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Continued from >>2601919

Where were you when the gayest couple was retroactively ruined forever?

Ongoing manga:
New releases: http://michinoakio.blogspot.com/
Read Saki here: https://mangadex.org/manga/160/saki
Download Saki 0-60 here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/kk870ig01a85tx3/Saki_Chapter_0-60_%5Bnull%5D.rar
Download Saki 61-104 here: https://mega.nz/#!FiQmAAiB!cnbiS5NaLqD4a1ADx4HIkWsw7vo2NXv6k_kQA7zipy8
Download/read Saki 105-current here: http://dynasty-scans.com/series/saki
Download/read Saki Achiga-hen here: http://dynasty-scans.com/series/saki_achiga_hen_episode_of_side_a
Download/read Saki Biyori here: http://dynasty-scans.com/series/saki_biyori_bg
Download/read Saki Shinohayu here: http://dynasty-scans.com/series/saki_shinohayu
Download/read Toki (or don't) here: http://dynasty-scans.com/series/toki
Yen Press Saki: the usual place

Completed anime:
Download Saki (season 1) here: https://nyaa.si/view/320245
Download Saki Achiga-hen here: https://nyaa.si/view/568054
Download Saki: Zenkoku Hen (season 2) here: https://nyaa.si/view/745276
Saki Biyori OVA here: https://nyaa.si/view/782445
Saki Achiga OVA - Kuro's birthday here: https://nyaa.si/view/958881

Saki - The Memories Of Summer:
It's a fully translated Chinese doujin VN with Teru as protagonist. Highlights include out of character behaviour, incest and being able to NTR Ryuuka.
You can download it here: https://truend.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/saki-doujin-game-the-memories-of-summer/

How to be a lesbian:
https://pastebin.com/Syxp8m1e
https://www.mediafire.com/view/9aji814i8mbj5iw/101_sex_lesbian_sex_positions.pdf
https://www.mediafire.com/download/q95p8pzaifhndln/how_to_become_good_at_mahjong.mp3
https://www.mediafire.com/download/4doks9cztham47k/Mahjong+Kombat.swf

News:
http://www.saki-anime.com
https://saki.wikia.com/wiki/Saki_Wiki
http://www.sciasta.com/ritz/
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And now for some actual yuri to get the thread going.
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>>2765533
And that should be enough for now.
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>>2765545
Rude.
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>>2765547
What was the point?
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>>2765533
What?
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>>2765642
A fucking hamster, that's what.
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>>2765646
the problem is that you completely lost the focus of the Hamster and that besides, it's not a Hamster, it's another mouse that ignored the name, but it's bigger

It is the relation of loss of something important and that affects Ryuuka, she as a child looks like someone too complacent with her mother and that takes a little away from being a good girl. The loss of a pet, especially at such an early age, is something important and can not be solved with the "buy another" nonsense.

When Toki almost dies, you can see how affected Ryuuka is by that, I prefer it to be a dead pet and not some cheap nonsense just to generate drama.

Are we forgetting that heterohayu has a villain?
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>>2765659
>heterohayu
Haven't been keeping up. What's this about?
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>>2765675
that is the affectionate nickname for the manga of Shinohayu, I honestly got bored halfway and I have not asked to be up to date, but the last thing I remember is that there is a final boss, there is not much Yuri and this is still Saki.
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>>2765681
But why hetero is what I'm asking. I only read the first couple of chapters.
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>>2765697
Some are disappointed because yuri is not the main focus.
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>>2765721
Sheesh, that's no reason to call it het.
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>>2765728
I know, but we're on 4chan so this kind of attitude is not unexpected.
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>>2765659
It's not about this particular super deep and meaningful loss, it's about what happens after.
Namely that Ryuuka doesn't give a fuck about Toki and only befriends her because she acts like a hamster. And then Ryuuka keeps projecting hamster's behavior on Toki, like saying that Toki was always lazy while thinking of her hamster. And disdainfully calling her a look alike when there are slight differences in her behavior from her hamster. And she only gives Toki lap pillows because she gave them to her hamster. And spoils Toki because she spoiled her hamster. And acts overprotective so that she doesn't repeat the hamster's fate. And Ryuuka being affected by Toki's death is not about Toki, it's about "oh god not this shit again woe is me". Their relationship in Achiga is entirely invalidated now.
>b-but it's not a hamster
Guinea pig, same shit.
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>>2765728
I did not want to mention it, but if there is a reason, it is because of the relationship between MC and her uncle, which has been interpreted romantically by some people, in the same way as the main Yuri relationships in the other Saki series.


