Updates and Discussion for English and Japanese games with gacha mechanisms.Heaven Burns Red: >>3859993 Granblue Fantasy: >>3607078Azur Lane: >>3871330Assault Lily: >>3786036Neptunia: >>3779723Arknights: >>3855576Blue Archive: >>3819708KanColle: >>3815577Genshin/Honkai Impact: >>3878686Uma Musume: >>3834296
The most delicious couple on the yuri scene right now!
>>3898229Isn’t the pink and gloomy one more popular ?
>>3898239I don't know. But for me it's the main pairing.
>>3898239I think so, probably on account of being the gayest so far. They get the most fanart for sure. But Crow x Swan has a lot of potential.
>>3898229The most aesthetic pair, they're both such beauties.
>>3898807>earrings>aesthetically pleasingthese two don't mix
Is the new banner worth rolling for?
>>3898852That banner would have been nice for the event that just ended…
>>3898825Wow, people who don't like earrings exist?!
>>3898852Why isn’t your game in English
>>3898867I don't simply dislike them, I detest them
>>3898852Nothing is worth rolling for objectively speaking, and whether it's subjectively worth it depends on you and you alone
>>3898872It's not available in English. Luckily the Japanese in the story isn't too complicated.
Is it okay to love your twin sister a bit too much?
Nobody likes the twins with each other. They belong to other birds
>>3898995Pairing any tsugai with their non-tsugai is illegal.
Why not just name this the TowaTsugai thread every other gacha have its own thread
What does it feel like to waste money?
>>3899017Because it was a dumb thread made in an ill-conceived attempt to remove discussion of gacha games from the general games thread.
>>3899007I will pair every bird with Karasu and you can't stop me
>>3899027It’s not a waste if you enjoyed spending it
>>3899041I know the word is severely overused, but this is gambler's cope.
I spent 0 dollars on the game. Being f2p is fine for most games. You don't need to spend to read through the story or do the events.
>>3899027Wouldn't know, I just look up the pngs on the wiki and skim the threads to see if there's yuri
>999 is the item capYou hit that so fast grinding this event.>>3899017That's surely what this will become anyway.
>>3899052Anything new to report on PoE? Haven’t played in a while
>>3899053>item capIs that for the ingredients? Why are you saving them instead of throwing them in the cooking pot
>>3899072It's the stat gems I'm getting on the side. This event's a good opportunity to grind out normal missions but now that I've leveled my characters I can't spend these things as fast as I make them. Past 999 they go to your inbox.
>>3899089Ok I see. I wonder if they will keep this event type in the future because this seems just like a one-time grind they let you do at the start, not that I play other similar mobage
Towa Tsugai roadmap. Witch twins event next. No Mozu for a while it seems.
Fukurou won't go full Gun-chan, right?
What is everyone using to play this? I'm wondering if I can figure out how to put this in an emulator on a steam deck.
>>3899063That picture is not PoE
>>3899208That's up to her girlfriend.>>3899210The one benefit of owning an iphone is it's usually pretty easy playing Japanese games.
>>3898995Separating twin sisters should be a punishable crime.
>>3899208>gloomy loner >gamer girl>gay for the genki redhead Thankfully there's no Wakaba so she's probably safe, for now>>3899210LDPlayer works well for me, just make a JP Google play account with a VPN and download the game. You don't even need the VPN afterwards.
Is Genshin Impact the only open world gacha (which is not yuri)? If yes then it’s a shame, i’d kill for an OW but with yuri (even though it’s just wishful thinking)
>>3899285If you can bear the awful name Tower of Fantasy has some yuri subtexts.
>>3899287If it doesn’t have hetshit (least to the minimum) it is worth a try0krny
>>3899289Just try the first 10 minutes and if isn’t your thing delete. But the pairings are Claudia/Meryl, Alyss/Saki, and Lin/Rubilia/Ruby.
Why are all the yuri relevant gacha games (HBR, Towa Tsugai, Assault Lily) Japan-only while we get harem collection games in droves?I assume the answer is that the yuri relevant game are only coming out of Japan, which is weirdly isolationist when it comes to mobile whereas Korea and China tend to export almost everything?
>>3899310because despite all the woke claims the english speaking gacha gaming community is utter homophobic garbage
>>3899311Huh?
>>3899310China hates the gay, I think HBR is banned in mainland China. Not sure about Korea but they just seem to pander to the wider demographics. Yuri is still too niche.
>>3899310>all theforgetting the yuri-est gacha?
