don't incentivise them to protect their minds, healthwise.

>>220713525
boring bantz/10

high iq correlate with creative language. i ask you use it. but (You) won't

>>220713487
>Enter Bartholomew
>Bartholomew lowerf hif shortf
>Bartholomew: "Eat my fhortf"
>Exeunt
Future historian1: "one wonders why he lowered his shorts before eating them."
Future historian 2: "if he takes them off will he die?"

>>220713595
jej

>>220713573
more efficient to just call you plebbit and have you respond.

>>220713610
hence why it's boring

>>220713636
making things gradually more boring is one method

>>220713344
Chaucer is Middle English, Shakespeare is Early Mosern English.

>>220713653
k

>>220713671
I win

>>220713730
congratulations you win /tv/ your soulmate and one true cherished life partner who will love you unconditionally and infinitely is in the mail

>>220713658
Damn it, only a B+ on my English test now

>>220713210
Not even a wiggle

>>220712974
>being a step above average makes life better in general, you still enjoy similar things, but have more options, higher wage, and you still have a wide set of options with which to make use of your skills.
Average people hate those better than them. Manlets hate tall guys.

I've had a regional manager hire a retard as a store manager over me because I didn't smile 24/7, so I left 2 weeks later. Retard got fired for injuring an employee.

I've had a manager actively try to sabotage me after finding out I was going to college by fucking up my schedule as much as possible.

I didn't get hired because I corrected the manager on something small during the interview.

I didn't get hired at another place because they were scared I'd job hop because a smart guy similar to me did since HR refused to pay him what he was worth.

Average people prefer charismatic useless guys over smart quiet polite productive guys. Almost every overly friendly guy I've worked with was a lazy useless cock sucker that'd try to get you to do his job for him. I get them to stop talking to me by promising to do things for them and never doing them. Average IQ co-workers know they're lazy and useless, but still fall for the cock suckers' "friendliness".

Surprisingly though I've never worked with overly friendly females that try to trick you into doing their job. Although I did have an overly friendly female co-worker when I had young boyish good looks who wanted to introduce her dyke GF to the magic of wieners.

>>220713800
Historical time periods are an exercise of chronological snobbery. Lines drawn to hallucinate order on the chaotic mutation of a language over time.
But with modern the distinction has relevance as post-printing press the way languages were written and their vernacular got more codified. "Correct spelling" wasn't a thing once. Now it is a huge deal. It is kinda hard to go my information medium since the last century invented those constantly as radio/tv/internet/movie/phone/tape and so on all were invented within decades of each other. I personally think 1993 to be a good year for when this time period started but I've seen other people say 2010 and I'm sure academia runs in constant circles about this sorta stuff.

>>220713884
I was told and trained by my parents to basically lie to the manager and never tell them anything beyond the basic needs along with to not over exert effort when on the clock because they'll work you to death by making you do more for the same pay and it is better to just job hop rather than try to fight for a raise.
They were pretty spot on.

>>220707728
>wants to hide in a bunker and read all day
>to achieve this, she has to genocide the human race for some reason
>this is never elaborated upon at all
Great writing

>>220713762
enjoy your ride back to plebbit

>>220713068
Why does this bother mediocre white people and brownoids so much. Lmao you guys are so pathetic

you dont read shakeapeaere, you play it or watch it played. you memorize your own lines/scenes at best.

>>220713884
what I meant was 110/115 usually go through a path of university, select a field, have a better job that the average in terms of expected wage.
outliers, or people with higher iq than their field weren't really covered.
sounds like you've suffered like I have in some ways.
i was recently kicked out of a company I'd been in for years because a young retard girl cosied up to the boss, whispered in his ear and I was gone, no discussion.
my advice to me as well as you is if you're stuck outside of a sphere where you'd be appreciated, for whatever reason, then keep taking training courses and level up all useful skills in various directions so you become a swiss army knife.
they say "never let an idiot be your boss" but that's hard to do when they all are.
dancing around trying to protect their egos by pretending to be stupid is exhausting.
finding a way to be your own boss, self employed as much as possible is a decent thing to work towards.

