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Updates and Discussion for English and Japanese games, visual novels, RPGs, etc.

Last thread: >>3569438

New here? Need a starting point?
Try the /u/ recommendation survey results:
https://pastebin.com/WRpxij2k

Lists of Yuri Games:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4oc1uvr5vl96m/Yuri (Generally non-VN games)
http://store.steampowered.com/curator/6864182-Hella-Yuri/ (Anything available on Steam with lesbians in it)
https://vndb.org/g1986?fil=tagspoil-0.tag_inc-1986 (VNs tagged Yuri Only)

Yuri Game CGs:
http://pastebin.com/PXKFuZGh

Related threads:

Life is Strange: >>3539722
Genshin/Honkai Impact: >>3566734
Girls' Frontline: >>3577672
Granblue Fantasy: >>3376334
Azur Lane: >>3477117
Assault Lily: >>3526402
Neptunia: >>3318873
Arknights: >>3547657
LIly LYric cyCLE: >>2405678
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Recent News:

Rune Factory 5 got the gay marriage update in Japan
Kirakira Monstars launches on Steam in jp/chinese soon, first 10 chapters available free on appstores, English may happen eventually
Sierra Ops is about to add a female MC option
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Occasional /u/ in Corpse Party…
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>>3581978
…but not enough to make it worthwhile.
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English release of maglam lord was announced. No release date set yet
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>>3582294
Sweet
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>>3582294
>was announced
Yeah, last month.
>No release date
What is this then? https://www.gematsu.com/2021/10/maglam-lord-coming-west-on-february-4-2022
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>>3582327
Wonder if I can emulate it on my potato. Probably not.
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>>3582327
How many love interests for FeMC?
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>>3582327
>no pc version even in 2022
just why? why do they keep ignoring pc players?
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>>3582540
B-but anon! People on PC can pirate video games! If we put a video game on PC, nobody will buy it!
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>>3582327
The limited edition would be nice to get if they had a store that didn't make me pay for import shipping.

>>3582540
It's a jp console game anon, why would they spend extra on porting the game to PC now? This isn't going to be a huge seller so we're just lucky they are translating it at all.
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>>3582540
no one in japan plays on pc
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Mangagamer announced their survey results, it looks like we're sort of falling by the wayside now, not having anything big to rally behind. Instead the otome and yaoi fans snuck in

https://blog.mangagamer.org/2021/11/20/animenyc-announcements-2021-licensing-survey-results/
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>>3582637
I wouldn't mind a yuri otome
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>>3582646
Do you mean in terms of artstyle, or it being an otome that also has female love interests? Not sure I get it.
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>>3582625
Lots of people in Japan play on PC, it’s just that they only play VNs and eroge on it.
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>>3582658
Not that anon, but an otome where all the LIs are different flavors of tomboy.
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>>3582658
Second one
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>>3582727
There's plenty of those out there but mostly English-written. Japanese-written otomes with female love interests almost always wuss out and make it definitely just friends, or just friends with the barest amount of subtext. I don't think you're going to find any good japanese otome games with yuri options that people would rally behind in order to get a translation.
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What are some switch game recommendations?
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>>3582808
yuri only, available on switch: https://vndb.org/g1986?m=0&f=4oswi&s=30w
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>>3582808
For actual games there's Fire Emblem Three Houses and the Mary Skelter series (2 in particular).
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>>3582706
You mean Apex.
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>>3582808
Fairune Collection
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>>3582852
Not bad for the price
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>>3582808
Fire emblem 4 houses
Mary Skelter
Blue reflection 2
Harvest moon seasons
Harvest moon olive town
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>>3582870
>Harvest moon seasons
>Harvest moon olive town
Might as well add Rune Factory 5, through the sheer power of localization interference.
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>>3582731
The Fxxx Me Royally!! otome had a yuri route with your maid, but IIRC you have to fuck the guys first in the common route beforehand.
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Thanks to the anon that told me about the Mary Skelter 2 reprint on Amazon.
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>>3582852
So I tried playing the first game but I didn't get it and gave up on it. Either I was misunderstanding the game or it really did want me to repeatedly kill myself by running into shit. Though I did play it over a year ago so maybe I'm misremembering what I was doing.
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>>3582883
I believe I heard it was more of a short side route as well though at least they do really get together
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>>3582808
Skyrim.
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>>3582731
Best chance would probably be if Gekka Ryouran Romance got a Switch port since a lot of games from that company have been getting TLs.
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>>3582927
Feels good, doesn't it?
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>>3582939
Combat is strictly based on level so you just have to be careful about not attacking enemies that are too strong.
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>>3582540
To protect you. They know the game isn't worth any money.
Well, unless you are one of those weird people that also enjoyed stuff like Crystar, and fully played through it.
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Anyone know if there are /u/-relevant mods for Europa Universalis 3? Been tempted to try to figure that one out again lately, and maybe lesbians will help me stay focused.
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>>3581979
The Yuribaiting is strong with this franchise.
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>>3582883
if only she didn’t have to touch men first
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>>3583049
you really think /u/ is going to get excited about an otome game with five male LIs and one female, when they refuse to back kamitsure because of the vaguest hint of het?
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>>3583526
I mean that's what that one anon was asking for but yes I'm sure most of /u/ wouldn't care.
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>>3583521
First you touch filth, then you clean yourself deeply with your lovely maid.
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Any yuri romhacks? I've only just gotten into this. Stuff like Fire Emblem Sacred Stones Restoration Queen and this http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6274/ for rune factory 3 where micah is turned into a girl
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>>3583945
This one, maybe?
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4163/
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>>3583046
Gonna make a female character in skyrim and make her have a harem of wives, I can't believe I've never thought of that before
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>>3583968
There is also a mod that makes Serana romancible, enhances some of the dialogue and some other stuff. I have not played it yet myself though, so I can't comment on its quality but people seem to like it.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32161
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>>3583970
I've played this one before, it's great and even impressive how it adds so much stuff to Serana.
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>>3583945
I only know the gay 3DS Fire Emblem and HarvestMoon/Story fo Seasons romhacks you can find on gbatemp.

