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Let's never forget the good times
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What would a pelican friend look like? I need to know for a terrible joke I want to draw.
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>>2770580
Here she is
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>>2770547
Kagan and Serval are a top yuri couple
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How Many Meat Buns Does It Take to Get A Date With Ezo Red Fox?

https://rainbowaftersnow.hatenablog.com/entry/2018/12/13/160727
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say hi to your new mc
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>>2771865
no
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>>2771865
burn it
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>>2771865
DELET
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>>2771865
She looks like a Lucky Beast.
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>>2771865
WHAT IN GOD'S EARTH IS THAT
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>>2771865
Hope there's fanart of her getting dom'd by Kaban-oneesan
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>>2771871
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>>2771893
You're all going to ship her with Caracal and you're going to like it
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>>2771896
>>2771894
>>>>her
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>>2771898
Yes, her.
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>>2771898
Even Kadokawa's not that stupid
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>>2771865
this is fucking disgusting
>>2771899
it's supposed to be a girl?
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>>2771903
Yes.
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>>2771899
>>2771901
>>2771903
Anons... I....
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>>2771865
Eww.
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>>2771905
The design being shit doesn't mean she's a boy. Beta Kaban was also pretty much a reverse trap and even pointed out as such.
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>>2771865
Damn. How did this design turn into that.
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>>2771905
so it's a boy?
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>>2771909
Kadokawa has terminally shit taste if they could go from this to that final product.
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>>2771910
Not a chance.
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>>2770546
I forgot.
>>2771865
And I'm glad I did.
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>>2771865
You are not Kaban!
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>>2771865
What's her name? Handbag?
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>>2771937
Please don't say that, don't taint the past because everything has gone so fucking wrong.
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>>2771909
Yeah, uh, I hope that not what they had in mind
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https://kemonogoudou.github.io/OsanaGoudou/
new kf collab
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckAJGAOOa1M&feature=youtu.be
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I heard there is some drama regarding Kemono Friends. What happened? Why are some people upset?
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>>2775848
tldr Original director sacked. Fans not happy.
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>>2775848
serval pooped in kaban's shoe, some people don't like this for some reason
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>>2775849
What about Kaban and Serval? Will they ever get off the boat or did they get sacked too?
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>>2775848
This is ancient news but the producers are just scummy and fired the director of the anime likely because they wanted total creative control. The franchise was bombing hard before the anime so the director got an unusual amount of creative control over the anime because the producers(Kadokawa) had close to zero faith or money invested in it. The given reason for firing the director was that he used show assets without express permission I believe this was referring to episode 12.1 which was made by the studio for free.
The anime was incredibly successful so Kadokawa wanted total control over the franchise to make da monies. The easiest way was just to fire the director Tatsuki or at least that's the theory. Then after fan backlash they made an apology video using the VAs of the anime which was also scummy, because they didn't do anything wrong and Kadokawa was essentially hiding behind them. And even scummier because the VAs likely had no choice because most of them are pretty new to the industry or not well known.
That's how I understand it anyway.

Also this: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-09-14/former-kemono-friends-director-tatsuki-i-havent-received-any-script-royalties/.136810