>>220714029
had similar advice off a neighbour, but I don't know if I've followed it.
>never be too good at your job, otherwise they'll keep you there working twice as much and never promote you.

>>220714029
I helped a lot of younger hard working guys in that regard. Also to be strict about their availability and only break it if they're getting overtime and/or it's an actually emergency IE snowstorm/hurricane.

>>220714237
I got into a situation where "real recognize real". They let me shadow them, see what they do, and teach me a few things. They said I learned a shit ton faster than guys right out of college, so I finally got a good job where I'm paid what I was worth.

>dancing around trying to protect their egos by pretending to be stupid is exhausting.
And never have anything nicer than them. Don't dress better, don't have a better car, if your GF/wife is hotter than theirs don't let them know what she looks like.

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>>220707778
There are at least 6 tiers of intelligence. I'm myself a 5, but there's definitely a tier 6, since i'm not a genius. level 0 is animals.

lower tiers literally cannot comprehend what higher tier mind is like, but overall tiers have to do with perceiving dimensions of the symbolic world.

for example, tier 1 abbos literally do not perceive relations across time. tier 2 nigs cannot perceive conditionals "but i HAD breakfast" and only process a single narrative thread to their world, built off associations. tier 3 normie has trouble internalizing systems and cannot learn to program, because he can't really see perceive abstract logic, at best he can try to memorize it. tier 4 engineers of >iq110 are incapable of cross-system thinking an inventor like me uses 24/7, and i am incapable of even conceptualizing whatever someone like Einstein or Newton was able to do.

>>220714343
Left out the job hop over raise thing I noticed
Job hopping is underrated
Companies love poaching workers from each other

>>220707728
She could have done some actual cool smart stuff like building an anti-homelander armor, but that would be not lame and gay so of course she invents nothing

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Oh an in this thread there are no tier 5 minds besides myself, that is almost certain.

>>220714432
Or she could have manipulated a lot of people and put things into motion like Ozymandias to get Homelander to stop doing whatever it is they don't like(haven't watched beyond season 2).

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>>220714563
You can't reliably manipulate people no matter your intelligence. You can press people's buttons if you know psychology well(i literally scammed my way into 1st world), but you cannot plan off manipulation no matter how smart you are, because you don't have complete control over what people will think or talk about when you're not there. And probabilistic manipulation is impossible because communications is a chaotic system. Chinese keikaku trope never works out irl and is something a tier 4 would come up with,

>>220714386
I think that works best when you have a job, a bit like with girls, you're more desirable when you're already taken.

>>220714689
Fine. They could have at least written her like bendabitch cucumberpatch's Sherlock Holmes, where he just magically knows things and everything just works out for him with huge gaping plotholes.

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>>220714383
theoretical is only 130

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I really don't see the point of discussing things like intelligence on 4chan, on /tv/ of all boards.
I'm all for trying to bring back "effortposting" until the bitter end of this shithole, but at some point you're just wasting your effort while knowing you are wasting it.

There's been a few good posts here, sure, but they got drowned by the filth pretty quickly.
Most posts here are a variation of retards chiming in as if they could ever know what intelligence is (ie that idiot who divided intelligent types into HS cliques) or virgin NEETs who think themselves above others because they don't mingle with the "plebs"... because they don't mingle with anyone, being losers shut-ins who consume anime and vidya only. Please don't think there's any correlation between how their life turned out and their intelligence, there isn't, honest!

And so you got losers like these:
>>220714383
>>220714433
>>220713135

...a redditor and a weeb (who's part of the most pathetic fandom weebdom has to offer), that keep spamming their desperation in the hopes somebody buys their bullshit for one second.

