Previous thread at >>3705499RAWSvolumes 2-7 - http://sakurafile.com/dnlegmp9ger5/volume 8-12 - http://sakurafile.com/99riz1cdtjhd/Folder containing chapters 62-139:https://www.mediafire.com/folder/zqmy own mixed bag of RAW and translatedhttps://mega.nz/#F!BOxGnYhQ!mT8TH7XTranslated chapters uploaded to https://dynasty-scans.com/series/viand https://mangadex.org/title/d4d43c50 Mangadex is a bit behind atm10th Anniversary ASMR video by Kishi [YouTube] 「オトメの帝国」建国10周年記念特別企画「オトメの制作」 (embed)Kishi's Twitter: https://twitter.com/kishitorajiroKishi's AlterEgo Twitter: https://twitter.com/k_toraziroTwitter for Otome https://twitter.com/jplus_otomeKishi's Pixiv: http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=(Please note that Kishi doesn't exclusively do Yuri, so you may not necessarily like what he posts)Read originals online at https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/If you want to support the creator, you can get tanks from Honto.jp, Amazon.co.jp and YesAsia.com. He also appears to need a kidney, if you have any to spare. For the Japanese sites (and fanart searches), search using オトメの帝国.Please do not post about the scanlations using the Japanese Tag (オトメの帝国) on any social media platforms. Kishi is pretty active on twitter (and possibly others) and everyone would like to avoid problems. (Too Late, He Found Us)How many women are in prison because of loli Kaoru?Latest Typeset ChaptersChapter 250: Dream-like confession: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch250Chapter 251: Going home linked: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch251
Mask in Adidas set by Kishi:https://twitter.com/kishitorajiro/status/1555576689286995968
>>3758863Damn hope he finds a donor for a new kidney soon.
>>3758863Damn, I only have an American kidney.
>>3758931>>3758952Did he tweet something concerning his health? Because I thought he was doing mostly fine now.
>>3758952OP said he needed a new kidney so I'm not sure.
>>3759267It's been in the OP for ages.Do you suppose Mask is Kishi's favorite, given all the extra art he makes of her?
>>3759271It feels like she and Kaoru have a special place in his heart, but I might just be projecting.
>>3759324We really don't wanna pollute the thread with shit like this.
>>3759209He needs a new kidney just generally, but most people who need a new kidney are more or less fine as long as they keep up with regular dialysis.
>>3759324Mask is a gem gtfo
>>3758863Wait, Kishi draws lolis?
>>3759847It's fan art by Hiwonoafu, made for /u/'s drawthread: >>3755482https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/100131481
>>3759271I think it helps that Mask is probably the most /fa/ girl in the manga. She's a pretty logical choice when you want to draw someone in a different outfit
>>3759271He has needed a kidney for ages
>>3758865
New chapter: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch252I'm starting to think YMM might be a bad girl.
>>3760575Damn, Yumimi has trained her pet well!
>>3760575Cute.
Is YMM a power bottom?
>>3760629Power bottoms are still receivers. They just do so in a dominating manner instead of submissively.
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/3270375685411796013Pits
>>3760705Blessed
>>3760705Someone has an underarm fetish
This is lowkey one of the sexiest scenes in the manga. They clearly have an understanding after their last chapter and are more comfortable getting touchy with each other, but aren't dating yet. Such a sweet place.
>>3760577>>3760738Love stacy YMM
Next episode coming up. Not sure if he tweeted about it, if he did he must have deleted it.https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100359640
>>3760080I'm so glad Chie got rid of that terrible hairstyle.
This thread now belongs to the debate club.
>>3760853Do they do actual debate competitions, or is that not a thing there?
>>3760853
>>3760705uploaded, sorry im late
>>3760898Japan seems to have plenty of English debate tournaments, so I'd imagine there have to be some in Japanese too.I kinda wish we'd have seen just what Nononon told the student council about their club activities. As far as we've seen, they just use the club room for hanging out and flirting.
>>3760853I've been re-reading some older chapters and found out that the debate club is my favorite. I especially hope Kishi will draw more Mariri x Mayuyu, they have great chemistry.
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>>3761450long awaited /n/ /u/ collab, when will kishi give us train lesbians instead of just lesbians on trains
>>3761450my bad, jpg autism
>>3761505>it's fine because it's just me!any excuse to touch her more>so soft...worship
>>3761427I re-read the debate club chapters too and found something unrelated but interesting. So, chapter 251:
>>3761572Chapter 64:
>>3761573Nice.
>>3761511When will we see them going home and fuck? It's been months.
>>3762364A girl once said "they are still going at it on the train".
>>3762365Is that the popular ghost story since the recent train wreck?
>>3761572>>3761573I mean, yeah. That was the point.
>>3762386So it's not a joke and Japan actually thinks handholding is super lewd? Were Haruka and Kanae's last two appearances so oblique because they aren't maidens anymore?
New chapter:https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch253
>>3762411
>>3762604another toe-curling
>>3762608
>>3762608Did... did Kaoru teach her baby sister to give toe-curling massages?
>>3762704Wait until the chapter where she talks about how she learned to kiss.