But you just gave me 2 new games to play right away, those you posted sound so great, thank you.
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I'm a newfag and the only "yuri" game i've ever played is life is strange, what are the best translated yuri VN's?
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>>3584018
>Newfag
>Can't or didn't read the OP
Try again newfag
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>>3584018
Not translated (as it is OEVN), but the best yuri VN I've played was A Summer's End. And normally I hate VNs. Kindred Spirits was alright for a minute, but I lost my patience with the meandering internal monologue.
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>>3584023
I'd rather talk to you ;)
>>3584025
I've read umineko which is like a million words, I'm fine with long monologues as long as it translated
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>>3584025
After reading some LNs and VNs, I find the lack of introspection in manga "simplified", kinda had to adapt again.
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>>3584018
Kindred Spirits on the Roof.
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>>3584038
Alright, I'm going play this one, thanks
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>>3584018
Aoishiro (it's fan translation, but still one of the best VNs).
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>>3584058
Gonna check this out too, thank you.
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>>3584074
I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for a first VN, but check out SeaBed too once you feel like reading something more melancholic.
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>>3584079
I'm fine with melancholy as long as it has a happy ending
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>>3583966
...dammit, fine, I’ll play fucking SMB again.
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>>3584081
That’s, uh. Hrm.
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>>3584114
Not reading, but thanks anyway.
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>>3584115
I wasn’t the one who suggested it, and I actually still have it in my back log. I just know that people keep saying it doesn’t have a bad ending, but also that it makes them curl up into a ball and weep for months afterwards, so I get the feeling that a traditional happy ending might not be on the table.
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>>3584115
>>3584119
The additional scenes in the Switch version make the ending more unambiguously positive, but it's a VN with a bittersweet atmosphere all throughout and never overtly fluffy. It's 100% worth reading, it's not gratuitously sad or depressing. For me at least, it's the kind of story that leaves me a little somber but emotionally fulfilled afterwards.
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What was that rpg maker game that had these cute characters but was actually some dark stuff?
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>>3584281
You're gonna have to be more specific. There's like a million of them.
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>>3584281
All of them.
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>>3584281
Embric of wulfhammer is probably what you're thinking of
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What was that JRPG that had a one heroic character?
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>>3584018
>>3584025
>>3584038
>>3584058
>>3584079

wow, what a time to be alive. It is only 1 year but Flowers have completely disappeared from /u/. Time is so cruel
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>>3584451
Yeah, suck it nerd.
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>>3584451
I'd rather recommend a standalone work to a newcomer than a series that's not even fully translated yet.
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>>3584281
Towelket?
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I'm thinking in buy Mary Skelter: Nightmares, but at least for some images I've seen it doesn't look like a "Yuri" game. This game is really worth even with a male mc?
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>>3584281
Mogeko Castle
:^)
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>>3584486
There was a heroic character in that? Must have missed her in my playthrough.
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>>3584562
Why do you want to buy nightmares (ms1) when ms2 contains the better version? Just buy ms2 and play that. It's 2 -> novel -> 1 (included in 2) -> novel - > AU VN -> finale -> novel -> finale VN epilogue
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>>3584562
Don't buy the first game. It's included with 2 and is meant to be played after it.
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>>3584562
As you were told, you can skip 1 since you'll get around to it later anyway. 2 is the game with a yuri couple as the MCs and the one you're supposed to start with. They are present in the updated rerelease of 1 but not the original, and they're also in Finale.
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>>3584584
>>3584599
>>3584606

Thanks. I'm was thinking about buying the steam version, but it looks like it's better to buy MS2 for switch instead.
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>>3584617
Yeah, unfortunately they're not on PC past the first game due to publishing rights shenanigans.
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Are all those Sakura games even worth playing, even when they're discounted to the price of a bottle of soda? I'm assuming they're rather trashy, but I won't mind that too much if they're super gay.
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>>3584755
They are pretty basic but if you just want to get off they can be all right. If you want an actual game you can get just Sakura Dungeon which has the most effort by far.
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>>3584760
So if I don't want to get off but just want a good story they're a no no?
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>>3583505
anonne, there aren'y any characters in that game, it's just a list of names in a text file
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>>3584755
>>3584771
The stories are pretty generic, and typically just have basic lewd humor.

The most obnoxious part about Winged Cloud is their insistence on having identically shaped girls in every single game. They have over 50 games, and every girl has:
>big (but not comically oversized) boobs
>juicy thighs
>soft, smooth skin
>a height between 5'2 and 5'5
There are no lolis, no chiseled amazons, and no tall and slender model-types. I don't dislike the art, but it's hard to care about low-brow porn games when every girl looks like a copy-paste with different hairstyles and skin colors.
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>>3584815
>basic lewd humor
>no tall and slender
>every girl same D-cup
ok good to know I'm not interested
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I am getting excited for Endwalker with the latest tweet from YoshiP.
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Steam Sale is up, what's the best /u/ discount?
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>>3584828
The Yumeutsutsu games are half off, which is notable because they're normally like 70 bucks.
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>>3584779
But you could presumably mod in lesbocracy, female unit sprites, or the yurism faith.
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>>3584617
Just a heads up that MS2 is on sale right now in the eshop for $20. But if you prefer physical then that's still in stock on Amazon, at regular price.
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>>3584835
What kind of game is it, a first person dungeon crawler?
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>>3584843
>first person dungeon crawler
Yup.
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>>3584828
I don't see an significantly better discounts compared to previous sales. Unless you have your eye on something in particular I'd just wait to see if it is any better for the sale starting a month from now.

>>3584829
They've been cheaper before, I got the main game for $25.99 on steam and re:after for $21.31 on the humble store. Even though I own them already it is frustrating how stingy they are being with the discounts when it is already overpriced. Speaking of yumeutsutsu, does anyone know if Re:Idol is getting translated?
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https://twitter.com/KLemiscus/status/1429223471670726657
Not sure how conclusive this is but here's some evidence that razzart is still alive despite not posting any updates anywhere for over a year. Someone did a doodle with her a couple months ago.
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>>3584843
Yes, with a horror theme and some gameplay peculiarities like a dungeon's invincible boss roaming around and chasing you in real time if it finds you, forcing you to escape until you find and destroy the dungeon's core which makes the boss vulnerable.

Combat revolves around managing the party members' mental stability while they fight since they can go into either a controllable powered-up state or an uncontrollable one where they'll attack anyone depending on their condition upon filling up a bar.