tl;dr - Producers fired the director of the anime for making free extras, likely because they wanted total control.
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>>2775852
Boat sunk, no survivors
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>>2775867
Thank you for the thorough reply. Wow. What a mess. RIP Kemono Friends. Not a chance in hell season 2 will not be shit. Once again short sighted corporate greed has destroyed a series. And I was so looking forward to season 2. Such a shame.
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>>2775848
>>2775878
Where have you been the past year?
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>>2775878
I mean it MIGHT be good. I don't have a lot of faith in it personally though and the whole ordeal soured it for me anyway.
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>>2775852
Kaban is off limits because she was made by Tatsuki I think.
Season 2 will be basically be a reboot with no characters from season 1 appearing. This >>2771865 is the new MC by the way.
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>>2775883
Ever since /a/ became too shitty to bear I had no place to stay up to date on anime drama. Yeah, I am on /u/ regularly, but that's usually to discuss and review or to share new yuri that I have discovered.
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>>2777239
I really hope this bombs so hard.
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>>2770546
Only suffering now from S2.
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>>2785628
Also this:
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>>2785628
Way ahead of you: >>2785001
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Happy year of Piggy everyone
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>>2791045
>You alright? Did they do anything to you?
>Yeah...I'm fine~
>They just whipped me, tied me up, dripped wax on me, then [censored] my butt
>...Yeah, you're alright...
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>>2771890
I thought it was fan art of a personified lucky beast for weeks
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Just a warning before any of you waste time with Tatsuki’s new show, they advertised it as an all-girls anime and then revealed the hetshit male MC in the first episode.
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>>2792484
>they advertised it as an all-girls anime
Not really, stop creating fake controversy.
Didn't you watch the shorts?
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>>2792556
The shorts shouldn't be relevant at all, this was advertised with the redheads every single time.
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I see the second season is receiving a lot of hate, I know there was some drama about it time ago but I don't know the reasons, can someone explain?
For what I get people is simply mad because Kaban isn't in it?
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>>2793352
>>2775867
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>>2793354
Tatsuki defence force in action. Go back to shilling his hetshit isekai harem in general thread.
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KF thread in /u/ and yet
not a single pic about the cat
who's very open about it?

Let's fix that
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>>2775867
Very biased post. Not director is ever allowed to use the IP as they want. They asked Tatsuki to stop, he admitted he didn't wanna stop. Try to find other directors using their shows to make ads like he did.

>The anime was incredibly successful so Kadokawa wanted total control over the franchise to make da monies. The easiest way was just to fire the director Tatsuki or at least that's the theory.
Theory backed by random 4chan anons. They would make more money with Tatsuki. There was no reason to fire him if he followed the rules.

>And even scummier because the VAs likely had no choice because most of them are pretty new to the industry or not well known.
Sadly, you people are trying to ruin these seiyuu's carrer.

>Also this
Tatsuki himself admitted he had misunderstanding what happened there and apologized later.

>Producers fired the director of the anime for making free extras, likely because they wanted total control.
It's their IP, they need to control it. Kadokawa's error was paying low attention to the anime, which made the staff think they had all the freedom, which is never true in these cases. In fact, Tatsuki using a character that belongs to him instead of belonging to the franchise just show how narcisist he is. That's not common to the anime industry at all. Usually original characters belong to the franchise, not the director.
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>>2771865
She's beautiful.
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>>2793410
>Not director is ever allowed to use the IP as they want.
But that's exa tly what happened in this case. They only changed their mind later.
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>>2793410
>In fact, Tatsuki using a character that belongs to him instead of belonging to the franchise just show how narcisist he is. That's not common to the anime industry at all. Usually original characters belong to the franchise, not the director.
The fact that he was allowed to use her at all proves that Kadokawa didn't give a fuck about he did.
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>>2793427
That's no true. The one who said he could use the IP as he wanted was the original creator. The thing is, the original creator didn't have the rights for it. He probably thought no one would give a shit because the franchise was dead.

>>2793434
Yeah, like I said, their mistake was not paying attention to the project. You could judge them for only doing something after the show's success. You're right there. But everything they did was still in their right.
Also, if the series had flopped as it was supposed to, no one would even want ads using the characters. Even if the director used the characters for shorts, no one would give a shit, even though he still didn't have the rights.
Since it was a hit, Kadokawa would be losing their rights on the brand. Can you imagine Index's director being like: "Why can't I use the characters to make personal side projects and Tatsuki can do it with KemoFure?"
They just couldn't allow him to do what he wanted anymore.
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>>2793441
That still doesn't justify them firing him. And I don't think anyone would taken it as precedent for handling IPs they adapt.
Even if what they did was "in their right", it was still dishonest.
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>>2793475
You have a company.
You have an employee that uses the company car with the company logo to go to parties.
You tell the employee to stop, after all, your company name will be damaged.
The employee said they won't stop, because your other employee was the one responsible for the car and they said the first employee could use it as they wanted.
Wouldn't you fire them?
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>>2793441
This is bullshit. The other companies involved had permission from Kadokawa to make the shorts. We know this because when Kadokawa tried to claim they didn't, they posted the documents on social media to prove it.