230/5000
Many other things have also been misinterpreted in favor of het and the Yuri has not been really prominent, but there is a certain Shiptease, but it is not so strong when one remembers who Hayarin's official partner is.

>>2765756
It really does not do it, the pet does not take away any value from the relationship, it only shows where Ryuuka's paranoia comes from, it would be the same with a sister or a father, but being a pet is less cliche.
It also helps to understand Ryuuka's somewhat childish behavior, even in the main line.

>Guinea pig, same shit.
It is not, in my country there are even more pet mice, including a stupidly large and friendly.
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>>2765768
Yeah, no, if your girlfriend kept projecting her old girlfriend's everything on you while disregarding your own personality, you probably won't be saying that it does not take away any value from your relationship. Unless it's your fetish or something.
This here situation isn't that different, except worse, since Ryuuka chooses Toki as replacement for a rodent rather than an actual sapient person. Pretty telling how much value she assigns to her.
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Toki will give a pep talk to Ryuuka to make her stop the good girl drama. I honestly don't see the problem with this plotline.
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>>2765772
It's really different, although only a horrible person does that. Really does not put Toki and mouse at the same level, it is simply used as a way that Ryuuka will not be given to all people, even though he is someone friendly and only gives his heart to someone really special, which Toki achieved by itself and not because it is the replacement of a pet.

Frankly I expected something more cliche on the necklace, but it is not a bad alternative.
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>>2765780
Because there is nothing wrong, personally I'm glad it was a pet and not a death father as some thought, or it would really be stupid.
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>>2765768
>it is because of the relationship between MC and her uncle, which has been interpreted romantically by some people
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>>2765785
frankly I do not know who to blame for that, it's as if the two could not have a normal relationship father and daughter, the guy has his own romantic interest (man)
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>>2765783
>someone really special, which Toki achieved by itself and not because it is the replacement of a pet.
So that's why Ryuuka just keeps comparing her to her pet in her head? How she's just as lazy as her hamster, and how she likes hot baths unlike her hamster, etc. Oh, and she also lashes out at Toki when she tried to pick up the pendant Ryuuka dropped. Heavens forbid person she cares so much about touches the hamster pendant with her filthy hands that mean so much to her.
>only a horrible person does that
that's the idea
>>2765780
And Toki will forever remain a replacement goldfish. How wonderful. No wonder Toki turned from cheerful energetic girl to a depressed suicidal stoic in high school.
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>>2765790
The story isn't finished and you project too much. From 10 pics you posted you managed to post 4.5 crack pairings I guess this explain how you interpret the interactions.
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>>2765790
>Heavens forbid person she cares so much about touches the hamster pendant with her filthy hands that mean so much to her.

Do you know the reason for the flashback that is happening in the manga, right?

>And Toki will forever remain a replacement goldfish. How wonderful. No wonder Toki turned from cheerful energetic girl to a depressed suicidal stoic in high school.

Toki becomes cynical and perverted, her suicide attempt was to lower Teru from her pedestal and her behavior are excuses to sleep on Ryuuka's thighs, that part is to win to win in the relationship.

Wait to see the consequences of the hamster's ark, to see how her relationship continues to evolve, which looks pretty good today.
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>>2765798
Oh, I'm so sorry my choice of pics insulted your artistic sensibilities. I forgot that only conventional pairings are allowed here and everything else is verboten. We should all just reuse the same 2 images of the same pairings every thread so that it doesn't upset people with refined taste like you.
And projecting, really? Your headcanon vanilla interpretations are very sweet, but did you miss the pic related? Hamster is dead, friend tells her to get a new one. And guess who Ryuuka befriends next? Toki is bewildered in the first chapter why Ryuuka would approach her all of a sudden, if you also forgot. But of course this has nothing to with a hamster. Ryuuka is a good girl who would never do something like this. Sure, she's a manipulative girl pretending to be someone she is not in front of everyone, but that's no big deal, she's a good girl.
>>2765803
Yes, this reason is "it's been 2 years of not explaining anything, time to get the plot moving".
>how her relationship continues to evolve
Certainly, it will look all sweet and nice on the surface, but it's still psychological abuse and manipulation in the end. You may bury your head in the sand and accuse others of projecting, but at the end of the day, if something looks like a hamster and acts like a hamster, it's probably a hamster. Not that you would admit it, but hey, enjoy Ryuuka's sweet lies, I guess.
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>>2765809
That line of getting another is shit and as I said, it's basically the worst way to treat anything, someone who has an emotional connection for a pet, will always feel the pain to remember it, go out and get another one, it's all shit.

more than Toki is a hamster, is that now Toki is the one that has the strong emotional connection with Ryuuka, you can see them as a replacement and could be a replacement, but that is not an aspect that we can decide, that is something of their characters and how history handles it.