>>3899320Have you ever seen the Honkai community discuss gays?
>>3899366...GBF?Unless you mean games from the Bushimo "family"
>>3899390the one with explicit lesbians
>>3899285>OWWhy do this to yourself?Looks like PtN's new chapter is about to drop next week, can finally see what some of the fuss is about for Ch9/10. I'm just excited that we're getting a Oblivion Pit sweep update in the near future.
>>3899418Which is?
>>3899516HayaCoco?
>>3899431I dropped that after the dessert update, anything newly gay other than just 99 and pink girl?
>>3899431genshin's exploration is one of its highlights.>>3899532>dessert update,thats like the first update
> genshinshitpost aside, is it yuri or just goggles?
>>3899570My bad, thought you meant Overwatch which, in my defense, does technically have gacha elements.>>3899532I started during Enfer's event, so I can't say anything about previous events, but I'd say other than some goggleable character text, nothing much has changed I guess.
>>3899572Goggles.
>Towa Tsugai>1.2 million in sales in half a month>Most downloaded new title>Blue reflection>Negative reviews>Barely made 700k>Not even in top downloadsYou love to see it
>>3899835Wonderful!
>>3899835And HBR is making bank, really good moment for yuri games.
>>3899835>Blue reflectionI wonder if they were trying to use the age-old technique (which has never worked) of appealing to everyone at the same time, ending up appealing to no one instead.
>>3899835700k doesn’t seem that much less than 1.2 mil
>>3899890Keep in mind that this is supposed to be a games honeymoon period and yet the games downloaded numbers are pitifully low, the game has negative reviews and has low sales. This isn't a good look for the future of the game
>>3899890Anon... It's nearly double the downloads...
>>3899886If they want to appeal to everyone they'd keep the MC genderless or gender selectable. What they did is malice or extreme retardation.
>>3899900>What they did is malice or extreme retardation.If you consider the damage control attempt, it more or less confirms that these people didn't know what they were doing.
>>3899903I'm out of the loop, what kind of damage control did they try?
>>3899900It's even worse, this is the story the creator originally wanted to tell. He originally wanted the blue reflection protagonist to be male
>>3899904I don't remember the exact words, but it was something silly like the game "still had the yuri feeling" or something.>>3899906That just convinces me that these people have no idea what they wanted to do in the first place.It makes me feel that so many clarifications with Towa Tsugai were not so necessary, BRS was simply too stupid to think that someone could imitate them.I'm also seeing recommendations for this game on Youtube from apparently normal people and of course tier list.
>>3899919>"still had the yuri feeling" or something.I thought they had tried something more past this. Well, thanks anyway.
>>3899919I'm hearing reports that there are "lucky sukebe" scenes with male protag tripping and faceplantng in or touching the girls' breasts so I'll call bullshit on that claim.
>>3899932Welp I guess the author sees yuri as girl on girl fanservice for the male. Piece of shit.
>>3899900What did they do? Werent you all shilling this game hard, and even the OP image is from that game
>>3899950They're talking about BRS. Towa Tsugai's only male "character" is the father of one of the main characters who physically abused her, who appears only in flashbacks as a shadowy figure of pure evil.
>>3899950Anon op image is from Towa Tsugai. The game people are shilling is Towa Tsugai and the game we all hate is BRS. Might want to delete your comment.
>>3899954Oh, somehow skimmed past that Blue Reflection line in the original greentext. Thought that entire chain was about Towa>>3899955>Might want to delete your comment.Did you think this is reddit or something? Lurk six more months before posting please.
>>3899890500k difference, and the one with only 700k is from an established franchise with two games and an anime.
>>3899956>Ignores the the big ol checkbox for deletionMaybe you need to lurk a year or something idk
>>3899967Do you think that anon implied it's not possible to delete posts? Maybe you need to lurk more if you care so much about not looking stupid on an anonymous website.
Many there are a lot of downloads for Towa Tsugai but a lot of them put "retired" on their profiles, I fear there aren't actually much active players
>>3899966Two games and an anime that are nothing like it.It's like they learned nothing from the failure of Lapis Re:Lights and various other games that try to appeal to the waifufag but promote themselves using anime that have no self-insert and lean into yuri.
>>3899932The entire plot is that Aoi's ending in BR2 failed and everyone is dead again and the girls want to procreate with the guy to repopulate the world. It's net negative yuri that even ruined the previous games.
>>3899992The gameplay loop is boring and slow, the gacha aspect is also bad, rolling for the same character you already have is not fun when the cast is supr small, the game need to release more couples.
