A thread to discuss any personal yuri creations you're currently working on or have ideas for, and to get feedback and advice from other anons. Tell us what you're making!This includes but is not limited to:>yuri stories (note that fanfiction has it's own dedicated thread)>yuri video games>yuri comics>yuri card games>yuri 3D modeling and/or printing>yuri graffiti>yuri food>using deep learning to construct two sentient female AI and setting them up on a blind dateNote that all the normal board rules still apply, e.g. no hetshit, etc.
>>3757815I'm working on a yuri VN right nowIt's about a girl with magic powers who has been tasked with keeping magic a secret. She has forsaken her love of other girls for the sake of her mission, and views herself like a machine. One day she discovers a magic club ran by three delusional girls who mistakenly believe that they have magic powers of their own.One of them thinks she can hear ghosts talk, another is an anxiety ridden fortune teller whose predictions always go wrong, and another is a tomboy who insists that she's descended from an ancient clan of magical samurai.The very idea of the club enrages our hero. She sets out to gain their trust and blacmail each of them into giving up their pursuit of magic, but she slowly falls in love with them as their shenanigans melt her icy heart.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2098600/Kiss_the_Demiurge/I dropped some steam codes in the games thread and I'll drop a few more around here when we release. Please look forward to it.
Neat.
What's your dream /u/ project that you will never get around to making?
>>3757815is anyone here creating a webtoon or something?
Are RPGMaker games still a thing?
Where can I "publish" a manga? I just post it on my twitter/pixiv? Not looking to have it printed but I want it read. I have no idea how this works. I've seen some authors publish as a free kindle book but that might come out as too hassling.
>>3760887Depends on what you mean, are you doing a more webcomic style where it's published over a couple of days or weeks because Twitter and Pixiv would probably work fine for that. If you want to release it all at once there's itch.io, it's mainly for games but has a comic section as well.
>>3760887Twitter images are kinda shitty quality and you can only attach four per tweet, so if it's a bunch of pages it's not great.
>>3760004Yeah but the problem is people never finish making them.
>>3760004yes, some come out from time to time, but making games is a bitch
>>3760004>>3760936Y'all ok with rushed but complete projects? This programming is slowing me down. Just gonna throw in MS paint cgs for maximum entertainment. Still half-deciding how comfy or explicit thing should get.
>>3763179I'd struggle to call a project complete if it's all half-assed with zero effort assets.
>>3763309I just want hand-written letters and items with hidden clues.
Working on some character sprites for my emotional support gasoline-dystopia-motorcycle-yuri fantasy. It's kind of a riff on the Hades and Persephone myth. Does that even sound interesting to anyone who isn't me? This is the love interest. Her name is Diana but she goes by Rook and she rides a Yamaha Virago. I recorded a melancholy little theme for her here: https://youtu.be/MxI39nozX-8
>>3766835And my main character, Claire. I feel like the chunky eyebrows are an objectively poor character design choice but I'm already attached to them
>>3766835I want her to rev my engines and ride me until I run out of gas.
>>3766843That's a win in my book
>>3766835Looks dope
>>3766836Neck is probably a bit thick. Makes her kinda look like a guy.
>>3767608Thanks for the feedback anon, these are just working sketches so I'll correct that
>Have ideas out the ass>Can't draw or write for shit
>>3766836I like the eyebrows. I want to see a girl kissing them.
Small VN project in progress, expecting a three hour runtime. Chick with green hair starts a science club, and the three other girls join because they want to woo her. Comedy-oriented with a level of mystery to figure out who is sabotaging the experiments.
>>3767996Love the boots on blondie.Just curious, how much does it cost for the art on a 3 hour VN like this?
>>3768034Thanks! Depends on the level of artist you want for the CGs, and how many CGs you want. I went for ten, which is frankly a bit overboard, but regardless, at $50-80 each from what I'd consider a good artist for CGs like this, it's about $600. If you want to make a short game, I'd recommend designing CGs without much background work, and can be changed slightly for maximum value. I'm sure you could do it for less than $150 as long as you don't take the game too seriously.
>>3758872Another yuri about tummyfag loli and yuri about loser OL.
>>3767996>>3768204Seems quite nice, keep up the good work, anon.
>>3768204I like the art. It's nice.CGs aside, what's out the cost of the character images?
>>3766835>>3766836Seems like a cool concept, but by saying a Hades and Persephone riff do you mean to say Rook steals Claire away and takes her to the dystopian world, or that by their interaction the world becomes a dystopia until she returns? I don't get how this riffs from it and only am questioning it because the myth is kind of unsatisfying for the /u/ outcome unless you deviate from it a lot.>>3767996>>3767997Poses are really dynamic, looks nice.
>>3768395Claire is the daughter of the president of a dystopian city state. At the beginning of the story she's kidnapped by Rook and her crew of motorcycling anarchists, ostensibly for political leverage, but Rook has a more personal motive that Claire is unaware of. They've set up a HQ at the heart of a maze of dilapidated subway tunnels beneath the city. It's a literal katabasis for Claire and also a metaphorical one as she comes to realize how she's been deceived by her father and how much the rest of the city has been suffering. That's the most appealing part of the Hades and Persephone myth for me -- the descent into darkness and Persephone's inability to leave once she chooses to eat the fruit of the underworld. I also just really, really love Bernini's Ratto di Proserpina (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwdjvyGXEAI9w6U.jpg) and it directly inspired the idea of an abduction story that resolves itself in lesbian romance.
I have something im working on. WW1 esc setting but in a different world. World building and history's are nearing an end, I have lists of guns tanks and working on uniforms but I feel almost at an impass on what to do. I want to make a visual novel with some top down combat simulator. Just not sure how I should continue. I'll need an artist, a programmer, and possibly a writer. I don't know how to get any of those and Im afraid any I hire may just fuck off at some point. I think the story I have is good (a girl who goes through a traumatic experience during the war is helped by another soldier and they fall in love over time)Im just stuck at trying to get it off paper
>>3769079If you want to recreate Valkyria Chronicles, I'm afraid a lot of money is needed.
>>3769169Lol. It won't be 3D. The idea for the combat would be somewhat like Girls Frontline and Fire Emblem. With FE style movement and ability to call in supports (Artillery, aircraft, naval battery, tanks). Movement is based on paths like in GFL.I do have a (((company))) twitter account if anyone is interested. I rarely update it at the moment as everything I'm doing (catagorizing guns, uniforms, vehicles) are images with Copywrite so I can't show them and claim it as my own
Nothing more than really barebones concept, but I'm thinking of something along these lines:> Two scientists (archeologists perhaps?)> They're already engaged before the story starts> They're studying an object that might be a breakthrough and a boost to their career> The two disagrees fundamentally over their hypotheses> However, the disagreement never really advances more than spats, they still respect each other
>>3769179>The idea for the combat would be somewhat like Girls Frontline and Fire EmblemSo instead of $8 million, it will cost around $4 million to make, I'm sure that helps.
Trying to design the protagonist for a potential comic project. The concept is "plain girl". Someone who'd be just a background character in a normal manga/anime.Thoughts/impressions/suggestions?
>>3769079If you are actually serious about this project of yours, here are my two cents:Don't worry too much at the beginning about the final art or even the story (unless it's a visual novel where it's the main thing), there are lots of free sprites (characters and backgrounds) available that you can use in the meantime. As long as the game design is clear (and I'm assuming this the role you want), the rest will come along or even change over time. Do you have already a kind of GDD? Where, for instance, you establish the player movement (grid based in this case, different types of terrain and its effects, movement cost...), combat, win/lose condition, even music genre, art style or what you want to transmit with the game.If you have no programming experience whatsoever to prototype it using an engine (although I'm sure for grid combat there are add-ons that you could buy), then try the board game approach and test the idea using a sheet of paper and some tokens as characters, perhaps it'd be clearer this way.The problem with romances is that usually require longer games to develop them properly. For smaller games established relationships or just flirty/subtext stories work better, but this is just my opinion. Good luck, anon.