Their relationship is far from superficial, as Manga and Anime have already shown in various ways.
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>>2765917
Imagine being this stupid.
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>>2765917
That is the reason why people with mental problems can not use the internet.
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>>2765955
Wouldn't agree with that since you're using it.
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>>2765957
Keep trying, maybe next time you'll get it.
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Oh god, the Seriyamafags are at each others throats. This is so hilarious/ This is justice for them beating Shindouji in the the 5th place match.
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OP is a yuri bully, doesn't know how loyal a dog can be or that you can actually talk with cats. Losing a furball is a pretty big deal, especially for children. And I bet that hamster didn't make Ryuuka feel hot and bothered. /u/ should paranoid about the hamster being female.
>>2765785
They are jokes about how Richardson is a 30 yo unmarried guy. Shino already promised the nationals to Kana and sooner or later that will bloom into something else.
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>>2765843
>>2766241
At least if it would've been a cat or a dog or a bird, Toki would be a replacement for something with a semblance of intelligence, making the situation slightly less terrible. This, on the other hand, is a dime a dozen furball Ryuumom bought on a whim. Emotional connections are all nice and well but when hamster gets replaced with a human, this human probably doesn't mean much to you emotionally. Since, despite being a superior creature, this human is only capable of generating the same amount of emotions in you that a bloody hamster did.
>Toki is the one that has the strong emotional connection with Ryuuka
Except she doesn't. It's still your precious emotional connection between Ryuuka and a hamster, only hamster is Toki now. It Ryuuka cared about Toki more, she wouldn't be comparing Toki to her hamster over and over again
>Their relationship is far from superficial
Really now? Do you think Ryuuka would've even noticed Toki if her hamster hadn't died and she didn't go looking for a replacement? It could've been anyone with sufficient superficial resemblance in behavior to that particular rodent. And Toki won the grand prize. Lucky her.
>Manga and Anime have already shown in various ways
In Achiga it wasn't superficial, of course. Now that we know the motivation for it though, it retroactively is.
>hamster didn't make Ryuuka feel hot and bothered
Sure, but it's the same problem. All Ryuuka's feelings towards Toki in general still come from her emotional connection to hamster first and Toki being an extension of it second. Nothing genuine in it.
>>2766095
Subara stealing Himeko from Mairu doesn't make their "love" that much better, you know.
>>2765917
t. yuriproject
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>>2766275
You're just looking for a very big and forced excuse just to justify your dissatisfaction, nothing you say or complain about, will change what was already established.

>>2766241
>Losing a furball is a pretty big deal, especially for children.
Why is it so difficult to understand this?
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>>2766393
Except it's (You) who's using some weird reverse justifications for your point of view when presented with a logical chain clearly depicted in the manga.

Ryuuka is sad -> Ryuuka gets a hamster -> muh emotional connection -> Press S to spit on the grave -> Ryuuka is sad -> Friend tells her to get a new one -> Enter Toki who could've really been anyone fitting the description and who is only befriended as a replacement

And this logical chain is followed by Ryuuka constantly projecting her hamster on Toki like in pic related.
Which in turn is followed by Ryuuka's actions and attitude towards Toki, like her overprotectiveness, spoiling her and giving her lap pillows, coincidentally being the same things she did with her fucking hamster.
Which leads one to a natural conclusion that their relationship is built on lies and is therefore fake and meaningless.
Why is it so difficult to understand this?
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>>2766398
>Why is it so difficult to understand this?
because you are exaggerating everything in a stupid and paranoid way.

The issue has not yet been fully treated in the manga, only the reason for the necklace has been established, but it is still necessary to see how everything develops, this is Toki's Manga anyway.

At the moment the issue has not been treated in a stupid way and Ryuuka acts in a silly way, not only with Toki but with others, we have to wait for how she overcomes that behavior that has already been seen by other people.

At least wait for how things end, but as Achiga was seen on, both are wonderful and there is nothing wrong with their relationship.

I had a hamster and I will always love that mouse and its randomly random attitude.
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>>2766441
>I had a hamster
You should've said this in the very beginning. Bias would certainly explain why you refuse to see reason. Oh well, carry on.
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>>2766491
I have had other pets, the hamster was that the time remained alive.