>>3899954You're confusing everyone by using BRS which sounds too much like that other popular recent game, just call it Blue Reflection.
>>3900027There's nothing wrong with rolling for different styles of the same characters, HBR and honkai both do it. The game desperately need some kind of skip or auto-rerun option though, and a lot of QoL stuff like automatically skipping summon/special attack sequences.
>>3900027>rolling for the same character you already have is not fun when the cast is supr small, the game need to release more couples.I don't want a yuri game to spam me with shallow characters, I want it to expand on the existing pairings. And nobody in their right mind plays gacha for the gameplay. The game really does need a skip or autobattle though.
>>3900002Holy shit, what a disgrace!
>>3899886AK appeals to everyone and works imoNot as much as something dedicated to a single demo obviously but still
>>3900116AK is bland as hell once you get over the honeymoon period. Don’t get me wrong, system wise I think it’s a good game and very F2P friendly, you can even get skins as a F2P which is very rare in this genre. But the storytelling is awful and characters are so, so dry.>>3899967Holy fuck you are dumb.
>>3900135Eh, I disagree heavily, I enjoy it primarily for the story and characters. Hard to find a game that puts so much effort into them while also having so many.
>>3900137I like the lore. The actual story is garbage. You can’t seriously have enjoyed the absolutely dreadful conversations GT and Blaze had that just refuse to end for example. And these things drag down the charcaters immensely. Hoshi trying to stop Ch’en leaving was another example like goddamn get to the point already. Another thing with characters is they have good background but never do anything interesting in the present outside of a select few. The Mansfield characters for example. I liked all their background and where they came from, but the entire jailbreak sequence was dogshit and only got slightly interesting when Saria stepped in.
>>3900139>You can’t seriously have enjoyed You should know better than to ask something like that. Of course I enjoyed it.You didn't like it, sure, but that's just you.>Another thing with characters is they have good background but never do anything interesting in the present outside of a select few.The main story, profiles, voice lines, events all being character focused, the story only mini-events, the explosion of personal records, modules, all the lore in the roguelike through items/events/endings, the monthly roguelike challenge runs. There's tons.
The only good thing about Sun was JP people calling it 惨 instead of 燦 (appalling instead of radiant, both read 'san'). Can't fail soon enough, hopefully before they drag the other characters into it.
>hachidori casually kicks tsuru out of the way when she sacrifices herself for her>post-tsugai killing a boss, tsuru has to grab hold of hachidori before she runs offThe special tsugai animations are fun. Karasu and Hakuchou's are way more dramatic. I can't remember seeing the other 2's yet.
>>3900002Proof, this sound too retarded to be true
Husbando beggers are pathetic. If anything ever reaches 50:50 guys they would still whine for more.>>3899431This new game's development is very intriguing. It's hard enough to be a girl in China so the female playerbase knows it cannot afford to be inclusive and play nice when it comes to the one media that puts some effort into its femc.Amusing points of interest:The female playerbase is very protective of Female Chief. A 3rd party illustrator made a promo image for CNY event annoucements and a lot of posters got pissed - it was mostly male Chief with fem Chief in the background.No one complained about chapter 10's story, just the inane difficulty of it's maps. Lots of mobs rushing you, needing core breaks while everything is on fire. We got the easier version of Stargazer's event so we might get the easier chapters too.Anyone who says they want more male characters is immediately and aggressively shit on. Noticable counters are "why doesn't mcdonalds have rice noodles??", "go play otome or arknights", and "how come azure lane doesn't have guys? why no girls in touken ranbu?". I see some requests for 20-30% guys max but these are obviously lies. The current vocal playerbase is adamant against "sharing" with straight girls and on the western side, I found two threads from reddit - one remained up out of politeness and a different one was dogpiled into deletion.
Man, I want to get into Towa Tsugai, I like the setting and the story direction/presentation is very cool. I have it downloaded and started playing, too. But the gameplay is just so absolutely mindnumbing and identical to most other FGO-like soshage that I just can't make myself go through it to get to the story. I just can't survive another Granblue-style storytelling where every short dialogue is interrupted by a random "oops local monsters are attacking, let's talk later".Blue Archive had the right idea of decoupling the story from the irrelevant battles (though it took them almost two years to also remove the "cleared X main missions" story unlock requirement).
>>3900390Kokona and her ex-wife
>>3898184Why is Neptunia even in the OP? It had a gacha years ago which died immediately for being bottom tier garbage.
