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only one of these can be THE fps of 2019
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>>427295853
Even the worst Doom was a good game, Halo has always been an average series that Xbox fans memed people into thinking was good
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>>427296315
The setting, soundtrack, AI, and multiplayer experience were nowhere near average. You may not like it but there aren't any competent games that feel similar to it at all.
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If Halo Infinite has classic multiplayer on PC it's my game of the decade
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Call of Duty Unlimited
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>>427296315
weak bait
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>>427296315
>Halo has always been an average series that Xbox fans

Literally the best fucking video game trilogy ever to exist.
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>>427296315
I played all of Halo's from 1 to 4, and altought the story is some clusterfuck space opera crap that I never played even for 5 minutes, I feel great distaste for space opera as a genre, from vydia to movies and series. The made up pseudo-science names, the badly design aliens, the onedimensional characters, the lack of depth, how everythings is solved by some ex machina bullshit, every little detail about space opera narrative hustle my jimmies the multiplayer is undeniably one of the most fun in all of the fps I ever played.
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>>427295853
>Halo Infinite vs Doom Eternal
>only one of these can be THE fps of 2019
So we already know winner.
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Halo is long fucking dead, there is no chance it even comes close to being good let alone touching Doom. Halo 5 is genuinely one of the worst games ever made and 343 are utterly talentless trash. Doom Eternal wins in a landslide. This isn't even a contest.
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Depends on Infinite's multiplayer

If it's like anything past Reach it's going straight into to the trash. If it's like Reach and before it's my GOTY.
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>>427298458
>Halo 5 is one of the worst games ever made
It has better multiplayer than the majority of the franchise
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>>427295853
just watched 3 out of 7 minutes of doom eternal gameplay, repetitive, boring and difficult to read the environment
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>>427295853
Halo Infinite is a 2020 game though.
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>>427298814
Hope you didn't just watch the part that was played on controller.
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>>427298663
No. Absolutely fucking not. It is not Halo in any way and the multiplayer is AIDS.
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Why do they have to compete?
play doom for single player and halo for multi
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>>427298990
It's not amazing but still better than H4 and probably reach desu. No custom classes/killstreaks/jetpack/armor lock and it actually has a proper ranking system. Warzone is absolute trash but everything else is p good
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>>427298892
Why do they do this? It just looks so slow and boring. The nvidia kbm trailer sold the first reboot for me
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Classic Doom > Classic Halo > NuDoom >>>>>>>>>>>>> nuHalo

If Infinite is a return to form it has a chance, but Halo has been fucking up for 7 years. Fingers crossed.
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>>427297456
>>427297762
>>427297767
This

>>427296315
Go fuck yourself Doomfag, I can't wait for Halo Infinite to walk all over Doom Eternal.
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>>427298892
oh that might have been it

difficult to read the environment still stands, and maybe infinite has lots of grass like in the trailer and the first halo
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>>427298814
This
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>>427299823
Check this then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGwquN6d5sM
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Reminder that Halo CE is the best shooter campaign ever developed for console.

Reminder that Halo 3 is the best console muliplayer ever created.

Reminder that Reach is an abomination and started the decent into madness.

Reminder that Infinite will destroy the Xbox division if it isn’t classic style.
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>>427296315
>I'm a fucking faggot fuck me in the ass
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>Duke Nukem Forever
>Doom Eternal
>Halo Infinite
What did they mean by this?
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>>427297767
give me one great game instead of 3 mediocre ones. i like halo but its slightly overrated
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>>427300254
I just want halo I don't care if it's classic or nuhalo I actually liked every single halo except halo 2
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Superior FPS of 2019 coming through.
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>>427300835
fuck off
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Infinite isn't going to come out in 2019. 2020 at earliest.
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Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4 hype
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>>427300956
nuHalo sucks man. Halo 2 is the worst of the trilogy but it shits on Reach/4/5

FUCK OFF WITH THOSE SHITTY MAPS
FAST TTKS
WEAK SANDBOXES
SWEATY WIN BUTTONS
MICROTRANSACTIONS
NOVEL REQUIRED STORIES

FUCK OFF
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Infinite is not launching until 2020 at the earliest.
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>>427301190
so all we can do is scream as loud as we can that we want classic Halo.

