Of course not. No film or TV show has the artistry of a single chapter of The Divine Comedy, for instance.
She's so hot.
>>221034763You will never read a single chapter of the Divine Comedy.
>>221034709>Emily Wilson translationdon't read it, Zendaya!!
>>221034848I read the entire thing, I have engaged with most of the greatest works of art ever made. It's called the western canon, chud.
Movies cannot compete with books, but they are still entertaining. Comics are also superior to movies. The only people who will claim cinema is superior are the Hollywood elites who profit from it being egregiously overvalued.
>>221034904You are the chud, and hence you will never engage with any great works of art.
>>221034709
>>221034995I've listened to claire de loon, I've seen breaking bad, you don't know how deep I am.
They can be.
>>221034709Not really.Movies are weirdly formulaic. If your film doesn't have enough character development or a clear three act structure, people will criticize it heavily for its lack of conformity.Novels are comparatively much more free form structurally and people are generally more open minded about what a good novel looks like. Also art house films are a very tiny percentage of cinema overall but the more experimental kinds of modernist and postmodernist lit are widely read, like Virginia Woolf and and Pynchon respectively.
>>221034709bait used to be good.
>>221034709Shrek./thread
>>221034869The new movie is based on it
>>221035068at least that is art that you could meaningfully engage with. the idea that a chud, a tiny little american chuddie, reads the divine comedy and is emotionally invested in the conflict between white guelphs, black guelphs, and the ghibellines is too ridiculous to even consider.
>>221034709NIPPA
>>221034966That is certainly the state of modern Hollywood, which has completely disregarded film as a medium and is only concerned with it as a product. Good cinema doesn't strive to compete with books, comics, or games; it embraces its own strengths. Past filmmakers largely understood this because many of them still held memories of the stage and appreciated the power of real spectacle - that is, the power of a moment rather than constant undercutting quips and a reliance of fireworks to dazzle and distract.Watch "Eternity and a Day" or "Landscape in the Mist" if you want to be reminded of what actual cinema can be like.
>>221035187>t. Enzo Giardiniara Cicero from Napoli
>>221035187Do you really, seriously think the only reason the Divine Comedy is read today is for its commentary on obscure papal factionalism? Come the fuck on.
>>221035266that's all it is. just endless whinging about how people with a different alliance in the dispute will go to hell.
>>221034709>Wilson translationKek>are movies better than books?KEK
>>221035187Shut the fuck up you pretentious little twat. I’ll not hesitate to bust a nut on your head instantly.
>>221035384>pretentioussays the american who pretends to have read and enjoyed the divine comedy
>>221035204i like this post, so have my upvote +1
>>221034709Books are a singular vision so more pure and more internalMovies are more visceralAnyways the "best" art is music
>>221035415How old are you? You sound like your balls have yet to drop.
>>221034709Most books and movies are structured linearly, from point A to point Z, but video games usually don't have to be.
>>221035108thanks authentic poster. i thought this was just a shitty bait thread. the two mediums should only be compared in that theres normally a narrative. beyond that they’re vastly different in what they can achieve. it’s also important to remember the significance of sound in film. audio visual
>>221034709can it read
>>221035475Agreed unless you're not talking about classical.
>>221035475Appealing to perennial wisdom, the greatest arts are music and architecture. Time without space and space without time.
Not since women took over the book publishing industry. It's actually really depressing to walk into 90% of bookstores now if you know how they used to be just a few years ago. The most common tell is the fantasy shelf. It's ALL romantasy, which to those not in the know is the new name of Young Adult harlequin novel smut for women except even more sloppy, faking it out to be fantasy to steal shelf space. (because women publishers actively refuse to publish white men)The name you think sounds male? Yeah, it's going to be some minority woman complaining about whites.The same is pretty much true for le "literary" space with no one under 50 getting published if they don't tick minority boxes.If you want to read fantasy stuff now you actually have to go online and either order POD stuff on Amazon from micropublishers like DMR Books or read chinese webnovels. The deserved reckoning in book publishing is many times that of the Trump presidency. The worst part? It's not even profitable. Penguin and Simon & Schuster's anti-trust trial admitted that over 60% of their books don't sell even 999 copies and that a good 30-something percent of that is below 12 copies. They basically rely on 1-2 blockbusters in the upmost percentile for all their income.
