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Zenkai no Rabu Raibu: >>3539457
11th episode would be premiered on September 10th
First Season of the Nijigasaki anime is rebroadcast on NHK every Saturday at 17:35 JST
Nijigasaki season 2 begins airing in April 2022
Upcoming birthdays: Eli, Rin, Rina and Ren
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>>3550685
is Shioriko that thirsty or it's Kirifu projecting?
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>>3550758
The former.
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>>3550758
it's like Keke and Kanon
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>>3550969
>it's like Keke and Kanon
Shiopomu still exists though. Unlike the Superstar writers, the SIFAS writers have object permanence.
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>>3551112
I think that anon meant Keke being thirsty about Kanon.
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>>3551112
>still exists
Not really when Pomu already has Yuu and Shioriko already has Lanzhu.
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Which characters never ot rarely interacts with each other? For some reasons those makes the best ships for me.
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>>3551149
KotoNozo
ChikaMaru
KanaMia
ChisaSumi
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>>3551127
When was the last time she was like that? 9 episodes ago?
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>>3551127
Also, comparing the gayness of a Niji girl to a Liella girl will never make sense considering how decidedly not gay Superstar is.
Very embarrassing for a 2021 anime.
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>>3551157
The last time was in episode 7 when she wanted Kanon to run against Ren.
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Who is the Niji's leader? Ayumu or Yuu?
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>>3551172
None, they aren't a idol group but just individual idols that work together
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>>3551172
They're solos, not a group.
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>>3551172
Me.
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>>3551142
I've got a sinking feeling that S2 is going to disregard all the existing ships so new ones get more screentime. ShioPomu instead of YuuPomu, MiaRina instead of AiRina etc.
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>>3551271
I'm not that worried, just a little subplot about Ayumu growing without Yuu is enough to give a little basis to ShioPomu fans. MiaRina and AiRina are a mistery right now, all of it depend on how they will manage the plot.
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>>3551271
>shiopomu/miarina
They'll get their screentime ofcourse, but that doesn't mean that they're the endgame.
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>>3551271
i predict that they would make Ayumu and Rina help Shioriko and Mia
it would fit with "the saved becomes the savior" theme and would show how much they have grown throughout the year
obviously >>3551285 >>3551287 applies too
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>>3551142
They still have moments in card/event episodes and them hanging out a lot is referenced in side materials so it still exists even when it's not a main ship.
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>>3551149
Any idol with any non-idol. YouxShima, for example.
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>>3551271
Ships shouldn't be an all or nothing kind of thing.
For example, YuuKasu is present throughout S1 even though it's not the "main" ship for both of them.
Actually ShioPomu has a kind of similar dynamic with YuuKasu - the senpai genuinely cares for the kouhai but the kouhai likes the senpai more than she can reciprocate.

Even better is when ships involving the same character are in direct conflict (via jealousy etc) with each other.
For example YuuPomu vs the other Yuu ships.
By this, all of the ships' existence are acknowledged in-universe, thus they become more "legitimate" so to speak.

The problem is when the ships do not coexist with each other, like ChikaRiko vs YoshiRiko or KanoKeke vs SumiKeke.
This makes it seem as if yuri is cheap and easily replaceable, when it should've been inseparably woven into the story itself.
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>>3551142
Shioriko is more of a mom to Lanzhu. Having to explain to the other moms why Lanzhu keeps eating the other kids' glue.
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Tell me about Rina. Why does she wear the mask?
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>>3551662
>>>/vg/llsifg
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>>3551737
They're kind of the main characters so no not really
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>>3551297
>i predict that they would make Ayumu and Rina help Shioriko and Mia
>it would fit with "the saved becomes the savior" theme and would show how much they have grown throughout the year
Hinaki and Agupon in interviews and stuff have basically hinted at this sort of development in S2, but in Ayumu's case it would be her saving/supporting Yu, basically a role reversal of S1.
Ayumu during her part of the Yume ga Koko Kara Hajimaru yo speech in ep13 outright said that would be what she would do in the future, so it's not really surprising.
Ultimately the core of the Niji anime becomes a story of "Yuu and Ayumu who support each other" to quote Hinaki, so it makes sense in that regard.
>>3551658
>Shioriko is more of a mom to Lanzhu. Having to explain to the other moms why Lanzhu keeps eating the other kids' glue.
LanShio in the SIFAS is basically just the same as the SIFAS version of EmmaKarin, mum and child.
It will probably be altered for anime like EmmaKarin was.
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>stopped watching the latest ep midway because I didn't want to watch Keke/Sumire

I think all this shipping is giving me brain damage.
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Stream
https://www.twitch.tv/qjfeorn
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>>3551658
Shioriko is basically the only Lanzhu's partner/bestfriend that she could ever have. It also revealed that they created Lanzhu 3 years ago same as Shioriko.
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So KuuKaa is finally dead
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>>3552656
It really saddens me. I can't believe they killed the most popular ship in SuperStar even though it had one of the best build-ups in the entire franchise.
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This was the most bullshit episode in the entire franchise.
Like holy shit the entire premise of the episode was so fucking bullshit.
Spoilers below. I'm not spoiler tagging this piece of shit episode.

Chisato invented the problem of Kanon who (she assumed) can't sing alone because of her past trauma.
Instead of realizing that they're a team and that they can work together to make up for each other's weaknesses, she (along with the others) trapped Kanon into this inescapable situation of her singing alone.
And they did it not by asking directly for her consent like normal human beings, but by literally lying to her and forcing (trapping) her into the situation..
And Chisato did all this because she wants Kanon to be back to the way she was before the incident (who in the flashback literally said to her that they shouldn't be afraid because they were together)
And then this bullshit thought process of her works exactly as planned because????

What
Why

This is not just bad writing. This is actually insane.
Real human beings do not actually act like this, right?
Right?

Also they fucking murdered the main point of KuuKaa and episode 3 ("you can sing because we're together"), and replaced it with this insane bullshit ("no you must be able to fucking sing alone").
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>>3552757
Seems reasonable compared to KanaMari
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>>3552793
Did you even watch the episode?
No, it was a million times worse.

There was backstory to the KanaMari drama.
This bullshit premise literally came out of nowhere. And I do mean literally nowhere Chisato suddenly decided that this is the thing that they have to do this episode and everybody just went along with it .

And at least the show acknowledged that what Kanan did was wrong with the slap.
No, this time the show itself treats this insane bullshit as if it's 100% logical and the right thing to do.
There are no repercussions for Chisato and the others after they literally revealed themselves lying to Kanon's face.
Everybody hugged and the episode ended happily ever after.
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>Also they fucking murdered the main point of KuuKaa and episode 3 ("you can sing because we're together")
That really bothered me
Tiny Stars it's about Kanon and Keke overcoming their own fears because "they are not alone". Literally the lyrics of the song say it and it is one of the reasons why that episode was so powerful: Kanon was able to sing because of all the support of Keke and Chisato and Keke was able to begin to realize her dream thanks to the support of both, and also it's the reason why she is so dedicated that Kanon can sing again, because it's her way of showing appreciation to Kanon.

They could have made Kanon by herself dare to sing to completely end that stage of her life and you would come to the same "happy ending" from the episode but you wouldn't have killed the main point of the best episode the series has so far.
This further increases my suspicions that EP1-3 were made by someone else, or maybe they are just so stupid that they pretend to forget that (Kanon telling Keke that it was thanks to Chisato that she was able to sing again and never gave up, when in reality she had already given up and sang again thanks to the support of Keke and Chisato its what made me start to think that)
>This was the most bullshit episode in the entire franchise.
Worse than the Eli episode? idk
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>>3552844
What was the Eli episode? I forgot.
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>>3552757
once again,
>same director as SIP
I've been doomposting about this since the day it was announced the hack would be back.
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>>3552845
Eli being an asshole in S1 because "muh school idols amateurs I'm better"
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>>3552600
>winter coats
>fall has lasted ONE episode
I fucking despise this rushing director piece of shit. If Season 2 will be Liella's 2nd Year, and the obligatory
>Movie
will be their 3rd Year then i am going to hurt someone
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>>3552814
Feels like the revue movie all over again, to be honest. What's up with writers seemingly forgetting their own storyline? The episode would have been great on it's own, but considering the whole storyline it's certainly stupid.
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>>3552814
>>3552844
If I hadn't seen the episode I'd say something like "haha fucking kuukaafags got mad because their ship sank"
> Also they fucking murdered the main point of KuuKaa and episode 3
But it's impossible to disagree with this, what the hell were they thinking? Goddamit
The worst part of this is that the Nips and even many EN anons will be satisfied just because they got KanonChii moments
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>>3552847
I might have blocked that from my memory somehow.
But was she portrayed as being in the right in that episode?
If she wasn't then this one was still worse.

>>3552853
>The episode would have been great on it's own,

No. In no world is
>And they did it not by asking directly for her consent like normal human beings, but by literally lying to her and forcing (trapping) her into the situation..
^this okay in any way.

They are horrible friends, horrible teammates, horrible people, and horrible characters.
Kanon herself is also a horrible character. The way that she just accepted everything is not what reasonable people are supposed to do.
And then, like the fucking Mary Sue that she is of course she again excels in everything that she does, even in this dumb contrived scenario.

I didn't believe it's possible to make a character worse than Yoshiko, but they sure outdid themselves by making 5.
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>>3552861
What fucking KanoChii moments though? Chisato interacted more with the others than with Kanon herself this episode.

They not only "sunk" KuuKaa and implied that it was always pointless, but they also replaced it with fucking nothing.
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>>3552865
Not that anon but it depends on what you mean. On the one hand, she is portrayed as a better dancer. On the other hand, she gives µ's a training that she makes extra tough to show them they don't have what it takes but then they ask her for more. So she changes her mind. At least, that's how I remember it.
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Just go check twitter / 2ch / a or any other forum everyone is talking about it
>They not only "sunk" KuuKaa and implied that it was always pointless,
They literally killed the EP3 message and tried to replace it with another that ended up being similar in the end. It seems that this episode was focused on "Since Kuukaa ship is no longer useful to us and we don't want people to think that we want to send them we are going to erase everything that EP3 / KuuKaa did right and replace it with this new shit, which is literally what same but without a good build-up / script"
Dude, I can really understand that they want to get rid of that ship, but doing it that way is an insult to all the good they developed and makes it feel pointless. If you want to kill a ship, just don't feed it and let everyone forget it. Don't you shit on it and treat it like a bullshit
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>>3552887
Was her way of thinking portrayed as the right one? Or whose side was the show itself on?
From that description it seems that she was the wrong one from the show's perspective.

Maybe it was forced drama, but at least the show itself acknowledged her "wrongness".
But in this (Superstar ep 11)'s case, there is no drama when there should've been.
Everybody is railroaded into accepting that it's 100% the right thing to do, even though it definitely isn't in the real world.
These characters, they do not act like human beings.

>>3552892
Are people really praising this episode? I'm actually too scared to open twitter right now. I don't want to hate this fandom more than I already do.
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>>3552848
Why would you want even more of this shit?
Zero yuri, horrible characters, horrible plot.

Give the second season's budget to the Niji team so they can make a 2-cour season 2.
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>>3552894
>Are people really praising this episode? I'm actually too scared to open twitter right now
Nips are the biggest KanoChiifags, and with Kuukaa out of the way, those guys have gone nuts over this episode. Try to see twitter yourself and you will notice it.
I wouldn't be surprised if this episode beats EP3 in rating.
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>>3552912
>Nips are the biggest KanoChiifags
Seems to be true, there were multiple 2ch and 5ch threads where nips are claiming that KanoChii is the greatest childhood friend ship.
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>>3552912
But this episode did jack shit for KanoChii.
No really, I'm at a loss. What part of the episode do they think is fodder for KanoChii?

The way Chisato tried to "help" Kanon is not only wrong, but also so unemotional from her part. They all acted like emotionless puppets (even more than usual).
This is not the yuri that we deserve. This is garbage.

>>3552919
>there were multiple 2ch and 5ch threads where nips are claiming that KanoChii is the greatest childhood friend ship.
Really? The greatest childhood friend ship? This discount YouChika but somehow even blander?
There's nothing appealing about KanoChii, either them as a ship or them as individual characters.
They're barely friends, much less childhood friends, much less viable romantic partners.
Both of them have no personality (this applies to all of the Liellas but eh).
The anime didn't do anything with them besides the clumsy episode 6 and this absolute mess episode 11, and even then barely.

The greatest childhood friend ship???
Holy shit I want to murder people.

I'm not even a KuuKaa shipper. All of the Liella ships are garbage. All of the Liella girls are garbage.
I'm mad as a mainly Niji fan, a YuuPomu shipper, and general yuri fan.