Even straight up 343 shills like HaloFollower are turning on them.
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>>427300956
This, I like Halo 2, it's not as good as Halo 1 and 3 to me but I love it still, the only Halo games I didn't like were ODST and Reach. I have my issues with Halo 4 and 5 but I still like them.
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>>427297456
>The setting, soundtrack, AI, and multiplayer experience were nowhere near average.
Yeah, they were outright awful.
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>>427301693
Do you know what average means? It has nothing to do with quality.
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>>427301526
They will have an insider program like MCC probably all next year so you can get involved with the game's insider program and play the game early while giving 343 feedback, Halo Infinite may be a return of classic Halo, they're already calling it an official classic Halo experience and going by their interviews and presentations it seems like they want to go back to the series roots and get the Halo community more involved with the game's development this time around.
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>>427300835
>Half-Life: Never
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>>427301693
cringe
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>Doomfags are still seething over Halo
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>>427299506
you have autism bro
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>>427295853
Halo for MP, doom for SP
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>>427298663
It has one of the best multiplayer offerings ever, really. Very underrated
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>>427302624
this
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>>427302207

What's there to seethe about? Halo is fucking dead now. Good riddance.
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I will be the best FPS of 2019 that normies won't be able to get into because it's "too hard".
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>>427296315
>all these zoomers getting butthurt at something which should be a completely uncontroversial opinion on /v/

what went wrong?

>>427297767
>I'm 15 years old
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>>427301893
I hope so man, Halo is my favorite franchise and it’s fucking dead.

>>427302718
stick to CoD AW if you just want sweaty, low skill, poor maps gameplay. Fuck off with that.
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>>427303198
15 years old don't know what Halo is anymore, idiot. Halo is a young boomer game now
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>>427302545
Nah lad just not a casual shitter. Back in my day fps games weren’t played on controllers.
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>>427303198
Butthurt Quaketards can suck a fat one. Not our fault that Halo was so good everyone else copied it (poorly)
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To the anon who listed E1M4 as a map with backtracking. You're wrong, the must go to route of that map has zero backtracking.
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>>427302802
You guys bring it up a lot, while we don't bring up Doom at all.
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alright, chief and doomguy need to duke it out some time
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>>427303456

If Halo was truly as good as you say everyone wouldn't be wishing shooters went back to the glory days of DOOM and Quake and modern DOOM wouldn't be as successful as it is.
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>>427303335
I'm having a good feeling Halo Infinite will finally right the ship.

>>427303456
This
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>>427299781
>Go fuck yourself Doomfag, I can't wait for Halo Infinite to walk all over Doom Eternal.
That is literaly impossible. Halo is dead. It died with Halo 3. Best Halo was Reach becouse you could actualy run. Best multiplayer was in Halo in that desert map. Rest was crap.

There is no way nu Halo can't fight nu Doom.
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Halo Infinite probably isn't gonna come out 2019.
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>>427303456
But everyone loves FPS like Wolf/Doom/Quake. Halo is pretty much the beginning of the death of FPS, Halo 3 cemented it for a time.
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>>427303621
If Halo was still as good as it should be D16M would have been a minor success.

Reguardless, even if I prefer Halo, I don’t want classic FPS to disappear like it has.

Both have a right to exist.
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>>427298253
>He doesn't like the names Forward unto Dawn or the Pillar of Autumn.
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>>427300986
not a shooter, it's a first person adventure game
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>>427301693
cringe
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>>427296315
(You)
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>>427303539
who's "we"? you and the other handful of people who still play Halo?
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Anthem will be better than both, and that still won't be saying much.
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>Battle Royale shit vs an actual game

Wow, I wonder what will be better
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>>427303845
not everyone, even if I do. Halo was not the death of FPS. The “Halo Killers” were.

>>427304415
confirmed not to be that, retard.

>>427304263
oof.
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>>427304415
>pulling shit out of my ass does not make me a monkey
Only BR I'm interested in is the battle rifle
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Remember the lead up to the launch of Doom 2016 and everyone said it looked shit but upon it's release it became a lot of peoples game of the year? Same thing's happening with Doom Eternal. I just can't trust 343 anymore, how many times have they tarnished the name of Halo at this point?
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>>427297456
>the setting
How to spot a fanboy who doesn't know about anything but halo
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>>427303584
Why do they need to fight, why couldn't they just team up and kill aliens and demons together?
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>>427303750
>Best Halo was Reach becouse you could actualy run
You really don't have an opinion when it comes to Halo, you should shut the fuck up.
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>ITT: PC fatties STILL assblasted that they cant play Halo 3
Lmao
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>>427304695
Ringworld, Covenant ships, UNSC ships, Flood infested areas are all great.
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>>427295853
Is this even a debate?
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>>427303750
cringe incarnate.