I see nothing wrong from the narrative and plot sense, the type of animal would not have changed anything, the real problem is Ryuuka's super-complacent attitude.
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Reminder that Mako is Hisa's true love.
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What the fuck does a dead hamster have to do with Ryuuka and Toki's relationship? Are you conveniently forgetting how close they were in Achiga?
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>>2769137
Random whore she will eventually toss aside.
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>>2769179
It is a bit, hell now a lot more disappointing that Ritz ordered Mekimeki to make a Toki story where Toki x Ryuuka connection is degraded to a role of a dead pet and his owner, than it being soemthing genuine of it's own.
Basically Ryuuka being so overprotective about weak ill Toki was explained now that it came from the moment she lost her hamster and Toki replaced it so Ryuuka could now take care of her instead.
It's really shitty writing from yuri perspective, but then after awful Shinohayu and how less gay main story became, I'm not holding my breath to anything Saki related anymore.
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>>2769221
Not really, the story makes it clear as day that Toki is just a replacement pet and has nothing to do with an actual human relationship
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>>2769301
0/10. See me after class.
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It has been 1 or 2 years since I last posted in a saki thread. Have they already started with the finals? Or is it still 3rd place match?
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>>2769384
The finals started a few months ago.
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>>2769337
Wow, your smug faces and lack of arguments are so convincing. How can "Toki is just a replacement goldfish who Ryuuka will never truly love" faction even compete with your disputing skills.
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>>2769456
it also refutes that Achiga's LA is correct.

>>2769552
you just have a serious problem of compression, you can not even understand what is really happening and assume everything wrongly and pretentiously.
like the gridman thread
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>>2769726
>compression
And no, inventing headcanon explanations that support your OTP despite all the plentiful evidence to the contrary is what's wrong and pretentious, not the acceptance of the cold, bitter truth.
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>>2769730
And what you say does not make any sense, did a hamster kill your family or what?
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>>2769736
Maybe you should actually read the Toki's spin-off then, rather than talk about things you have no idea about. They say everything tends to make more sense if you're actually familiar with the subject at hand.
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>>2769742
I'm reading them and I understand what's happening, you're the one who denies anything other than your interpretation as a good gridfag [/ spoiler]
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>>2769746
Well then, if you're reading them, maybe you should stop posting until after you've finished reading them? 1 chapter out of 27 is hardly enough to understand the truth, especially when you're blinded by the bias.
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>>2769748
It stops being an idiot, it's not fun, I've been up to date with all the manga, the only one I've stopped reading is heterohayu and I could not finish Biyori.
What good is it that you read it, if the information passes over your head?
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>>2769752
>What good is it that you read it, if the information passes over your head?
Do you realize how ironic it is that you ask this question?
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>>2769757
I'm not the only one who says that your reading comprehension is bad.
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>>2769766
>Most people rejected Her message. They hated Her because She told them the truth.
>Gal. 4:16
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>this argument again
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>>2769784
Mods allow them? I mean /u/ includes shipping, that's why /u/ was pulled from other placein 4chan but apparently this one person can't handle that.

>>2769776
>put a tiny label of truth on a shit
>throw it at people
>xD its the truth
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>>2773162
Or maybe it's just you being dumb and losing your shit over a tiny bit of character backstory.
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>>2773236
Why does this upsets you so much? Do you really think Ryuuka literally sees Toki as a replacement for her hamster? You might be lacking in reading comprehension.
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>>2773269
I'll add that even if Ryuuka see Toki as a hamster, it's rare to read a manga without any character devlopement. All this hamster-thing explains why Ryuuka choose to approch Toki, nothing more.
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>>2773269
I not only think that way, manga supports this. Evidence present in the manga is in the posts above, while your evidence has so far been only "NO YOU'RE WRONG". And really, your willful ignorance of the facts hardly lets you call someone out on their supposed lack of reading comprehension.
>>2773295
Indeed. It would be nice to have some character development later. That is, if Ryuuka didn't call Toki "a look alike" in the very same chapter she decided to tell her about her hamster. Meaning Toki is still less relevant than the hamster. And will remain so even in Achiga since Ryuuka's behavior (oversensitiveness, lap pillows and generally spoiling her) towards Toki is exactly the same as her attitude towards her hamster.
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>>2773183
Where were we?
https://archiveofsins.com/u/thread/2765533/#2773162
https://archiveofsins.com/u/thread/2765533/#2773236
Right, yuri pics mysteriously disappearing.
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>>2773907
>I can shitpost and ban evade if I post a yuri pic
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>>2773971
No, shitposting is ignoring the obvious truth and running away to mommy so that she can smack someone who's making sense in the face even though it's your fault.
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So, mod don't ban you person for this obvious trolling? Got someone backing you up?
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Because that one guy in Madoka thread keeps getting banned. Is this the same person?
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>>2774000
>obvious trolling
Have you tried reading the manga before voicing your incorrect opinion?
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>>2774022
If you really read, because you do not understand anything?
It's funny how you can not understand the value of a pet, especially for a small child and the fact that the death of that pet is more related to Ryuuka's bad relationship with her mother.
Is that narrative too complicated for you?
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>>2774067
Value of a pet for a child with a troubled family history is understandable. Value of the actual person being treated as said pet's replacement forever without any other feelings involved and with no consideration for said person's own personality seems a bit too hard for you to grasp though.
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>>2774069
not only are you an idiot and that part has not even been treated yet, Toki is the one who has to decide and how the relationship is quite good today, so nothing bad happened.