>>3770551Overall feature and design are good. The proportions for the neck, arms, wrist, legs, knees, ankles, etc compared to the rest of her features is stretching the believable nature of the character design. Shoes don't match the rest of the design. Already see you are considering accessories and it definitely could have some sort of eye-catch even if it is meant to be a plain girl, simply because a plain protagonist who is unremarkable looking can still have some sort of distinct visual feature to distinguish her in a player's memory. Maybe could also add some lore to the sword or something like that if you don't want to add anything to her. Also I want to see her gayness described next to the color palette for contrast.
I describe my story as a "kinky romcom about depression" where the protagonist reunites with her childhood friend in their hometown and finds she's still suffering due to her abusive father, so she kidnaps her out of her house in the middle of the night because she's too depressed to leave on her own. It's centered on the protagonists having a D/s relationship when they're both in a lot of pain and are chasing an idealized fantasy to cope with it, and how this dynamic motivates them to put their lives together. I'm a really depressed person and with my bdsm kink I feel like there's this undercurrent of not being allowed it because I'm too unhealthy for it and bdsm is supposed to Totally Normal Fun for Totally Normal People. With this, I wanted to write a story about broken people who have undergone trauma being able to enjoy themselves in a kinky dynamic that makes them feel useful and desirable, and how feeling that confidence influences them to confront their problems. Yeah bad shit can happen, but you don't need to earn your Good Person degree before you do things that make you happy, and you're allowed to explore your kinks and communicate with your partner.The main inspiration was My Broken Mariko, which is about the suicide of the titular character and how her best friend Tomoyo copes with it. I feel like my mental problems only get seen in stories this dark that are defined by suffering, so I wrote something where Tomoyo manages to save Mariko because she’s angry and crazy enough to rescue the person she loves most from her own head. I want to reach a happy ending even with my depression, so I wrote one for Tomoyo and Mariko. Not literally, but the realer this story became the more my leading ladies took after them. Altogether it's taken me over three months for 40 complete pages. I didn’t know what I wanted, but I have a clearer picture now, and i learned a lot about editing, revisions and story structure.
>>3771236What's Rainy's real name, you hack?
>>3771854Rainworth Rainington. Her mom left because she couldn't accept her daughter's name sucking so much.I'll be honest, I didn't think enough people read it in the lit thread that they'd see it mentioned in elsewhere and ask me that just by remembering it from the premise. I rewrote some of it to be leaner and I'm gonna take the advice of most of the feedback I got and add more to it before I call it a full installment.I hope you enjoyed it and there's more to come. By then I'll have started adding some of that kink to my kinky romcom about depression.
>>3770785Thanks for the comment!
>>3769193>Is that... an ancient lesbian dildo?>No it's a bong
I will tried publish my novel but what edictorial is friendly with yuri and fantasy setting?
>>3770659Sorry I haven't checked the thread in a week. Thank you. It will be a mix of visual novel with combat areas. I'm not really sure how the romance will evolve over the story. The two characters that fall in love die and are reborn at the same time. They have lived through countless lifetimes and have fallen in love all over again. Only one remembers it however, and wants to break the curse so they can finally rest in peace. They meet briefly sometime before the game but meet officially when she saves the Main Character during a tense scene. After that I'm not really sure how the romance action will progress past this.Over the years I've had this idea it's gradually shifted from yuri based to being more based on psychological impacts of war and the complete deterioration of the MCs mental state.
>>3770659As for the actual game, I have little coding experience and I'm not good at it. I do have an idea for how combat will go. It will take place during a more mobile WW1 so there's a list of objectives needed to be taken in each combat scenario along with minor objectives. After initial set up of units and pre battle plans the player loses physical control and AI takes over, completing objectives to the best of ability. The only unit the player can directly influence is the MC. The player will instead use a mix of aircraft, Artillery, specialist support units to force enemies to retreat and complete objectives. Enemy units will respond to the changing battlefield but will be slow unless they have are cavalry. Eventually either the attackers resolve will break before objectives are complete, which allows you to redo the mission, or the enemies break, force a retreat, or are destroyed. This all takes place on a much greater front and continued success grants greater infamy and influence and creates opportunities for the MC to move up the local command structure.There will be some downtime and skirmishing opportunities before major offensive action is taken, either along the front or in local area, with timetables for what needs to be taken and when.
There's that story I can't plan out enough to start. The general idea is that there's an alpha-bitch kind of character, who picks on the dorky protagonist, but she has some kind of shameful secret trauma. And protagonist finds out about that secret and shows sympathy and they bond over it and realize they are gay for each other. But I can't figure out what could that reasonably be.The starting idea is abusive parents but that's not shameful enough. Sexual abuse would work, but if she gets raped by her mother and become lesbian, it's pretty weird and I don't think I want to have both romance and non-con in the same story. I'm thinking about alluding to lecherous step-father and her mother as someone who knowingly lets it happen because she's a sociopathic gold-digger, but not really sure I want to go there (And also mix het into my schoolgirl lesbians). So I'm stuck.I guess being closeted lesbian can be shameful secret enough in certain societies, but that's not something you can discover about someone without them already being involved with someone else.
>>3774625Her stepdad tried to molest her but she killed him in self-defence.
>>3774625It could be something like she accidentally caused a big accident (maybe a passed away little siblings, or friend, or something. They drowned, got hit by a car, etc.)Maybe she didn't even cause it, but think she did.
>>3775471or leave that sibling/relative alive but forever crippled for added drama (maybe the girl can't believe they don't blame her, and MC helps them reconcile)
>>3775471>>3775510That can work with adjustments, though I think for story I'm going for it's better to be something one can witness in real time by accident, rather than learn about it after the fact. Which is why I'm leaning onto domestic abuse so hard - it makes more sense to see her beaten by her parents than to learn about something in her past.
>>3775540Then maybe, if just being beaten isn't enough, her parent could force her to do something humiliating and gross, not neccessarily sexual.
>>3774625>>3775540You could also go for some kind of severe mental illness, kept in check by medication (this last part is what could be witnessed). The fact that it's a young girl being afflicted by it would make the situation specially shocking and definitely worth hiding/being ashamed about.Although this would immediately become a major part of her character and the story as a whole, so it definitely wouldn't work if you want the shameful secret to be something she just "gets over" at some point.
>>3775765That's actually a pretty good idea, I should consider it and what could it be.
A game idea I've been thinking about, feel free to steal:The purpose of the game is to be a yuri matchmaker.You, the MC, run a small matchmaking shop. Clients come in and you have a conversation with them, both to get their basic info (age, religion, etc.) but also give them a chance to explain why they are there, what they want, and so on.None of this info is saved by the game itself. You must get a physical notebook and pen and take note of whatever you think is important for this client.Maybe note her hair color? Maybe that the client likes sea turtles is important? Things like that.You get to match clients together and after a short time receive feedback from them, like an email or phone call, either about how satisfied or dissatisfied they are with their match.What constitutes a working match is determined beforehand, as every client is hand written. The game part is knowing what is important from the discussion to write down and how you connect two of your clients to find the right pair.
A page from a comic that I'm drawing.. Enjoy!
God everytime I work on something and add my personal preference to it (yuri love interests) I have to stop because it's hard to be shameless like every het isekai or an AO3 piece with way too many fucking tags.
>>3773997My case's the complete opposite, I love coding but coming up with stories and/or gameplay is a bit of a pain.So let's try this approach: create the first level/tutorial of the game.It could start with a VN segment, where the main character's introduced. Here there are different ways: maybe portraits that are highlighted with a fixed background that changes per chapter. Or keep changing portraits. Or a fixed cutscene. Or maybe a mix of both. I think FE does the latter, at least for GBA games.Actually, an average chapter loop could be somethig like Introduction, Ingame (gameplay + dialogues) and Aftermath. Then a new episode will be unlocked.After that introduction, the combat should begin (don't worry about implementation for now). It starts with a Preparation Phase where the player can choose which units to deploy (tanks, aircraft, artillery, specialists). Said units should have its advantages and disadvantages like the tank can take a lot of damage but it cannot travel all kind of terrains? And I guess the player is limited to a handful of cells to place the units, perhaps using the MC as pivot point?Once that Phase is finished, I guess the game'd need a system of priorities. If there are minor objectives, how should the units react? For instance, attacking enemies (taking into account their advantages/disadvantages) is the highest priority by default, but maybe some units can be switched to defensive or different behaviours? This part is a bit more complex without fully knowing types of unit. And this should apply to enemies too. Also, would both allies and enemies battle at the same time? Or first allies and then enemies?Lest I forget, you'd need to keep track of finished chapters, units at player's disposal (or do these units change with the chapter?). Unless there are story choices, which should be kept as well. And some options like volume, difficulty? Although I'd try to stick to the core of the game for now. Sorry for the long post.
