Updates and Discussion for English and Japanese games, visual novels, RPGs, etc which contain yuri.Last Thread: >>4260330Lists of Yuri Games:https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4oc1uvr5vl96m/Yuri (Generally non-VN games)http://store.steampowered.com/curator/6864182-Hella-Yuri/ (Anything available on Steam with lesbians in it)https://vndb.org/g1986?fil=tagspoil-0.tag_inc-1986 (VNs tagged Yuri Only)Yuri Game CGs:http://pastebin.com/PXKFuZGhNew here? Need a starting point? Try the /u/ recommendation survey results:https://pastebin.com/WRpxij2kRelated threads:Yuri Gacha General: >>4236995 Hat World: >>4107813 Neptunia: >>3779723 Signalis: >>4230341 LIly LYric cyCLE: >>3649128 Baldur's Gate 3: >>4203885 Life is Strange >>4228323 Gamedev idea thread: >>4223220 Personal Yuri Projects thread: >>4225806
News:-Kitsune Tails is out (yuri platformer)-Everlasting Flowers releases on August 29th (VN)-Field of Mistria in Early Access (farming sim with /u/ options)-Lilja and Natuska - Painting Lies is out (VN)-Fate/Extra Record announced for 2025 (RPG/card battler with /u/ options)-CrocApoca!! [Crocodile maiden at the End of the World] will definitely come out on the 30th of August. Believe it.
>>4267609This OP pic is only for me. Nobody will ever know this ship. Those who know are real though.
>>4267611>nobody will know this ship from Ace Attorney, famously underrated and overlooked series of gamesAnon...
>>4267611I don't think Ace Attorney is a super deep cut these days, nee-san
>>4267614Are you trying to support my statement or something? Because yes, TGAA is super underrated and underrepresented and this ship is even more niche, because she is shipped more with Ryunosuke (for some reason).>>4267615I would agree if we were talking about the mainline games.
>>4267610>-Everlasting Flowers releases on August 29th (VN)Does it release in english too or we'll have to wait ?
>>4267617Yes.
>>4267616>Are you trying to support my statement or something?No.
>>4267619You should. Out of 100 people who have played an AA game I guarantee you that not even 5 have played TGAA. Probably even fewer TGAA2 which this ship is more relevant for.
>>4267621I mean, they're on Steam and stuff no prob. I don't think they're niche hidden gems anymore.
>>4267623Lots of niche stuff is on Stean. Weird argument. TGAA1 sold basically nothing when it came out and it took Chronicles for them to translate TGAA2 and they bundled it up for Steam.I really don't get what's so hard to understand here. Compared to the mainline AA series TGAA is basically unknown. Hardcore fans know it's the best written games in the franchise, but awareness is low. Almost any game/case/character ranking list you can find will not have TGAA in it because the list makers never played them. Fanart? Probably not even 1% of mainline AA. Though funnily enough Susato and Rei get a lot of their fanart together, because AA is a fujo franchise and they only focus on shipping the guys with each other. That leaves the girls to be put together on the side.
>>4267625I dunno, I'm pretty sure this is kinda just hipsterism. No offense. It's got 4k positive reviews on steam, which is almost 3x what the new apollo collection has. And even compared to the original trilogy, it's still got about a quarter of its reviews. You're making it sound like this unknown title 90% of fans haven't played, but it really isn't true.
>>4267629>4k positive reviews, 3x as much as ApolloChronicles has been out for 3.5 years anon. Apollo came out this January. Apollo trilogy is also twice as long and has two very divisive games in it. TGAA does have the advantage that whoever plays it actually understands its brilliance. Lastly Apollo has been on sale once and still cost 40 bucks, meanwhile TGAA was in a bundle with the original Ace Attorney Trilogy for like 30 and on sale all the time. That is a major incentive for oldschool players to try it... and yet the review and popularity balance is still this completely uneven.Give it 3 years and Apollo Trilogy will have the same amount of reviews or more than TGAA and definitely outsold it. Especially now that they ended the old bundle and will put AA and AJ up as a bundle. Don't be surprised if even the Miles Edgeworth Investigations duology that comes out next month will outsell TGAA in a couple of years.
>>4267610Fields of Mistria is out on Early Access, I believe it has /u/ romances
>>4267648Yes, that would be why I put it in the news post. Thanks for noticing?
>>4267610Revue Starlight El Dorado comes out this Thursday, has English too.
>>4267654Irrelevant, not yuri.
>>4267649Oh sorry I scanned over it, oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDg4wZsaC-EIt was brought up last thread. Fate/Extra Record was finally announced for next year. The second trailer unfortunately acknowledged MaleKuno exists, but the majority of the trailer is still Hakunon. Their entire PR strategy has heavily focused on Hakunon over the male protag option in general.I never thought the day would come where I could see Rin molest Hakunon in 3D. What glorious times we live in. First CCC gets translated after 10 years and then Record gets announced after 6.
>>4267633Okay, but outside of comparisons to the rest of the AA series, 4k is still a ton for a VN. Classics like Higurashi and Umineko have been on steam for almost a decade and have 4k/2k reviews respectively. Mainstream normie titles like stein's gate have 16k reviews. And of course there's all the small indie VNs with reviews in the hundreds if not dozens.By pretty much any metric, 4k positive reviews for a VN means it's decently popular and not niche. It just seems small when compared to the core AA trilogy, but that's because it's one of the most popular VNs of all time with over two decades of fandom behind it. It's pretty popular.
Ace Attorney but in a yuritopia!Everyone is a girl!Everyone is a lesbian!It would sell billions!
Have they confirmed there's no romance of any kind in Star Wars Outlaws?
>>4267662Tons of tragic yuri with all the murder victims and culprits.
>>4267660AA games aren't just VNs, that's why they are popular. They are actual detective/puzzle games. It also helps that they were always available on mobile devices, which rekindled the popularity of the original trilogy. TGAA didn't have that advantage.>it's only little compared to the mainline gamesYes and who do you think plays AA games? Like there arent gonna be any random people playing TGAA. It's only AA fans. So the only comparison that matters is the AA fanbase. Comparing TGAA to some niche yuri VN makes no sense, because those audiences have no crossover and the popularity of TGAA does not depend on how much more players it has compared to those, but how it compares to its contemporaries. If 3 million people played an AA game, but only 10k people played TGAA you can definitely not say that those games are well known or popular. It just means that a tiny fracture of the existing fanbase has played a spin-off that does not appeal to anyone outside said fanbase. And to bring it back to yuri, nobody knows AA yuri ships. It's a niche within a niche.
>>4267664Ages ago. Why do you keep asking? The answer won't change.
>>4267659So aside from the fact that the yuri will clearly be kept intact (thank Madokami) and maybe will be expaned(I see a lot more original female NPCs), I really like the gameplay change from the rock-paper-scissors system to a turn based card battler. The longer I think about it the more natural the transition becomes. It is so damn obvious. Good on them.Also the presentation is top notch. It's unfair to compare it to a PSP game of course, but the arena sections are amazing. Snowboarding, parrying boulders, dodging 8-bit bombs, changing landscapes. It's a wild difference to the super samey mazes from the original.
>>4267659I like that Hakunon still has her flat NPC stare. For some reason she seemed a little brighter in Extella and that kind of took away from her charm for me. I like her chronic resting NPC face.
>>4267662I don't know about you whippersnappers but I was shipping whip girl and not!samus since the ancient days
>>4267666I still think it's a bit silly to call it niche when it's got more reviews than like 80% of all VNs and holds its own compared to other AA spinoffs. Like yeah it has a fraction of the playerbase the core games do, but so many VNs would dream doing the numbers it does. And even a splintered fanbase from one of the most popular VNs ever is pretty huge.But anyway we can agree to disagree, it's getting a bit off topic anyway.
>>4267670Uh... this happens very early on so she still is mostly an NPC with barely any consciousness. The entire point is that across Extra she grows into her own person. In Extella she is already the ruler of the Se.ra.ph and has two wives and a lot of time to acclimate to being a person. I think Hakunon in Extella/Link has her own charm. She is far more emotional in a good way. But it's not that different from how she acts for the second half of Extra and especially ALL of CCC.I like that she can smile so wholesomely in Extella.
>>4267672Franziska and Adrian Andrews were certainly one of the few somewhat popular yuri fanart subjects. But when it comes to OG pairings for yuri fanfics you basically only had Franziska and Maya.The actual canon of the games leaves little room, but as this anon >>4267665 posted a pic of the only confirmed lesbian in the franchise... and her crush had a daughter and died in a brutal way.... you can tell that AA was not made for yuri.
>>4267674I know, I know, don't get me wrong. I like her in Extella and Link just fine. And you can tell from her voice in Link she's still a bit understated. I just find her NPCface cute. I also find it hysterical whenever it makes her wives swoon.
>>4267677I mean the one thing you cant deny is that Hakunon's eyes are HUGE. Her dead stare is so piercing that it probably actually directly causes a BREAK on her Servant's psyche.>Link voice actingThe Record trailer showed off that the same voice actors for Hakuno will return to this game. I wonder how much actual voice acting we will get. I feel like Nasu is trying to go further and further away from the self-insert think with every entry in the Extraverse.I don't expect voiced dialogue... but maybe the choices could be voiced? It's probably just gonna be battle lines in reality...
>>4267676There's also that one liner in Rise from the Ashes about Lana and Mia. Ema's just a little homophobe (also like 15) and tries to downplay it.
>>4267680That's 100% goggling, but you can have it. Mia is fucking dead (and had a thing with a certain coffee freak) and Lana is in jail. Not much use even when you maximum overanalyse a harmless line about admiration from a colleague to another.
>>4267659>Kitsune Tails and sorta more Tamamo no Mae stuffLife is good, never enough fox girl yuri in the world
>>4267680Remember that the one who misinterpreted as romantic was Phoenix Wright, the same idiot who in the very same game can suspect Grossberg of being lovers with ReddWhite. This guy's gaydar is more broke than his bank account.
>>4267655How is the lesbian theater troupe not yuri?
>>4267679>I feel like Nasu is trying to go further and further away from the self-insert think with every entry in the Extraverse.That's fine with me. Hell, Hakunon was downright gallant in Extella. Literally best girl.
>>4267682desu I think there's legit ammo there, sure it's a goggly ship but Lana deliberately uses a pretty powerful term like attracted and not something more neutral like interested or intrigued. And then for the followup, Ema answers for her. It's definitely in the pure shipping realm but hey. One day I'll totally write that indulgent Lana/Mia college days fic.
>>4267655Retard
>>4267702Come back to me when it's actually explicit and not just your headcanon.
>>4267702>El DoradoCome back to me when it actually has Elton John.
>>4267818I find it pointless, becauause they knew each maybe for a year (Lana graduated earlier) and Mia started dating Diego when she was a total beginner at the Grossberg offices, so fresh out of law school. Even if she was a bislut, there is just nothing going on. Even when Diego went into his coma and was basically declared dead, Mia couldn't have reconnected with Lana as she was busy becoming a top lawyer and opening her own agency. And Lana turned cold and changed completely after the Dharke case and the blackmail when she was made chief prosecutor.Basically in canon there is no way. If you want to write a fanfic it has to be an AU that changes a lot of moving parts.
>>4267711That was always the great thing about Hakunon, she isn't a real self-insert. Her backstory and feelings and character development are the focus of the entire story. A self-insert tends to be side-lined and get no characterisation, but Fate/Extra completely goes against the curve. Even when taking the different choices into consideration, Hakuno has a strong personality in all her interactions, especially in My Room with her Servant. Nasu can't write self-inserts for shit, he always needs to do something with the protag and that's a good thing.
>>4267842So I'm new to the fate games but I got fate/extella for cheap, how yuri is it overall?
>>4267852Just play the female protagonist. Profit.But please don't start with Extella. Play Extra first. PSP emulation is super easy these days.
>>4267856Whats the order then?
>>4267610>Everlasting Flowers>no mention of love/romance/yuri anywhere on the game pageIs this another subtext VN like Painting Lies?
>>4267859Until very recently I would have said just play Extra and you are good. But recently the sequel to Extra was translated after 10 years.Here, this post from the archive should solve all your questions:https://archived.moe/u/thread/4107738/#q4107750(it's the first post under the news post)
>>4267860No. It's an explicit yuri VN.
>>4267860The author said he was inspired by yuri manga to create a delicate work, so at least there's that, but whether the work itself has actual romance in it is up in the air.
>>4267863It's not though. It was called a yuri VN quite explicitely by the artist.
>>4267865Source?
>>4267866Look through the archives. I can't be bothered to look for it.
>>4267860Well, its has an LGBT[...] tag on steam, but so does Painting Lies, so I guess we'll only find out when it's released.
>>4267867Already did, there's just this which I referenced earlier:https://sprite.net/everlastingflowers/staffcomment/suzumoriSo, as I said, it's up in the air.
>>4267860You already answered yourself, if it was yuri then the word would be splattered across all PR avenues.
>>4267868Painting Lies has lesbian couples in it and the main couple do kiss and are pretty much obviously in love. It's not like it's misleading.>>4267869If you somehow pretend this isn't explaining why the artist chose to do a yuri VN you are purposely being obtuse.
>>4267873>Painting Lies has lesbian couples in it and the main couple do kiss and are pretty much obviously in love.Yes, I know it's typical yuri subtext.>why the artist chose to do a yuri VNThese are your words, not his, all he said is that he took inspiration from yuri manga to draw the pictures, that says nothing about the contents of the story aside from it having female characters.The actual advertisements for the VN say nothing about yuri or romance, which isn't what usually happens with maintext works.
>>4267873>pretty much obviously in loveHeh.
>>4267877Classic yuri VNs:>the girls are in loveModern yuri VNs:>the girls are pretty much obviously in loveReally makes you think.
>>4267878They finally reached anime levels, soon we'll have the same desperate discussions here about how that VN is totally yuri because of how intensely a girl gazed at another.
>>4267876>subtext>literally explicit lesbian couples
>>4267876>all he said is that he took inspiration from yuri manga>called up his friend who also likes yuri to make a VNYes, now I know you are purposely being obtuse. No more feeding you.
>>4267877>>4267878Neither of you played it, so you have zero room to talk. They kiss, they go through all the romantic stages, the literal only thing they don't have is a confession scene, but why do you need that when it's just clear they are dating? In real life people get together all the time without having to go to the rooftop and ask each other out.
>>4267885>I know it doesn't say it's a yuri VN anywhere, but a member of the staff mentioned the word yuri several times!Guess LycoReco is maintext yuri since the writer did the same.>>4267886>the only literal thing they don't have is confirmation!>and there's side lesbians!That's a great description of subtext.>muh realismScraping the bottom of the barrel here.
>>4267887Ugh, such low level trolling. Bait used to be believable.
>>4267887Just be glad there's people who are going to take the bullet for us.
Fucking hetshitters coming in here again saying games with literal lesbian couples, lesbian marriage and a main pairing that develop romantically and kiss aren't yuri. Great job yuri /v/ideo game thread.
>>4267889These are the kinds of people that will swear anything is maintext if their headcanon says so.Last thread we had the same thing happen for Painting Lies, until the guy posted an actual log of the kiss scene, which was something that wouldn't feel out of place in a gacha game, so it became clear which level of yuri we were talking about.
>>4267880>soon we'll have the same desperate discussions hereLike clockwork.
>>4267891Except, the idiots here who obviously didn't play the VN and solely rely on random screenshots (aka you retards), don't know that they kissed twice and second kiss was not part of the play, just because they wanted to kiss. And the entire play relfected their relationship up to this point and was about their feelings for each other.I just love when people who never touched what they are talking about act all smug. It really shows that this isn't a yuri thread, but a thread where people come to deny yuri.
>>4267876>>4267877>>4267878>>4267880>>4267887>>4267889>>4267891>>4267892Samefag troll. Jesus Christ, they let anyone in here these days.
>>4267894>don't know that they kissed twice and second kiss was not part of the playOk anon, I'll humor you, post the log for that as well, and if it is as definitive as you're implying, I'll admit to being out of line.Not holding my breath though.
>>4267896No, I will give you one chance. Play the game and come back to me. I will not spoonfeed a troll. There is zero chance you are genuine in any way.
>>4267897>I-I won't give proof, but I'm totally right, I-I swear!Just as expected.
>>4267898>show me a summary of an entire VN's context in one screenshot or I will continue to make disingenious claims based on huffing my own fartsAs expected. Making demands when you don't give a shit and are just here to do mental gymnastics to deny any yuri is too pathetic.
>>4267897Wow, how to admit you're wrong without admitting it.
>>4267900What is this retard logic? I played the game and I told you what happens in it. Then you make big demands to show you screenshots of that scene instead of just looking it up. This proves you don't actually care to fact check your own claims (which were based on literally nothing but misinterpreting a single screenshot).
>>4267900Just ignore him, you'll never get anything objective from people like him.When Everlasting Flowers is released, look for honest reviews and comments outside of here.
>>4267902Stop. Samefagging. It's so goddamn see-through.