Next chapter is out on Pixiv and PixivFANBOX.https://twitter.com/kishitorajiro/status/1558468581955760131
>>3762850Already deleted?Anyone save it?
>>3763093Here are the links to his Pixiv and PixivFANBOX.https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/14974201https://www.fanbox.cc/@kishitorajiro
>>3762609
>>3760738Part of it is definitely that they seem to have a new understanding/closeness, but I think the really great part of this too is the low-key kind of bad-girl / good girl thing going on. YMM looks like some sort of player, almost, and NNN is the chaste-but-getting-horny girl being 'targeted'.
>>3760738>comfortable getting touchy with each other, but aren't dating yet. Such a sweet place.Well, sometimes.
I don't think I've ever seen the pic on this t-shirt, anyone have it?
After the letter I hope the sexy PE teacher and the horny student get together and enjoy each other soon.
>>3763664I don't remember that pic off hand. But I don't have the best memory.
>>3763692The latest chapter of that story has the student rubbing the teacher during class. Kisshi has a part two for this coming out soon not sure when though.
Just the read the whole series in a couple days and I'm in awe of Kishi's powers that Ayano and Miyoshi are still just "friends"
>>3763949Poor Ayano.
>>3764121She should just confess herself.
Does anyone know what the PE teacher's letter said?
New pages were added to the last chapter on PixivFANBOX.
>>3763660Which chapter is this?
>>3766831153, the one after Mio caught Shizuka kissing Kaoru.
An update on Kishi's FANBOX says he plans to return to one of his earlier spicy yuri image sets, Ui and Yaya pretty soon.
Ai love Ai
Reposting because the tweets appear in a weird order for some reason. I'll just do them based on the numbers Kishi uses:https://twitter.com/kishitorajiro/status/1561958488837804035 (embed)[Questionnaire Announcement] In the upcoming Otome mini episode 37, I'm thinking of drawing "Top 3 Otome characters that look good in battle scenes". Therefore, the top 3 will be decided by a questionnaire to everyone. From 15:00 to 21:00 today, it's a waste organization vote. Thank you!The options:1:MiyoshiAyanoAiChie2:MichiruAiriHonokaElisha3:KanaeHarukaYuuMari4:MahiruMahiroNaoOnibi5:MaskMioShizukaMidoriri6:HibikiNonononYumimiMayuyu7:MaririKaoruRemember to vote for Nononon.
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/3270375685447916109Just normal best friend things
>>3768732Love the last page.
>>3768732We want from this to using that thing for children to change clothes.>Ayano's future boyfriendAnd we're still here after 257 chapters.
>>3768858I know people didn't care much for the earlier lewd VE chapters, but removing the lewd really regressed some relationships
>>3768883I don't think anyone really minds the lewdness as such, just that the characterization and dialogue used to be so porn-y. If there was an explicit but in-character Kanae/Haruka sex scene two weeks from now, /u/ would be ecstatic.
>>3768883I think anyone who had an issue with the lewds probably didn't stick through the manga to this point anyway.I'm quite thankful for the early chapters personally. It's really funny that Ai and Chie's sweet relationship was born from weird nipple bullying and that Onoda was a salty pervert
>>3768732>One couple does something flirty>Other nearby couples see and start getting ideasLove this, just like the hand feeding and lap pillow chapters. You just can't get that from other yuri manga
>>3769018Chie flashing Ai was nice.
>>3769018>Onoda was a salty pervertI guess she's still a bit of a pervert (or highly interested) if she and Haruka really started having sex so soon after becoming a couple.
>>3768732uploaded, in case of chads
>>3768549The results of the poll were1. Ai2. Onibi3. MaskThey will appear in battle art in the next mini.I'm a bit salty about Onibi being placed in such an noncompetitive bracket. He should have at least made the Mahis into a fighting duo.
>>3770239Winter Mahis + Yuu.
Ayano's the kind of girl who will, in 40 years' time, be picking flowers for her party and suddenly remember this as the most exquisite moment of her life.
>>3770654
>>3768532off wh-ai-te
>>3771787Such pudge :qSocks coloring is offputting. I like that thing he does with the skirts and bows, but it doesn’t work there
>>3763664
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/3270375685470814513New Mini
>>3772633cute couple
>>3772492Thanks
New student/teacher post on his PixivFANBOX. Just one image of teacher eating out her student in a bathroom stall while another girl watches them. Also an update he plans to release more of these two in September as well as more of his old Ui and Yaya story.
>>3773321Need to see this.
>>3773321Did Kishi update the fan subscription tiers to have different content? I can't read it.
>>3773457>>3773584Yeah he has multiple tiers to see the content. 500 and 1000 yen lets you see everything. anything below that is sporadic content you can see.
It's happening holy shit
>>3776899Very nice. My expectations are a bit tempered due to Jump+ restrictions, though. Maybe he'll put that Fanbox to use and add a spicier version there
>>3776904Were you really expecting an actual depiction of explicit sex? Anon please
>>3776899FINALLY
>>3776919Let me dream
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316112896821527889
>>3776899FUCKING FINALLY
Been reading up on Hisashi Eiguchi and it feels almost like latter stage Virgin's Empire has a direct line of influence from him.