>>3900560I made this thread but am relatively new to gacha and it sounded like a gacha franchise sorry
>>3900675Wow... I guess you can be that new after all. Life never ceases to surprise me. May I suggest actually checking out the series you put in the OP next time? It's not a big deal because at least Neptunia did have a gacha at some point. But not knowning that it is an RPG series is just weird.
>>3900675You forgot to link the D4DJ and Bushiroad threads too
>>3900273I hate that they have a male character that's equivalent to Genshin's Bennett, so now I have to wait for a female A rank equivalent that might not even come.
>>3899919>BRSSpeaking of, isn't the Black Rock Shooter mobage out? Anyone know how it is?
>>3901459region blocked too
>>3899431>why do this to yourself?Why not?Now imagine if Magical Revolution was an open world gacha like GI. it’s massive wishful thinking but perspectively it’d be very nice imo
>>3901459pretty sure it has a male MC
>>3901033Don't know anything about genshin but Sis, your Deren?
>>3900675>I made this threadWow. You even suck at making a containment.
>>3899835>BRS>Somehow still made 700kI somehow dont feel so good, bros...
>>3901033Are you kidding? Che is not even close to Bennett. The latter is practically required to make some dogshit characters function while you never have to bring Che in PTN.
>>3902131? A universally useful character that breaks two cores while boosting the team's damage. Not expensive to build and is so easily accessible any sane person is using them on their team. >you never have to bring Che in PTNNo shit, with how easy the game is right now minus BFL.
>>3902148Nobody on /u/ is using Che.
>>3902155I use Che (in bfl)
>>3900273yeah well that's nice and all but i rather they co exist instead of pushing the "usual suspects" away from the game. the western reception has been on the lukewarm side and while i dont expect the worst to happen or anything, CN making major bank will be the main way the game can afford expand and innovate
>>3902384I mean, you have CN gachas like Arknights where their revenue streams show only about 10% coming from NA but they've still been going strong for years. But yeah the nicheness of PtN longterm may be a concern
>>3902155Okay? I don't use him either, but he's still useful. That's the comparison.>>3902384The Western audience has always been low spenders in any gacha gam I've played.
I can't figure out the relationship between these two just yet. Are they supposed to be master and pet?
>>3903791Close enough. It looks like the next story chapter might be about them, like how the twins and childhood friends had their turn.
Anyone played through Ch9 and 10 of PtN? If so, how'd you think of it?I got spooked with Eirene so I'm using all my stamina on getting resources for her. I'm curious if there's more Hecate backstory and if the story will convince me to get Oak Casket like they did with Hamel in the previous chapters.
>>3904276Three months ago I saw someone post this picture (without the dialog box) here and decided to check out the game.Really glad I did. I finished chapter 9 and loved it. They're trying some new things in the gameplay department and I like both Dudu and Oak so far.Only downside is Chapter 10 isn't dubbed in English yet, so I'm debating if I wanna continue with CN/JP or just wait.
>>3904276>If so, how'd you think of it?Fuck firebreathers. It was alright. To me it felt like there wasn't much to latch onto Oak compared to Hamel/Serpent, I was more interested in Dudu who sadly left the story early. There wasn't any Hecate backstory.>>3904619It wasn't voiced in JP either.
>for their level 3 tsugai event fukurou asks if she can sleep with flamingo (platonically)Poor Flamingo.
>>3904276People were understandably losing it at the sudden difficulty spike and the requirement for under utilized sinners but I felt refreshed after each stage. Hamel is necessary as THE healer unit. So far oak is just a glass cannon that some stages try to convince you would be helpful. I got her and will raise her but she isn't replacing anyone on my core. Story wise I think they really wanted to make it clear chief shouldn't be so reckless and that she's hurting her closest people with these plans. Hecate herself is interesting with the many mysteries they hint at. Chief having some sort of plot with Hecate before she underwent memory wiping.And finally another goth chick for the line up
>>3905221Flamingo should learn to take what she wants by force or she'll end up as a useless lesbian. Same about Suzume
from the wedding costume event
>>3905284>Chief having some sort of plot with Hecate before she underwent memory wipingThat's pretty much been hinted at since day one though.
>>3905485Yeah thats why I didn't need to spoiler anything. No real developments on that front. Hecate still is probably a Rei clone.
>>3904631>It wasn't voiced in JP either.It doesn’t seem to be in Chinese either…so is this entire chapter not voiced in any lanuage? Even in China to this day?
>>3905284It’s kinda annoying how necessary Hamel is because I just can’t get her no matter what.