The structure of the story and party is more akin to a regular jrpg than a traditional dungeon crawler since the party members are all established characters who join based on the story, each with different jobs to unlock and choose from. Speaking of story, it's told in a VN format and it's extremely in-depth, including some prequel novels available on the official websites. There are also individual events that develop each party member on top of the main story, making up to over 10 hours of VN scenes in each game.

Most importantly, the yuri is S+ tier. The main couple is the most endearing and balanced I've seen in a game and since they've been together for years, it skips all the usual pre-dating steps and focuses on their established relationship and its continued development. It mixes together moments of lighthearted flirting and teasing, sweet heart-to-hearts, understated emotional support, conflict that's worked through by communication, and trauma and tragedy that result from the desperate situation they're in. It's very dark, but one of the themes of the series is that hope always lies beyond. I think it's well worth experiencing unless you can't tolerate dungeon crawlers, it's not the absolute best in the genre but I had a lot of fun with the gameplay too.
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>>3584835
>$20

I ended up buying the digital version, I really hope that male MC doesn't become annoying and an obstacle for the yuri couple
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>>3584873
The male MC is the biggest ally to ever exist.
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>>3584873
No character male or female is an obstacle to their relationship at any point
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https://www.gematsu.com/2021/11/heaven-burns-red-delayed-to-february-2022-in-japan
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>>3584873
Princes can't have boobs.
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>>3585124
Grandfather clause, she was still flat when she became one.
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>>3585124
Oh yeah?
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>>3585123
I wonder what the cause for the delay is.
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The female protagonist option for Sierra Ops is out now, if you enjoy your VNs with space combat
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>>3585153
>the "only male on the island" who makes girls wet at the mere mention of him
>turns out to be a girl with giant tits that couldn't have possibly fit under the breast plate
wtf bros, I got hetbaited.
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>>3585153
>>3585230
Woah alright who is this
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>>3585240
I forgot the name, but it's the commander from Valkyrie Drive Mermaid. There's also a game called Valkyrie Drive Bhikkhuni though it has a different cast. It's a series about girls fighting by turning other girls into weapons by giving them orgasms.
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>>3585242
Her name is Governor.
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>>3584820
Which one is gonna die then?
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>>3585124
Not with that attitude.
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I started playing Disaster Report 4, and very nearly the first choice I get lets my female character choose to help the hot teacher find her female students specifically because she’s my type or because I’m eager to check out some high school girls.
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>>3585250
Not necessarily die. They are the Oracles of Light/Dark, so they might end up becoming Crystals to replace Hydealyn and Zodiark.
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>>3585250
YoshiP basically said the people who keeps miraculously avoiding death has a pretty high chance of dying. I'm sure the twins will survive and Ryne/Gaia will survive. However there is a final cut scene of what happens to them after the final battle based on what questline you've completed.

It is most likely that the WOL also dies, but get reborn in another age/place.
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>>3585391
>what questline you've completed
istg if Ali dies because I can't be arsed to kick Bahamut's teeth in I'm going to be mad
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>>3585183
Releasing new gacha game in december is just suicide.
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Any /u/ mods for the original Darkest Dungeon?
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>>3585439
There's probably some /u/ adjacent ones but nothing overt from what I recall. adjacent being like relationship mods that don't care about specifics so an all lady party'll have lesbians
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>>3585363
I'm partial to the OL myself.

Seriously, spoiler ahead.

Careful how attached you get to the teacher.
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Particle is making a new Yuri game. All we know is this teaser.
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>>3585918
What kind of trajectory do lesbians have?
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>>3586223
Ballistic.
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We talk a lot about the 7th and 8th gen home console Atelier games, but I never hear anything from the PS2 era and back or the DS ones. Are those completely /u/-irrelevant?
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>>3586232
I've only ever played Iris 1, 2, and 3, and there's nothing /u/ there. I don't even remember them being goggleable.
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>>3582646
I do recall a otome where the heroine can let herself be romanced by the villainess. Actual route too
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>>3586232
I have Atelier Annie for the DS but I never finished it and it's been so long that I don't really remember anything. There's a girl who admires the protagonist, but much more hinting at a possible het pairing for her in the true end I think.
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Yumeutsutsu seems to be reported as 30-40 hours long for all routes combined. How long would just one route be? I'm thinking of just playing the one route that everyone says is the best first since I don't have much free time.
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>>3586256
I’d be interested in learning more if you have the name.
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>>3586286
I'm at about 40 hours now and I've finished the main route and I feel like I'm almost done with Saki's route. I've heard Kokoro's route is pretty long because it diverges very early in the story. It feels like a long game, especially compared to NLA.
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>>3586290
Damn, in that case I really don't have enough time to finish it then. Maybe I'll look for a shorter yuri vn to play now and save this for next month.
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>>3586289
Is it the phone one? Mystic Messenger has your choice of short-haired secretary or crazy bitch. From what I know, the secretary has a full route and the psycho has an indirect one from a bad end or something.
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>>3586437
The secretary route ends on subtext, only later stuff gave it romantic development.
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>>3585207
>space opera
>VN with gameplay elements
shit this sounds perfect... but is it any good ?
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>>3586286
>I feel like I'm almost done with Saki's route
No, you aren't. It's the longest of all routes.
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>>3586854
It should've been even longer and they should've cut the other three to make room for it.
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>>3585431
>Releasing new gacha game in december is just suicide.

It's because other gacha games do Christmas specials and banners around that time, right?
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KimiHane/Wanting Wings any good? I noticed it in the MangaGamer sale but don't remember any discussion that may have taken place here before.
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>>3586887
It's because the average girl is too busy visiting shrines with her childhood friend and confessing to her at midnight on new year's day so that they can spend an entire year as a couple to play video games.
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>>3586896
While her other friend Yaya just happens to be passing by and watches the confession from behind the corner, which leads her to lock herself in her room for the rest of the holidays and whale on her favorite gacha girls.
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>>3585245
Governor AKIRA, that is. Oh, the anime has a scene where one of the protagonist girls takes a single look at Girl-Akira and she literally cums on sight. It's great.