>>221035597you don't listen to classical music, chud, nobody does.
>>221035665I'm listening to Schubert's wanderer fantasy right now retard
>>221035187even doe chuds are intellectual giants
>>221034709>>221034797>>221035014>>221035200why is she never wearing a bra?
OP is brown
>>221035730modest mogging
>>221035650>wanting to read a book with awkward sex scenes by dead white menUm, get with the times sweaty
>>221035730She refuses to get her tits out, this is the next best "look at me i'm being PROVOCATIVE" play.
>>221035730need tits for bra
>>221035784Now I get to read chinese webnovels where like 1/5th of them write out accidental aphrodisiac drug rape as romance instead.
>>221035690No, you're not.
>NuDUNE book ruined with Villeneuve aesthetic>female translation of the Odyssey that seeks to correct the misogyny of the prior translations
>>221035868on to Tabula Rasa - Arvo Part.
>>221035798They look like something you'd see on national geographic.
>>221035891Arvo Part doesn't count
>>221035875that's not the nudune cover
>>221035932>Neil GaimanThat fucker is still allowed to ruin books with his ass forewords even after it came out that his feminist schtick was hiding that he and his wife and son raped their nannies, call them slaves and trick vulnerable women to live with them in order to sleep with them?I actually had to go out and hunt out another copy of Fafhrd & the Grey Mouser because the asshat's foreword tarnishes the books. (this was well before it came out that he was a rapist, he's just a smarmy midwit cunt and all his books suck)
>>221035932> Kneel, gay man Who writes this shit? Honesty.
>>221034709A movie is as good as the person who made it, a book is as good at the person who is reading it. Your mileage may vary.
>>221034709No
>>221036070So you're saying my post could be a marvel depending on the reader? I find that highly stinky and tardacious.
>>221035650Because women are the only ones who buy books anymore. Chuck Palahniuk wrote fight club in the early 90's after he read an article saying over 80% of literature sold every year were bought by women, so he decided to make the most macho book he could.
>>221036090He’s talking about movies and books. Your post is neither movie or book.
>>221034709>Emily Wilson's Odyssey translation trash
>>221036018>first day working a new nanny job>neil gaymann asks you to take a bath with him and fuck in the bathtub>"noooo I CANNOT afford to lose this nanny job! its impossible to get another job as a nanny with someone who doesn't rape">takes a series of sad selfies after the rape for the day when it is time to cancel him Neil Gaymann was innocent
>>221036092>Because women are the only ones who buy books anymore.No.Self-publishers of actual Fantasy like Wight has sold over a million books and tops NYT and Kindle lists and that shit is basically only for men under a certain age.I won't even get into how much money the industry makes off reprinting old dead male authors from REH to Louis Lamour.They're simply ideologically captured and they even proudly state so in a "it's a good thing sweaty" way most of the time in their own circles, except when it's being pointed out in the mainstream then it isn't happening suddenly. Incidentally we see this with the jp market too. Narou stopped catering to nerdy otaku outside of already established isekai titles and started pushing the shit out of fujo crap everywhere on the site. Their usership outside of readers of the old works cratered and now they've lost a ton of marketshare to kakuyomu, aka kadokawa, because they allow you to actually get away from fujoshit. (and they pay you based on ad views which means more men getting paid)I won't even get into the chinese market, just be aware that there are chinese webnovelists who cater exclusively to men who get royalties of nearly 17 million dollars a year.
>>221036183Nah, as he told us himself we should #BelieveWomen.So I choose to believe them when they say the jewish scientologist feminist whose had a rep as a bit of a creeper actually is one.