>advocation of sprint
>thinks blood gulch is the best because poor PCfat could only get that map
>Halo Reach not second worst
>Halo 3 not the pinnacle
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>>427296315
>All these replies
Goddamn the reddit plague is real
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>>427304250
Someone sounds bitter.

>>427304564
>not everyone, even if I do. Halo was not the death of FPS. The “Halo Killers” were.
This
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>>427305030
If Halo is done right nuDoom doesn’t stand a chance.

So really the debate is if Halo is going to be good again.
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>>427295853
>We live in a world where Doom is more popular than Halo
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>>427304813
This, holy shit

>>427304912
Also, this
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>Halo done by 343
lmao you people can't be serious
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>>427305252
I have a really good feeling 343 got this time.
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>>427304708
my favorite video game mascot can beat up your favorite video game mascot!
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doom 2016 was a technical masterpiece

doom 2019 is going to be an amazing piece of tech
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>>427305325
Halo 4 campaign was great and Halo 5 MP was great then just need a game that does both great
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Can't we just get along?
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>>427296315
first post best post
/thread
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>>427305357
They just fired the composer at 343 and Marty is openly chomping at the bit.

They have the Halo 2 map guy on deck, we just need good gameplay.
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>>427295853
>even considering gaylo long dead and buried edition
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>>427305579
This, going by Halo Infinite's trailer and all of their interviews and presentations from last year to now, I feel 343 finally understand what Halo is. That is what Halo 4 and 5's problems were, 343 didn't really understand what Halo was.
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>>427305786
Yup, Halo Infinite is already sounding like it's going to be great, I wonder if Joe Staten will help Paul Crocker with the story.
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>>427305579
Wrong on both counts. 4’s campaign had two good levels and decent environments but an ABYSMAL story and shitty new enemies. 5’s multiplayer is ass compared to old Halo, completely different game with more of a CoD sensibility of quick TTK.
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>>427305698
I wish but Doomfags are PCfags and since Halo is a console game, they hate us.

>>427305461
Chief can flip over 60 tons like it's nothing, he would crush Doomguy.
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>>427296315
this, halo is a floaty auto-aim for brainlets consolekeks
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>>427295853
If Halo comes out on PC and they nail the controls, then I'm gonna go with Halo having more potential, especially for competitive multiplayer. This could easily be the most popular FPS of the year. If it's Doom on PC vs Halo on xbox then Doom will be better. Using inferior controls for FPS games is not something I can overlook.
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>>427305579
>halo 4 campaign was great
no, no it was not.
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>>427306083
cringe
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>>427306083
>>427305723
>suddenly the replies change
LOL WHAT
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>>427306239
5 made it look good by comparison
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>>427298253

Halo lore is fucking cool
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>>427306237
Halo is meant for console, aside from the perfect controls (pre 4), the energy recharge, two weapon limit and sandbox is built for console.

Halo on PC would just be BR spam: The Game because of over precision.
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>>427306471
That would be true if they don't know anything about PC gaming, but I'm assuming they'll account for that when developing it for both platforms from the ground up.
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>>427295853
Halo is going to regain the crown of undisputed vidya king
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>>427306729
According to normalfags
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>>427306616
then it wouldn’t be Halo.
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Is it better to be infinite or eternal?
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>>427306775
I disagree with the premise that the balance cannot be tuned to work on PC and still have many of the features the series is known for. It's just a matter of how good their game designers are in this area.
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>>427298663
>>427302718
This is true. I've recently come back to Halo 5 because I bought a 1X and I'm amazed at how much fun I'm having. Warzone Firefight might be my favourite horde mode of all time. And at 4K/60.
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>>427304263
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>>427307130
Oh i’m not saying it wouldn’t be good, it just wouldn’t be Halo.
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>>427307247
Fuck off.
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>>427307290
Even if that were true, I don't care. I just want a good new fps, it's been a long time.
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Why not play both?
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>>427307407
Why? Feeling triggered, faggot?
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>>427305257
Where?
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>>427295853
lol i'm still gonna play Overwatch cause y'all bad at it
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>>427307614
no :) the numbers speak for themselves and Halo 5’s systems are as dead as 4’s.