Why do people keep replying to shitposters who openly admit they know nothing about the games they shitpost about? When literally every other place on the internet classifies it as yuri at that. Move on.
>>4267609Why is het in the OP allowed? Not to mention Ryutaro is a pointless character who comes out of nowhere and never shows up again after the case.
>>4267910I know you would love to be a comedian, but... Don't quit your day job.
>>4267659>not sleeping on a bunch of desks>separate bedsTamamo isn't gonna be happy about this!
I will be most displeased if Hakunon can't enjoy Tamamo no Mae's fluffy tail
>>4267948Hakunon herself will be even more displeased. She is absolutely crazy about the tail.
>>4267614>>4267611Ace Attorney fandom is too yaoi-focused.I also would like to complain that what little F/F Ace Attorney content is out there is mostly Fransizka/Maya which is an absurd crackship considering the two characters barely interact at all
>>4267662>Ace Attorney but in a yuritopia!>Everyone is a girl!>Everyone is a lesbian!>It would sell billions!Objection.There would be no crime, and thus, no game
>>4267962Franzi/Maya is mostly about their potential, as they are the same age and good foils for each other. That's just how fanfic writers roll. >picSo I wasn't the only one who noticed the twins totally have a thing for Trucy. Batty is super tsundere and super gay for her.
>>4267966>>4267962Trucy is really a /u/ queen. 2 great ships
>>4267978>two great shipsNah, Trucy/Pearl makes no sense. The only one you can do outside of her and the bunnygirl twins is maybe Athena. They always hang out at the office and get along and at the very end of the original main timeline (SoJ case 6) it is shown that Trucy replaced Apollo with Athena as an assistant in magic shows. There is some room for exploration.
>>4267982Trucy/Pearl isn't that far out there, the only problem with it is Pearl is boring as fuck
>>4267966Every case would be DV.
Bamco announced that a new SRW game is being developed.Half of /v/ is livid due to the posibility of G-Witch being featured on the game. The other half can't stop posting about how the game will "fix" the show by rewriting Suletta and Miorine as straight or how they will play as Guel while benching Suletta.
>>4268004>new SRW game>posibility of G-WitchFuck. I hate what this anime did to me. I'm planning to get Breaker 4 just because I can play as Aerial and I'll probably get this when it eventually releases. >>4267842I don't care for Fate at all, like maybe even repulsed by how overall straight it is, but I love the artist that did this series. Seriously making me want to try out these games by art alone.
>>4268004Only fix they should apply is making Nika's yuri harem explicit.
>>4267985Pearl's just never around after the timeskip and she never interacts with Trucy, so I do consider it far out. There is nothing to latch onto for a writer.
>>4268004Can you stop bringing /v/ stench over here, please? This is completely off-topic for /u/. Nobody here cares about another board's bullshit.If you want to talk about SRW having G-witch included then do it without talking about hetshitters and incels ffs.
>>4268012>like maybe even repulsed by how overall straight it isIt's such a boring and shallow perspective. I don't understand why this has to be treated like some special stigma every time. Nobody here goes on about how repulsed they are by the fact that other franchises have het at every turn when something yuri pops up in it. Nasu writes basically all his female characters bisexual. It's far less straight than most proper het franchises.The Extraverse in particular lends itself to yuri because of the female protagonist. Play it or don't, nothing more to it.
>>4267962Is Fran/Maya really more popular than Fran/Adrian? Back in the day that was like the premier ship.
>>4268038Franzi and Adrian only appeared in one case together and even there the interprtation of anything romantic is completely silly when it was mostly just her coercing her into hiding shit during the trial. Not to mention Adrian returns in T&T and makes no reference to any connection to Franiska still being a thing.Franziska and Maya both were in two entire games together and even without that, they have way more presence in the franchise so obviously they are more relevant to fanfic writers.
>>4268041In the credits roll of T&T, Adrian mentions how Franziska came to see her again and even taught her how to use a whip. That's pretty heavy ammo, or at least in comparison to some other ships. Definitely a level of caring in there.
>>4268044I don't remember that, but that's nice. Doesn't suit clusterfuck klutz Adrian from T&T at all though. They really ruined her.
>>4268041>Not to mention Adrian returns in T&T and makes no reference to any connection to Franiska still being a thing.Objection.Franziska/Adrian makes since because Franziska is a domineering perfectionist and Andrews is a co-dependent bottom, they're perfect and even the writers seemed to agree
>>4268049You're slow. >>4268044And my opinion doesn't change. There is so little to work with. If the Apollo trilogy hadnt completely forgotten Franzi's existence then maybe I we could have seen if they still have a connection, but alas...
>>4268049>Andrews is a co-dependent bottom*Who was already in a relationship with a woman in the past.One thing that really bothered me that the anime changed this to them being sisters.
>>4268053They weren't in a relationship in the game. It was at MOST alluded to that Adrian's "admiration" may have been more intense than friendship, but at the same time she is co-dependent, so there was always room for denial. Not to mention the woman she was so attached to dated TWO shitty men who caused her to commit suicide. There never was yuri, only heartbreak.
>>4268049desu Franziska is only a perfectionist because of family pressure, I don't think in their personal lives she'd be this ultra strict top or anything. She's also not even 20 soo.
>>4268054>It was at MOST alluded to that Adrian's "admiration" may have been more intense than friendshipThat's close enough, and pretty much the exact same wording as Blackquill's love of Metis which is unambiguous>Not to mention the woman she was so attached to dated TWO shitty men who caused her to commit suicideYeah she's a disaster bisexual.That's why Von Karma fixing her is the true ship
>>4268056I don't think she can turn it off.She could get married and still call her partner by their full name.
>>4268064>She could get married and still call her partner by their full name.Nothing wrong with that.
>>4268061>it's the same as Aura's love or MetisNot at all. Aura literally has a section during the trial where she reprimands her brother and says "You know damn well that my feelings for Metis were more than just as a work colleague".The freaking judge, of all people, striaght up asks if that means what he thinks it means. If even the dottard can understand the gay overtones, then it's as direct as AA would ever get.Adrian never says anything close to this and she is never protrayed explicitely that way.>disaster bisexualWhat are you even talking about? I was talking about Celeste. Celeste dated those men. I was trying to clear up that there never was any hint towards Adrian/Celeste being an actual couple. It was at best one-sided love, at worst co-dependence on a friend.>>4268064At least don't use gender neutral terms... if you have to headcanon keep it yuri.
I finished the Dance of Masks DLC. That was really fun! Also felt kind of like the ending to the story, which is weird, because the final battle still awaits. I guess it's comparable to the Mass Effect 3 Citadel DLC.Aside from the fact that just having more fun interactions with the companions (sans Camellia and Wendu because they are corpses) was nice and that the arena was very exciting, I especially loved hearing all the voice acting. Aivu hasn't spoken once since she was introduced, this was literally the first time I heard her voice again. Also notable is that the crew from the Through the Ashes/Lord of Nothing DLCs actually participates in the party. I neven recognized the bard on the stage as that NPC I saved. I looove that kind of attention to detail.Can't believe I got the "icognito" achievement after my commander literally turned the entire market square into a flower field for a moment. Even the main antagonist was somehow fooled by saying it's just a really good costume lolHaving my dragon daughter die of overeating and then sneaking off to have the most saccharine romance scene with Arue in Desna's temple... really no regrets.Next it's time to finally face Areelu Vorlesh and end this game.
>local 30,000-year-old woman arrested for grooming 15 year old princess into "alternative lifestyle" before convincing the teen to murder her own mother and usurp the throne.
>>4268163Why are you just posting the cover art? Vampdoll was mentioned last thread yeah. Anything to add?
>>4268032>Play it or don't, nothing more to itDuh? You do you and I'll do me. If a franchise starts off straight and then slowly trickles in yuri then yeah? of course?? I'm going to be commenting on it. Baffled by this comment on a yuri board.
>>4268163The artistic inspiration from Vampire-chan × Junior-chan is really obvious.
>>4268186You are really dense... You'd think you could get a point as basic as this, but nope.Fate/Extra came out in 2010. Do you understand? The yuri has been in TM since 14 years ago. It is not "slowly trickling in". There have been several sequels over those 14 years who all kept the yuri intact.Now for history lesson, as you are too stupid to understand the point about why Fate/Type-Moon stuff was never "too straight" compared to literally every other series you actually wouldn't make these kinds of stigma comments about.2004: Fate/Stay Night was released. Nearly every single female character in that game is bisexual. Whether that was immediately shown in said game or later in spin-offs.The literal origin of this series that people complain about being too het had a bisexual female deuteragonist who gave cunnilingus to the main heroine just because she had the hots for her. And no, it wasn't a threesome, they took turns. Rin's bisexuality is implicitly why the Good Ending of her route has her keep Saber (the main heroine) in the present world despite the severe strain it puts on her. So that they can have a polyamorous threeway relationship.Yes, that shit isn't good yuri, of course nobody likes when guys are involved, but the point is that Rin's bisexuality was never denied or downplayed.Rider prefers hunting girls (which is a mix of predatory instincts and sexual gratification). Caster despite being married to her male master, has a serious obssession with Saber and kidnspas her, puts her into a pretty dress and just watches her get mind broken by a lust spell so she would become hers and further spin-offs just heightened her being into her.Sakura in further material is shown to actually have sex with Rider regularly to suppress her urges.I can go on and on, but you get the idea. Female characters in Type-Moon works always have a tendency towards bisexuality. But Fate/Extra is where this manifested just as full blown yuri (by choice of course).
>>4268197What I don't get is that with FGO being basically the face of the franchise (even though I despise it), how people have this hyper het image. You can play FGO with a female protagonist too. Not to mention how many gay interaction the female servants in that game have regardless of the protag.Prisma Illya (the loli magical girl manga) is full of yuri overtones, even if you ignore the anime's porny fanservice. It's gayer than most actual magical girl shows it parodies.It's just weird that all of that stuff gets ignored in favor of the bog standard het stuff you see in everything anyway.
>>4268201Well those people literally go out of their way not to see it. It's why those same het people complain when there any perceived yuri pops up anywhere like BA.
>>4268206BA?
>>4268188>artistic inspirationI don't know if it counts as artistic inspiration when the same artist worked on both of those.
>>4268207Blue Archive (which I know is a hornets nest here but the devs do pander to yuri fags, look at all the fan art over the years, much to the dismay of its Korean and Indonesian audience
>>4268209Welp, that explains it then.
>>4268210Blue Archive has a forced male self-insert though. So the waifufags are pandered to a lot more.>fanartThat... has nothing to do with the actual game? Fanart doesn't have to reflect the actual game's reality.I obviously don't play waifufag gacha trash like that, so I'm not claiming I'm intimately familiar with the game's deeper aspects. But I don't see much evidence for actual yuri in the stuff I know.
>>4268213I know, and the game panders to it when said self insert is gone (the most recent update is proof enough). But my point is that, those people always push back no matter how tiny it is, because God forbid two women get together with out male involvement
>>4268224I think you fundamentally misunderstood who I'm talking about then. I'm saying (alleged) yurifags like this guy >>4268012 who just flatly claim that a franchise is super repulsively het, when confronted with actual yuri from said franchise are dumb, because they actively ignore the yuri. I don't understand where that false image comes from.You seem to be concerned about hetfags who push back against yuri before it even really takes root.
>>4268230Oh I guess soMy bad
Guess that solves the question of who tops.
>>4268186So in the interest of trying to coax someone into a set of games I'm fond of, I want to be diplomatic here. To be 100% clear, the Extra series can be enjoyed without knowing anything about the rest of the type/moon franchise. I never got into the VNs and I only had passing knowledge of Type-Moon's stuff when Extra came out.It can exist entirely self-contained. Even between the games, the continuity is kind of handwavey at best. If anything that's a potential mark against it because the space between CCC and Extella is a little blurry. You have to understand that CCC is the direct sequel to Extra but it wasn't translated until current year. For an english-only it was just as well that Extella didn't depend on having finished CCC. You should still finish Extra first either way, you'll be totally lost without that much most likely. As far as yuri goes Links is kinda light, but it doesn't discredit any either and it upholds Extella's ending.I hope all this ruckus hasn't totally locked you into avoiding this part of the franchise, it's really pretty fun, and the remake of Extra is coming before too long so now would be the time to get interested.
>>4268201>Prisma IllyaThe problem with it is that the yuri is fanservice. When the male MC shows up everyone melts over him, and then a shota version of Gilgamesh appears which further worsens things.
>>4268267>male MCPrillya has no male MC. Illya is the MC. I know you mean Shirou, who is literally just her adoptive brother in this, but it shows how little you understand the manga.Now to be specific, at the very beginning of the manga Illya had a silly brothercon thing, but over the manga it stopped coming up and she was entirely pushed towards her yuri ships. Not that Ilya ever would have had a chance with her much older brother who only sees her as a sister to begin with. So let's just forget that nonsense.>shota GilgameshWho is not a love interest to anyone, which is quite refreshing. He is just a little shit helping to get his stuff back.
>>4268197I can agree with you in spirit, but I think this is a somewhat charitable interpretation of Nasu's writing. He thinks bisexual women are exotic and cool, but in terms of representation and serious depictions the track record gets a bit muddier. Rin talking about how she likes girls in the middle of an FFM threesome is basically eyerolling porno dialog. FSN in general is kind of full of sexist tropes, like Shirou repeatedly insisting it's not right for Saber to be fighting because she's a woman or edgy over the top violence against women for the sake of raising the stakes.Granted all of this does get better in Extra which is what we're talking about, I'm just hesitant to praise Nasu for his consistency in writing about women who like women when a lot of that early stuff is pretty darn rough.
>>4268274>you can't praise a later work if the early works are badGuess Saya no Uta and Kikokugai mean Madoka's shit now. Go tell all the Madokafags here that, I'm sure they'll agree with you
>>4268276Oh like I said it's a lot better in Extra, I'm just talking about how praising him for his consistency is kind of questionable for me.
>>4268274Sigh...>bisexual women are exotic to himIs that why he makes nearly EVERY woman bi? Not very exotic if it's the standard.>FFM threesomeIt was not. Rin and Shirou do not interact in any way during that scene. Like I said, it's more like taking turns on Saber. And it's not about "talking about it" that matters here, it's that she actually consistently is written that way from start to finish. The literal prologue of the game is from Rin's perspective and ends with her getting cornered by Saber and her just having a gay episode about it gushing about how beautiful she is internally.>blatantly stupid talking points from someone who never played F/SNI should have known you had no idea what you are talking about and are just parroting a random sentiment you heard once.Sexism? The literal point of the Fate route is that Shirou is an idiot for trying to be a knight in shining armor for a Servant 1000 times more powerful than him. His desperation to be a hero is supposed to be a FLAW, not sexism. Note how none of that happens in the Rin or Sakura route. Every route takes apart his hero complex in a different way.But anyway, F/SN isn't sexist. It is full of strong women who tell Shirou to fuck off and generally accomplish far more than him.>edgy over the top violence against womenSuch a dumb claim. So it's bad if it happens to women, but fine if it happens to male characters? Because I have some news for you what over the top violence happens to males in that story. When it comes to violence Nasu is very utalitarian. It happens to everyone.Extra is in essence not that different from F/SN, but rather a soft reboot of it with a stronger focus on technology and even more abstract philosophy, which is Type-Moon's bread and butter. The only thing I can even claim Extra improved over the original F/SN (you know aside from the femC and yuri) would be how Sakura is treated in CCC. Infinite times better of a character. Had nothing to do with sexism tho.
Is there any way to filter by free or not free on vndb? I'm tired of spending a good 20 minutes looking for one, finding the perfect one, then seeing that it costs like 20 bucks
>>4268464Anon... How have you been on the internet this long and still not learned that everything is free if you want.
>>4268464VN search -> + -> Release (set to exclusion mode) -> Non-Free
>spends 20 minutes on going through yuri VNs on vndbThat sounds very doubtful. There aren't even that many.
>>4268471
>>4268471do you just look at titles or something?
>>4268483And of those 900 there are like 100 in English.>>4268484It doesn't take more than 10 seconds to tell whether a VN is worth a damn if you just use vndb as a source.
>>4268487>Girl X Girl Romance Only>English636 results
>>4268487>And of those 900 there are like 100 in English.Do you think that just because you can only speak English, everyone else is the same?
>>4268488Now search foer "lesbian protagonist".>>4268489You can't speak Japanese.
>>4268491>Ah, but if you look up [obscure tag] there are less!>Gotcha!
>>4268491A ton of yuri VNs don't have this tag because the protagonists are either bisexual, "I don't love girls, I just love you (a girl)"-sexual, or their sexuality is never specified, dimwit.
>>4268493>lesbian protagonist>in a yuri VN>obscure>>4268497Yes, those are all disqualifiers, well spotted.
>>4268498Good to hear Seabed, Akai Ito/Aoi Shiro and Kindred Spirits have all been disqualified from being yuri VNs. We've endured this filth in our midst for too long.
>>4268498So there can be a VN with only girlxgirl romance, but because the protagonist doesn't scream "I'M A LESBIAN" it's not good enough?
