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HBD Riko! I hope you had a good time with Chika!
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Her birthday is over. It was ruined.
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Liella ships pixiv current ranking:
1)KanoChisa(1585)
2)KekeSumi(1535)
3)KanoKeke(1040)
4)KanoSumi(475)
5)KanoRen(353)
6)MeiShiki(312)
7)ChisaRen(256)
8)SumiRen(227)
9)ChisaSumi(204)
10)KekeRen(91)
11)KekeChisa(70)
12)KinaNatsu(67)
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14)SumiNatsu(32)
15)KinaMei(23)
16)KanoNatsu(19)
17)ChisaMei(18)
18)KanoMei(15)/RenMei(15)
19)KekeMei(9)
20)ChisaNatsu(8)
21)ChisaKina(7)/KekeNatsu(7)
22)ChisaShiki(5)/MeiNatsu(5)/SumiShiki(5)
23)KekeKina(4)RenNatsu(4)/RenShiki(4)
24)KanoShiki(3)/RenKina(3)
25)SumiKina(2)/SumiMei(2)
26)KekeShiki(1)
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Ships ranking on pixiv
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>>3786313
>YoshiRiko is more popular than ChikaRiko
Don't know why this will always irritate me. Was there just more YoshiRiko exposure pre-anime or something?
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>>3786387
I kinda hate yoshiriko but I have to admit they look really aesthetically appealing together. More appealing at a glance than chikariko as much as that pains me to say
Also, I don't know if it's true because I was never into the seiyuu side of the fandom, but I remember people saying their VAs were really close
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>>3786387
That's the curse of the"normal monster" Riko is a girly girl and Yohane is just your average "otaku/geek" character so they are the perfect combination for a lot of people, Chika is too average looking, for anime standards, so even YouChika seems to be more about You's desires than about Chika.
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So... Is there already a trio between these money-makers seasons that is as good as BiBi/Soldier Game and Guilty Kiss? In terms of music, only. No ship.
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>>3786313
I feel an "Arts Gained in the last month" would paint a better picture of what is popular now. The ranking of total fanart where certain pairs get nearly a 10 year headstart won't see much movement.
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Just watched the episode, what was pic-related?
Something I forgot about from S1?
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>>3786555
I don't recall if it's something from S1 either, I just kept thinking about bootleg Adventure Time whenever it was shown
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>these money-makers seasons
Meaning??
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It's the maskot Keke's been wearing on her school bag ever since S1. It was also on the recruitment posters she made in episode 1 S1 and also the sticker on her laptop. It's never been put in the foreground until this episode but has showed up consistently in the background since the beginning of the anime.
While I'm at it, Sumire has a ス - Su, short for both her name and スター - Star, sticker on her school bag. Her training outfit also has this same big letter.
Kanon wears something that looks like a hamster (Chisato's favourite animal) plushie on her bag and put the same sticker on her laptop. Meanwhile, Chisato wears a round owl (Kanon's favourite animal) plushie.
Ren has a strawberry sticker on her laptop and a horse sticker on her bag, both things are her favourites.
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Thanks anon, those are some cute details, especially Kanon and Chisato.
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What happened to Yuu after this?
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>went for a hug instead of the kiss
Kuku pls.
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(Yuu) new girlfriend for S4 of SIFAS.
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Stream:
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>not linking in the past thread AGAIN
You're a fucking stupid faggot and I hate you
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Who could be her parents?
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the stuff pomu has to deal with
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The post-episode shorts continue to be the gayest part of this season.
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Who are these dykes, and why aren't they the main characters?
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>>3786387
YoshiRiko was popular pre-anime because people thought it was gonna be the next NicoMaki.
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>>3787238
Hell yeah, now give me that ShiorikoxLanzhuxKaoruko sister sandwich.
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>>3787328
Fainted from exhaustion and was left all sticky.
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>>3788917
It's an early thread made by a spammer, you weren't supposed to know about it until know, when the previous thread hit page 10.
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>>3788972
>tomato side bun
Maki and Yoshiko.