Enjoy your Advanced Warfare clone.
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>>427295853
I can't see how Halo can be made Great Again at this point. 4 and 5 were absolute abortions. The story is shit, the environments are shit, and the enemies are fucking boring. It's never, ever been fun to fight robots.
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>>427303456
>Not our fault that CoD was so good everyone else copied it
>Not our fault that Overwatch was so good everyone else copied it
>Not our fault that PUBG was so good everyone else copied it
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>>427307247
jesus christ who is paying you?
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>>427306751
Who are the only people that matter anymore because they've proven several times now they are far more reliable consumers. How does it feel knowing you are at the mercy of those you hate and look down on?
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>>427300986
*2020
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>>427307769
What’s worse is the last of the “Good old days” are just as bad, so you have confusion about what Good Halo actually means. Now we have 343fags who don’t want their game to change either.

Fuck em, bring back the titan.
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>>427296315
So you're saying that Halo CE and 3 are worse than nu-Doom and Doom 3?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>427296315
>>427295853

halo has been always the most popular console fps game
in PC people played better things, other fps that were better
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>>427307802
>conflating popularity trends with paradigm shifts in game design.
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>>427303621
lol nobody is wishing that, people DO wish they went back to the halo 3 days though.
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>>427307810
Oh, Bungie is. Yeah, they're paying me to come here and say things like 'I like this game mode it was fun'. They've worked out that posting positive opinions on /v/ is a really great marketing strategy, and /v/'s demographic is something they really, really want to court.

You're so brilliant, you've figured out my ruse. Well done.
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>>427308258
proof that you’re not a real Halo fan. Cringe.
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>>427308335
Well, what would you like me to say? You tell me what you think an acceptable response is.
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>>427305138
>Halo is reddit
>nuDoom isn't
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>>427308407
Get the name of the developer right in the very least Mr. Shittaste.

>these are the 5 fags trying to shill for nuHalo to continue
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>>427305252
Fuck gaylo faggot
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>>427308646
So, in other words, you're going to use anything you can to insult me because I'm enjoying Halo 5's multiplayer, and I said so.

Got it.
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If you didn't grow up playing halo 4 your childhood was shit
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>>427307632
Nobody gives a flying fuck about 343i Halo anon
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Halo infinity easy, better than the bing bing speed shit show called doom
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>>427308821
you can’t even get a basic fact that any Halo fan would know. You don’t know shit about this franchise, and your opinion is worthless. Stop.

>>427308754
fuck off.
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>>427309093
>I am enjoying this thing
>NO YOUR OPINION IS WORTHLESS FUCK OFF AND SHUT UP
>But I'm enjoying it, you see
>NO WHO CARES SHUT THE FUCK UP

I mean, you're clearly 15. You know that you're demonstrating that, right?
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Nudoomtards need to get finna boutta dabbed on t b h

Here's hoping those retards make halo great again but I doubt it. Thankfully if the 343 kids fuck up, croteam will pick up the slack.
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>>427295853
>floundering series given to a developer who has yet to make a good entry in an IP that should by all rights be printing them money
vs
>surprisingly well accepted reboot of a classic series that launched a genre
hmm...
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>>427309093
kill youself
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>>427299576
>he thinks classic Doom is better than classic Halo
Usually I’m the nostalgia fag so i get where you may be coming from but classic Doom has aged horribly play it again. I’d still put it above nuHalo but it can’t beat nuDOOM and especially can’t beat classic Halo
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>>427308923
>Halo 4
>Childhood
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>>427308928
Plebs with shit taste still exist.
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>>427309273
>>427309316
yup the Halo fanbase is cancer, stay away, don’t weigh in on forums don’t talk about us, we’re awful.
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>>427309405
>the Halo fanbase
>us
Yeah, you're a pretty intimidating secret club.
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>>427309503
yup, we’re just terrible, better not engage us with those opinions on such a cancerous franchise.
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>>427309584
Who is in the club? Is it just you, or are there other people?
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>>427295853
But most likely neither
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>>427295853
Its not going to be halo anyway, that franchise died after reach, an theres no fucking way your telling me otherwise... its fucking worthless
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>>427306729
This, I can not fucking wait for Infinite.
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>>427309719
>after Reach
>after
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>>427295853
halo is so floaty and boring. playing it after playing another new FPS is like going back to TF2 from Overwatch.
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>>427309335
> classic Doom has aged horribly play it again.
I still load up DOS Doom 1 and 2 every few weeks. Still plays fucking great. Halo feels like slow molasses ass though.
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>>427309798
This, Reach sucked, the Other M of Halo.
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Can you do it /v/?
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>>427300254
>Reminder that Halo CE is the best shooter campaign ever developed for console.

CE's campaign is plagued with asset reusee and samey mazes of hallways and empty open fields for padding, and has barely any weapon or enemy variety. It's tedious and repetitive, it has one of the worst campaigns in the series.

