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ITT: Discuss any Bushiroad-related franchise and the yuri content therein. Bandori, Revue Starlight and D4DJ welcome.
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You forgot, didn't you?
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>>3384550
Maybe this way we'll be able to survive for more than a month.
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>>3384612
Hope
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can someone dump the new starlight movie on nyaa? the retards on vg are like "check out my google drive link!" and also "it's on the discord!"

it's either not ripped or i'm getting filtered fucking hard. this is some nu-madokami tier discord mafia shit.
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>>3385154
>2021
>not ddling

You should meet that moron who whined when no one spoonfed it a camrip and threw a titinfant fit when people pointed out there was no home video release at the time. The two of you will poison each other with the sheer concentration of inanity.
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>>3385160
nah that guy sounds like a freak, i just want a free movie smile
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Happy 6 Bandori.
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>>3385154
so you got spoonfed twice and want it a third time?
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>>3384553
Reminder that Rinku's romantic interest was the childhood friend (Muni) that's weird.
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>>3386977
Did she win?
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>>3387029
More than winning, they have a love Rap battle (seriously), I expected Muni to be Yaya but she wasn't.
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>>3387034
Over a girl?
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>Over a girl?
between them, clarifying their true feelings and stuff.
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I'm fucking glad Revue Starlight pivoted back to making Nana the main villain.
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so good
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Dead already?
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Bandori concerts are on tonight.
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Happy 4th Garcia.
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>>3391828
finally saw the movie, loved how the recap content plus the added content basically made Nana go
>oh I'm healed and I want to move forward now
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>just kidding teehee
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Shame d4dj seems unpopular
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>>3415138
>Shame d4dj seems unpopular

We need to get some Hololivers on board. I heard Reine is into it.
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>>3415270
Dumb
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>>3405589
I really like their dynamic
Mind posting a google drive?
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>>3384550
Is Cardfight Vanguard allowed here? Not that it has much yuri potential to begin with, but it's a Bushiroad franchise and there's still SOME good stuff out there.
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I like the small girl.
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mayakuro forever
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Sure I guess.
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by ユリナメクジ
「ましろちゃんはいつも綺麗だね!」
「…香澄さんもですよ」
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>>3422958
i-is Mahiru on a rampage here?
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>>3412451
You enjoyed that? I felt insulted that all of her character development was undone for seemingly no reason. I don't really see the point of the continuation at all, the original ending was perfect - not like Madoka which needed a movie to address Homura's hanging development arc. But whatever, I'll still watch any RevStar content they decide to make.
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>>3425537
you're right but I was just having a chuckle at that, I am still curious to see what happens regardless
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>>3425558
They did pull off the atmosphere of those added scenes very well. I'm thinking, given the "death of the stage girl" line it ended with, that the next movie might be about how the tradition of stage performance is dying out and the existential threat this poses the stage girls, that they can only be reborn if a stage exists to stand on. This wouldn't be the worst direction to go if they are going to continue it, as it would leave the interpersonal and systemic (within stage performance) conflict resolved and shift toward a conflict faced by the system from the outside. Basically, saying, "Sure the system has flaws but we still want and need the system to exist."
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This is happening
https://twitter.com/bandori_updates/status/1380596518973935616
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>>3427811
>Junana fight
Yes. I've been waiting for this. Wonder what they'll do with Mahiru's character
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these two are super gay for each other arent they?
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This sure is one way to have protective sex.
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>>3427811
How is that Starlight supposed to different from the previous one?
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>>3431453
This is a sequel.
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>>3427811
Can't wait to see this... more than a year from now.
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>>3438202
The bicycle of Siegfeld.
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Damn shame about d4dj en
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>>3438405
Why?
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>>3438405
I am also curious.
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>>3438638
In the end it's going to be a separate app from the Japanese version due to licensing issues. So expect a lot of stuff to be cut from the EN server.

https://twitter.com/D4DJ_game_EN/status/1387229973107273732
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>>3438686
not that I follow d4dj right now but isn't it the norm for a separate app to be released that's gimped compared to the original nip release? there was actual hope for translation of the current up to date app before this news?
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>>3438730
They previously said it was gonna be the same app as the Japanese version with an added English option (but they weren't clear on exactly what that meant). I guess all the licensing cost was just too much to have it all available outside of Japan, so they had to create a separate app for the EN release.
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D4DJ en may 27th
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>>3438686
Should have spent more time on copyright and less time posting net memes.
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NGNC was held today. You can still buy the stream.
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>>3440931
Pretty sure the guy running the English Twitter account is the same insufferable asshole who was shitting up the Love Live and Bandori fandoms with his pompous behavior, enabled by a horde of EOPs who would pat his butt whenever he threw a titbaby fit for perceived slights against him and/or the project he was acting like an asshole for that day.

I guess Bushiroad haven't fired him or haven't found out which of their Singaporean employees it is yet.
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>>3443290
Please consume your medication.
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>>3440931
D4DJ needs to cut back on cover songs and constant crossovers to establish an identity of its own.

https://twitter.com/osakadreaminite/status/1389097146947760129

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Any starlight movie spoilers yet?
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>>3467207
Kuro and Maya's revue is apparently called The Revue of Love
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>>3467230
That's just fanfiction from your head, my gal
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>>3467399
Don't fucking tell me they have separated the cast in such weird groups/pairs
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>>3467477
After graduation Nana and Hikari go to London, Claudine goes back to France, Junna goes to uni by herself, Kaoruko goes back to Kyoto, Maya, Mahiru and Futaba go to uni together and Karen is unknown.
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>>3467498
Seriously, they had ONE job, let every pair get their happy-ever-after epilogue together.
But to the satisfaction of absolutely nobody at all we get this instead.
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>>3467528
I shipped HikaNana since the beginning sis, stay mad.
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>>3467498
Yeah, as much as I've memed around with some ships this is just... wrong, fuck whoever thought this was a good idea, let the established couples have a happy end TOGETHER
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Guess I won't watch the movie.Fucking unnecessary sequel ruining shit when there wasn't any need to
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>>3467498
Is that the epilogue?
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>>3467498
Was this done for the waifufags? What's the point of this?
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>>3467627
Do waifufags even exist for this series? Also, why are you making judgements before you've seen the movie?
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>>3391828
Were you talking about the movie or mobage? I like how nana is slowly being driven into the role of a villan in the mobage, but have mixed feelings about how the movie seems to be moving back on her development.
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>>3467498
It was there all along
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>>3467654
>slowly being driven into the role of a villan
Nobody "drove" her into it. I found it a weird plot point that retread much of what she had already gone through, just in a new packaging. Mahiru's evolving motivations make sense because there were signs of how she has grown since her revue with Karen and/or the start of GekiFest, but there was little indication of Nana going down this path until the recent chapter updates suddenly whipped it out.

And in any case, her motivations are still not villainous.
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>>3467600
I can't believe it. They were the fated couple all along?
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>>3467820
There were hints in various character stories. I think her "Justice" character story is the lead up to her revue with mahiru, and can sort of be worked into her motivations, though its admittedly sort of flimsy.
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Guess Live #3 is gonna be the last Revue Starlight project then?
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>>3467916
I don't think bushiroad would be so hasty to end one of their more unique franchises. We'll see what happens after #3 but I wouldn't rule out more anime content featuring the other schools.
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>>3467651
>Also, why are you making judgements before you've seen the movie?
Not that anon but, I mean, it is what it is, Starlight was by far the gayest bushi IP and I can't help but feel let down with that development.
I'll pretend it doesn't exist, Nana was right all along.
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>>3467498
I don't know how to feel about this. I'm surprised we get an actual epilogue of at least the near future but I didn't expect starlight would have an "everyone goes their own way" type of ending
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>>3467917
I would like to at least get a few ovas with the other schools. I feel like they deserve more love, especially siegfeld.
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>>3467925
Rinmeikan as well, for /u/ purposes. The love drama in that school is through the roof.
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>>3467927
Doesn't matter. Everyone in that school will separate after graduating. I want no OVAs or anything more of Starlight, after that shit ending. They wasted the main cast, and they'll ruin others if you let them
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>>3467916
The mobage will probably be ongoing for some time, and there might be new manga too. I believe it might be the end for the anime/stage play side of things though, unless they decide to do OVAs with the other schools (or stage plays focused on Seiran).
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Instead og going for actual realism in that not all 9 of them are meant to be stage actors, that maybe Nana was meant to be a Director, Junna was meant to be a Writer, and Futaba was meant to be a coach/stunt person/Kaoruko's manager, they went full retard and separate all the pairs. Satsuga, Bushi.
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>>3467936
>They wasted the main cast, and they'll ruin others if you let them
My thoughts exactly, what was the freaking point of Karen challenging the system because she wanted a happy ending, and choosing Hikari over being the lead?
You know, let's just throw everything away to please... uh nobody?
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>>3467925
Siegfeld were confirmed to have all 5 Edels appearing in the Starira stage production(s). I doubt the Starira schools will get spinoff anime of their own, though I'd be happy for KC to prove me wrong eventually.
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>>3467973
Japanese fans are quite happy with the movie that they actually got to watch. I'd believe their opinions over some screeching EOP who is jumping to conclusions about something it didn't experience firsthand.
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>>3467977
You know experiencing the whole movie won't change the ending, right? even if it's presented in a good light because muh personal growth it still sucks
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>>3467985
Stories are more than just the ending, especially when said ending consists of random spoilers on an imageboard.
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Someone persuade me into or dissuade me from watching the movie.
I don't really wanna waste 2000 yen and risk getting corona-chan if it's that bad.

Also, they said that there will be extra video content in today's showing, whatever that means.
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>>3468061
Just watch it and whatever will be will be.
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>>3467498
>mahiru gets two girlfriends
Couldn't ask for a better ending.
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>>3468061
I mean, if you like the franchise then sure. Even if you end up hating the ending it's better to see it for yourself than reading spoilers about it imo.
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>>3468067
>mahiru gets 6 girlfriends total
How did she do it?
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>>3468044
Sure, but you can't really salvage those spoilers.
Like, even if they're still in touch with each other so what? that's the worst kind of open-ended, because bushi expects you to headcanon their lives after that, it reeks of cowardice to even commit to a single couple.
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farmers energy
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>>3468090
Anon, this is a Bushiroad anime, were you expecting a kiss or something?
Even Rondo which is as gay as it gets doesn't have them doing that.
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>>3467977
The Japanese love that bittersweet fleeting love bullshit though
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How the fuck do I cope, /u/? I'm very close to unironically burning every merch I have.
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>>3468100
Do what Tendou Maya would do
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>>3468102
I don't have a baby frog bum to rape.
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>>3468100
but why...
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>>3468061
Take the bullet and then red-pill us anon.
Be the hero we need and don't deserve.
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>>3468093
No, just a simple
>and they went to college together *wink nudge*
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>>3468100
Do what Nana would do
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After seeing decent summary i can see why people didn't like the separate the girls and leave it on a cliffhanger ending. With that being said at least Bushi didn't fuck it up and pull some Digimin season 2 ending where all the girls reunite after a few years having been stuffed into a het shit relationship with kids that look like clones if themselves. The only thing we can hope for is either the stage play or god forbid the game gives us a little better closure.
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>>3468121
Even Bushi wouldn't put their yuribait characters in het relationships after a timeskip.