If you're a fan of Senran Kagura or Dynasty Warriors, Valkyrie Drive Bhikkhuni is a good time. If nothing else, it doesn't have any of the usual pussyfooting that you normally get from a Senran Kagura game (but it does have the other typical trappings of a Marvelous game, like the fucking panty shop).
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>>3586854
Interesting. I just made the final choice in her route the last time I played so I assumed I was close to the end. Sounds like it's one of those routes that goes on for another few hours after the last choice. But I'm seriously thinking of buying the new Blue Reflection game tomorrow and if that runs on my system I'll probably just play that until I beat it and put YuriMaster on hold if I'm nowhere near the end of Saki's route.
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>>3586995
Oh, I didn't know how far you were. There should be around 2 hours at max left for Saki's route.
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>Saki's route
>writing quality far beyond the usual standards Kogado's yurige including the rest of Yumeutsutsu itself
>except the bad ending where their trademark batshit fetish left turn comes barging in
But yes, I like Saki so much I will have sex with her even if she mentally regressed to a toddler. I swear it's still consensual, emphasis on "sensual".
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>>3587089
Bad end is canon omake, they're just roleplaying.
source: trust me
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Any of you Nee-sans played Dark Deity?
I'm seeing conflicting information on it's "romance"content; Main dev (or spokesperson?) says something akin to "No romance" but the Yuri Steam Curator says "Two female characters can enter a relationship"?
Is this another "goggles on overdrive" thing, or is the developer the one who's afraid to say that they have romance in their game?
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>>3587334
Most supports are platonic. There's one gay couple (Bianca/Samara). Some slight subtext in other support lines.
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>>3587436
Also, the game is quite shit so you may drop it before anything gay happens.
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>>3587436
>>3587437
Thanks for the confirmation. Can't say I'm not intrigued. I've played shittier games for lesser yuri content before.
Will probably start it just get a taste for myself
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>>3587437
aren't the steam reviews quite positive?
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>>3587486
steam users have pleb tastes
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>>3587491
unlike you right
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>tfw
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>>3587486
Nearly every mediocre game has positive reviews on steam.
> Shitty story that tries to juggle attention between 30 characters and fails miserably
>Blatanty unfinished plot points
> Awful maps, even worse than FE Gaiden ones
>Poorly explained mechanics
>Inflated stats
>branching promotions are quite neat but also badly balanced
You can still play and enjoy it. It's essentially just a buggy Fire Emblem romhack.
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>>3587493
whats this
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>>3587493
There should be more games with bizarre yuri stories like this out there.

>>3587571
Hinedere beat. It's a platformer with a yuri storyline as a backdrop. It's a short game but it is very cheap when on sale.
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Is there any EUropoor who bought the Mary Skelter finale Limited Edition? It's been 2 weeks since I placed my order by DPD courier and the order status is still "unfulfilled".
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>>3587669
Does it say it's unfulfilled in the invoice on IFI's website? If so, it's them who haven't sent it yet, you should contact them. Otherwise it's normal for orders coming from the UK to be stuck in customs for upwards to a month because fuck you.
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>>3587669
Stuck in lockdown.
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>>3587719
>Does it say it's unfulfilled in the invoice on IFI's website?
Yeah, that's what it says. I guess I'll have to contact them then, thank you.
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>>3587493
>>3587612
Sounds delicious, picked up.
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I'm playing nurse love addiction for the first time. I didn't know what to expect other than faint recollections hearing it had some weird fetishes but I'm dying laughing when the tense scene at the hospital gets diffused by asuka deciding that she has to pee herself to help out a crowd of trained nurses. "Our little puddles connect". I had to take a break from playing because I can't stop laughing at how ridiculous that entire exchange was.
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>>3587823
One of the writers or maybe more has a pee fetish. Please understand.
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>>3587823
>>3587832
See
>>3587732
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>>3587823
Honestly I'm much more in favor of the sheer ridiculousness of that than the "now practice using a diaper" scene in the first one.
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>>3587893
But that one makes sense as punishment to make the nurses understand what the patients go through, the former is just insanity not to mention a potential health hazard in a hospital, and by an aspiring nurse.
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>>3587903
This is just a personal taste thing for what I want in my VNs. I agree that the punishment is more logical, but the ridiculous version was more fun to read.
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Is anyone familiar with how Limited Run Games works? I wanted to get the Switch version of Fatal Twelve on an eShop sale, but checking its publisher now, they're greedy assholes who don't do sales period judging by how even Clannad has never gone on sale once in two years. Therefore I might as well get the standard physical release for the same price, but preorder on LRG closed a week ago. Can I expect some copies to be available again around the time it starts shipping?
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>>3587832
There's also a scene in YuriMaster when Saki is sleeping under her desk and has to pee and nearly bursts when the dog starts licking her. She has an entire monologue about how she would go from being known as the kuso scenario writer who lives in the office and bathes in the sink to being known as the kuso scenario writer who lives in the office, bathes in the sink, and pees on the floor.
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>>3587911
Isn't the whole deal with LRG that they're well, limited runs and outside of the first batch or two they don't make any more? I've never bought from them but in all the announcements they seem to use time sensitive language.
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>>3587919
Yes, but from my experience on other similar services, some preorders end up not being fulfilled and those copies become available again around the time of release. I wanted to know if someone witnessed that on LRG.
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Saw this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/923570/Eternal_Radiance/

Any hints of this having yuri? It has an all female cast.
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Magic 8 ball says no.
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>>3588168
for >>3588166
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>>3588168
>>3588169
Oh well, that sucks.
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The DJMax Respect V system themes keep getting gayer.
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>>3588456
You should've seen the girl's Frontline Collab
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any suggestions for switch games?
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>>3587334
Reporting in on Dark Deity for those who care.
Reply anon wasn't joking when they said this game was shit. I only lasted till chapter 9 before I noped out of the game and refunded it (thankfully only 6 hours in).
I'm someone who's into quirky combat systems and can somewhat excuse weak stories for yuri, but this game fucking fails on both accounts.
Combat-wise; It's trying to copy FE's rock<paper<scissors system, but it tries to modify it until the point that nothing makes sense. Imagine the dev saying "what if there's rock with spiky bits that shreds paper?!" or " what if there's scissors with laser blades that can cut rock?!". "Also all units within the same category looks the same so fuck trying to figure out who works best on what!!". Stupid and asinine.
Story-wise; most have been said on the Steam forum, so I'm just reiterating but holy shit the story really reaaallly suuuucks. Fuck getting to the yuri.