The death of the mouse exists to generate the current conflict and it is funny to ignore who was the original owner of the necklace and that Ryuuka's mother also has problems and Ryuuka's biggest problem, which still continues, is her excessive complacency to others.

It's like a movie that deals with many subjects in an interesting way and your biggest complaint is that you do not like the protagonist's clothes.
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>>2774073
Of course it has not been treated yet, but we clearly see the beginning, where Toki is befriended as a hamster replacement in the spin-off, and the ending in Achiga, where Toki is treated just like the hamster was in the very beginning. So it did not really change to be "quite good", aside from looking like this on the surface. And just because hamster's death was used for this drama, doesn't mean that it doesn't also invalidate their relationship, accidentally or not.
You're also making a wrong movie analogy. It's more like creating a fun and interesting setting while leaving a few things unexplained as a background mysteries. Before making some cash-grabbing prequels later and explaining everything with "gal midichlorians lmao".
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>>2774088
the problem is that your complaints do not make sense, you just assume very hard things that have not happened, Ryuuka's mother killed the hamster and now their relationship starts to fracture due to lack of confidence, that is the subject here and not your delusions .
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>>2774338
Yes-yes, you've made it perfectly clear many times already that you're unable to see things beyond the their surface level. And on that surface level, it is about what you said. But what really matters is what that means for Ryuuka and Toki's relationship. And it means nothing good because Toki on her own means nothing to Ryuuka now aside from the hamster she represents to her.
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>>2774344
That's just your own stupid interpretation. You're straight-up seeing things that are not there and have deluded yourself into think there's more to it than the "surface level".
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>>2774349
For someone who is not willing to give her OTP a critical look-over when the new facts appear, be it because of the excessive emotional attachment or having a hamster during her childhood, there is nothing but the surface level indeed. Someone having the capacity for unbiased thinking can see a bit more than that.
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>>2774355
No, you're just stupid and that's the problem here.
The manga exposed a theme and is developing it and it is the relationship between Ryuuka and her mother, which is an important part of Ryuuka's plot and you simply ignore that element because you do not like a hamster.

I'm sure Toki will act more mature than you do with the revelation.
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>>2774358
>STUUUUUUUUUUUPID
>shut up, you IMMATURE kid, unlike me, an ADULT
You do realize that these are things an actual kid would say when confronted by a logical argument, don't you?
Anyway, of course Toki would accept Ryuuka despite all this and they will live happily ever after not really. After all, she's a kind girl with self-esteem issues who never had friends before Ryuuka, making her a prime candidate for her emotional manipulation and psychological mistreatment. Love martyrdom in an abusive relationship and all that. Which ties in nicely with the change in Toki's demeanor from cheerful energetic girl to a suicidal depressed stoic. Guess Wixoss left a mark on MekiMeki.
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>>2774367
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>>2774022 >>2774367
>no one reply to him
>respond
Imagine being this self-conscious of his trolling. That's just sad
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>>2765659
>>2774358
12 days and you still feed him. I don't pity you if you keep hurting yourself but it is unslightly. Go make a Saki general in 8ch if you want to ban him. 12 days is a lot time to learn.

>>2774367
And you are avoiding the other person's at the same time. Hypocryte.
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Okay, Senriyamafags arguing 24/7 has stopped being funny. Can you lot stop already. All of you just go back to agreeing Toki can make Ryuuka her bitch whenever she feels like.
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>>2774625
I don't think that guy autism will let him stop, he probably wants to join the a/u/tist club with the big names.
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Yup, yuri pics must be deleted on sight.
https://archiveofsins.com/u/thread/2765533/#2774853
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>>2774537
>>2774625
>>2774655
I'm going to give up, the arguments have no effect, the problem will be when he starts using his mental diarrhea to misinform the naive little ones.
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>>2774975
>the arguments have no effect
That's my line. Isn't it sad when "mental diarrhea" is better structured and makes more sense that your supposed "arguments"? "Arguments" that happen to be nothing but autistic screeching that I am wrong and hamsters' lives matter, if that.
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>>2765533
>a fucking hamster




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>>2775909
Stop.
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>>2775909
>awesome magic power, but no match for the plot armor
>prominent character, but still the secondary one
>champion, but of Loser-hen
>important to the girlfriend, but only as a hamster replacement
>half-dead at any given time
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>>2775920
That means maturing, besides having the wrong animal, not all rodents are the same, they have different types of care and you can not put one of those in a hamster ball.