>>4268502If the author can't even tell us she is a lesbian, how can we trust them? That's a pretty big oversight either by the writer or by vndb.
BG3 how much interactions change depending on if I play custom literally who or origin characters? Say, does Shadowheart-Laezel relationship any different from custom-Laezel?
>>4267659Pros: The amount of effort they put into femC's hair physics. That is something they can't just do with a model swap in cut-scenes, which means those are all unique animations for her. In the older games the hair was just a solid object, so they didn't have to try.Cons: The mouths when they talk. They better fix that shit if they want anyone to take dialogue seriously. That looks like a low budget CG effect. I know cell-shaded animation is very hard to do and the game generally looks quality, but they really need to do those touch-ups in the year they have left.
>>4268516The differences aren't as pronounced as ma ny would like them to be, but origin characters have an existing backstory that affects their personal quest and some interactions.If I remember SH/Lae in particular have some unique dialogue when they romance each other. But it's not going to fundamentally change the bigger picture.The devs ship them though, so that's good enough for me.
>>4268210Given its size, the "yuri fanart" is still significantly less than others of the same size like Genshin or whatever. I don't really have any hard data to back this up, but it's really what I feel when surfing Twitter. It's even completely outclassed by Bandori.Also, still mad they rejected the female design for the anime, which got proposed first before the bland male design.
>>4268491>Now search for "lesbian protagonist".Yeah, next you're going to try telling me that all sorts of other games aren't really het just because nobody bothered to apply the "male protagonist" tag because they thought it didn't need saying.(Yes, I do go around adding male protagonist tags to hundreds of games. It's a common problem.)
>>4268553Can you swing by sadpanda and add "females_only" tag to old yuri doujins?
>>4267655Why did they put this tag, then?
>>4268614Steam tags are not reliable. Anyone can add them, even prople who have not played the game. This happens all the time. Or do you agree that it is an otome game with sexual content and psychological horror too?
>>4268616also doesn't help that it's all shoved under one umbrella with gay, trans, and everything else in between
>>4268619In this case we know the cast is all cis female, so there isn't that much room for error if it was an official tag, but as I said, totally user based and uncurated.
>>4267654I've missed them. And Maya screaming save and load in the system voices gives me life.
>>4268505I think it's a reasonable assumption that the creators of these things aren't the ones who put them up on these sites and aren't the ones responsible for the tags.
>>4268677That wasn't my point. I am saying either the writer is at fault for not pointing out the protag is a lesbian or vndb is at fault because taggers got lazy.
>>4268679>vndb is at fault because taggers got lazydo you have the slightest idea how vndb actually works or are you actually as insanely entitled as you sound here?
>>4268274>Shirou repeatedly insisting it's not right for Saber to be fighting because she's a womanThat's just Shirou being Shirou, he's not meant to be seen as particularly sane, what with his saviour complex and all.
>>4268702More importantly, he gets his shit kicked in for that dumb attitude and stops acting that way. Also it was a bit more nuanced than that. He never says that shit about Rin or Rider or any other woman. It's because Saber looks like a 12- I mean 14 year old girl and fights giant men and monsters.He sure didn't tell Rin she cant fight because she is as woman when she Gandr barraged his ass and nearly killed him.
>Unironically discussing Fate Stay/Night on /u/ of all placesGrim. While we're at it why don't we make threads about het harem VNs and show?
>>4268712Admittedly the Shirou stuff isn't too relevant, but the prior posts were more about Nasu's writing style and how there were a lot of bi girls in the stories from the start.The idea that the writing is sexist is just unfounded and shouldn't reflect on the much more on-topic games.
>>4268716Don't reply to bad faith posts like that one. These slippery slope arguments of "why don't we also have threads about this and that" are indicative of a concern troll who has only been on /u/ for a few years.
If this is a treatment of women in Type-Moon discussion now then I can sum it up briefly.Nasu has stated repeatedly and often that he prefers writing female protagonists. You can see that since his earliest works like KnK in which a strong female protag is the focus. Even F/SN was meant to have a female protagonist (see Fate/Prototype). He only started doing male protags because eroge with male protags sold better. Witch on the Holy Night, basically the last big original VN he did? Female protag. The only stuff with male protags he does these days are literal reboots or spin-offs of his old male protag works.The fact that female Hakuno in the Extraverse has preferential treatment is not a coincidence. It's exactly how Nasu always did it. Worth mentioning is that Nasu likes writing strong women, like seriously overpowered ones and in contrast very weak male protagonists with some special trait who always rely on those strong women. And obviously his female protags are all super powerful. Sexism is really a laughable accusation in that context.On the dark side of these works is that in his older writing he had a strong tendency of showing how evil someone is via - or to shock people with - rape scenarios. It's just a fact that those older works had a lot of women getting raped. It's a stain that can't be ignored. Even so, at least he does portray it as evil, unlike a lot of other old-school eroge writers.TM has gotten a much cleaner image over the decades and Nasu clearly is happy to have gotten out of the eroge bog. This might ironically have a slightly negative effect on the Fate/Extra remake, because the scene where Rin or Rani can have sex with the female Servants will most definitely be taken out. Sacrifices have to be made for progress. At least that also means no Archer sex possibility.There is nothing to get hung up on in my opinion. Fate/Extra, Prisma Illya and even FGO to a degree can be enjoyed for their yuri with a clear conscience.
>>4268712Just annoying Fate fanboys coming out of the woodworks to come to its defense. Will probably be the same in the Hoyo thread when the collab happens next year.
>>4268741>unironically goes to the HoYo thread>somehow shits on Fate stuffThat's hilarious. Yeah don't Fate and its actual bisexual ladies taint your pure het gachas.
>>4268702Well yeah, but I can't approve of sexist tropes even if they're being used for character development. There are far better ways to explore his survivor's guilt and desire to save people than with dumbass wait girls shouldn't be fighting nonsense. It's the same thing with the game explaining in detail how Sakura is infested with worms and was raped basically daily for years - horrific and raises the stakes sure, but there's gotta be better ways to establish that than with what's effectively shock value.>>4268735>Worth mentioning is that Nasu likes writing strong women, like seriously overpowered ones and in contrast very weak male protagonists with some special trait who always rely on those strong women. And obviously his female protags are all super powerful. Sexism is really a laughable accusation in that context.I can agree with most of what you're saying, but I'm not 100% sure on this one. Many of his women are powerful and cool and independent for sure, but many are also partially defined by their crush on said drippy male protag, which does strip them of a lot of their agency as characters. Not that I'm comparing the two because FSN is actually an interesting story, but you see this kind of setup a lot in dumb harem anime. Skilled and powerful girls, bland guy with unimpressive abilities who they're all into for unknown reasons.Like in FSN, about half the female cast (and certainly the most important half) basically all have crushes on Shirou. Not insignificant parts of the game have him chilling out at home surrounded by cute girls all crushing on him, and of course the story develops a romance with each of them depending on the arc. His lack of power is real but the finales of 2/3 stories are focused on how he develops this amazing ability that's crucial to overcoming the baddie. I do agree the HF ending with the fight between the girls was a cool change of pace. Anyway, this element in particular I have mixed feelings on.
>>4268735You are lying and you know it.>The fact that female Hakuno in the Extraverse has preferential treatmentFalse. Male Hakuno is canon as far as anime goes. Nasu is not some bumfuck noone, if he wanted to make female protagonists for FGO or Fextra anime, he would have done it.>Nasu likes writing strong womenOnly to be lovestruck for male self-inserts or co-protagonists. And by the way, it's not his favorite archetype. In reality it's a "raped girl" that appears over and over to suffer, being increasingly more misserably fucked by gangs of rapists, old men, monsters or whoever you want to portray as evil. And to farm sympathy of course. That's his real passion>Even so, at least he does portray it as evilHow conveniently you forgot that rape is only portrayed as evil when someone other than protagonists does it. When the protagonist does it, he is forgiven in most scenarios, or it is somehow justified. Hell, for some roots it's even REQUIRED.>The only stuff with male protags he does these days are literal reboots or spin-offs of his old male protag works.Another thing you "forgot" is that with reboots he deleted from his shit universe the only lesbian character with no strings attached.TL/DR. Nasu is a hack. His usage of yuri is to only spice up things for self-insert protagonists. No self-respecting yurifag can honestly enjoy his works.
>>4268751As most of this is really off-topic for /u/ I will keep it brief.Everything you say about how survivors guilt and stakes can be better explored with different tropes literally happens in F/SN. I already explained it, every route explores the characters differently. UBW addresses the whole hero deconstructuon the healthiest HF straight up abandons the hero path.And honestly, do you want all female characters to be the same? So what if one is defined by her crush on a protagonist (I disagree there is a lot more going on), that's part of a varied cast. The real problem would be if that applied to every female character or if they couldnt function without the male protag or if they had no agency or if they were just helpless damsels or if they were just trophies etc etc. That is actual sexism. TM works barely ever stoop to that. Even less so in the works with female protags.Far more interesting (and on topic) would be how in Fate/Extra's Hakuno is probably legitimately the weakest protag of the entire franchise. She has no special skill other than being super tenacious. She relies on the strong people around her to solve everything and yet all the girls (and boys) love her. It's a zero to hero story with absurd underdog vibes. It's honestly far more ridiculous and bad than in F/SN for example. But F/E is more enjoyable nontheless. The one time Nasu (even if not solely) writes a "weak" female protag it resonates and works with people more than his weak male protags. Hakuno has less personality than a Shirou or Shiki, but maybe that has the advantage of not annoying people and allows the conceptual component to get more attention. The theme of survival and overcoming fear are the strongest and most primal and thus relatable.
>>4268757All valid for sure. I'm just personally hesitant to frame setups with a bunch of strong women and one guy with low-medium power as this innately anti-sexist arrangement. Especially when they're collectively crushing on him to varying degrees.
>>4268755>"you are lying!">immediately lies about the anime on the first point Ouch. What a start.Female Hakuno is canon in the anime. She is the actual Hakuno Kishinami who won the Holy Grail War and was Nero's lover. She only lost to the unfair final boss and the male protag we follow in the anome is NOT the real Hakuno, he is an amalgamation of all dead Masters grudges who just took her name. The anime is probably the biggest proof that Female Hakuno is canon lol>Nasu doesnt like strong women because I said soBoring. Dismissed.>Sometimes rape is forgivenYeah... when the protag was literally possessed by the main villain or mind controlled. I wont go into hetshit more than that. Rape has not been a relevant topic in TM works since 2005 and certainly not in works with female protags since then.>he deletes the only lesbian characerAnd who is that supposed to be? Ricebeef? The Nasuverse works on multiversw rules. Melty Blood is still canon to a bunch of universea and so is everything sureounding Wallachia and Sion. Like I dont kbow what lesbian you mean otherwise. But if she existed then that means Nasu did write a lesbian during those old works you hate so much. Either way you will find a way to whine.
>>4268758Even in F/SN a lot of the strong female characters arent crushing on the male protag, especially not at the same time and usually they have some reason. But that's not sexism, that's just het harem shit. It's tropey but certainly not as bad as any of its contemporaries, because TM works are actually about something and romance is a minor factor (mostly). Rin Tohasaka is one of the best and most well rounded female characters ever written (even if she gets Flanderized in spin-offs). The fact that she is canonically bisexual and not a pushover and arguably more important and relevant than the male protag is great. Like I said, F/SN was supposed to have a female protagonist. This is a fact the original plot and script were revealed long ago and even slightly adapted.I very much see Rin being the deuteragonist as Nasu coping with having to write a male protag. And Rin's a good example of a woman who is written basically anti-sexist. She also sort of has her own bisexual harem if you really look at the franchise lolNow if only she could start making out with Luvia in Prillya... Those two are like one step away from hatesex.
>>4268743I don’t agree with them on fate but honkers is like one of the only gacha games with canon yuri
>>4268764>generic harem tsundere is one of the best and most well rounded female characters ever writtenplease kill yourself
One thing fatefags and hoyofags have in common is that both would eat any shit their masters produce. And then say it's chocolate
And for some reason refuse to stay in their containment threads
>>4268766Honkai is a disgrace that subverted its own yuri and sold out to the CCP.And the HoYo thread isnt talking about 3rd Impact. Nobody talks about it anymore. The only Honkai that those het gachafags discuss is Trash Rail which has no canon yuri.And that's between Genshin posts that cope harder than all subtext manga threads combined.
>>4268768Bait this boring only illicits a yawn from me. Not good enough.
>>4268777Are you talking about the single kiss panel they removed exclusively in the Chinese version
>>4268741>coming out of the woodworks to come to its defenseI can't speak for everyone else but I just like the Extra games and want to make sure they don't get sucked into any negativity the rest of the fateverse would draw. There's a remake of the first one coming out and I'm excited about it. I want to know more - someone was saying they'd swapped out the old RPS system, something about a card system? Do we know more about that?
>>4268651I'm likely getting it earlier today, but just to be safe, how's the English translation? Is it competent or stilted and is it consistent with the official anime sub/dub?
>>4268871*later today
>>4268874No, go back in time to earlier today and get it, coward.
>>4268892brb, booking a flight to the US right now
>>4268863God I hope they replaced the old combat system. I'm still getting through CCC and the combat is the main reason it's taking me so long.
>>4268863Anon, literally watch the trailer that was posted already >>4267659You can see the card battler in action in it.
>>4268904I really don't understand what's so hard about it. If you struggle, just lower the difficulty? The game gets far easier on NG+ runs, which is kinda the intention. It also has so many exploits and ways to abuse it. Still I consider the RPS system with skills, mystic codes and items to be fairly tactical and well made. It rarely is super unfair. People who grind even get the enemy information updated until all enemy moves are visible. In boss fights the enemy will always announced when they used their Noble Phantasm, so you can prepare.The only bullshit in the entire game are some of the secret bosses (Especially Twice/Tamamo). Those are serious skill checks, but they are optional. The items they give are amazing though and make NG+ even more of a breeze.Also contrary to Extra, in CCC Nero is actually probably the worst character potential wise. She is tanky at the start, but she has nearly no sustain. Leaving aside Gil who is literally considered broken and easy mode (because nobody here plays male Servants obviously), Tamamo is actually really damn good in CCC. High skill ceiling, but absolutely overpowered late game.
>>4267654>Revue Starlight El DoradoDoes this take place before or after the last movie?
>>4268950In the movie they get on the train to go check the upcoming El Dorado production but Nana derails the plot and it's skipped over in the epilogue, so the game is set after the bulk of the movie but before its credits sequence.
>>4268773>>4268774
>>4268954So it's irrelevant, because we know none of them get together after that. This non-yuri filler can be safely ignored.
>>4268954>but before its credits sequenceSo it's before they all go their separate ways in the end?
>>4268956despite having the perfect medium for exploring romance, they did the impossible and produced a subtext vn...amazing
>>4268958>subtext vnSeems like it's a trend.
>>4268958No, the entirety of RevStar was always just subtext, so they just stayed true to the franchise. The medium is completely irrelevant, RevStar will always only produce subtext.
>>4268954>>4268957Bummer if true, from the character descriptions they seemed like they were already separated:https://vndb.org/v41815/chars#charsI was hoping for the VN to fix things on that side at least, but if it ends before the movie does, there's no room for meaningful development of any of the anime cast.I assume they're going to focus on Shion and Kiriko instead.
>>4268961I haven't played it yet so I may be wrong, but I remember its website mentioning it's the play they put on in their third year in place of Starlight, which got symbolically killed at the end of the movie.
>>4268948It's not that it's hard I just really don't enjoy it. It's a very simple memorization game where once you cracked it you're just doing the same thing over and over again with very little variation through the entire game.
>>4268963Unless the entire VN is a flashback I can't see how those profiles match this.
>>4268966Dunno. I'll report later as I start playing it if nobody else does.
>>4268966From the game description:>For our last summer at Seisho Music Academy...So yeah, I'm guessing it's all a flashback or something, what a waste.The most value I can see coming from this is if there's some great music tracks like in the anime, but that's about it, they cornered themselves from the very premise.Who the fuck thought this would be a good idea.
>>4268965You can't memorize boss patterns unless you beat the game several times... They eve change up the order of their patterns (unless you save scum).Normal enemies? Sure the exact same type does have only two patterns, so they become predictable (especially if you grind and can just see all their moves), but upgraded enemy versions actually have different patterns from the same type of earlier enemy.I dunno, you are usually forced to creatively use skills to get around not knowing what the enemy will do. And on higher difficulties you cant afford to tank everything, not even with Nero.Please explain to me how you can "crack the code" on changing patterns? How can you predict boss fights you have never done? How do you safely ignore gimmicks? I definitely struggled on my Tamamo run (first run, no NG+) with the highest difficulty. That was the only time the game felt challenging mind you, but like I said, NG+ isn't supposed to feel hard. It's about the power trip and about getting to breeze through the game to get to the parts that change between Servants or routes.
>>4268971There are plenty of such interlude adventures in a bunch of franchises. The problem for you lot is that this isn't yuri, so it's off-topic. Maybe if you made a RevStar thread you could talk about it there.