Also one other stupid thing is the sprites. The character designs are pretty good (e.g. pictured) but on the map everyone just looks like a bunch of gorillas, no wonder its so hard to find screenshots of the class choices in-game. That's how ugly they look while you attack with them.

Guess it's better to just fire up one of those gay FE mods even though they're unfinished.
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>>3588622
>It's trying to copy FE's rock<paper<scissors system, but it tries to modify it until the point that nothing makes sense. Imagine the dev saying "what if there's rock with spiky bits that shreds paper?!" or " what if there's scissors with laser blades that can cut rock?!".
FE already does that with the -reaver weapons though.
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>>3588618
FE3H. Mary Skelter. Probably some more I'm forgetting.
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>>3588622
I thought you could only get refunds if you have less than two hours of playtime? Or does steam make exceptions if the game is really shitty?
>in the case of games, if the title has been played for less than two hours.
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>>3588631
It's sub two hours for an unconditional, no questions asked refund. You can still ask for one after that if you make your case convincingly.
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>>3588628
It's not like that. There's the weapon types and armor types. Certain armors will be weak to certain types of damage and strong against others. So there can be situations where both units have a weapon type advantage in the combat round. It just translates to damage instead of overall combat prowess.

I myself got the game awhile back and never got around to finishing it. I was gonna check back on it once it got patched up since initial release was pretty buggy at times. But yeah one of the main sticking points is all the battle sprites are trying to copy the GBA aesthetic, but they didn't go the extra mile and really differentiate the male and female sprites. It works well on GBA because the sprites are like 20 pixels tall. With big HD sprites they need a lot more work. A lot of classes end up looking like slabs of meat with a girl's head.
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>>3588641
>slabs of meat with a girl's head
Hot.
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>>3588618
Seconding Mary Skelter 2 + Finale and Fire Emblem three houses as probably the best console exclusive choices if you just want to play a game for the /u/. SeaBed and Fatal Twelve are both available with the console exclusive cg versions as well. Bayonetta 1 and 2, Astral Chain, Xenoblade 2.
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>>3588679
>Astral Chain, Xenoblade 2
Not like these are bad games either way, but you'd need the tightest soldered-on goggles to see any scraps of yuri in them. I guess Xenoblade 2 has that Blade who wants to build a lesbian harem, but she's treated like a case of eternal cringe and never taken seriously. Anything else is stuff I'd be hard-pressed to even mention, let alone recommend a game over.
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>>3588631
If you don't abuse the privilege and you ask nicely they'll generally do the occasional refund to keep customers happy.

On the other hand if you try refunding every game you buy they may eventually restrict your account even if they were all withint 2 hours.
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>>3588618
did you try reading the thread or at least ctrl-fing it for this literal question being already asked here >>3582808 ??
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>>3582870
>>3582927
>mary skelter
Wait a sec now Im confused. which one do I get for max yuri The Complete final edition or 2?
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>>3588780
Mary Skelter 2 contains two games, MS2 and MS:Nightmares (which is the first game). MS Finale is the third and final game.
You play MS2 first, then Nightmares, then Finale. The yuri couple are the main characters of MS2 but if you want to get their full story it's necessary to play the other two games.
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>>3588695
Maybe in the places where there's no law. The 2 hour thingy exists generally because of Europe though, so I doubt you'd ever have that happen if you live there.
It's a thing Steam does as customer service in a lot of places, but also because of laws in another few. You simply have the right for a refund in Europe.
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>>3588847
They can restrict your account to stop you buying any more games.
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>>3588917
But they can't restrict me of being a dumb idiot.
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I finished nurse love addiction's Nao route and I don't know what to do next. I thought I was on a bad end route multiple times, what an odd story that turned out to be. My interest started to fade out in the last part of the game after the school festival since the game spends hours dragging the mystery out. I also was disappointed that there is next to no sexual/romantic tension in the route. I wanted to do the Nao route because it seemed like the best option and I didn't want Asuka to homewreck Sakuya and Itsuki's relationship, but the twist made that impossible. I'm still not all that interested in doing a sakuya or itsuki route because it is just a different way to end a love triangle and I feel like none of these endings can be particularly satisfying since it will necessitate breakups and leaving Nao alone. Is the teacher route at least a good choice?
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>>3589291
The teacher route largely skips all the out of nowhere science fiction stuff from Nao's. I was in the same spot too, thinking oh Nao is good clean fun and the chemistry with Asuka is all there I'll go after her oh god what
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>>3589291
Maybe you're better off not knowing the full extent of the insanity behind Sakuya's character which you discover in her route. However, it would be a shame not to see the bad ending of Itsuki's route, it's legendary.

>Is the teacher route at least a good choice?
I don't find it that great, but it's at least designed as the one "normal" route that doesn't turn into X-Men with nurses.
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>>3589296
>>3589298
Thanks anons, I'll try the teacher next in that case. If that gives me enough of a palate cleanse maybe I'll do the other two routes after that.
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>>3589304
In case you haven't played Nurse Love Syndrome yet, that one keeps it together a lot better in all routes and the supernatural element is much more understated and unobtrusive.
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new short yuri game:
https://twoandahalfstudios.itch.io/amelie

(not mine, i'm pondering whether I'll pay that for only 20K)
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>>3589291
The Sakuya and Itsuki routes are not quite what you're expecting, but they are definitely full of weird and crazy things happening. Which I love but may not be your taste.
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>>3584124
A kind anon pointed me here from /v/ comfy Switch thread. Just finished it. It was pretty great but I'm not sure how to interpret everything that happened, but I have a guess
>>3584115
>>3584119
Otherwise, this is the perfect kind of drama for me, melancholic without being a complete bummer. Melancholic is definitively the word to describe it, but at the same time the vast majority of it is vacation memories and the character's chill everyday life. In a way in meander greatly, but goddamn is it chill. Managed to mesmerize it immediately after starting it
I highly recommend it. Have never quite read anything like it
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>>3589345
Note that some things don't have official answers, though the game's translator gave "educated guesses" on a few points when asked such as the sanatorium being made in the shape of the inn due to Sachiko reading its pamphlet while deciding to take her vacation there. Narasaki is probably the most complex aspect of the story and it's not entirely clear whether her human form actually existed in the real world or if it was Sachiko hallucinating, but the way I see it, it did exist since it makes it easier to explain all of Narasaki's solo interactions with characters like Lily and Kozue. Stuff like Kozue thinking she had spoken with Sachiko all along instead and Nanae not knowing who Narasaki was when Sachiko mentions her towards the end, I see as them quickly forgetting about her since she's not meant to interact with normal people, while someone more attuned with spiritual entities like Lily is able to perceive her existence more strongly, and to make Sachiko herself forget her (thus erasing herself from Sachiko's mind where she is at the end) she has to burn her files. The Narasaki Clinic must've been in Sachiko's mind as well since Narasaki was able to take Takako's diary from it and send it to Takako, plus it had a few rooms in common with the sanatorium.