I don't know, they haven't ever shown grown up characters before, right? So I don't think Starlight will be an exception. This is probably the end for the Seishou girls.
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>>3468127
>they haven't ever shown grown up characters before, right?
I think Vanguard had them but it has been so long and I didn't even watch all seasons so I'm not sure.
And I guess adult Honoka in the LL movie if that counts
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>>3468129
I don't think that Love Live is a Bushiroad IP. They just publish the mobile games.
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>>3468121
Eh, FutaKao revue was, according to every account I've seen, laden with so much hot-and-heaviness that it's a wonder they didn't somehow bump the rating higher. And Kaoruko apparently learned to drive a motorcycle after Futaba isn't around to ferry her.

Maya/Kuro revue also justified how MahoAi described them as a "married couple" and having too much love between them for rivals. And the dissing of each other's intros was a nice touch.

All in all I do think that Maho's view of Maya and Kuro seeing each other again in a future audition is a positive note. The anons overreacting about the characters having lives after high school sound like they're overfixated on their own high school lives.
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>>3468127
>forgetting Souda and Yakumo
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>>3468134
>laden with so much hot-and-heaviness
Care to elaborate?
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>>3468138
Go to the pixiv FutaKao tag, filter by R-18.
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>>3468134
>sound like they're overfixated on their own high school lives
I'm all in for aging the characters, but it doesn't bode well to segregate *every* pair like that, even if the seiyuu try to sugarcoat it.
I'm genuinely surprised they didn't even try to push Hikari and Karen together.
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>>3468090
I don't get what the big deal is. Every story leaves a thing or two after the ending to the imagination. Would have it really been that different if the established pairs stayed together? Life goes on, going separate ways doesn't mean you'll never see each other again.
You're all acting like they married off the girls with the girls they remained with. I'm not entirely sure this whole outrage isn't just concern trolling.
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Someone said about a post-credits scene
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>>3468152
Kasumi approaches Karen and tells her she's putting a team together.
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>>3468093
Hina Logi had a kiss
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>>3468134
Nanoha did the growing up into their own fields right, by keeping them together. Starlight just went below Nanoha, a 2004 franchise where NanoFate still have to call themselves friends
Not a good look
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/u/:
>The series is dead to me! It's all ruined! I'm burning my merch!
/vg/:
>Hikari x Banana is canon, let's celebrate!
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>>3468164
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>>3468142
#2 already showed that Hikari has the capacity to think about her future and not waste her second chance at Seishou, even if she has to stumble along the way. Meanwhile Karen not knowing what she wants or where she is going is a recurring issue for her; she is more reactive and tends to deal with problems when they happen. At the start of the movie, Karen is the only one who hasn't filled in her form for future plans when everyone else has some idea of what they intend to do (further studies, gain formal title, whatever).

Just because they are the protagonists doesn't mean it is a good idea to push them together when their story arcs are developing in different directions and bringing them on separate paths.
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>>3468164
Not to go all ACK, but imagine having to cope by clinging to a nonsensical paring that doesn't have any build up in canon.
Crack shipping is fine as a fan activity, not as justification to cope and pretend an ending separating every stablished couple is not garbage
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>>3468164
Hikari sucks and I'm tired of pretending she doesn't. I pity Banana, whom I actually like.
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>>3468176
Nonsense. Still shit writing and ending. Still doing it worse than Nanoha. Shouldn't have written the characters like that, or should have done some character development for Karen so she's with Hikari.
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>>3468176
>Just because they are the protagonists doesn't mean it is a good idea to push them together
Maybe in an epilogue or something, I don't know, it feels off to separate the MC and her supposed destiny (love interest)
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>>3468185
It is off. Not even hetshitters tolerate that shit. See the shitshow with Erased
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>>3468184
>hasn't watched movie
>movie is about Karen's development
The Olympics are unlikely to happen and yet you still want to do all these gymnastics
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>>3468190
>Karen's development
>doesn't even end up with Mahiru
Still shit and not /u/ in the sightless, that's enough of a reason to be pissed off
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>>3468190
>>movie is about Karen's development
Then, the ending is plain shitty writing with no justification, and doesn't change how it's worse than Nanoha. Damn it, incredible that the writers of Starlight'd be bigger hacks than the guy who made Nanoha Force and has no idea of how to handle the franchise anymore.
The development is done wrong if Karen can't be shown together with Hikari. It's also wasting all the time S1 spent selling their bond
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>>3468193
We're long past Pinoy bedtime, my dear.
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>>3468193
Indeed, Evatard hetshitters shit on 4.0 for how Anno shat the bed with the relationships. Yet yuri fans of Starlight are suppossed to accept this shit, and consoom product without complaining. Well, I refuse to shut up and simply consume next product
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Dunno I didn't expected anything in the first place. What made you so invested in the pairings?
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>>3468212
Having pairings in the first place.
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>>3468212
This is the yuri board. Of course people talking about Starlight here care about the pairings
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>>3468225
I wouldn't be surprised if the anons throwing bitchfits here make a 180 and start squealing on twitter/discord or wherever children play these days, after they see badly spelled English spoilers for the Maya/Kuro revue.

Kuro defeats Maya.
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>>3468235
It's all worthless. Meaningless. Wasting your time for an end that separates the girls and mocks you for ever feeling invested in these revues and what they were suppossed to symbolize about the girls' relationships
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>>3468164
Based /vg/chads. /u/ is always too sensitive.
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>>3468235
It doesn't change the shitty ending.
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So I guess /u/ is not gonna buy the rings now?
https://twitter.com/bushi_creative/status/1400754207741808644/photo/1
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Canonically and for all we know the girls weren't even going out with each other. Why are you all pissed? You know Bushi only does CGDCT yuribait without the het ending.
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>>3468247
Dunno, I think people just forgot about the LL movie that also ends with all of them graduating.
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>>3468251
At least the LL movie didn't have them going off to different countries.
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>>3468254
Because they aren't even international? Since the beginning we know Hikari is linked to bongland and Claudine is a frog. The only one who ended surprisingly going abroad is Banana but it also makes sense because just like Hikari she got talent she needs to develop in a world-class theater university. Maya doesn't need this because she is a thoroughbred and already has prestige in Japan.
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>>3468244
You are a very optimistic anon to believe anons in these threads spend money on merchandise; if I had a fraction of your imagination, I'd be a mildly infamous politician by now.
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>>3468257
Well I actually spent like $1000 on merch when it first came out and a few more on the gacha to get Phantom Nana but had to stop because I'm a third worlder and have better things to spend money on.
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>>3468244
Did you think those were /u/ related items? The rings are obviously made for you to pick the waifu of your choice so you can propose to her, now that she's free after graduating.
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>>3468258
>I actually spent like $1000 on merch
[x] Doubt
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>>3468257
I mainly just bought stuff like the manga and blu-rays, none of the merch really interests me much. If there were high quality figures for the girls I'd be bankrupt by now though.
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>>3468164
The waifufags are making fun of the separation by joking about a crack pairing and the people that like yuri are disappointed, sounds normal to me.
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>>3468260
Don't. I bought the initial posters, Karen's little sword (I think I posted this one on /a/), all the Ani-Art shirts and mugs, the gay HiKaren full graphic T-shirt, a black Karen T-shirt, "THIS IS" T-shit, the travel stickers, the acrylic stands, a Banana mousepad that sadly is already in very bad condition, all the RabaQs that were out at the moment and I don't remember what else. Anyway, shipping included I remember it being a bit more than $1000.
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>>3468251
Love Live is not a fucking bushi franchise, why is there one retard that doesn't seen to understand this even when they're told they're wrong everytime?
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https://fusetter.com/tw/gtZdiXGz

There's some fun trivia here regarding the Starlight movie, though it seems the anons who are upset that it didn't cater to their ships won't bother either way.
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>>3468265
I didn't say it was though? I'm not even the person that mentioned it earlier.
But if you can't see the similarities in a movie that had a ending with a group of 9 girls going their separate ways after graduation you might be retarded.
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>>3468266
Most people here can't even read English properly, what makes you think they can read Japanese.
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>>3468247
Hina Logi had a kiss. Muh bushiroad is a shitty argument. And all they needed to do is to keep up the delusion instead of breaking it. Might as well say Karen's in a coma and dreamed the whole show and movie if they want to shit on what fans like so much
Many shows do well keeping up the delusions. Again, Nanoha. Nanoha did it much better. There's no reason for Starlight to be below Nanoha in terms of /u/
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>>3468269
Go have sex with Nanoha if you like it so much.
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>>3468270
You go fuck Bushiroad if you like them so much.
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>>3468268
All the frothing over one post that left out everything of significance in the movie is proof enough that illiteracy never stopped anybody.
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>>3468272
I'm not sucking bushi's cock like you are Nanoha's.
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>>3468273
There's no longer anything of significance in the movie, or TV show. The ending shatr on the entire story and made it meaningless and pointless
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>>3468273
I dare say the epilogue of what is almost certainly the final entry in the anime series is of pretty great significance.
All the pairings could be tribbing for the entirety of the movie and that ending would still ruin everything.
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>>3468263
/revue/ has no waifufags, though.
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>>3468274
You are with how desperately you defend them when they made a movie that shat the bed so bad, even a show from 2005 has a better ending for /u/
If it's StrikerS we're comparing with, Starlight's ending is pathetic, Like goddamn they failed where shows made so long ago didn't fail. I'll keep mentioning it, because it's true and beause not a single one of you defense force retards can even deny how much of a mistake that ending is even when compared to a 2005 or a 2007 show
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>>3468257
I bought a ton of shit during my starlight fever, and that's leaving starira aside, goddamnit I pulled for every Maya, Claudine and Mahiru.
And I don't regret any of it, just to be clear, but yeah suffice to say that I won't be supporting bushi anymore, I honestly had some *tempered* hopes for starlight and they dropped the ball way too much
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>>3468275
This is beginning to sound rather like that animeonly anon who was shitting up the Assault Lily threads because it couldn't stomach the idea of other entries in the series being gayer and having more established pairings when they weren't in English.
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That is a lot of whining from people who haven't watched a single frame of the movie.
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>>3468278
Really? Then it's probably one of those dead generals that keeps getting necro bumped by one or two genuine autists that have nothing else to do, whatever they do there, it's probably not talking about yuri considering how little content starlight had lately.
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You know, if this had happened to some shallow series like Bang Dream or Love Live, where the pairings are constantly mixed and matched just to fish for what's popular with total disregard for storytelling, I wouldn't have bat an eyelid.
But damn, Revue Starlight was special, how often are we blessed with an original anime that is just a teeny bit away from gachi yuri content, on top of an engaging story, great animation sequences and superb soundtrack?
And then for the promised grand finale it's all turned into "yeah, those times will sure make precious memories as the girls just move on with their individual lives like nothing happened".