>>4268974Sorry thread police-kun, you're not going to stop discussion of a Revue Starlight game in the yuri game thread. Get over it.
>>4268974>The problem for you lot is that this isn't yuriNo, just like anyone with common sense I knew from the start this wouldn't be explicit yuri, but I at least expected something consequential.
>>4268976>not gonna stop off-topic talk >kunYou /v/tarded waste of space really need to leave. Could you be any more blatant?>>4268978If you say so. My point is that this isn't relevant to this thread.
>>4268973Bosses are better, yes. It's where the combat system actually works for me. But you're spending most of the game slogging through grinding out the dungeons.
>>4268979>isn't relevant to this threadYuri subtext is still yuri, even though it's like diet yuri; and I've seen discussions about other subtext VNs like this in here not long ago.
>>4268985Subtext isn't yuri, it's the hope for yuri, which is not relevanrt to the yuri game thread. And as this is even a VN that has a pre-ordained non-yuir conclusion, it is 100% off-topic.>I've seen discussions about other subtext VNs like this in here not long agoNo you haven't. Literally nobody has talked about subtext VNs. You are just being disingenious and pretend Painting Lies was subtext when it wasn't. Start comparing your RevStar "subtext" to a VN with canon yuri couples, yuri marriage and protagonists kissing and get laughed out of the thread.
>>4268987>is not relevanrt to the yuri game threadThat's like saying yuri subtext anime isn't relevant in the general yuri thread, and yet it's discussed there all the time. Nowhere in this thread OP is it stated that the yuri needs to be conclusive.>Painting LiesHas a "non-yuri conclusion" as well, you're displaying obvious double standard here, so I'm done wasting my time on you.
>>4268991The difference between a currently running subtext yuri anime and a story that has a predetermined non-yuri outcome should be obvious even to you...Do you have to use these kinds of mental gymnastics? It's pathetic. The yuri game thread is exclusively about EXPLICIT yuri in games. This has never been once questioned until you RevStar weirdo tried. The most we ever do in regards to subtext in games is maybe make on post about it "Oh this game had yuri subtext, but didn't go anywhere. Too bad." That's it.>Painting Lies has a non-yuri conclusionNo it doesn't. Stop lying about games you haven't played.
>>4268991The OP pic is legit off-topic and led to tons of discussion about AA in general but anon didn't complain either.
>>4268995The OP pic is a yuri ship. Yuri fanart is always on topic in every thread.And the AA discussion mostly stuck only to the ships from those games or how canon the sexuality of said girls is. If you don't get why that is different you are really mentally challenged.
>>4268997Then one has every right to talk about a game where the yuri aspect is immensely more relevant than mere ships you have to goggle from a couple lines.
>>4268998>yuri in ReStarDoesn't exist. But you are welcome to talk about your fanfics, like the actual AA discussion did.
Somehow this thread manages to be even worse than the general. It has to be an accomplishment.
>>4269059Schizo lives in this thread + crossboarders
>the inanity of 4chan
>>4268982You really don't need to grind though and depending on the difficulty the fountains will restore your full MP so you can just spam specials and get through it real fast.If you are emulating just press the fast forward button to skip all the battle animations.Those are my tips on how to get through the slow parts.
So the thing about Fields of Mistria is that Juniper and Valen are the best options, but they're also obsessed with each other and now I wish they could get together.
OK, so most of this was fair until now, but I can't stand these segments where the platforms are shown on the other side and you have to blindly jump around following the layout as it is invisible.
>>4269164Maybe it's the screenshot, but this doesn't seem that hard.
>>4269065Stallman was right.
>>4269170Remember, this is one part of an entire tower's worth of climbing. And those double platforms Yuzu is standing on? You have to do a super precise curved jump around the edge to make it from the lower to the higher one. That is already annoying when you can SEE, but here you just have to guess. If you are even a little off, you can fall down and do half the damn thing again.The visible platforms on the left are also the only visible ones in the entire area except for the exit.
>>4268997>The OP pic is a yuri ship. Yuri fanart is always on topic in every thread.Traditionally the yuri games thread OPs should only feature art from yuri games. Not fanart.Unfortunately the usual runner of the thread has been on vacation or gave up on us or something.
>>4269188Oh cool a tradition you just made up.
>>4269190So you're basically admitting that you've only been here for three weeks and not the past ten years, okay.
>>4269193No, but I just went through the archive of the last 5 years and there has absolutely not been such a rule ever. OP pics are a mix of game screenshots (though the OP anon cheats by regularly using just CGs, which explains the absolute overabundance of VN OP pics), promotional art for games, fanart, the literal game box and even sometimes anime screenshots and just random merch (it was Flowers).Your tradition doesn't exist. In reality it's one anon who really forced their VN screenshot obssession on the thread and whenever anyone else got a shot at making a thread nobody followed this same idea. I guess posting a screenshot of a random scene in a VN is so much better than well crafted art pf a video-game ship to you? I have no intention of agreeing with such a self-limiting "tradition" made by one person.
How is Revue Starlight The Road to El Dorado?
>>4269200Not yuri.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2961460/_/A "yuri-themed card RPG" by the people who made Imaginary Future. Currently not available in english, but since the previous game got translated this one probably will too?
>>4269202Anything is yuri if you pretend hard enough.
>>4269204Calling Imaginary Future "translated" is a pretty big claim. That machine translation was so bad that I actually quit 5 minutes in. I usually force myself through a lot of jank shit, but that was just incomprehensible.
Is there any yuri VN that plays like a traditional VN with routes and heroines besides the nurse series? I don't like kinetic ones and for some reason that's what most yuri VNs go for.
>>4269216The Curse of Kudan though it's just two possible love interests and the true ending route is poly.
>>4269216>that's what most yuri VNs go forI wish.
>>4269216That's what most low budget VNs go for period, because it's easier. But as you seem to unbelievably new to even ask a question this stupid let me act nice for once.-Starlight Vega-Akai Ito-Aoi Shiro-Please Be Happy-YumeUtsutsu Re:Master/Yumeutstsu Re:After-Wolf TailsThat's probably enough to last someone like you a lifetime.
>>4269216>for some reasonProbably because yuri doesn't appeal to self-inserters nearly as much as het, so you're often stuck with real characters as protagonist.
>>4269222>you seem to unbelievably newmy first post un /u/ in fact, I only ever played sonno hanabira and the nurse ones, and little lily when it comes to yuri vns, so thanks a lot anon>>4269218ty>>4269226I believe you can make a character not be a self insert but still have heroine routes, while many het games make a bland self insert, other ones manage to have a compelling protagonist that just so happens to have interest in different girls and thats where the players acts, but its been hard to find in yuri media.
>>4269228>Thanking someone who couldn't resist to spit you on the faceWhy are you people like that?
>>4269229because at the end of the day I got a net positive gain out of that comment, nothing comes from being spiteful online, can only hope it gets better for anon.
>>4269228The problem is that you consider kinetic VNs boring, even though they are the same thing, just with a single route. So what you actually want is the feeling of being able to pick from a bunch of girls, which is... not very yuri in spirit. That's het dating sim logic.Having routes is fine, like you were just told there are a lot of yuri VNs like that (how did you never find those seriously?), but that's just a style. It's not because they are better than kinetic ones.
>>4269230It won't, you should've seen all the deleted posts from a few hours ago.
>>4269232Those had nothing to do with this at all.
>>4269229That anon consistently gives results. Ignore the tone and you get everything you want.
>>4269196>I guess posting a screenshot of a random scene in a VN is so much better than well crafted art pf a video-game ship to you?No, I'm fine with ship art, but the ship needs to actually be from a yuri game.
>>4269231I find it kinda boring because if I felt like reading a book with drawings I would go to read yuritama or the other LNs I have been leaving in the backlog for a long itme at last, I like a minimal interactivity in visual novels, its a matter of taste I guess.
>>4269234>consistently gives resultsMost of it are delusional ramblings though.
>>4269236That's a you thing then, but the entire set-up here was that you said it has to be a game screenshot because "tradition". Just say what you actually think next time.
>>4269238I don't know what anon you are talking about. I'm talking about the anon who always acts really annoyed when giving people detailed lists of games they ask for. It's like... yeah, rude, but you get what you want.
The problem with posting yuri fanart of a non-yuri game as the opening image is that it goes against the thread's very topic. The thread is to discuss yuri games, not yuri fanart or fanfics of het games.
>>4269242Yeah, just like we don't talk about subtext games that aren't yuri games, because there is no actual yuri in them right?It seems like some people here conveniently swing one way or the other whenever they feel like.
>>4269239> you said it has to be a game screenshot because "tradition"I said traditionally it was art from yuri games, which would cover the promo art and merch you talked about. I didn't say screenshots. It's possible fanart happened more often than I remember, it just seems like it wasn't the normal tradition. Tradition isn't the same as rule, I don't get to make the rules obviously. It just felt weird to me that you said:> The OP pic is a yuri ship. Yuri fanart is always on topic in every thread.which seemed to imply that random yuri fanart having nothing to do with yuri games was normal, which it isn't. That's all.
>>4269245Subtext games are every bit as bad and shouldn't be discussed here either, just like the unironic F/SN discussion on this very thread that somehow was allowed and encouraged by both anons and mods. It's the yuri game thread, not the subtext thread or the googles thread. Sometimes I feel that the yuri game thread became a thread for /v/ refugees to discuss the games they can't discuss on their shithole so they use the flimsiest excuses.
>>4269240I'm acting "annoyed" because it's always the same shit. Randos too lazy to just slap the damn tag into vndb. You can't tell me it takes you more rthan 2 minutes to find VNs with fucking multiple routes without getting spoonfed. I still share because the fuck is the point of just complaining, but I don't have to be happy about it.
>>4269245>Yeah, just like we don't talk about subtext games that aren't yuri games, because there is no actual yuri in them right?Depending on one's definition of subtext this is absolutely true, many ship-tease games are chased out of here or have to have their own threads.
>>4269250And you could simply not reply and let them wallow on their ignorance.You're enabling them.
>>4269246>which seemed to imply that random yuri fanart having nothing to do with yuri games was normalYou really have to intentionally act obtuse to misinterpret what I said that badly. Obviously the OP pic should actually relate to the thread its for. In this case I just don't agree that it matters what game it's from as long as the art is yuri. Although before you say anything, I don't think "yuri" CGs from like a het threesome or the like count. I'm not retarded.
>>4269249>>4269251Where were you when the idiots claimed all subtext is yuri and belongs here? C'mon. The double standards are killing me.
>>4269250It’s almost like people find some value in getting personal recommendations from real people they can ask questions to or something.
I'm going to commission some fanart of the ninja girl and the magician girl from Nioh 1 and use it for the next thread.Those two characters never interact on the game and the closest that game has to romance is het on those cases, but as >>4269253 says it should be fine as long as the image is yuri.
>>4269240It's called being tsundere...
>>4269255Well whoop-de-fucking-doo, then that anon should ask for recommendations and not lead with "Boo-hoo there are NO yuri VNs with multiple routes at all. How can there be none? Tell me if there are any at all!"Don't give me that.
>>4269255Personally I value more recommendations from people in a yuri game thread than just a tag attached to a vn... if they are recommended by someone that means they are at least worth playing...
>>4269260You sound like someone who is always menstruating, no offense, it's just funny
>>4269256You're trying really hard to pretend this is ridiculous, but I don't care at all. Go ahead and do that. It's even funnier when you waste money on a comission, but every dime used to make more yuri is well spent.
>>4269260Have you considered curating a list of yuri games instead of posting here because you obviously hate actually talking about them.
Are you guys seriously resuming this pointless argument?Subtext will never be banned from any thread, whether you like it or not.
>>4269264That's just another avenue you lazy people could use. We already have a yuri curator. Try using it next time before begging here. All I'm asking is that people do the minimal fucking effort. Search for the thing you want and actually look up some games. Then if you still feel unsure you can ask about them here. Fuck's sake.
>>4269266honestly I enjoy recommending people games, never though of it as people not putting effort...
>>4269268If you like it that's good for you. Answer the same questions over and over and over. For the rest of us, there is a reason we use curators, archives and reviews. Because the work has already been done. I'd rather discuss games people play with the people who play them than see people ask the same three questions ad infinitum.
>>4269270You don't have to answer the question just because it's in the thread. You can just, you know, not respond. Hide the post if it ruffles your feathers that much.
>>4269279A bunch of people will reply every time. If people actually left these tourists to dry or just linked them to the OP, which has basically all the tools you need already to find stuff, then it would be fine.These tourists who ask for recommendations never actually reply or come back and actually talk about the games. They just use this thread like a search engine. It sucks.
>>4269283It's literally never a problem until someone (you) makes a stink about it. So they ask and never return, that happens all the time. There have been plenty of questions and game news that were brought up once and then never followed up again. It's better to have one post asking a question and three posts providing answers than whatever this shit is going on for twenty posts.
>>4269284Fucking hypocrite.
>>4269270>I'd rather discuss games people play with the people who play themdon't lie
>>4269286You are so fucking sad. You keep projecting so much bullshit on people every time. You have no actual idea who is who and what topics are led by what people. Everything you disagree with is the same person. Everything you agree with must clearly be someone else. Same shit every thread.The way you goons act I can only assume you have never talked about a yuri game once in these threads. The rat like snivelling attitude that only exists for the next backbiting quip or retort.Maybe I get annoyed easily, but you're just here to complain or shit yourself about everything.If I didnt bring up games regularly in these threads they would be half-dead or just dumb arguments. And hell, with people like you even normal convos always go the same way. Fuck you.
>>4269288Talk to a therapist.
>>4269289As I thought, just another shitposter.
>>4269290I'm not the one losing my shit over a 4chan thread. Talk to a therapist, or a friend if you even have those.
>4269291You don't get another reply. Screw you.
>>4269288VNDB doesn't tell you everything.
>>4269288You okay? These threads really aren't some weird battleground.
>>4269294The hell has this to do with anything?>>4269296Aside form the fact that you're just shitposting and concern trolling, what do the constant deleted convos tell you? Some people, trolls, you especially, only come here to start arguments.
Either zero self-awareness or malicious intent, but I can't fathom why someone would park himself in such a remote thread to act angry at everyone aside from mental illness.
>>4269299>The hell has this to do with anything?The discussion started with someone telling someone else to use vndb.
>>4269306And this relates to the post you replied to how?
>>4269307Follow the chain.
>>4269300>surprised that the big generals on /u/ are just mental illness factoriesHalf the game threads in the catalog don't get linked in the OP because of some random petty grievance or inanity. This shit is just wading through dozens of dumb fucking arguments to find something resembling news.
>>4269200I’m not surprised considering its price, but it seems like it’ll be pretty short, I finished Junna and Karen’s path in one sitting. Honestly, nothing much especially happens but personally I enjoy butai doing butai things and enjoy them getting into the characters. Perhaps the other routes will be different but a lot of time is spent on them actually just acting out the play. Kaoruko/Maya, Claudine/Futaba and Mahiru/Nana are the route choices, though the last is locked until your first run through. Hikari didn’t appear whatsoever in Junna/Karen so that’s probably why. Nana feeling jealous about Mahiru and Junna sharing a kiss on stage was the cutest moment, though Junna gets to be cool throughout.
>>4269311>Half the game threads in the catalog don't get linked in the OP Gacha threads have their own general. The Nintendo thread is its own general. What else is there to link?
>>4269310I don't need to. Your reply has to actually relate to the post you quote, not some random part of the entire convo.
>>4269313>Kaoruko/Maya, Claudine/FutabaScandalous.
>>4269314Possibly anon thinks the anti-gacha sentiment that led to demanding they make their own general is a petty grievance, which it kind of was, but I think they're happier without us
>>4269326I'm happeier without them, because gacha were dead weight. There is a gacha thread for everything, so there was never any point to discussing it here. The gacha general is literally always dead.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3110760/Alabaster_Dawn/The new game from the CrossCode people got a steam page. CC was pretty gay and there's a female protagonist again this time, so looks promising.
>>4269338Wow.You can almost smell the pretentiousness.
>>4269339From this isometric top down chibi action game...? Someone's jumpy.
>>4269339Wait, what? It's just an action RPG.
>>4269231>playing as a girl who has several possible female love interests that you can choose is somehow hetRetarded. Girl x Girl is always yuri. What?. You know het kinetic novels exist, right?. You know het traditional romance with a single love interest exists, right? Is all of yuri magically het because het also does it? Or does it only apply to multi-route VNs for some convoluted reason?
>>4269237To be fair, LNs don't have OSTs or voices. But I can see how kinentic VNs can feel like LNs and why you can prefer some form of choice and interactivity
>>4269344You really missed that point by a country mile. It's about the attitude.
>>4269347There's no point. It's nonsense. Girl x Girl is yuri ."attitude" what? You sound like the crypto ffm het retard who claims the scene of Utena being a voyeur to Loco and Leber's first time in MahoAko is some form of het or something because convoluted logic. All forms of girl x girl is yuri and that includes stuff you hate like: loveless voyeurism exclusively for lust purposes, or a girl MC having several possible love interests (all female, of course) in a VN or gameThere's no valid logic to say any form of girl x girl is het
>>4269339>western game with nice graphics so you can't say that everyone is a tranny or that it has "tumblr art" >uh, its pretentious!