>why are you here
To tell those few poster here who actually posted something interesting or sensible to waste their time somewhere else (I know I will, first and last post in this thread) and save their effortposts for more appropriate occasions. I don't want the last few anons who give a shit to burn out due to the amount of schizos and retards infesting this place.

>>220714963
nice copypasta

>>220714963
>but at some point you're just wasting your effort while knowing you are wasting it.
This anon has never had his posts screenshotted, saved, and reposted years later by other anons.

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>>220714910
Yea, but that's the same issue of planning around chaotic systems. You can solve puzzles only because they're static. If you have a bunch of variables changing over time, like you do irl, the system becomes chaotic and unpredictable, it has hard cutoffs past which you just cannot know. Because of that intelligence doesn't give immediate competitive advantage, which is why it took so long for us to emerge on this planet. The current ending where she reverse-engineered the depowering beam is honestly the most realistic, being superintelligent she would've been able to quickly fill the blanks on v1 research papers, conceptualise how and why it works, and find the titbeam technology. What's not realistic, is that sister sage was moping over normie shit instead of taking over vaught and honestly the entire world 20 years before the series started. Highly intelligent people are not suicidal, that's just jewish schizophrenia, and jews consider themselves superintelligent.
>>220714913
I'm supposedly iq137, but afaict iq tests are meaningless outside 70-110 range or so.

>>220714383
I think cross system all the time and am still retarded

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>>220714963
son, you're just demoralized. get some irl friends instead of seething at anons. irl friends and anons are different types of relationships.

>>220715062
I am not demoralized. YOU are demoralized. I am here to save you and the future of this board here, and yet your self-righteous holier-than-thou arrogant self disregards me.

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>>220715048
well, i have an actual test for tier 5:

without relying on knowledge of physics, explain why the moon always faces the earth and explain your reasoning concisely. use these facts:
1. moon somehow causes tides
2. earth is sitting in a void

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>>220715097
no you are clearly demoralized and trying to get under our skin because, ugh... well maybe you're lonely and feel like 4chan trapped you into loneliness where you'll never be able to connect with anyone. you blame the site and don't believe you can escape it, so you lash out at the other posters. go find irl friends, dude. literally walk into the local sports club and start chatting up people.

>>220715010
I don't think that's done much anymore.
weird how the standard culture has been almost completely lost.
also, I only ever saw one or two of my posts reposted in the last 20 years. I had tons of replies at some times.
had a post turn into a pasta, short lived I think

>>220715104
the moon is always facing away from earth.

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>>220715342
why?

>>220715097
he already won because you replied again despite saying you wouldn't.
most of what you said was right, more in the second half, but who knows since a lot was vague and therefore your true stance can't be seen.
the whole site's dead, effort posting died a decade ago, so any remnants anywhere should be appreciated regardless of the shit that surrounds them.
there is nowhere else; seeing any posts that resemble humans instead or bots is pleasant.

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swap the faces in that image and you'll get it.

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>>220715394
can you explain your reasoning, though? or is this le fun trolling by posting nosense in response to le smart posts?

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>>220715371
It’s tidally locked. Basically because the moon is affected by gravity but it’s also spinning, as it rotates away it’s being pulled slightly back and as it rotates toward its being pulled slightly forward. Over millions of years this pull balances out and the rotation matches the period of orbit so one face always points towards the object it’s orbiting (Earth)

This happens to many moons of Jupiter and Saturn. It can happen to planets too, but too far away and the planets don’t really feel it in their orbits so we have no planets tidally locked in our solar system, but planets around red dwarfs are hypothesised to be almost always tidally locked