>>3468292
What kind of scenes could possibly salvage this ending? Do you expect every pair to exchange vows at some point to keep in contact at all times and plan a life together as soon as they're done with their studies? Pretty sure the spoilers would have mentioned it.
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>>3468292
Every frame is pointless now with that shit ending
As >>3468304 said, Starlight was special. Something above all those subtext shows, and yes the ending fails so hard, Starlight is now below a very old and outdated subtext show. It is pathetic
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>>3468296
The game had a confession scene and now has a borderline yandere sister pursuing her oneechan, so that's more yuri than what the anime is currently providing.
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>>3468309
It's ok, they'll just go their separate ways once they reach adulthood.
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>>3468292
Oh yeah, the Mayakuro revue is called Revue of Love and they do something akin to flirting I guess, well nevermind that totally changes the context of the ending, Claudine is just attending a training camp at France for french kissing BUT she'll return and thoroughbreed Maya's throat!
See? I'm writing my fanfic just like bushi wanted.
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>>3468235
Why would that be good? Doesn't that just make the ending sound even worse? Claudine was obsessed with Maya, and now she shits on her and just fucks off back to her home like her job there is done. I was big on MayaKuro but that just make things even more depressing.
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Yeah, all of this definitely feels like a single autist throwing a tantrum while samefagging.
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>>3468336
Whatever you say, ACK
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>>3468336
Certainly a lot more comfortable to write off every critic you don't like as one person.
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>>3468275
So did you even like Starlight as a franchise or you just watched it for the yuri? Because I was waiting for Starlight ever since pic related dropped. I was waiting for Starlight well for over a year before it even aired. I personally shilled the show in /a/ and here months before it came out to peak people's attention beforehand. I watched the god damn stage play when the BDs got ripped, again, before the anime even aired. I bet I pre-ordered the merch months, if not years, before you even knew this shit even existed. I watched the pre-air stream, I loved the preview of the songs, I loved the shit out of the anime as it aired. I loved the MayaKuro midnight revue as well. I bought all the fucking albums and OST and I still listen to them to this day. I read the spin-off manga, I also play the fucking mobage and I have enjoyed each and every story this franchise has done because the people involved in the project are pretty incredible. Just because you're unsatisfied with the ending (because you're a dumb male that can't jerk off to the ships anymore?) doesn't make the whole experience meaningless and pointless. Kill yourself.
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>>3468336
Right? The idea that somebody could ever be disappointed is just preposterous.
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>>3468348
this is a nice pasta, where did it originate from? I don't remember seeing it before.
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>>3468109
To be honest, I don't mind the movie ending as long as the mobage story is enjoyable.
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>>3468348
>because you're a dumb male that can't jerk off to the ships anymore?
If you seriously believe that people here are invested in ships because of that, then you just outed yourself as a tourist.
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You're a bunch of retards. But that's to be expected of people on a board full of chink waifufag mobage generals and imaginary yuri from het series, and worse still, combination generals for no good reason.
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>>3468348
Are you seriously asking /u/ if they "just" enjoyed something because of the yuri?
Go back
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>>3468368
/vg/ is two doors down anon.
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>>3468348
How dare people in a board for yuri have yuri as one of their main motivations for liking a show.
Will you go rant to /m/ next about them hating a show with poorly animated mecha fights?
Did you make a similar rant when Eva 4.0 released and /a/ was complaining about the ships?
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I bet the ending isn't even as bad as you all make it seem but it's a shame it's gonna take several months for the BDs to get released and at that point no one will care anymore but the troll's damage will be done. What a shitfest.
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>>3468378
Yeah, consume product and get excited for new products. It won't be that bad, just shut up, don't ask questions and consume
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>>3468378
You make it sound like /u/ has some major influence over other people's opinion and that it will imply heavy damage on the franchise's honor or something, there hasn't been any complaints about it besides that the ending is negatively impacting the odds of future yuri from it.
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>>3468296
>being mad about movie she hasn't watched
>being mad about a general she doesn't even lurk on
/revue/ likes the /u/ part of the franchise very much so
calm your fucking tits and stop spiraling your head down the drain
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>>3468390
Who's mad? You sound frustrated. Talking like /revue/ is a single person only feels like I hit it spot-on.
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wow japanese fans are vocal about the new movie and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way everyone separated like naruto and the whole monging. I guess they were holding out hope for a good writing ending. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the ending changed. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
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>>3468394
Stop spreading misinfo you fucking mong, the Karentards here are gonna believe it.
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It's funny how /u/ is supposedly tired of generic shit but whenever something non-generic happens you all sperg out. Also you all love literal het yuribait way more than any actual yuri series.
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>>3468397
It's not generic is not a defense for shitty writing shitting on the story and making everything pointless
If they can't do something that isn't generic without ruining everything, a generic ending is better. Not that I've ever complained about generic stuff. Don't recall liking hetshit yuribait like hetphonium either
So, stop the strawmanning.
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>>3468304
>>3468308
>>3468324
>>3468379
>>3468313
>>3468275
>>3468272
>>3468269
>>3468237
>>3468201
>>3468377
All the same anon.
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>>3468397
But girls separating after high school is a lot more generic ending than girls ending together after high school. You speak like there's a lot of animated yuri works out there.
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>>3468398
This one too.
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>>3468402
Close, try again.
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>>3468406
Oh well, 10 out of 11 ain't bad.
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>>3467498
Not surprising knowing that tue movie was about graduation but, this is really the epilogue?, the Kaoruko in Kyoto thing was in the trailer so I don't think it will be part of the epilogue. Even then I will be happy is the end is more a "we need to develop as people before meeting again" thing than a "we need to grow out our high schooldays and illusions", and wtf with the "unknown" Karen thing?, we have another weird Simoun-like ending here?
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>>3468456
Pretty sure the open end for Karen is to make a cashgrab later on about the whole thing. This is why I'm not so pessimistic about it.
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>>3468331
Kuro states up front right at the beginning that she's headed for France, there's a conversation with Mahiru where Mahiru is like "you're going to France, huh" and she replies "I suppose it's more like going back to France." Kuro's always seen France as her home and her mom is in showbiz there, it would be even more out of character for her not to go back.

You seem like you haven't gotten caught up with recent developments if you believe Kuro is "obsessed" with Maya to the point of letting their rivalry keep her in Japan. During their revue they acknowledge that they're what pushes each other to do better, and still want to compete with each other again and again. It's not some sort of zero-sum one and done situation.
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>>3468456
Did you read the Seishou entry applications that were in the pamphlets/booklets for the first movie? Kaoruko was slated to be officially titled as a Senkaryuu master when she turns 18.
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>>3468482
And where the hell do these "recent developments" come from? The mobage? Because that's like a completely different story.
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>>3468468
If those spoilers are right then I guess we will get a continuation because the trailer make it seems like that is the main conflicto to be resolved more than anything. The other option is that those spoilers are from the middle of the movie, until now nobody said that this really was the epilogue of the movie, it just seems to be something made by a troll
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>>3468490
Yes but the way it was showed in the trailer seems to be part of a ongoing conflict more than part of a epilogue.
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>>3468494
The spoilers I've seen are mostly to do with the revues in the movie like Nana 1v6ing her friends on the train journey or stuff like the giraffe's death. But what the supposed spoiler post upthread said is in line with the characters' stated future plans so I wouldn't discount it entirely, although Karen is shown participating in an audition (not in the Twilight Theater) and that is hardly something one wouldn't notice.
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>>3468482
Everything you said is right as long as you regard their relationship as a rivalry and nothing more, that's my issue. It's a dead end yuri wise.
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>>3468518
Maybe, but we know from the trailer, and other sources, that the movie is about the graduation of the girls and the wsy the trailer shows most of it seems to be that those spoilers are part of the main conflict rather than part of a happy ending, or at leats that is the way they showed us those scenes in the trailer.
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>>3468552
The ending isn't even something set in the distant future (like Digimon 02 as an above anon was trying to compare it to). The second movie takes place a year after the auditions in the anime/first movie, in May. If there is an ending depicting the what the characters are up to after high school, it's going to be a handful of years rather than a dozen.

The way some anons are going on you'd think life instantly terminates the second a person graduates from high school.
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>>3468554
The life of fictional characters you'll probably never hear from again, probably does end after high school, yes. Considering they're all going their separate ways to find work in local theaters of places far away from each other, there's just 0 reason to be interested in what happens after. Nobody bothered to stay together.
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>>3468554
My main problem is the way some of those moments are depicted in the trailer, I get that the entire movie is about the graduation of the girls and the drama that comes from that but, at least.in Kaoruko case, it seems to be part of the main conflict rather than being part of the epilogue, like that anon said it seems more to be like that there is a way to a sequel more than a definitive ending, thay if thise spoilers aren't s half-thrut, like is something that happens in the movie but we don't know what part of the movie it is or the context of that, like I've wrote for me it will be enough if the ending isn't just a generic "we need to grow out our teenage days" type.of ending.
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>>3468561
Do you need an ambulance?
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>>3468561
>My main problem is the way some of those moments are depicted in the trailer
Okay I decided to watch the trailer just to see what you were talking about and I don't really see where you are coming from. Leaving aside whether the spoilers are true or not, there is nothing in the trailers that suggests Kaoruko is in Kyoto.
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>>3468569
Maybe the part where Kaoruko is depicted wearing kimono, if we stretch it and assume kimono - traditional - Kaoruko returning to the family business.