>>4269348Wow, your posts are painful to look at. I am sure you made some kind of point but I actually just can't push through the visual thorn bush. Let's just agree to disagree... whatever you disagreed with.
>>4269348It comes from those who either believe True Yuri is pure and destined and never horny or shallow (therefore being able to pick between girls is not proper yuri because it's no longer true pure love) or those who simultaneously believe that being able to choose love interests means the PC is just a self-insert AND all gamers are male, therefore the PC becomes a cryptomale, therefore it's not yuri.
>>4269349Look, it's the schizo again
>>4269350So you think some forms of girl x girl are het if you don’t like them because “attitude” nonsense? You’re a retard who doean’t belong here. You hate yuri.Real yuri fans admit all girl x girl stuff is yuri, even if they hate it
>>4269357Again, I am sure you made some kind of point, but around the time you used the words "crypto ffm het retard" I lost all possible respect for you as a human being and can never regain it. My deepest apologies.
>>4268532You know that wasn't gonna happen unless they insert a female Sensei in the anime ala pop team epic. It would make the show canonically yuri since a lot of the students are interested in Sensei romantically and if Koreans and Indonesians see Hina fluster over a woman, they will riotAlso where is the design for that Sensei?
>>4269338>A (planned) 30-60 hours of playtime await you in this massive adventure, with 7 unique areas and many secrets to uncover. Rebuild settlements, establish trade routes and advance science by helping people. Each new advancement will be accompanied by the settlements changing visually, opening up new paths and opportunities!Sounds nice but for substance yuri? I doubt it.Gonna play it like I'm gonna play SW Outlaws but I don't expect any kind of yuri from both sadly.
>>4269357>Real yuri fans admit all girl x girl stuff is yuri, even if they hate itOvary pinching
>>4269364That does kinda makes it sound like an ubisoft style #content game, but the devs are good at slotting stories into what sounds like just pure gameplay.
>>4269200>>4269313I also just played the first route, so far I'm left questioning what the point of it all was, it obviously suffers from focusing on a big cast of characters whose arcs are already done and cannot get new ones because the game takes place before the latest piece of media, so it just kind of awkwardly rethreads developments we've already seen before.The yuri was also pretty much non-existent since they focused on off-pairing duos, the only concrete sign being that exchange with Nana that the other anon mentioned.If someone told me this was an event story for the gacha I'd believe him.There's obviously something in store for the last locked route and Hikari, but given what I've seen so far my expectations are at their lowest.
>>4269338I heard Cross Code wasn't yuri.
>>4269216Lady in Mystery (translation is pretty jank though)
>>4269380Well you heard wrong. The most developed character dynamic by a long shot is the protag plus this french girl she meets early on, there's a major story arc that's basically entirely about the obligatory yuri misunderstandings arc. That being said I'd still hesitate to call it a yuri game straight up since there's an hour or two of story for every 15 hours of gameplay. But still.
Of all the things to emulate from the Mario games, Kitsune Tails really decided to go nuts with the water levels, huh.
>>4269387It's all subtext. At the end of the day Emilie could just really value Lea as a friend. Even the two guys who live together, share a cat, and went on vacation together once aren't ever explicitly called gay or act as if they're in any sort of relationship other than being roommates.I mean yeah it's pretty much beating you over the head at that point, but it's still left open to interpretation, so you can't definitively call it gay or yuri or whatever.
>>4269390I think 'actually they're just really good friends' is actually a more torturous interpretation than oh yeah it's a romantic/crush thing. But I agree it's not confirmed either way.
>>4267609Question on Sakurai Dungeon. Is there any NSFW stuff in it or is it just lewd outfits?
>>4269388aquariums are an important part of yuri, after all.
>>4269396>Sakurai Dungeonwtf? let him out of thereits fairly nsfw
I dont know how accurate this is but I'm a little more optimistic about Taash as a romance option again
>>4269362>Also where is the design for that Sensei?Here
>>4269359So you're really the retard who was trying to say MahoAko was het somehow because loveless voyeurism exclusively for lust purposes is somehow "het"?I myself lost all respect for you as a human when you tried to claim girl x girl stories can be het because attitude nonsense
>>4269371Seems my suspicions may be right about this being some filler fanservice (not in the sexual meaning, but in the meaning of being done for fans who want some more time with the cast and stuff),
>>4269400Thanks anon. And I'll see if I can get Sakurai out of the Yuri dungeon.
So I only pop in every once in a while to see what's going on in the world of yuri games, and while going through the previous two threads I saw some questions regarding what Full Chorus added to Kindred Spirits that I think I can answer, although I imagine the anon that was initially asking about it has found out for himself by now since it was a month ago.To start with, the base game was never converted into an all-ages version. It was brought up that people who had bought the game before Full Chorus released might have kept the "original" version of the game with ero scenes, but that would've never worked on Steam, due to automatic updates and the fact Full Chorus was released as DLC rather than a separate product. The minute MangaGamer pushed an All Ages update to remove the ero scenes, it would've affected everyone (on Steam) who had it unless they turned off updates. And then there would be angry posts on the forums. Additionally, a quick check on SteamDB shows only one Game ID for Kindred Spirits, so they obviously didn't take the route or delisting the original and uploading a new all ages version, in which case those people already owning the game would've had to buy it again before buying Full Chorus. There'd be angry posts about that as well. So that's debunked. There's no way it could have happened without some evidence of it happening. And there is none.1/2
>>4269461So what does Full Chorus actually add? Exactly as advertised. The game becomes fully voiced, new CGs were added, along with VA commentaries. That's it. No new scenes, ero or otherwise. But how many CGs? Three, not including variations, but if you want to get autistic, then 17. Three new ones and their variations plus the five in-game advertisements for the Drama CDs and MangaGamer's other releases. They're technically CGs.On top of that, a handful of existing base game CGs (and one BG) were touched up to improve shading or alter the lighting, as well as Youka's concert CG being used to create a new animated sequence. It's really easy to find all this out because the base game and Full Chorus are pretty much kept completely separate in the game files, so you can extract them separately and compare. Attached image shows some of those comparisons.Thank you for reading this tourist's personal blog.2/2
>>4269461iirc it was also ported to renpy which would have been a big improvement over trying to run the original with wine. Ended up having to borrow a windows pc to play it because I could never get it to stop crashing on loading a save.
>>4269461>>4269462Could it have varied by country at all?
>>4269461Wait so...what did add the ero scenes?
>>4269588The game shipped that way. It was pretty infamous for being one of the first ero games on Steam.
>>4269409Oh wow, that's a million times more interesting lookingEven if there would be no resulting yuri, she's more visually appealing
>>4269505Y'know what, that's something I completely forgot about. And it leads me to something else I forgot about: branches. Sure enough, the original version of the base game is available to anyone who bought it, at least on Steam. I don't think MangaGamer and GOG purchasers have that option. But what I said before still applies. If the game had been converted to all ages, this wouldn't be a way for early adopters to keep a version of the base game that still contained ero scenes, because it would simply be available to everyone. Plus, branches are meant more for testing betas or uploading special compatibility versions of a game, which also sometimes includes old versions. You'd still see a lot of forum posts on it. And we don't.It's probably worth noting that the Japanese version never did the DLC thing. Full Chorus is it's own self-contained package, still running in that original engine that from what I understand is a Liarsoft custom engine. MangaGamer, for whatever reason, chose to release Full Chorus as a DLC instead, and ported the game to Renpy in order to do so.>>4269533I mean, I guess? The game only had official releases in Japanese and English. I wouldn't see much point in altering the game for other countries if you're not also going to go ahead and release the game in that country's language.>>4269588I apologize if I wasn't clear. I can be scatterbrained at times. One of the reasons why I don't usually post when I stop in. The original base game has ero scenes, and this has never changed. It's always been there.
>>4269533No, and there's no point in doing it in the first place. If the country is against seeing high schoolers' nipples in a Steam game, then repackaging the CGs into a separate DLCs that's still sold on Steam wouldn't make any difference. There's this weird thing with Full Chorus being marked "Adult Only" while the base game isn't, but whatever caused it, it's not MG putting all the nipples in the DLC.Funnily enough, marking it as AO actually made it restricted in China and Germany.
>>4269404Please stop obssessing over writers and other bullshit like that. These are joined projects and stuff gets mandated or beta tested and changed. You can't just say "this person wrote something good before, so everything they write will be good" or the inverse.Just... play the game when it comes out and find out.
>>4269410You are one hell of a schizo, I will give you that. The fact that this is your conclusion from my posts speaks volumes at your inability to use your three braincells.
>>4269461>>4269462Quite autistic levels of detail. Cool.Full Chorus is still blocked in all countries that block porn while the original is not. I think it's obvious why people would think that the original got an All Ages update then.
>>4269657I mean you absolutely can get a good idea of how a character is going to be written from what their writer has written before. At the very least in Taash's case she's written by the head writer.
>>4269668Writers are not consistent and often try new things. Especially if things get mandated by the higher ups.
>>4269658The schizo is anyone like you or the other guy who claims some form of girl x girl is somehow het because "attitude" or some other convoluted nonsense
>>4269697Againl you are very brain damaged. I will only correct you once and then ignore you for the rest of your sad existence: Nobody said it is het. You absolute retard. Nobody has said the yuri VN is het. Get it into your tiny lizard brain. Nobody is saiyng girl x girl is het. You freak of nature. Got it?The attitude and mindset of the PLAYER was called het because they approach yuri VNs like a het dating sim. I know you won't get it, you barely can write a coherent sentence after all, but this is the most effort I will spare you.
>>4269706>someone who wants girl x girl stories has "het attitude" because het also does itHet also does action. Any yuri with fights is now "het attitude" or what??You're the freak of nature. There's no het atittude or mindset in anyone seeking girl x girl stories. You associate multi-route with "het dating sims" but that's you being an absolute retard. Kill yourself. And stop associating yuri you don't like or it's fans with "het mindset" or whatever
>>4269706>The attitude and mindset of the PLAYER was called hetRight. It's very heterosexual for a female player to date girls.
>>4269735It doesnt matter what sex the player is, that will never matter. Yuri is not about (You). Nothing about (You) will ever be relevant. Women self-inserting is just as disgusting as men doing it. Not to mention that everyone here is anonymous and any fat basement dwelling male can pretend to he a woman. Self-insert shit is not actual yuri. The entire point is that the story does not properly react to the player's sex or any traits so that they can self-insert. If everything is 100% exchangable between a male and female player, then it is obviously not made to be yuri. This mostly just applies to shit where you select the sex of the player character like a check mark, but even outside of that your logic is flawed on every level.I have seen retards of your caliber claim that it's gay if a lesbian plays a het dating sim, because the lesbian is pursuing girls in the game. Do you not see the level of brain damaged this line of thinking reaches? Oh this male protatg self-insert game is now yuri, because the real life player is a woman! Bullshit!And to a lesser degree this also happens in the reverse. A bunch of dudes playing a self-insert slapping the "female" tag on and then basically just playing a het waifu farming simulator with the thin veneer of "It's yuri because I picked female, even if the game never acknowledges it lol". That's how we get all the disgusting waifu talks in these threads where people go on about wanting to marry that character or fuck that character or going on about how she is not hot enough for them etc. This whole way of thinking is so anti-yuri it makes me sick.
>>4269741So if a lesbian playing a het game doesn't make it yuri, then a yuri game or VN about a female MC (not pick your gender. But an actual female main charater) who can choose several girls to romance is not het regardless of who plays it and has no het mindset, attitude or whatever
>liptripmeh>himitsu no kissmeh>sacrament no Juunikyuumehi really need good yurige with a good build up, like sono hanabira
>>4269706Schizo
>>4269741>The entire point is that the story does not properly react to the player's sex or any traits so that they can self-insert.Wait I thought you said that the player's traits didn't matter because it should be all about the character? You're confusing me now.> If everything is 100% exchangable between a male and female player, then it is obviously not made to be yuri.Most computer games are not aware whether the person playing them is male or female. Flowers does not suddenly change itself when a man plays it vs a woman. So I can only assume that you're now talking about bioware games or something in which the player can create either a male or female character and have the same or similar romance? Yes, many people do not consider that "real yuri", especially if there are no variations in the routes based on character traits (though many games DO have variations). But those clearly aren't real het, either.Also, I'm not sure when and where you segued from "yuri-only games with multiple routes" to "games where you can choose the protagonist's gender and there's no variation" because those are separate subjects.So, to clarify.Do you believe that yuri games such as Nurse Love Addiction in which you play a female character and can choose between multiple female love interests represent a "het mindset"?
>>4269757This clown really thinks porn is a goal. Just play normal romance VNs.
>>4269761>you are confusing meOf course, because you are trying to be confused.I meant the player CHARACTER's traits.>most computer games are not aware who is playing themSkip. Same mistake on your end. I was talking about the player character.
>>4269706>The attitude and mindset of the PLAYER was called het because they approach yuri VNs like a het dating sim.So you're just an autistic sperglord.Naruhodo.
>>4269775You did not answer the clarifying question.Do you believe that yuri games such as Nurse Love Addiction in which you play a female character and can choose between multiple female love interests represent a "het mindset"?
>>4269809No you moron, it's not about the actual yuri games, as I have already said before.
>>4269815Then what is it about and why does it matter?. Is it your headcanon about the player's motivations. Even when the person who asked already said here >>4269237 they simply want some form of interactivity or otherwise anon finds them too similar to LNs (which they have a backlog to choose from already)?You just want to throw shit at people for no good reason
>>4269826Interactivitiy in VNs has nothing to do with having a bunch of heroines. Fatal Twelve doesnt need 10 love interests to have choices and outcomes.Also, you dishonest piece of garbage, that clarification came after my initial comment.
>>4269830And after they clarified you kept going about "het mindset" nonsense and trying to defend the idea that people who seek girl x girl are secretly hetfags or whatever because it's the kind of girl x girl you don't like (multiple possible love interests)If these people had a "het mindset" or wanted het, why wouldn't they read a het VN? Why would they seek yuri specifically?. You make 0 sense
>>4269602Unfortunately asian companies always kowtow to incel sperglord sectors of fandoms
>>4269893Because many of these gacha pander to them are made for them, are made by people with similar mindset and are kept alive by them. No one else will waste shittons of their money gambling for waifus. And they depend on these sperglord whales to keep going, Only a few can be free of these shackles, by becoming ultra-popular (but that also means the closest yuri they'll ever have is playersexual shit or vague subtext because that kind of popularity is achieved by pandering to many groups in a shallow way without committing to any specific group, because commitment could drive one or several of the many groups away) or by being specifically yuri with only a female MC from the start (so nothing of the vague faceless no design MC (Blue Archive, Azur Lane), or pick your gender (Fate Grand Order). But an MC that is clearly and explicitly female with no male options
>>4269659>why people would think>peopleLast time, it was one person who then doubled down and got aggressively defensive when told they were wrong. I don't think this confusion as widespread as you make it out to be.>in all countriesAll two of them.
>>4269830>Fatal Twelve doesnt need 10 love interestsand here you are back to an actual yuri game again and implying that it would somehow be less yuri if it had more love interests
>>4269390>Even the two guys who live together, share a cat, and went on vacation together once aren't ever explicitly called gay or act as if they're in any sort of relationship other than being roommates.One of them tosses an "I love you" to the other in the DLC, so they're confirmed gay.
>>4270139Trannyshit doesn't belong here. Even your backhanded recommendation here is off-topic. The fact that you go on about all the BL shit you read and want yuri to replicate just doubles down on how much you don't belong here.
>I wish I could talk about this garbage here>I wish I could recommend this garbage here>recommends and talks about this garbage here anyway
>>4269958That anon is right, though. Fatal Twelve doesn't need 10 love interests, it needs 12. The title must be indicative!
>>4270450yuri version of that zodiac dating otome game
I don't care if it totally upends all of MWZ's plot and retcons the story I hope Grey rescues her girlfriend Maxis from the Dark Aether in BO6 so they can raise their CIA test tube daughter together in the 90s and have to deal with raising a child in the middle of Pokemania.
>>4270493>Call of Duty>anything resembling a lesbian romanceYou need mental help.
I’m hoping Misericorde vol 2 has yuri since the cast is 95% nuns and it would feel like a waste if it didn’t.
>>4270522The dev said it would get there eventually iirc
>>4270450Half of the participants are dudes though.
The newest CoG game (The Ghost and the Golem) is pretty damn good. I've been burnt out by the latest games by them so this was a pleasant surprise.
the elan tease
>>4270603With Ebi-Hime writing too
>>4270597I really wouldn't read everything that comes out on CoG. Maybe try to focus on specific authors like you normally would with books. CoG games aren't some big series of equal quality writers.So rather than just vaguely saying it's good, can't you elaborate what you liked about it? Feels like I'm talking to a newbie at a book club.>>4270603They need to stop teasing 20 things and just release the stuff they showed off already.