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>>220715104
Because the moon is bonded to the earth by an invisible chain that binds the earth and the moon together in the endless void of existence. Chinese astronomers (Shen Kuo specifically, if I recall correctly) figured out this aspect about the moon and its relationship to earth without the need for any modern physics. As premodern astronomy does not count as physics as we know, their understanding is what I loosely go by. The tides come and go with the moon as the moon’s chain pulls on earth, just as the earth pulls on the moon. This activity raises the tides in its presence as a notable control on the size of tides But the moon is not the only cause of the tides. The currents of the ocean, the direction of the sea winds and local geography all also factor into the flow of the ocean. The moon’s gaze for this reason is not fully correlated to the tides, butt strongest tides do often happen in its judgmental, watchful presence. And it is a very judgemental moon, one staring back at the earth constantly. It is mercifully, only a mild contempt. A true scorn for humanity would have caused every high lunar tide to usher in a tsunami, rendering coastlines effectively uninhabitable.

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>>220715549
yes that's a tier 4 explanation you read in a physics book, as a tier 4 you're thinking using concepts from within a system. i'm asking anyone who think he's a multi-system thinker to explain the process without relying on physics context >>220715104

>>220715592
that is a tier 2 magical thinking explanation when you don't have a system.

>>220715474
can you explain why you believe it is facing the earth when it is facing away

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>>220715664
i arbitrarily assumed its orientation as opposite to mine. if you're thinking it's facing away(the same way you're looking at it), you may be a homosexual.

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>>220707778
Smart people invent technologies and work in heavy duty scientific industries, which means they have memorized lots of incredibly complex shit about the field they're in. So memory is in fact pretty much the only form of intelligence. Sage is just a useless shitter who didn't do anything.

Every other "interpretation" of intelligence like in the replies is pure cope.

>>220715598
Please go ahead and explain how a ball moves when thrown in the air on Earth without referring to physics mister multi-system thinker

>>220715615
>magical thinking
>Ignored the three systems interconnecting in the explanation
You can’t even see the cross system thinking so your blind mind only sees tier 2 magical thinking. Maybe spend less time rotting your brain on ChatGPT and actually learn something for once?

>>220715753
dude no. you're a tier 4 thinking there's only the system. and memory is completely orthogonal to intelligence.

>>220708210
this

>The Anon talking about intelligence tiers got the idea from less wrong articles
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NxGHQ6DWqnrjm9r6F/how-useful-is-cross-domain-generalization-for-training-llm-2

>>220715781
>There is only the system but it’s magical thinking if you use multiple systems in a way I didn’t think of

>>220715753
>memory is in fact pretty much the only form of intelligence
No see this is what stupid people think. Probably because you went to school where the only way they could test everyone equally was to give them tests of memory. Real intelligence is about applying knowledge in a way that is useful, memory is necessary to recall that knowledge.
A computer with every textbook on physics saved to it’s hard drive isn’t intelligent
A computer that can use that information to design and create rocket ships would be intelligent. The better it is at that the more intelligent we would call it

>>220715755
why are you mad? you are what you are.
>>220715757
that's not how multi-system thinking works. being below tier 5 you wouldn't get how it works anyway. i posted the test to check any tier 5 anons, not to "challenge" or "own" lower tiers.

please calm your jimmies, i can't comprehend tier 6 either.

>>220715811
Where is the mad? You asked me to do the impossible so I reflected your own stupidity back at you.
Note how you have no answer

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>>220708210
that doesn't mean you're smart, that just means you have a weak self and are impulsive. complexes(memories physically stored in your brain) are driving your behaviour by making you feel "sad" and you go along with them.

if you were smart you would've realised this yourself.

>>220707781
Shakespeare only holds such cultural weight because of the surrounding myth that he was a nobody shoe maker who secretly churned out "masterpieces" one after another, when in truth they were just above average works per then's standards of a sheltered poofter noble.

if you are reasonably intelligent (not a retard) you will have hundreds of moments throughout your life when you remember something from a movie you saw with friends two days ago and your friends will be like "dude how do you even remember that?" but it's like not difficult to remember at all, as an example
that doesn't make you particularly intelligent, though, it's just that most people are fucking idiots and that's how most writers think being a "genius" works

>>220715839
I’ve never heard that myth about Shakespeare. His works have endured because he put to paper things that his contemporaries did not, and then his works survived. There is a lot of debate about whether words “invented” by Shakespeare were genuinely original or whether they were in common use by the poor and he just wrote them down
Thanks for trying to sound intelligent though anon

>>220715809
Having to crack open a textbook or google over every little thing about your job doesn't mean you're good at """applying knowledge""", it means you're a fucking retard who didn't study in school and suck at your job.