>>3778183Feel free to quit
lets hear some more of your ideas, anons
>>3785619I always imagined a (maybe topdown? or early PS2 era fixed camera?) exploration/puzzle game set at a classic Marimite or maybe Madchen in Uniform inspired all-girls boarding school of pseudo Catholic association. You play as one of the students going about her day, helping various other girls or doing small tasks for teachers and trying to get closer to her beloved (perhaps her 'soeur'?)Only it has a sort of Bloodborne-esque progression, where as she explores and stumbles across various things, she starts to discover much of the school is a façade covering a Lovecraftian horror setting. The nebulous female saint figure the school is dedicated to is in actuality some inhuman entity being deified by a cult that many of the teachers and Seminary figures at the school are a part of. Like BB, the more "insight"/awareness you build and secrets you uncover, the more your perception broadens and the true, eldritch nature of the school bleeds through into reality. Relatively early on, MC's beloved disappears, which at first, because of the levity of the initial setting, seems very ordinary, like she just happens to be busy somewhere else in the school, doing some errand or something; but with the increasingly grim reality setting in and MC's inability to locate her becomes an ever more dire and desperate search, culminating in MC attempting to rescue her from the hands of the cult as the fabric of reality crumbles around the school.
>>3785619Idol game except from the perspective of one of around 6 idols. The relationships you can form with other characters depends on the character chosen in the beginning as well as the choices made in the story. It'd be like the IDOLM@STER type of simulation gameplay except with relationships playing a major role in the idols' careers as well as their post-idol careers. Perhaps for some characters the idol part of the gameplay will be longer bcs they start from a young age and then there can be childhood friend/enemies relations that develop into something else depending on group placements and the idols' stats.
>>3786305>Perhaps for some characters the idol part of the gameplay will be longer bcs they start from a young age andCan you mate preteen girls with one another?
Do readers of fiction starring queer women protags get put off if there are any male major supporting characters?A thing I'm writing has a lesbian protagonist and her main relationship is with her LI, while below that is her old friend from high school who's a bi man who bond over their mutual rage issues. It's a story with queer intersectionality as a focus so varying gender/sexual identities is a factor for me, I just ask because when I check out F/F stuff it's Girls Who Like Girls Only in the whole cast.
>>3757875We recently released a demo for this on Steam. If you give it a look please tell us what you think.
>>3791091>because when I check out F/F stuff it's Girls Who Like Girls Only in the whole cast.Wowee, imagine that. People who want to read F/F want to read about F/F and not a gay girl's bond with some guy.
>>3791100I'll check it out tomorrow!
>>3791091>Do readers...Normal people who enjoy F/F, or people on 4chan?I could see an ordinary reader getting disengaged if the dude started taking over the story, but you'd have to be pretty immature to be bothered by a non-lesbian having any role in the story, especially if it's not just a lesbian romance through and through and is more like a real novel with F/F being the main focus.>when I check out F/F stuff it's Girls Who Like Girls Only in the whole castWhere do you find these books? Recommendations here? Self-published stuff?
>>3791100Downloaded it on my steam deck and it loads and played a few minutes without an issue although none of the control schemes I tried really adapted to the UI so I'd have to play around more to see if any arrow keys/etc need to be bound to make that a smoother experience. The UI doesn't seem to scale much so menus and buttons are all very tiny but not much of a problem since it is just a VN. Will probably play through it during a break at work if I have time tomorrow.
>>3791133>Normal people who enjoy F/F, or people on 4chan?ykw that's fair
>>3791133Normal people aren't reading """"queer intersectionality"""" novels.
>>3791091I wouldn't be intrinsically bothered by it assuming the character itself is well written, but you should always think it over before jamming a guy in a story that's supposed to be about girls. I'd start with asking yourself: is there a reason this character has to be male? If there isn't, why not make it a girl? If there is, does this reason actually add something to the story?
>>3791410It is largely about wanting the cast to be patchwork with their gender/sexual identities. The cast is as far as I have it so far entirely queer, so it's about having all kinds of queer folks. In terms of importance it's:- The lesbian protagonist and her pan girlfriend.- The protagonist's roommate who is an asexual lesbian, and this bi guy who she's been friends with since high school. So it's about an emotional bond that can't go anywhere romantic/sexually, based on shared rage issues, and I just like the specific visual of two angry queer trash mammals being buds and having a platonic bond. He's the only major character who's a guy now that I think about it and as far as I have it he's only really a focal point in the climax Otherwise he's just someone the protagonist hands around with at times and usually in a group setting with her girlfriend and her roommate.
>>3791133>you'd have to be pretty immature to be bothered by a non-lesbian having any role in the storyBislut.
>>3791454Imo as long as>the lesbian MC doesn't sleep with him or any man at all, cause we know how much people love to pull that shit for muh drama>he doesn't take the spotlight/pagetime away from lesbian MC and her LI and their relationshipI don't really care.
>>3791538I'm umming and erring over whether they dated in high school before she figured herself out (if I did this it'd just be for lighthearted ribbing at each other's expense) but otherwise:>the lesbian MC doesn't sleep with him or any man at all, cause we know how much people love to pull that shit for muh dramaDoes this happen a lot? I can see it with queerbaiting and I liked it in Octave since it was all about Yukino's painful missteps trying to sort out what her sexuality means, but I've never seen like "the MC is confident in being a lesbian and then sleeps with a dude because ???"
>>3791583>Does this happen a lot?Yes>>I've never seen like "the MC is confident in being a lesbian and then sleeps with a dude because ???"Do you even the L Word. m8?
>>3791454>an asexual lesbianSo you're just retarded, then?
>>3791091>>3791583>I'm so confused, do people not like when males are in a story?!>btw, I'm thinking that the lesbian probably dated this guyLol, every fucking time.
When she was like 15 before she figured it out. Is this something people actually get mad over reading something?I thought it was "lesbian protag is with a girl and then sleeps with a guy dor no reason at some point." Is it really a problem that far back?-
>>3757875>>3791100I'm in the middle of checking it out right now, and while so far it's not a masterpiece by stretch of the matter, it's a simple and somewhat charming story so far. I like it. One thing, the music that plays when the 3 club girls are talking about the old war bunker is way too good for the situation. That's music you wanna save for the pre-climax
>>3758872An FPS that plays like a combination of classic Halo and Half Life 1 with semi linear levels connected to a metroidvania overworldIt takes place in the distant future after Humanity went extinct, and Humanity 2 took over as an all female species that gets babies delivered via Stork.The protagonist would fight aliens and the final boss would be an alien magical girl with just enough going on between them that people can ship them together.
>>3791670>muh tired cliche lesbian teen really needs to date a guy to figure out that she likes girls like it's the 90s and no one knows what being gay is>Is it really a problem?No, it's exactly what you'd expect from the sort of hack writer whose goal is "one of character of every queer gender/sexuality" Make sure to also have one of the main two use they/them pronouns, and one have two dads while you're at it.
>>3757875I've finished checking it out. Exact release date? Price?
>>3791729We don't have an exact release date yet but we're planning on late October. Most likely the 21st. It's a pretty simple VN so we'll charge 6usd. What did you think of it overall? >>3791699We'll look at some other song. Originally that scene just had the club theme playing the whole time and ut was way too repetitive. >>3791277Thanks for looking at it anon.
>>3791583>>3791670People here are very enamoured with the aesthetic of girls who've never had interests other than girls, not so much the kind of complexities that exist in real people.This maybe isn't the best place to get rational, clear-headed feedback about your ideas.
>>3791745It's not about purityfags being uppity (those they of course exist). Everyone loves Sarah Waters books and some of her heroines are even married to men, and it's fine since it fits the setting and narrative. But in 2022, in a modern context, "lesbian needs to try hetero relationship to know she's really gay" is a useless and boring cliche like >>3791711 said.