>>221034709nobut a good movie is better than a bad book
>>221036278Yes.https://awriterofhistory.com/2024/09/04/does-gender-affect-reading-habits/>This is a pattern. In the 2013 survey, 51% of women read more than 30 books a year compared with 34% of men, in 2015, it was 55% and 28%, and in 2018 it was 60% and 20%.Women are also much better at reading books by men than men are at reading books by women. When it comes to reading, men need a coddled safe space where they're affirmed whereas women really don't care. Women are now getting into the fucking Iliad of all things now.
>>221036493>This is a pattern. In the 2013 surveyThe usual bullshit.The majorit of women who "read" stick to young adult novels that are basically 100 page pamphlets.And now we get booktok ones who don't read at all but just stick to goodreads summaries for views.Meanwhile the men make people into millionaires for catering to them and have legs going into decades.No one's going to read the print-only romantasy smut being shat out in another year, nevermind a decade.Again we know, from court documents, that most books are not making any money at all.
fuck it, I would
>>221036493>than men are at reading books by women.Because women literally only write porn, thinly-veiled porn, racial grifter crap and "reimaginings" of classic works that amount to little more than slandering the dead. And thankfully most of them don't make a dime.
>>221036577
>>221036493women will always tell you they read booksbut never which
>>221036577i wonder who the tallest person she has been withshe probably does miss being the petite one while fucking
Do (You) read? If so, what do you read?
>>221036577Petite bodies are great. She can be hot at times.
>>221036553Not true. My local book store has a bunch of new editions of Jane Austen, Little Women, Dracula, etc., with cover designs clearly targeting women. I've been in reading groups that are predominantly female and women are open to most literary classics. It's quite hard to get men to take Austen, the Brontes, Woolf, etc., seriously. >Meanwhile the men make people into millionairesThey do fucking not. It's been known for decades that women drive consumer spending and the market for books is even more lopsided. >>221036585They don't though. As I said above, there's a bunch of recent republications of classics that are overtly targeting women.Hell, a woman only recently released translations of the Odyssey and Iliad so now girls are getting into that. My local college has a classics department and guess which gender fills most seats for Classical Greek or Latin? What do you think they're going to read with that knowledge?
>>221036621Uh yes, they do? You've never discussed books with women at all.It's extremely easy to find a girl rave about Wuthering Heights.Seriously, just join a fucking book club and stop trying to problematize women when they're objectively doing the right thing.
>>221035014This but in public with people watching
Cute
>>221035744More like mean mugging hahaha
>>221036691>Not true. My local book store has a bunch of new editions of Jane Austen, Little Women, Dracula, etc., with cover designs clearly targeting women. Yes, booktok shit for filling out backdrops on their tiktok videos.>It's quite hard to get men to take Austen, the Brontes, Woolf, etc., seriously.Because 2 out of 3 of those are the equivalent of the smut of a hundred years ago and one is a bourgeoise woman complaining about her family. >They do fucking not.If you go over the people who actually make money off writing it's overwhelmingly men.Women authors basically only make serious money in the romance and YA segment (like Danielle Steel and Nora Roberts) with the standout exception being JK Rowling.>It's been known for decades that women drive consumer spending and the market for books is even more lopsided.The market for books is 60% of them sell less than a thousand copies and out of the remainder the vast majority sell less than 10k copies. >Hell, a woman only recently released translations of the Odyssey and Iliad so now girls are getting into that.Ah yes, Emily Wilson's mistranslation that takes a giant shit on the Odyssey and the Illiad, which are generally used to show just how bad translations can get with her "Tell me about a complicated man, Muse".>What do you think they're going to read with that knowledge?Nothing, they're going to show off on booktok. Maybe a few bulldykes will pretend to care about Sappho until they realize literally only one poem of hers remain.
>>221034709Why is her skin a weird color?
>>221034709Yes, but books have way more range and therefore are still valuable
>>221037031American, many such cases.