>>220715855
>intelligece = memory
See >>220715809

>>220715811
>Multisystem thinking
My body is multisystem DOING you prevaricating slime.
I breathe
I pump blood
I process with guts
I move with muscle
I feel irritation on my skin
Every human exists as multi-systems thinkers
They simply do so involuntarily without need for tediousness conscious thought

My neurons flare new countless ways to torment you

>>220715862
>I watched Suits so I think good lawyers must have every rule and law memorized!!!
Lol
Also
>muh

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>>220707778
TV smart people are basically supernatural wizards. Actual smart people can generate useful inferences and apply them in their lives.

>>220715875
retard
see: >>220715855
>that doesn't actually make you particularly intelligent
but merely having decent recall doesn't put you in a higher bracket than 80% of the population
if you can name 3 actors from memory, you're a smarter person than most people
but again, and I'm saying this again, that doesn't actually mean you're smart, the bar is just that low

>>220707728
the world's smartest woman never accomplished a single one of her retarded fucking plans, what a great show, I hope she shoots herself in the head and eats taco bell again

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>>220715808
no, i invented my tier system myself, and the moon test is literally me reasoning through how tidal locking works, when i asked my grandpa about it as a kid. my gramps was an electrical engineer at a govt. institute and he could never ever go past a single system. neither any of my engineer friends can go past a single system. man, i miss grandpa.

also it's not lesswrong who invented intelligence classification first, i asked chatgpt about this and it brought up a cognitive scientist who came up with a similar system like 50 years ago.
> but it’s magical thinkin
it is magical thinking. multisystem mind doesn't work like you think it does. being a tier 4, most likely, you cannot comprehend tier 5. intelligence isn't like knowledge, you can't fucking learn it and i cannot explain it to you. intelligence is literally your ability to conceptualise anything at all. i can't actually explain to you how one would conceptualise differently from you. you wouldn't be able to explain time to a dog either.
>>220715820
it's a very simple test for tier 5. i'm not trolling by posting an impossible test, i just wanted to verify the anon at >>220715048

>>220715919
I am a multisystem mind. You simply aren’t seeing the multiple systems at play because you aren’t a multisystem mind. So it is something you don’t actually see.

>>220715104
earth and moon are dancing an eternal dance of death where they must dodge their each others strikes of love t. tier 6

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>>220715855
>>220715862
memory is completely orthogonal to intelligence. you can be a tier 2 retard and have eidetic recall. well ok memory is kinda linked to intelligence(also probably being smarter you will compress the experiences better and have more relative storage space), as it's all one substrate in our brains, but they can vary pretty wildly.

>>220715861
>Thanks for trying to sound intelligent though anon
The popularity of Shakespeare is entirely dependent on the man's reputation, historically speaking. You not knowing this doesn't make it untrue. You praise him because you were told to by others who fell for or learnt from those who fell for the myth and consequently gave those works overwhelming, very much undeserved praise.

>>220715883
>a good lawyer is one who doesn't remember any laws and just googles everything he needs
You sure?

>>220715974
You don’t process it
You don’t smell or hear it
And you sure as hell can’t feel it

>>220715988
top tier lawyers let ai craft their cases from the ground up and make the ai fill them with esoteric or even made up laws

Taco bell

Part of the education is not memory alone but also knowing where to look for the most reliable and accurate information and how to dig into sites like JSTOR or arxiv properly.
Along with archive.org
I love that site

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>>220715881
>>220715974
>>220715976
every. fucking. time.

every fucking time the intelligence discussion is brought up, there's always a little fragile ego shitstain like you getting offended and screaming like a literal kid "MLE MLE MLE I'M NOT MAD YOU'RE MAD". dude just fuck off. you are tier 4 or 3 and no one can do anything about that. go get your sense of achievement from something other then not being called dumb on the internet.