>>3905361I recall her saying something similar, I treasure you?, to the girl that made Asellus' outfit. Asellus sure is smooth.
>>3905284>sudden difficulty spikeI can definitely see what you mean, just got to 9-10 and I think now's the time to maybe level up an Endura character.>>3906222She's in the next banner if you've got enough cubes to spend or aren't saving for the limited character banner right after hers.
>>3905221Pain.
>>3906574It's Flamingo's turn to go berserk.
>>3902649Doubt it. PTN caught on in South Korea, so it's earning ~1m USD monthly outside of China.
>>3906681It's just going to be the Adachi rant followed up with "Haru... Sex..." And unlike Shimamura Fukurou will be forced to remember every word of it forever.
Finally more story. The other pairs stories were good so I'm hopeful about this TsuHatchi one.I hope Karasu gets jealous eventually.
>>3906874>karasu pays no attention to tsubame hitting on her wife>flips her shit at tsubame hitting on the twinsI can't tell if she feels secure with Hakuchou or just isn't nearly as attached yet as Hakuchou is to her. She did figure Tsubame out in their substory together, but her big sister instincts are too strong. Also I love how excited Tsuru got at hearing Karasu tried to escape before.
>>3906435>maybe level up an Endura characterhecate's summon was good enough for me though i guess it depends on the team you're using
>>3902384Husbando games shut down fast and yet I can't imagine them welcoming requests for gay option female characters to increase their playerbase.
>>3907284Eh, I'm using Demon and some others and they get overwhelmed by that swarm of enemies too.
I don't know what Ensemble Girls is about, but sinv it has no threads I'm just gonna dump its stuff here.
>>3907133Tsuru just wants a partner in crime
With Towa Tsugai's fanart contest over, looking at my extremely objective findings of counting the fanart I saved off pixiv and twitter:>Childhood Friends: 106>Twins: 68>Conspirators: 67>Fated Pair: 61>Right and Wrong: 35Popularity seems fairly even aside from the childhood friends getting practically double the attention. Tsubame and Mozu are obviously handicapped but have their fans already. I saw some concerns about the complicated designs scaring off fanartists, but there's some good art all around.
>>3910547The outfits certainly seem complicated to work with, but I'm glad there are artists willing to take the challenge. >Childhood Friends: 106Is it the personality gap? Or Flamingo's Flaminogs?Well they did have the best moment in the game so far, but I feel they were popular from the get go.And I'm surprised Conspirators had more fanart than Fated Pair.
>>3906222>HamelHer rate up's in a few days so let's finally pull her out of that lake.
>>3910574Jesus fucking finally.
Trying out PtN. Is it f2p friendly?
>>3911122Somewhat. Once you have finished everything you get around 30 pulls a month plus events. The pity is 80 so if you are unlucky it's 1 S character every 2 months.There's no pvp.Attires usually are released 2 paid 1 free. Costumes don't offer in game advantages, but are pretty cool.S rank characters usually rank higher on their respective category. They are a big help, but none are required to clear any stage. The only one that I don't take off my team is Nox and she is given for free to new players.
>>3911210To add on, there's currently 2 types of banners, Event and Routine, where pulls are carried over in their respective banners when rate-ups change. New characters are usually added to the standard pool after some time when their banner expires. We're about to get our first Limited-type banner in the next month(?) so it'll be interesting to see how things are going forward.Stamina is the biggest issue, though that might be attributed by how convenient everything is with the sweep feature.
>>3911445>though that might be attributed by how convenient everything is with the sweep featureoblivion pit...
>>3911210theres a huge amount of one-time pull income as a new players though. someone should do the math
>>3911445I found for the stamina issue it might actually be worthwhile to get the Black Key thingy once in a while, since it's really cheap but also gives a nice boost to daily stamina. If you take it a little slow (like 100 stamina a day) during off story you can actually build up a decent amount to splurge later. And 5 bucks is actually a decent price for what it gives (and the extra hypercubes don't hurt either)
>>3911536Made a new account to check out. Just counting cubes and tickets not resources.7 day Luvia Ray login: 10 tickets, 800 cubes.2 million players pre-registration: 13 tickets, 800 cubes.Nox 14 days mission: 7 tickets completing everything. 60 cubes day one. There's more rewards each day, unfortunately only the first day is visible.New players should get 30 tickets and 1660 cubes for free.
>>3911921There’s also the tickets for Libram collection though I suppose that’s a bit RNG
>3914018Go back and kill yourself
You can survive just fine with Ariel, Hamel isn't as important as Nox.