>>3776899Calling it now, Shizuka will moan out Kaoru's name.
>>3777011Mio*
>>3776961Why's that?
>>3776899Is that Hedorah on the bed watching?
>>3776899Is it finally time to rename the manga?
Mini 35,36 and CH258 finally uploaded
>>3776931What an adorable chapter.>>3776899Holy shit I am ready
So she finally abducted her.
>>3776931Man, Midori can be so much better with a different hairdo.
>>3777089They should, but it would be cruel to the Empress of Virgins (Ayano).
>>3776931Knowing the character, I hope that phone part isn't anything non-yuri.
New post on Pixiv and PixivFANBOX. New chapter of student/teacher this weekend, with an image of a new girl with glasses being added.
New student/teacher story is out. The two are joined in a bathroom stall who explains she saw them having fun during class and got turned on and masturbated watching them.
>>3781248The girl with the glasses lifting her skirt?
>>3781270Yeah, her name is Nagisa. She seems really intent on joining in on the fun.
>>3781302When I first saw the image of her I thought of Gyaru-chan. Sexy gym teacher is going to be getting quite a workout from the girls.
Go get it Mio
>>3781532>>3781533Not gonna lie, I can see this >>3777011 really happening.
>>3781307Makes wonder and hope we get some Tae-chan level spreading of the yuri virus in this story. Hopefully we get the next chapter soon.
>>3781543I don't want to monkey-paw things, but I do wish we'd get more VE fanart/fics in general
>>3781887It'll happen when it gets an anime, don't worry.
>>3781902>whenNee-san, I...
>>3781902I want to shoot a live action
New image posted of the student/teacher story. It's a single image of the new girl, Nagisa, lifting her skirt and showing everything.
>>3783759She is very lewd.
>>3783759On his Twitter or his pixivfanbox?I wish someone would upload his fanbox stuff to e-hentai. I know Kishi deserves support, and I already buy the manga volumes, so I wouldn't feel too bad if his Fanbox was ripped
>>3784133On his fanbox only sadly.
Only a single page today?
>>3785755Whats she say whats she say?
>>3785784Otome is off this week
>>3785755Mio kicked her down the stairs?
>>3785755She was delivering the newest chapter, and I mugged her and took it for myself
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316112896884974575Lewd mini
>>3790785Miyoshi is a lesbian!
>>3790785Jesus christ
>>3790785Wait what
>>3790811If I'm reading all of that right, I think Ayano is the lesbian here, imagining all of that.
>>3790785I spent a couple of minutes on the teacher's lines I thought I was having a stroke, goddammit Kishi, you got me again.Is there anything scientific about this anyway? How should the two things be correlated?Also, if they're not going to release the mini chapters in a (printed) volume and I won't have all this art in my collection I'll be so fucking mad.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch254Praise Chads!
>>3792739Cute!
>>3792739Ellen sensei!
>>3792739Soon
>>3793110The long game.
Kishi twitter update, solo so not posting here but very lewd.
>>3796006Still technically a Mini if anyone wants to grab it for archival purposeshttps://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316112896905581531
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316112896905581531mini 39. Its uploaded. just noticed its been a month since the last non-mini chapter...
>>3796082sorry about that, didnt see you there
>>3796082Airi is a lucky gal
>>3796082>>3796087>soloThis should've been a chapter with Airi behind the door and she taking a photo of her.
>>3796502>Airi>with only a glass door between her and a naked Michiru
Needs moar gym teacher.
AiChie chapter inbound...
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316112896925763503Nice
>>3800812Too lewd
>>3800812I'm honestly impressed by what Kishi can come up with. Really a great author and artist.
>>3800839I don't get it
>>3800812very niceuploaded to mega
>>3800843>Right: Sharing an umbrella to stay out of the rain. Nothing to see here.>Left: Illuminated by a passing car.
>>3801207Oh yeah I noticed the detail a bit later, sorry I'm slow.
>>3800812Mahis a cute.
>>3800812Mari aggressive.
Kishi has some new story coming out on his Pixiv. Not sure if it will be yuri though. Looks like it's something new.
>>3803156Oh, I'd like to sub to his Fanbox but I guess I'll just wait now to see if this new story is still gay.
>>3803156Today's story didn't have any /u/, no.
>>3803300Sadly we still have to wait for updates to the student teacher story and the Ui and Yaya story.
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316112896945814228Unusual combo mini
>>3805765What is going on with those two?
They both look mahi sized in that mini.
New yuri images posted on his Pixiv and Twitter. A girl puts her hand up her friend's skirt while they are on stairs and feels up her thigh and touches her through her panties.
>>3806486Nice. Thanks. I don't check media often so getting updates like this helps.
>>3805765how long do we give them before they fuck, sisters?
>>3806551Happy to help.
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316190246906981176
>>3810061For a moment I thought she was asking to use those 15 minutes for sex but it turned out wholesome. I wonder if they already did it though.
>>3810061Uploaded, along with mini 40cute chapter
New Story on his Fanbox. A new transfer student gets a very warm welcome from three girls at her new school.
>>3810185The censored version is on Pixiv.