>>220715988
>durrrrrr what about my extreme scenario huh?
See how unintelligent you are?
But anyway I’m gonna blow your mind. You can ask a lawyer to represent you in an area of law they’ve never studied before and they will…go look it up! I know, shocking isn’t it? And then, when you get to court you don’t win or lose based on how much of the code they can recite, you win based on how well your lawyer applied the law to the facts of your case and how persuasive they sounded when doing so

>>220716033
Talmbout Baja Blast, b?

>>220716034
Primary sources and cross referencing them is the bread and butter of any historian
If don’t even do that, you can’t call you self a historian.
Read the letters soldiers from ww1 wrote to home and weep

>>220707841
We don’t let writers invent words anymore. We should bring that back

>>220715981
>The popularity of Shakespeare is entirely dependent on the man's reputation, historically speaking.
It isn’t.
>You not knowing this doesn't make it untrue
You believing something doesnt make it true.
>You praise him
I don’t.
>undeserved praise.
It sure sounds like you just don’t like Shakespeare and have come up with an excuse for why he’s so highly regarded which involves everyone but you being duped.
Did da wittle baby cwy when he had to wearn iambic pentameter? :(

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There's only 1, and exactly 1 objective way of measuring intelligence, and that is by how much capital one can acquire in their lifetime. Elon Musk is the most intelligent man on earth, nay, history.

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>>220716034
yes, part of competence is the training in of how to apply the factual knowledge and the knowledge about contradictions and gaps in that knowledge. that is called wisdom and is also orthogonal to intelligence.

>>220716034
Nah, that's cope. If it's not committed to your memory, you don't actually know it. Any retard can "look it up." It is not a signifier of intelligence.
>>220716037
And I wouldn't consider this hypothetical lawyer more intelligent than one who knows more areas.

>>220716072
Then jeet scammers must be 1000IQ and not 80IQ shitstains preying on elderly people

>>220716072
Sure thing, Bhupinder.

>>220716084
>heh I want a lawyer that memorized factoids about lots of areas of law instead of one who specializes in 1 area and has to look things up to prepare a case
You’re doing a fantastic job of proving that to stupid people intelligence is just magic, thank you

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>>220716084
you are a tier 4 who thinks tier 5 is impossible, which is ironic, considering you cannot even formulate how other tiers are dumber than you.

do you think a dog with photographic memory would be superintelligent?

>>220716062
>I was told this is magnificent by Smart Man therefore this is magnificent
Seems like you got duped by your need to be accepted by your superiors. Happens to the best of midwits, it's ok. Don't even bother looking up the historical set up of the current understanding.

>>220716036
as a tier 6 i find it ridiculously easy to comprehend the concept of multiminded universality and how a consciouss moons and hyperconscious earths noospheres interact with the tangible four dimensions

>>220716123
>Still mad
kekkini!

>>220716077
You know orthogonal means separate, right? I genuinely can’t tell if you intended to say that. If you did, see >>220715809

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>>220716072
tier 3 idea about intelligence. you think in terms of simple conditionals.

>>220716114
Youre replying to a post where I said I don’t praise him at all. You then say I think he was magnificent and smart.
If you’re too stupid to read the words in front of you, maybe it’s not you alone in the world that saw through some kind of ruse?

>>220716105
>memorized factoids
Notice how hard you're trying to downplay the sheer value of memorization.
>He couldn't have memorized more than me! His knowledge must be faulty somehow!
You already understand that it's the only viable form of intelligence and just can't admit it because then you'd have to confront your personal shortcomings (being a lazy retard).