That part is from the FutaKao revue, for the avoidance of doubt. The part with Futaba on the truck, too.
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>>3468569
I thought thay is the case because Kaoruko have the same clothes and hairstyle of a traditional japanese adult women, the only thing I did not know was how much time have passed to get to that scene.
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>>3468577
>>3468579
Yeah that scene is preceded by Junna with military outfit and Mahiru playing baseball so I don't know why you'd think just Kaoruko's wasn't part of a revue.
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>>3468582
It's the first time I seem that type of hairstyle not being used by an actual adult japanese women in any anime.
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>>3467498
Wow smart
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>>3468550
Exactly, in the end, all the fuss about being each other's light didn't amount to anything /u/wise, maybe it truly was an animation mistake
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>>3468618
Maybe it was meant to symbolize that they need each other for personal growth and not that they wanna fuck the shit out of each other? Are you guys this unironically braindead?
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>>3468550
>>3468618
Samefag, and falseflagger to boot.
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>>3468620
>you're braindead for wanting yuri and not liking an ending mocking yuri fans
>says this in the yuri board
Fuck off, crossboarder. Movie and ending are shit. Deal with it, shill
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>>3468402
Wow.
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>>3468651
Ah, you must be one of those "my otp didn't kiss so i declare this show bait" types.
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>>3468620
>Maybe it was meant to symbolize that they need each other for personal growth and not that they wanna fuck the shit out of each other?
So, an especially yuri-friendly series is turned into this, and you're surprised people here hate that?
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If there is something to learn from the Starlight movie is that the highschool setting will always have this type of problems with any subtextual ships on a more serious series or franchise. You can't have a lot of characters with their own goals and strong personalities and expect to have them together after their graduation without a strong reason like textual romantic feelings or at least a promise to reunite in the future. Some anon mentioned Nanoha but series line Show By Rock doesn't have that "graduation" problem because the girls are professional musicians and they are basically working adults in universe, the same thing is true in action anime with subtext like Azur Lane or SOL anime like New Game.
Tl dr: The school setting is the main reason for that epilogue.
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>>3468659
>Tl dr: The school setting is the main reason for that epilogue.
Oh no anon, they don't get away with this excuse.
If you want to write the girls staying together there are infinite possibilities to do so as they graduate from high school, even if they come from different planets or something.
They just baited everyone with borderline yuri content and then raised a huge middle-finger at the end.
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>>3468657
I don't need a kiss. I only need the show to at least keep the delusion of maybe it could be yuri instead of breaking it and making everything pointless. Might as well say Karen got into an accident, was comatose and dreamed the whole show and movie
Other shows have managed to do it, so there's no excuse for Starlight's failure.
Not like wanting maintext yuri with kiss is bad. Bushi allowed it for Hina Logi, so "bushi doesn't want maintext yuri" is false
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>>3468660
You forgot to read this
>You can't have a lot of characters with their own goals and strong personalities and expect to have them together after their graduation without a strong reason like textual romantic feelings or at least a promise to reunite in the future.
The main problem is the serious tone of the series and the decision to make the movie about graduation. The series, and even the mobage, can be easily rewrited changing the setting from a school to a theather company but the high school setting seems to be a ssfe beat for Bushiroad
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>>3468659
I mentioned Nanoha. Where the school setting wasn't a problem. There's also Akanesasu Shojo. Candy Boy also had the twins go to the same college and share a dorm room
Starlight has 0 excuse
>>3468662
So, the problem isn't muh school setting, but the writers being hacks and cowards and making the wrong choices on what kind of show it should be and what the movie should be about
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>>3468662
>without a strong reason like textual romantic feelings or at least a promise to reunite in the future
And who exactly decided not to give them either of those? Is it also because of high school? I think not.
And a strong bond that can still be interpreted as friendship with mental gymnastics, like the one those girls had, can, and should, prompt the pairings to stay together and strive to achieve their personal goals that way, otherwise it's just made retroactively shallower than it was portrayed in the series, because it's not even a priority for them anymore.
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If Maya learned French, what was it for?
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>>3468657
They literally broke every pair and didn't even bother to throw us a bone (jesus, just give me a few frames of FutaKao, MayaKuro, etc meeting as adults)
And I'm not sure if starlight was bait or cowardice, but being the less idol-like franchise, with girls only sessions for the stage plays, I expected more of them.
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>>3468668
The problem is that we don't know the details of the movie, maybe there is someting like that in the movie but we don't know. I'm going to see the reactions of MayaKuro artists the next days and if they are inspired or dissaponted with the movie then I will decide if I will watch it the next year or just ignore it like Nanoha Force
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>>3468679
So people like us could fantasize about her and Kuro staying together in the future, before having our hopes and dreams mercilessly crushed at the end, apparently.
But you know, it may not necessarily have happened because of waifu-faggotry/homophobia, even in actual love stories there's people who are into bittersweet endings where the couple is divided by circumstances or something.
Of course it doesn't fit the hopeful tone of this series at all, but I bet there's someone out there who honestly thinks this was a satisfying storytelling decision.
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Have you guys even saw the movie or just being hysterical over nothing?
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>>3468698
>>3468304
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>>3468698
If the spoiler is the truth, the the show and movie are made pointless and watching the movie is a literal waste of time. The only way for the movie to not be pointless is for that spoiler to be completely false
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>>3468693
>So people like us could fantasize about her and Kuro staying together in the future, before having our hopes and dreams mercilessly crushed at the end, apparently.

Yeah.
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>>3468684
They may use the same ending like the movie
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>>3468693
>even in actual love stories there's people who are into bittersweet endings where the couple is divided by circumstances or something.
From what I'm reading, people (fans, yuri enthusiast) are mostly gushing about cool scenes or lines while conveniently omitting the break up, to me it seems like they don't want to hate starlight so they're just cherry picking the good parts
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>>3468705
What spoiler? The one on >>3467498?
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>>3468712
You know how this works, negation is the first part.
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>>3468715
Yes
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>>3468727
That's about as informative as saying "Yuu and Touko graduates but lives separately" for Yagakimi. Technically true, but omits a lot of detail.
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>>3468733
As far as I know, there are no nuances to save it other than "they stay in contact", which I can't even confirm.
You're supposed to accept it and move on.
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Someone on /a/ gave it a more hopeful spin:

>>>/a/223501935

I've been jumping to conclusions, but maybe >>3468733 is right, the spoiler people have been too stingy with words so far, perhaps we don't get the whole story yet.
If, for instance, everyone who's gone off to university is implied to want to join their beloved again as soon as they're done, even that ending could be salvaged.
Let's hope someone actually spends more than 30 seconds typing a summary soon enough.
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Hialrious how Manaria Friends having a similar ending killed it forever, but there's still a delusional defense force for Starlight. Accept it. Starlight shat the bed in the end and it's all pointless now
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>>3468749
At least MF gives you the benefit of the doubt and doesn't actually show them separating, meaning that it could also not happen.
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>>3468749
Manaria Friends was fine, could’ve been better with the ending but it was definitely fine
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>>3468746
>If, for instance, everyone who's gone off to university is implied to want to join their beloved again as soon as they're done
I could live with that, as long as they're not subtexty about it and clearly state it.
I still think that EVERY butai going their own way is retarded, but hey.
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>>3468749
The ending killed MF forever only in the minds of idiots ignoring them continuing being gay in every other piece of canon
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>>3468746
Spoilerfags in /a/ refuse to elaborate. Sounds like the whole they'll meet again thing is headcanon and truth is the ending is garbage. Sounds like the movie really has a garbage ending making everything pointless
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>>3468786
Not really, the implications of the spoiled parts so far indicate that both Futaba/Kaoruko and Claudine/Maya have explicit plans to get together again after they've honed themselves on their own.
I'd be surprised if the others aren't at least hinted to as well.
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>>3468786
Guess that settles it:

>>>/a/223510637
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After reading the spoilers I can see FutaKao as the saving grace of the movie, even if it's just innuendo, they still want to stand with each other
>>3468787
>Claudine/Maya have explicit plans to get together
Maybe I missed this?
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>>3468788
"Meet on stage" is super vague, like sure they could work together as adults in the future, but there's nothing inherently intimate about that
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>>3468790
Well, let's be honest, there was never anything "inherently intimate" in the original series either, they made sure of that, even though they came as close as they possibly could without committing.
At least the ending of the movie doesn't seem to rule out the possibility as I had initially feared, as long as their futures involve meeting again you can still picture them being romantically involved, which is the most we could've reasonably expected from a subtext anime.
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>>3468788
Hikari sure is lucky to have Nana with her in England, she is too autistic to survive without someone cooking for her, how she survived until now is a mistery for me
>>3468791
All of them are "butai baka" so we know what is the real meaning of those words
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>>3468061 here. Just got home from watching the movie.

I have literally no idea what the fuck did I just watch.
Like, I literally cannot follow the story at all.
Is my Jap just not good enough for this?
Do the Japs understand it? Or am I just dumb?

I'll be honest here. I'm not the biggest Starlight fan here. The last time I watched the anime was when it first aired years ago. I rewatched the last few episodes and the compilation movie yesterday as preparation for this though.

But the movie was just on another level of clusterfuck.
I don't get wht Hikari drop out and go back to London at the start.
I don't get the characters' motivation for going wherever they're going after graduation.
I don't get the reason why the pairs fight with each other.
I don't get why Mahiru fucking gave Hikari a gold medal and just gave up on Karen.
What the fuck does all the fruit/tomatoes supposed to mean?

The credits scene everyone's mad about doesn't even bother me that much. Maybe because I already know about it, but eh.
Everything else about the movie does though.

Also, the credits song sounds inexplicably cheerful. It actually sounds a lot like Neo Sky Neo Map for some reason.