>>3788995
Chisato getting angry at Kanon cheating on her with Kinako was the best part.
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>>3788986
The argument Sumire started earlier resulting into them dropping and cracking the banner. Nothing weird about her being angry about that.
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>>3789368
Didn't watch the episode. What did she say this time?
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>>3789374
Sumire said it was a waste of time to make a physical banner since it's online they could just use some virtual background. Then they did a soul vs soulless back and forth and the banner accidentally dropped. Just fucking watch it.
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>>3789432
I'm several episodes behind. Doesn't sound like this episode was good or bad enough to warrant a watch.
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What will be the canon pairings aside from RuriAnzu?
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>Nico wants her child to be an idol
>Maki says she will only accept an idol daughter who can play piano, and that's it
>Nico has to chose between piano or no idol daughter
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Happy Birthday Sumire
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>>3785577
Liella ships pixiv current ranking:
1)KanoChisa(1598)
2)KekeSumi(1569)
3)KanoKeke(1047)
4)KanoSumi(488)
5)KanoRen(355)/MeiShiki(355)
6)ChisaRen(258)
7)SumiRen(230)
8)ChisaSumi(208)
9)KekeRen(93)
10)KinaNatsu(74)
11)KekeChisa(70)
12)KanoKina(65)
13)SumiNatsu(36)
14)KinaMei(24)
15)KanoNatsu(20)
16)ChisaMei(18)
17)KanoMei(16)/RenMei(16)
18)KekeMei(9)
19)ChisaKina(8)
20)ChisaNatsu(7)/KekeNatsu(7)
21)ChisaShiki(5)/MeiNatsu(5)/SumiShiki(5)
22)KekeKina(4)RenNatsu(4)/RenShiki(4)
23)KanoShiki(3)/RenKina(3)
24)SumiKina(2)/SumiMei(2)
25)KekeShiki(1)
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I thought this last episode was the first where the interactions between the Liella! members felt real, but that may be because the past nine were really awkward. I don't know, it was quite enjoyable for the first time in ages.

One thing though that brings this entry in the franchise down a lot is the episodes just kind of... blending together. I thought S1 was a light 6/10 but even then there were lots of repeated scenes with Keke saying school idol stuff over and over and their "battle" against Ren's stubbornness. However S2 feels like it's the same plot over and over without any breaks. Sunshine had a lot of SoL shenanigans despite the girls aiming for Love Live, and even Niji with the heavy focus on festivals had lots of variation thanks to the large cast. Superstar S2 is just "We're not good enough/but maybe we are???" for 10 episodes so far.

Also... they totally passed to the next phase and the next episode is going to be them trying to comfort a stubborn Wien, right?
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>>3790974
Maybe I'm reading too much into the plot but for tge first time I think we got a theme for this generation and maybe that's why everything seems much better than the first years episodes, it is like they have a real goal besides the McGuffin that is the Love Live.
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>>3791003
>it is like they have a real goal
It's funny how something so fundamental is so lacking for this series, I also complained before about the lack of identity of various LL series.
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>>3791014
>so lacking
More like the writers don't know the themes of the show (first gen was about the concept of School Idols itself with no creepy producers or shady businessman tainting the idol concept, Sunshine being about the legacy of the school idol concept) I think Niji is the best because its theme is the more simple of the franchise (individual idols, even when they're in a "sub" unit their drama is pretty much personal) but SS didn't have a theme until now so they didn't have anything to guide the plot until Wein defied them.
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>>3791019
The problem is that it also feels that SE is more improvised than it should be, twice the same topic is dealt with in the first year, they are inferior to the second and with the same moral at the end.

> SS didn't have a theme until now so they didn't have anything to guide the plot until Wein defied them.

frankly it took them too long to take a specific direction, for this type of series that is something important, it is as if they were more busy in presenting the character designs and lame biographies, than they as characters.
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>>3791019
The biggest mistake OG made was tainting the concept of "school idols" with the dumb Love Live competition and the school shutting down plot.

Sunshine in a sense deconstructed those two dumb concepts.
Which in turn freed the Niji anime to pursue what I personally think is the purest meaning of the "school idol" theme: the bonds that form between idols, and between each idol and their fans.
This is what Love Live should've been from the start imo.