Superstar is a poor excuse for yuri. It don't think it even qualifies as subtext at this point.
It's fucking shameful seeing the franchise go from Sunshine and Niji to this.
This fucking hack director clearly hates yuri and wants to rid the franchise of yuri. And this braindead fanbase is letting him do it by acting as if this literally nothing garbage is the yuri that we deserve.
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>>3552938
From what I read they were saying that they are happy that Chisato did not get cuck and won the kanonbowl in the end. I think those nips are YouChikafags? Probably, KanoChi is their way to cope with what happened to You?
Also they were laughing at Kougi and Kitahara for choosing KuuKa. I don't know if they said anything about HonoKotoUmi but there was a person saying that Ayumu should stop being a psycho lesbian and be normal likes Chisato.
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>>3552938
https://twitter.com/shigellum02/status/1447147669755813888
Just check this shit
>I'm not even a KuuKaa shipper.
>All of the Liella ships are garbage.All of the Liella girls are garbage
Honestly, I can´t hate Liella.Maybe it's because I have an emotional attachment to the franchise. In fact, I didn't expect much from the anime when I found out about the director. But I really had hope when the first few episodes were released. Although Kuukaa never reached the levels of yuri that ChikaRiko had, the drama felt very real, for the first time the initial girls had reasons to be idols (Kotori, Umi, You initially did it just to help Honoka / Chika). Kanon and Keke's friendship and support felt really honest and seemed to increase as the episodes progressed, even the SoL / fillers moments helped to enhance this feeling. And Tiny Stars ... well, I think a lot of people have already explained how cool it is and why it's so powerful.If Kuukaa had existed in Niji or Sunshine I am sure it would have been a developed ship, even a main ship.
After that, the anime completely changed course. Yeah, I can understand that some feel Kanon is a Marie Sue, but she doesn't seem like someone unpleasant to me. In fact, it feels like the staff didn't know what to do with them and other girls like Keke, their personalities are nice and funny, but the anime's narrative doesn't help them to show us that personality, everything feels quite artificial.
Right now I have no hope that this will improve in the next season, but I still can't hate this group. Fuck, I think I'll even keep seeing it. I'm a stupid faggot kek

>>3552977
Nips are rare, they don't care if a partner is compatible, toxic, lazy, bad writing, etc. If they see that 2 people are childhood friends, 95% of them will consider them OTP and they will not care about anything else at all.Thats the reason why ChikaYou its so fucking popular even if it's one-sided
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Damn, I haven't seen a shitstorm like this before in a LL thread.
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>>3553040
Where were you when EP8 was released?
/a/ is screwed now btw lol
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>>3553040
It's just two people, I don't think that SuperStar is that bad, but yeah in hindsight is not good either, at least not compared to Sunshine S1 and Nijigasaki.
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>>3553044
>but yeah in hindsight is not good either, at least not compared to Sunshine S1

Ehhh, the smaller cast for Superstar lends to a much better concentration of interactions which work out fine unlike the other where they had to juggle 9 girls
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Is KanoChii actually all that popular? It doesn't seem to have much traction at all, atleast not compared to YuPomu which blew up not only on Twitter but also on places like Pixiv where it managed to hit over 100k views per day.
I've seen it said by some JP people that YuPomu managed to attract Yuri fans who don't usually watch Love Live which may explain the discrepancy, but then that brings up a whole other issue for KanoChii.
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>>3553055
YuuPomu currently has 2,188 works and is the most popular Niji ship while KanoChii is the second most popular ship with 414 works just below KuuKa with 541 works. As point of reference, the gap between YuuPomu and ShizuKasu is way bigger than the gap between KuuKa and KanoChi.
The gap between YuuPomu and ShizuKasu is around 1000.
Meanwhile, KuuKaa and KanoChi is around 100.
YuuPomu is clearly way more popular than many ship.
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>>3553055
>>3553065
Don't be surprised if KanoChii surpasses Kuukaa in a few weeks. The amount of Kuukaa fanart has decreased a lot (because they aren't feeding that ship anymore) while KanoChii simply increases. I think even SumiKeke will get over it too and KuuKaa will just be forgotten and die. What a shame
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I didn't expect Ren to be the member who ends up being the one left out, ship-wise. Do you guys think they'll end up sticking her with someone at some point in the series?
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>>3553123
It's inevitable that KuuKaa will die, I remember someone posted on /a/ the list of upcoming SS doujins and there was 0 KuuKaa on the list. Indeed, it's truly a shame, the ship with the most potential had to be cut off because of that stupid hack director.
>>3553168
I think it might become KanoChiiRen but who knows what is inside that director's mind at this point...
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Subs out
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>>3553055
Well, YuuPomu had waaaay more subtext, with Ayumu's arc at the end of Anigasaki actually making less sense if you see her feelings from a platonic standpoint. Kanon and Chisato's moments have been much less straightforward (honestly less so than ShizuKasu and even AiRina) so I can see why their ship hasn't taken off as much fancontent wise.
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>>3553050
>Ehhh, the smaller cast for Superstar lends to a much better concentration of interactions which work out fine unlike the other where they had to juggle 9 girls
In theory yes, but in practice Superstar's interactions are as bad as the ones in OG/Sunshine, if not worse.
Look at how unnatural the dialogue flows in every episode. Since now they don't have the excuse of having 9 girls, it's clear as day that this director is just a fucking hack who doesn't know how normal humans speak.
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>>3553178
>It's inevitable that KuuKaa will die
>the ship with the most potential had to be cut off because of that stupid hack director.
It really had fucking great potential. Even after KanoChii episode 6 and SumiKeke Kissbait / episode 5 and 6 were released, the advantage of KuuKaa in the Pixiv ranking was still very wide and when it began to weaken EP10 and the most recent EP11 were released causing it to finally die. KuuKaa survived for more than 2 months being fed only half of EP7. It really had a strong impact.


This will sound cringy af, but I honestly don't know what to think. I really had a lot of faith in KuuKaa (and SuperStar) but now the staff will just forget everything about the first episodes and even as anon said, episode 10 is clearly a KanonChii replacement to EP3 and "i can sing because im not alone". Until now I was only supporting Niji's ships and this is the first time that I like a ship so much and it sinks in the worst possible way. What am I supposed to do? Should I support KanoChii and SumiKeke even though KanoChii doesn't seem so strong to me or I directly dislike SumiKeke? I also don't want to drop the anime because I watch it for reasons other than the ships.
Damn, this is bullshit and a headache, anon
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>>3553254
>this is the first time that I like a ship so much and it sinks in the worst possible way. What am I supposed to do?
This is basically just a repeat of ChikaRiko/YoshiRiko fiasco but happening in the span of a single season instead of two.

Back then, I simply disengaged with the franchise after venting out my frustrations at the end of Sunshine S2.
I still watched the movie and played the games (because I'm too autistic to drop them), but fandom-wise there was nothing else for me because the fandom's "consensus" prefers YouChika, YoshiRiko, and fucking YouRiko of all things. I just didn't care anymore.

I think that a lot of /u/ fans of the franchise did the same after Sunshine S2. The threads here were a barren wasteland until Niji S1 aired.

>Should I support KanoChii and SumiKeke even though KanoChii doesn't seem so strong to me or I directly dislike SumiKeke?
No, you shouldn't if you don't like them. You should never fall back to the fandom consensus especially when the consensus prefers barely subtext over more realized yuri.

>I also don't want to drop the anime because I watch it for reasons other than the ships.
May I ask what those reasons are? I'm actually struggling to think of a single positive thing about Superstar
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>>3552977
>but there was a person saying that Ayumu should stop being a psycho lesbian and be normal likes Chisato.
Hahaha that's gold. That guy should go fucking kill himself.

Ayumu's actions were 100% realistic, especially if you consider her to be a hormonal teenage lesbian (which she is).

Chisato's weren't normal no matter how you look at them. They weren't the actions of a normal reasonable friend, but instead the actions of a grown man who had written himself into a corner trying to solve a previously nonexistent problem that he himself created.

>Also they were laughing at Kougi and Kitahara for choosing KuuKa.
I forgot what Kitahara's preferences were, but I have the utmost respect for Kougi sticking to ChikaRiko after all these years.
Fuck these twitter people.
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>>3553254
I feel the same way, I think I will watch the final episode, it's a bit too late to drop it. I really wish they kept going with KuuKaa but I guess KuuKaa's popularity has gone out of control and they never planned for it to become that popular and they had to kill KuuKaa using the worst method ever. As for the reason that I am still watching SS, I just don't have anything to watch except two new animes this season.
>>3553273
Yeah, I think that guy speedwatched the Niji anime and completely missed the message.
Also, I really admire Kougi's dedication after all the bullying he suffered from those braindead people. If I remember correctly, Kougi was mostly attacked by YoshiRiko shippers.
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We fought valiantly, lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hXG1tBFIi8
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>>3553283
>but I guess KuuKaa's popularity has gone out of control and they never planned for it to become that popular and they had to kill KuuKaa using the worst method ever.
This doesn't make sense because it's an anime. The scripts were written and animated way before they can even see the audience reactions to anything.
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>dat tongue
Now they put the memes in for us.
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Loli Yuu?
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They should have kissed right then and there to teach all those kids the most important part of being a schoo idol.
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>>3553299
Savor this "yuri", girls. This is all that we'll get this season: a dumb punchline that goes nowhere.

Remember how they did this same gag with Riko back in Sunshine S1? And how they completely forgot about it after that?

This is what yuri means to these people. A disposable joke.

>>3553304
She should've slapped her like Mari slapped Kanan for being a retarded bitch.
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>>3552977
>Ayumu should stop being a psycho lesbian and be normal likes Chisato.
That's not how relationship works at all and I agree that Ayumu is at least realistic. She has a right to be jealous at them because she's Yuu's girlfriend.
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>>3553299
I expected to hears moans after she clicked.
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>>3553273
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>>3553311
Yeah it's actually more enjoyable writing these autistic walls of text instead of watching the thing itself.
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>>3553298
>The scripts were written and animated way before they can even see the audience reactions to anything.
they didn't account for two things:
Keke's birthday
Olympic Hiatus
and two things following the hiatus:
Episode 3 teaser
Episode 1-3 digest
those four things directly boosts KuuKaa way out of proportion, thank God Olympics exist
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>>3553311
enjoy it all you can before you got nothing of it when Nijigasaki S2 airs because everyone would praise it
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>>3553269
>This is basically just a repeat of ChikaRiko/YoshiRiko
>I just didn't care anymore.
I wasn't that immersed in the fandom when Sunshine S2 ended, but I can imagine how it was all about ChikaRiko / YoshiRiko and even RubyMaru / Yoshimaru. I don't know if leaving the fandom for a while is the best solution, I honestly like talking to other guys about LL and my 2 friends who I could talk about this left the franchise a long time ago

> The threads here were a barren wasteland until Niji S1 aired.

Really? I imagine that at some point they just got tired of arguing since in the end they would come to nothing. I feel that the staff was very dishonest with Sunshine S2, it is stupid that you change so many things in your series just to sell ship fanservice.

> No, you shouldn't if you don't like them

I have thought the same. Although I am not sure, perhaps because of the pressure of the fandom or the constant spamming of the ships they will make me change sides. I know that when Niji S2 will feel better, although there is still a long way to go for that

> May I ask what those reasons are? I'm actually struggling to think of a single positive thing about Superstar
Sure, though it may be cringy again. Many years ago I was a shitty guy with shitty habits. And as stupid as it may sound, it was partly thanks to Sunshine that I was able to change my life. Something as silly as that helped me become a meme engineer. Supporting the franchise in any way that I can is my way of saying "thank you." I think it's the only way I can show my respect for a franchise that I love.
Even many scenes, especially EP3 and even Kanon's scene talking to herself from today still hit me hard on feelings. For me they have the same vibes as when I started watching Sunshine. Also despite the way they are treating the characters, I still like Kanon and Keke individually. That is why I would like to continue seeing the story
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>>3553055
I think that the Niji anime in general attracted people who don't like the usual Love Live.
I personally know more than a few people who despised the mainline series but thought that Niji was really good.
Maybe I can even count myself as one of those people since I never liked the mainline series too to be honest, except for parts of Sunshine S1.
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>>3553283
>I really wish they kept going with KuuKaa
I also wanted the same. I thought that if somehow we got something from KuuKaa pandering in these last episodes it would be enough for the artists not to lose interest and so the staff consider continuing to push KuuKaa in the second season (just like YohaMaru) but seeing how they have been the relationships in the season and now that there is only one episode left, I think that possibility is almost non-existent
>>3553319
Sure, that was a very important factor, the hiatus really fueled the hype before and after EP3, although it is impossible for me not to recognize that EP3 is too powerful. Despite the fact that it's almost a dead ship now, I still think that it has been one of the best arcs we have had in the entire franchise
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>>3553335
>I still think that it has been one of the best arcs we have had in the entire franchise
people marathoning those episodes would not understand what we have feeling throughout this season
KuuKaa would not be this huge if the hiatus never happened
it's a shame, the first arc has left me with so much hope for a yuri series that i thought would surpass the Nijis
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>>3553328
I actually quite relate with your situation, funnily enough.

Sunshine S1 aired while I was in a rough period in my life starting my 2nd year of college.
Niji S1 aired while I was in another rough period, this time during my 1st year of working in Japan.
In weird ways, both of them really did help me go through those rough periods. Niji especially has become a kind of comfort anime that I watch whenever I'm down lately.

However, I don't really have the same emotional connection that you have with Superstar.
I feel that Superstar abandons the advancements that Sunshine and Niji made to the franchise, and is a devolution to the style of the Muse era that I've always disliked.
I did feel a bit of Sunshine's vibe in episode 1 and 3, but those moments were too few for me.
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You're all a bunch of drama queens.
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Other than Ren's arc which felt rushed, I don't get the extremely negative comments here. Show is just a good amount of moe every week, more or less like it's always been. Maybe is because I'm very interested in the fanfics and fanart that comes out of LL regardless of ships, so the lack of canon yuri doesn't bother me that much.
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poor Superstar
coming right off after Nijigasaki's hot tails
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>>3553400
So you're okay with it being as shit as it has always been?
You're okay with this lame barely subtext trash that should've been unacceptable 8 years ago, much less now?
You are what's wrong with the Love Live fandom.
You're enabling these lazy ass writers who want us to regress back to 8 years ago instead of moving forward and continue to push the boundaries of yuri subtext.
I fucking hate you all.

And it's not even good moe. The characters are not cute. They're fucking irritating to watch.
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>>3553400
Not the angry sisters, but I'm 2 episodes behind now and really don't feel like catching up at this point.
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>>3553419
I'm pretty sure what I like (and don't like) won't change a thing in the great scheme of things. I assume you enjoyed Niji, and only feel this unhinged about Superstar? If that's the case, it's cool and I get your point. But if it's not, I don't think the problem is this show, but yourself.

>>3553432
The opposite for me, it's the only show that I'm up to date. I guess it's not an overwhelming negative response, more like a mixed one? There's not too many people around these particular threads, after all.
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>>3553543
By "you" I meant the substantial part of the Love Live fandom who think like that as a whole, not you personally. Sorry.
I just really hate the way of thinking that canon doesn't matter and that yuri is entirely fanon.

And yeah I did enjoy Niji very much. It's the only Love Live series that I genuinely think is good.
I believe that Niji is the forward-facing direction that the franchise should go, not just in terms of yuri, but in general storytelling and character development too.

And at first I didn't hate Superstar. I thought that the first episode was pretty good. I noticed from the get go that the amount of yuri was very low compared to Sunshine and Niji, but I assumed that we'll get some later on.
The clickbait "kiss" scene in episode 5 was the first sign for me that perhaps this director guy treats yuri not as something real, but as a joke.
And I'm right. From start to now Superstar has been entirely devoid of yuri that we're used to since Sunshine S1.
But it was really the last episode that finally broke me. An episode so dumb and horribly written it's still living rent free in my head after 24 hours.