>>2793475
Ignore this guy, anon, he's just derailing.




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>>2793490
No, because the general public enjoys seeing the employee driving that car, and it has brought good publicity to the brand.
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>>2793498
The actual scenario is that you gave the employee express permission to take the car to the parties.
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>>2793496
I don't even remember if they were specific about what content he made without authorization, but that doesn't matter. Because they didn't fire him because of that. They fired him because he didn't agree with stopping doing it.
He also never said that was a lie. And I doubt he wouldn't do it because he complained about the scripts before even realizing it was a mistake.
Why would Kadokawa even fire him otherwise? I'm sure the new studio is more expensive for them, as is the new director, since he's a veteran.
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>>2793521
Because Kadokawa was mad some nobody revived alone a franchise that was about to die, the mobage did so bad that it close right before the anime aired. Nobody went to the promotional cafes in Akiba before the anime aired. Nobody cared about the manga. Everything was falling apart no matter what Kadokawa did, and then Tatsuki came and did a better job than all the efforts the company tried, and that made them mad.

So they figured a bullshit excuse to fire him and handle the anime to someone that actually belongs to Kadokawa. Which of course made the whole world mad. They didn't think this through.
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>>2793354
Thank you, I should have ctrl+f'ed "drama".

However >>2775867 doesn't really make sense for me.
First, a director doesn't own the rights of a series, right? Why did they have to fire him just to make a second series?
Second, if the brand was doing badly, why firing the director that turned it in a successful brand? Wouldn't it be better for them to let him doing a new season hoping for it to be successful like the first one?
Sorry for my ignorance. I don't even know how this show could get that popoularity since it's way too plain.
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>>2793542
See >>2793534
Basically Kadokawa wanted direct control of the brand, instead of a single independent person on charge of it.
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>>2793534
Wow, you really believe that? That's sad.
Kadokawa only cares about money. No one would risk money for such a bullshit reason. Even more when Kadokawa have dozens of franchises bigger than KemoFure.

>>2793542
Want the truth? Tatsuki created some fanaticals. They're crazy cultists that believe Tatsuki is Anime Jesus and will save the industry.
Don't even bother.
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>>2793567
Oh, so you admit Tatsuki was trying to steal the brand? Because yeah, he doesn't have any right of having independent control over it. He can do it with his shit harem show, but not KemoFure.
Also, let me remind you Kadokawa doesn't own the brand alone. All the committe was involved and agreed with the removal of Tatsuki's studio.
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>>2793573
>No one would risk money for such a bullshit reason
They thought the money was in the brand and anime, not in the person who made it. They made a terrible stupid mistake, they still wanted money but didn't get they needed Tatsuki, so because they didn't like him, they fired him trying to get money from the anime, this time produced by them.
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>>2793567
But what is this "direct control"? What didn't they like about the work of the director in the first series?
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>>2793576
>Oh, so you admit Tatsuki was trying to steal the brand?
No, you're making shit up because Tatsuki made a series not to your tastes so now he's the devil.
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>>2793599
For example, Tatsuki made an extra episode and uploaded it in his YouTube channel, instead of uploading it on Kadokawa's channel.
So all KemoFure's brand looked like it belonged to him instead.
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>>2793593
>didn't get they needed Tatsuki
They didn't need Tatsuki. The franchise is theirs.

>>2793599
They didn't like him using their characters for his own personal projects.
Imagine any of the directors of the Harry Potter movies using Harry Potter characters for their own things. Neither Rowling or Warner Brothers get a say. That director would be booted too.