But for some unknowable reason, Superstar forcibly chained those two concepts back into itself and has absolutely no clue what to do with them.
The part in season 1 where they brought back the school shutting down plot out of literally nowhere was so unbearable to watch.
And in season 2, they're basically just robots whose only programming is to win the Love Live competition.
>We gotta win!
>No that's not enough!
>Change the training menu!
>We gotta win!
>No that's not enough!
>Change the fucking training menu again!
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>>3791222
>dumb Love Live competition
That's thw divergence point that made the Love Live universe possible, without Love Live there wasn't a good reson for a group of girls to be 3 year idols with no monetary benefits instead of going for the traditional idol career, the school closing down also was a good McGuffin for the franchise. Sunshine certainly needed to kiss less the ass of μ's but that was also needed to remind us that they are in the same universe where school idols are a real thing. Nijigasaki was build over the knowledge that school idols are a thing but that there are school idols outside the Love Live enviroment. Superstar idea was more "deep" with Kanon struggling to sing and with much more focus on artistry and music, I think Hiyori from Extreme Hearts was inspired by Kanon because their goal is their art and idol-ing is only a mean and not their goal. I said that maybe I'm reading too much into S2 but the theme here seems to be the conflict between "sophisticated" but meaningless "art", represented by Wein, and the more mundane but full of meaning an feelings "art" made by Kanon and her friends, the problem with S2 is that they deviated too much of this idea focusing on the personal drama of the first years, something that worked on Niji because individuality was the main theme of the show, without touching a iota of the main conflict with Wein.
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>>3791245
>That's the divergence point that made the Love Live universe possible, without Love Live there wasn't a good reason for a group of girls to be 3 year idols with no monetary benefits instead of going for the traditional idol career,
It could just be a regular hobby/club activity that you pursue while at high school.
There's nothing special about the Love Live competition concept besides being a failed attempt at adding competition to something that didn't need it at all.

>the problem with S2 is that they deviated too much of this idea focusing on the personal drama of the first years
The problem is that the "deep" idea thing was introduced out of the writers' ass in the third last episode of the season. There was no deviation because they never had a direction to begin with.
The previous episodes weren't even about personal drama. Niji was about personal drama, yes, but not Superstar S2. Superstar S2 was mostly character intro episodes, training, wacky faces, and unfunny jokes.




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>It could just be a regular hobby/club activity that you pursue while at high school.
Not really because the entire show was made possible from Honoka being inspired by A-Rise that were the champions of the school idol contest named Love Live, without that we are talking about another show that kisses the ass of the traditional idol industry and that probably would devolve into the same overused idol drama of professional idol shows.
>The problem is that the "deep" idea thing was introduced out of the writers' ass in the third last episode of the season
That's why I said that they don't even know what is the actual theme of the show. They thought that the first year drama would be their theme but we already saw the legacy theme in Sunshine and here it didn't make any sense at all because there are no stakes besides the China plot that was barely touched and become a exclusive problem for SumiKeke.
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>>3791458
>Not really because the entire show was made possible from Honoka being inspired by A-Rise that were the champions of the school idol contest named Love Live, without that we are talking about another show that kisses the ass of the traditional idol industry and that probably would devolve into the same overused idol drama of professional idol shows.
That's the in-universe reason. The writers could've easily made something without the professional idol drama -and- the contest element (and the gotta save the school element while we're at it).

Like say, the Locodol manga which predated the Love Live anime by a year. (Apparently the manga ended its 10 year run earlier this year RIP).
Hell, even the non-anime LL media (games, novel, manga, etc.) don't use the contest element most of the time.
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And then we will had another one season idol show like Re:Stage (very good show but not a commercial success) or Locodol that would mean no Aquors, no Nijigasaki and no boom of yuri friendly idol shows so I respect the first gen for what it did even with its mistakes.
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OG was a success despite of the contest element, not because of it.
You would be hard-pressed to find anybody say that the contest element of Love Live (or the school shutting down plot) was what got them hooked on the franchise.
It was the characters (or at least their idealized version of the characters - not necessarily how they were portrayed in the anime).

Though personally I think that the franchise's success was more because of the SIF mobile game than the anime.
Even back then people knew that the anime was crud. But people liked the idea of the characters. And then right after the anime ended the game came out and everybody was playing it.
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>>3791594
>Though personally I think that the franchise's success was more because of the SIF mobile game than the anime.

As far as I know, that's what really happened with the franchise, similar to Bang Dream.