>>3810194Haha get pranked new kid
>>3810185>>3810194>warm welcomeHer ass must be freezing off.
>>3810194That hand holding/finger locking is seriously lewd.
>>3810215There’s something about interlocking-finger-handholding in really porny shit that just makes it hit different for me. That really prolific watamote/AnR is an absolute god for it too.
shizumio sex chapter when?
>>3810294November 9th
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch255What a bizarre chapter.
>>3810061>https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316190246906981176why are these two never the ones getting naked
>>3812479Lord Onibi is by far the craziest Maiden.
>>3812479We're not here to fuck spiders.
>>3810294You know if they got further than kissing it before Shizuka moans "Kaoru" we'd have seen drafts of the panels by now.
Nightmare Minihttps://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316190246926297534
>>3814356Poor Ayano.
New post on his Pixiv and Fanbox. Looks like two girls are having an intense hug, but it turns out they are actually rubbing there bare boobs together.
>>3814356Where have I already read this?Also what's with the censored words?
Chads are back!https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch256
Kishi finally updated one of his older yuri image sets. A continuation of the girls wearing face masks as they learn to use a toy together.
>>3815559Nice. Love that height gap
>>3815570Gives me hope some of the other image sets will get updated too.
>>3815242I feel like Mayuyu's way too lame for Mariri.
>>3815242Get her!
We are blessed, unlike Ayano.https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch257
>>3817915Miyoshi is fucking brutal. She should just show some mercy and go full "Girl A" on Ayano.
What the hell is wrong with Miyoshi?
>>3816080>>3818614Mariri will fuck Ayano.
Being Ayano is suffering.
>>3818614She wants to tease Ayano to the point where Ayano actually confesses to her....But also Miyoshi is too dumb to know that's what she's doing.
welp caught up to all 257 chaps as of now... wish there was more Haruka x Kanae, but anyway, is there anything other yuri mangas that come close to this?
>>3818620Do they even know each other?
>>3819018>is there anything other yuri mangas that come close to this?Nope
>>3819018>come closeWhat do you mean?
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316190246945154404
>>3819108I can't believe they actually did it. Bravo, Kishi.Will Kaoru call Mio her hole sister, though?
>>3819108Beautiful. I need Kishi to make a new R-18 yuri series. Ideally a romance.
>>3819108Would be better if it were literally any other pairing in the series.
>>3819108I don't get it. How did Mio get naked too? I think something was skipped there.
>>3819168Don't read this anon they had s*x
>>3819108Wow.
How was it for you Mio?
>>3819108>first couple to have on-screen sex>it's literally the worst ship
>>3819108Love the cuts to Kaoru and the other girls.
>>3819108Wonderful.
>>3819108Am I the only one getting a bit tired of one page = one panel? And a lot of time is just a face close up repeated for more pages with barely any difference. I understand that artistically it's very good, but while reading a manga is a bit annoying when it repeats every chapter.And the sex itself being completely skipped is also a negative point for me. Who topped who? Did they switch too? It didn't give any info at all. I hope there will be some flashbacks kind of like KyoKano in their next chapter... 10 months from now.
>>3819108Shizuka looks incredibly hot here.
>>3819108Well, someone lost their V-cards. So, technically speaking they aren't allowed to be in the series anymore, no?
>>3819108Glad it finally happened. I can't help but wonder how this would have played out if it wasn't on jump plus, though
>>3819259Stylistically a splash page is used for emphasis, detail, and well, t-shirts.The lack of graphic sex is tasteful. I follow this manga for the romance. I would like a little more nudity on occasion, but that's not why I'm reading it. Not a negative for me at all. >>3819214I know! Intriguing.
>>3819108>https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316190246945154404Bueno, bueno, BUENO
I don't remember this much lewdness before except for the early lewds or maybe ai groping chie.
>>3819295Official virgin tier list>Definite non-virgin tierKaoru, Shizuka, Mio, Ed, Ian>Holding hands in a non-virgin way tierHaruka, Kanae>Depends on how you define it tierMari, Yuu>Wouldn't surprise me tierMahiMahi, Elisha, Mariri>Regular virgin tierNao, Hibiki, Midori, Yumimi, MIyoshi, Michiru, Mayuyu, Ai, Airi, Honoka, Chie, Onibi, Mask, Nononon>Empress of Virgins tierAyano
>>3819460>Kanae warming upgirls isn't bitches making dick jokes anymore>Kanae find a girlfriendeveryone is gay>>Holding hands in a non-virgin way tiersex
>>3819488I read your post slowly, fast, with imaginary commas, without them, and every time I tried to decipher what you were were trying to say, I felt akin to a simple human, being devoured by an eldritch language.Thanks for that experience my brain is mush now.>still checked
>>3819323>emphasisYes, and Kishi is very good at it, but when it's used for most of the chapter and for more chapters it becomes... I don't know how to say it, banal? It should be saved only for the most emotional moments.As for the sex, I'm not saying I want to see it, but unlike het, lesbian sex can be a shitton of things and this chapter doesn't let you know what they actually did. For example YagaKimi also didn't show anything but one panel was enough to make everyone understand that Yuu fingered Touko.
