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Zenkai no Rabu Raibu: >>3737945

August 3- Honoka’s Birthday (μ’s)
-WE WILL by Liella released (Liella)
August 7- Natsumi Onitsuka’s Birthday (Liella)
August 8- Setsuna’s Birthday (NHSIC)
-Rikako Aida’s Birthday [Riko’s VA] (Aqours)
August 10- Oikakeru Yume no Saki de released (Liella)
August 13-14- Aqours CLUB Activities Live at Kira Messe Numazu (Aqours)
August 16- Shuka Saito’s Birthday [You’s VA] (Aqours)
August 17- Welcome to Bokura no Sekai/Go!! Story released (Liella)
August 24- Junjou Amabile Drama CD released (NHSIC)
August 26- Collab single with Hatsune Miku released (Aqours)
August 26- Niji S2 BD3 released, bundled with ‘Romance no Naka de’ by AZUNA and Unit Live and Fan Meeting Vol 3 AZUNA Day 2. (NHSIC)
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Kanon's future wife.
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>>3757401
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the SS-fag in the general thread is hilarious and pathetic at the same time, it's like those kids trying so hard to prove that Sega is better than nintendo or vice versa.
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>>3757424
are you talking about the guy that always thinks everyone is a samefag from twitter, jumpman, etc?
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>>3757453
I think so, more specifically this anon:

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Why does he hate Niji S2 so much? Was this guy like this too back when it aired last season? The last time I was active in the general threads was September-ish last year.
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>>3757831
It all started after they announced Superstar on Day 2 of LL Fest, the big Anniversary milestone concert. Threw water on everyone's face and idiots started an argument over who is the legitimate group.

Oh well.

At least when the Vtubers come out in 2 months we can all unite against one enemy.
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>>3757837
Speaking as probably the biggest Niji fan in this thread, I don't give a single fuck about who's the legitimate group.
I just want to watch a good story with good yuri. That is all.

I also don't get the animosity towards that V-Tuber project considering we have no clue what it's about. I'll reserve my judgement until there's something to judge.
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>>3757831
>Why does he hate Niji S2 so much?

It can also be envy, as Niji has been the genuinely good group with a really good anime, full of good characters, yuri and consistent writing, most importantly without cheap fan service, in contrast to Super Stars which is the series has done things a lot worse than OG and Sunshine combined.

>>3757837
>At least when the Vtubers come out in 2 months we can all unite against one enemy.
I would like that, the problem is that Vtubers are perfect for the terrible way that the LL fandom has been handled all these years, with fanarts and fics based on little or no information about the characters, any resemblance of that material with the canon is pure coincidence.
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>>3757831
>Why does he hate Niji S2 so much?
To get replies and stir shit up. As simple as that.
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>>3757916
talking as someone that doesn't experience the same revulsion towards vtubers that the rest of the fanbase (apparently) does, it seems that it's mostly the fact that LL staff appears to be just chasing a fad when they were THE trend setters in anime idol before. Also that the seiyuu are an important part of the franchise and vtuber shit hides the face of their performers which runs counter to the franchise's spirit
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>>3757958
>the seiyuu are an important part of the franchise
They will still be an important part of the franchise even if they're voicing vtubers. And the actual characters playing the vtubers will still be part of the show. They'll just have an additional mask on top of that, like Rinarin.

>LL staff appears to be just chasing a fad when they were THE trend setters in anime idol
How many anime do we have right now about vtubers, let alone idol vtubers?

I still think most of the hate is just from people who dislike vtubers.
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>>3757985
Why are you even telling me this? You don't need to convince me of anything, go to twitter and maybe you will find someone that will argue with you about this, I honestly don't give a fuck
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>>3757985
>They'll just have an additional mask on top of that, like Rinarin.
the difference is that LL revolves around having live performances and meeting the VA, Rinarin on the other hand works more like a hybrid between virtual pet and Idol, that Niji removed the mask at the end only proves that she has evolved and the comparison Has no sense.

Vtuber on the other hand, revolves mostly around living in disillusionment, people pretending they're not just characters.

if we had people pretending that "red x blue" would be the gayest thing in LL just for superficial information, vtubers is a good fit for this franchise.
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>>3757917
Show us where the evil fanfics hurt you, onee-chan.
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>>3757916
As someone that enjoys to watch some V-tubers I know that no anime franchise can work with the way things work in the V-tuber format. V-tubers rely a lot on heavy moderation and self-moderation something that I really doubt will be tolerated in the toxic japanese idol fandom. It is just a matter of time until those guys say or do some dumb shit that is noticed by people outside of the otaku community.
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>>3757985
>They'll just have an additional mask on top of that
If I took that off, would they die?
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>>3757916
>don't get the animosity
It's a move away from the franchise's roots towards following the current trend, in the hopes of making money.