Hoping fields of Mistria gets mods soon
>>4270956Instead of mods you should hope for the full release. Mods in early access where things can change every day are the worst.
>>4270597It looks okay, at least a step above the usual interactive fiction drivel. Sadly, my latent antisemitism prevents me from fully enjoying it.Also, it's hard to top The Book of Hungry Names. That one even had TWO female ROs, if you can believe it.
>>4270976Antisemitism humor is /pol/ shit. Keep it out of here.BoHN is definitely one of the best CYOA's in recent years, so the comparison is a bit unfair. Though I wouldn't say romance is what elevated it. In that regard I'd even recommend Wayhaven or Fallen Hero over it.
>>4270956I haven’t played it yet, what does it need mods for? I thought you could be a girl and romance any of the girls that are romanceable.
>>4270980The EA version isn't even up to proper romance yet, let alone marriage. But yes, in theory the full game will allow same sex romance and marriage.
>>4270984Oh lel, didn’t realize that. Glad I didn’t start playing yet, that’s way too early for me to be buying a game.
>>4270980The character I liked turned out to be a guy and not a butch
>>4271022I bet I know which one you're talking about, there are butch women in that game so I thought the same thing. Their armor makes a pretty clear boob bump, but for some reason they're a guy.
>>4271023Nope, the idiot you are replying to thought March was a woman. In fact several idiots here thought that and were really self-satisfied about calling him a tomboy legend.Please understand, some people here can't telle a woman from a man.
>>4270977>discuss 19th century Jewish oppression fairytale on internet basket weaving forum>scoff at the lightest jab in the worldSure, whatever. I just can't take it seriously when it uses shit like "goyish shouting" unironically. And then when questioned on it, takes a full page to lecture the reader on why it's actually a totally appropriate term to use when the unwashed polish peasants get a bit too rowdy. It's just funny to me.Putting that aside, I'd agree on the romance side of things. I was just comparing it to the latest CoG release worth a damn when talking about /u/ related stuff. HG works tend to have higher highs and lower lows on that front, but they also don't have the funds to hire professional editors, so most of the time when I get to the crucial romance scene with the one token female RO, the game can't even tell my character is a girl and starts describing "her broad shoulders" or some shit like that. FH and Wayhaven are complete outliers here, since they actually take the time to write out the lesbian stuff and make it completely distinct from the het route. I've seen some recent HG WIPs do this too, and they're the only reason I still bother to sift through that garbage pile, even if most of them stay in forever limbo and are never finished. For example, I'd rec Shattered Eagle for what's there of the Empress route. I know I'm scraping for crumbs, but it's what I have to do to sustain myself until Revelations fully comes out in 2038.
>>4271030I don't care about your excuses. Flapping your mouth about your irrelevant anti-semitism is not on topic.>one token female ROAre you sane? 90% of all CoG games either feature selectable gender for all love interests or have a majority female love interests. Even if you meant to say token lesbian, that's still fairly stupid as there are plenty, especially with the aforemention gender select stories.>broad shoulders>this is completely impossible for female charactersAny more sagely wisdom?Romance is rarely done in an interesting way in these, because there are too many factors. Generic descriptions are the norm. If you wanted something that has pre-chosen character sexes and "proper" lesbians then you knew that it's niche. Try "If It Please The Court" or something.
>>4271036I think there's been a breakdown in communication here. I don't even consider the selectable gender shit that swaps the gender variable from [him] to [her] /u/ at all. If you enjoy them, that's fine. I read them and skim through the worst of them too. But if they don't even take the effort to write out separate stuff for the lesbian romance scenes, then it's a waste of time, and they're only including it as an option because they have a gun pointed at their head in the form of CoG publishing guidelines. Of course, HG works aren't bound by them so they sometimes drop the mask and don't even include a lesbian option (like I, the Forgotten One), which is a whole separate issue.>have a majority female love interestsOkay, let's look at Fallen Hero as an example. There's Ortega (one of the few selectable gender RO done well), Lady Argent (female RO), Mortum (tranny shit), Steel (male RO), and Herald (male RO). As you can see, if you choose to make Ortega a man (like most readers do), you'll have a majority of male romances. I don't think I'm talking nonsense when I say there's a bias towards male ROs in IF in general, as the target audience for these are mostly straight women.
>>4271060>takes a single game as an example, one of the few that has a bunch of unchangable gender LIs>Mortum = trannyshit despite the fact that you can select their gender>if you choose to make a selectable character a man, which literally nobody on /u/ would ever do, my argument would only sound half as hollow!I can see you really thought this through... Are you seriously retarded enough to think "most readers would pick men according to my made up statistics" was a winning argument? In that case you can just claim that all CoGs with selectable genders are actually male MCs with all male love interests. I guess the point of the word "choice" eludes you.Half the damn CoG games are the usual male harem fantasy shit or waifu games, so obviously they are not all aimed at a het female audience. Female LIs are extremely common.
>>4271079>half the damn CoG games are the usual male harem fantasy shit or waifu games>male harem fantasyOkay. I understand. Now, I need you to go look at the code of all the CoG and HG games with selectable gender ROs you have in storage. Look for their introductory scenes. And then you'll see all of them are written with some variation of [he/him]. And then you will realize that the average straight male isn't the target audience these authors have in mind when writing these books. That is all.
>>4270980>what does it need mods for?little icons in the item descriptions that let you know which villager likes that gift, so that I don't disappoint Valen by getting her the wrong salad. But in case I DO disappoint her, there should be a mod that lets her hook up with Juniper.Also there better be seasonal outfits for Priestess once she becomes a full character
>>4271099Fucking laughable. When such a huge chunk of these are clearly written with a male protagonist in mind. But embarrass yourself further with making up shit based on the most unreliable evidence.
>>4271099>And then you'll see all of them are written with some variation of [he/him].oh no! coders writing flexible pronouns used the pronoun with the most distinctive cases in order to prevent errors in the way that possessive-her and objective-her might! how dare they
>>4271102You are wrong. When people in their online IF communities discuss and make memes about the Wayhaven ROs, they refer to their male versions. When people talk about Ortega, they talk about his beard. Kill yourself.>>4271113Yeah, they could be doing that, true. Or, get this—they're just writing male characters with a flimsy gender switch so that the CoG editors don't reject their drafts for violating their design guidelines.
>>4271120>no evidence>anecdotes>trust meI am starting to think (You) are the one who wants everyone to be male.
>>4271133>more delusional headcanonsSure, drooling retard. Whatever you say. Let me just get back to enjoying the plethora of "male harem fantasy games" that my favorite publishing house Choice of Games apparently releases on a regular basis. The very same one that has an inclusivity clause on every part of their strict design guidelines. Retard.Again, kill yourself.
>>4271136>makes claims about how everything is secretly written with male love interests in mind>somehow incapable of understanding that things can be written with a male harem in mindI sure love how you treat this inclusivity clause like a bad thing. Almost like you wished every character was canonically male, which is why you keep saying that's how it is. Are you sure you didn't take a wrong turn when trying to go to /y/?While you try to find your main board the rest of us will enjoy all the female love interests and female MC CoGs.
>>4271025>were really self-satisfied about calling him a tomboy legend.Tomboy fans are braindead morons
>>4270986Yeah, I'd say it's best to wait because the game is just scratching the surface of the relationships, and you can't even personally meet the "secret" romance option yet. Plus the devs have said that they won't raise the price once its out of EA, so there's no harm in waiting. what's there is good though. the characters are really charming, and after talking to them multiple times a day all throughout the first two months I've barely seen any dialogue repeat. So I'm excited for the full release.
>>4271149>Are you sure you didn't take a wrong turn when trying to go to /y/?
>>4271240I was in a farming mood but since this is so incomplete what game should I play instead?I'm familiar with Story of Seasons and Runefactory, what else is there that is decently fun and has yuri?The only one I can remember from recent times is Harvestella but if my memory serves right there's no real romance there.
>>4271337There's a massive glut of farming games on Steam lately that usually have some amount of romance in them. Do you have any more specifics in your preference?
>>4271337Song of the Prairie is getting good reviews, and has f/f romance (but hasn't gotten up to marriage yet apparently). Coral Island is actually complete now, and I've read good things about it. Sun Haven doesn't appeal to me personally, but it might scratch that fantasy farming itch.If you check previous threads I know that its a question that gets asked pretty often, I'm just blanking on what recommendations I've seen. Like >>4271339 said, there's tons of farming games out there, tons of youtubers that review them, and it's pretty rare that they don't have yuri romances these days. Only the rune factory remakes are fumbling it.
>>4271240>I've barely seen any dialogue repeat.Damn, that’s real good! I’ve been playing a farming sim type game myself and the dialogue repeats a fuckton. What is there is good, but it makes romancing my wife feel a little empty when she says the exact same thing to me all day.
>>4271339>>4271343Most of all I'd like a finished game, preferably with some effort on the romance front, more so than generic text with swapped male/female pronouns.I'll look through the games on Steam on my own time (I honestly didn't know it was so popular), but if anyone has played something particularly outstanding compared to the heaps of titles only trying to cash in on the latest trend I'd like to hear it; I'll keep the ones you've already mentioned in mind
I might have found my new favorite western yuri visual novel. I will report back in two hours to confirm.
>>4271348If you want a farming game where the girls actually have different dialogue for girls then you basically have like... a few spots in Stardew Valley and the Friends of Mineral Town remake.I will say that Fields of Mistria is something to keep an eye on, I've been having plenty of fun with the farming, mine exploration, and what progress I've made with the characters.
>>4271373I will definitely keep an eye on it, the EA message tentatively says it will be a year before full release and if they flesh out romances sooner than that I'll give it a try then.
>>4271352Well it had multiple explicit sex scenes between a biological woman and a robot with a female body at least but I can’t recommend it.
>>4271389Well now you gotta tell us what was wrong with it.
>>4271434Robot girl is revealed to be a male who wanted to be a girl in her past life and their brain is transplanted into a robot girl body without her memories to be kept as a sex slave basically.
>>4271458Fuck. Name and shame
>>4271348>preferably with some effort on the romance front, more so than generic text with swapped male/female pronounsThen you picked the wrong genre.
>>4271458You really need to stop reading trash and check tags first.
>>4271352>>4271458>western yuri visual novelYou only have yourself to blame.
>>4271479Bullshit. Japanese porn games are full of unavoidable hetshit and futa or tentacle stuff all the time. A story about sex slaves will always be terrible, no matter where it comes from.
>>4271458classic
She may be a disgusting bislut, but the mom's relentless shipping is a breeze of fresh air.
I did NOT expect that chapter 2 is from Kiri's perspective or that she has an entirely new moveset (like a constant sword). Seeing alternate version of the old levels is also cool.
>>4271483Being a sex slave to a menhera older lady scientist is hot though.
>>4271558But the whole 'previously a man' thing is bad
>>4271543Kiri is a dork.
>>4271559It gets iffy because you can argue Korrasami is a het ship because Korra’s previous reincarnation was a male. I just see two pussies colliding and that enough to be yuri to me.
>>4271579Stop being a fucking retard. Male brain, male mind, male. Not debatable. You are the worst type of outsider with a lesbian fetish who couldn't give less of a shit beyond if you can jerk off to it.
>>4271579You can argue that any lesbian ship is a het ship because the girls had dads. This is how you sound.
>>4271580I agree that comparing it to Korra is nonsense because the 'reincarnation' has nothing to do with who Korra is as a person, the Avatars are clearly different people with different personalities.I didn't play the game in question so I don't know. If it's the actual living male brain transplanted into an android body then that's clearly a trans thing. If it's an uploaded mind digital image that was then edited and put in a new body, at that point it sounds more like a bizarre ritual taboo to insist it's still somehow intrinsically male. It's not really male or female at that point, the biology is gone.
>>4271458Tell us which game, I have a robot/human game in my backlog I haven’t played yet and you’ve made me nervous about that
>Caper in the Castro (1989) is the first known LGBT video game. The player assumes the role of a lesbian detective investigating the disappearance of a drag queen in the Castro neighborhood of San Francisco. The game was distributed by BBS, with donations requested "to an AIDS-related charity of your choice for whatever amount you feel is appropriate".Anyone played this?
>>4271602Just because a lesbian is in it doesn't make it relevant. I also doubt it's the first.Someone did bring up the McDyke detective games before though.
>>4271602Kind of neat but yeah not very relevant, doesn’t have any yuri in it.
https://archive.org/details/ghost-princess-under-the-gravenew translation patch for random old free yuri game
Opinion on this game?https://gg8473.itch.io/walk-in-the-sun
>>4271775While it's nice to see a translation for anything yuri, this is the Japanese equivalent of one of those 2 week yuri jam VNs. I'm honestly surprised anybody bothered.>>4271790Don't expect anyone to have played random 20 minute game jam titles. How about you play it and then tell us if it's worth it?
>>4271934It's probably good practice for somebody getting started in translation.
Kiri is really easy mode. Her moveset is unbelievably broken. I don't know why you play her second. So you feel better on the second run?Anyway, Akko is such a slut. She will flirt with any kitsune girl.
>>4272569Kiri is a dork.
Alright I beat the game (except the insane Kaizo bonus levels). They telegraphed the outcome so heavily that I can't call it a twist, but I call BS. They wanna portray it like Akko is asexual or something, but she has blushed repeatedly during romantic implications. So I guess she is just not interested in relationships but still attracted to girls?Akko and Kiri getting together after talking like 4 times is so rushed and stupid, but what do I expect from a freaking platformer story? It's just weird how Kiri has been crushing on Yuzu since childhood and Akko at least spent an entire year with Yuzu to get to that point. But now it takes 4 conversations. Guess when you are desperate enough for a rebound you'll find it.Unless the Kaizo levels have more story, it's pretty lame that the main villain just kinda walks away. But again, platformer game. It was at least well designed. My only complaint for the gameplay is how slippery landing from a jump is and how Kiri is just objectively better to play to the point where none of her power ups have any purpose. I bet you could speedrun really well with her moveset.
>>4272580>Akko asexualTypo. I meant Yuzu.
>>4272580Kiri is a dork.
>>4272569>>4272580Kiri's like the Zero of the game I guess. The whole point is it's a power fantasy that feels cool to play as.
>play game for the yuri>stay for the loreEvery time
>>4272723Augh I still need to finish hard mode
>>4272723It's how Signalis got me.
>>4272723>>4272735>>4272741For me it's the other way round. Well, actually it's...>play game for the yuri>stay for the yuri>lore is a nice bonus
>>4272741This too!
>>4272723Basically switch "reading" with "playing".Or:>Play game>ignore everything>imagine yuri
>>4272723The only question that matters here is if this game you posted is actually yuri. Because if it is what I think it is, then it's not.
>>4272773NTA but I like void stranger and it's not a yuri game, it has lesbians/bi/whatever characters but not really yuri.
>>4272773My bad
>>4272778It's primarily a puzzle game, but the story that's there is unquestionably yuri, since it's entirely centered on a woman diving into hell to save the girl she loves. And the game makes it clear that yes it's romantic love and not just a duty thing. I don't like the child plot twist either but I see it as an easy way for the devs to introduce the second character.
>>4272741I played Signalis the day it released, so it was surprise yuri for me. Was really surprised when they straight up smooched in that one cutscene.
>>4272783It's not yuri. It's a mother/daughter thing and NOT in an incesty way. All love in that game is platonic. Please stop being delusional.
>>4269200 it contains some small epilogue for the movie hykari and karen reunite after karen´s audition from the very last movie scene.
>>4267609>http://store.steampowered.com/curator/6864182-Hella-Yuri/Elden Ring?There's no lesbian romance or couples in that game.
>>4273057You can marry that blue bitch in one of the endings. 1 minute cutscene at the end of 40hr game is enough for some people.
>>4273057It was hugely popular on this thread for months
>>4273068Made worse by the fact that it has canon yaoi but not yuri.
>>4273117That's a stretch. Some dumbass soulsfags just hijacked here and acted like this pittance of yuri was actually relevant, but nobody really cared. It's just a footnote in history.
I finished Revue Starlight El Dorado. There's quite a bit to go over.>The good- Amemiya and Masai get upgraded from literal whos to main characters and receive a ton of relationship development. They even get possibly the gayest scene in the series so far with them exchanging the rings they designed for the play while pledging their lives to each other as they decide to start a theater company as soon as they graduate- There are very nice interactions between pairs who didn't do much together in the show or movie such as Karen/Junna and Nana/Mahiru. There are still quite a few interactions between the established pairs such as Nana getting jealous of the kiss scene between Junna and Mahiru in Junna's version of the play or Futaba and Kaoruko getting embarrassed about the kiss scene between the two of them in Futaba's version- The play itself is pretty entertaining and finishing the game unlocks a mode where you can put any character in any role and watch it in full, including scenes cut or trimmed down in the main story- The ending video is a full-on animated short of the girls meeting again some time after the end of the movie and it's beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvqoUvR2Jt8>The bad- Very low production values. Sprites aren't animated, CGs are few and sometimes repeated with heads swapped and it lacks the spectacle of the series and movie. The voice acting can't pick up all the slack by itself- The structure is extremely repetitive. There is one choice at the start for which pair plays the main roles in the play and each route develops roughly the same way, with the play itself taking the second half of each route and being 90% the same just with different characters in different roles- The Kaoruko/Maya route feels like an afterthought to me. They have very surface-level interactions and it feels like they just recycled the Junna/Karen route.Verdict: don't bother if you're not already a fan, check it out if you are.