>I guess it's not an overwhelming negative response, more like a mixed one?
I don't think I've ever seen a purely positive response though. Mixed to negative maybe.
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would they destroy ShizuKasu too?
>Images must not contain men, and should ideally be of two or more women. The occasional solo image is allowed as long as it's relevant to the topic, but solo image dumps should be posted on /e/
okay, i guess
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>>3553641
>would they destroy ShizuKasu too?
Is it because of the hairpin?
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>>3553641
ShizuKasu has been getting a shit ton of support, in All Stars and the anime. A better comparison would be KanaEmma, which died the minute the anime decided to go with EmmaKarin, and everything else followed suite.
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>>3553650
at least they go for EmmaKarin and AiRina since episode 1, and ShizuKasu since episode 2
but yeah, the game stuffs were different regarding Kanata, Emma, Karin, Kasumi, and Shizuku
>>3553647
partially this but i'm still bitter about Liyuu's favourite ship
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>>3553653
>partially this but i'm still bitter about Liyuu's favourite ship
wait what? Explain it please
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>>3553655
she supports KuuKaa
heavily
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>>3552757
My god anon, just drop it!! How many hours of your time have you invested so far complaining about something you don't like? Can't you use your time for something you enjoy, instead?
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>>3553299
This is my favorite love live couple now.
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>>3553307
>Remember how they did this same gag with Riko back in Sunshine S1? And how they completely forgot about it after that?

Are you talking about Riko having a locker filled with self-insert yuri books? That didn't go away. Yoshiko brought it up again near the end of Sunshine S2. There's an AS card of Riko reading yuri books. And, IIRC, it's been brought up in the daily theater stories in AS.
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>>3552977
nips have the memory span of a goldfish, so new = better. When we get season 2 of Nijigasaki you will have more people claiming YuuPomu is better.
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>>3553254
you can expect for a few crumbs sent your way like ShioPomu fans are waiting for a few crumbs in season 2. I mean, you could even get your own dog episode (LOL). Bad jokes aside, that's how you cope. Or you find another pairing to support... which in the case of Superstar is hard because they will probably only add members until season 2.
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>>3552977
>>3553891
you know what I find funny, it's that nip fans are not dissimilar to Latino fans in that they have the same shitty attention span. Nijigasaki was the best love live anime past december and everything else was trash, now Superstar is the best love live anime and everything before is trash.

I'm kind of glad that the director deflated the hopes of these people from getting a cameo or something that could actually place Superstar on an actual timeline, because then we wouldn't hear the end of "muh canon timeline" comments. I love the fact that even the voice actress of the reporter girl acknowledged it wasn't the same character, and that the "Neo Mutant Girls" thing references something that only happened on a dream. Now these faggots looking for minuscule references to claim their series is "canon" are considered borderline schizos by the rest of the fanbase.
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>>3553666
1. Dropping a show when there's only one episode left is a bit pointless. Might as well see through this trainwreck to the end.
2. Writing these posts only takes a couple of minutes of my time
3. Complaining about this is very enjoyable actually. It's a way for me to get something out of my time wasted on watching the show itself.
4. I've spent quite a bit of money and time on this franchise, going to events and buying knick-knacks and such. Even though I've never spent them on Liella/Superstar-related stuff, I am still indirectly funding this thing whether I like it or not. So seeing my time and money be wasted on this anti-yuri piece of shit is kinda upsetting.
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>>3553900
>Nijigasaki was the best love live anime past december and everything else was trash, now Superstar is the best love live anime and everything before is trash.
I'm not sure if the people who are saying these things are the same people.
From my observations, Niji fans and Superstar fans are almost diametrically opposed to each other, in terms of what they want from the franchise.
Which makes sense considering how different the Niji anime was from the "mainline" series (I mean this in the most positive way), while Superstar was mostly more of the same.
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>>3553911
I agree insofar your main point (Niji fans and Liella fans are looking for different stuff, I actually posted something in /vg/ that reflected my opinion on the matter when it was revealed their first BD didn't sell as well as Niji's first BD), but you know what they say about loud minorities and said voices that end up shaping opinions around the fanbase. I actually feel like Sunrise was very hands-on for the first 3 episodes, but then left staff to do whatever the fuck they wanted for the rest of the episodes and as such there's a massive disconnect between the quality/atmosphere that there is. Episodes 1-3 have a sobriety similar to Nijigasaki, and while there's jokes, they are jokes that would actually work IRL (Kanon and her terrible chinese for example, Keke being an unironic idol otaku). Whereas starting from episode 4, you have the characters becoming louder and obnoxious, Sumire being bullied like there's no tomorrow and the SIP references start to become overbearing. And like it was previously mentioned, it seems like the "yuri" here is mostly treated like a joke. Whereas Ayumu and Yuu solving their issues was treated with a solemnity never seen before (and even got its own soundtrack), and both of ShizuKasu's main moments were also treated seriously, the biggest "yuri" moments in this series were straight up gags or tricked up angles.
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>>3553647
Honestly, whilst ShizuKasu and the lack of hairpin has been talked about alot, the likes of EmmaKarin and AiRina also seem to have lost alot of their spark in the second season key visual.
Only YuPomu has gotten an upgrade from the 1st season key visual, with them now forming a handholding duo instead of a trio with Setsuna.
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>>3554223
EmmaKarin and AiRina are strong enough, though
they said in the YuPomu radio that Yu would take more central stage in S2
but yeah, i hope Ai and Emma's character would get major development too this time
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>>3554232
>>3554223
I just hope they'll give more screentime for the new trio in the 2nd season, though. (Shioriko, Lanzhu and Mia)
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>>3554232
While I understand why some would say that Ai didn't get much character development, I never get why people say that for Emma too.
From her focus episode, we got to know her personality and relationships with other girls, her wants and fears, her dreams and motivations.
That's already more than what most Muse, Aqours, and Liella characters got.

>>3554238
I think that all the girls will get another round of focus episodes in S2. Assuming that it'll be a one-cour / 13 episode season, some of the existing girls will share an episode (ala the EmmaKarin and ShizuKasu episodes in S1) but with two insert songs so that each girl still gets a new solo. The new girls will have their own, not shared focus episodes.
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>>3554238
let's guess that S2 would have 13 episodes and 11 songs too
1 episode for the new girls -> 3
1 episode for development for each remaining Nijis (Ai, Emma, Yu) -> 3
1 episode for each subunits forming -> 4
1 group episode at the end -> 1
2 episode slots remaining, probably this would be episode 1 and 2 for the setup of StuCo Elections
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>>3550649
would it be 2 cours?
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Liella ships pixiv current ranking:
1)KanoKeke(552)
2)KanoChisa(430)
3)KekeSumi(311)
4)KanoRen(58)
5)KanoSumi(51)
6)SumiRen(48)
7)KekeRen(30)
8)KekeChisa(24)/ChisaRen(24)
9)ChisaSumi(19)
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Expected new pairings for S2
>ShioPomu
It's gonna be so explosive, imagine yuu training piano hard while ayumu and shio go on friendly dates, yet shio slowly falls in love with idols (and ayumu). That'll be a whole different level of drama
>AiMia
Yeah it's gonna be a thing, I was never sold on AiRina anyways, what are your thoughts?
>Kanata x Anyone (but Haruka)
Maybe Shizuku or Emma, but I'm sure that they'll try to bury HaruKana for good. It did helped make Kanata more interesting, but if they double down on it it's gonna be labeled the citrus of love live. Now they can always surprise use and hire Kaede Hondo for a few songs.
>Lanzhu x Setsuna
Now that would be completely new, but I think it would make sense if they start as rivals and eventually become friends due to their love for idols. It could also play on trying to evolve setsuna into a more competitive character
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>>3554246
Never has happened, so no.
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WIll we have more of the citrus sisters in S2?
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>>3554340
>>3554342
Don't compare shitty-ass stepsisters to glorious full-blooded pure incest.
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>>3554340
>AiMia
Why? In SiFAS the alternativa is RinaXMia.
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>>3554345
should've written RinaMia,i'm a fucking idiot
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>>3554348
Sorry but my brain refused to remeber the name of the ship.
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>>3553254
>episode 10 is clearly a KanonChii replacement to EP3
I'll never forgive this. Seriously, they're trying way too hard to push Chisakanon.
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>>3554340
Nijigasaki needs its own OT3. They could go for SetsunaxShiorikoxLanzhu, or ShiorikoxSetsunaxVicepresident.
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There aren't enough Love Lives with glasses.
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>>3554363
>LanEmma
what
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>>3554373
I can see that these three will happen more. I noticed that Setsuna doesn't seem to want to be part of threesome.
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>>3554382
what's the appeal, anyway
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>>3554373
No need to ruin Niji with that filth too
It’s sad how much 2nd year Muse content is just OT3 garbage, same thing but to a lesser extent for Aqours.
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>>3554433
European girl ravaging arrogant chinese girl.
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>>3554450
>by the time Emma is done with her, she would speak exclusively in Mandarin and introduce herself as Tianjinese instead of a Hongkonger
hot
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>>3554465
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>>3554473
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>>3554449
OT3s are Love Live's trademark, and HonoKotoUmi is the best, you fucking pleb.
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>>3554465
what the....
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>>3554477
this feels too sexual
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>>3554465
Doesn't make sense, both of them only like Shioriko.
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>>3554483
sauce? all 4 searches gives me nothing
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>>3554489
https://twitter.com/robiari69/status/1447571134493331460
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>>3554491
thanks!
>>3554490
I love them. I hope we get more food in season 2
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>>3554479
KotoUmi > dumb polycrack
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>>3554492
You are welcome!
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>>3554479
This is why nobody ever takes any of the Muse ships seriously.

Get with the times grandma. It's the current year.
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>>3554508
who tops?
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>>3554512
kek nice
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>>3554519
None, they are both bottoms but Kasumi will try to top Shizuko.
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I like how Niji still has their proper canon ships in their show/game.
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>>3554459
Just came to say that those ships are terrible. Pana is a crappy character and it would be an insult to the 3rd years to be shipped with her fatty butt.
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>>3554608
Hanayo is for Rin anyway
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>>3554608
you don't have to be so mean, sis
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>>3554608
They were all crappy characters. All of the Muses were.

There's a reason why the Liella girls were cloned from Aqours instead of them.
You can't do much with characters whose only personality traits were russia, grope, and meme respectively.
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>>3554495
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>>3554241
>some of the existing girls will share an episode (ala the EmmaKarin and ShizuKasu episodes in S1) but with two insert songs so that each girl still gets a new solo.
Nah, having to create two MV's an episode would kill the animators. I expect solo focus episodes for each character like S1.
But with 13 characters and 13 episodes, and with one of the episodes also traditionally being devoted to the group song, it means 2 of the 13 characters will need to share an episode.
Mia/Lanzhu/Shio being newly introduced will certainly not share an episode with anyone since they need all the focus on them, so the most likely candiates to share an episode out of the remaining characters is Ayumu with Yu since Ayumu already had her development in S1.
I've seen people say that the anime will probably import the story of how after many struggles, the first song Anata wrote was a song for Ayumu, which is a development I somehow completely forgot that, so you can just have an episode about that.
Ayumu sings, Yuu plays.
>>3554642
>You can't do much with characters whose only personality traits were russia, grope, and meme respectively.
WashiWashi was funny though.
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Speaking of the hags were they ever as bad as Superstar?

I completely forgot how bad their anime was.
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>>3554691
2013 was a different time, the standards for gayness in all-girls shows hadn't been set high yet. Aside from that, I don't recall it being that bad. Decently entertaining with a colouful cast, that much makes it watchable.
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>>3554691
>>3554719
overall it wasn't really a bad series, another thing people forget is the emphasis on comedy and even the forced NicoMaki didn't affect the quality of the series (only Maki as a character)
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The lack of lanzhu yuri fanarts is disturbing.
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>>3554761
People will only notice them once they air the season 2 anime.
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>>3554761
she's supossed to be shipped with Shioriko, but the latter is always shipped with ayumu, and her other friend mia was shipped with rina; this lanzhu was left alone
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>>3554771
Doesn't seem like it. Shioriko is looking out for Lanzhu in her bond at least. Besides Ayumu already has Yuu.
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>>3554761
She lacks fanart in general. I'm waiting for Kitaku to finally notice her.
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>>3554776
I want a love triangle of nuclear levels, nothing else can top the episode 11 drama, it'll surpass the you-chika-riko shitshow, the tamao/shizuma/nagisa devastating finale, the yaya/hikari/amane triangle. It'll kickstrt a new era of yuri if it goes all the way
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>>3554786
>yuu x ayumu x shioriko x lanzhu
I'm sure people are waiting for this to happen too, there will be some jealously but of course in the end they'll just go back to their real canon partners anyway.
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>>3554789
I think ships like amane x hikari or shizuma x nagisa ended up being powerful and impactful due to the defeat of yaya and tamao, for a ship to be powerful it needs foundation, and what better foundation than the hopes and tears of the defeated?
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>>3554791
They are not powerful. The reason people get salty about them is, because they are badly written. Writing-wise it's bad to have the first girl win. (the reason why most childhood friends are auto losing)
Simply put, if the first girl wins anyway, why even have a second girl? In theory you can pull that off, but it's hard to do without failing to justify why the character has to be a love interest to pull off their role.

Strawberry Panic was never a good show. Sure, it's one of the few things from back then, and yes, yuri also likes to do this mistake quite a bit, so some may be used to it. It's still a shitty thing to do, as the losing character tends to not get anything out of it, and the purpose of that character with the role of a love interest becomes incredibly questionable.
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μ's and Aqours ships with 1000+ fanarts only.
Niji and Liella ships with 100+ fanarts only.
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5-day rolling average for the number of daily views that fanworks of ships get on Pixiv.
Since views can fluctuate from day-to-day I used 5 days to get a better reading.
I personally prefer views over the number of fanworks since they form a better guage of current popularity and are not as easily manipulated by a handful of devoted people.
List includes ships which are within 10% of the highest daily rolling average, that being YuPomu:
1)YuPomu – 20,124
2)SumiKeke – 19,633
3)KanoChi – 11,097
4)ShizuKasu – 8,756
5)NicoMaki – 6,372
6)KanoKu – 6,273
7)NozoEli - 5,101
8)YouChika – 4,755
9)AiRina – 4,436
10)YoshiRiko -4,317
11)YoshiMaru – 4,071
12)KanaShizu – 3,881
13)KanaEmma – 3,199
14)SetsuKari – 3,025
15)YouRiko - 2,911
16)ChikaRiko – 2,587
17)LanShio – 2,102
18)KotoUmi – 2,053
AiRinasis, we're still alive.
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>>3554862
holy shit yuPomu dominates that list, nothing on harukana?
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>>3554495
best kotoumi moments in the anime:
thanks for reading
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>>3554862
>10)YoshiRiko -4,317
>11)YoshiMaru – 4,071
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>>3554912
Sadly, HaruKana is outside the 10% of the highest daily rolling, so nothing.
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>>3554862
Insane that NicoMaki is still that high, though I'm most surprised that SumiKeke is second in views right now.
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>>3554953
That's discrimination against incest ships, sisters have the right to love each other, maybe S2 will push it more, altough is inconvenient for a LL girl to have her main ship outside of the group
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>>3555063
I am pretty sure HaruKana was in the 10% when S1 was airing but yeah I think HaruKana will be back within it when S2 will air, hopefully.
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>>3555094
hopefully with a vengeance worthy of the yuri equivalent of yosuga no sora. It's weird for them to push an incest ship
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>>3555119
Yandere Haruka confirmed. I guess, they wanted to try out and see if pushing an incest ship is worth it.
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>>3554953
>>3555063
Anon who made the ranking here, HaruKana actually does make the list, but I forgot to include it and only realised it after I had already posted the ranking.
I was hoping nobody would notice...
HaruKana - 3318
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>>3554862
>17)LanShio – 2,102
Impressive
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STOP THE COUNT! Well thanks anyways, I'm glad there's love for HaruKana, representing incest in LL
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the Yu-Ayumu-Shioriko-Lanzhu drama in S2 would be delicious
>cool Shioriko who keeps put Lanzhu on her leash and is very cordial to Ayumu
>pure Ayumu who views Shioriko as her little sister who needs her help but ultimately still committed to Yu
>Yu would be actually jealous of Shioriko
>Lanzhu notices that Shioriko is more comfortable to speak with Ayumu instead of her attempts to steal Yu
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>>3555318
fuck that, let shioriko go all the way and pin ayumu to a bed
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>>3555320
Kirifu....
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>>3555320
Don't make Lanzhu cry.
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>>3555318
To be honest, I want to see Ayumu be the "traitor" instead of DD.