My brain is just entirely mush right now.
Ask my anything, I guess.
Can't guarantee that I can actually answer them though.
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>>3468796
Were you left with the impression that the various couples' separation in the end is a permanent or temporary deal?
If you didn't get it because of the confusion please just say so.
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>>3468792
>here was never anything "inherently intimate" in the original series either
Eh, having oooh fly me to the star duets in almost every episode felt really personal to me.
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>>3468796
>What the fuck does all the fruit/tomatoes supposed to mean?
I imagine it represents the traditional way spectators used to show disapproval for what's happening on the stage, throwing vegetables at it.
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>>3468796
This is a show that relies a lot in symbolism, and also the lyrics of the songs themselves (like Symphogear on the lyrics part, but even more), so I'd guess confusion can come from Starlight anime being Ikuhara lite, and the fact your japanese is not good enough.
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>>3468798
And to me as well, but "felt" is the key-word there; from what I've read so far, the movie also feels like you're watching romantically involved pairs as much as in the original, without anything explicitly confirming/denying it.
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Shallow promises of meeting again are what all good school friends do, not sure why anyone would get hopeful again just because of that. They're moving very far away to homelands/etc, why would they just go back again after a few years? If that was the case they could've just gone for local colleges, or atleast have gone together to those places.
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>>3468797
I did catch MayaKuro and NanaJunna say something along the lines like "let's meet again on stage" at the end of their respective revues..
I don't know why they said that (and why did they fight in the first place), but they did.

>>3468799
But why did the girls eat them? Did they have to eat them to be in the "wild-screen baroque"?

What the heck is a "wild-screen baroque" anyway?

>>3468800
I can watch the anime without subtitles just fine though.
The movie is just near non-stop Revues and flashbacks to Karen's past. Maybe that's why.
There's next to no "real world present day" scenes except for some in the beginning and the credits scene.
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>>3468803
Because they are stubborn and ambitious characters? We aren't talking about your average moeblobs here.
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>>3468796
What happens to Karen?
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>>3468698
It's obviously just one guy sperging, as evident from the repetitive posts saying the same thing and using the same word choice over and over again.
He's either mentally ill, or a concern troll.
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>>3468803
Look, if it were up to me, I'd have had them all move in together even at the cost of renouncing the choices they considered to be best for their individual careers, but I digress.
Having them both pursue their own ideals and promise to get back together afterwards is a reasonable compromise, at least it's not the "they closed this chapter of their lives and parted ways forever" I had initially imagined when reading the first spoilers, so there's that.
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>>3468807
What about being stubborn and ambitious stop you from atleast going to the same college as the one you love(it's just confirming they don't love each other)? It's not like any of those girls seems to be aiming for some shitty backwater instituition, it's all top places from several regions, and you have stuff like Nana and Hikari going to the same place, so why couldn't Maya go to the same one as Claudine if she learned french? That's because this kind of thinking just wasn't something they were worrying about.
So the ending is fine as long as you don't care about yuri, I believe most here agree with this sentiment.
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>>3468803
> If that was the case they could've just gone for local colleges, or atleast have gone together to those places.
The whole point is that each has their own goals, and teather is a world where you can't settle for local unis if you're aiming for the top
So, depending on said goals, being geographically separated is inevitable. Promising to meet again is the best they can do. They all have different paths and routes to follow in the world of theater, and promising to meet again means they care about each other even if they have to go their own ways for now to pursue their desired futures
As has been said, it's the best that can be expected from subtext. I'd like it to go maintext, but at least the anime side of Starlight has been subtext from the start, so I wasn't expecting the movie to be different
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>>3468808
In the after credits scene, she's shown taking an audition for something.
She's the only one not in the "where are they now" credits roll by the way.

Oh yeah, in the movie viewing that I watched, there's a 30-minute bonus talk show thing with the seiyuus discussing the movie.

One of them (I think it's Junna's VA) said that seeing Karen taking that audition in the ending reminds her of her own audition for Starlight 4 years ago.

Also Maya's VA (I think) said that she remembers feeling like she didn't know what to think after watching the whole movie for the first time.
That's actually my current mood right now.

Actually the bonus talk show thing is the thing that I understand the most about the movie.
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>>3468067
Futaba only counts as half a girlfriend.
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>>3468813
>so why couldn't Maya go to the same one as Claudine if she learned french?
Because she has no real business in France or Europe.in general?, even if we had a maintext confession its makes no sense for Maya to follow Claudine to another continent, they have their own goals and things to do and a important part of romantic.relationships is to support your lover in their personal goals
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>>3468830
Yeah, sure, they wouldn't be able to make it through in any region with their skills, and they wouldn't have any connection that could have helped make it through somewhere else, right? Not like they would be going with someone.
Considering Claudine got the offer supposedly because of their plays, the company must have no idea who Maya is.
Just accept that this is confirmation it's nothing more than subtext.
And a important part of a romantic relationship certainly would be that, but being together outweights that a hundred times.
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>>3468833
>this is confirmation it's nothing more than subtext.
Did you expect anything else? The show is subtext. When's the last time a subtext story went maintext in a continuation?
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>>3468833
>Just accept that this is confirmation it's nothing more than subtext
I guess we all knew this at this point. But even then we are talking about various characters with very strong personalities different goals and some with global connections.
>And a important part of a romantic relationship certainly would be that, but being together outweights that a hundred times.
Isn't that how toxic relationships work?, doing our own thing is a important way of growing as adults, unless you have little to no ambition or you can pursue your goal anywhere in the world.
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>>3468836
And a lot of people here liked it because it was one of the subtext works that got closest to going maintext, now that it's certain it's not going there, most are disappointed.
That's it, I suppose the thread can go back to posting delusions now.
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>>3468838
>Isn't that how toxic relationships work?
If you consider almost every romantic relationship out there toxic. Many have to give up on something to have a steady relationship, nevermind childcare.
And sadly, becoming a big theater star sounds like a goal you could pursue anywhere in the world, especially close to another theater star, so I really don't think this one would even pass as having to give up on your dream to stay with your loved one.
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>>3468840
People here liked it when it was just the TV show, stage plays mobage and manga, none of them maintext. Yeah, prety close to maintext, but still subtext and people liked it even when the anime finished remaining subtext I dunno why you expected the movie to be maintext or why that should matter to people who liked the anime when it was just the finished subtext TV show.
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>>3468845
Because this is more likely to be the end of those girl's stories, unless they pull a timeskip continuation, this is it.
I don't know what the fuck you're doing on /u/ if you don't give a single shit about things going maintext.
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>>3468749
You do realise you just gave yourself away with this post, right?
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To me, now it seems as if they care more about themselves and being "number one" than about each other.

Speaking as someone who's honestly not that ambitious, their motivations now seem too esoteric and hard to relate.
Why do all of them want to be "number one" that badly? It makes it feel as if the characters are more "pretentious" rather than "strong-willed".

Feel free to correct or shit on what I just wrote. I'm not an expert on this franchise.
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>>3468848
Anon, let's be realistic, a maintext continuation was never in the cards to begin with.
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>>3468848
I'd like it to go maintext, but I had no hope of it. When the anime was over, people liked it as subtext with nothing more to it, as the final chapter of the story. The movie continuation wasn't a guarantee. It was announced and I dunno why people expected it to be maintext.
I can understand why people want maintext, but what you want is not always what you should expect. For me, Starlight was never an story for maintext. If they wanted a maintext story, the TV show, stage plays, manga, mobage was their chance. That they didn't means a final chapter movie was never gonna be maintext, regardless of what I want
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>>3468849
Gave myself away as what, exactly?
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>>3468845
>prety close to maintext, but still subtext
Precisely because of that, I think some us expected that last step towards full maintext, at least for some of the pairs, but all we got instead was "welp see you around, ma Claudine" and in Junjun's case it feels even more random to travel to fucking New York
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>>3468851
>Why do all of them want to be "number one" that badly?
Because they are stage girls.
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>>3468853
There's always a slight chance of things going maintext.
But this also shits on headcanons as well, since it's already on canon that the girls separate. One of the things about subtext stories is that they usually have a ending open for just imagining that the girls got together, here you'd have to do some serious gymnastics just to delude yourself the girls are just going their own ways for a little and then run to each other's embrace a few years later.
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>>3468844
Maybe for our mediocre 3d asses, but here we are talking about characters with strong personalities, this is not different from the IsukexHaruki couple of Akuma no Riddle and they just had some maintext attraction to justify it.
>>3468851
That was the entire point of what really is a butai shoujo, in yhe mobage is stablished that the girls from Sheisho are some of most obsessed with theather so this is no big surprise for anyone that followed the franchise, but the movie really is pushing the limits of subtext but in the other way.
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>>3468862
Actually this is a very good scenario for fanworks. The girls are too focused on their careers to bend over social pressure to get to the het route and now we have a oportunity to make better headcanons but with them as adults.
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>>3468862
>There's always a slight chance of things going maintext.
Give me 3 examples of anime continuations that turned a subtext series into a maintext one.

>delude yourself the girls are just going their own ways for a little and then run to each other's embrace a few years later
But that's pretty much what's stated in the movie.
Now, don't get me wrong, I would've preferred a "together forever" ending for everyone too, but the epilogue is as open as they get, there's nothing contradicting any romantic wishful thinking, just like there's nothing confirming it, as usual.
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>>3468867
As working adults that chose their work over the other girls. There will always be a ridiculous leap of logic for them to decide to quit their job or something of the like just to stay together after this. I don't see how this is good at all.
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>>3468869
> and then run to each other's embrace a few years later
>But that's pretty much what's stated in the movie.
"We'll meet at the stage again" Is a fucking long shot from that? at best it's expecting to meet again over work.
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>>3468870
Anon, the pople that write fanfics or draw fanarts and doujins love those type of soap opera like scenarios.
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>>3468873
How is it a soap opera like scenario? actually thinking on quitting their job? It would make no sense. Even when they were younger they decided on work over a supposed love, so why would they go back on that after turning into working adults? A soap opera scenario is usually the opposite, where a character see the mistake of trying to stay together when they reach adulthood.
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>>3468871
Anon, it it was literally stated your way it wouldn't be subtext anymore, that's where the "wishful thinking" part comes into play.
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>>3468851
>Why do all of them want to be "number one" that badly?
Maybe I completely misunderstood the story of the anime, but I thought bakaren was *fighting* against the Top Star dogma and stealing the spotlight from one another, so ALL OF THEM could play together.
Maybe we were both wrong, I don't know, all these excuses don't make sense to me.
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>>3468859
As the Manaria-obsessed troll, who has been constantly shitposting about it since it aired.
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>>3468861
>>3468864
But I swear that in the anime they each had at least some other, more relatable motivations.