>>3791733Nice. I'll definitely buy it. >What did you think of it overall?I'll preface this by saying I'm the type of person to appreciate things for what they are, instead of complaining about what they aren't. >ArtStarting with art because first impressions are everything, and the first thing people see is how something looks. The art isn't great, but it does have a certain charm about it that lets me overlook it mostly. Character designs are simple, but I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing.>StoryI thought it was a, easy to follow story. It won't lie, it was bit of a slow starter, but it manage to eventually get and keep my attention, and by the end I felt disappointed that there wasn't more, so kudos.Obviously it's a demo, but I do think it's pretty promising. Have you worked on other VN's before, or is this your first?
>>3791583Just an aside, but I’m so glad to see someone who appreciates Octave for the same reasons as me but actually explains it better than I’ve ever managed.
Is there any demand for an exclusively lesbian erotic text based rpg? It's an idea that's been rattling around in my mind for a while.I noticed that there aren't any erotic non-VN games out there that are exclusively lesbian (or if they exist, please tell me where they are. and don't say lust doll that shit sucks). The closest thing would be DoL if you set everything to female, and I've tried playing that way and it's really obvious that the game isn't meant to be played that way because the content is extremely lacking and still feels very distorted by the hetshit game the way is supposed to be played.Other erotic text based games like Freecities, Lilith's throne, Fort of chains, CoC, etc all force either hetero or futa content into the game and are more focused on transformation and fetish than anything else.
>>3791757>"lesbian needs to try hetero relationship to know she's really gay" is a useless and boring clicheRight, but why would you take something as ordinary and true to life as someone not knowing they're gay until later in life than 15 as specifically that outdated and never-good cliché instead of just part of their character? To me the poster is clearly way on the other side of assuming being gay stories can and should be done a certain way.I mean, the way the idea was brought up made me think of "an awkward phase when I hadn't figured myself out yet", not "the experience that led to my big gay revelation".
>>3791765When I first posted this, I was so nervous that I felt like I was going to vomit. So I'd like to sincerely thank you for reading it.I might edit the start of the story more. As you say, first impressions are everything, so I'd like for it to hook people in a bit earlier. What's the point at which it caught your attention? I'd like to look at making the start a bit more engaging, or to at least edit it a bit to make it shorter.We made two simple mahjongsoul VNs before, one of which was yuri while the other was a short detective story. But all of the assets in those are ripped from other sources. So this is our first completely original project.
>>3791767Oh god I loved Octave. It's so personal and moody and Yukino is genuinely her worst enemy.That another character can just stare her dead in the eye like "you want to be spoiled," that was raw.>>3791773Yeah as I see things (and it's not a huge focus or anything, just pure backstory) it'd be like "ok so I know I like hanging out with girls and holding hands with them but *everyone* wants to do that right?" I don't know if that's "big gay revelation" specifically so much as she'd have figured it out if not for a hetero expectation, if that comes off correctly.I should probably stop bobbing in and out here so: it was nice to meet another Octave fan in this thread.
>>3791773TLDR KYS faggot
>>3791787Very cool and intelligent reply.>>3791767>>3791786I need to reread Octave; I remember loving it. I bought the volumes years ago and just haven't got around to it.
>>3791773>as specifically that outdated and never-good cliché instead of just part of their characterBecause it is specifically that outdated cliche. There is no magical "pArT oF tHeIR cHarActeR", because this isn't a real life person going through life's arbitrary and unpredictable events who just happened to end up that in that situation. It was an aspect deliberately tacked onto the character by anon so that they could pursue this retarded plot about the relationship between a lesbian and her former boyfriend turned best friend. It didn't just end up that way, anon specified that they're thinking about adding it as another facet of how close the two are >>3791583The entire thing just oozes shitty wattpad writing.
>>3791100Tried the demo earlier, VERY briefly so I cannot comment too much. The writing isn't Pulitzer tier by any means, but I'd say it's fair for being an amateur dev first VN.The art isn't very good. It's serviceable. Instead of having a sharp line anime style, why don't you go with the smooth watercolor anike style like on the Steam image? It definitely helps smooth put some of the wonkyness.Good luck!
>>3791796>It was an aspect deliberately tacked onto the character by anon so that they could pursue this retarded plot about the relationship between a lesbian and her former boyfriend turned best friendOr because they think it might make for an interesting aspect to the character and her relationships?Your whole rant presupposes that this is all bad and needs to be justified, which I do not agree with.>it is specifically that outdated clicheHow does "element of backstory and character relationship" equal "defining part of hackneyed character arc" in your mind, unless you just paint everything you instinctively dislike with the same brush?>The entire thing just oozes shitty wattpad writing.Okay.
>>3791841>or because they think that lesbians having dated men makes for an interesting aspectI'm sure they do. They made that pretty apparent when they talked about how they liked the part of Octave where a lesbian sleeps with a random guy for absolutely retarded reasons. That isn't inconsistent with what I said though, obviously anon likes it, or they wouldn't be putting the shitty plot element in.>you're presupposing that making an ex-boyfriend the, in anon's own words, "second most important" aspect of a lesbian character's identity/relationships is badCorrect.>How does an author picking a cliche backstory element euqal an author picking a cliche backstory element?If you want to continue to try and dance around it being a cliche by pretending that somehow the hands of fate just reached in and magically happened to pick the cliched plot completely free of any authorial intent, you're welcome to delude yourself. No amount of "it's an element of backstory and character backstory" is going to make "the villain killed my master and used to be their former apprentice" not a cliche.
Anons needing actual advice on direction who are sourcing it from /u/ are going to struggle writing meaningful ethos, logos or pathos if they can't even convince themselves of the topics they are writing about. If anons don't have educational training, or at least put real effort into learning it themselves from actual sources of knowledge, then what is anyone even making a personal yuri project for? Yuri isn't made by hitting two rocks together but you wouldn't know it from looking at the last 48 hours with the evil yuri fairy making this shit catch on fire.
>>3791874>they liked the part of Octave where a lesbian sleeps with a random guy for absolutely retarded reasonsI get the sense that you're not too good with empathy or just understanding people/storytelling.And while I could understand you disliking that development in Octave or thinking it progressed the story poorly, your constant twisting of anon's words and getting carried away with a pretty innocuous part of a story that doesn't even exist makes you come off as a paranoid weirdo.>Correct.Then I guess that's it. I have my opinion and you have your one, where I guess nothing that doesn't appeal to your sensibilities could ever belong in a story.>by pretending that somehow the hands of fate just reached in and magically happened to pick the cliched plot completely free of any authorial intentNo, no one's said that. Assuming this has been the same poster, this is the second time you've accused me of claiming that's the case. My response the first time didn't disclaim any awareness of the fact that the author put the things they did in the story deliberately, only that their end goals being what you said they were was, in my eyes, questionable.It's just not weird or a big deal, but you think it is due to your wacko perspective on things. But really, we're just going in circles at this point.
>>3791775>What's the point at which it caught your attention?Kinda hard to say specifically, but I'd say Minori's first day at her new school.
>>3785619Still waffling between "uncomfortably realistic unstable girl" and "comfy yuri harem"
>>3791931>meaningful ethos, logos or pathosdon't forget porthos and aramis
Also ligmus
>>3792580That makes sense. After all, that's the point where Minori and the reader are first introduced to the magic club and their delusions. Thanks anon.
>>3791091>Do readers of fiction starring queer women protags get put off if there are any male major supporting characters?No, I actually prefer that. I dunno, the world always feels fresher and bigger that way, to me at least.
My book has:>MC and love interest>Male friend (dies offscreen in first quarter of book)>Straight female friend (above character's sister, dies in the last quarter of book) >Straight female friend 2>^ her male love interest (introduced in third quarter of book, dies in last)>Major female supporting character (sexuality never comes up, introduced and dies in third quarter of book)>Various supporting characters, most of whom die
>>3793509Is your book set during the Black Death?
>>3793517Nah, that sounds like a Warhammer novel.
>>3793517Just a chill, idyllic fantasy setting.
What are some jobs normally done in pairs? Can't really think of any aside from CEO/Secretary, a cameraman and a reporter, two pilots.
>>3798441Sniper and spotter.Expeditor and driver.Cops.