I forgot Mio/Shizuka was one of the three pairings that appeared in chapter one, alongside Ai/Chie and Miyoshi/Ayano. They've come a long way.>>3819497Anon means that the better/gayer Kanae is doing, the gayer the other girls become too.
>>3819108Yes, fuck her Mio, FUCK HER.
>>3819460lol ayano
>>3819108Holy fuck that was worth waiting for. I don’t want to be hyperbolic, but I think Kishi might be probably the best mangaka we currently have in the genre.
>>3819108Holy shit shizuka is blind as hell.That smile she gave Kaoru woah, she’s finally over her!! took her longSince it happened between shizuka and mio. Now Chie and Ai next
>>3819613I felt like there was so much to unpack in that Kaoru sequence. I’ll have to reread their previous chapters as soon as I get a chance.
How should Kaoru respond?1) Seduce Mio2) Seduce Nononon3) Take away Shizuka's glasses, seduce her pretending to be Mio
>>3819653Kaoru needs to go back to Hibiki and finish what she started
will the manga be renamed now?
>>3819653>How should Kaoru respond?Have sex with Honoka
IT TOOK SEVEN YEARS BUT IT FINALLY HAPPENED. Someone got laid
>>3812748anon, i...
>>3819760This manga's been running since 2010, or did someone get laid in 2015 I forgot about?
I honestly started crying. This part just hit me so hard I can't explain it. I think I suddenly realized that I started reading this when I was 15 and seeing these two for the first time to now, twelve years later did something personal. Sorry for the blogposting. It was a response I've never had before.
>>3819163Cry more.
>>3819785Happy to have been wrong.
>>3819653Kaoru has not seriously given any shit about pursuing Shizuka for more than 150 chapters. It's like people have just completely forgotten her arc. Kaoru is the one who told Shizuka to stop fucking around and go seriously pay attention to Mio on TWO separate occasions.
>>3819961I was just kidding, but look at Kaoru's expressions here. She isn't exactly happy about her clingy ex finally moving on. I don't think she's going to do anything or was planning to seduce her if this Mask thing was a wash, but a part of her probably liked that Shizuka couldn't get over her.
>>3819980>but a part of her probably liked that Shizuka couldn't get over her.I seriously doubt it. Kaoru's entire character is about being entirely straightforward and honest to a fault about what she is feeling and wants. The time where Mio caught them kissing, Kaoru was basically telling Shizuka to fuck off because she was trying to read a book for Mayoi and she looked genuinely not pleased about being kissed. Pic related is the last time they even spoke.She's surprised by the haircut, then surprised by Shizuka's at-peace smile (and also her ditching class),and then goes about her day, noting that she never ended up coming to class. I really doubt the intent here was "she still lingering attachments", we've seen what Kaoru is like when something actually bothers her: entirely self destructive. She will stop eating completely, or stand perfectly still for hours until she faints, or (potentially intentionally) cuts herself, because again, she's wholly transparent.What this scene was, was several callbacks showing that Shizuka has moved on. The train scene is a reference to 218, when Shizuka first cut her hair, and she was shown expectantly hoping for a reaction, with it being unclear who she wanted that reaction from--the doors to the train open and she's startled, but neither one is there. This time Kaoru was there and surprised, but Shizuka doesn't care anymore, she's firmly moved on. The classroom scene is a callback to 132, where Kaoru was 'heartbroken' by Mayoi, and Shizuka noticed that her desk was empty (because she'd been waylaid by love), just like this time Kaoru noticed Shizuka's desk was empty (because she was also busy with love).
>>3819108Mio is such a champion Kohai. Imagine pic related level of decorum when denuding the sexiest girl in the series.>>3819698Otome no Slaykoku
>>3819831I actually capped the page on the left and then couldn’t be bothered posting it, but it punched me directly in the heart. It manages to express more about Shizuka’s emotions and feelings towards Mio in one image than I thought was possible. I was grinning like an idiot and tearing up at the same time.
>>3819994The one thing I immediately noticed though is that she apparently even divested her of her ankle wrap which I’m not sure if it was an oversight by Kishi, a conscious decision in service to the aesthetic or if silly teenagers just throwing caution to the wind. Fuck ankle sprains
>>3820092>immediately noticedHaha based footfreak, I've gone through this 50 times and didn't notice once.
>>3820092They are both poets. They're hardly going to have their first time with an ankle wrap ruining the aesthetic.>>3819987>She's surprised by the haircut, then surprised by Shizuka's at-peace smile (and also her ditching class),and then goes about her dayNah. When she first sees Shizuka, she's a little surprised by how Shizuka looks, but she still looks sort of happy. Her eyes go wide and her pupils become needles only when she sees Shizuka's smile. Then the doors slam on her. To really drive the point home, the scene then shifts to her in in the classroom only to go right back to showing her alone by the tracks as the train drives Mio and Shizuka off to have sex. As you and many other Anons have suggested, this chapters works in a heightened, poetic register. If the only feeling Kaoru expressed here was surprise at Shizuka's new hairstyle and ditching school, she wouldn't have been there.>I really doubt the intent here was "she still lingering attachments"It probably isn't even really that. She didn't really want Shizuka anymore, but she wanted to be someone Shizuka couldn't get over. The two of them had an unhealthy relationship that, along with the self-harm, included Kaoru sexually assaulting Shizuka multiple times when it looked like she was moving on, after they'd stopped dating years ago. Feelings like that don't go away easily.