You can kinda get lost thinking deeply about it, but that it also manages to be enjoyable on a more surface level as you mention is nice.
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Is AC Valhalla less fucked up than Odyssey was in terms of yuri?
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>>3589361
Anon, lesbians don't exist in AAA western games.
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>>3589360
Thanks. So it truly is one of those with no real answer? Hmm truly interesting
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>>3589361
Yeah.
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>>3589310
I really like the art, will check it out
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>>3589361
Pirate it. Don't give Ubishit your money. Or any money, for that matter.
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Any dark/fucked up yuri games out there? Looking for things in a dark setting, kind of like Togainu no Chi.

Oddly enough the closest thing that came to scratching that itch was Yumeutsutsu's opening, with Kokoro being incredibly cold to the MC. That led my imagination to believe that something truly fucked up happened in the past. Needless to say I was heavily disappointed.

I played through all the Nurse Love games, Yumeutsutsu, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Fatal Twelve, Dead Wishes, a few of the SonoHanas, Divinity 2, and both the Pathfinder games.
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>>3589643
What did you want to happen, Ai raped Kokoro in a fit of frustration when their moms were divorcing to show her who truly loves her and now Kokoro doesn't even want to share a family name with her rapist?
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>>3589659
Less rape and more psychological, but honestly I would have been okay with anything other than Kokoro believing Ai was replaced by a character in a video game.
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>>3588830
Don't you have to play MS2 first to get the good ending for Otsuu and Little Mermaid in Nightmares or something?
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>>3589687
The postgame in Nightmares is locked until you complete MS2's true ending. So you should play MS2 first.
Technically you could play Nightmares, then MS2, then go back to Nightmares for the postgame. But no one really does this, especially not people who are interested in the yuri.
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>>3589643
Curse of Kudan isn't _super_ fucked-up but it's got at least some dark bits going on and I didn't see it on your list.
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>>3589643
https://medibang.itch.io/sutekina-kanojo-no-tsukurikata
Fucked up enough that a lot of the yuri crowd hates it.
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>>3589694
I think the problem is not so much that it's fucked up, lots of yuri fans love fucked up stuff, but that there's fucked up het backstory, or something along those lines. Haven't read it myself so don't know for sure, too much safer backlog already.
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>>3589701
pretty sure the drama was overblown
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I don't think Mòrag x Brighid needs tight googles, Brighid makes fire heart animations and said she doesn't want to keep on living if Mòrag dies.
Bu yeah, if you play the game only for them you will be disappointed.
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>>3589693
Thanks for the rec, this one slipped under my radar. Will check it out!

>>3589694
Ah yes, I've heard of this one. I was intrigued by the premise, but it got review-bombed when it came out. I'll give it a try, from the premise it seems the closest to what I'm looking for atm. Will report back.
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Why do fuckers always add het rape instead of lesbian rape in yuri stories?
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>>3589785
because lesbian rape doesn't statistically happen and makes no sense to use as a traumatic past event
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>>3589805
A shame, fat ugly old women as rapists should become a meme just like their male counterpart.
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>>3589806
>hentai memes
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>>3589805
>no sense to use as a traumatic past event
And wouldn't she be scared of/loathing women then? I don't want a yuri story like that.
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>>3589643
Sutekina kanojo no tsukurikata is a short yuri VN featuring a yandere protagonist.
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>>3589750 here.

Finished playing through Sutekina Kanojo no Tsukurikata. It's a decent yandere story, though I wish we got more from Nazuna's perspective to better draw out the horror. There is also an implied het rape backstory, but there's no explicit CGs--the implied het rape is not described. More details: At some point in the story Nazuna finds a video of Sumire on all fours with a dog collar, where a man injects her with a mystery drug. This is described entirely in text.

If anyone else played this, here are some more detailed spoilery thoughts.

Doc. I really wonder who Doc is, what with her shadowy existence. Near the end, with Sumire signing off her goodbyes to Doc, the possible response choices get fudged up with code. Then you get the BRAINWASHING_COMPLETE message. Who is doing the brainwashing? Is there some kind of force outside of Sumire and Nazuna? Or is it just an esoteric way of saying that Nazuna was successfully brainwashed by her and that Doc is all in Sumire's mind? The latter seems likely, but when the distorted choices and code started popping in, it made me wonder if this was all set in some sort of weird simulation world. (cont in pt 2)
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>>3589830 cont.
Sumire's Motives. So we know that Sumire conflates Nazuna with her first crush, which seems to be an MMO character who looks exactly like Nazuna. My thoughts are that Sumire probably met up with MMO-Nazuna, who ended up being the group of men who drugged her. She repressed this memory (in one of the bad ends we see that Sumire has a habit of repressing unpleasant memories). Once Nazuna showed up, Sumire fixated on her with the cost of her repressed memories popping up via nightmare. There's no real 'good end' where the two end up 'happy' together. The best end is the one where Sumire goes outside, sees another girl, and decides to fixate on her instead after realizing that she didn't need 'Nazuna', she just needed a 'person'.