>>2793604
He's not the devil, but he's not the god that can do no wrong some people seem to think he is.
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>>2793599
>But what is this "direct control"?
Making the anime in a safe, mass consumable by the numbersstyle, instead of a creative personal style
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>>2793604
>Tatsuki made a series not to your tastes so now he's the devil.
I'm sorry? I always thought this drama bullshit. Sure, we're annonymous board, so you can't know. But don't pretend people are only against making this guy anime jesus now.
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>>2793606
>They didn't need Tatsuki. The franchise is theirs.
But Tatsuki is the one who made the franchise succesful. Kicking him out would only bring bad publicity and scorn from the fans regardless of the quality of future seasons.
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>>2793609
Are they really fans of the franchise, then?
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>>2793612
They're fans of the anime, which is literally the only part of the franchise that truly matters.
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>>2793606
>Imagine any of the directors of the Harry Potter movies using Harry Potter characters for their own things. Neither Rowling or Warner Brothers get a say. That director would be booted too.
He actually had permission though.
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>>2793612
We'll know now if the fans really care or if it's just a bunch of noisy nerds.
Maybe they'll find new Tatsuki's show so bad that they'll realize he wasn't even needed for KemoFure.
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>>2793616
Again, the one who gave him "permission" didn't own the rights either.
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>>2793410
>Tatsuki himself admitted he had misunderstanding what happened there and apologized later.
He apologized for piggybacking on the stolen audition scripts case and said nothing about misunderstanding anything. ANN ran the tweet through google translate and made up the rest.
https://twitter.com/irodori7/status/1041280392488148993

>>2793521
>I don't even remember if they were specific about what content he made without authorization, but that doesn't matter. Because they didn't fire him because of that. They fired him because he didn't agree with stopping doing it. He also never said that was a lie.
The official explanation says Yaoyorozu chose to quit rather than agree with whatever "normalization" KFP demanded. Yaoyorozu say they were suddenly fired without being told why.
https://twitter.com/fukuhara_ystd/status/945943151998509056

>>2793619
The production committee?
https://twitter.com/fukuhara_ystd/status/945943187205472257
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>>2794092
>The production committee?
No, he said before the one who said he could do whatever was the real creator. This is about episode 12.1.
In fact, think about it. Kadoka gave permission for episode 12.1 after the show's success. So your "theory" that they fired him because he made the show a success fails.

Aside from that, you only have Tatsuki's word itself.
You know who would gain with refusing Kadokawa's rules, make a big deal out of it and make his own independent show without the need to pay a part to Kadokawa? Only Tatsuki.
In fact, he's even broadcasting his show at the same season as Kemono Friends 2 and his crazy fanatics are targetting the studio making KemoFure 2.
The only one getting anything out of it is Tatsuki, and you just trust his words blindly.
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Anyone provide a translation?
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surprise prairie dog
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Today is the day, everyone. Let's pray that Kyururu is a cute girl.
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>>2796127
I'm bracing for impact, ready for the worst.
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It begins.
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Is that a boy or a girl?
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>>2796630
I wouldn't expect this to be made clear before the end of the season, like last time.
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>>2796630
It's kinda being left ambiguous for now, though the "chan" leads more towards girl.
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>>2796647
>>2796632
Didn't one of the artbooks say that she was a girl? She just looks tomboyish.
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>but she uses 'boku' to refer to herself!
That means nothing. Girls also use 'boku' to refer to themselves.
Now, if she said 'ore', we would be abandoning ship so fast we wouldn't even salute the dudes playing sad music as the boat sinks.
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Eastern Spot-Billed Duck
a CUTE!
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>>2796653
Orekko are just as much of a thing.
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>>2796653
Kaban used "boku" too.
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I saw a leaked storyboard on /a/ that shows Kaban bidding farewell to Serval as she goes off with Caracal and Blue Kaban.