Want skinny light skin gfNeed skinny light skin gf
>>221034709i am getting zendaya fatigue
>>221036577>Tom Holland has to watch this while Zendaya watches him getting ass fucked by a niggerIs there a bigger cuck in hollywood right now?
>>221037499>Cuck>Gets paid 7 or 8 figure for basic ass roles & guarantees generational wealth>Meanwhile a 4cuck loser is working for minimum wage & living with his parent
>>221036985You're really stupid.
>>221034709I wonder how many young actors and actresses can even fully read scripts and how many have people hired to read for them. Illiteracy in schools seems to be a growing epidemic so it seems to reason that some you f people in hollywood have gotten there despite literally being unable to read
>>221037499He's queerer than a three dollar bill, she's a textbook beard for him.
>>221037554At least the 4cuck loser can still look his parents in the eyes
No film has the depth of Gulliver’s Travels, Imajica, Hyperion, Stoner or Watership Down.pure bookkino (god I am so based))))) :))
>>221037688The 4cuck literally has secured his generations future for the minimum of 1 generation & they nwon't eve give two shits about some ass film that is already forgotten nevermind in a couple of years. Meanwhile the other one can't even secure a gf to have kids
>>221036985>Yes, booktok shit for filling out backdrops on their tiktok videos.Which they also read. >Because 2 out of 3 of those are the equivalent of the smut of a hundred years agoWhat a depressingly stupid thing to say. You've either never read them or you're genuinely a soulless monster who despises Western culture. The latter is probably true given how much you seethe like a petulant bitch over women being better readers than you.>If you go over the people who actually make money off writing it's overwhelmingly men.Because women read books by men. My argument is about women as consumers. Your argument about men as producers doesn't challenge what I'm saying at all. It's an irrelevant aside because you have this cornered chud mindset where you're looking to score points instead of engaging with any semblance of good faith. Hence you ranting about Emily Wilston's translation quality when you know full well I only mentioned her to show that women have taken an interest in the classics. >they're going to show off on booktokYou're a moron. Of course women who read want to discuss what they've read. Had you read more than 2 and a half books in a year you might like to do the same.
>>221037818>Which they also read.The vast majority of them do not, no, they're just influencers with a vibe selling products.Those who do read smut. They usually call it "spicy" which is code for actual porn.>You've either never read themSo I take it you haven't either. The Bronte's are literally the basis for the meme about tall dark and handsome drama bs and Austen isn't much better. Woolf is the only one who actually had something to say, too bad it's dreary to listen to a bourgeoise woman complain about her family In a Room of One's Own in hindsight unless you're a woman with daddy issues. (or a particularly charitable man who thinks there's a point to feminism, all the modern counterpoints aside) >despises Western culture. You wouldn't know western culture if it caved your face in.>My argument is about women as consumers.And it's largely wrong regardless. Most women do not read books by men outside of the 'literary' crowd which is miniscule when it comes to actual sales. The fantasy ones have stats and it's overwhelmingly men reading their shit.You realize there are utterly shit sf authors, ones I wouldn't even deign to mention usually for how shit they are, lwho are multi-millionaires from self-published sales solely by targeting men. >cornered chudAh there it is. The parasite outs itself.>show that women have taken an interest in the classics.It's so terrible it's not even worth considering as reading the classics. She thinks an appropriate translation of Hector's immortal horses amounts to "Blondie" and "Sparkle". She isn't even the first retarded woman to mistranslate it that would be Caroline Alexander.(who likened Achilles to Muhammad Ali's vietnam draft refusal)>Of course women who read want to discuss what they've read. In other words performative shit. Book clubs are for non-readers, same way that a uni movie club is for retards who don't watch movies. Even the structure is about slowing down for the lowest common denominator.
>>221034848I read it. Nothing special.
>>221038283>She thinks an appropriate translation of Hector's immortal horses amounts to "Blondie" and "Sparkle".Odyssey's worse she inserts claims of rape where the original has none and defends it by saying modern people must be able to interpret it from our pov.