>>220713260
The Cantebury Tales and Wycliffe's Bible were written in the 1300s and are still 95% intelligible to a learned native English speaker. I've also read poems written in the 1200s that you can understand with a short introduction and the occasional google search. It's only pre-Norman that it becomes essentially a foreign language.

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>>220716036
No refutation, only baseless claims of frameworks without substance.
You fail to see the hydrological systems and geographic systems at play with the tides and how the mythology is in itself a system of eldritch divinities. You dismiss it as magic even as it is self consistent and intersectional to the other two systems at play. You degrade the achievements of Shen Kuo as nothing but magic despite their topological survey being one which achieved a near perfect prediction of the lunar tides. You show no ability to hold to parallel cosmovisions and use the intersections between them to arrive at a closer understanding of the true nature of the concept of tidal locking and the loose yet all pervasive grip of gravity upon the void.

>>220716129
this is the sisyphuhehan fate of tier 6s, lesser tiers are always aggravated by that which eludes their crude sense and sensibilities

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>>220716131
i say orthogonal because it's one of the parts of the basis. knowledge(neural storage capacity), wisdom(neural reflection capacity + anxiety) and intelligence(neural flexibility capacity) form the basis for being smart. there may also have been something else, but these 3 are the main axes.

>>220716166
They reek of a piss stained atmosphere whose climate systems rain crystallized urine

>>220716152
>say he got undeserved praise
>"no the praise is legit because everyone else (including smart people) is right and you're wrong"
Maybe stop posting.

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>>220716123
you are literally a little kid sticking your tongue out and going "bebebe!" because your ego was threatened and that made you super mad. play "slay the princess", it's a therapy session you can pirate for free, might help strengthen your self.

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>>220716181
There are 39 modalities of intelligence missing from this analysis you fraudulent LLM parrot.

>>220716211
I have jerking off in the intestine of a large bellied pear dragon for that fine thank you.

>>220716037
>I'm such an amazing engineer! I googled how to build a bridge and followed the instructions. I am incredibly intelligent.
This is genuinely how they think over in Outsource Asia. It's fucking horrifying.

They are unable to produce any example of a type 5 thinker
They have cosmovision parallelization
Frankly I hate having it
Seems easier to exist without the neurosis that shit can cause you

>>220716155
Nah I said memorization is useful in application which is the true measure of intelligence.the problem is you think recall is more important than it is, for any number of reasons
>did well in school memorization tests and got told you were smart
>win a lot of trivia games
>have a shit memory and are in awe of those who don’t
I’m gonna guess it’s the first of those based on the fact the 2nd half of your post is suggesting others are envious of a good memory.

I’ll just tell you anon, I am a lawyer and that’s why I chose law for an example. I can tell you that to make our assessments fair we would be given advocacy exercises based on obscure areas of law because they wanted us to develop and apply skills to find relevant law and build arguments applying it.
Memorization was worthless. If you expected to need something word for word, you would just copy and paste it into your notes. We did not memorize our arguments either, in fact we were encouraged to write bulletppint plans to keep us on track. A major part of our marking was based on how we interacted to interventions from the judge.
Memorization doesnt mean shit for intelligence. Intelligence is about prediction and preparation.
Now go ahead and post your copes. Shall I predict some?
>well you must be a shitty lawyer then!!!
>well you must have gone to a shitty law school!!
>well you must be making it all up!!!

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>>220716212
completely buck broken, hysterical, shitting and pissing all around himself. this is why fragile ego little shits should be anally raped.

>>220716191
Point me to where I praised Shakespeare, by all means.

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>>220716250
Do you even visualize four dimensional forms in your latent thoughtspace?
Or are you too busy thinking you’re brilliant but lazy?