That made me very sad
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>>2796669
Here it is.
This is making me unreasonably upset
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>>2796776
She's dead.
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>>2796776
Same here, hopefully it's not real I bet it is though
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>>2796776
Hey, depending on how it's handled, it would be good closure to Kaban's character.
Or maybe it's fake.
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>>2796788
>good closure to Kaban's character.
>parting with Serval
no thanks
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Not sure how to feel about it. It wasn't awful but there many things I didn't like. They had way too many Friends around at the same time and Serval feels kinda shoehorned. Didn't like the OP at all. The CG just doesn't look good without Yaoyoruzu's style, they should have made it 2d in the game's artstyle.
It might get good later just like S1 did but it's hard to tell.
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>>2796749
Nice.
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>>2796829
Also they couldn't have given the MC a more retarded name. Japanese onomatopeia are stupid.
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>>2796837
Bag-chan isn't a very clever name either
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>>2796829
>They had way too many Friends around at the same time and Serval feels kinda shoehorned.
The needed it. Otherwise, it would look exactly like the first episode of the first season.

>Didn't like the OP at all.
Agreed with that, but whatever.

>The CG just doesn't look good without Yaoyoruzu's style
The CG is way better. Why do you people want it to be uglier?
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>>2796846
It sounds cute and at least it's not the sound of a bodily function.

>>2796870
>The CG is way better. Why do you people want it to be uglier?
It's not as lively as S1's designs. Mine's designs just don't look good in 3D, that's why I think they should have went 2D for this season.
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>>2796914
2D would look like a completely different show. I think the CG is fine and more lively than S1.
I like the new cerulean better, too.
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/u/ you're not actually worried Kyururu is a boy, right?
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>>2796964
There is no reason to worry about something I'm not watching. I already watched the original season.
I'm just in this thread for pictures of gay foxes.
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>>2796953
>2D would look like a completely different show.
That might be good though. Give it its own identity rather than try to copy superficial elements from the first season for familiarity/nostalgia.

>>2796964
No, only retards are worried about that.
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>>2796669
I can't believe Kaban is fucking dead.
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>>2797074
I'm glad she is dead.
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>>2797074
This could be actually interesting if they follow up on it.
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>>2796669
>>2797074
I guess that's my last episode right there, I'll probably make it my farewell as well.

>>2797075
Fuck you.
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>>2797022
>That might be good though. Give it its own identity rather than try to copy superficial elements from the first season for familiarity/nostalgia.
>Make the sequel for a show and make it look nothing like the original show.
Sure, that makes a lot of sense.

>>2797074
RIP.
Maybe new girl is Kaban and Serval child, though.
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>>2797074
Kemono Friends more like Kemono Deds haha
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>>2797174
>believing random rumours on the internet
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See You Park Cowgirl
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>>2797294
If I can't trust my /u/ friends, who can I trust Mahiru-chan?
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>>2797347
Your heart.
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>>2797074
they are playing with fire, there are many ways to handle things with the sequel, that it was different and that it really did not try to insult the detractors, new story with new people, many sequels do that, people complain, but it's never anything important.
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So I re-watched the first ep of S1 straight after the S2 ep to compare them.

The op is trying too hard to be cute and has none of the authenticity of the original.
Original kemofure almost always focused on establishing then developing the relationships between the new friends that were introduced, alongside whatever else was going on, which was one of the reasons it generated so much yuri art. The new season shows no sign of that so far, being focused entirely on the MC's dilemma, conflict with ceruleans, and cutesy stuff in that order.
Scriptwriting doesn't seem as good either. You're clubbed over the head with each friend's special skills, while it was worked more naturally in to the conversation in the original.
There were some nice moments, like Kyu's drawing for Duck-chan, but so far S2 seems more shallow then the original.
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>>2797519
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. First episode of S1 was just bland and S2 did the exact same thing.
The relationship between characters came later.
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>>2797530
Did you even finish the series? The conversations in the first ep lay the groundwork for many of the themes and events to come and are directly relevant to the emotional climax of the story.