>>3819089hmn i guess in terms of romance, characters, and funtimes? guess Virgins' Empire kinda cheats by being multiple character's stories but still this shit changed me on a chemical level
>>3820104I’m just weirdly observant about stuff like that I guess lol. It’s been such a specific aspect of her character design since the accident that I immediately noticed its absence. Probably helped I was reading on a decently sized tablet as well, I’ve noticed I pick up on a lot more stuff in the art of everything I read since I made the switch. Or maybe this is my footfag epiphany moment?
>>3820092https://twitter.com/kishitorajiro/status/1590132259520393217
>>3820230The footfag all along was Kishi! They really are very well drawn feet. It seems to be the anatomical aspect artists struggle with the most.
>>3820164Have you ever read Kishi's Maka Maka? Definitely don't even think about it if you're a purityfag (it's about two promiscuous bi women slowly realizing they could be far more than just FWBs), but it's very good. Beautiful full color art, way lewder than VE, flawed but likable characters and a shamelessly romantic heart underneath it all.
I'm really not sure how to interpret Kaoru's reaction in this chapter. I think >>3820133 has a point here. That's the only way her expression at the station and in class would make sense. She still cares about Shizuka... in some way.Anyway, I haven't been a fan of Shizuka x Mio since the cheating shit happened, so I personally didn't care about this chapter much. Buuut I hope this development means the other couples could potentially deepen their relationships, too at some point. I can see Ai and Chie getting a similar romantic first time sooner or later.
>>3820133>the scene then shifts to her in in the classroom only to go right back to showing her alone by the tracksI meant to add that the sequence, along with Kaoru's thoughtful expression, imply the upper left panel is specifically her flashback.
>>3820230>https://twitter.com/kishitorajiro/status/1590132259520393217It's age restricted and I don't have a twitter account...
>>3820263Only manga I've ever seen where a girl gets a pube stuck to their tongue eating another out. Pure gold.
Gotta hand it to her. Mio earned it.
What would sweet innocent Nononon do if she knew what her best friend was doing in the middle of the day?>>3820355Kishi's just saying he forgot to draw the ankle wrap on Shizuka.>>3820347In fact, all the scenes at the train station are Kaoru's flashbacks as she's thinking about what she saw during class. Shizuka's too busy getting Mio'd to think about her at all.
>>3820363>Kishi's just saying he forgot to draw the ankle wrap on Shizuka.He should fix it in Virgin Empire Gold Edition, which goes back and adds nipples and pubes to the last 200 or so chapters.
>>3820383Of course it's Ayano and Miyoshi. Chapter 60.Someone put together a list of all the kisses and near kisses on Dynasty. It's at the top of page 200 so it's easy to find:https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/topics/894-virgins-empire-discussion?page=200#forum_post_802150
>>3820387ah sorry i deleted the post cuz i simply scrolled up and saw the image i was looking for, my fault also thanks!!!
>>3819653sex with the gremlin
>>3820133>If the only feeling Kaoru expressed here was surprise at Shizuka's new hairstyle and ditching school, she wouldn't have been there.I literally pointed out that she isn't there for her own take. She is there FOR SHIZUKA's callback. She is there to parallel a previous train scene in order to show SHIZUKA's growth. The two scenes she's in are a scene that previously showed Shizuka wavering, and then a scene that showed that Kaoru had found love. Now they are being referenced to show that Shizuka isn't wavering and that Shizuka has found love.You're projecting an attitude onto Kaoru that just isn't there. She did NOT want to be someone Shizuka couldn't get over, she deliberately, straightforwardly kept telling Shizuka to fuck off and go pay attention to Mio. She did not at any point try to hide that she had totally stopped giving a shit about Shizuka and the last like, half a dozen chapters where the two of them are together are chapters where Kaoru basically ignores her existence to chatter away about how great Mayoi is and how she wants to get closer to Mayoi.>The two of them had an unhealthy relationship that...Yes. 150-200 chapters ago. You are just ignoring Kaoru's entire storyline here to pretend that she is the same person she was in chapter 98, when Kaoru has literally not bothered to pursue Shizuka even a little since 113 when she fell hard for Mayoi.The story has been about SHIZUKA moving past her lingering feelings, not Kaoru, who is impulsive and hasn't looked back since the day she met Mayoi.
Mio is such a chad. She grinded and won the heart of the hottest girl in the series fair and square. Congrats to her.
>>3820546Four studies of a young girl happy that her clingy ex has finally moved on, T. Kishi, 2022, Digital.The picture you paint of Kaoru isn't the least bit believable. She's had her hooks in Shizuka for years and almost killed herself when she cut her off. Feeling like that don't disappear immediately, no matter how cute someone looks in braces.If you want callbacks to previous events, that's one. Kaoru takes Shizuka for granted, openly pursues other girls and is then horrified to realize Shizuka can just leave her. Also, something happening a hundred chapters ago means very little in this manga, since the cast keeps rotating. In-universe, this has taken a couple of months.