>>3798441Waste collection. Isolated monitoring jobs are often two person jobs in media, things like working at some remote arctic/antarctic weather station or working on a space station. Because there's often shifts so you have 2+ people who spend a lot of time with no one else around. Does it need to be specifically a classic two person team job? If you're including CEO and secretary, then nearly anything can have a "partner". Or rather, two is a normal number for most small-scale service or labor jobs. Retail workers in a small store usually have 2-3 people per shift, one to handle the register and one to float. A small hole in the wall restaurant will probably have two people per shift, one cooking and one waiting tables same for fast food places, and similarly a lot of food venues that don't have an active cook, like a mid-sized bakery will have two people on register. Places like a barbershop or nail salon often have two people on the floor. Security jobs that involve routing patrols instead of just sitting at a desk will often have two guards on duty, so one can walk the patrol while the other keeps an eye on cameras and stuff. A lot of labor jobs that are "solitary" are also done with a partner, like repair sort of stuff (plumbing, electricians, mechanics), landscaping or gardening, delivery if the delivery involves larger items or a high volume. Usually a couple nurses per floor in a hospital during night shift ( I guess doctor and nurse is one of those classic 2s also).
>>3798484Two person jobs. The type where you can barely do anything alone or not work at all. I even had the idea of a thief/driver duo kek.
>>3798484Yuri about boring jobs are rare, so I guess graveyard shift nurse/retail workers would be nice. Also Customer Care can be done in pairs too.
The MC in my story's romantic relationships all have a lot of teacher-student overtones to them. But the more I edit it, the more I notice how great of chemistry she has with her own teacher. Should I actually go somewhere this?
>>3801441Why not? Were you not planning to give your MC a gf?
I have a novel/web-comic idea of a fantasy story set in a high-magic turned low-magic world. The story takes place 50 thousand years after a calamity wiped out all ancient magic-based civilizations, essentially restarting civilization from 0, only this time the magical races (elves, dwarves, etc.) are either extinct, or incredibly rare, so humans and demi-humans (half-human half-beastkin) are the primary population in the current era, which is just shy of the it's industrial revolution, relying more on science combined with magic-imbued metals harvested from ancient ruins.The MC is the last remaining divine-beastkin (unsure of beast, type - thinking 9-tailed fox shrine-maiden type or phoenix-kin with divine fire), who survived the ancient calamity by being sealed within the long-dead World Tree. Her species were birthed from the world tree's fruit (so no males in her species). She is released from her seal when a female demi-human (animal lineage not yet determined) mercenary, being pursued after an ambush, leans up against the remnant of the World Tree's roots to hide. A family heirloom (an bracelet discovered in this particular forest and passed down by her family for generations) dispels the seal, initiating their fated encounter.With the seal being undone though, the remaining magic sustaining the last remnants of the World Tree fades. The world is now slowly dying at the precipice of civilization's rejuvenation. The premise of the story is the MC bringing divine/pure magic back to the current era. To revive the World Tree she must restore the world's broken mana-veins. Conflict ensues when the mana-vein sites are discovered to be owned and being mined-dry, knowingly or unknowingly, by a nefarious capitalist underground association that has ties with high-ranking individuals and/or governments around the world.
>>3801626Seems quite interesting, I'd read it.
>>3801487She has a gf at the start of the story and certainly does care about her, but the best chemistry is with her former teacher (more of an instructor/professor). I hadn't ever planned for them to have a romantic relationship (since it's mostly flashbacks and her former teacher is a minor character without a lot of scenes together), but the idea keeps hitting my mind. It feels like she either would've cheated on her girlfriend while at school or have been strongly tempted to cheat (and probably did cheat emotionally on her gf). Is this sort of thing worth rewriting? Or since I already have so many relationships with this imbalance, I shouldn't add (even more) of another one?
>>3801626I like the premise a lot, hope you go through with it. Were you leaning one way or the other on novel/webcomic?
>>3802622Thanks! I would probably go with novel format. Mainly because I have no skills in drawing, digital or otherwise xD
>>3791773>as ordinary and true to lifelmao not every lesbian is a fucking pushoverMy parents also tried to gaslight me into thinking it's just a phase and I "just play being in love" whatever the fuck that means.
>>3791091Depends how you write them.Most authors fuck up big time by making the lesbian character sleep with him, or him being a jealous antagonistic fuck.I personally think it's somewhat important to include male characters in the works to show, that the lesbian is aware that males exist yet still choses to date chicks over them. But like I said and I can't stress it enough, most authors fuck up on that department, because they just can't pass up that free drama.Mophead from Tamen de Gushi is a good example of a straight male character in a yuri works. And if I had to write a Yuri manga that included a male support character, I would write someone like Kronk from Emperor's New Groove.
>Have a cool idea for a story>Think up characters>Plan out the world>Sketch out the plot>Get halfway through before ideas run out>Can't get past act 2>Start writing anyway>Constantly rewrite first chapter>Become demoralised>RepeatWhy am I like this?
The current story I've been toying with for a while is a sports romance novel about women's professional wrestling. Main character is a women's wrestling superfan, accidentally outs herself as a lesbian in her small town and decides to just leave. Gets scammed by a popular wrestler who promised to train her and ends up talking her way into becoming a trainee at another promotions gym. An eclectic cast of trainees, wrestlers and staff at the promotion. MC originally becomes rivals to enemies and eventually lovers with the love interest as they both work their way from trainees to aces of the promotion.My main problem is that I would like to set it in Japan since women's wrestling has been treated fairly respectfully there in the past. But I'm not Japanese and writing about Japanese characters and places just feels wrong somehow.
>But I'm not Japanese and writing about Japanese characters and places just feels wrong somehow.You could make your MC be from the same place as you and part of the scam is that she ends up in Japan on her own. All the Japanese characters will be seen through her perspective as a foreigner and will obviously behave differently around her. She's also going to misunderstand things so you can wave away any inaccuracies as just the character making mistakes.
>>3803492>But I'm not Japanese and writing about Japanese characters and places just feels wrong somehow.Anon if you let yourself get scared like this then you'll never accomplish anything. You should never shy away from making what you want to make.Remember! If you run, you gain one. But if you move forwards, you gain two!
happy halloween
>>3803492>Japan since women's wrestling has been treated fairly respectfully there in the pastIt depends. In the best case, the cast will be role models to many young impressionable girls. In the worst, they will be forced to take gravure pictures and retire in their early 20s.
>>3804663Chaotic.
>>3804663did nothing wrong
>>3804758I will post second part tonight
>>3803372>yet still choses to date chicks over themBeing a lesbian isn't something you choose, though. A real lesbian would only ever date girls, whether males exist or not.It really just comes down to personal preference: Some people like having male characters, perhaps as a way to show yuri "winning" over het or because they like the drama, some people don't like any kind of males on principle, and most people probably don't really care as long as it doesn't interfere with the yuri (which, as you said, authors that do include major male characters tend to have difficulties with). But I doubt there is ever any real need for them.
A delinquent girl is sent to stay with her autistic aunt who lives in a small and obscure port town for the summer. They develop a romantic relationship while accidently happening upon a secret supernatural side to the town, which leads them to a paranormal conspiracy that threatens to overtake the town.
>>3798441Almost any job can be in pairs. Used to close up a coffee shop, just me and another employee, and in my office job my team often splits up in pairs to focus on projects.
>>3807514>Used to close up a coffee shop, just me and another employeeDid you fuck her roughly against the counter?
Yuri with beautiful orchestra scores.
Anyone making or planning a game?
>>3810436Programming is hard.
>>3810436I have an idea for an RPG maker game where it will have a burgeoning romance between an underground monster princess and a tribal human girl but I worry it may be too similar to this other idea I have, plus I'm not sure I have a lot of good ideas for gameplay.
>>3810436Yep, see you more than a year from now for a screenshot.>>3810449Wish that was the hardest part.
>>3810457Music is hard too.
>>3810458If you are ok with using free assets music is by far the easiest part, there's lots of good and even great tracks to be had, it just takes patience to go through all the garbage to find them.
>>3810460It's not the same! Also there's free assets for art too so what are you considering the hardest part?