I also think none of the LL Tubers will do anything interesting but join the content mill of the mainstream Vtubers. What does 6 hours of Minecraft/Apex have to do with LL? Don't know. Do I want to see someone review some so-called memes? No. Not to mention, the way Tubers speak in-character gets annoying. I am barely tolerating Natsumi.

I've seen enough of this content during the lockdown to know what it's like and the mainstream entertainment just ain't good.

>>3757985
>How many anime do we have right now
There was one anime a while back but with Vtubers you don't need anime, just fucking endless donations.

>from people who dislike vtubers.
Yes, and?
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>>3758100
Learn some English and stop using Google Translate, will ya?
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>>3758266
>just a matter of time until those guys say or do some dumb shit
If you're going to drag 'that' up. Look at your own backyard. I fondly recall the shit that happened with one Rushia.

Also I can count at least two anime franchises which have tried vtubing, but those have remained secondary gigs.
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>>3758264
GrandLeviathan's commissioned LL story tells me GL did not actually watch the show, and one should only take on work if they are not familiar with the franchise.

Most LL Seiyuu RPF sucks, they just assume the RL people act like their fictional counterpart.
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>>3758349
>It's a move away from the franchise's roots
No. The problem with this franchise is that they keep doing the same shit over and over again.

If they try to pull off the idiotic "school idol group of exactly 9 girls trying to save their school from being closed" plot one more time...
It didn't work the first time with Muse. It still didn't work the second time with Aqours. It was a fucking insult to the audience's intelligence when they did it the third time with Liella.
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>>3758464
>is that they keep doing the same shit over and over again
>"school idol group of exactly 9 girls trying to save their school from being closed" plot
The plot was always an excuse to sell CDs from the 2010s-2012 days. The Drama CDs I listened to made little ref to the urgent need to save the school. Really there is probably only a slight mention of it (if you glint) in the first MV. The core of the show is Idols who happen to be schoolgirls based out of the club, while their seiyuu perform live. Do that and it's Love Live.

The only reason LL became famous for that plot, to the point they keep repeating it, is that Hanada and the writing team made the dumb plot work far better than it should have in a 13 episode anime. It ain't the best story, to this day I still think it's stupid, but it worked well enough to turn a franchise selling 3 to 4000 CD units at most into a multi-million dollar cashcow competing toe-to-toe with Idolm@ster and at times even the big hitters like One Piece, Madoka.

Still, there are stories they could do and if it is repetitive- that's on the anime writers who have created their own gilded cage and refuse to saw themselves out. From what I remember of the SIF stories, and the manga I've read, it was just chapter-to-chapter SOL to the point I barely remember there was a school that needed saving.

I'm not enthused about them doing the same thing over and over again, and maybe the series needs a change in pace. But the last thing I would welcome is for them to follow the Donkey and jump onto the current trend. That's not originality, that is following.
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>>3758468
>that Hanada and the writing team made the dumb plot work far better than it should have in a 13 episode anime
No he didn't. The franchise was a success despite the anime being shit.
I've heard so many people say something like "yeah the anime's kinda bad but I liked the characters/music" when talking about/recommending the anime back then.

The boring story. The wack pacing. The unnatural dialogue. The cringe comedy. The underdeveloped characters.
Contrary to popular belief, they didn't start from Sunshine S2 or from Superstar. They're all already there from the very beginning. And they're all still here after almost 10 years.
Why do they keep hiring Hanada? And he keeps making literally the same shit just with barely different characters.

I'd rather have the V-Tuber shit. If it turns out to be a failure then at least it would be a new kind of failure. It would still be better than 10 years of the same garbage over and over and over again.

And remember how people dismissed Nijigasaki back then. "Solo idols? That's not what love live's about. Idolmaster ripoff. Reeeee"
Look at them now. They're the best part of this stagnant franchise.

Even the Yoshiko isekai spinoff anime thing sounds good to me, a dedicated Yoshiko hater. Why? Because it's not the same fucking garbage again.
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>>3758584
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>>3758536
>franchise was a success despite the anime being shit
You know nothing about what the franchise was like before the anime aired

>"yeah the anime's kinda bad but I liked the characters/music"
Then in the end it still did the job of exposing the franchise to more viewers.

>V-Tuber shit
So you'd rather have a pile of shit to gobble on just because the anime writers have creativity problems. Okay.
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>>3758840
The anime made the franchise popular, but the anime was shit.
Is it that hard to understand? Popularity does not equal quality. The Love Live anime was a prime example of that.