You know the arbiter missions in 2 everybody shits on? CE's entire campaign is like that.

>>427298663
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>>427298990
I like Halo 5's MP a lot but as a game/package it's shit since the campaign is complete trash and most importantly it has no local play.
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>>427309806
This is good bait, and I don't even like halo
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>>427310043
Halo CE campagin has non linear levels, the best story, the perfect sandbox, plenty of enemy variety, the best flood level, the best final level, the best stealth level and one of the best vehicle levels.

The only legitimate complaint you raise is reusing assets, but the reverse levels are different enough in every case but two betrayals.
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>>427310043
>most importantly
No, not 'most importantly'. Most people don't give a fuck about 'local multiplay'.
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>>427310043
>Halo 1 has the worst campaign in the series
You don't speak for all of us.
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>>427310408
Co-Op is one of the tentpoles of the Halo experience.

343 got such backlash they have preemptively promised it in every Halo game going forward.
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I hope both are good.
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>>427296315
first post best post
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>>427309910
fixed
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>>427310531
Who cares. It's a relic from 2001.
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>>427310789
A loud majority of the Halo fandom.
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>one built around aim assist controllers
>other slows down controller gameplay so console babbies can function

gee i wonder what the better FPS will be
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>>427310789
Fucking Microsoft shills dude
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>>427310789
Yeah, is that why it's returning in Halo Infinite?
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>>427310937
>faster is inherently better
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>>427311042
>I like dumbed down, slow gameplay with no real movement mechanics
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>>427295853
Leave Halo to me.
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>>427310531
>never played Halo 5 before
>decide to do it with my Halo buddy after we run through em all
>having a fucking blast through 1-3, Reach was better than I remembered now that my PURE HATE for the multiplayer subsided, even 4 was OK
>come to 5, find out it can’t be done

I was SO fucking salty.
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>only one of these will have aim assist on by default
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>>427311237
>Longer combat engagements which require far more moment to moment environmental usage and structured map control is dumbed down mechanics
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>>427295853
How about you just buy them both you poverty piece of shit.
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>>427311382
>supporting bad games

only if they turn out to be good.
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>>427296315
fpbp
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>>427297456
True, but the gunplay is still shit.
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>>427309910
>precursors as enemies
>as a good thing

This would murder the franchise, it's already a complete stretch that MC and the UNSC can fight back against Promethians and active Forerunnr warships which should logically be completely immune to anything the UNSC throw at it short of MAC's and maybe nukes, having Precursors, which some of the most OP entities in sci fi period, actually be fightable and beatable would bee laughably stupid.

For that matter, still having elites, grunts, hunters, ettc as enemies is stupid too. Jul's faction is defeated, they've run out of excuses to justify keeping the covenant as enemies. MAYBE if they bring the banished back, but honestly I think they'd make better allies then enemies, having them support the UNSC begrudgingly against Cortana's Created would make the UNSC's inevitable victory seem less contrived.

As a result, fuck your rules, Flood and Promthians only.
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>>427311580
>lorefaggotry trumping gameplay

begone.
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>>427311580
Why would default options in game engines such as AA and resolution be a resource towards development?
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>>427295853
we don't know Halo Infinite is coming out in 2019 tho
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>>427311808
because it’s a silly /hg/ chart meant to highlight what we consider important, it’s for fun.
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>>427295853
Maybe this time they don't fuck up the online portion of Doom and with the added air dash and grapple hook it could actually be good, 75% chance the multiplayer is better than Quake Champions.
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>>427303584
Screwattack already did that
Chief won
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>>427295853
Literally who?
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>>427303043
Tarkov is my worst purchase for games in the last 5 years. It's full of bad design choices, and a team that doesn't know or doesn't have the ability to fulfill a vision. .
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>>427295853
Both have way to much soi in them they are trash no matter how many awards they get, no matter how many sales they get, no matter how many ((((Good))) reviews they get we at /v/ will always know that they are shit and it will die. Me and you /v/? We are bros. we are one and we will take them down.
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>>427296315
More or less. I'd agree with them that Halo was probably better than Doom 3, but that's only because Doom 3 is average, not because Halo is great.
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>>427312192
cringe and bluepilled
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>>427311580
Banished would be a good enemy which could convert midway like in Halo 2, but this time the brutes decide to buddy up for a bit.
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>>427310353
>Halo CE campagin has non linear levels,
No, it doesn't. The "non liinear" shitt people talk about is just open combat spacees, which every halo game has, thee difference is tthat in CE they were empty as shit and felt larger as as a result, since hardware limits, whereas subsquent games actually filled their opeen spaces with complex geomettry, it's still a linear set of spaces.