>>3820690>The picture you paint of Kaoru isn't the least bit believableI'm not painting a picture. I'm describing exactly what happens in the manga. Kaoru WAS obsessively clinging to Shizuka... again, 150 chapters ago. It's not about the time difference, it's about all the shit that has happened between in those chapters, including Kaoru explicitly figuring out what love was for the first time and growing as a person.Kaoru's entire thing is being impulse driven. Shizuka broke up with her in the first place because Kaoru couldn't help but just kiss random girls. She was attached to Shizuka at the start of the manga, yes... and then Mayoi happened and she no longer cared. Shizuka threatened that she was going to leave multiple times, and multiple times Kaoru, very seriously, went "yeah, look, I'm busy right now.">Kaoru takes Shizuka for granted... and is then horrified to realize Shizuka can just leave her.This happened 164 chapters ago, that is what you are NOT understanding. At the start of this whole arc, Kaoru realized Shizuka was prioritizing doing stuff with Mio (over her phone call) and might leave and she started constantly wedging herself between them or otherwise trying to overwrite their relationship. And then she met Mayoi and 100% completely stopped doing ANY of that; she has not once attempted to pursue Shizuka since then. It has been Shizuka throwing herself at Kaoru, or trying to use Mio as jealousy bait to get Kaoru to react to her, and Koaru going "yeah, yeah, I'm busy". The story started with Kaoru recognizing that Mio was a potential threat she needed to actively sabotage, and progressed to her telling Shizuka to go to Mio, because she had moved on and Shizuka needed to move on too. You are ignoring the progression and narrative, arguing that Kaoru is shocked to learn something she's explicitly known this entire time.Cropping together misread expressions while ignoring context and overall characterization isn't proving anything.
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>>3820700The problem here is that you're taking Kaoru at face value. Just because she, or any other character, makes claims about her desires or alleged character growth doesn't means she's correct. Surely you've noticed the jokes about Kaoru insisting that if she was the old her, she'd kiss the girl in front of her, and then kissing her? Or how she started flirting with the girl on the train while Mask waited for her on the station? Kaoru hasn't changed nearly as much as she claims and would like to think.The scene of Kaoru and Shizuka at the library doesn't contradict what I'm saying at all. Kaoru doesn't want to be Shizuka's girlfriend. What she unconsciously wants is a controlling relationship where she can do whatever she wants to Shizuka, including telling her to go to hell, and Shizuka keeps coming back. This seems to be how their relationship has worked all through high school, ever since she blackmailed Shizuka into being her friend again by hurting herself. She only becomes horrified when she realizes Shizuka won't be coming back. I don't think her sabotaging Shizuka's relationship with Mio was even primarily about jealousy. It was about keeping Shizuka in line and Kaoru luxuriated in her ability to play an irresistible NTR villain.Or, if you want to be more charitable to Kaoru, Shizuka was probably her first serious girlfriend and this is the moment their relationship being over really hits her. It doesn't matter that she's the one who first wanted to dissolve it. Few people actually want to see their ex happy with a new partner.Or maybe Kishi decided that wide open eyes with tiny pupils have been unfairly used to signal extreme distress and decided to reclaim them for happiness. Who can say?
>>3820772>you're taking Kaoru at face valueBecause that is her entire character, anon. Her biggest strength and greatest flaw is that she is entirely straight-forward.>Kaoru insisting that if she was the old her, she'd kiss the girl in front of her, and then kissing her? Or how she started flirting with the girl on the train while Mask waited for her on the station?You mean two examples of her literally doing the thing she's open about really wanting to do? Is this supposed to be proving she's not to be taken at face value? She literally cannot force herself, even when crying and terrified of the consequences, to not act openly on her desires.> She only becomes horrified when she realizes...She's not horrified AT ALL, full stop. Upset Kaoru does shit like not eating or getting out of bed or collapsing because she was too stunned and stood still for hours. She doesn't just go about her regular school day. The scene at the library entirely contradicts what you are saying, because your whole argument is that the turbo-honest character is lying and secretly harboring some desire to monopolize a girl she has over and over again told to move on and demonstrated she has no problems with seeing move on. She has nothing to be horrified by because she was already horrified 164 chapters ago when she first learned that Shizuka had started to move on to someone else. If you'd bothered to read the library scene or pay attention to any of their interactions, you'd see Kaoru explicitly explain that what she wanted wasn't to be able to tell Shizuka to fuck off, she wanted a very clear front and center relationship where she can dote on Shizuka and be the one she was looking at. You're just making up an elaborate headcanon for how Kaoru's entire character isn't the character she's had this entire manga, but is instead some whole other contradictory persona not evidenced anywhere outside of your interpretation of four panels.
For what it's worth I also read it as Kaoru getting suddenly excited for Shizuka then being shut out and left behind. Probably because it's what happens on the panels. If you want to dig through ancient history, Kaoru is fickle and selfish, and seems turned on by rejection.