>>220713884
>>220713073
>>220713149
yep if you insist that something has to make sense or be done the right way it infuriates the average person. They cannot understand why on earth you care so much about this thing, why don't you just chill out and do it their way, the wrong way, the immoral way, the shit way that is worse for everyone and everything and is obviously going to cause many problems. You can even explain it to them in great detail but it doesn't work. They physically cannot make themselves think and care about it enough, they will fall back on wanting to do it their way. Their ego, emotions, immorality, IQ, whatever that mix is, it prevents them from caring about the truth more than about their own pile of bananas getting bigger immediately.

>>220716249
>>did well in school memorization tests and got told you were smart
>>win a lot of trivia games
>>have a shit memory and are in awe of those who don’t
More coping and sour grapes.

Whole lot of seething and butthurt ITT

>>220716223
No see you’ve completely misunderstood.
Youre not applying knowledge by following instructions, you’re doing as you’re told. The person who wrote the instruction was applying knowledge and is the intelligent one.

Again it might be helpful to think about it in terms of computers.
An ordinary computer can do what you instruct it to do, an intelligent computer can do things you didn’t instruct it to do by drawing on the information it has available to it

>>220716287
Lel so scared he just has to dodge instead

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>>220716282
>Do you even visualize
>visualize
>he's not dumb
>he's a visual thinker
ooof someone just outed himself bigly

Tier 20 super brain here. You are all stupid lmao

>>220713884
Your problem there is that you think western work environments are not just adult daycare

she was stupid all along

all her plans fail

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>>220716284
well tier 3s cannot understand systems. naturally if you push them to try, they'll get mad. they just memorise conditionals.

i have literally explained the entirety of intelligence for you guys and you are still having this fucking slapfight about shakespeare and shit while the fragile ego little shit is pissing all over himself in the corner.

>>220716278
You didn't directly, but you're very keen on defending the status quo.
>>undeserved praise.
>It sure sounds like you just don’t like Shakespeare and have come up with an excuse for why he’s so highly regarded which involves everyone but you being duped.
IE everyone else praises him so you not agreeing means you just don't like him or you were tricked (implying futile reason for disagreeing). So you are more likely to stand with everyone else in praising him than to do your own research or to admit you just don't know. Anyhow, don't bother looking it up, you would probably short circuit given your tendency to let others make up your mind.

>>220716212
zoomers don't know how to sequence speech bubbles.
top-down, left-right. every time.

>>220716367
They're copying manga.

>>220713398
The Marprelate tracts are irritating to read because they're dull religious shit-flinging not because the language is terribly hard to comprehend. Chaucer's English is harder to comprehend but it's a lot more fun because he's an excellent poet writing something interesting.

>>220716361
>you're very keen on defending the status quo.
I’m really not. As someone quite familiar with the historical aspect of Shakespeare I saw you assert something about his popularity that I had never heard before. Upon talking to you it became obvious quickly that you personally do not like his work, are upset that others regard him highly, and needed to rationalize how so many people could disagree with you and therefore be wrong.
My replies to you are a critique of your faulty thinking and not a defense of Shakespeare. Everything you have said to me, including the post I am replying to right now, are demonstrative of low intelligence. You constantly misinterpret and misattribute motivation for your own ego

>>220716354
You are so blind to systems you don’t even notice the systems I have at play across this thread

>>220716395
>that I had never heard before.
And therefore it is unmerited, exactly the point I'm saying you're making. But even so, you firstly said you're not familiar with the "myth" I spoke of, so you are likely to not really know much at all. His identity was a ruse and it was the basis for the majority of his posthumous success.
>Upon talking to you it became obvious quickly that you personally do not like his work
Not really, I did really say they were above average works, didn't I? Just not the epitome of writing as everyone else seems to put it.
>and needed to rationalize how so many people could disagree with you and therefore be wrong
Again, status quo = necessarily right, is what you're trying to claim here.
I'm done with this "convo."

>>220716211
the impotent rage of lesser tiers is frankly below me yet i find it at times curious i am merely an observer of crude creatures

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Alas, nobody here has the spark I seek...