In the movie, all of their motivations fell flat or just not make any sense at all to me.
I don't know how much of them were hidden in the lyrics though. But at least in the anime, there are character development outside of the songs.
The movie felt like Rondo Rondo Rondo if you didn't watch the anime, but worse.
Only Karen got some (somewhat comprehensible) character development via the flashbacks.
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>>3468877
Honestly, It's been some time since I watched the anime, but I do remember the plot being exactly that, we're currently only discussing about the separation, but the movie plot so far really seems to just go to the complete opposite idea of Karen's resolve. I'm not surprised she just seems to be sad and depressed in this movie, I really feel like the movie is nothing but a coming of age story, which makes things worse.
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>>3468875
You clearly did not watched korean dramas with your mother but that's how it works in thise type of overly dramatic series, there is a little introduction some years in the past just to follow to the main, and most dramatic, middle part when everyone is a adult and needs to balance their professional and personal goals withe their romantic feelings.
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>>3468879
Who? Are you going ACK and making up a person who doesn't exist like ACK did with !Akemi?
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>>3468877
Yeah. I also thought that fighting fate and being the top -with- Hikari was Karen's main motivation in the anime.

In the movie, Karen's just like:
"Hikari left. I feel nothing."
And then after her and Hikari's revue in the end, she's like
"I need to make/find my own stage".


>>3468882
Oh yeah I forgot to mention this.
In the very beginning, either Hikari or the giraffe explicitly said that this (the movie) will be about seperation.
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>>3468879
I'm fairly sure there's more than one person that uses Manaria Friends as an example of a work that got shit on for little reason.
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>>3468886
>In the movie, Karen's just like:
>"Hikari left. I feel nothing."
>And then after her and Hikari's revue in the end, she's like
>"I need to make/find my own stage".
Yeah, the movie seems to directly oppose the idea that the girls love each other. It's all about finding your own individual goal.
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I think I'll wait and judge the movie when I can watch it. That said, if it's as bad as people say, they really shat the bed and ruined all of Starlight. Why would they?
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Credit where credit's due though, the visuals, music, voice acting, and choreography were top notch amazing.
Probably one of the best looking and sounding anime movies I've ever watched.

The story though..., I really just don't get it.
And from what I did get, I don't like it that much.
And they definitely did went overboard with the Ikuhara-ness.
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>>3468884
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2840891/#3038188
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2890498/#2951066
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2990577/#2995784
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2990323/#2991456
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2984667/#2987887
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2935911/#2942089
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2890498/#2894635
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2849549/#2866984
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2869336/#2870147
https://archived.moe/u/thread/2863821/#2864157

>>3468887
The posting style fits.
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>>3468746
Honestly those spoilers sound incredible. I'm not even mad anymore. Holy shit.
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>>3468902
First post is already wrong. Never posted in Urara threads as I never watched that show
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Also, that shitposter hates Manaria. I like it. I was just pointing out that shitting on Manaria but defending this Starlight movie is a double standard and literal hypocrisy
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>>3468877
No, you're right, but this anime might actually be more Ikuhara than what we initially thought. Karen and Nana both fight against the reality of the situation. Karen fights for an ideal stage where she stands with Hikari (and potentially the others) without having to go through the pain of rabid competition and cutting each others' throats for the spotlight, while Nana fights against the reality of separation and that everyone has different hopes and dreams they want to achieve but that the road to reach them will definitely be painful.

At the end what Karen and Nana were fighting against becomes true. At the end they cannot change the system. At the end each one of them will go their own way and fight to become the best, and when they see each other again on stage they will fight for the spotlight. At the end it all seems to be pointless because the main motivations of the plot didn't come true, but the characters gained immense growth in going through this process, and that's very Ikuhara.

Honestly mad respect for this Furukawa dude for being able to pull and Ikuhara in what seemed to be a mere CGDCT show at the beginning, which is a shame because most people won't get into this precisely because they think it looks CGDCT and idol-ish. Their loss.
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>>3468909
It's also not yuri so you can save your praises to /a/.
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>>3468911
FutaKao had sex on screen so your argument is invalid.
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>>3468911
Is it? The only reports we have are the /a/ dude, and on here someone who isn't invested in the frachise and has admitted to not understanding the movie. Yuri, like het, should be allowed stories that don't end happy
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>>3468909
I don't think this is much about they doing it consciously but mostly about them forgetting the plot of the main series after doing some parts of the mobage story, we know who writed the script for the movie?, because I feel that, thematically, this movie makes more sense as a adaptation of the Sheisho from the mobage than a actual continuation of the main series.
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>>3468917
Most of the stories in the mobage aren't written by the main team. And I assure you it was on purpose since the director is an Ikuhara apprentice.
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>>3468909
>Nothing you do matters
>All your actions to change the shitty status quo are doomed to fail
>At least you can fuck a cute girl in a meantime
Such a deep message. No wonder that people think Ikuhara is genius.
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>>3468925
Well, it's very attached to reality, that's why I think some people like his stories. I do understand the sentiment of wanting fiction to be detached from reality though.
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>>3468929
I don't think that believing in some form of doomerism is being attached to reality
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>>3468936
I don't think saying individuals aren't superheroes who can change status quo to match their will is all that doomer
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>>3468936
I don't know dude, in my country people who try to change things get outright murdered.
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>>3468913
I'll be waiting for the screencaps.
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>>3468940
But believing that you can achieve any real change (that isn't even that major) only by sacrificing yourself is.
No matter what "immerse growth" they gained, they're still in the same shitty system.
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>>3468943
Trying to change things is difficult, but watching Chinese cartoons that say the revolution is impossible only discourages from even trying.
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>>3468946
>they're still in the same shitty system
Yeah, but now most of them know what they want and in a way they have moved on from what was holding them down, even if what awaits them in the future might be painful they need to keep growing, which is ultimately the real message of Starlight. It's a simple message, but personally I like it. Maybe you should watch some shounen if you want something more "power of friendship" and hero-ish stuff.
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>>3468929
>>3468940
But the reality is that the status quo can and does change, even for normal people like us.
And these girls literally have superpowers.
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>>3468909
>At the end what Karen and Nana were fighting against becomes true. At the end they cannot change the system.
It's hopeless. It's all hopeless...
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>>3468951
Yeah but a drastic change doesn't come without a revolution, thus most changes come very gradually.
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>>3468950
>but now most of them know what they want
Which are what exactly?
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>>3468952
It really is. We should take Banana's advice and kill ourselves.
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>>3468951
Do they have them outside of the magical plays in the anime? Mobage, manga and plays do not count as it seems each are different interpretations of the universe and characters with different rules of how they work
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>>3468956
Read the spoilers.
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>>3468936
It's the japanese reality something totally oppossed from what the western hemisphere in general is living right now so I get why the movie doesn't seem to be "realist" for us.
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>>3468963
It IS a reality for us but the western world has cultivated this mindset of "You can achieve whatever you want if you try hard enough" which is not true even within our system. Asia in general, specially boomers, absolutely do not support this mindset but it has become popular amongst young people due to western influence.
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>>3468963
Most Japanese works are actually way more idealistic than the average Western works.
This is just Ikuharaism.
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>>3468965
>This is just Ikuharaism.
Ikuharaism is just being realistic?
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>>3468964
The entire western hemisphere, from south to north is living, right now, a lot of changes, some are good in some places some are bad in other places but there is a lot of change going on, so a movie about growing and living inside a decaying system is not something that we can really find "realist" right now.
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>>3468966
No. Ikuharaism is being pessimistic in a dumb and pretentious way.
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Aww yeah I missed the shitfest theads. This must mean the movie was good.
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>>3468971
All his endings have this "light at the end of the tunnel" kind of thing though.
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>>3468972
>banana
>would never stab anyone
My, how things have changed.
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>>3468970
The entire world, including Japan, is changing fast right now. Not just in the west.
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>>3468972
>Bisexual shit
Kill yourself
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>>3468962
Would be helpful if you can summarize them for us.
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>>3468975
Then is worse but I guess nobody expected that the pandemic will begin so many changes so fast.
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>>3468963
>>3468964
If anything I think the western "reality" is more sinister since it presents the illusion of changing things while not actually changing anything. The system is so powerful that it has coopted methods to resist it. At least the asian mentality is brutally honest about it.
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If the changes happen due to a deadly pandemic, the point remains it's not in the hand of individuals to execute change
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>>3468981
>>3468985
I don't want this to devolve into politics but that's how the general western populatuons feels right now so the movie does not feels "real" for us, does not matter why or how but things are like that right now.
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>>3468978
As far as I understood
>hikari goes back to bongland because she doesn't want to be held back by seisho just because karen is there (doesn't want to be held back by karen either)
>junna understands she's not as good as everyone else and decides do improve her knowledge by studying literature in a prestigious uni that has a theater troupe
>kaoruko needs to let go of futaba and allow her to go her own path
>futaba wants to stand alongside kaoruko instead of chasing behind her and that's why she wants to go to a prestigious theater uni in japan
>mahiru's pretty much got solved in the tv series but she makes hikari understand that she shouldn't be held back by karen just like she was, also goes to the same uni as futaba because she wants to shine on her own
>karen is unknown but is shown having an audition
And I forgot and/or wasn't really specified the motivations for Claudine/Maya/Banana.
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>>3468985
So it's in the hands of arbitrary concepts and rules that makes no sense like "destiny"? That doesn't sound realistic.
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>>3468886
>In the very beginning, either Hikari or the giraffe explicitly said that this (the movie) will be about seperation.
Well, that makes things easier, I can only interpret that as a fuck yo/u/
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>>3468987
Why do all of their motivations sound samey?
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>>3468993
Because is just a lazy excuse to separate them.
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>>3468993
Because all of them have a similar objective, if this was a racing anime that fact will be something more easy to understand. That's the problem of doing a movie about the graduation of nine girls obsessed with a field of art.
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It's more revue than starlight
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>>3468993
Because all of them are actresses? It's like complaining that the characters in a sport anime go to play on different teams after graduation.
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>>3468997
>>3469002
They all used to have more varying and personal motivations than those.
Now they're all just variants of "I wanna be the best" or "You have to be the best" without much else. It feels kinda lame.
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>>3468986
The west is no hivemind. You don't get to decide if it feels real or not for all the west
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>>3468987
The only one we can even dream of being /u/ is futakao now, who would have thought.
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>>3468987
Jesus, sounds like a real middle finger to /u/. And people bitched about Sympho XV. This is so much worse. This movie is indeed a mistake
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>>3469009
>>3469011
I hope you guys never have a partner who wants to be something in life.
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>>3469006
Sadly Starmight wasn't made for that type of story and the secind mivue was more like a cashgrab were Bushiroad give the director and scriptwriters too much artistic liberty, ironically a serious "graduation" movie about the Love Live girls will be more fitting like how the MariKananDia trio was managed in LL Sunshine.
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>>3469013
I'd be more than happy if my lover wanted to be something,as long as it's not something in fucking continents away from me.
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>>3469013
This is fiction. Muh realism and personal goals don't change that this fails even as subtext. The characters aren't real. Writer prioritised their deep message and shit about ambition and realism over their bonds. So to anyone in this board, this is a shit movie. It's only better than literal hetshit like hetphonium. Even Dragon Maid with the shotashit and futashit is better. At least Kobayashi/Tohru and Kanna/Saikawa won't be separated until Kobayashi and Kanna die, but separation by death is the same destiny for the shotashit couples, given dragons and ex-goddess live longer than humans
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>>3469015
Reminder that HasuMedo had Huskey study in bongland no problem for several years.
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>>3469020
They were also already in a relationship, not just thinking about being the very best like no one ever was.
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>>3468909
I frankly do not understand their obsession with screwing over Karen the protagonist and making Hikari an unlikeable cunt of a deuteragonist whose problem is always fucking lack of communication, one of the worst media tropes to create drama ever. It's utterly ridiculous that the inspirational Karen who helped everyone become better and fought to change the system (approved by kirin too by tye end) in the anime is now treated like garbage and that all her efforts were eventually in vain. It's funny to hate on the dog I get it but what is the point of the anime if they're just gonna fuck all over its messages?
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>>3469023
Well since the beginning we have known that Starlight isn't hard yuri, but I fail to see how them separating to grow as professionals and then reuniting again somehow prevents you from seeing it as yuri anymore.
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>>3469013
The biggest problem is that they don't hsve specific objectives like "I want to be the best theather actress of France/Japan/Asia/the world" so there is not a real reason for some characters like Claudine or Nana to be sepparated from Maya and Junna, actually in the case of Claudine the entire thing goes against her character because she is going to France were she will begin with some advantage thanks to her family instead of beginning from zero and making her own path with her own effort and talent.
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>>3469024
Lol if this makes you mad you should watch Utena.
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Their growth can be done together, but it makes them worse when their motivations are so simple and somewhat selfish
They don't know teamwork
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>>3469028
The reuniting again is just a promise like anyone would make to a generic friend, meeting on the stage again is what you'd say when you don't even expect to meet each other again. Literally only futakao seems to still be thinking on each other while also working towards the future.
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>>3469032
I did and I hated the anime but did enjoy the movie way more.
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>>3469028
The fact the entire movie is about ignoring the relationships and everyone going turbo selfish and developing the characters as individuals while ignoring their relationships.
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>>3469033
>They don't know teamwork
They absolutely do, it's just that if they want to succeed they also need to acknowledge each others as rivals, but they are still friends. Also I don't understand why are you all so pissed, cellphones exist in their universe so they will probably keep in touch somewhat.
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Holy shit, they managed to drag the franchise below the mess that is Assault Lily Bouquet anime. Bravo, retards.
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>>3467966
Yep. This is realism. Whatever the fuck they did in this movie, wasn't.
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>>3468987
>hikari goes back to bongland because she doesn't want to be held back by seisho just because karen is there (doesn't want to be held back by karen either)
Does Hikari REALLY just fucking ups and leaves to bongland without even giving Karen a heads-up? No way right?
They didn't go through all that drama and beating Maya/Kuro together in the anime for her to just throw Karen away immediately after the fucking deed?
This sounds so terrible /u/ wise. What the fuck happened with Mahiru that she's now treating Karen like a nuisance? I didn't really like Karen at all, but this feels almost too cruel considering she atleast put some real effort in the anime.
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>>3469044
In their fucking Starlight plays?
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>>3469049
True realistic art is pretentious angst and shitting on characters and their relationships, apparently
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>>3469053
Why was the post you replied to deleted?. It was just someone saying they saw no teamwork in the anime
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>>3469053
I'm not talking about stage plays, I'm talking about anime.
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>>3469061
He meant the Starlight plays within the anime.
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>>3469063
And I'm talking about the Starlight plays within the anime you dumbass.
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>>3469063
I'm talking about the revues, except episode 10
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>>3469067
Sorry, this anon is a retard
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>>3469024
>what is the point of the anime if they're just gonna fuck all over its messages?
It's a subversion of the original themes for the sake of subverting them. Karen's fight against the system was a critique of the Takarazuka revue and the cutthroat environment around becoming the top star. They spent half of the show on Karen and Hikari's promise to stand together on stage, and how that allowed them to overcome people like Kuro and Maya who fought solely to take the top star for themselves.
And now? They're just another group of Takarazuka actresses to add to the bunch, consumed by their ambition and personal growth, even Karen herself. Everything that happened in the anime revues and Karen's arc is meaningless because they'll just keep fighting for the top star spot of the next stage play regardless.
Someone doesn't make a twelve-episode anime, a movie, and several stage plays all centered around a theme, and then turns around and makes a finale that contradicts that theme unless they deliberately want to fuck with the audience. Subversion for the sake of subversion.
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>>3469085
>they deliberately want to fuck with the audience