I thought that was unsatisfying considering how thus far Sumire's fixation seemed pretty Nazuna-focused, but it raises the question of what exactly Sumire is looking for with these girls. Is it just someone who is dependent on them? The farthest you can go in the story with Sumire and Nazuna together has Sumire eventually getting bored of Nazuna, falling back into her old attention-seeking habits online, faking her own pleasure when they have sex, and eventually deciding to do a mutual suicide so that she wouldn't have to look at Nazuna with boredom and indifference. Which seems to indicate that, no, dependence isn't enough. So what was the 'something' Sumire realized she could find with the other girl? Maybe Sumire is just the type of person who's a player and hops from one person to another, but that doesn't seem to fit in with her backstory.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
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>>3589831
Yeah I have a thought, how come Goofy can walk upright and talk but Pluto can not if they are both dogs?
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>>3589840
Because Goofy owns Pluto. Literally.
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>>3589840
Stop having thoughts.
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>>3589816
Not really, most women who get abused by men still marry a dude and have kids with him in the end.
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>>3589865
It's almost like you can't make someone straight or gay.
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>>3589868
So if the MC of the story is already a lesbian, the rape won't make her hate women like >>3589816
said.
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>>3588917
Anyone can do that whenever. If you literally do this to fuck with shops, all of them will just stop selling you stuff.
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>>3589805
> traumatic past event
Who said anything about traumatic
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>>3589929
in the game we're talking about it is, it's not a porn game
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>>3589878
At this point making the rapist a woman would give the writer points for originality at least.
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>>3589878
Frankly, lesbian rape is mostly done when the partner wants to force the other into still saying she feels good around her. When there's conflict and no sex, sometimes one partner may be more dominant.
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>>3589936
more like points for being delusional
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>>3589805
>>3589878
Lesbian rape certainly exists in non-anomalous, though the situation most common circumstances have very different connotations than het rapes. If I had to guess, the most common forms are:
1) Coercion based rape by a long-term partner like >>3589970
2) A very young girl (like under 10) being victimized by someone older

You can argue whether these situations are considered "lesbian" or "rape", but suggesting that female-on-female sexual assault is such a statistical anomaly that any depiction of it is pure fantasy is disingenuous.
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>>3590044
>depiction of it is pure fantasy is disingenuous
it's not, it's extremely rare.
And to your common forms
1) life isn't a porn plot
2) pedophilic rape. Keeping in mind over 90% of pedophiles are male and over 99% of rapists are male, should point out how rare female pedophile rapists should be
Of course it happens from time to time but to even act like female on female rape isn't an unlikely anomaly is denying reality
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There's nothing more retarded than equaling real life to VNs and saying that in yuri stories that there is rape, the rapist should be a guy, just because it's more "realistic". Kill yourself.
The only reason the rapists in those are guys is because the artist is a piece of shit and almost certainly a guy and find the idea hot. There's no reason for it to not be a woman, and no, it doesn't make it good, but atleast it isn't something that doesn't belong in a yuri work.
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>>3590067
Making it a woman would just be to have it be hot, if the rapist is gonna be depicted as the piece of shit that they are and the scene is meant to be scary and sad, it's gonna be a man. Retarded purityfag
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>>3590071
You are actually insane. Do you just find rape hot and is projecting on other people? It can be a traumatic experience even if the person assaulting you is someone in your "strike zone". There's no reason to add a guy in a yuri story just so he rapes one of the characters.
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>>3590078
Name a single time a female rapist was used in a yuri story and depicted negatively. You can't
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>>3590067
Based
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>>3590086
Plenty of bad end in VNs often mentioned here have bad end rape where rape is obviously portrayed as a awful thing. But if you mean a character that does nothing but rape one of the characters, I don't really have an example, mostly because it pretty much never happened in any yuri game I've went through.
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>>3590078
You can't really think female perpetrated rape has the same perceived weight to it as male perpetrated rape. Of course writers will consider that difference when writing their works. It sucks but that's life.
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>>3590105
The real reason is that mostly shitty writers will use rape to traumatize characters, so it's no surprise that when they're that shitty, that they will make it a guy to top it off. THAT'S the main reason you won't see it happen, since there's not that many yuri VN and much less that want to be using rape to characterize someone. It's properly used to portray bad endings when the girls's relationship go wrong, at best, otherwise not at all.
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>>3590105
>>3590115
or maybe it's because female perpetrated rape is a statistical anomaly, which you'd know if you had actually looked at crime statistics. No it's just classic sexist prejudice against men and unoriginal writers.
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>>3590116
Can't you fucking read? It's because it's a garbage fucking way to traumatize a character. Stop with your statistics shit, you will not find a single writer that go do something as idiotic as see statistics before deciding which kind of fucking rape they will add in their terrible story. "They were raped by a man" is, at this point, an known terrible plot point for a character in a yuri work, anyway, it screams they're just trying to get on with girls because they hate man yada yada that nobody that really likes yuri stories enjoy reading.
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>>3590119
>It's because it's a garbage fucking way to traumatize a character
>you will not find a single writer that go do something as idiotic as see statistics
random statements portrayed as absolutes. There are plenty of people in the world traumatised by rape, it perfectly reasonable to make a character like this. Authors often look at the world for inspiration after all. Also you might want all yuri stories to take place in a fantasy world were women commit rape regularly, but don't assume everyone here wants that. You're too dumb and childish to argue with, so let's leave it here.
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>>3590125
You're genuinely insane. You're calling me childish and saying I "want yuri stories to take place in a fantasy world were women commit rape regularly", When I said rape is a terrible way to traumatize a character. I'm saying that if you're a dumb writer that really feels they HAVE to put rape in their yuri story, then atleast make it woman on woman, nothing more. As I stated, everyone knows how frustating it is to find those characters in yuri works that "like woman because man are scum" kind of shit.
Just off yourself, I'll be glad if you never post again.
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>>3590125
Fuck off
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>>3590128
>>3590132
stop samefagging
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>>3590134
I agree with him, fuck off.
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>>3590125
Most yuri VNs are already in a fantasy world where all woman only like other woman, so why not go all the way?
Do you even really play the yuri games posted here?
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>>3590067
>There's nothing more retarded than equaling real life to VNs
Agreed, that's stupid.
>The only reason the rapists in those are guys is because the artist is a piece of shit and almost certainly a guy and find the idea hot
That is equally stupid. I've read shitloads of stories by lesbian women that involve brief references to male rapists, usually because the writer hates men and wants to make them all out to be monsters. In circa-2000 lesbian fic this became an absolutely exhausting cliche because practically every story involved a man attempting to assault one of the protagonists so that the other could rescue her and therefore prove that Women Were Better.