>>3810462I was speaking subjectively, while I'm ok with using free music tracks, I'd never be satisfied with free character assets for instance, so I have to make all of them myself, which is the hardest part for me. Also, my games are going to be 2D isometric and there isn't much quality stuff available in that regard.I'm more confident when it comes to programming since that's been my job for years, but your mileage will vary.
>>3810464Nah, I get that. I have the opposite problem. I can do art stuff but the technical framework is just a sawmp.
A school bus ends up being stranded on a trip while the world is falling apart from a cosmic phenomenon that basically erodes and distorts reality. The survivors from the bus then decide to hold up in the hotel they stopprd to and were about to leave due to lacking much in the way of options. The couple would be a girl and her chaperone, who's actually her older relative she's close with. They have been in a romance before but decided to end it due to the nature of it such a relationship, but tensions still run deep between them. The cosmic phenomenon will transforms the young lady into a monstrous being, capable of terrible power and thus, being better able to defend from the new horrors of the new world at the cost of possibly losing her humanity.
My novel will be set in a Japanese junior high school where a first-year girl misses the first week of school because her family's safari bus drives off a cliff while on holiday and they have to struggle their way make to civilisation. On her first day she sees a beautiful senpai who protects her against an escaped wolf. Once the animal is taken away, our MC asks how she can repay the senpai, who says come and visit the tea ceremony club after school, no obligation to join.MC does this and the senpai is there along with a bratty first-year who takes an instant dislike to MC, seeming jealous of the senpai paying attention to her; a girl with headphones on, focused on some phone game while constantly chugs energy drinks while saying very little; and a spacey pleasantly smiling girl whose wavelength only senpai seems to be able to tune into. After several minutes of conversation, MC asks if they're going to do tea ceremony and senpai giggles and says you'd think that, wouldn't you? Spacey girl says didn't you tell her what our club is about? Senpai giggles again and says mobage girl are you ready? Spacey girl seems concerned and says you don't have to participate if you don't want to and MC goes from nonplussed at this to shocked as (1/2)
I have a WIP personal writing project that's an EXTREMELY horny Symphogear fetish fanfic, but it's really only incidentally yuri towards the latter portion of what I have written so far (though I plan for much more in the parts afterwards). It's mostly turbo-horny /d/ level fetishistic stuff, though there's nothing sexual in it that's not either masturbatory or overtly lesbian, so, maybe that counts as a "personal yuri project"? I wrote it as a birthday present for my friend, and it's 65 pages long (only the first half or so is done so far), but if there's anybody in the thread who happens to be a fan of rather heavy breast/ass expansion, power tripping, and modest apotheosis themes, I'll post it if anyone wants to critique my "breasted boobily"-tier writing.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/754256522770382858/1035713934084292608/Chris_Over_Zenbu_Part_1.pdf
>>3812005I haven't even opened this link but you and your friend need to reconsider your life choices.
>>3812033I have done so and concluded that I will in fact choose to become worse.
>>3810436Progress is embarrassingly slow. Got any encouragment for an amateur's efforts?
>>3812177You can do it anon, I believe in you.
>>3812177People used to spend their whole lives working on their magnum opus. The beauty of being an amateur is that you are not beholden to any deadlines or constraints, and can fully work out your own vision. You shouldn't be discouraged just because the gaming industry is wholly based on mass consumption -- quantity over quality; a hastily made product over something well thought out. As long as the slow progress isn't due to laziness and apathy, that is.
Any ideas for handling-a-shop yuri? The usual suspects are cafe, flower shop, bookshop... I'm thinking uncommon (in writing) stuff like electronics shop, or some weird counterfeit small store kek
>>3813394Merchant and her alchemist girlfriend/eventual wife run a fantasy general store.
>>3813394Maybe have it be an underground, organ harvesting and selling store where one of the girls is a zombie lul
>>3813394For a more light and fluffy kind of yuri, how about a bathhouse/onsen that also offers other services like massages and salons? One can be the business runner and the other is the beautician. Other random ideas:>Bicycle shop and repair>Hobby shop (art supplies and miniatures)>Small scale brewery>Independent publishers>Adult "book" store>Videogame cafe>Front office for the assassin's guild>Blacksmith/Enchanter>Alchemist/Herbalist
>>3813394Alchemy shop focusing on beautification products but in a mundane modern world where the two girlfriends running it must keep the magic discreet/subtle enough to not raise any suspicion. They just want to fill the world with pretty girls and realize that a healthy dose of consensual magical capitalism is the perfect way to do that.They sell stuff like dyes to permanently change your hair or eye color, supplements to slowly make you a little shorter/taller, or little adhesive patches to make your breasts bigger/smaller or give one's backside a little more oomph (some suspension of disbelief required), as well as just highly-effective magical versions of normal products like skin creams and all that. Also may or may not sell magical mints that awaken gay feelings in girls and offer a pack for free with every visit.
>>3813394Funeral supplies
Anyone doing a NaNoWriMo project?
well it's nothing big but I just started writing a Gamo X Yoshi fanfic
>>3791772Update: am learning sugarcube to try and make this a reality because I'm tired of not finding stuff I like
>>3810436I have elaborate concepts, but I always lose motivation after ~5% of the programming is done and start to work on a new concept.
>>3810458Here's a cheatC major - G -major - A minor - F major - da capo ad infinitum95% of all hit songs are written in this way.We are basically hearing the same song every summer, it's basically a mantra at this point.
>>3813394A tavern/tinker shop where heroes meet together for questing and maintain their gears.One gf is a smithy, the other is an alchemist.You could go extra crazy by making them start from the stone ages and singlehandedly bring humanity forth by inventing stuff like guns, powder, cars and fuel.
On a pirate ship the captain and the quartermaster discover that the other one is a girl. Usually a career ending "injury" thanks to a silly superstition, both swear each other to secrecy, as they promise to rat each other out should one of them sing. Constantly keeping an eye on each other they soon will notice features they haven't noticed before and things start to become fluffier when they are around each other.What they do not know is that the entire ship is full of women pretending to be men, trying to outfrat each other.A comedy with some gory battles left in, as other parts of pirate life which will be mercilessly parodied, like the leadership election which will be similar to the student council president elections in various yuri mangas. Should I decide to draw it, the disguises will be paper thin, the figures will be clearly that of girls.Based on the fact that we only know about Read and Bonny because they got caught. How many female pirates wrought havoc, made a fortune and despite it all died an anonymous death?
>>3816439Have you read Monstrous Regiment by Terry Pratchett? If not, you might enjoy it.
little comicsX MM0MT
>>3816445no I haven't, thanks
>>3816664Beautiful.
>>3791454anon, I promise you if you stop caring about concepts like "queer intersectional asexual lesbians" you will have 100x more fun writing about homos.
>>3816357now this is a story
>>3757815I am currently writing a light novel consisting of two books. It's about two private military girls and their story. Unfortunately I can't share much because the story is based on real characters, but in future I might let people read the/contribute to the project, but it will happen after I'm done with my homeserver.
>>3818292Very nice, do we have anything to follow just so we know what to look for once it releases?
Chad fucks betas mom and gets isekaied into wow
>>3813394The last surviving RadioShack in a low-key cyberpunk world. The atmosphere is generally mundane, but just outside of normal.
>>3818506So far nothing other than my matrix lol.@baka999:matrix.orgI also may need a lot of time before I finish the project since its HELLA big. I can't even make proper concept art in less than a month time. I may finish it in 10 years after the army, who knows.
I'm thinking of writing a large-scale organization. The problem is actually making up a company structure and what they would be about, in other words I have nothing but an idea and zero business knowledge. Posting this here if anyone can suggest something.I'm starting with the fun stuff first, like making its insignia and characters for important positions like its president.
>>3819879Decide what the organization does (i.e. their core product or service) and then glance through real life equivalents to see what the structure and internal organization of the company should look like. Is the entire story about the organization as a whole? Or is it just about various characters who work in it? It's not like every programmer or accountant has a complete understanding or even view of the totality of an organization they work in. They just see the parts they're directly involved in.