That's why they made the movie.
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>>3469085
That's your brain on Ikuhara for you.
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>>3469091
Not solid evidence. Still look like a man posting hetshit fantasies to me
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>>3468987
>kaoruko needs to let go of futaba and allow her to go her own path
Why is she in Kyoto then?, wasn't her biggest problem that she dominated the Senka-ryu dance style being too young and then becoming a lazy overconfident actress?, why she will need to return to the only place were she can't learn new things?. The more details I notice the worst the movie seems to be.
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Bushi is obviously setting up a third movie with Karen's mystery audition at the end, and judging by the spoilers all the movie revues seem to support the main pairings except for Karen's, so why are people pretending its already over? They can easily make it so in college all the butais get a new phone call from kirin and then shit happens and they meet again, I mean its not like they showed them already adults or anything.
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>>3469117
It's over anon. The revues are meaningless nonsense in the face of muh ambition and muh harsh reality. Stop defending this garbage
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>>3469117
Karen's mystery audition at the end is far more likely to be just an open ending to show Karen's now trying to catch up with the rest.
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>>3469105
Can't believe Kaoruko set a handicap on herself as to not discourage Futaba, truly a fated couple
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>"starlight is a tragedy where the characters separate"
>seethe when starlight turns out to be a tragedy where the characters separate
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>>3469139
Regardless, it's still shit writing that goes against S1's point of fighting against the system to allow everyone to stay together even as they chase their futures. Trash movie
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Imagine defending this shit anti-yuri writing from the studio that did Shield Incel and Made in Pedo Edgy Abyss.
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>>3469149
Imagine thinking it's the studio the ones who write a series.
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>>3469152
You're still defending a garbage anti-yuri movie done by people who worked on shows for edgelord, pedos and incels.
The people who think these retards are trying to make 2deep4u "auteur" "true art" nonsense are retards
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>>3469122
I don't see any continuation being made in anime format though. There already was a general resolution for everyone except Karen
They can always make some new problems for the butais to deal with, like what they did in the second play after the anime where they started doubting themselves after being defeated, so in college they can show each of them struggling to achieve their dreams due to how hard it is compared to when they were students. Maybe even show them not in their top game cause they don't have a specific radiance(missing their partners) or just realizing that the stage they want isn't here and then they reunite.

>>3469126
Karen's always been presented as a dark horse that appears out of nowhere and somehow manages to do the unbelievable; Banana even points out before Hikari came Karen never even showed up in the previous time loop auditions cause she wasn't trying. Not to mention her constantly becoming "reborn", so her mystery audition is probably leading to her finding her own spark without Hikari and helping everyone when they again doubt themselves. I really doubt Bushi would make a franchise that leaves the protagonist doing something mysterious after the end credits and not leading up to something with it. That'd be really weird and pointless for them to do.

But then again this is all just conjecture, I'm still looking forward to the movie so I just may be more optimistic, I think if they did a third movie with the themes of reunion or rebirth it would be pretty cool though.
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>>3469139
>Karen: boy, don't you wish Flora and Claire could stay together, tragedies suck
>Karen: oh wow, we actually defeated those unmatched dykes, I guess we can overcome any difficulty together
>Hikari: nvm my planet needs me
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>this thread
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>>3469169
Pre-anime Mahiru stuff was all very cute.
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>>3469168
This is exactly why it's fucking stupid. Nana was at one point shown as the antagonist that had them stuck in a goddamn timeloop to prevent the worse from happening, and then Hikari manages to beat her through willpower and friendship, and after overcoming more obstacles together with Karen, including beating the two top contenders, and then Hikari is the first person to just jump ship and give a middle finger to Karen?
It's absolute nonsense.
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Nana only did one thing wrong, and that was losing. Clearly that was a huge mistake
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>>3469169
https://twitter.com/NoriNori0308/
>持田優奈(@mochida_yuna)が世界一
Oh no no, even the dyke squad changed their oshi and parted ways
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>>3469139
I mean, the moral of the movie is that it's not a tragedy to go your separate ways and forge a path of your own. Things change. You can't always be with your friends forever, but that doesn't mean you don't love them. You'll always be connected to them emotionally, even if you can't be with them physically. Venturing into an unknown future isn't as scary as it may seem, and it's healthier than trying to cling to the past.
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>>3469227
It just does not make a good argument for it. Hikari and Karen together did way better work than the two alone, they would've never been better than Maya/Claudine/Nana realistically otherwise, in such a short amount of time. Why is treading the path alone so necessary? Why is the separation so important? the "realism" is just forced down our throats.
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>>3469227
>and it's healthier than trying to cling to the past
You make it sound like keeping your friends around is a hindrance for your personal growth, it's not, you can have a successful future (professional, emotionally) with them at your side.
There was absolutely NO NEED for this movie to be about separation, the whole thing reeks of japanese self-flagellation, and a writer that somehow missed the theme of the anime.
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>>3469235
>You make it sound like keeping your friends around is a hindrance for your personal growth, it's not, you can have a successful future (professional, emotionally) with them at your side.