Yes, in a hentai game, if there is a lovingly drawn CG of a million dicks penetrating the 'lesbian' heroine, it's probably because it's someone's fetish. However, that's not the case for the game under discussion, which has no images of the male assault and is only using it as a background event to help explain why the protagonist is batshit insane.

Obviously you can have female rapists in a story. DOesn't the protagonist herself become a female rapist? I didn't play it but I thought that's what the spoilers said. But "I tried to arrange a date with a girl on the internet and then she took advantage of me" is a very different flavor of trauma than "I tried to arrange a date with what I thought was a sweet girl and instead it was five men and they abused me and I snapped and became evil".

Though I suppose it would work if you were trying to meet up with a cute internet girl and she turned out to be an occult spider demon who did unspeakable things to you and pushed you over the corruption threshold. Damn, now I want that as a backstory somewhere.
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Would you two assholes just get a room and rape each other already? Tired of this will they won’t they crap.
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>>3590139
"the universe is nothing but lesbians" is also a pretty boring trope when it gets overused, though it's a good time every once in a while when you want to be sure you can avoid all the gay angst bullshit
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>>3590145
>usually because the writer hates men and wants to make them all out to be monsters
sure anon sure, that's it, if they don't include a "not all men" they are man-haters
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>>3590139
that's just increasing the amount of lesbians, not completely changing female nature
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>>3590149
You telling me you've really never read a story by an angry young lesbian who thinks all men are scum?
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>>3590176
Sad to see how some yuri games have so little budget they can't afford color.
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>>3590171
sounds based
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>>3589296
>>3589298
I finished the teacher route and I can't believe they squeezed another love triangle into it somehow. The flirting was highly improved over Nao's route which I greatly appreciated, especially how forward Kaede was the entire route, but the way Asuka self destructed and then Kaede waits like a week to clear up that she isn't breaking up with her was very odd and took the fun out of the ending for me. At least no guns or vomit was involved I guess. I am getting the feeling that Sakuya's route must be the closest thing to the "true" route in this game so I'll probably try that next although I'm not looking forward to how many love triangles that is going to involve.
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>>3590071
>Making it a woman would just be to have it be hot,
Make it an ugly old fat woman, problem solved.

>>3590086
Yumeutsutsu bad ending.
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>>3590192
>I'm not looking forward to how many love triangles that is going to involve
Hahahahaha...
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https://nisamerica.com/blog/caligula-effect-2-developer-qa
>As for χ, I created her as a sort of love child between μ and Aria in order to make her more apparent as their successor.
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>>3590201
Oh yeah, how is The Caligula Effect 1 and 2 /u/-wise?
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>>3590206
Overdose (1) has some excellent /u/ between the protagonist and another main character (and a bit with another main character as well) though it's not the focus. 2 has significantly less, unfortunately, mostly just flirting here and there and a couple shippable side couples. Though 2 is the better game otherwise.
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>>3590206
In the first game (because I haven't beaten 2 yet):
>you can make Suzuna obsessed with you
>There is some flirting with Mifue
>Ayana is blatantly into FeMC, asks what she thinks about gay marriage and even says she loves her in the betrayal ending where you backstab everybody and destroy the world
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>>3590176
Can I have some sauce with that please.
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>>3590291
Image search is a thing anon.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716480/_Tied_by_your_Red/

Has anyone played this? Steam page looks like it was machine translated.
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>>3590406
It says no English yet, they'll work on it later. Which may imply they intend to have someone at least glance at the game text after MTLing it.
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I still hope Seven Sacrifices will get translated, but there's little to no hope now. Guess knowing Japanese is not enough anymore and I may have to learn Chinese as well (not to mention some CN-EN translations really being MTL-tier).
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>>3590406
Thanks nee-chan.
>chinese only
pain
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Am I the only one who thinks Yuna and Nanami's relationship in the first sonohana game is... kinda fucked up and unhealthy?
Yuna constantly pushes Nanami's boundaries in every scene, and also clearly steps over them. There's also background music selected to convey this impression. The most obvious example of this is the watersports, but almost everything Yuna does is boundary-pushing.

Sonohana clearly dropped this angle later, going into levels of vanilla so sweet that they cause diabetes. There's an edge here that I think was filed off. Did anyone else get this impression?
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>>3590788
You definitely aren't alone on that. I don't have it on me, but around the time the first game got translated there was this joke comic that was made from someone going into it thinking they'd get cute and fluffy yuri only to be hit with piss.
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>>3590790
"Lol piss" was most people's take away from it, yes, but I instead took away that Yuna is a massive asshole and their relationship is incredibly unhealthy.
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>>3590793
Oh, almost forgot. The other thing I took away from it was that the piss thing wasn't about piss at all. Yuna doesn't have a piss fetish, but instead is just doing it to push Nanami to do something she is uncomfortable with.
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>>3590793
I got that impression too anon. Came in expecting some fluffy yuri, but instead found that at almost every opportunity Yuna was very pushy and manipulative in getting Nanami to go along with whatever she wanted.

Been a while since I played but I remember every time Nanami expressed discomfort, Yuna would say something like, '....so you don't love me?'
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best yuri only eroge?
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>>3590790
Here, probably.
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>>3590815
Yeah that's the one. Thing is as twisted as their relationship is I'd still take it over that of Nanami's early friends. For the ones that don't know before the first Sonohana VN came out there was a mini webnovel about her and her friends. One friend was a brocon that was fucking her brother and the other a shotacon that was doing the same with some kid. Needless to say they pretty much don't exist anymore.
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From Endwalker. These two had a couple of cute moments during the infiltration.
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Was it just me, or did Saki's bad end in YureMaster heavily imply that Ai was still fucking her even after her mental regression?
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>>3591320
It's not rape if they can't say no.
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>>3591324
I kinda expected fluff, not 'and then I had sex with a comatose girl'
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>>3591326
You chose the wrong game devs for that.
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They will announce a game with lesbians in it during the game awards!
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>>3591591
Who are "they"?
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>>3591615
Them!
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>>3591615
Triple parentheses.
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>>3581771
any games that involve yuri and hypno/corruption?
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>>3591324
These games are just the right level of dark in some of the endings. I just wish that some of the LIs were more assertive/aggressive.





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