>or at least their idealized version of the characters - not necessarily how they were portrayed in the anime
this is the main reason for the popularity of the characters, that's why the depictions in the fan materials barely resemble the real characters, the same applies to the popular couples.

>>3791553
LL is not really the first or only idol yuri friendly series, Im@s anime (including CG) are quite yuri friendly, also Aikatsu's contribution is being ignored, series that has had different premises in each season and without depending on a single contest.

if we talk about forgettable flops, Venus project or Ongaku shoujo TV, series that mysteriously have little or no yuri.
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>+30 SumiKeke fanarts
>Almost the same amount as YuuPomu
The latest episodes really resonated with fanartists.
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>>3791557
can someone translate this, please? It's about a date between Yuu and Pomu iirc
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Yuu: "This takes me back!! We were this tiny back then!"
Ayumu: "You used to pull me around and then we ran all over the place, right?"

>>3791557
Ayumu's episode

"Ayumu, you were about this high back then, right?"
"You were about this high back then too, Yuu-chan"

A breeze was blowing softly in the empty classroom.
The summer sun cut through time, and brought us to a distant day.

Back then, just being able to play around with Yuu-chan made everyday so fun. It made me so happy.
I never even thought of having dreams and such.

(But now, I do have a dream)

I couldn't have imagined it back then.

That there's a world that could make my heart beat this fast. That there's a place where I could shine like this.
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Can someone who's still watching this confirm the following?

Kanon goes abroad (student exchange) right before the Love Live finals in order to convince Wien to do something
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Why can't these two be the main characters?!?
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you win anons, superstars s2 is now the worst love live season by far, I still wanted to believe they were fix the writing but nope, I aint gonna wait till the last episode to call this season the worst
the amount of bullshit in this episode was too much even for me
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>>3794689
I don't think anybody "won" here.
All the hard work that the seiyuus and animators put into the anime was wasted.
Hanada, the director what's his name, and the Superstar/OG Love Live supremacists became a laughing stock.

I didn't like the first season but I'd rather it be somewhat half-decent sometimes like the first season instead of, whatever the hell this is.
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>>3794646
This time we got some outside the shorts.
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And Chi-chan feeling up the woman who will spend the next few years with her Kanon.
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What's going to happen here?
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>>3795623
rape
snuggles
hugs
lovely caressing
more rape
tears
even more rape
extra rape
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Watched EP 11 and well, it wasn't that bad. We had some yuri here and there, Keke wasn't that bitchy nor Natsumi was too annoying and Wein was at least a funny antagonist, she was really mad and childlish but that was expected by someone that young. Yes all that foreign school thing was even more Kanon's script power in action but the entire drama with Wein was hilarious austrian frustated artist that got rejected by a art school? Well at least Wien has more excuses to want to invade Poland, the show treated her like shit
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Weird that nobody posted the pic of the 3 main ships hugging each other (with Natsumi as the third wheel hugging Shiki) here.
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Congrats to Superstar S2E11 for taking the throne of worst rated episode of all time from Sunshine S1E13.
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Happy Birthday Shioriko
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>>3790800
Liella ships pixiv current ranking:
1)KekeSumi(1630)
2)KanoChisa(1618)
3)KanoKeke(1048)
4)KanoSumi(506)
5)KanoRen(359)
6)MeiShiki(352)
7)ChisaRen(263)
8)SumiRen(234)
9)ChisaSumi(214)
10)KekeRen(94)
11)KinaNatsu(80)
12)KanoKina(71)
13)KekeChisa(70)
14)SumiNatsu(38)
15)KinaMei(24)
16)KanoNatsu(20)
17)ChisaMei(18)
18)KanoMei(17)
19)RenMei(16)/RenNatsu(16)
20)KekeMei(11)
21)ChisaKina(9)
22)ChisaNatsu(7)/ChisaShiki(7)/KekeNatsu(7)/SumiShiki(7)
23)MeiNatsu(5)
24)KanoShiki(4)/KekeKina(4)/RenKina(4)/RenShiki(4)
25)SumiKina(3)/SumiMei(3)
26)KekeShiki(1)
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>>3795997
any words about the rating?
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>>3796022
>>3795898
what went wrong?
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>>3796079
A better question would be, "what didn't go wrong".
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