>Ayumu gets jealous of the others (again) + concerned that Yuu is overworking herself doing work for the others
>Lanzhu comes in and does her thing, gets jealous (of Yuu primarily) that nobody wants to be friends with her / join her despite having the best skills + equipment
>Lanzhu notices Pomu being Pomu and steals/corrupts her by offering to actually make her be Yuu's no. 1 idol
>chaos

Ayumu and Shioriko should still have the same relationship as the one in the game. Both Yuu and Lanzhu will be jealous of their relationship.
Also Shioriko shouldn't join Lanzhu's team. She'll have her to idol or not to idol plot, and then join Yuu's team.
Basically, each leader will have the other's childhood friend in their team. Everyone will be jealous with everyone.
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>>3555364
>keeping the traitors plot thread
how about no
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>>3555371
There's nothing wrong with the traitors plot. It has intense drama. It has intense gay. It has the potential to be the best story in the franchise if executed well.

And it's infinitely better than the painfully boring AI generated plots that the Superstar writers are using for every episode.
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>>3555379
it paints them in a bad light if they're intentionally backstabbing each other, instead it should start with something positive like ayumu trying to branch out and try different things/get along with the rest of the girls, that leads her to help shioriko from time to time in he student council, meanwhile shio has to face great pressures as the stu-co and relies on ayumu a lot. That make shio interested in idols and sh eventually starts falling in love, I mean, look at ayumu, shioriko never stood a chance
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As fun as these scenarios are to delusion, in reality with 13 main characters who all need to get their moment to shine and the likely usual 13 episodes, there simply isn't enough time for it.
I actually forsee a large reduction in the amount of specific shipping focus in Niji S2 compared to S1, not out of malice on the part of the production team but out of necessity since the scale has now become too large. We may still get crumbs here and there, but they won't devote character arcs to it.
And honestly as much as we sometimes like to pretend otherwise, the focus of Love Live isn't romance/shipping/whatever, that has always been a bonus, so I'll be satisifed with whatever they decide to give us in S2.
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>>3555421
EmmaKarin, ShizuKasu, AiRina, and YuPomu already had their big episodes, but yeah, i still want an actual development for Ai and Emma
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>>3555421
I don't see how more character focus means less shipping focus.
If you forgot, most of the /u/ content in S1 happened in the character focus episodes.
A girl has a personal problem. Another girl helps her solve it. That's the majority of the S1 episodes. It should be harder to not make it /u/-related instead if they keep with this formula.

And they can even turn this screentime limitation into an opportunity.
The least /u/ episodes in S1 in my opinion were the ones where it's them as a group who solve the focus girl's problem (e.g. Karin and Rina's episodes).
So they should have most episodes be about two girls and mostly just those two girls (like the EmmaKarin and ShizuKasu episodes).
This would not only save time, but also increase the /u/ and give them breathing time for the end-of-season story arc.
The total number of solos will still be 12 by the way + 1 group insert song + 1 or more extra solo.

>And honestly as much as we sometimes like to pretend otherwise, the focus of Love Live isn't romance/shipping/whatever, that has always been a bonus, so I'll be satisifed with whatever they decide to give us in S2.
This kind of mentality gets us garbage like Superstar.
Yuri (or at least yuri subtext) has been a mainstay of this franchise since at least Sunshine. It's here to stay no matter how much the OG director hates it.
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>>3555421
>the focus of Love Live isn't romance/shipping/whatever, that has always been a bonus
From the perspective of the ones who are making it, sure. But personally speaking, the shipping is why I'm watching it. And I daresay that's true of many anons here.

If they decide to cut back on it I will be saddened.
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>>3555440
but Rina's episode has AiRina
and Ai's episode has EmmaKarin snippet
they can manage
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>>3555421
>the focus of Love Live isn't romance/shipping/whatever
Niji gave us the atomic bomb that's yuu pomu, it's simply a yuri ship for the ages
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AU. Otonokizaka Private Academy is nothing more than just a playground for daughters of wealthy families. Posing as a traditional elite school on the outside, the inner workings of Otonoki are far from traditional. After all, everything is different when you belong to the ruling elite of tomorrow.

Chapter 1: Prologue

"Hey, you. Your name's Tojo, right?"

Keeping her gaze on her lunch, she continued to eat in silence. If she didn't give them any attention, they would lose interest soon and leave her alone. It always worked like this.

"Hey, I'm talking to you," the nasal voice got impatient, "or did your folks never teach you how to be polite?"

While her left hand curled into a fist on her lap, her right hand kept handling her chopsticks, bringing food to her mouth that chewed slowly. She couldn't taste anything.

"See, this is why it's a bad idea to let commoners enter Otonoki, they don't even try to integrate-"

The shrill scraping of a stool against marble floors echoed in the room, followed by two hands slamming on the table. "Enough, Ishikii."

"Who d- Yazawa?"

Green eyes looked up in surprise at the mention of a familiar last name, and they widened when she recognized a distinctive face that she had seen in television before.

"You know, you can't really blame others for not integrating themselves into a community when you're the one who doesn't even give them a chance to."

Nozomi gave up pretending to eat, instead staring up at the short and black-haired girl in masked awe. Her voice wasn't as high-pitched as she remembered and her face didn't have the child-like glow that she was known for in the media.

"What? I was just trying to talk to her, but she didn't react at all, how am I the one at fault here?"

"Geez, your ignorance would give me a headache if I didn't already have one from your voice."
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>>3555537
Talking about her voice seemed to hit a sore spot and the girl dropped her innocent facade, looking down on Yazawa with disdain. "Don't get cocky, Yazawa. You're just one phone call away from expulsion."

"Go ahead, make that call," the shorter girl shrugged, "I fucking hate it here and can't wait to get out. You'd help me a lot actually."

Gritting her teeth, but lacking the wit to retort, the other girl turned on her heels and stomped away.

Nozomi let out an inaudible sigh of relief, feeling herself relaxing.

"Sorry you had to see that."

Nozomi swallowed when she realized that Yazawa had sat down opposite of her, scrutinizing her in mild curiosity. "And with 'that', I meant that demon brat."

Nozomi lowered her head and stared at her half-eaten lunch plate. "Thank you."

"Hm," her opposite acknowledged with a hum. "I haven't seen you around before, are you new here? Wait...You're the new scholarship student, aren't you? Todo Nagami wasn't it? I'm Yazawa Nico, but you already know that, judging the way you won't meet my eyes."

"Tojo Nozomi," came the quiet reply.

"Sorry?"

Clearing her throat, Nozomi raised her voice a little bit, "My name is Tojo Nozomi."

"Oh, my bad," her opposite named Nico apologized, "you were kind of mumbling when you introduced yourself this morning in class, and I was sitting in the last row."

Nozomi bit the insides of her cheeks.

"Why..." she trailed off, leaving her question unfinished as she refused to meet Nico's eyes. Why was Nico still here?

"Hah? Why what?"

But Nozomi didn't elaborate. Her mind automatically went through all the information she had on Yazawa Nico.

Third year, in the same class as her, daughter of an A-List super idol who was also famous overseas. Short, cute child-like appearance, but also easily angered and temperamental when things didn't go her way. Striving to become a super idol as well.
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>>3555542
Unsure if her honest opinion was wanted, Nozomi refrained from shaking her head. Indeed, Yazawa Nico differed from most of the students here in one aspect. She didn't come from an old, noble family; her last name had no meaning in the political and economic landscape of Japan, only to the commoners. She would never be able to attend the same circles as the noble and traditional families that had sent their beloved daughters to the most prestigious school for girls there was.

Otonokizaka Private Academy, or in short Otonoki Academy, was nothing more than a playground for the daughters of the elite. A place for them to socialize and tighten bonds with other future elites of the political and business world before they took over their family's businesses and political positions.

A school as exclusive as Otonoki prided itself on choosing only the best of the best, which was why each year, they only offered one spot for a scholarship student. Everyone else who wished to attend this school had to get a recommendation first by current students or alumna just to get a consideration. The deciding factors were of course the family background and their political ties. Each applicant was carefully selected after a thorough research on their background.

And it made Nozomi wonder, what had been the winning factors for Nico's admission? Her mother wasn't successful until her late twenties and despite her wide recognition in the music industry, she was not a powerful figure in terms of politics or economics. Her wealth was temporary; it wouldn't last a second generation unless Nico managed to surpass her mother. Her fame was just a fraction of time; the Yazawa name would be forgotten in thirty years or less. Incomparable to some of the Otonoki students' families that had existed for multiple generations.
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>>3555546
"I know what you're thinking," Nico said when Nozomi hadn't replied, lost in her thoughts. "I'm a joke compared to most of the girls here. And trust me, I don't even want to be here, but my mom wanted to give me the good education she never had. So I let her sign me up for here, I didn't think I'd get in. But the chairwoman of this school happened to be a fan of hers."

That explained a lot, Nozomi thought to herself. She was less hesitant about meeting Nico's eyes now, finding herself liking them. They were honest in expressing their feelings.

"So you really don't talk much, huh?" Nico asked her, tilting her head. "Or are you just overwhelmed by meeting all these snobs on your first day of school?"

Nozomi let out a quiet laugh before she quickly covered her open mouth with her hands, already feeling judging eyes on her.

"Don't care about them," Nico said without looking behind, knowing why Nozomi had suddenly become self-conscious about her laugh. "They wouldn't survive a minute in the real world. Besides, you're actually quite cute when you smile."

And Nozomi ducked her head with a blush. "Thank y-"

"We're – we're through!" A high pitched scream disrupted the calm air, and Nozomi only managed to catch a glimpse of the back of a girl that was running out of the school restaurant.

"What happened?" Nozomi asked in shock, trying to look over Nico's shoulder to see from what the girl had run away from.

A hand on her shoulder pressed her down in her seat. It was Nico. "Don't look if you're not searching for trouble."

"Eh?"

Nico scowled, and Nozomi flinched, not knowing that her face could form such a frightening expression.

"They will get up in exactly one minute and walk past here. Don't make eye contact."

Intimidated by whatever that was causing Nico to look this dark, Nozomi didn't dare to question her and focused her gaze on her lunch.
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>>3555485
If you count those then every episode had little moments like those.

I think those are what I miss the most from the Niji anime.
The little moments where the girls were just doing their things, being gay and all that, even when they weren't the focus of that particular episode.

In Superstar, we're lucky if we can even get a single vaguely gay moment in an episode. Most of the screentime was wasted on the unfunny jokes instead.
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>>3555549
Soon enough, the background noises in the school restaurant faded away until it was completely silent, and the sound of multiple heels pacing on marble floor echoed in the spacious room. Only few whispers here and there could be heard.

Whether the situation really called for this much tension or if Nico was projecting her own nervousness onto her, Nozomi didn't know, but she kept her head down like she had been instructed to. Out of the corner of her eyes, she could make out three tall figures walking past her, and a light breeze tickled her neck.

When the door to the school restaurant fell shut, the sound level of the room was back up again, louder than before. Everyone seemed to be whispering about the figures that had just left.

"Who are they?" Nozomi asked, too curious to hold back.

Nico seemed reluctant on giving her an answer. "All you need to know about them is that you need to stay away from them as far as possible. Their world is something you can't even begin to understand."

"But how can I stay away from them if I don't know who they are?"

The black-haired girl gestured to her to lean in closer, and Nozomi complied.

"Ayase Eli. Sonoda Umi. And worst of all, Nishikino Maki," Nico mumbled before leaning back, continuing in her normal voice again. "Their families have been around for over two hundred years. Their share of influence in our country is frightening to say the least. Why, you surely ask, you've never heard of their names before, they can't be that bad."

Nozomi forced a smile when she had been caught thinking exactly that. Nico sighed.

"Respected families like them don't play the publicity game. They pull the strings from the background, they don't stamp their names on every brand or company of theirs. They're nowhere yet everywhere."

Fascinated, Nozomi kept eyeing Nico with a hopeful look so she would explain further.
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>>3555551
"Oh, you're good," Nico faltered under Nozomi's intense gaze, "you could be an idol, you know. You've got that sultry look down."

"Eh?" Nozomi's cheeks flushed. "I- I didn't mean to -"

"I know," Nico interrupted before the flustered girl could stutter more in embarrassment, "I was joking. Not really. But for the sake of our conversation, let's pretend I did. Or don't you want to know more about the royal court of Otonoki?"

Nozomi folded her hands on the table. "Please tell me more."

"Alright, but that comes with a price." Nico smirked.

Nozomi blinked in uncertainty. "Price?"

"Yes, and that's the first rule you need to learn if you want to survive here among the rich." Nico stretched out her pointer finger. "Nothing comes without a price. If someone does you a favor, then you will be in their debt until you can repay them with a favor of equal worth. The most dangerous thing to do is to believe that they help you out of courtesy. These people here would charge you for allowing you to breathe the same air as them if they could."

Nico paused when she saw the incredulous look on Nozomi's face. "Shocking, eh?" Nico chuckled, propping her elbows on the table. "But all these kids here, they've been trained since birth to smile as bright as the sun so you'll be too blinded to see their razor sharp teeth. My advice for you? Stay clear of them."

Even without telling that bit, Nozomi would have chosen the same action.

"Now, since we're already talking about advice and rules," Nico continued, holding up two fingers. "Rule number two: In a world where we can literally bathe in money, offering us more money for favors is worthless. But there's one form of currency that we would always kill for." Nico wiggled with her fingers. "Secrets."