>So you'd rather have a pile of shit to gobble on just because the anime writers have creativity problems. Okay.
Yes. I'd rather eat a new kind of shit (that may or may not be actually shit mind you) than Hanada's rancid shit that has zero chance of being not shit because he keeps trying to remake the fluke that he made 10 years ago along with all of its problems.
So yeah, if it's either vtuber school idols or Muse clone #379, I'd take the vtubers. As long as Hanada has nothing to do with them.
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>You know nothing about what the franchise was like before the anime aired

I was during the broadcast of S1 and even S2, but the series were not as popular as it is today, Doujins in general were counted on the fingers of the hands, I think it was something else that helped LL, I think which was somewhat gacha but I'm not too sure.

>Then in the end it still did the job of exposing the franchise to more viewers.

like the Tsukihime anime.

>writers have creativity problems.
They have had these problems forever, we must not forget that LL as an anime is written as a comedy first and the other things later, but even from OG there is a problem of characterization and inconsistencies.

>>3758935
>Popularity does not equal quality.
if you look at the arguments of the "fans" popular couples, that's the main basis for them, even when the couple doesn't really work or they don't even try to make it work.

>but the anime was shit.
be careful there, the most they will tell you is that the manga is better or other materials, even when most of the fandom does not give a shit about it and just as something anecdotal.

Maybe we wouldn't have so many complaints against the main line, if it weren't because Niji is proof that a good LL anime can be made, with consistent characterization and yuri that isn't cheap fanservice.
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>during the broadcast of S1 and even S2, but the series were not as popular as it is today
There was a fanbase well before the anime aired. 2010-2013 they were relying solely on CD sales, the magazine and anyone willing to go to concerts or pick up a CD. The sales back then were low. The anime bought the series to a consistent Top 10 hitter on Oricon. I'm not sure what you're getting at, but if you're trying to say 'it is not as popular as today' then it was even worse before the anime.

>even from OG there is a problem of characterization and inconsistencies
To some extent true but that's what happens when you assign different writers and give them free reign, with little but a template character.

>yuri that isn't cheap fanservice.
I really don't get why the Niji fans on /u/ somehow think Niji is somehow gayer than the other entries. They will, as a fact, never confirm that Yuu and Ayumu to be an actual canon couple.
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>>3758935
>may or may not be actually shit mind you
Having had a glance at what the mainstream Vtubers do, and I know for a fact that the LL tubers will most likely take after them, yes there's a high chance it will be shit. 6 hours streaming Minecraft is not LL material.
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>>3759093
>I really don't get why the Niji fans on /u/ somehow think Niji is somehow gayer than the other entries. They will, as a fact, never confirm that Yuu and Ayumu to be an actual canon couple.
Cuz it is. There's a spectrum between full-on scissoring and literally nothing.

YuuPomu quoted Natsume Soseki and got away with it. All Superstar has is the chink insulting blonde hair for no reason """joke""" that they keep reusing every episode of this season.
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People on my twitter feed were hyping this up as the yuriest thing in Love Live to date, but it was just... low to mid-tier yuri I guess.
Well it was decent compared to the absolute snorefests that were the first 3 episodes.
Could use a little less Kanon deification and Kanon solving every problem as usual.
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>>3759519
Superstar/Liellafags are unironic newfags that didn't watch Nijigasaki, or they're some of those oldfags that like to downplay everything Nijigasaki does
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>>3759534
Not just Nijigasaki. Sunshine did yuri better than Superstar imo.

I don't really want to complain that much though since at least we got something this week instead of nothing as usual.
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>forced meme ship
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I bet this thing is just a porn video compilation of Muse and Aqours.
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Stop falseflagging, you mentally ill Nijihater
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>Forever be my rival
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In the War between Niji and Superstar, which has somehow come to /u/, I think both anime-sides are boring.

The music is good though.
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>>3760122
The saga continues.
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>>3759822
>>forced meme ship
which of the 2 or the 2?
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Was episode 4 tonight another one the sub groups screwed up the subtitles on?
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>>3760519
No?
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>>3760519
>>3760521
Tried AWS and SubsPlease and neither one had subtitles when I played them. Team ONiBE's does have them.
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>>3760528
looks like the problem is CR-side
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>>3760402
NTA but both of them. Tsunderes and Kuuderes are two of the most uninspired character archetypes in anime. They're both 20 years out of date.
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>>3760550
There's no bad archtype, only bad writing. Any type can be good if you don't just stick to a giant cliche.
It's like saying every game of genre X has to be bad.
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Mei and Shiki are cute and gayer than everything we've had so far in Superstars at least.

It's not YuuPomu but it's gayer than over half of the ships in the franchise at least.
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>>3760580
Don't care about YuuPomu. Don't care about Shiki. It should have been Rika and one more N girl.
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>>3760580
I'd care more about them if red hair wasn't an obnoxious Hanayo.