But what if what you want in life isn't what your friends want? That was Nana's problem in the movie. Thinking she knew better for Junna's future than Junna herself. All because Nana was afraid of what her life post-Seisho Music Academy would be and forcibly reliving what she believed to be the golden period of her life.
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>>3469251
And she was right, given the trash movie. Go anywhere else but here to defend anti-yuri garbage like this movie
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>>3469251
For all intents and purposes, Nana already came to peace with the idea of "moving forward" in the anime, I'm not even sure why they decided to bring that up AGAIN (other than to create a conflict between Junna and her)
And that's the movie in a nutshell, a flashy, sorry excuse to send the girls to different parts of the world and growing up without their partners.
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>>3469251
You are really reaching for reasons to excuse the writing of a shit movie. Why?
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I'm disappointed
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The movie is good, the ending is shit
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>>3468987
At least FutaKao
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>>3469297
"Good" is a stretch. The ending is really just the culmination of all the other problems that the movie has storywise.
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>>3469307
In other words, the movie fucked up the show.
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I just re-watched the whole series and it's good shit.
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Damn /u/ is retarded
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>>3469524
Why? Because I and others here don't blindly praise everything made by a pretentious hack who hates yuri and who you've decided is a "2deep4u auteur" who can do no wrong because he learned from Ikuhara and is Ikuhara lite?
Fuck off
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>>3469594
Holy shit. You really are retarded.
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>>3469603
Not her, but:
>The director is Ikuhara's protege
>The show is about the main character trying to change stuff
>The movie nullfiles all of her achievements to return to the status quo, which was described rather negatively on the show.
All objective facts.
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>>3469603
Stay mad, retard.
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HikaKaren sisters... we weren't the fated pairing after all...
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>>3469606
Shh, you're supposed to appreciate the non-stop revue action and cool lines, coherence and /u/ comes second
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>>3469626
If you actually cared about /u/, you wouldn't immediately jump to the worst case conclusions about the ending of a movie you have not seen. I think you are probably just a waifufag trying to drive off real yuri fans from your obsessions, because nothing you have said is consistent with somebody who truly loves this series and the /u/ pairings it has.
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>>3469642
Anyone who loves the show and the pairings, wouldn't bother with this shit movie that separates them and has them give into the hypercompetitive mindset and system that the show rejected. It's like Madoka going back to the witch system and making all the girls suddenly not care about each other
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>>3469662
You have not even watched the movie. From what I can see from the spoilers, the fights are not born from competition but out of the desire to communicate. Why are you even trying to stop people from finding out what the movie has to offer? Would it cause (you) and your narrative issues?
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>>3469642
>If you actually cared about /u/, you wouldn't immediately jump to the worst case conclusions about the ending
The ending itself is the worst case conclusion, and that's because going het (fortunately) wasn't an option, the future of the couples is completely uncertain.
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Was wondering, how many people here have played the mobage or read the story for it? I just started a week ago and it seems suprisingly well written while being more serious in tone than most of the mobage I have played.
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>The new Revue Starlight Movie Ranked 1st as "The Most Satisfactory Movie" in Filmarks' Weekly Ranking!

https://twitter.com/r_starlight_en/status/1401826573875965954
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>>3469667
And yet the conclusion is the girls they love hold them back and it's better to separate and affirm the system the show rejected
Fuck off with worshipping that hack just because he uses symbolism and learned from Ikuhara. Defense of this anti-yuri garbage doesn't belong here
I'd watch it to see if I'm right or wrong, but sadly I'm gaijin and can't ever go to anime movies if they ever get in cinemas in my 3rd world shithole, so gotta wait for BDs like a year
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>>3469674
Is there somewhere to read the story without playing the game?. I've never been a gacha person and all the gacha systems of materials, farming, level up and all that shit've always confuses me in Azur Lane, Sympho XDU and Honkai
Also, I hear even for gacha, the Starlight game isn't that great
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>>3469675
NOOOOOOO DELET THIS!
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>>3469675
Waifufags satisfied the girls separated so they're free for them. After all, the show and movie don't deny the girls are het. So, waifufag pandering is the real purpose of the movie, and not any kind of deep auteur nonsense
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>>3469675
Thats the opposite of the interpretaions I have read from people who have actually seen the movie. I have no attatchment to whoever wrote or directed the movie, but I think drawing conclusions before watching the movie is defeatest and retarded. If the movie releases and its as bad as you say, then I will gladly eat my words and burn my merch or whatever.
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>>3469678
The gameplay is not great, but you can probably find the story on youtube and if you can't you can find just text and voices on the assets reader here. The game is free though, and I got through the entire story in a few hours.
https://karth.top/home
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>>3469674
You can watch the events here, most of them are pretty fun and gay to various degrees
https://www.youtube.com/user/pwrofemo/videos
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>>3469694
sorry, meant for
>>3469678
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>>3469675
So this is the nip audience, angstfags that love bittersweet drama
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>>3469694
I think thats missing the latest story chapter but yeah thats a good collection. Theres some I have not seen myself too.
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>>3469704
I wish it was that, waifufags are 1000x more likely
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>>3469675
>Filmarks
Who?
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>2018
>"OMG THE UTENA OF OUR GENERATION!!!111!!!"
>2021
>show unironically pulls an utena
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE IT"
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>Junna gives up because she isn't good enough and will never have enough talent

I'd be pissed off if I was Nana
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>>3469681
>After all, the show and movie don't deny the girls are het
I'd say starlight has more female waifufags, at the very least the split is pretty even
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>>3469879
I think that post is bait from some autist who posted the same shit in the /vg/ general.
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>>3469915
I haven't been in /vg/ for ages, so that person wasn't me
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As a casual fan, I am kinda disappointed. Seems like they went through all the trouble to reunite Karen and Hikari and "take down" the system to end it with everyone going their seperate ways and nothing really changing. I'm still going to check it out because the revues are very entertaining, but the movie as a whole sounds like a canned coming of age plot from a decade or two ago. Just feels like they could have done almost anything and went with the most mundane route possible while also snubbing /u/ for really no reason. That's just my casual opinion going off of leaks so hopefully I'm proven wrong.
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So this movie is the Toy Story 4 of yuri?
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>>3469968
The Evangelion 4.0 of yuri
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>>3469961
That's what irks me the most, it feels like (some) of the development from the anime didn't happen and the conflict comes from... things that were already solved? particularly for Mahiru, banana and Hikari, doesn't make any sense.
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>>3469968
>leaving your presumed responsibilites behind in order to be free with someone you love
I fucking wish.

>>3469976
The Eva 4.0 will be the Madoka sequel and I've been dreading it since it got an official name a few months ago.
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>>3469986
Unless Madoka goes for a boring and generic ending (like Eva 4.0 or the Starlight movie) I doubt it.
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>>3469983
Tte worst thing is that (if the spoilers are true) the main reasonfor those girls to act loke that is a Mei's Citrus+ level of autism and if that other anon is right and most of the movie uses just Karen POV then we have a confusing mess like the last two episodes of the original Evangelion, but with a real budget.
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>>3469990
Most of the movie uses Hikari's POV. It just constantly switches from Hikari trying to find Karen (the present day revues) and random flashbacks to Karen's past.
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>>3469993
That's worst. At least we know what are Hikari motivations?, or is so confusing that we don't even know that?
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>>3469993
>Hikari trying to find Karen just to ditch her
And people defend this. Why is she trying to find Karen if Karen holds her back so much Hikari needs to go to London?
Retarded movie
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>>3469994
I think that it has something to do with her wanting to stop running away from/be held back by Karen.
Yeah...

>>3469996
Maybe she has to face her first before she can be fully free from her I guess.

Out of 110 IPs, am I literally the only one here who lives in Japan?
I'm still not sure if it's my own fault or the writer's fault that the movie was so incomprehensible to me.
I can rewatch it I guess, but I don't feel like giving another 2000 yen to Bushiroad.
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>>3469976
>sinks one of the worst het ships featuring the most overrated and annoying tsundere in anime

Eva 4.0 was based.
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>>3469998
Given others in other boards aren't complaining about the movie being hard to understand, maybe it's on you. I'll guess I'll see when BDs come out if the movie really is hard to understand
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>>3469986
Toy Story 4 was about abandoning your family for a whore you just met.

>The Eva 4.0 will be the Madoka sequel and I've been dreading it since it got an official name a few months ago.
Can't soil it anymore than Rebellion already did.
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>>3470022
>Toy Story 4 was about abandoning your family for a whore you just met.
>you just met
I'm not a pixar movie buff but even I know that Bo Peep was Woody's love interest in the first and second movies.
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>>3470022
>abandoning your family for a whore you just met
I can't believe Judy single-handedly seduced both Hikari and Nana...
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If you don't like how the movie ended, then just look to the other continuities, like the stage play or mobage. The mobage has a lot of very nice /u/ stories.
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>>3470060
Even if you try to ignore it, the movie is going to give trolls ammunition for years.
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>>3470077
If I can ignore the worst parts of the movie, then I'm sure I can ignore some trolls.
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>>3470043
Kek. Uaing that logic, and the girls from the mobage, we can make that ending a NTR festival.
>Maya, Futaba and Mahiru just followed Yachiyo into the same college.
>Junna is just following Tsukasa
>Kaoruko is in Kyoto just to hatefuck Tamao
>Claudine has a random frog GF.
The only one I can't pair without her official subtext pairings is Karen.
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>>3470086
Rather than yachiyo, shouldnt it be akira or michiru because they are in the same year? Why do I get the feeling you didn't think this through?
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>>3470087
>Why do I get the feeling you didn't think this through?
Because I didn't, it's just a little shitpost to change the tone or subject of the thread
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>>3470085
Nana should really ditch her toilet paper degree wife and fuck Hisame.
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>>3470091
Fair. Akira belongs to Shiori anyways.
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>>3470097
Thinking about it they all are gonna get toilet paper degrees. Good thing most of them are rich, and I can totally see Junna ending up at WcDonalds.
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>>3470098
I'm not too sure after they opened the incest route for the Shiraoris in the Siegfield chapter of Arcana Arcadia.
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>>3384550
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How indecent!
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>>3471482
>only hikaren that comes out anymore is official
Sis...
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>>3471485
>Hikari unironically believes Karen holds her back
Literally why the fuck did they do this?
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>>3471552
If you had a literally mentally challenged girlfriend you would think the same.
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>>3471555
But that's Hikari, or at least mobage Hikari
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>>3471556
Anime and stage play Hikari have like 10 more IQ points and aren't total autismos.
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>>3471557
The OVAs say otherwise.
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>>3471654
The rest of the anime says otherwise.
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>>3471552
The writers think they're too smart for UNMEI
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Can someone explain the Maya/Claudine fight in detail?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKS8UccJp_I
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