Not realizing how engrossed in Nico's explanations she was until she swallowed nervously, Nozomi cleared her throat and repeated questioningly, "Secrets?"
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>>3555555
Nico nodded once. "In the world of the rich, secrets directly translate to scandals. If something is a secret, it usually is bad stuff that needs to stay a secret. If it were good news, then everyone would already know."

Intrigued, Nozomi carefully asked, "Then, what is the price for letting me know more about Otonokizaka?"

Nico's smirk grew broader. "That's the catch. You never know when I might call you on that favor. It can be right now. It can be in half a year. But time won't make us even."

Gradually becoming unsure whether she was ready to pay a price she couldn't foresee, Nozomi didn't reply, torn about what to answer. She wanted to know more. But she didn't want to be in anyone's debt.

"Besides, it's too late for you anyway," Nico said with a grin. "You've become indebted to me the second I told you about all these rules."

Nozomi let out a feeble sound of protest, but she couldn't find a way to talk herself out of this situation.

"See how fast this happens?" Nico said. "You're lucky it's just me. I'm not planning to let you repay with a dirty favor. But you need to be more careful from now on because others won't be that generous."

Nozomi faced down, her voice quiet and meek as she stared at her lap. "I can't offer you anything of value."

An unexpected chuckle made her look up in surprise again.

With her chin propped on her fist, Nico tilted her head and said with a smirk, "Don't you think that this is something up to me to decide?" Her smile widened. "Besides, I already know of one way for you to fix this."

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"Where are the other students?" Nozomi wondered as she looked around in the empty gym. "Where is the teacher?"

"Teacher?" Nico laughed as she stretched her arms. "This isn't public school. Imagine the outrage if you let a refined lady sweat. Officially, we have P.E right now but we can actually do whatever we want. Most girls just skip it."
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>>3555557
Nozomi gave Nico an insecure look as if to ask her why they were here then if it wasn't a mandatory lesson.

"Ah, you see, if I want to become a super idol, I need to keep training my stamina and dance techniques. Usually I'm alone here but since you owe me a favor, I figured I'd give you the chance to get even right away," Nico cheekily stretched out her tongue. "Hope you don't mind giving me company?"

And Nozomi smiled. She truly didn't mind, actually glad that she had somewhere to stay without being alone.

"If you want, you can practice with me," Nico offered, but Nozomi declined with a polite shake of her head. "Well, if you're getting bored, there's a shack outside full of fancy sports equipment. Take whatever you like."

Nozomi's expression brightened, glad that there was something to do that didn't involve physical exertion. "I will take a look."

"Yeah, you do that," Nico said absently, scrolling through her phone to choose a song she wanted to practice with.

The storage shack for sports equipment resembled a small warehouse, Nozomi thought, as she approached the shack that was located in the middle of what was called the sports area, consisting of one gymnasium, one soccer field, two basketball courts, two swimming pools and four tennis courts. Despite occupying an astounding amount of square meters in absolute numbers, the sports section didn't make up more than one fourth of Otonokizaka's entire area.

Nozomi noticed that the door to the shack was open and she lightly knocked against it.

"Hello?" she called tentatively. She stepped inside. "Anyone there?"

A second of silence, then -

"Who wants to know?"

Startled, Nozomi stuttered, "T-Tojo Nozomi."

"Class?"

"Um, 3-A."

"Huh." A tall figure stepped out from behind a vaulting horse. "You are the new transfer student in my class."
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So gorgeous, was the first thing Nozomi thought upon seeing the other person approaching her. Golden hair, blue eyes, high cheekbones and a pointy chin; the definition of an aesthetic face by western standards. She had to have foreigner's blood in her.

"What do you want?"

Nozomi noticed a gold band around her left arm with the words 'student council' printed on them in bold characters and a clipboard in her hand.

"I – I have P.E -"

"So you want to find some equipment to train." Her tone was curt, her eyes barely showed any interest. "If you don't mind, I'm doing inventory here right now, so if there's anything you would like to take, tell me now."

Suddenly having to make a choice put Nozomi under too much pressure, and she stumbled a few steps backwards. "E-excuse me for intruding, I won't bother you anymore."

The blonde raised an eyebrow. "So you're not going to take anything?"

"No, no thank you," Nozomi stuttered. She bit her lip. What was she thanking for?

"Tojo."

"Yes!" Nozomi replied quickly in a high-pitched voice.

Taking a step closer towards her, the blonde scrutinized her face with a blank expression. "You shouldn't be here."

"Oh..." Nozomi averted her eyes nervously. "Yes, I should head back to the gy-"

"No," the blonde interrupted her. Her eyes narrowed. "You shouldn't be here in Otonokizaka. You don't belong here."

Nozomi clenched her teeth when she didn't know what to reply. She could feel the bridge of her nose heating up, could feel her eyes watering. She had been bracing herself for rejection ever since she had set foot on the new school ground, but to be confronted with it now when she least expected it knocked the air out of her body.
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"I don't know how you managed to get in," the student council member said tonelessly. "Maybe it was luck, maybe it was a miscalculation. But under normal circumstances, you wouldn't be here. Thousands of people apply for the scholarship every year, and I don't believe that there's no one else who wouldn't fit better in our school than you."

Nozomi couldn't hold back a sob, and a tear rolled over her red cheeks, but it didn't move the other girl. Her blue eyes watched on with an indifferent, empty look. "I don't know what the chairwoman sees in you. But I won't question her because she is never wrong. Maybe it's you who managed to fool her by pretending to be someone you're not. Whatever the case is, I won't tolerate it if you cheated your way in."

"No," Nozomi said between sobs, "I didn't cheat -"

"Then explain why you are crying right now." The blonde paced towards Nozomi in big strides until she towered over Nozomi. "Explain why you are so weak."

Nozomi faced down, watching her own tear drops fall to the ground, unable to bring a sound over her trembling lips. She didn't know why she couldn't run away. Her feet wouldn't move, they stood rooted to the ground and kept her frozen in place.

"You don't know this," the cold voice above her head whispered, "but our world works differently than the one you come from. Our world doesn't forgive mistakes. It doesn't recognize weakness as a trait that makes us human but rather as a parasite that we need to get rid off. And the sooner you realize that you don't belong here, the better. I'm just doing you a favor, Tojo."

"That is enough," a calm voice interjected from afar.
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Through teary eyes, Nozomi could make out a figure even taller than the blonde approaching them. It was a second year student from Otonokizaka judging by her red tie, and dark hair billowed behind the girl as her long legs took powerful strides towards them. Her graceful features showed no expression when her blank amber eyes peered down on the two people in front of her.

The blonde gave Nozomi a scoffing look before she turned to the other girl. "I merely gave her an introduction to this school. What brings you here?"

The second year held up a pink letter sealed with a heart stamp, which was enough of an explanation for the blonde, who sighed. "You do know that you are reaching your limit."

The dark-haired girl hardly moved her lips when she replied calmly, "I am aware."

"But you wouldn't raise the stake without a reason, I believe," the blonde said, nodding to the letter with an expectant look.

If Nozomi wasn't watching the second year's mouth moving, she wouldn't believe it was her talking because her unblinking eyes and hard expression gave the illusion of her face being chiseled in stone. "The Ishikii's."

The blonde frowned in thought. "Nikkei Index listed multi-media company, currently on a transnational expansion. Stock portfolio is diverse and solid, they've managed to secure a good share of some of the leading industries. Didn't Ishikii Hiroaki become one of the vice chairs of the Keidanren a year ago?"

Her opposite only nodded once in conformation.

Nozomi gazed between them wide-eyed. Did the rich have their own jargon to converse in?

Letting out a sigh again, the blonde shook her head and muttered, "I don't envy you."

"Only the foolish do," the taller girl replied in her low voice. "I'll be on my way then."
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She turned to Nozomi, who flinched and stumbled a step back, thinking she was going to receive the same harsh treatment from her as from the blonde. Closing her eyes, she braced herself for any insult on her social background, but nothing came. After seconds of silence, she carefully opened one eye just to see a handkerchief offered to her.

"Welcome to Otonokizaka Private Academy," the tall girl muttered. Her expression hadn't changed, her mouth was barely moving without the hint of a friendly smile. But as Nozomi slowly tilted her head back to be able to meet her gaze, a blush covered her cheeks when she found herself looking into soft amber eyes.

"I apologize for my friend's behavior. You must have great potential to be chosen for the scholarship."

Quickly gazing down again, Nozomi accepted the handkerchief with both hands and a quiet 'Thank you'.

Smoothing over her red tie, the second year nodded to Nozomi before she walked off without another word.

Nozomi wished she wouldn't have showed that side of hers towards an underclassman. But even without knowing that person's background, she could tell that the dark haired girl was no ordinary student as she had conversed with the blonde casually despite their hierarchical difference. Was it her height that made her so intimidating? Her calm and cold nature? Or the blank look in her eyes when she had held up something that was obviously a love letter, completely unimpressed by the weight of emotions the letter carried?

"It is because of actions like these that people misunderstand," the blonde mumbled before she glared at Nozomi and walked back into the gym storage room.

Nozomi held her breath, only allowing herself to exhale in relief once she couldn't see the other girl anymore. But the moment she calmed down enough to let herself think over what happened, she wanted the ground beneath her to open up and swallow her whole.
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Why had she cried? It wasn't the first time she had to deal with bullying, but why did she give in to tears so easily this time?

She thought she had become tougher ever since she had entered high school, but moments ago she had reverted back to her elementary school self who cried the moment she felt intimidated or overwhelmed.

"Why..." Nozomi whispered to herself, wiping at the dried tears on her cheeks when she remembered the handkerchief in her hands. Upon unfolding it, she realized that it was made of silk and there was a name stitched on it at the bottom.

Sonoda

Letting out a quiet gasp, Nozomi brought the piece of cloth closer to her eyes to make sure she hadn't misread. But the name didn't change. Stitched with golden threads, the letters were embroidered on the white cloth in cursive.

Was it the same person Nico had meant when she had listed the names she should stay away from? Was it the same Sonoda who had to be feared for her family background?

Lost in thoughts, Nozomi slowly walked back to the gym while staring at Sonoda's handkerchief, wondering what to do with it now.

"What took you so long?" Nico called out, and she stopped her dancing to run over to Nozomi, her face flushed and forehead dripping with sweat from the exercise. "What's that in your hands? I thought you were going to take something to – no way..."

Nico snatched the handkerchief from Nozomi's hands and turned away from the protesting girl.

"That's..." Nico slowly looked up at Nozomi with a frightened look. "Where did you get it?"

Trying to take the handkerchief back, Nozomi grabbed after it, but Nico jumped a step back and held it away from her.

"I said, where did you-"

"She gave it to me!"

"Sonoda gave it to you herself?" Nico asked in disbelief. "Why would she do that? When did you meet her? How?"

"Please give it back!" Nozomi attempted to snatch it back a second time, but Nico was swift in dodging her hands. "Nico!"
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"No, you don't understand," Nico hissed, holding the piece of cloth between two fingertips like it was dirty. "If anyone finds out that this is in your possession, you're as good as dead."

Nozomi let out an exasperated sound. "Just give it back, please."

"No, it's better if we burn this..."

"Eh? No!" Nozomi finally managed to catch the handkerchief and pulled it out of Nico's grasp. "I'm going to give it back to her. Now."

"No!" Nico exclaimed and grabbed Nozomi's arm to stop her from walking away. "Trust me, you can't. This won't end well."

Not understanding Nico at all, Nozomi shrugged off her hand. "Why?"

Nico let out a tired sigh. "I'm just looking out for you. But I see that I can't change your mind, so I just want you to at least listen to this one advice."

Nozomi gave her a wary look but didn't say anything, waiting for Nico to continue.

"Don't let anybody see you giving Sonoda her handkerchief back, you hear me? Nobody can know that she has lent it to you. Don't even try to talk to her when she's not alone."

Nico's grave tone about something so minor somehow amused Nozomi. "We are talking about a high school student and not a member of a mafia, are we?"

"We might as well be," Nico said without a hint of humor. It unsettled Nozomi.

"But she was the one who gave it to me in front of someone else, why do I need to be discreet about returning it?"

"Someone saw you?" Nico almost yelled in disbelief before she lowered her voice again. "Who? Who saw you and why are you still alive?"

Understanding things less and less, Nozomi decided she had enough of Nico's dramatic antics if she wasn't going to get an explanation soon. "I'm going now."

"Wait, Nozomi!"

But with the handkerchief tightly grasped in her hands, Nozomi marched out of the gym, determined to find Sonoda before her next class. Nico didn't follow her.
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It wasn't until Nozomi was standing in the middle of the large schoolyard that she realized she had no idea where to begin looking. A third of Otonokizaka's school ground was simply green area. Trees, bushes, flowerbeds and benches everywhere gave the illusion of a walk in the park when Nozomi wandered on various paths leading to an alpaca stable, an archery shooting range, a dojo, a pond with Koi swimming in it and a water fountain.

Sonoda could be anywhere on these large school grounds. Searching for her without a clue was only a waste of time, which Nozomi admitted to herself after arriving in front of the water fountain a third time.

She sat down on a nearby bench and pulled up her feet on it, hugging her legs. She didn't feel like going back to Nico. But Nico was her only classmate she could talk to. None of the other girls had made an attempt to approach her since she had introduced herself. Maybe they already disliked her for the same reason the blonde student council member couldn't stand to see her sight.

Just thinking of her made Nozomi feel uneasy. It wasn't like Nozomi could change anything about her background, she was born and raised in a middle-class family. Changing her personality to fit in Otonokizaka was an impossible feat. One couldn't simply acquire the attitude of a wealthy, socially eminent person without actually living that kind of life.

So maybe Nozomi wasn't strong according to the standards of a girl who had been born into this kind of life. But she knew she wasn't weak either or she wouldn't have been chosen for the scholarship.

"You're in my seat."

Nozomi startled and her head jerked up. "Excuse me?"

A scowling girl towered over her and sneered. "You're in my seat."

"I – I didn't know that the benches here were assigned to-"

"Well, now you know," the girl interrupted her, running a hand through her red hair. "Get up."
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Nozomi noticed she wasn't wearing a tie, which violated the school's dress code that required them to wear their ties as a means of grade identification.

Why should Nozomi obey someone who didn't obey the rules herself? She was tired of being treated like she was inferior, like she didn't belong here. Her admittance wasn't an accident, she had been sitting in the chairwoman's office for two hours, trying to explain why she thought she deserved to be here. And even though she herself hadn't believed in getting in after failing to answer some of the simplest questions, there had to be some winning factors for her or the chairwoman wouldn't have chosen her. The whole time she had been interviewed, she had felt the older woman's wise eyes on her, gauging every reaction and expression of hers. Whatever the chairwoman had seen in her, it was no mistake.