>>4273142And who would have thought, still not yuri. We determined that a week ago.
>>4273117Soulsfags believe that the entire universe revolves around them so they hijack any videogame-related discussion anywhere to wank over their shit.
Does this have any yuri at all?https://vndb.org/v19011
>>4273189>no girl x girl romance tagI woooonder.
>>4273193Lacking a tag isn't necessarily meaningful but in this case the game has plenty of other tags and has clearly been played a lot so probably would have been tagged if it were there.>>4273189 you can set your vndb account to highlight yuri tags on games which will make them more visible if they exist. Can be helpful.
>>4273206>Lacking a tag isn't necessarily meaningful>except in this context where it is meaningfulNo shit Sherlock. This is a game with individual charater tags. Someone gave a shit about this indie game and still didn't add the girl x girl tag. That's why it's obvious it has no yuri.Also girl x girl romance tags in a game with yuri are nearly universally expected. This is not some case of people not tagging it like lesbian protagonist.If the girl x girl part is so minor that nobody thinks its worth adding then it clearly didn't matter.
>>4273193What is the point in responding to the question when you don't have the answer?
>>4273220The answer was in the link you yourself provided, moron.
>>4273225>you yourselfA swing and a miss, bud. And as you have been already told, user-managed database entries for only partially translated niche games are not a reliable source of information.
>>4273227Saying I missed when you failed this fucking hard is hilarious.
>>4273227It's better than NO source of information.
>>4273220imouto-chan, i'm sorry you failed fifth-grade reading comprehension, so I will provide the helpful breakdown. that person was not replying to say that she did not have the answer, she was presenting an answer through implication: the game is not tagged for yuri, therefore it does not contain yuri.As has been pointed out, this answer is overly simplified and should have also included the information that it is a game that has been tagged by multiple people and therefore the lack of tag is more meaningful. A game that has no player votes and no tags or only a couple of tags from one person does not rule out the possibility of untagged yuri. A well-tagged game makes it highly unlikely.
>>4273658There's a Signalis thread.
>>4273663okay and?
>>4273658I still gotta play this one of these days. I think I've quite literally heard nothing but good things.
>>4273672Go there.
>>4273134>>4273163Nah, kill yourself faggot. Elden Ring is beloved here except for you: the rule breaking parasite who keeps getting banned
Elden Cringe does not belong here
>>4273672go in the dark
https://twitter.com/FGC_Daily/status/1824454148387115350>no males>some specials are gay as fuckjust need a story mode with plenty of subtext or outright yuri and this will be GOTY 202forever
>>4273882Looking cute desu
>>4273882Idk, it looks somewhat stiff or clunky and feels off. I love the special, tho. Shame we couldn't see all of them.
>>4273895for a small team on an alpha build, looks interesting, the slowmo on every move is weird though, also maining notBaiser
>>4273896>slowmoYeah, that was the thing that threw me off, too.I wanna see what the scared looking maid does to the big boobie princess.
Hey anons there's a deal going on with humble bundle where they've got like both pathfinder titles and bg1&2 and torment, is it a decent bundle for /u/ content?
It kinda sucks the team cpu left this game half finished and deleted it off the internet.
>>4274074BG1 and 2 have pretty slim pickings without mods and torment is explicitly a hetero story, but the pathfinder games are good stuff.
>>4274078Oooh okay are there a lot of mods for 1&2 or is it not really worth it?
>>4274074BG1 is useless for yuri without mods and even with them there isn't much good stuff. BG2's Enhanced Edition added a lesbian vampire love interest, but that's the only option in a game where you can get dozens of shallow party members, so mods it is.In general BG1&2 are very clunky and old. I can't actually recommend these to anyone who isn't willing to suffer through ancient unpolished gameplay. BG3 these ain't.Pathfinder Kingmaker and WoTR both have several f/f romance options, but Kingmaker's are kinda worse and more limited. In general I suggest skipping Kingmaker.>>4274080There were hundreds upon hundreds of fan made modules and companions mods back in the day. A lot of those were lost to time, but many still exist in some form. And new ones were also made.Some user in the Hella Yuri forums made a list of yuri mods for BG 1 & 2:https://steamcommunity.com/groups/hellayuri/discussions/0/1692659769955188551/I havent tried them myself, so I can't vouch for anything. Go to Nexusmods and you will probably find more.
>>4274113Oh okay, thank you. I'll just wait for a good sale for wotr then! I appreciate your help!
>>4274117You really have bad timing. It had an amazing sale just two weeks ago. Though to be honest, you can just pirate it and then buy it anyway if it comes out on sale in case you liked it.
>>4274119I might do that. I like playing a lot of these games on my steam deck which is why I buy them, it's not impossible to pirate on steam deck but it's a pain
>>4274127With how many games there are, it's just sensible to test them out before you spend money. I do think all of these games are worth the money though.
>>4274129Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about it too! I know that it doesn't have the budget of BG3 but after playing a lot of BG3 I wanna dip my toes into some other crpgs that have yuri romance options!!
>>4273882Why are her booty shorts more booty than shorts?
>>4274144Because fetishes don't care about style or anatomy. This is a coomer game, not something with actual artistic direction.
>>4273142>The ending video is a full-on animated short of the girls meeting again some time after the end of the movieSeriously, they get the chance to finally fix the movie ending, and instead they make the couples see each other for a weekend and then back to spending the entire rest of their time apart, this is 10 times worse than Painting Lies.The tv series having such good yuri vibes was a fluke, seems like the only silver lining is Amemiya x Masai, the one pair that escaped separation.
>>4274161>the couples see each other for a weekendThey didn't even do much of anything, you could tell the distance between them has only grown, it reminded me of the Yuru Camp movie, such a downer.But that's how most nips think of subtext pairings, they'll get their high school chapter of fake romance that doesn't really count, before they graduate and become ordinary adults that don't think much of it (and will eventually get husbands).
>>4274161>>4274165It's attrocious. And you will find people on /u/ defending this "subtext" garbage every time. Talking about the anime mind you, at least nobody here seriously believed the VN was on topic.A scenario where even actually kisses mean shit all because it's just acting. Theater really was the best pick for these subtext peddling yuribait studios.
>>4274161They weren't going to put meaningful progress to the main story in a tie-in VN. If they're ever going to do a story with the girls back together, it will be in another season or movie.
>>4274153>oomerThe word you're looking is "fanservice". No need for that "oomer" shit here.
>>4274199Are you dyslexic or is there another reason you can't see Cs?
>>4274201Look, just try to refrain from using any of "oomer" variants here.Maintaining board culture is a team effort and we all have to do our part.
>>4274188>another season or movieWith the gacha dying and this game being just a glorified fandisc?Pretty sure the series is as good as dead, and it's probably for the best considering the progression it's had.
>>4274203Has nothing to do with board culture. If you think coomerbait games belong here that's a bigger sign you don't understand /u/.
>>4274207>coomerbait gamesFanservice games.
>>4274169>For the yuri audience there is no difference between subtext, explicitness and yuribait>Subtext / yuribait allows your product to still be attractive to non-yuri audiences, making it vastly more profitable. Subtext is where the industry will move in a few years and actual explicit yuri will go extinct.
>>4274217Kill yourself already. I am so fucking done with your doomposting bullshit you retard. Before the yuri game/anime boom subtext was literally all there was. Yuri VNs also didnt use to be common either. Yuri audiences absolutely care about real yuri vs. subtext which is why all levels of yuri media have become more explicit.Making some retarded manifesto about how all things will become subtext, when all things used to be subtext and we are actually moving away from it shows a lack of brain matter that is honestly disgusting.Subtext anime, subtext in games, subtext in manga were always common, are common and will always be common. There is no increase it's just how the fucking industry works you autism plagued cavetroll.
>>4274217Pretty sure making VNs will soon be super cheap with evolved AI art, writing and voices, I actually foresee more niche and passion projects being made than ever before, though of course you'll have to dig into a big steaming pile of junk to find them.
>>4274221Yuri bait was definitely always common, but yuri subtext as we know it today is a pretty modern compromise.
>>4274221>Yuri audiences absolutely care about real yuri vs. subtextThey don't. Otherwise we wouldn't be discussing Revue Starlight or Elden Ring on this thread. >yuri media have become more explicit.Allowing media creators to discover that explicitness brings diminishing returns. We'll see less and less explicit yuri media because it simply isn't worth the trouble from both a creative and business standpoint.
>>4274224No it's not. Gay subtext in games, manga, shows and all other levels of media has always been a thing and it's not a new fucking invention you dumbass. This proves what newfags run around here, not even know basic shit like Tomoyo from Cardcaptor Sakura or other ancient gay-coded girls or implied romantic interests between girls.What the fuck do you thinki NanoFate is? One of the most foundational yuri ships in history is ultimately just subtext.
>>4274226Kill yourself. It's obvious you are a shitposter now. I can smell these /v/ and /a/ troll arguments from a mile away.
>>4274231>basic shit like Tomoyo from Cardcaptor SakuraAnon, that's not subtext, it's unrequited love.>What the fuck do you thinki NanoFate is?Excellent example, since NanoFate became a thing by accident at first, and contributed to shaping modern yuri subtext since it wasn't a well defined concept at the time.Yuru Yuri is another important piece of history on that.
>>4274232NTA but he's right about the trends of the industry, although I can't see VNs taking that turn since they've never been big with the mainstream audience to begin with, and I doubt a couple small subtext productions like painting lies or starlight will change much.Gachas are probably the closest compromise between VNs and games that the general public could digest.
>>4274239Considering that the "trends of the industry" have been a massive increase in the amount of explicit yuri in the past twenty years, how is she right?It used to be there was no yuri at all, or just barely-there read-between-the-lines stuff. Now we have some actual yuri, we have some stupid shippable subtext nonsense, and we have some cute girls doing cute things. It's fine for all of these to exist, but important to support the actual yuri.
>>4274234>unrequited loveThere are plenty of old-school fans of that show who can write you an essay as to why that ship had real potential and subtext. Not my problem.>shaped subtextIt's literally older than you. Subtext has been a thing before and since you retard. You are aware that the manga industry has only existed since the 80s? How much further back do I need to go with manga and anime to show subtext was always part of the damn medium?Before that we had Class S, before that we had implied lesbian romance in Western novels. Before that we had implied lesbians in mythology. It. Has. Always. Existed.>>4274239>he is right about the trendsNo he is fucking not. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. If you want to pretend that the industry is moving away from yuri and towards subtext you would actually need the industry to have been fully yuri to begin with. Gacha? Fucking GACHA? You absolute toolbag, 99% of all gacha have always had subtext at most since the beginning. Yet in recent years we got a bunch of gacha with more explicit yuri. It's the exact opposite of your claim.Painting Lies is not fucking subtext and neither are there more subtext VNs.We have dozens of games with explicit yuri every year and they just get more numerous.Last year we had the most yuri anime in history. A fucking mainstream anime like Gundam had a yuri main coupel and was super successful. Get your ass out of here you hobby soothsayer.
>>4274243>massive increase in the amount of explicit yuri in the past twenty yearsThe anime industry has failed to deliver a single maintext yuri anime original besides GWitch (which was still restrained) within the last decade, and the game industry is still just taking baby steps outside of VNs.Manga is definitely in a better place though, but even there there's hardly any big productions that commit to the yuri.
>>4274246>originalsMaking up hurdles so you don't sound wrong is a sign of desperation. Adaptations are the most common type of anime. Just admit that there are a lot of yuri anime these days.>game industry is taking baby stepsWho cares? You keep deflecting. There are a lot of yuri games these days. And a lot more games that give you the option to play a lesbian.>manga>big productionsThe fuck does that even mean? There are plenty of yuri manga that penetrate the mainstream one way or another these days and there are a lot more yuri manga in general. That's all you need for a niche genre.Not a single thing you say has any point.
>>4274245>that ship had real potential and subtextAnon, it's not called subtext if it's explicit, the ship having potential has nothing to do with ambiguity.And since you sound confused about the past of yuri as a whole, I recommend you this read:https://d-nb.info/1197701850/34Though something about the way you post is telling me that you may not have the attention span required to go through it, but it's worth a shot.Peace.
>>4274250>explicitLast time I checked Sakura's feelings for Tomoyo were not explicitely romantic. Which makes the interpretation of such requited feelings between them subtext. Your intentionally dishonest argumentation style proves you have no interest in actually having a conversation.>please read my university dissertation, surely that will convince youOne idiot citing another idiot's opinion and actually thinking that makes it fact is the height of clownshit.
>>4274252>Sakura's feelings for TomoyoSo you're talking about yuri bait, which I already acknowledged has always been a thing.>too many wordsWell, you didn't betray my expectations at least.If you're ever able to get over yourself and feel like learning something about the history of yuri, do give it a shot.As for me, I'm done humoring you for today.
>>4274257>yuribaitSo you don't know what terms mean? Amazing, I kinda figured.>throws a hissift because an opinion isn't treated as fact just because it is 180 pages longLike I said, clownshit.It's even funnier, because I know more about the history of yuri as a medium than you ever will, despite reading your little opinion piece.
>>4274169>>4274165>>4274161>>4274205Kill yourselves, hetshittersGet husbands? seriously?. Stop posting hetre how much you want the girls to get dicked
>>4274248>adaptationsOh right. Shit like Sasakoi, WataOshi or WataYuri that doesn't look better than your average medicore generic isekaishit adaptation and sells like utter crap. Wow so much progress for yuri animeSasakoi's even worse because it skips shit including yuri scenes such as the first kiss of the main pairl, such great times for yuri anime indeed
>>4274268Why did you quote 3 people when you are only upset about one? It's just objective fact that it's subext garbage that goes nowhere because they all split up by the end of the anime.
>>4274269Who cares? Moving goalposts and cherrypicking is all you can do? So basic.
>>4274272It's subtext kino and dooming about muh separations is shit hetfags do to push their idea that their het and want their dicks. The physical separaion is irrelevant in the modern internet age
>>4274275I mean, if you're satisified with shows that are on the same tier than mediocre isekaishit adaptations, that's fine. But yuri deserves moreCompare meanwhile to subtext like Symphogear, Lyco, Jelly, GBC, Revue Starlight itself. Much better productions with better staffs putting actual effort. If you want to celebrate maintext adaptations, I'd like them to start getting decent staffs and productions
>>4274279You're in need of euthanasia.
>>4274284I don't care about your opinion. Until you have something to counter my factual statement I'll ignore you from now on.
>>4274205There's whatever this will turn out to be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezv4BkcuaMA"Wi(l)d screen Circus" has the same formatting as the movie's subtitle "Wi(l)d screen Baroque", so possibly another movie.
>>4274246GWitch itself proved that it was a bad idea business-wise: yuri fans won't stick to the Gundam franchise and Gundam fans got alienated, resulting on one of the most hated Gundam shows since AGE. It's pretty telling that /m/ of all places disowned GWitch.
>>4274340Go to the Gundam thread with your lies and get destroyed. Nobody gives a shit what a 4chan board thinks though. The numbers do not support you. And yuri had nothing to do with the sane complaints the show got. Only retarded incels like you would care.
>>4274340>one of the most hated Gundam shows since AGE.And one of the best selling.>/m/ of all places disowned GWitch.Only because of the yuri content in it. Had Suletta or Miorine been male, or Guel or Elan end up "winning", they would've liked it.
>>4274340Is this a pasta or do you just come here like once a month to randomly argue the exact same thing
>>4274357It's a shitposter. You should have realized this from the entire made up topic of yuri somehow backfiring and the industry abandoning it when all numbers say the opposite.
Good news dissapointed tomboy fans, someone is already working on a mod to make March from Fields of Mistria into a girl.
>>4274451>literally making a tranny modWow, so people who can't comprehend the differences between women and dudes are now just going to do GB shit? You fuckers need an intervention. Pick an actual woman.
>>4274454Pick some meds, nigger
>>4274451So you want us to be happy cause someone will make a mod for mediocre game where a guy gonna be changed to be a tomboy?Damn your standards are so low it hurts.Hard pass on such shit.Just play it or not how the devs intended than using fake shit to feel good about it.
>>4274289What factual statement?
Game has few other actually designed female love interest for femMC if wanted, no lets change the gender of a guy to be a girl so we could romance him instead.Weird logic.
>>4274469Wish you hadn't taken a hard pass on English classes.
>>4274472oh no, someone somewhere is playing a game in a way that i don't like, this somehow ruins my day even though it doesn't even slightly affect the way i play the game>>4274469I'm pretty sure that poster didn't mean for you to be happy, they thought it was funny.