In another topic, it is really strange how AkoShizu was handled as a couple, has more support in official material than in the Anime, even LA expands its relationship and Ako's actress got too much into her role during the breaks. I do not know if it was all the fault of Ritz or Igarashi.
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>>2776156
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>>2776152
Of course, o the mature one. Only the mature people like you can maturely ship the mature ships that have been proven to be, at best, unhealthy.
And the rodent particular classification means nothing when a human being is used as their replacement. Either way, said human on their own means nothing beyond their likeness to the rodent in question.
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>>2776157
godamed Ryuuka!!
Toki won the lottery.
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>>2776161
What kind of lottery would have a "girlfriend that only wants you as a replacement goldfish and will never ever love for who you are" grand prize?
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>>2776160
Why do you hate animals so much, Hikari Konohana, are you?
Stay away from Night of the Lepus, you can not stand that movie.
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>>2776164
It's not about the animals, it's about love. And it ain't no love when a human is used as a substitute for an soulless, barely sapient, creature.
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>>2776165
How do you know the hamster didn't have human intelligence and was able to speak?
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>>2776163
self hatred lottery
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>>2776168
By actually reading the manga before engaging in an argument. You should try it sometimes.
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>>2776201
See? They can understand each other.
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>>2776217
Pet instinctively responding to owner's voice in anticipation of food =/= understanding.
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>>2776220
Ryuuka has Dr Dolittle powers.
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>>2776223
She wishes.
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>>2776223
This power seems useless in a mahjong match.
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>>2776393
Perfect match for Ryuuka then.
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>>2776798
Rude!
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>>2776803
Useless dragon, only good for sex appeal.
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>>2776871
she is good at everything she does, having useless powers balances things a little.
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>>2776873
If she's so good at everything, then why didn't she beat monkey and supernova with her pure mahjong skills?
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>>2776875
I said good, not perfect, besides Awai is Teru's team, she can not lose until her fight with Saki, Monkey on the other side at that time was MC and she used her powers of protagonists to win.

That's why she won the fifth place against 2 strong teams and Uzusan.
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>>2776873
I thought that was saliva at first.
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>>2776880
>she won
3rd most useful player out of 5. With only the strongest first year and the theoretical mahjong scientist being worse.
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>>2776891
3rd most useful player out of 5. With only the strongest first year and the theoretical mahjong scientist being worse.
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>>2776891
technically speaking, the fifth player can ruin the effort of others, as Kana being humiliated by Koromo.
Speaking of Koromo, does anyone else think that Nelly seems a mix between Awai and Koromo.

sorry, I answered wrong.
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>2776220
>2776201
>abusing argument to trying to shut people from talking instead of doing anything contributive
Any specific reason this scientologist-wannabe post in saki of all thread?
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>>2777236
Mental illness.
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>>2777236
>>2777240
Any specific reason you prefer to continue with your passive-aggressive autistic screeching instead of proving me wrong? If I'm so wrong and you're so right, it should've taken you all of 5 posts to prove me wrong. Oh, that's right, it's because I am not wrong and you are not right.
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>>2776163 >>2774992 >>2766398
Not in manga. you are merely forcing your interpretation and claiming it as fact.