"No," Nozomi felt herself saying before she could stop it. Her heart instantly sunk in her stomach.

"No?"

Purple eyes narrowed as they scrutinized Nozomi's face. "I haven't seen you before." She stepped onto the bench with one foot and leaned forward, preventing Nozomi from leaving. "You must be new here, so let me explain a few things to you."

Apprehensive, Nozomi leaned back, but couldn't increase the distance to the scary girl by much.

"First, I do own the bench you're sitting on. Half of the school is owned by my family."

"I – I didn't know -"

"I figured. Otonokizaka might still be operating under the Minami name, but they no longer have any say in how to manage this school." The red-haired girl smirked. "When I said that you're in my seat, I wasn't joking."

"Could you get anymore cliche, Nishikino."

Nozomi's eyes widened when she recognized Nico's voice.

Nishikino turned away from Nozomi and scowled at the black-haired girl approaching them. "Yazawa."
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Nico crossed her arms and glared back, seemingly unafraid. Her defiant stance baffled Nozomi as she clearly remembered Nico telling her that a certain Nishikino was the worst between the three people she had to avoid the most.

"What's the point of being so rich if you still dress like a homeless person," Nico scoffed.

A lop-sided smirk formed on Nishikino's face. "What I wear is something I can choose. But being pathetic is a state you'll never get out of."

Holding her breath, Nozomi wondered if she should get a teacher. But if Nishikino really was as untouchable as she had implied, then no one would want to interfere.

"You are calling me pathetic?" Nico let out an empty laugh. "I'm not the one who hates my own family but still uses their name to feel powerful. Can you be more of a contradiction?"

"Shut up," Nishikino growled, dragging one foot forward as her shoulders stiffened in an aggressive stance.

"Oh, did I touch a sore spot?" Nico asked mockingly. "Little Maki hates bearing the pressure of being a Nishikino and yet won't give up being one because of the privileges. You are the pathetic one and you know it."

And Nishikino lunged at Nico, grabbed a fistful of her collar and pulled her up. "Shut up!"

Nozomi jumped to her feet to intervene, but someone had beat her to it.

"Enough."

A figure one head taller than Nishikino split the two apart with an effortless pull at the back of their collars.

Nozomi's right hand automatically reached for the handkerchief inside her pocket upon recognizing the person.

"Physical altercation is not how we do things," Sonoda calmly said in her low voice. "Don't forget the image you're portraying to outsiders."

"Like hell I care," Nishikino spat, shrugging out of Sonoda's grasp. "You're not my mother."
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"If she were your mother, you wouldn't have dared to talk back like that," Nico threw in tauntingly, and stepped back when Nishikino aggressively stomped forward but couldn't get far as Sonoda held her away with an arm.

"We don't get into petty fights," Sonoda said, her voice neutral.

Nico glared up at the second year at the implication of being 'petty', but didn't talk back as the enormous height difference served enough to instill respect.

"Whatever," Nishikino hissed, and she pushed Sonoda's arm away from her, walking off with both hands tucked inside her trouser pockets.

Sonoda let out a low sigh and set out to walk in the same direction when she noticed Nozomi standing in front of her, holding out her handkerchief with two hands.

"Thank you," Nozomi said quietly, unable to meet Sonoda's eyes. "I didn't use it, so I hope it's okay if I return it like this."

Accepting her own handkerchief with a nod, Sonoda tucked it inside her blazer and walked off without another word.

"Nozomi," Nico breathed out in relief. The tough and challenging expression she had put up in front of Nishikino was gone.

"I," Nozomi managed a small smile. "Thank you. For standing up for me. Again."

Nico waved her off with a hand. "You're one of the few decent people around here, I didn't want you to transfer school after one day."

An incredibly warm feeling enveloped Nozomi's heart, and she pulled Nico in for a hug, which was the only way she knew how to express her gratefulness without choking on her words.

"Eh?" Surprised, but not displeased, Nico pretended to put up a fight against the show of affection, but smiled against Nozomi's shoulder.

"Thank you," Nozomi whispered again, squeezing Nico once before she let go. "I was scared of coming to this school...I didn't know what to expect. So thank you for being there for me."

Nico gave her a lopsided smile. "You know I can't always be around."
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"I know," Nozomi mumbled, already dreading the moment she had to face a new situation within this school without a familiar face by her side.

"I really want to tell you that things will get better, that you will get used to here," Nico muttered, swallowing. "But I can't. Things are only just beginning for you."

Unsure if the other girl was being dramatic again, Nozomi wanted to laugh it off, but Nico looked up with a sad smile, and her laugh died in her throat.

"Otonokizaka is not the great place you think it is. Don't let your guard down, we're not dealing with normal high school students here."

"I know," Nozomi muttered. She had already encountered three of those scary students today, two of them had not held back with questioning her existence on these school grounds.

But at the end of the day, Otonokizaka Private Academy was still just a school. What else was there for Nozomi to fear besides low grades and unfriendly classmates?

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"Maki."

"Tsh," Maki pressed out between gritted teeth, not looking behind her as she paced towards the only room where she could bear to stay around for long. "Would you stop following me, Umi?"

"I'm not following you."

Casually strolling behind her, Umi's long legs easily kept up with Maki's fast pace without much exertion. "You happen to go my way."

Maki glanced to the side. "Since when do you hang out in the music room? Don't you have some girls to entertain right now?"

Umi's jaw tensed. "I'm afraid I don't like what you are implying."

"Well, I don't give a shit," Maki muttered, scratching her throat. The itchy feeling she had since morning hadn't disappeared even after shedding her tie and opening her collar. "It's not like you don't know my opinion on that."

Umi's expression didn't stir. "I suppose not."
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They arrived at a large double door with golden knobs. Maki fumbled inside her pockets for a key. "Even you have your limits, you know." She unlocked the door and pushed it open. "You can't play this game forever. It's going to blow up in your face."

Umi followed Maki into the room and closed the door behind them. "I am aware."

"I seriously don't know what you're thinking. But I guess that's none of my business." Maki shrugged off her blazer and threw it carelessly on one of the cushioned armchairs positioned around a white grand piano. "Especially if it's dirty business."

"You make it sound dubious." Umi sat down in the armchair closest to the piano and crossed her legs.

"Is it not?" Maki asked with a raised eyebrow at Umi, stretching her fingers before she sat down on the piano stool and opened the lid. "You're basically three-timing – no wait, didn't Ishikii confess to you today? You can't reject the Ishikiis. That's political suicide. So you're a four-timing asshole right now, and believe me, no matter how you look at it, I don't think there's a clean way out."

Closing her eyes, Umi pinched the bridge of her nose with her thumb and pointer finger. "I am not upholding four relationships simultaneously."

"Yeah, yeah," Maki muttered dismissively, wiping at the ivory keys with a silk cloth that she had pulled out of her pockets. "You're still going to regularly meet up with them though, so what's the difference. Even if you keep saying it's not a date, it is one. At least to them."

"I believe I made my emotional unavailability clear," Umi replied tonelessly. "Unlike you."

Maki shot a side glance at her. "You know damn well that I don't bother to play the two-sided game like you do. It's not my fault when they interpret too much into something I never said."

Gazing at the piano keys again, she placed her fingers on them. "Besides, they are more interested in the heir of the Nishikinos than in me. Don't you think that they are the cruel ones?"
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>>3555604
And her fingers slammed down on the keys and struck a powerful chord, lingering for a few seconds before they began to play a bold and fast melody without one note jumping out of the harmonic range. Umi noticed she was improvising, reflecting the agitated emotions in her heart through a sequence of fast changing chords and the repetitive striking of high notes.

Respecting the unspoken rule of not speaking up during a performance, Umi stayed silent, knowing that Maki had cut off their conversation purposely. Instead she closed her eyes and crossed her arms, focusing on enjoying the performance.

Halfway through the improvised melody, the pace slowed down and the tones became quieter and softer.

Maki finished her song on a single, low note, letting it fade out by stepping on the right pedal beneath her feet.

Clapping filled the room.

Maki turned her head to Umi, whose arms were still crossed. She nodded to the door.

"It's been a long time since I heard you play." A tall figure with blonde hair tied up in a high ponytail entered the room. "It was very moving."

"Thanks, I guess," Maki said with a shrug. "What are you doing here?"

"I can't check up on my friends?"

"No," Maki said bluntly. "The Ayase Eli I know doesn't just stop by to say hello. What do you want?"

The blonde sighed and walked across the room to sit down in an armchair next to Umi. "Nothing in particular."

"Now you're just bothering me," Maki said. "Spit it out."

Eli raised an eyebrow. "Since when do you care?"

"I don't," Maki replied. "But the only socially acceptable action for me right now is pretending I care. So how about you tell me what's bothering you and I nod in fake empathy. And once you feel reassured that you've got my support, we can go back to minding our own business."

Eli stared at her. "Do I detect a bit of narcissism?"

Maki smirked. "Only a bit?"

Umi cleared her throat. "Maki."
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>>3555606
"What," Maki shrugged. "I'm just tired of playing along in games like these. If you have something to say, then say it. If you don't want to tell me, okay, that's fine. But don't try to pull the 'being mysterious' crap because believe me, you're not that interesting."

Eli let out a low growl. "My hands might be bound from giving you a bloody nose, but don't think you are untouchable just because you are a Nishikino."

"So I'm primarily a Nishikino to you," Maki said coldly.

"Just as I am primarily Ayase to you," Eli responded accordingly, crossing her arms. "You didn't think I would voluntarily befriend someone with a character as foul as yours?"

"No, I figured you were like the rest," Maki narrowed her eyes. "And believe me, I wouldn't put up with your bullshit for one second if your last name wasn't spelled Ayase."

"The feeling is mutual," Eli replied calmly. "And since you can't change anything about our arrangement, why don't you start with respecting your seniors?"

"I already am."

"Your respect is false at best."

"Yeah, befitting a fake ass like you."

In a matter of seconds, Maki and Eli were standing nose to nose, grabbing each other by their collars as their eyes met in a furious glare.

Umi merely blinked once at the new development but didn't move to get up from her armchair and interfere.

"What is your problem?" Eli hissed, using her height advantage to threateningly tower over Maki, but Maki was hardly impressed by their physical difference.

"My problem?" Maki spat, shoving Eli away. "You think I only have one?"
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>>3555609
"Oh, want to cry about it?" Eli said mockingly. "Does Nishikino have troubles that no one else could ever come close to understand because most people are too shallow and superficial? Oh, do try to enlighten us simple-minded fools with your deep, intellectual problems. Let me guess, it's not death you fear, but meaninglessness in life, isn't it? The universe sure is unfair, singling you out and making you suffer through this existential crisis alone."

With an angry roar, Maki swung her fist at Eli's right eye but hit an open palm instead. Eli blinked in confusion when Umi was suddenly standing next to her, absorbing Maki's punch with her hand.

"You need to control your violent tendencies," Umi said lowly, not letting go of Maki's fist when she struggled against the grip.

"And you need to keep out of my fucking business," Maki said angrily, trying to shake off Umi's grasp on her fist.

"Thank you, Umi, but I saw that coming," Eli said, crossing her arms. "I would have dodged it."

"Your unprepared stance told me otherwise," Umi responded neutrally. "Maki, calm down."

"I'm least likely to calm down when you tell me to," Maki hissed, but she had stopped struggling against Umi's grip. "I'm fine now. Just had a sudden urge to punch Ayase in the face like usual."

After having her right hand released, Maki flexed her fingers to stir the circulation because Umi's grip on her had been mercilessly tight to suppress any chance of breaking free. She hissed when her hand got numb at all the blood rushing back into it. "Was that really necessary?"

Despite looking unapologetic, Umi still offered a short apology.

Eli furrowed her brows. "Umi is right. Your aggressive tendencies are beginning to show more often."

"I said I'm fine," Maki turned away from them, walking to the piano. "I just didn't have many chances to play the piano lately."
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>>3555610
Sensing that there was more than that, Eli intended to question further, but Umi put a hand on her shoulder without looking at her. Eli closed her mouth and remained silent.

They listened to more improvisations by Maki, knowing that music was the only way she could openly express herself, the only way she could convey her feelings when words failed her. They were no professional musicians themselves, but they felt the raw emotion in Maki's piano pieces, and they could understand what she was trying to tell through her melancholic melodies.

It was a story that all of them could relate to too well.

It was the story of being trapped but unable to escape.

And Otonokizaka Private Academy was only the first chapter of their life set inside a golden cage, where they ruled like an emperor but felt like a slave.
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Why the fuck are you spamming a whole ass fic in the thread. Just post a link to it if you want other anons to read it.
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Why is there a novel in this thread
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>>3556063
I assume Sunshine is the one whit bad ratings on the last episose of each season, right?
I never thought that Sunshine had such bad ratings on both finales.
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>>3556221
I remember everyone hating the S1 finale because so much time was spent on the play, where everyone just recap everything that happened in S1. I don't think it was a terrible idea, but it felt like it was there to eat time.
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>>3556063
Why do people like the muse seasons and hate Sunshine so much?
Like, I know that Sunshine has problems, but most of the problems were inherited from the muse seasons in the first place. For the most part Sunshine was a vast improvement.

But to be fair, I have forgotten nearly everything about the muse seasons. The only thing I remember was the movie, which was the second worst anime movie I have ever seen (the worst being the Starlight movie).
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>>3556347
Idols without the idol bullshit (producers, "show business", etc)
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But Sunshine was that too.
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But OG Love Live was the first one that come with the idea
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>>3556370
>KanaShizuKasu
i miss the time when the most sought-after girl in PDP was Shizuku
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>>3556367
Then why was it rated better than something similar but arguably done better?
Being the first shouldn't mean anything.
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>>3556380
Sunshine had bigger expectations than OG, Og just needed to be something new and entertaining, Sunshine needed to be much better than OG on everything.
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>>3556382
Sunshine also came out after the surprise disbandment of μ's, so you had some fans being harsher than usual.
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>>3556382
Yeah that makes sense.

But that begs the question of why Superstar is generally rated higher that Sunshine, when it's much more of an unoriginal copy of OG than Sunshine ever was.
And it's right after Niji too, so the expectations should be higher than ever.
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>>3556387
Not really. All Sunshine S1 episodes have been rated higher than Superstar episodes (except episode 3). Most Superstar episodes have similar ratings as Sunshine S2 episodes. If you notice, at least Sunshine S1 had a good rating, although the average rating dropped too much due to the last episode.
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>>3556387
The new shiny thing is always rated better than the previous ones as long as its new and shiny. Once it stops being new, the numbers drop and people start being more critical of it.
Also
>begs the question
*raises, begging is something different.
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>>3556382
Sunshine S1 was better than OG S1 imo. Many of their plots were similar but developed better except for EP3 Star Dash. The introductory episodes were more personal, the silly dramas weren't as silly as OG. Even the school closing plot was important.