I'd care more about all of Liella if they stop making those wacky faces and stop overreacting at everything.
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>>3760622
for what it's worth, last episode was fairly contained with the meme faces. Probably because they needed to fit development for two girls under the same time allotted for one, but it's an improvement I guess.
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>>3760628
Honestly, I agree. Next episode seems like it'll have a lot of them though

I'm probably going to skip all episodes from now on until purple hair what's her name shows up again.
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>>3760580
>Mei and Shiki are cute and gayer than everything we've had so far in Superstars at least.
although that is not much merit when most of the content of SS is Kanon and friends.

>it's gayer than over half of the ships in the franchise at least.
It's sad that this isn't much of a credit to the mainline either.

>>3760622
>if they stop making those wacky faces and stop overreacting at everything.
the main line has been characterized and based on that, OG even had several "cut away" moments like Family Guy.

>>3760644
no, you have to suffer together with us, none of us can be happy.
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Liella ships pixiv current ranking:
1)KanoChisa(1518)
2)KekeSumi(1377)
3)KanoKeke(1005)
4)KanoSumi(417)
5)KanoRen(317)
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14)RenNatsu(14)
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ShikiMei is cute, it reminds me of RinPana and Sunshine S1 RubyMaru
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Hi everyone.

Is it just me or Superstar is kinda superior to Nijigasaki?.

Well at least for me, Superstar looks great, the animation looks more handrawned and charming. The girls are very charismatic, the comedy is so cute, the voice acting is so entertaining. The story, well, the story is not that different from what we've seen so far, but at least there's more conflict and adversity. Overall it is more cartoonish and vibrant.

Nijigasaki on the other hand feels more sterile, voice acting is bland, the girls are boring. The story has nothing to it, it is mostly rich girls living in total opulence. This last season left me very disappointed, I was excited to see Mifune in action and oh dear, she was meh . Also the animation feels more CGI-ish

I was wondering why do they look so different?. According to Wikipedia, both come from the same studio but, the writer of Superstar is also credited as a writer in freaking K-ON, and as lead writer of other big hits like Chunibyo and Sound Euphonium!, well that explains a lot

What do you guys think?.
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>>3762219
>What do you guys think?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ilNVargiC8

now seriously speaking, with the redxblue episode (I watch LL until Thursday) I realized something, this anime is really mediocre in every way, exaggerated and melodramatic at the same time and the ridiculous dependence on Kanon takes away the possibility to others characters, it was Chisato's chance to shine, rather than "hey look, she's the club president"
forced sumikeke dynamics because there is a danger that fans will forget that they are a thing.

>>3760956
>it reminds me of RinPana
yes, it felt like the stupid version of that couple and it fulfills the same function, "preterminated couple that everyone pretends to be good, but nobody really cares"
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>>3762219
This is literally a reddit post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveLive/comments/wmal4t/why_does_superstar_look_different/
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>>3762463
It's funny how the general consensus is that Niji is better and they give arguments for that, I'm impressed.
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>>3762219
>Nijigasaki on the other hand feels more sterile, voice acting is bland, the girls are boring.
Exactly this but Liella
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>>3762480
Regarding the voice acting, I've seen a lot of people in Jap twitter say the same thing.
The word that they're using to describe it is 棒読み (bouyomi) meaning "reading something in monotone with no regards to punctuation or intonation", which I think is spot on.

This is more of the director's fault than the voice actresses' though. And the script writer's for cramming in so many words per line to the point that it sounds unnatural.
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>>3762473
one of the few good things that the Muse vs Aqours shitshow left is that the fanbase isn't averse to arguments and discussions of this nature (regarding the quality of each series, of course blatant shitflinging will get you laughed out of almost every LL community) and as long as you don't attack anyone that doesn't deserve it (the seiyuu, mostly), you will find someone that will listen to you. That and the honeymoon phase for Superstar has long passed, and now that they have realized that the "Maybe season 2 will be better" cope most people feel (somewhat rightly so) disillusioned with staff and the writers
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>>3762503
that the "Maybe season 2 will be better/they are setting up this plot for season 2!" cope was bullshit*
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>>3762497
>This is more of the director's fault than the voice actresses' though.
As with Star Wars I, II and III, they are good actors, Lucas is that he is incapable of portraying human emotions.

Although if you consider that, OG had similar problems, you could see that the performance of some VAs was better than others, with the worst examples being Maki and Nozomi (Maki was not popular for being a good character)

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>>3762505
>"Maybe season 2 will be better/they are setting up this plot for season 2!"

it's even more hilarious when they went the route of bringing in even more characters, instead of building on what they already had and ignoring building on the ones they already had as well, even basically ditching Sunny Passion in favor of a "new rival" it does even worse.

it's as if they never had any clear direction and just did everything on the fly.



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