>>221038490>modern people must be able to interpret it from our pov.I know when I studied the classics our professor told us explicitly the opposite. "these aren't modern people, don't expect them to behave like modern people" was what I got beat in the head with.
>>221036577Harvey beat you.
>>221034709Reading books is a pseud medium. Hypertext completely superseded linear text.
>>221034709Books are generally better, going more in-depth in narrative with the ability to spend more time building scenes and characters (interally and externally), but movies can do things in a visual sense given the medium that gives you a totally different experience, however it requires a person and crew of great creative potential to actually achieve it.Also, why doesn't she wear bras?
>>221035730she walks like an 80y old asian man
>>221035730Because it'd make her mosquito bites look even smaller. No idea why she's the "it" girl. Most astroturfed bullshit I've ever seen. Not hot, no sexuality, no tits, can't act.
>>221034709Going to be deadass with you bros, I find Zendaya very attractive and I would like to have sex with her.
>>221036577Think she has ever had a BWC in her?
>>221041380damn, she's just like me
test
>>221035730because her tits are imaginary
>>221034709Is there a reason she chose the most shit looking editions of each book?
>>221044066probably whatever was on the shelf at the bookstore she went to.
>>221035730I've fucked femboys with bigger better tits.
>>221034709I like her. She seems pretty cool when she’s not acting.
>>221034848I've already read it.I've even read the manga version by Go Nagai, which was surprisingly accurate
>>221034709SAD NEWS: Joker was raped in the pooper.
>>221034797She looks like shit
>>221034709OF?
>>221034709>"ehy look, two ruined adaptations!"Said the uggo
>>221036092>Because women are the only ones who buy books anymore.Because there is nothing new to buy if you are a man, it's all shit aimed at women
>>221036785>Wuthering Heights.The same ones that think Heathcliff is not white kek?
>>221036178tbf it's probably the only version dumbed down enough for her reading level. Honestly when actors have to adapt classics they should just be handed out the kiddie version of the book, it's not like they are gonna understand the nuance and historical setting of the original work anyway
>>221036493bullshitIt's just that stuff written by woman is mostly unreadable.Muh self insert spending all the book spinning wheels is something that no man will ever consider engaging
>>221034709Do black people read ancient literature and envision the entire cast as africans?
>>221045479>Do black people read
>>221034797why are you geh?
>>221037716>bookkinoNot to piss on your kino status, but that's how in Italy we call a blowjob (slang, written differently but pronounced like that)
>>221038582>"these aren't modern people, don't expect them to behave like modern people" was what I got beat in the head with.It was common sense just few years ago
>>221045461>Everyone on the cover is brown
>>221035204>Watch "Eternity and a Day"Oh let's what's it about>Alexandros, a middle-aged writer, leaves his seaside apartment in Holy cringe. Another euroslop about a writers boring ass life. Kys you pretentious faggot.
>>221034709I would very much like to suck those pokies.
>>221045638fuck, you're so cool anon, damn!
>>221034763>>221034848always funny when people try to bring up these comparisons to Dante, Shakespeare, or Chaucer, but it's clear that they've never actually read ANY of it. They just know it's considered highbrow for some reason. SImilar to people who bring up Bach, Mozart, or Tchaikovsky (as if they even write the same genre of music), despite not knowing any of there work. But violins = classical, right? (hint: only one of those composers actually wrote clasical music).
>>221035730because bras are uncomfortable and when you have small tits, you can get away without wearing one.
>>221046120>doesn't know the difference between the era of classical and classical music.I bet you can't tell me the difference between a sonata and sonata form in your own words either, cuntfuck.
>>221046152Sonata - solo instrument, multiple movementsSonata form - A B A'
>>221046180Lol no.3 or 4 movement suite, typically fast-slow-scherzo-fast, or fast-scherzo-slow-fast, A B A' can be many forms.
>>221034709If Shakespeare were alive now he would be making flicks