The problem with S2 in addition to ship pandering, it used too many episodes in drama. The drama wasn't really that bad, but it gave less episodes for SoL/character development moments. If they could have maintained the quality of S1 or even have 24 episodes so that there is enough time for the drama and the plots of each character, the season wouldn't have been so weak.
Songs kept getting better and better though.
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>>3556434
>Ai x Setsuna
leftover pals...
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>>3556387
>>3556418
Sunshine suffers from Splash Star syndrome. Splash Star was so similar to Futari Wa design and premise-wise that even though it had a more balanced story with arguably better character development, it reminded people too much of Futari Wa for it to be seen for its merits. If someone watched Sunshine (S1 at least) without having watched any LL prior, they might quite like it. However if you watch it coming out of SIP the similarities (gathering 9 girls, school shutting down, very similar story beats for the first few episodes) make it hard to not see it as a reskin of the first series.
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Rare DiaLeah.
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>>3556771
>Oh! Love Triangle yozora ni hikaru hoshi ga mittsu~
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>>3556771
Third wheel Ai.
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>>3556471
Sunshine S1 was actually kind of a deconstruction of the muse seasons.
I liked that aspect of it. And I've always disliked how weirdly self-congratulatory the Muse seasons felt, and now Superstar too.
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>>3557059
Subtle lesbianism like this is hot.
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>>3557125
guess Kitaku really needs to include R3birth girls this time
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My friends and I have been having a debate between ShizuKasu and Setsukasu. Which one do you guys think is cuter?
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>>3557132
>ShizuKasu
Cute and canon
>SetsuKasu
Dumb and crack
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>>3557132
Anything with Kasumi can never be cute. Shizuku is for Drama Prez and Setsuna for Yuu.
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>>3557141
Zzz typical Nico/Yoshiko/Kasumi haters and their crackships
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>>3557142
Shizuku is canonically Drama Prez's mistress.
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>>3557144
>canonically
You don’t know what that word means
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>>3557141
>Setsuna x Yuu
Dead ship.
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>>3557132
Setsuna and Kasumi are longtime rivals (cool vs smile)
Shizuku and Kasumi are bestfriend-turned-lover (pure and smile)
so the latter obviously
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>>3557147
>implying it was ever alive
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>>3557149
If you want real rivals that's setsukarin, Karin literally calls Setsuna her Dear rival.
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>>3557132
>setsukasu
This ship has no sense at all, go for shizukasu because they're cute and not ooc.
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>>3557152
SetsuKarin rivalry is game-only
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>>3557147
>>3557151
Setsuna is Yuu's mistress just as Shioriko is Ayumu's mistress.
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>>3557167
Setsuna only sees Yuu as her little sister only. Also, in anime it showed that she's not interested and she ships yuupomu.
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>>3557166
Setsuna and Karin are literally friends in Karin's episode, they had moments together not like setsukasu.
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All of the Setsuna ships are kinda boring, not gonna lie.
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I'm surprised they never really pushed a ship for Setsuna, at least in the anime. She doesn't necessarily need one, but I just expected it with all the screentime she was given.
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>>3557184
Setsuna is too childish and needs a oneesama to guide her towards adulthood but Emma and Karin have their own ship and Kanata has a real sister to (fuck) dote.
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>>3557177
Perhaps maybe because she's an asexual lesbian? She's still waiting for that person in the game.
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>>3557189
>asexual
Dumb memeshit
SetsuVP for life
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>>3557177
SetsuKarin is good.
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>>3557188
VP is a sweet person and she looks like a motherly type, I like her for Setsuna.
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>>3557184
>at least in anime
Sis, she's so lonely in the game. I can't believe you don't see how she was out of place in the main story.
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>>3557184
SetsuKasu is Setsuna's popular ship. They had some cute moments together in the anime, but not enough to rival ShizuKasu. Some of the anime artists seem to support it, though. And Setsuna's recent bond story in AS was filled with SetsuKasu.

https://twitter.com/kei_watan/status/1317518862057795586
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>>3557218
Post the one where Setsuna just killed Kasumi from the same artist.
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>>3557222
>>3557220
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One change I really like in the anime is that Setsuna becomes completely serious when in Nana mode. There's no real distinction in the game, but Setsuna and Nana are the complete opposite of each other in the anime. It makes for fun interactions with Kasumi in the anime.
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>>3557225
Twitter link, in case you want it.

https://twitter.com/kei_watan/status/1335223707959058435
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>>3557230
>>3557227
>>3557220
>seem to support it
Not this artist.
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>>3557236
>kanaemma
>setsukarin
He knew.
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>>3557236
>thigh grab

Shizuku is truly the lewdest Niji.
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>>3557169
>Setsuna only sees Yuu as her little sister
That makes it hotter. And it's a total waste for a wota not to fuck the idol she likes at least once.
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>>3557189
>asexual lesbian
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>>3557177
>>3557184
>>3557203
If Vice doesn't get a name in S2, we riot.
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>>3557195
>>3557290
Just think of she's not into romance like a shounen protagonist but soon she'll find a partner that's good for her.
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>>3557236
cute AiRina
>>3557351
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+learn+english
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>>3557381
In other words it's called demisexual if you still don't get it.
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>>3557386
Or maybe she is a late bloomer, like Koito Yuu. Do you remember that shitstorm?
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>>3557388
You should know Setsuna well, She is just a kind of girl that acts like a shounen protag, even in her fantasy AU said that she's more into cool stuffs than romance.
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>>3557396
If that was true then any human that doesn't think of sex and/or romance when they meet other people is demisexual, but that's not true irl and I doubt it's true in this case, she isn't Goku.
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>>3557399
>but that's not true irl
Pretty sure many of them are loyal to their lover, though.
>she isn't Goku
She isn't, but that's literally her personality trait just to be different from the other idols.
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>>3557386
>demisexual
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>>3557514
It doesn't, it's just teenagers wanting to be unique snowflakes as usual. And don't post that shit here, and lurk more, faggot.
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>>3557537
Which doesn't make them "demisexual", it makes the, the appropiate non-snowflake orientation, and most likely bisexual if they can be attracted to both genders.
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>>3557537
Please grow up
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>>3557551
Not really a bait when its literally says their differences.
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>>3557220
>SetsuKasu is Setsuna's popular ship
Maybe 2 years ago it was. SetsuKasu, SetsuKarin, and KarinKasu were all among the biggest ships prior to All Stars and Anigasaki because of the way the first promotional 4koma were set up. The Nijis were split into groups of 3 and the most interesting group ended up being SetsuKarinKasu (no surprise that the artist of their 4koma became the artist of Nijiyon). Early Niji fans latched onto any permutation of the three girls. Any momentum these ships had disappeared as soon as the anime aired. You can even see fanartists who transitioned from SetsuKasu to ShizuKasu on twitter/pixiv.
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>>3557386
>dem*sexual
But she isn't even interested in a single person. She's a self absorbed asexual chuuni like Yohane
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>>3557220
>>3557227
They only have fanarts because they're the most popular characters in Niji. They didn't even have comfortable moments like setsukarin did in the game. Before the game and anime Kasumi's seiyuu even told them to "stop flirting with eachother" while Karin's seiyuu and Setsuna's seiyuu were hugging. Kasumi was the thirdwheel in dengeki trio.
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>>3557616
Maybe not but Setsuna's fantasy AU hinted that she's in love with the Princess only, Setsuna just haven't found that person yet in her world.
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>>3557396
That's really the main problem of Setsuna ships. The Setsuna part of her character is just kinda dull to be honest.
Her ships when considering only the Setsuna part of her are just the "rivalry" ships, which imo does not work as well in yuri as in BL.

In my opinion, the interesting Setsuna ships are the ones that involve the serious Nana part of her, and how she has to juggle between these two personalities.
Basically YuuSetsu, ShioSetsu, or SetsuVP.
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>>3557635
>Setsuna ships are the ones that involve the serious Nana part of her,
You forgot setsukarin, Karin literally talked to Nana before in both anime and nijiyon , you could also say that ShioSetsu are rivals too so that leaves to YuuSetsu and SetsuVP.

It only works well for Setsuna if she's being ship with the non-idol and her fan because of her gimmick (disguise)
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>>3557636
>you could also say that ShioSetsu are rivals too so that
I was thinking of Shioriko and Nana's initial conflict in the election, but yeah their interactions lately were just the usual idol rivalry stuff too.
Yeah, you're right.
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Another absolutely pointless episode.
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>>3557709
hopefully next episode would solve it
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>>3557711
Yeah I hope so too. It's not like this week's the finale or anything, right?
They can still turn it around and maybe even add yuri while they're at it.
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>>3557711
>>3557713
Superstar only has 12 episodes.
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>>3557715
It's joke
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>>3557709
Maybe it wasn't completely a pointless episode, but it doesn't feel like a final episode at all.
I'm disappointed. Liella had the potential to be an incredible series, and I was really hyped after the first 3 episodes. But after seeing this rehash of SnowHa ...
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i miss them
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>>3557719
I'm going to miss KuuKaa. Yeah it's fucking dead now but it was the best interaction SuperStar had by far and had one of the best episodes of all LL series
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>>3557718
It was a completely pointless episode. Try describing what the episode was about without thinking to yourself, wait was that it?
But to be fair that's nearly all of this season's episodes.

>>3557721
>but it was the best interaction SuperStar had by far
Not a high bar to clear, but yeah.

>and had one of the best episodes of all LL series
Umm that's debatable. I'd still rate some Sunshine episodes and maybe all of the Niji episodes above episode 3 (and 1 too if that's the episode you're thinking about)
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Oh great snow halation is trending on twitter now.
I've always thought that it was a meh song. This will be unbearable.
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>>3557724
>Try describing what the episode was about without thinking to yourself, wait was that it?
they lost
again
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>>3557730
Don't forget how that now the school isn't in peril anymore because they're just so great (and also money from daddy).
It's definitely not an exact copy of what happened in the end of OG S1, no ma'am.

Makes you think why they even needed to rehash that plot point again. It was never relevant after the episode that it was introduced until this one scene in this episode.
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>>3557733
>Blatant Deux ex machina
>In Love Live
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>>3557739
we already has Keke suddenly being a massive bitch and bully to Sumire
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>>3557739
It's one thing to use a deus ex machina.
It's another thing to use the exact same deus ex machina again.
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>>3557742
OG S1 doesn't have a deux ex machina. They had a objective and a way to pursue it in universe, they succeeded and end of the conflict. Here we don't even know what was the real problem. The school was in risk to close? it was Ren's propiety over the school or the legacy of her mother what was at risk? The conflict is ambiguous as fuck
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Seems like the talk about SuperStar S1 finale is a lot quieter than one would expect, but it also happened on day two of CYaRon's live performance. I've already seen one comment where they felt the finale fell flat. I don't know. I know the animators did their best (and this comment makes me think that SuperStar had production problems similar to Anigasaki).

https://twitter.com/kamatamanankotu/status/1449700443139952646

But the writing, overall, was surprisingly lacking. As many have said, the show had great promise in its first three episodes, bit then slowly lost it. The two-part Ren drama, in particular, significantly killing the momentum. I wonder how much of this can be blamed on doing the anime first, with little outside material to draw and improve on.
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>>3557749
Slowly? It was a complete trainwreck ever since that retarded island episode.

>I wonder how much of this can be blamed on doing the anime first, with little outside material to draw and improve on.
No, it's the director. Superstar had the same horrible level of writing as the muse seasons.
He's simply a hack. Why the hell did they bring him back?

He's also a yuri hater too, seeing how decidedly not yuri both the muse seasons and Superstar was.
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>>3557751
>He's simply a hack. Why the hell did they bring him back?
People love µ's, so obviously it's because of his writing, right? And then he turns Superstar into nothing but µ's references. Emphasis on the "nothing."
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>>3557761
half of this episode has been SnowHa rehash so...
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>>3557761
To be fair, Sumire and Chisato's entire characters are Yoshiko and You respectively, instead of muse references.
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>>3557765
Tbf Sumire is more like Nico and Chisato's story is writed as a fanfiction made by a Youfag and YoshiRikofag
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>>3557770
Sumire's behavior is literally just Yoshiko, just swap the chuuni with the showbusiness thing and then give her an annoying catchphrase.

Kasumi's the one who's more like Nico. A much more tolerable Nico that is, but still.
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>>3557774
>Kasumi's the one who's more like Nico
Not really. Kasumi doesn't have a reason to be like that like Nico and Sumire do. Kasumi is just a brat being a brat, Nico doesn't have a father and had problems with her idol club and Sumire has low selfsteem after being always relegated to secondary roles.
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>>3557749
The way the director retconned so many early stuff to push SumiKeke and ChisaKanon was horrible as well. There's just five girls, but some of them barely interacted with each other.
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>>3557780
I was talking about their respective behaviors, not whatever sob backstory they had to justify them.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but Yoshiko also had a sob backstory of being born unlucky or whatever.

Also Kasumi's not a brat. Unlike the other three, she actually knows when to shut up.
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>>3557790
>I was talking about their respective behaviors
>not whatever sob backstory they had to justify them.
But that's important for the audience, Sumire improved a lot for me after knowing her backstory.
>And correct me if I'm wrong, but Yoshiko also had a sob backstory of being born unlucky or whatever.
That was just a excuse.
>Also Kasumi's not a brat. Unlike the other three, she actually knows when to shut up.
In the case of Kasumi is the "universe" and her own actions that make her shut up.
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>>3557733
The subtitles have not yet been released, perhaps in a few hours the number of people talking about the episode will increase.
The quality of the animation in the first episodes was quite high, especially the detailed and colorful backgrounds, after a few weeks they decreased considerably.
Bad writing problems are NEVER the fault of the animators but of the writers / directors
> the show had great promise in its first three episodes
I honestly don't know what went wrong. The dynamics of the first 3 episodes were really good but it is completely the opposite of what happened in EP5-12, it was a sudden change.
>>3557724
>Umm that's debatable. I'd still rate some Sunshine episodes and maybe all of the Niji episodes above episode 3
Maybe EP 3 is not that strong by itself, but the full arc was fucking good imo, I prefer to wait a few days after this season ending to explain it better. Could you give me some examples? I can think of WBNW ep or S1 Hana / Ruby ep. I'm glad to see more anons can appreciate the good things about Sunshine
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Anime Kasumi is not a brat. AS Kasumi is definitely a brat.
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>>3557800
and AS Kasumi got BTFO hard on chapter 20
hope Anime Kasumin wouldn't have that happened to her, she has Shizuku
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>>3557797
>Sumire improved a lot for me after knowing her backstory.
>That was just a excuse.
Sumire's was as bad as an excuse as Yoshiko's.
People who have low self-esteem don't usually become attention whores like her. She just acts like a narcissist to me.