You nice people have been feeding him for 2 weeks but I figure this much in 3 days.
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>>2777381
>quotes the post that has a page from the manga and the logical chain of events that have actually transpired in the manga
>not in manga
You are merely forcing your denial and claiming it as fact.
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>>2777381
although it's funny that he thinks he's just a person against him, when several people tell him the same argument and he just does not accept it.
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>>2777457
The quantity of you people means little when you don't even have this "argument" of yours beyond the "you're wrong because we say so".
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>>2777457
Ironically funny that you think their side is also just one person.
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>>2777509
Same posting style and exact arguments every time. Also it's hard to believe more than one person could be so dense about this particular subject.
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>>2777514
It's hard to believe more than one person can be in such a state of denial over your precious otp being ultimately fake, yet here we are.
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>>2777516
Why do you hate TokixRyuuka so much?
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>>2777519
It's not hate. The problem here is that prequel manga went way of the way to show just how meaningless this relationship turns out to be in the end, with Toki being a replacement hamster and all, yet imoutos here just won't accept it for some reason.
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>>2777520
That's just your interpretation. Other people may have different interpretations.
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>>2777525
That's the "interpretation" manga subscribes to, so other interpretations are irrelevant.
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>>2777527
Death of the Author.
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>>2777546
And also death of all other readers who don't agree with you.
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>>2777546
>>2777565
Doesn't matter when you look at things objectively (if you were capable of it) and see that all the depicted events still neatly fall into a pattern terminating in Ryuuka not really loving Toki.
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>>2777568
It's impossible to look at things objectively. Some subjective bias is always gonna show up.
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>>2777580
You should try it before disregarding it off-handedly.
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>>2777568
>Ryuuka not really loving Toki.
No, you're wrong. She definitely loves her like any caring owner would love their pet.
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>>2777582
Try what?
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>>2777586
That much is true. But it's not exactly real eternal One True Love™.
>>2777587
Being objective.
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Chapter 198 is out.
I'm so hyped, Teru has another power she never showned before.
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>>2777590
>Being objective.
Already told you it's impossible. It's not in human nature to be objective.
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>>2777594
Ancient humans would've thought lots of things that are possible today are not in human nature. Yet it didn't stop them from trying and making them possible.
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>>2777597
>lots of things that are possible today are not in human nature.
Like what?
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>>2777601
Like flying. And living up to 100 years. And not believing in higher powers. And people dating other people because they resemble their dead hamsters. You know, weird things for an ancient human.
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>>2777602
None of those have anything to do with the core nature of the human mind. As long as people have feelings and individuality,, biases will exist and true objectivity will be unattainable.
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>>2765675
The word Heterohayu has been around since they first few chapters of Shinohayu. It was mostly caused by Yuriproject refusing to translate it, and also Richardson's prominence in the early chapters.

After 62 chapters, however, it's extremely outdated. While the progress has been slow and the developments tame, partly due to the young age of the characters, several clear pairings have formed.

>Rena's admiration and physical attraction to Shino
>Kanna and Kyouka's deep friendship
>Naoko and Chiyoko going from a chance meeting to spending Christmas together and seemingly even enrolling in the same school. An omake shows they're together even as adults
>Yuzu and Chihiro's love
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>>2777608
>An omake shows they're together even as adults
With Chiyoko laying around naked in bed even.
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>>2777603
Yes-yes, just give up before even trying since "that's impossible". If everyone was like you, we'd still be living in caves.
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>>2778024
We still live in caves, it's just that the caves have no walls or ceiling now.
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>>2778024
What the fuck is this image.
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>>2778056
So deep.
>>2778059
Mairu raising her wife's daughters, obviously.
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>>2777608
Can we invent another nickname? Apparently this Manga has a villain and I think we can make fun of that.

>>2777591
yay?

Ryuuka loves Toki and the other way around, no matter how much shit you want to invent, the death of the pet is a means to generate conflict and even objects have been used for similar things, the flashback is about the trust problems between mother and daughter and that is an important part of Ryuuka's character, that in the mini-ova it is already clear that she has money.
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>>2779115
The "villain" in question is Lotta Niemann, who was actually mentioned in chapter 57 of the main manga. She was the world mahjong champion at some point, and apparently brainwashed the MC's mom to being her servant or something. She's only appeared in one chapter and the main characters don't know about her at all; they're busy playing mahjong and hanging out.
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>>2779121
missed opportunity, but for that "revelation" it feels silly even for Saki's standards, the mystery of Saki's mother feels more interesting, especially knowing that Saki and Teru are not "pure" Japanese or something, I do not know what to call it.
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>>2779115
Yes, you already said all this before and it's still no less naive than it was. Trust problems and family issues aside, what's really important here is what it means for Toki and Ryuuka's relationship - namely, that the relationship serves no purpose beyond Ryuuka's selfish replacement desires. At least you admit now that pet isn't better than an object so maybe you're actually beginning to accept that Toki is not important to Ryuuka at all as a person separate from her hamster.
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Igarashi says Happy New Year!
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>>2784912
Improved version here:
>>2774069
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I understand that it's probably pointless at this juncture to try and prove you the obvious, but how more blatantly do you want the manga to tell you that Toki means nothing to Ryuuka aside from being the hamster's replacement?
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>>2789123
I believe people's argument is that in the end Ryuuka has now stronger feelings for Toki than she had for the hamster back then, but honestly?
We'll never know, Ritz will never go through with them anyway.
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>>2789123
That all depends on what's revealed to be in Ryuuka's amulet when Toki opens it. If it's sunflower seeds, I'll take my hat medium rare, but more than likely it now contains the thing that is most important to her.
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>>2789123
Dumb hamsterposter.
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>>2789145
Feel free to keep denying everything.
And yet Toki even started playing mahjong only because of the hamster too. Literally everything in her future life was caused by Ryuuka projecting a fucking hamster on her. Unbelievable.
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>>2789139
Didn't Ryuuka almost rip Toki in half after she tried to pick up her pendant in the pool's chapter? "This is the only thing I can't let you touch" or something? The thing that is most important to her is probably not related to Toki then.
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A FUCKING HAMSTER
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>>2789160
Yeah I wonder if now Ritz would also degay the SM key combo if they would ever get their spin-off too.
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>>2789200
Yup.
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Okay, let's get this over with.
Neuroi stood for destruction and death.
The pendant represents the memory of the dead hamster. In other words, a fragment.
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>>2791630
So what you're saying is the reason panties don't exist in the Sakiverse is because the Strike Witches stole them all as a neccessary component for defeating the Neuroi, who were apprently dead hamsters this entire time?
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>>2791653
That's one world line, sure. If you'd have read previous threads, you'd know what I was talking about.
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>>2791653
Saki and Strike Witches share the same timeline.