Almost the entire episode is Kaban and Serval interacting and building up their relationship, both cerulean fights serve that purpose, and even their conversation with Hippo developes their relationship because she advises Kaban not to rely on Serval for everything. All of which makes it believable when Serval chooses to leave her own habitat to travel with Kaban. You might find all of that boring but you can't say it didn't happen.

The S2 ep did not have anywhere near as much focus. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be bad, it just doesn't have the same charm so far.
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>>2797547
Because the setting is already stablished.
Also, do you realize by what you said that how relevant epi 1 of S2 will only be clear after the show is over?
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>>2797553
Yes, that's one of the comments I cut out because it's blindingly obvious and I was trying not to make a wall of text.
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After watching episode 1 of season two I'm afraid they are going to reveal it to be far in the future where Kaban / bagchan is dead (from old age or cerealian). Servial and the other apparently have much longer natural life spans than humans.

Who do you think took out the giant cerrlean?
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>>2798036
I actually want that. That would mean theres still a possibility that Serval and Kaban lived a long and happy life together instead of just drifting apart after S1 ended.

I don't mind that Serval seems to have forgotten about most of their time together either, that's the type of immortality I actually hope humanity will achieve eventually. That way you can have a current lifetime's worth of happiness with the people around you and keep moving onwards without everything becoming dull.
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>>2798036
Kaban is a Friend
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>>2798036
>Who do you think took out the giant cerrlean?
Apparently it was Siberian Tiger.
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Fart-chan is cuter than Bag-chan. There, I said it.
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First new couple besides Pangolin and Armadillo.
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>>2802125
>panda + red panda
Now you have my attention.
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What a meaningless episode. At least they're self-aware.
And Serval even forgot what the ocean is. Grimdark.
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>>2802453
>cute gay girls being cute and gay
>meaningless
You ought to double-check your priorities anon.
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>>2802697
There were, like, 10 seconds of pandas being gay with each other.
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>>2802453
>What a meaningless episode.
Well, yeah, like the whole first half of S1.
Only thing bothering me so far is making the same plot with the two girls looking for them. I hope they don't stretch it to the end.
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>>2802699
More like 20 minutes of cuteness climaxing in gayness.
Not every anime can be full-blown yuri, but shows like this make any season that much more pleasant.
Just disregard people fussing over the former director on principle and enjoy the good points of the show.
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>>2802704
personally I would have preferred not to use Serval and only Caracal, that way it would be more personal, a new adventure in the park with new characters is not a bad idea, but cancel the end of s1, it's just silly.
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>>2802717
Pretty sure they're going somewhere with it, Serval mysteriously losing memory was also hinted at during S1 (when they heard Mirai's voice recording and she started crying), so rather than cancelling it, the ending was time-skipped and we're left wondering what on earth could've lead to the current predicament.
I for one like this direction, it feels more unpredictable than just picking up where S1 left off; on the surface everything is just like it was during the previous season, but nothing actually is.
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>>2802724
I would have preferred S2 with new characters and with different dynamics, could help a little, leave Serval to the end or something like that.
Exploring new areas of the park also helps a little, it also seems that the mystery is different from S1, Kaban did not have any memory of anything, here things are a little different.

>Serval mysteriously losing memory was also hinted at during S1 (when they heard Mirai's voice recording and she started crying)

the funny thing is how your VA was different in the recording, wait for them to use that gap in their favor and there may be a Celureal involved.
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>>2802704
>enjoy the good points of the show
I can't find any.
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It’s dead, Jim
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>>2802762
S1 was not a masterpiece, it was good and it handled well, in the end it is an adaptation, S1 deserves time to work properly and it is more a set than small parts, let's wait as S2 progresses and I still complain about serval.
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>>2802762
The MC isn't a shitty male self insert for the girls to fall in love with.
Found one for you.





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