The only nonlinear part of CE is thee second mission, where itt didn't maatter since all it ammounted to was choosing the order you tackled each combat zonee, which in practice meant fucking nothing other then padding by seperating them with an eempty valley with nothing in it.

>the best story,
Objectively incorrect. Maybe if you like minimalism you might enjoy it best, but it's barely got a story, has stilted dialog, etc. Subsequent games all had more narrative complexity, symbolism, and fleshed out characters.

>the perfect sandbox,
it's got one of the better ones by virtue of each weapon beeing wholly unique, but the AR and needler are ass and the magnum is too good, and there's not enough weapons.

>plenty of enemy variety,
For the vast majority of missions you only ever encounter Elites, Jackals, and Grunts. Hunters rarely. That gets old quick, especially since you only commonly encounter thee magnum, AR, plasma pistol, rifle, and needler, and as mentioned, thee environmental reuse. Everything starts to feel samey, and the flood only does so much to alleviate that.

>the best flood level
Guilty Spark is the best flood level in that it reveals them and that twist is great, but on replays it's pretty tedious and boring.

>,he best final level,
3's final mission is more or less the same shit but better.

>the best stealth level
It's impossible to sttay hidden past the fiirst 2-3 enemies you kill in T&R, it doesn't even fucking qualify as a stealth mission. All of Halo's stealth missions are like this. The least bad would probably be Nightfall in reach
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>>427312487
unstable 60? Tough call.
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>>427312718
Life is hard man...
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>>427309910
I don't get this, why would anybody put points into AA over things that actually improve the game?
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>>427311261
Halo and Doom are two different FPSs and do completely different things from one another.
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>>427310490
I said "one of the worst", not the worst.

5's is unconditionally worse, and 4's is worse due to it's dogshit story, but on a mission basis 4 is pretty much a less tedious/repetitive version of CE's campaign with much of the same ideas and concepts.
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>>427312618
There are so many things wrong with this post that I don’t even want to bother. Give me your ratings.

SP:
CE > 3 > 2 > Reach > ODST > 4 > 5

MP:
3 > CE > 2 > 5 > Reach > 4
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>>427295853

343 will have to pull off a fucking miracle to make me care about Halo anymore. Meanwhile nu-DOOM was fun as hell. I mean if 343 can do it more power to them but after two entries I'm less than impressed with their track record. Then them fucking up the multiplayer in MCC. I just don't see it panning out.
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>>427311808
>>427311580
>>427311912
900p is good enough to look good, and AA honestly isn't that important at 900p and up, itt' the first setting I disable on PC if I need to increase performance. Would you honestly rather have the jump from 900p tto 1080p at the cost of firefight, or no item limit cap for forge, or a stable 60fps? Etc.

Plus 6 i confirmed to be on PC so if you care that much just get the PC version that'll support higher reesolutions and graphical options

>>427311678
If you only care about "gameplay" then they could just change Promethean to act exactly like elites/grunts/jackals/hunters.
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halo by the cunts that weren't even able to remaster the first halo games without fucking up the multiplayer
vs
doom eternal
ok then, i think i know my answer
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>>427312869
And one is good, the other sucks.
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>>427298814
you see the console footage for the KBM one?
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>>427313083
Prometheans look bad and if they did the same thing there would be no point niot bringing back covvies.

Lorefags are cancer. 343 Lorefagged up H4s campaign and it was terrible. Bungie literally decanonized weapons and retconned species to make the game better.
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>>427304113
never gets old
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>>427313004
How about you actually explain what's wrong with it then?

I could post my rankings, but my explanation of why I think CE is the worstt campaign aside from 4 or 5 that I already gave tells you more aboutt my opinion then a simplee ranking with no explanations would.

>>427313380
>them looking bad outweighs logical consistency

It's not even a fucking issue of "lore", the fact that the Covenant broke after 3, and then Jul's faction broke after 5 is a fucking basic plot element of those games.

You might as well bring Johnson back from the dead.
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>>427313571
>you might as well bring Johnson back from the dead

THE FUCKING IRONY OF THIS POST
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>>427301693
Cringe
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>>427313280
Yeah, I know, Halo is good and Doom sucks.