>>4274451This is the same as romancing a trans person. Not for me, but you do you.
>>4274469Why do you talk like that person obsessed with little goodie two shoes
>>4274451Nice. Although, it's a pity we so often have to fall back on mods.Don't know why butch/tomboy /u/ is so comparatively rare. Oh, well.>>4274454>>4274469>>4274472>>4274495You should go see a doctor about that stick stuck up you rear.
If this visual novel was ever completed and the girl x girl romance tag was added, it would instantly shoot to the top 5 highest rated yuri vns in the databasehttps://vndb.org/v31533The episode 2 ending file name is titled yuri.mp4. It’s a damn tragedy the developer deleted it.
>>4274451>>4274485>>4274586It's one thing to make a straight romance option gay with a mod, it's entirely different to turn males into women. The latter is not yuri in any way and also presupposes that you found the male attractive and just want to ease your conscience by slapping the female tag on him.So the only one who needs a shrink are you hetshitters. If you need to lie to yourself only do it to yourself and don't bring this GB/tranny shit into a yuri thread. You're no better than those hetshitters who turned Dame Aylin from BG3 into a man so they wouldn't have to see a lesbian couple in their game.
>>4274748>It's one thing to make a straight romance option gay with a mod>You're no better than those hetshitters who turned Dame Aylin from BG3 into a manKind of sounds like you're contradicting yourself here. If a girl turns a character into a girl so their NPCs can have yuri romance, that literally is not trans stuff. Do you really need to see a character's pussy on-screen to know it's there? It's just genderbend, which has existed for a long time without anyone crying about trans. And genderbend for making things gay is objectively better than whatever hetshitters do.
>>4274750Turning a man into a woman is trannyshit. GB is just trannyshit with extra steps. The dick is not required for a male turning female to be a tranny.
>>4274750Also you conveniently ignored the whole part about how you have to be attracted to a male to come up with this retarded idea to turn him into a woman. The entire reason this is done is because people found him hot and can't admit it, so they pretend he is a woman now.
>>4274750Just admitt you actually don't like yuri cause the game provides such options for you and you just want to see MtF pseudo persona in this game for some strange reasoning and we can have peace here with your agenda and similiar trans loving people like you.
>>4274748>>4274751>>4274752>>4274753Oh, put a cork in it. It's no different from the Stardew Valley mod that turn the bachelors into bachelorettes.
>>4274759And you thought this was an argument for your side? It's the same shit, yes. And it's bad in both cases. l'll tell you something, the only case where making a female version of a character is valid is turning a male self-insert MC female, because that wasn't a real character to begin with and unlike love interests, people didn't do it because they found that self-insert hot. They basically just added the option to select your gender at the start of the game that already exists for most self-insert shit. Sel-insert garbage is barely yuri to begin with, but at least the illusion there makes minimal sense. You take an unknown, non-entity and basically flip a switch on their sheet, in the same way gay mods make straight women bisexual (something that in most cases could just be canon and we just didn't know).This on the other hand is just seeing a guy, finding him hot, realizing you can't justify this to /u/ and then making a mod to turn this guy into a physical woman so you can pretend you arent into men.It's quite easy actually. Make a new character and replace the smith. Just replace all men with new female characters for all I care. But GBing existing males? That's just trannyshit. That's just admitting you wanted to romancer these men and needed a visual shield.
>>4274759I don't remember the SV yuri modpack that was shared a few times in these threads recieving a similar vitriol in response. People are really getting too obsessed with the concept of transness
>>4274773Because there's nothing trans about it. These mods aren't giving the characters in-universe sex changes, but rather creating an AU where the characters are born as women.
>>4274780>Because there's nothing trans about it. These mods aren't giving the characters in-universe sex changes, but rather creating an AU where the characters are born as women.I can understand doing it in completely non-yuri game where you have female MC option but zero female romance options for her like in some Persona game or similair thing where you want to play it with some f/f romance in game for better enjoyment from yuri fan perspective.But doing it in a gamee which gives you already few female love interests for femMC. is completely redundant and stinks of some tranny bullshit. Makes you curious why some people want to change canon guys prepared by developers to become girls for them to romance here where it isn't needed at all to enjoy yuri romance in-game.It is weird apporach as hell.
>>4274780I will say it again, these people wanted to romance the dude. They just turned him into a woman to justify it to themselves. It's an entirely different approach. It would have been less obvious it was a completely conversion mod that makes all males into women.
>>4274808I know nothing about the game in question but certainly with the one or two games where I legitimately thought a character in the early marketing was a hot princely girl until discovering it was apparently supposed to be a man, I did not want to "romance the dude", I wanted to romance the character that I thought it was from the beginning, the woman who apparently never existed.I've never gone to the effort of making or finding a mod to make that happen because obviously when I found out the main character wasn't a girl I didn't buy those games to begin with, but if one fell into my lap that rewrote the world to throw out the official character and replace it so that it was the character I'd imagined, this would by definition have nothing to do with the "dude" character.This is all such a nothing burger typical of this thread. Gotta find more reasons to hate and complain how problematic everyone else is. Don't you ever get tired of yourself?
>>4274819It was already explained to you that there is a difference between some self-insert protag getting genderflipped and a love interest geting a sex change. What you thought was attractive about said character was obviously male, at least in this case it was fucking obvious. So you can pretend you just liked the imaginary girl in your head all you want, but if they were as obvious as this, you just might like dudes.Which is fine... as long as you don't bring it here. Consider the intention, not just the end result.
>>4274808>It would have been less obvious it was a completely conversion mod that makes all males into women.It's one of the first mods for a early access game. Portrait edits for a single character are probably the best you can ask at this point.
>>4274822Honey I'm bisexual I have zero problem with saying I want to romance a dude when I want to romance a dude. When I say I wanted to romance a princely woman, that's exactly what I meant.Again, not talking about whichever game people are getting bent out of shape about here and now, just on the general principle. If you truly mistook someone for an attractive butch, wanting to have the butch that you thought existed is not the same as wanting to have the dude.
>>4274832Nobody cares, your bisluttery doesnt matter here. Only yuri does. You liking dudes and thus not caring which it is doesnt actually support your argument.
>>4274759Or the feMC mod for Persona 3
>>4274873That's based on an existing femC you dumbass.
>>4274732Am I missing something? This looks like the "ironically bad" slop that zoomers obsess over.
Should I play Crymachina or Blue Reflection: Second Light first. Which is better?
>>4274914Crymachina is full yuri, Blue Reflection has one yuri side couple and a shitty mobile sequel that turns everyone into some guy's harem. Neither have very good gameplay. Just go with Crymachina first and then blue reflection if you can pretend the mobile game don't exist.
>>4274917That shitty gacha is dead and cant be played, so it is completely irrelevant now. It also didnt have all of the girls from SL in it. It really doesn't matter, because nothing in that shitty gacha ever got far enough to affect anything.
>>4274914Crymachina and it’s not even close
>>4274913It’s not irony, it’s schizo.
>>4274914Machina
>>4267610Everlasting Flowers looks good but I hope its not super fucking short like Lilja and Natuska.
This vn was pretty cute. Relatable loser mc and her himejoshi friend trying to set her up. Anyone played it?
>>4275388Fool me, fool me, go on and fool me.
Speaking of Everlasting Flowers, the devs mentioned in a blog post that they were worried about the game's potential success due to the shift in style from their previous ones, but revealed they already broke even just from the first of the two rounds of preorders they've done.
>>4275488Did they say how long it’s going to be? Because I’m not paying $23 for something that’s 10 hours long. The story has to be fucking amazing for me to do that.
>>4275565>Lara is also Mexican nowWhat? This is getting more confusing by the second.
>>4275565Correct me if I'm wrong but I've seen discussion about Lara having always been intended to be hispanic to some extent.I do agree about it being stupid to not just use existing characters for better purpose but Netflix has always kind of sucked about that.
>>4275574>Correct me if I'm wrong but I've seen discussion about Lara having always been intended to be hispanic to some extent.Sort of. Early in development of TR1 she was originally called Laura Cruz and was from South American.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliZKRpxRjc
>>4275569There are lots of Mexican people whose last name is 'Croft' and were born in Britain.
>>4275587That constellation is confusing but I always thought Lara being a british cunt was way better. At least from a lore perspective around the "English" peeps. With all the historical stuff they pocketed.
>>4275601>I always thought Lara being a british cunt was way betterBecause she is.
>>4275601She can be a british cunt of mexican descent.
>a certain new game hit 1+ million players alreadyI dream of the day an unabashedly Yuri/Lesbian game reach this number>>4275725It's a shoop, watch the trailer she says something about worrying for Lara making the same mistakes
>>4275566>23 bucks is too much for 10 hours!Bitch that's like two movie tickets and a soda these days. At least you have 5 times the content compared to a movie and own the damn VN.If you are such a little bitch just pirate it.
>>4275754>own the damn VNPlatform ToS disagree.
Can the live2d shit in Usonatsu be turned off?
>>4275758Get it physically then. Also as long as you dont delete your digital copy it cant be taken from you.
>>4275831>Also as long as you dont delete your digital copy it cant be taken from youDRM sometimes says otherwise.
>>4275863Shut up already. This isnt a general topic, we are talking about this particular VN. It wont have fucking DRM. I swear idiots reply just to say something, no matter how vapid.
>Start pathfinder kingmakerIs it really true that the only lesbian companion romance is the fucking DLC character? do I really have to get that ?
>>4275918Well, you can also romance the game's villain. That's about it unless you're interested in a bisexual half-elf (female) who's in an open relationship with a bisexual half-orc (male) for most of the game.WotR is better if you just want /u/ content, though Kingmaker is a fun game outside of that.
>>4275918>>4275920In the weirdest choice by a dev ever, the secret ending which adds basically a chapter's worth of content is also locked behind romancing said villainess. So yeah, that's kind of a no brainer. You will undoubtedly need a guide though.
>>4275923>the secret ending which adds basically a chapter's worth of content is also locked behind romancing said villainessIt isn't. It's locked behind taking the steps to study the curse and redeem her (as well as some arbitrary skill checks that, at least when I played it, could silently fail and fuck you over), but the romance isn't necessary.
>>4275924Actually, no. I checked (god bless the autistic wiki with every quest outcome and flag noted down), and studying the curse and redemption attempts are only necessary for the romance. The final chapter basically happens every time, unless you choose to let the villain go. Even killing her doesn't let you skip that chapter.
Anyone playing Dustborn? How's the /u/ content?
Anything even slightly worthwhile looking shown at Gamescom yet?
>>4275967is there any? i thought the romance option is an enby
>>4275989I just quickly scanned over some X trailers and Altered Alma looks to be interesting on the chance that you can forge relationships with females too. Which I have no idea if that is possible or planned so excuse my lack of insider knowledge if that isn't the case. It looks promising tho.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SdoOhdm0iM
>>4276325Looking cute.
>>4276325>2d pixel metroidvania no. 347893478923478932478934978324The indie videogame industry is as creatively bankrupt as the AAA industry
>>4276338Keep your /v/isms away from this board shit for brains. All that matters is that we are getting more yuri games.
>>4276338Lemme check something. Ah yes, the other 347893478923478932478934978323 Medroidvanias also had the potential of yuri in them. My mistake. How could I forget!Seriously, sis? Your standards are a bit high.
>>4276356That idiot's standards arent high. It's prime /v/tardation. They always have to complain about AAA games and popular genres. Otherwise they cant buttfuck each other in infantile rage.As long as the game is yuri and good it doesnt matter what genre. But that scumfucker doent care about yuri.
>>4276325I hate when pixel art games have smooth anti-aliased text fonts! Be consistent!!That aside, I'm not a big fan of neon cyber punk aesthetics so I'll just wait and see what /u/ has to say about it when they play it.
>>4276356To be fair, the last 2D cyberpunk Metroidvania with hand drawn art and yuri elements that we got wasn't very good.
The official twitter has called the vn yuri so now volume 2 has to deliver nglhttps://x.com/misericordevn/status/1826407374334427207
>>4276437Did you even play it? I highly doubt you can actually tell whether it was good or not.
Okay, so last time I said I would be finishing WotR, but then I found out that the Inevitable Excess DLC actually takes place 5 minutes before the final boss fight... weirdest placement I have ever experienced. So I had to save in front of the final boss and go to the DLC menu...Whelp, I beat it. I can't believe that Azata and Demon get unique endings nobody else can get and they are probably the coolest shit in the game (havent seen the actual ending yet though).Azata Commander just doesnt care. Break reality, transport the time prison to Elysium and exist as a copy at the same time as the real Commander. Now there are TWO commanders and Arueshalae's out there dating in Elysium. Even Anevia and Irabeth exist twice now, so I really got to spread more lesbians this time around. That's gonna be hilarious.I really liked that moment where copy Arue encouraged the Excess Commander by saying their love has already caused one impossible transcendence, so they can fix this too. Something that only actually pays off on azata. It really is the best path to romance her.Still releasing all these copies and time prisoners and even Areelu's excess into Elysium without even ascending is just so azata. The bigger the prison the stronger the power of freedom compels her to break it. Flowers, rainbows and fuck your laws of the universe.
>>4276744Bitch, I own it. And I don't recommend it.
>>4276356I didn't know that being interested on yuri games means that you aren't allowed to criticize the videogame industry.
>>4277026Hm, my mistake. I'm not saying you can't criticize the videogame industry. You definitely can and should but keep it on /u/ standards, yes? You made a remark about the quantity. How many 2D medroids do we currently have? I mean, I get it. For you it might seem exhausting to have "another one of those" but this one might have yuri in it. Doesn't that sound nice? Think about that for a second. Think long and hard about what you are actually complaining about, sis.
>>4277026It's an unrelated topic. Nobody cares about your unfinformed half-assed /v/ opinions. If you have to critique a yuri game, actually critique the game itself. Your bullshit doesn't belong here.
>>4277031>mightGuess what? This is the key word. Until the game is confirmed to be yuri then its as off-topic for this thread as my complain.
>>4277026What relevance does the video game industry at large have to a niche topic like yuri video games? Do you also want to talk about the state of microtransactions in games, maybe discuss the recent writers' strike?
>>4277034Ah, okai. That is a valid complaint. But I can't read any of it in your previous post. For me it sounded like you you were complaining about the increase of those games in general. In my defence I said it looks promising not that it had in fact yuri in it. At this point it's speculative at best from the little things I saw and should be scrutinized for that. Well, let's hope for the best and fingers crossed then?
>>4277038>it sounded like you you were complaining about the increase of those games in general.It was, and as someone who likes videogames as a whole it's something I'm sick and tired. Especially given how we could use something that isn't a visual novel or a generic 2d pixel metroidvania. Crymachina and Samurai Maiden showed that we can get games that aren't those two generic ones. By the way I hate your condescending, pretentious and patronizing tone and it's making me very very angry. I will stop posting so you stop posting too.
The dumbass who talks about off-topic shit is offended. How precious.
>>4277058>it's making me very very angryMarvin the Martian pls.
>>4277058Crymachina and Samurai Maiden had bigger budgets, dingus.
>>4277077Those better be all letters from yuri games.
>>4277081>>4277077I: I'd guess life is strange, though I haven't played it1st S: Signalis?Y: Crymachina2nd S: Kindred Spirits
>>4277091The A is from Kitsune Tails.
>>4277093It's actually from Samurai Maiden.
>>4277148Erm, sorry sweaty
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>>4277437new thread
>>4277440>no subject field
>>4277449Wow I actually messed that up. Thanks for pointing it out.>>4277451new thread... again
Anyone know how to get these, and the secret achievements from Seraphim Slums? The developer is a kike and wants people to buy his full achievement guide + behind the scenes for their game DLC for £8.50
>>4283003*Seraphim Slum
So I wanted to get CRYMACHINA, but I came across a piece of information that I would like clarified before I get the game. I don't care if it is a major spoiler, but I want to know: What the fuck is this about one of the characters being coded as a male or something like that before becoming a human female?
>>4285142We don't talk about that.
>>4285142>>4285390It ruined the experience for me.
>>4285390>>4285616So it's true? What fucking trash then. Glad I didn't waste any money on that crap.
>>4285707There was a misunderstanding, read from here:>>4285629
>>4285713Well damn, that actually does change everything and is honestly a great relief. Thank you for the help.
>>4285763>I heard some rando say something stupid and instantly got my opinion altered without doing a single bit of research>someone equally stupid says this ruined it for them so now I must double down on calling the game abstolute trash>someone told me that it was obvious bullshit and the game nobody who finished it has ever accused of having that shit in there was actually good so now I do a total 180Anon. You are like a toddler without object permanence. Do some actual research next time and don't just believe random stupid claims.
>>4287217>do my own research>see something stupid about the game and can't find any posts disproving the claim>ask about it on a site I trust more regarding certain content>someone clears it up for me after a misunderstanding>retarded anon tells me to do my own research after doing my own research because they think asking questions isn't research
>>4287255>instantly flip-flops between shitting on a game and thinking its good based on vague and unproven statementsNothing changed. If you're gonna "research" have a more critical mind.