After the neuroi's eventual defeat, the Witches soon found themselves ostracized by all the anti-war protest. The symbol of the witches, their pants, fell out of favor and wearing no pants became the style. Witches still had to find something they could do with their power but they couldn't get caught, new politicians had enacted anti-witch witch laws around the globe. They turned to Mahjong because the game is so awful no one will be able to see them use their magic in order to play. That gives an almost entirely witch-run circuit where they can utilize their powers safe from persecution.
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>>2793444
>the game is so awful
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This recycling of designs becomes a bit confusing on some occasions or helps to feed rare theories.
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>>2793444
The cause of "The Fire" was Saki finding some old equipment from a century ago and trying them on. Her power suddenly spiked and we all know what happened.
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Pachinko time.
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>>2797672
Some Senriyama goods.

http://kako.futakuro.com/futa/may_b/611939063/1547532376892.webm
http://kako.futakuro.com/futa/may_b/611939063/1547531534652.webm
http://kako.futakuro.com/futa/may_b/611939063/1547525987106.webm
http://kako.futakuro.com/futa/may_b/611939063/1547533326127.webm
http://kako.futakuro.com/futa/may_b/611939063/1547532994033.webm
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>>2797673
The videos
https://www.sanyobussan.co.jp/products/pk_saki_achiga/movie/
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>>2797673
>>2797674
I find it funny the support that this couple receives in the official material.
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>>2797800
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>>2797801
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>>2797673
Come to think of it, going by this pachinko and that one Achiga PSP game, future!Toki can't handle the hot baths anymore. And she liked them so much in her prequel spin-off. Poor girl can't catch a break.
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Is there Yuri in this manga?

I checked it out it was all about a bunch of girls playing shogi or whatever in every God damn chapter
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>>2798101
The yuri is most heavy in season 1 of the anime. That's the part that many call "yuri with mahjong undertones".
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>>2798042
Hot baths are for old people. Toki likes to keep warm by other means, including kotatsu, blankets and Ryuuka.
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Achiga isn't S1 though.
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>>2798102
>The yuri is most heavy in season 1 of the anime.
It was the courtship phase between Saki and Nodoka, they are practically a couple in S3 (?), in addition to many other couples of different levels.

>>2798101
>I checked it out it was all about a bunch of girls playing shogi or whatever in every God damn chapter

It's a sports manga, that's why.
but you can really call yourself Yuri without any problem, the couples are pretty obvious and the girls do not hide their attraction to other girls, besides the women seem to be the dominant genre in that world, partly because of that sport.
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>>2798117
Just because your hamster didn't like it, Ryuuka, doesn't give you the right to make Toki act the same.
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>>2797673
>http://kako.futakuro.com/futa/may_b/611939063/1547532376892.webm
Touch the Toki butt.
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>>2798154
>women
>genre
Gender you mean? Males went out of fashion after the shitstorm of '10-'20. In Sakiverse they discovered that having half of each gender was the cause of most problems, tweaking the ratio to 70-80% female fixed a lot.
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>>2798262
Probably an ESL using Google Translate. Gender and genre are the same word in Spanish.
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>>2798177
I love that expression

>>2798262
>Gender you mean?
sorry, my mistake

>tweaking the ratio to 70-80% female fixed a lot.
So Saki is the prequel to Simoun? as I understand the OST tells the story of women revealing and extinguishing men, creating their own men and shitting things in the end anyway.





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