>>3791454>It is largely about wanting the cast to be patchwork with their gender/sexual identitiesGet off Tumblr and touch an actual pussy please. Real lesbians want to read lesbian stories. We don't want to read postmodern ""queer"" nonsense
Currently finishing up the sequel to pic related, my self-published yuri vampire novel. It's got plenty of lesbian angst, along with Hellsing-tier levels of violence. If the second book does well in terms of readers/sales, I kinda want to make it into a proper series, and maybe start including LN-style illustrations of the characters between chapters.
>>3820225Where can I read/buy?
>>3815251wow I already knew writing was had shit jeez
>>3820225You... pick a really unfortunate combination of visual traits for the shorter girl in that picture.
>>3820231It's on Amazon/Kindle right now. 4chan won't let me link to it, but searching the title should bring it up. Thanks for the interest!>>3820429In what way, nee-chan?
>>3820438In that nearly every aspect (brown skin, short dark hair, dark stud earing, pronounced lower eyelashes, indigo hoodie) evokes one of the most notable western GL characters of the past few years.
>>3820455Oh, that was actually completely intentional lol. I was watching Owl House while I was writing it, and I wanted the MC to look like a combination of Luz and the MC from Vlad Love (a... questionable vampire yuri show that I'm still embarrassingly obsessed with)
>>3820455I'm currently working on a comic with the protagonist who looks like this too, I really think girls like that with short hair are adorable.
>>3821256Fair enough, just figured I'd point it out so you didn't find out after the fact.
>work full time>Only 19 days left for YuriJam Damn it, I need more free time. Nothing makes me feel more alive than yuri so I can't give up.
>>3821895Work part time.
talk about your favorite dynamic so i can pick off of your ideas, onee-sans.
>>3822990Hero x Villain
>>3822990Precocious loli or JK and inexperienced Onee.
>>3822990long-haired refined tsundere bookworm student council president onee-sama x bold affectionate somewhat dorky athletic airhead kouhai
>>3822990Cute princess doing her best to seduce her much taller and beautiful kuudere bodyguard.
>>3822990good ol' stacy x nerd.
>>3822990villain x lieutenant
>>3758872A yuri racing manager / VN, and a yuri soshage (with or without gacha). With the former I have the general idea of the setting and characters, and the gameplay would be a light rip-off of Motorsport Manager and the likes, but stuck on coming up with a plot that wouldn't be Generic Racing Movie #100500. I'm too programmer-minded to come up with interesting stories. With the latter I struggle on deciding with even the general direction - thinking either about a mecha SRPG of sorts (SRW/Akanesasu style), which would probably be very generic but hell yeah robots, or eschewing battles altogether, setting everything in a Secluded Shoujo Mansion, and trying to find a different sort of grind. I really like the concepts from Shoujo Tenrankai where the "combat" is instead a contest of emotions and wit to try and build a desired relationship with other characters, but despite having well-defined mechanics it still relies on the free-form roleplay factor (which is hard to emulate in a simple video game) and it's not something you can use as a repetitive "mission"-style mechanic.Sadly I was born without any kind of creativity. At best I can try and regurgitate things I've seen, and even that only shallowly. So my only "creative" respite is occasionally translating some yuri things for indie creators.
>>3823527>stuck on coming up with a plot that wouldn't be Generic Racing Movie #100500I started typing out a whole wildly elaborate and unrealistic solution for this and then re-read your post and realized you started off saying you already had the setting and characters in mind, which I'll post after. It feels like that's really all race movies are ever about, starting strong or weak, faltering, and then seeking redemption in the big race. Which isn't a terribly realistic thing since there's lots of big races. Maybe pull back and focus plot on overall journey/career instead? I suppose it depends on what the yuri element, setting and characters are like. Or avoid the racer focus entirely and keep the narrative on the management side, about building a team and legacy instead of winning some specific series, winning and losing can be highpoints but it's more about the team growing close and their development/drama in their roles in the group.
>>3823549The original response was:>Motorsport Manager and the likeCan't say I have any idea how something like that plays, but glancing at screenshots: couldn't you just sidestep the "generic racing movie" bit by shifting it over to something akin to racing/race management with regards to general mechanics, but that -isn't- racing? Like instead of playing as the manager of a team(?) for racing, the game takes place in a futuristic or even full-on space opera setting and you lead a cartel whose primary profit comes from smuggling and contraband. So instead of racers progressing through various races you have runners attempting to complete smuggling/theft/salvage jobs, where the "competition" is the authorities and other criminal elements. That gives you plenty of room to tell all sorts of stories but you still have a very similar or even the same gameplay loop (again, only judging this based on steam screenshots) of managing and optimizing vehicles to deal with various aspects of a job type or specific job, watching over jobs as they happen and making strategic micro management calls, managing headquarters and the organization's development and diversification, etc. You could even build it into a more comprehensive thing by dipping more into things like personnel management or shop/economic management for the transported goods.
>>3823549Yeah, I was definitely thinking more towards the team dynamic. More down to earth, underdog in a regional racing (think Super Formula but with some car development and probably in 80s-ish fictional Europe) that probably won't even win races. But it's not like I'm tied down to any setting yet anyway. I've posted it here a couple of times, sadly I haven't made any progress since then, probably need to get some meds to get enough energy beyond basic daily necessities.The main character was supposed to be a young girl from a well-off family who had some limited success in kart/junior series (but couldn't continue since parents were strictly against her racing hobby beyond basic karting) and lucks out on a chance to do a race in a small team in the Formula Whatever. Her long-time friend also comes in as a mechanic (probably the "default" but not the only possible love interest). The other driver is an older stoic former top racer who's now past her racing prime. The team itself used to be a slightly bigger and more respected operation, but the owner passed away and the daughter of the owner is trying to keep together whatever remains, with the goal being to financially survive as a team (with sponsors being more important than the share of prize money). There's also tension with the former driver, whose last-minute switch to another team gave MC that seat. MC did decently enough on her first outing, but this was always supposed to be an emergency replacement, so the first arc is about her trying to find a way back into the seat (mostly by finding money to fund it, as the team frankly needs a pay driver, with the other driver responsible for being quick). The idea was to mostly just borrow things that actually happen in real life racing and weave a coherent story out of it (the zero creativity approach), but even that's hard.>>3823556This already sounds more interesting than anything I could have come up with. I'll keep this possibility in mind, thank you.
Writer of this >>3820225 here. Now that the sequel is more-or-less done, I've been starting to think about my next project.Right now I want to do a HUGE fantasy epic where a genki peasant girl who dreams of becoming a proper knight (fem!Knights are fairly common, maybe even the norm, in this setting) ends up as the squire to this super-serious, slightly edgy up-and-coming lady knight with a super grimdark backstory (roving undead killed her family or something like that). But as competent as lady knight is, she's wracked by trauma and can barely stand the sight of violence, so she's been swallowing all this PTSD and drowning her fears in booze for years.I think there's some life to this dynamic? Genki MC-chan has this shonen protagonist energy and loves fighting, Knight-chan is a genius at swordplay but has to choke down a panic attack every time they see blood. And they're just kinda thrown together as their home kingdom continues its endless war against this necromancer empire that's sending endless hordes of undead over their borders.I'm still in the early planning stages, but I'd want the main couple to constantly clash against a playful, seductive masked sorceress in the employ of this Necro-Empire. She'd be a kind of recurring villain, but also maybe a romantic rival, or just a wrench in the gears of the budding relationship between the two mains? I don't really know. I'm sure all this just reads like nonsense ramblings right now, but I'm hoping to get to the planning/outlining stages here in the next week or two. If any helpful nee-samas have feedback, advice, recommended reading, or even just things you'd want to see in a story like this, it'd help a lot.
Writing what's supposed to be a down-to-earth story about a downtrodden peasant girl emotionally growing and healing thanks to a found family and the eventually-romantic love of the other girl in the band of adventurers but am constantly being tempted to introduce gay similar-age girls of the various fantasy races they'll meet on the adventure. Would one flirty cute harpy girl remove so much integrity from the story? One little pair of werewolf twins who show affection for new friends by face-licking? A single solitary clumsy tsundere orc princess?
>>3824870It would work best if those girls are supposed to be temptions for the main character to overcome.
>>3820438So I bought it and read it, wasn't bad. Unironically inspiring to me.