>>427312971
That's still one of the worst opinions I've heard in a while.
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>>427313571
It would take too much time, from explaination of the multiple ways you can approach engagements, to the dissection of why Halo is worse than The Maw both in and out of the run.
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Halo Infinite
>will focus on Master Chief and Master Chief is the player and the player is Master Chief, this will stick around for all mainline FPS Halo games going forward
>Chief will have an AI going by Bonnie's presentation at Dice last year it may be a Cortana model but not the original
>no squad combat
>will be the most open Halo game in the series may even be open world
>a return of the classic art style and music
>an "official classic Halo experience"
>split screen and lan
>will be working heavily with the community on the game until its release
>returning to the community-friendly nature of Halo from Halo 3 while keeping the series competitive nature
>dev-made BTB maps are returning
>a new engine built for 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X
a return to the exploration of a Halo ring
>a possible return of the Flood
I think Halo is back.
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Only Americans think anything past CE was anything more than average
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>>427314975
>t. Euromutt
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>>427315145
Obsessed
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>>427315145
Whiter than you, DeQuan
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>>427315241
>>427315274
But we don't think about you here in America.
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>>427314497
>going back to CE’s campaign philosophy

As long as the story isn’t complete bogged down ass, this could be the best Halo campaign.

Give me the simple, classic multiplayer and you have GOTD.

>>427314975
PCfat detected.
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>>427314497
BLACKED
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>>427296315

I'm an Xbox player and agree with you.

>Muh MC
>Muh story
>Muh....

It's so fucking overrated.
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>>427302718
>>427307247
>>427299243
>No local multiplayer
>No online splitscreen
>No local co-op
>Microtransactions
>Bullshit like ADS, clambering, ground-pound, etc.

Its the worst in the series by default, fuck off.
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>>427297767
Halo was the only good game in the trilogy, 2 and 3 were shit
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>>427315568
You're a PCfat that's what you are.
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>>427315638
Halo 1 is the most balanced and the best Campaign by a country mile. Halo 2 had really good multiplayer, and Halo 3 has the best multiplayer out of any console shooter ever.
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>>427315568
Gearsfags don’t get an opinion.
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>>427295853
Not so fast, console scum!
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>>427315969
This
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>>427313776
explain?

>>427314452
Your loss anon, I'd be willing to read and respond to your explanations in detail even if they were like 10,000 characters long.

To be clear I don'tt think CE's campaign is bad, it's still a lot of fun and it's a greet experience (unlike, say, 5, which is just boring and not as fun even if it's less tedious), I just think it's more frustrating then most other campaigns in the series
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>>427295853
>HALO 1
actual great FPS with a long and complete campaign and great narrative
>every halo since 1
multiplayer focused wank with tacked on, unfinished campaigns that get progressively worse ala COD

even the devs said as much
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>>427317240
Not too many people defend 2 and 3’s campaign outside of a few great levels.
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>>427295853

We know nothing of Halo Infinite. DOOM Eternal is confirmed for basically being really fucking fast paced, moreso than nu-DOOM was, plus there's a Dark Souls invasion mechanic. I'm hyped as fuck.
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>>427295853
Ok it's Doom
Next
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>>427317223
Johnson was asspulled back more than once because fuck it, having him there is more fun than not.
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>>427317481
You mean in Halo 2 after CE?

Sure, I guess you can argue thattt, but I'd say there's a difference between CE's ending, where you just see the ring explode and thtere's no explict confirmation for sure that nobody else made it out, vs in Halo 3, where Johnson had a whole dramatic death scene. There's also the issue of the ttime difference, it was established that johnson actually lived only a little while after CE came out, wheras he's been dead as of 3 for over a decade now.


Anyways if you can come up with a justification for the covenant to still be eenemies that doeesn't feel overly contrived, tthen I'd bee fine with it, I just can't see one.
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>>427317781
I think you’re focusing on the wrong stuff. Like you, i’ll make this concession: If 343 can come up with an engaging roster of enemies that are as good or better than the covenant, i’d be open to leaving them behind.
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>>427317240

Halo 3 had the best campaign though, really. I wish they hadn't tacked on the shitty flood level as nostalgia or something but at least it was short and had some narrative of Cortana basically going crazy. Halo 2 had too much fluff and Jackle snipers. It actually felt TOO long. I rarely say that of FPS campaigns. Halo 3 was just right and had the skulls to increase replayablility. Halo 1 felt rushed what with having you just replay leveling backward to pad runtime.
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>>427318096
Halo 3 had an unfocused story and weak connective tissue between levels.