>In the case of Kasumi is the "universe" and her own actions that make her shut up.
I was talking about how she can "read the room" and not act obnoxious when the situation calls for it.
Nico, Yoshiko, and Sumire are obnoxious 24/7.

And in my opinion, Kasumi's brand of obnoxious is not even that obnoxious, especially compared to the other three.
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>>3557804
>Sumire's was as bad as an excuse as Yoshiko's.
In no way "I have bad luck, poor me" is the same as having actual selfsteem issues.
>People who have low self-esteem don't usually become attention whores like her.
That's jus a coping mecanism, the same coping mecanism of Asuka from NGE btw.
>I was talking about how she can "read the room" and not act obnoxious when the situation calls for it.
That's writers fault, they give them the screentime to Nico, Yoshiko and Sumire to do that.
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>>3557765
Sumire is a "less" cringy version of Yoshiko, at least her episode was really good.But
Chisato is the most deprived member of the group.
Even if they weren't well developed, the backstory of the other members was interesting.

>Kanon: "stage fright won't let me sing even though I really it"
>Keke: "All my life I was being pressured by my parents to study and finally I found something that I love"
>Sumire: "I have a selfish and spoiled behavior, but it's cuz I don't have confidence in myself for failing so many times when I was a child"
>Ren: "I loved my mother so much so I want to keep the school running to preserve her legacy"
>Chisato: "Kanon is my childhood friend, that's all"
She is an almost exact clone of You.The only difference:she isn't a cuck
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>>3557798
Even in Jap twitterland it's way too quiet for a season finale.
And a lot of the tweets are just genwunners gushing about how much the episode "respects" muse, ugh.

>Could you give me some examples? I'm glad to see more anons can appreciate the good things about Sunshine
Despite it's many flaws, I've always been a Sunshine apologist
I especially liked the big character/pairing arcs, like the ChikaRiko arc, KanaMari arc (controversial opinion, yeah), and the S2 RubyLeah/sisters arc.
I also liked some individual episodes like Hanamaru's S1 episode, Dia's S2 episode, Chika's S2 episode, etc.
The main story episodes in both seasons I feel are generally better than the ones in OG and Superstar.

I did not like You's episode though. No attempt at communication between You and Chika + unearned resolution. It was a lot like Superstar episode 11 if you think about it, which I absolutely hated.
The dog episode wasn't that bad. It was the episodes after it which were when the YoshiRiko pandering becomes unbearable.
Hated S2's finale for that lazy bone thrown at YouRiko shippers. Fuck that noise.
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>>3557809
All of those except Kanon's are dumb to be honest. And then all of Kanon's relatability went down the drain after she's written to be this hypercompetent Mary Sue who does literally everything.

>Keke: "All my life I was being pressured by my parents to study
Wait what? When was this backstory explained?

>at least her episode was really good
Are you talking about episode 4 or episode 10?
Episode 4 wasn't good. She was a bitch and learned nothing in that episode.
I did have sympathy for her in episode 10 and the election one though. Keke was just horrible to her in those episodes, and episode 10 completely missed the point by not calling her previous behavior towards Sumire out,
Yeah, both of the Sumire episodes weren't good in my opinion.

>>3557807
>That's writers fault,
Well, of course?
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>>3557825
>Wait what? When was this backstory explained?
They introduced Keke's backstory in the episode 3. But that's it. I'll never understand why they thought EP 11 was a good idea. Keke didn't get her own arc.
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Speaking of Keke, did they just forget the plot point of her having to go home if they don't get results/lose?
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>>3557834
I hope not, but...
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>gets deleted
darn.....
well, honest apology from me
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>>3557883
Honestly, I feel bad for everyone who supported Kuukaa / KanonKeke. IIRC this is the first time the staff has pushed a ship so hard and completely forgets it and even attempts to remove any evidence of its existence in the same season.
The number of fanarts has decreased a lot. By the time the staff give their feedback, Kuukaa has probably already been overshadowed by the other 2 ships. Poor guys, they were just victims of incompetent staff
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What makes Kasumi so shippable? Even Lanzhu is wet for her.
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>>3557913
She is the ultimate bottom of Nijigasaki
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Finished watching episode 12 of Superstar.
Yep, Liella just got the second place and lost, the point was that Kanon needed to learn how it's feels to want to win. I can't believe how much they avoided any kind of conflict here, it was most easy to avoid the first minutes with all the deus ex machina and instead moving it to the end so that they can have more students with just winning a second place. The backlash of SIFAS really scared all the writers of the franchise
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>>3557899
I like Kuukaa but i was totally fine with the staff pushing KanoChi, but then episode 11 happened. They erased everything about the first arc, while making everything about KanoChii instead. I can't deny that i'm still bitter
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Subs out
https://nyaa.si/view/1445226
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>>3557718
Much like Sunshine S1, this season was written with the insurance that there will be more seasons to come, so they didn't feel like writing a finale at all.
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>>3557798
>The quality of the animation in the first episodes was quite high, especially the detailed and colorful backgrounds, after a few weeks they decreased considerably.
That's how anime production works. How new?
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>>3557834
>chink gets deported
Good. Hope Lanzhu is next.
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>>3558080
Listen to Queendom and seethe
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>>3558071
Sunshine S1's finale actually felt like a finale though, not a random ass episode

Like, I think that all of the season finales were bad in different ways (except for Niji's which was flawless), but this was on a whole nother level of bad.
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>>3557629
This. I always felt that Karin x Nana / Setsuna had some moments in the anime. It is not completely forgotten. I remember that while the Emma episode had a lot of Karin, the Karin episode had a lot of Setsuna. I wonder what they will do with Setsuna now ... Setsukarin is her only interesting and aesthetically attractive ship. By the way, I also feel that Kasumi was a third wheel, at least now she has Shizuku
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>>3558107
yeah, It was nice that they imported setsukarin in anime even just a little.
>I wonder what they'll do with Setsuna now
Fow now in the game she's still alone and just being friendly with the girls, I've noticed how Setsuna didn't try to help the niji members in a serious situation. In anime she'll be fine because she has VP.
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>>3558107
>I remember that while the Emma episode had a lot of Karin, the Karin episode had a lot of Setsuna.
I don't think those two episodes are comparable.
Karin was the costar in Emma's episode, while in Karin's episode they only had like two scenes together, with Setsuna also being with Yuu and Ayumu in the latter scene.
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>>3558146
>costar
Emma's episode is dedicated to fix Karin
it's great though, doubly so because Emma is basically flawless and has more depth beyond her "buono" and eating memes
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>>3558146
4 scenes/places, In karin's episode you could see karin with setsuna already in her intro, then at the middle where karin saw setsuna with ayumu and yuu, then setsuna is sitting on next to crying karin, and then in the last shot where setsuna gave her best high five to karin.
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>>3558180
Wasn't the entire group there in those last two scenes? I don't feel like they're worth mentioning.
I think that she was alone with Setsuna in only that first scene.

But my point is that the amount of interactions that Karin had with Setsuna in that episode was minuscule compared to the ones that Karin had with Emma in her episode.
Hell, I think that even Himeno talked to Karin longer than Setsuna did in the episode.
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>>3558180
They probably just want to show it where karin and setsuna are also close in anime. I'm not into cracks either but their friendship is cute in all media.
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>>3558146
Episode 9 >>3558206
starts with nana / setsuna, has more Setsuna in the middle and ends with more of that genki. When I saw it I was surprised because they did not interact much before. It may not be equivalent but they definitely focused their relationship more than any other.
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Tbh if the Nijigasaki anime didn't exist I would've written off Superstar and the entire franchise at episode 5 when they did that absolutely shameless clickbait shit.
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KasuKarin was never relevant to begin with.....
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>>3558305
dunno bout that sis
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>>3558319
works as a funny duo to highlight their contrasts
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>>3558319
>votes from viewers
Doesn't mean anything
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>>3558321
their appeal is the pipsqueak being intimidated by the raw sexual energy that is Karin

>>3558324
what do you mean?
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>>3558305
The way Karin teased Kasumi during the early days of PDP was cute, but I think Karin's betrayal in SIFAS S2 killed any hope of seeing that dynamic again. Man, I remember loving the idea of KarinAi until SIFAS S2 tainted it. And, considering DiverDiva's second album sold the lowest when compared to AZUNA's and Quartz's new albums, I wonder how many were burnt by Karin's and Ai's awful portrayal in All Stars. Even in the case of Lanzhu, which fans are now okay with it for the most part, her fan art is still in the low 100s and only spike (more than two fan art) whenever something big happens. Like, her finally joining the Niji club, or getting her anime design.
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>>3558342
No it didn't "taint" anything. Stop being overdramatic.

Why is this retarded fandom still mad about that tiny bit of inconsequential drama, but are okay with actual horrible, absolutely nonsensical writing that is Superstar and that yuri-hating hack director?

Oh yeah this is the same fandom who threw a shitfit about ChikaRiko and good storytelling, and then rejoiced when it got unnaturally replaced by their pet ships.

God I fucking hate this fandom.
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>>3558353
You can't tell someone to stop being overdramatic while being overdramatic. I'm not mad about SIFAS S2. It's over. Done. But it did change my opinion about certain characters for the worst. If you still love them like day one, that's fine. However, I'd be lying if I said my enthusiasm for Karin and Ai didn't drop because of All Stars.
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>>3558353
>this is the same fandom who threw a shitfit about ChikaRiko and good storytelling, and then rejoiced when it got unnaturally replaced by their pet ships.
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>>3558359
I'm not being overdramatic. Everyone else is being underdramatic about important things while being overdramatic about unimportant things.

>I'm not mad about SIFAS S2. It's over. Done.
Great! Use that complaining energy to complain about the actual horrible writing and non-existent yuri of Superstar instead.
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>>3558365
>I'm not being overdramatic. Everyone else is being underdramatic about important things while being overdramatic about unimportant things.

None of this is important. We're talking about gay Chinese cartoons.
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>>3558449
wonder why Nosa draws YuSetsu instead of SetsuVP
oh, that reminds me, he didn't draw Kanata yet
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>>3558452
Maybe because NTRing a potential yandere is hot, dangerous but hot.
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>>3558353
>Why is this retarded fandom still mad about that tiny bit of inconsequential drama
Considering the fact that Anigasaki wasn't even supposed to be a thing, it's a pretty fucking big deal that AS S2 assassinated Karin and Ai's characters as well as giving Lanzhu the wrost character introduction possible. Superstar's writing is bland and uninspired (I would compare it to some a show aimed towards even younger audiences like PreCure or Aikatsu) but it wasn't straight up offensively bad like AS S2 was. You might be biased here since you're looking at this some the lens of a yuri-lover. But if we're talking about writing, AS S2 was more of a failure tha Superstar that just played it safe because it made the antagonist irredeemable without retconning and had the characters act inconsistently to their previous characterizations.
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Incest with ghost mommy.
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>>3558459
But Superstar's writing was offensively bad. It's not even in the same category as "bad" as SIFAS S2.
Did you not notice the characters acting inconsistently to their previous characterizations virtually every fucking episode?
Say all you want about the writing decisions, but at least SIFAS S2 didn't seem like a schizo wrote it.
The only consistent part of Superstar is its inconsistency (and lack of yuri).

>You might be biased here since you're looking at this some the lens of a yuri-lover.
Yea I am. I actually like the drama because it serves a purpose to yuri: generate drama between the "canon" couples of EmmaKarin, RinaAi, and ShizuKasu.

>made the antagonist irredeemable without retconning
Wait isn't that a good thing? Since when is not retconning not a good thing?
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What else did you expect from the dullest franchise in the history of idols? Seriously, each installment following the current Honoka clone and her pals from the Idol Club as they save assorted schools has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the bright imagery, the series' only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of pop music, all to make idols un-idolic, to make dance seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Lantis vetoed the idea of KyoAni animating the series; they made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for their records. The Love Live series might be anti-male (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Idolmaster series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least nijigasaki was good though
"No!" The writing is dreadful; the anime was terrible. As I watched, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched her legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Sunrise's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that they have no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Love Live by the same Bushiroad. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are watching Love Live at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to watch Bang Dream." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you watch "Love Live" you are, in fact, trained to watch Bang Dream.
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>>3558705
>"Is Setsuna-chan more important to you?" Ayumu asked calmly.
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>>3558705
Whatever you say Im@sfag.
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>>3558744
Keke's hair looks like my mom's.
She's cute (my mom I mean).
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Liella ships pixiv current ranking:
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>>3558705
>Perhaps the die was cast when Lantis vetoed the idea of KyoAni animating the series
>they made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art
this is a stupid idea and any decent person knows it, KyoAni knows how to plagiarize reality but can't make it really interesting, the jobs they've made ridiculously boring in that sense (Kobayashi works better because it's a series that has "life" in the animation) if we talk about that Sunrise has done a good job in the visual part and that has been the really consistent part of the franchise and nothing more.

>"No!" The writing is dreadful; the anime was terrible. As I watched, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched her legs."
Well now what you say doesn't make any sense

the franchise has problems like anything, the beginnings of Bang Dream were not particularly good and we had the staff begging people to buy, Im@s is not perfect (CG anime has problems and gekijou is basolute rubbish) and Aikatsu has made too many stupid decisions for their own good.

LL is a victim of playing it too safe in certain respects, pleasing the wrong fans instead of maintaining consistency, not using secondary material to complement the main one, and being generally conformist in general.
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>>3558915
Anon. It's a copypasta, originally about the Harry Potter movies.
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>>3558916
I noticed with the silly part of the "stretched her legs." but that has no application with this franchise, the comparison makes no sense and if Niji is good anime in its own right.
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>>3558850
Ren got screwed over. Her two-part episode is the lowest rated in the series (for good reason). I don't think RenMaid will be enough to make up for it.
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>>3558918
The anon who posted it probably just did it as a joke, to make fun of how we're taking the writing of this franchise too seriously in this thread.
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>>3558928
Her episodes weren't even that bad to be honest.
They were just boring like most of the season.

The dumb island episode and the "let's gaslight Kanon for no good reason" episode were the worst.
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>>3558896
Kek, I can already lmagine all of the edgy YuuPomuShio fanfictions that will be made after Niji S2
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