>>3820783There's really no point in continuing this if you can open your post discussing an event where Kaoru acts in a completely contradictory way to what she claims to believe and end it by concluding there's nothing contradictory about her.
Kaoru did nothing wrong.
>>3820796Yeah, there’s obviously a reason Kishi spread over 9 or so pages what he could have done in far less and it’s not just about showing Shizuka’s growth, but Kaoru’s reaction to it - which is far more complex than this anon seems to need to browbeat us all into believing.
>>3820905Come on now, I also like Kaoru's shameless behavior but she always knew how Shizuka felt about her and took advantage of it to get back with her whenever she pleased and make sure she doesn't get over her, while also playing around with other girls, until she met Mayoi. We're obviously way past that now and all but let's not pretend she wasn't a shitty person.
I love how every Shizuka and/or Kaoru chapter provokes heated debates. Never change, /u/
>>3821027I literally only bother with these threads when they get a chapter.
What's Kaoru like in bed?
Still not over this shot.
>>3820263Ooo I havent read that, I'll check it out for sure tho, description sounds promising. might aswell check out Kishi's other stuff too i guess ^_^
>>3821027Personally I'm saving my heated debates for the MahiMahi chapters, they've had it too good for too long.>>3821082Genuinely amazing, but still nowhere near as good as she thinks she is.
>>3821027Shizuka is the queen of the manga. These threads were fun when she cheated on Mio, 90% of the thread became Shizuka posting lol
>>3821163I love Shizuka I love shizumio
Right now I would say Mio is queen of the realm.
>>3819994I’m glad someone else pointed this out, she’s such a gentlewoman.
>>3821180First Citizen of the Republic of Sluts.
>>3819108That .. was .. NUTSthe facial expressions were so sweet. sorry it took so long to upload, but its uploaded along with mini41
I might be simple minded but I read that part in the chapter as Kaoru basically realizing that being left behind fucking sucks. A taste of her own medicine. Where are we going from here is what intrigues me.
>>3819108Repulsive Pigzuka should be killed.
am i dumb, or is virgins empire never getting formally published in english? i'm dead serious when i'm saying i would purchase every single volume. don't get me wrong tho i think the chads are absolute heroes for the trans work they do. but i still ache to own and admire the physical copies
>>3821646AmeriKKKans are too puritanical for a decently lewd manga where almost everyone is underage. It'd also probably be pretty hard to market since the style changes so radically after a couple of volumes.
>>3819259Mio mostly topped, since that was the plan and Shizuka can't move too much because of her injury. However, she wasn't very assertive about it, since you kinda lose that energy after opening by crying in bed. Shizuka was also the one teaching her what to do, though it turned out Mio had the basics down thanks to thorough online study.The implication seems to be that they were at it for a while since they both got tired enough to go to sleep afterwards, so I'm guessing they tried all sorts of things. Mio's obviously no Kaoru yet, but she's attentive and eager and left Shizuka more than satisfied. Also, Shizuka would have wanted to return the favor in a way that kept her ankle safe and didn't undermine the dynamic of Mio abducting her, so Mio probably received her first non-solo orgasm sitting on Shizuka's face.
>>3822453Amazing. Thank you.
>>3822453Also, feeling Shizuka's muscles tighten and looking up to see her arching her back was one of the proudest moments of Mio's young life. As a student of Murasaki Shikibu and Sei Shounagon, she wrote a tastefully erotic poem about it and sent it Shizuka. They then exchanged small poems about their day of passion until they fell asleep.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch258Will Midori finish what Kaoru started and cure Hibiki?
>>3822896Cute poses.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch259Damn, that's romantic.
>>3823762lol mahiru
>>3823762Yuu, her wife and their two (married) kids.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch260Virgin second year>Sorry I can't kiss you, but my mom's only out of the house for fifteen minutesChad first year>You're going to miss school today because I'm taking you home to fuck
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316190246964472639New mini
https://twitter.com/kishitorajiro/status/1592543334358487041Looks like VE's going on a month-long hiatus because of Kishi's health.
>>3824325Do we know kishi's blood type? Anyone two people here willing to donate one kidney each?
>>3824295>mom wants to see some yuri action>daughter denies her
>>3824409Seriously. Mom looks excited.
>>3824409>>3824461Mrs. Okayama has no idea about their relationship. She's just trying to seduce Chie.
>>3824480>Mrs. Okayama has great idea about their relationship. She's still trying to seduce Chie.
>>3824480>>3824490Hot.
>>3824322otp
>>3824390A, according to Mangaupdates.
I can't believe it finally happened.The real Virgin's Empire was the virginity they lost along the way.
Holy shit girls, you won't believe what Mio and Shizuka did in the new chapter:https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch261
>>3824945What music would go well with this?
>>3824945This was so well done and I loved the spliced in Kaoru scenes.
Holy SHIT
>>3824900Shizuka and Kaoru have definitely already banged though?
>>3825028It's already such a heightened mood, so adding music might be too much. Maybe some lowkey soundtrack stuff.>>3825103That's the implication.
Someone start a new thread.
>>3820703"I got it" cracks me up every time.
>>3825028Expansion of Blockade.
New thread: >>3826214