>>3823670Motorsports and Yuri seem like a very difficult combination to do, and I say this as a fan of both (and frequent sim racer) Motorsports stories are known to be pretty bad even at the best of times. Adding yuri makes it even harder. The very adversarial nature of motorsports (it's everyone vs everyone) makes this far more of a leap to manage than the typical sports romance you might do.I have exactly one plot idea. Slightly jaded 30-something woman who races as the pro in pro-am teams in various European series. New year. They expect their team mate to be some 50-year old doctor or dentist like the AMs usually are, but instead gets paired with a young woman who is more famous on the sim side than the reality, there from a mix of sponsorship money, their own rich family, and a bit of social media clout. A total airhead pay driver who is every bit as slow as she is astonishingly attractive. Initial friction gives way to an uneasy alliance as the amateur grows in pace with every weekend, pulling absolutely crazy hours in the garage working with the team in a way that surprises the jaded pro. Amidst a growing crush, by the end of the year, the younger driver has improved so much that their pace on the track is more like a pro-pro pairing, the amateur outqualifies her own codriver, and they go on to clutch a win in the final race.
>>3828031I think the spider loli is going to truss her up (while blushing and giggling about how sticky she's making her) and encourage my MC to emotionally cheat on her fellow-human gf with her. I think this would make a good chapter in my book.
How do you guys think AI-generated art would look in a VN? I'm planning on making just a short one just to test my feet, before making a larger scale project. Based on a novel that I'm currently writing.
Is RPG maker hard to learn for a complete beginner and a brainlet? I have an idea for a very short game but idk shit.
>>3828929Lack of consistency between expressions would be the biggest problem.
>>3828933Blaaaah. You're right. Now that I think about it more clearly, there is a few other issues with using AI-generated art. Thanks anon. Say, for a VN, how much range of expressions would suffice? For both a short and long VN?
>>3828935NTA but For characters sprites assets you could use free characters generator such ashttps://emily2.itch.io/sutemoOr a paid one likehttps://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ297631.htmlOr you can use this software, it's a manga editor program but you can export as psd, so in theory you could also make vn cgs with this program. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1020820/KumaKuma_Manga_Editor/#:~:text=KumaKuma%20Manga%20Editor%20is%20a,any%20basic%20knowledge%20of%20art.If you're looking a non weeb art styles then I don't know, sorry.
>>3828935Given that one of the major differences between a VN and just a novel is the character art, you should definitely have quite a few. Preferably with pose and outfit variants too.
Oh, and the other extremely lazy way to make art for visual novels is Koikatsu. But... it will be very obvious you used Koikatsu, just like how 99% of RPG maker games look like RPG maker games.
>>3820225>>3820438Just bought the paperback, should get it in a couple of days.
>>3828965>>3828966Thanks for the advice. I'll keep all of this in mind, but I should really finish up writing the novel before I look at converting it into an VN.
>>3820455Wait until you get to the witch girl who works magic with spell-papers.
>>3829074Thanks! I hope it's a fun read.>>3828078Glad to hear it! Hope it gets the yuri-writing juices flowing in you, nee-chan>>3831129Lol, looking back, it's kinda insane just how much Owl House influence there was. For anyone who was interested in the first book, the second one just dropped today. There's a lot more relationship stuff ||and angst|| in this one, along with more worldbuilding and anime fight scenes. And there's also a lot of sister drama, if that's your thing? It ended up being a lot more complex than I expected it to be, but I think it's also better than the first one in almost every way.
>>3831619>||spoilers||lol
I have this fantasy setting story about a young thief meeting an ancient vampire that was turned around the same age as the thief is now. But I hit a snag. I want the first time she feeds off her to be really intimate and significant for the both of them. Trouble is, I have no idea how I'm supposed to make the act of essentially being predated upon something intimate that happens between two people who really trust eachother deeply. Maybe I need to lean into BDSM a little here, in the sense that the sub trusts the domme to not actually hurt her beyond what she can take. But I'm not that familiar with those kinds of relationships either. It's a pretty big roadblock.
>>3831712You've read other vampire stuff before? The neck is incredible intimate to begin with, both being sensitive and little touched, but also where predators bite for a clean kill. Letting anyone with anything sharp near your neck it the utmost trust. Think of a barber shaving a man's beard. That man trusts his barber more than most people in his life. This stuff has been figured out for centuries. As far a yuri goes, inner thigh is also popular for similar reasons. It's not a place anyone touches casually, it's very close to the goods, teasingly so in fact, and it also hosts one of the largest arteries in your body. It's already an intimate act. It's foreplay with a little pinch at the climax, which is what vampires have ALWAYS been, from Carmilla to Dracula.Just put on your sexy cap and write some steamy foreplay. Maybe vampire-sama hugs ptey-chan from behind, moves aside her hair to kiss the nape of her neck. Her other hand wanders to draw a finger up between her chest while her head cranes around her shoulder, she kissed at prey-chans collar bone and gives a teasing nip which draws no blood but makes her gasp. Etc, leading in to sweeping prey-chan back into vampire-chans arms and going fang-deep in that delicious neck.
>>3831749Vampire hands typed this post
>>3831752No seriously, vampire erotica is really easy. I can stream of conscious this stuff in my head. >after getting her good and ready, vampire-chan places a hand over prey-chans chest, feeling her pounding heart making her delicious blood a tempest on her body, and spots the heavy flush to her cheeks, a sign of the red nectar brought close to the surface, and flush with her vitality. Vampite-chan almost salivate at the sight, but remains restrained for her lovers sake. Vampire-chan takes the hand of prey-chan, intertwining their fingers, and pulls her back into her arms, giving her a heated, passionate glance of only a short moment but seems to linger into eternity, a wordless assent passed between them from the aroused desire in prey-chans eyes back to the voracious and needy gaze of the vampire, before diving back into her neck. The feel of her cold undead lips against her warm skin causes prey-chan to shiver just slightly. Vampire-chan gives a soft, wide kiss to her ticklish neck, but her lips expand outward first into a damp tasting flick of her tongue against the flesh, then a subtle drag of her sharp fans against the perfect skin, and finally the sharp pinch and sudden plunge, her skin pierced and her lips sealed around the sundered kiss wound. Prey-chan startles and gasps breathily at how fast she was suddenly taken, with the long foreplay leading to this climax, and her hand squeezes into that which was captured by Vampire- Chan, who herself squeezes back to comfort her, as if to say"good girl, you're doing so well", their fingers intertwine. I dunno, this stuff kind of comes naturally. I'm not a vampire personally but I am lying in a bed trying to ignore the sun rising through firmly shut blinds and wishing I had a prey-chan to bite.
>>3831749I will also add to this comment here something I just thought of further. I said neck and thigh are both excellent, but personally, I find one or the other would work best based on their relationship dynamics. The thigh is natural for a more "subservient" vampire. She has to kneel before the prey, put herself lower, etc. The dominant vampire, which I relate to more I guess, is the one who goes for the neck. She wants to capture prey-chan and take her entire being, lovingly of course. Not to say that's a hard and fast rule, just my thinking. Vampires are literally just Victorian era schlick fuel. If she would be giving cunnilingus in traditional erotica have her go for the thigh of course. If she would be receiving it, go for the neck. It may be romantic to have vampire-chan take a cheeky duck from the underside of the wrist, like a knight kissing the lady's hand. There are lots of veins close to the skin there.
>>3831712In the World of Darkness lore (one of my biggest vampire-writing inspirations), the vampire's bite is supposed to be insanely pleasurable, on the level of an intense orgasm or really hard drugs. The victim goes into a state of total euphoria, to the point that she can get addicted to being fed on, if she survives the encounter.Getting that kind of pleasure across in writing is insanely hard though. My personal recommendation would be to focus on and eroticize the other sensations of the act: where is Vampire-chan carressing Prey-chan's body? What do the sheets (or the cold night air, or whatever) feel like against her skin? Is her neck wet where Vampire-chan's kissed her? Also you have the romantic author's go-to descriptions of goosebumps, feeling someone else's breath on your skin, etc.Also that predator/prey angle is always insanely hot. If you can show by Vampire-chan's body language (trembling, breathing heavily, groping a little too tightly) that she's really, *really* into Prey-chan and wants to genuinely just devour her, it's gonna add that kind of spice that the average lesbian vampire-erotica enthusiast really craves.