Nothing in Halo 3 is as good as Silent Cartographer/343 Guilty Spark/The Library/The Maw

The only level that might get beat out is Halo (in CE) because The Covenant (in 3) is just that good.
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There can be only one
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>>427313083
Prometheans wouldnt be as fun to fight even if they played like the convening gameplay wise. A lot of what was great about Halo enemies was they each had personality and mannerism and interacted with eachother and the player in interesting ways.
Literal robots wouldnt be nearly as interesting.
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>>427318513
actually and unironically underrated. Not Dook3D good, but still fun stuff.

Here’s hoping Both Halo and Doom are better.
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>>427315638
Halo 1 was great for its campaign, Halo 2 was great for its multiplayer, and Halo 3 was great for its everything.
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I see Halo still triggers Sonyfags and "old-school FPS" boomerfags

It's good to be home.
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>>427318096
This
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>>427318362

Outside the big reveal of "SPACE PARASITES ARE WHY THE HALO'S EXIST" was a good plot point in Halo 1. The Library was the worst level in Halo 1. Replaying levels was boring as fuck. I guess my point is that Halo never really had that good of plot going forward. They never really delved into the Covenant much which in my opinion was the best most exotic part of Halo. I wanted to know about them. Not the fucking Forerunner. Then never even covered it really. I even read some of the books and they were some decent Sci-Fi novels but they just covered the humans.
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>>427319015
See? I prefer the covenant as an alien swarm to kill, not something I want to take political intrigue into.

I love replaying Halo CE levels more than any Halo.

I think having the forerunners be mysterous background aliens are far more interesting.

The Library is by far the best Flood level and one of if not my MOST favorite level in all of Halo (the series). Perfect level of engagement, every weapon on the map, intense almost horror like engagements on Legendary. A gauntlent and a fucking blast.

As a Covviefag I assume you think H2 is the best then?
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>>427319015
Not him, in my opinion, I felt they explored the Covenant enough in Halo 2 and I didn't want any more of that going forward, I was always interested in knowing more about the Forerunners since I loved their mystery, I only enjoy shooting and fighting the Covenant. It's why Halo 2 is the worst in the Halo trilogy for me.
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>>427319468
This, he probably does.
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>>427318362
>>427318096
person who thinks CE has the worst bungie campaign here: 2 is my favorite but I can accept people thinking 3's is better

IMO 2 has way more highs then 3's campaign, and I enjoy 2's tone way more, and it pretty much unquestionable has the best narrative, but 3 has much less lows and higher highs even if there are less of them: 3 is more consistent in quality overall.

Anyways I don't get what people's deal with ODST and Reach's campaign is. Both had pretty consistently good to great missions even if none were 10/10 amazing, and whilee they weren't narrative masteerpieces or anytthing, at least had somee atmospheric mood/tones going on, and has a few characters bouncing off of each other and wans't just generic action movie plott like 3's.

>Nothing in Halo 3 is as good as Silent Cartographer/343 Guilty Spark/The Library/The Maw

Silent Cartographer is indeed onee of the franchises best missions, and actually manages to havee exterior spaces with eenough complexity in geometry to not feel empty, but it still has just mazees of hallways for it's interior spaces. As I said, 343 guilty spark is reeally only good on it's first playthroigh, and I think the Maw is just a worse Halo.

IMO the best 10 missions in the series are:

>The Covenant
>Delta Halo
>Regret
>The Ark
>Silent Carographer
>Tsavo Highway
>Long Night of Solace
>Coastal Highway
>Mombassa Sreets
>Lone Wolf

>>427319015
You fucking what,Halo 2's plot is about Covenant politics, and a ton of the books take place from thee perspective of covenant characters and go into that.
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>>427318737
I like Doom 3. So I could care less if you like Halo.
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>>427319625
I'm poking fun at retards who think their tastes are sophisticated based on what they don't like/play.

My first FPS were Dark Forces, Outlaws and Doom II. I still fucking love pre-343 Halo
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>>427319468

I feel like they never explored it enough even outside of Halo 2. Like why are these fucking Gorillas taking over just because of....reasons that the the big three need to take over. I understand they had their religion but it's just so glossed over. I mean you need that little seed of exploration to go on unless you just want the game to be a pure online experience. Halo 1 didn't really do it for me. Halo 2 sort of did it for me and got me a little into the books which were okay but Fall of Reach was the best. Halo 3 edged it out a bit. I think Halo 3 nailed the gameplay the best though. Same with the multiplayer.

I don't know. When I want to play a single player campaign I want some lore to lead me down the rabbit hole. It's what I like about the Quakecon thing I just watched about DOOM Eternal and them actually doing both a bit. I want to feel invested in muh story while killing shit. Halo has had a really on again off again relationship with this and just leaning on the crutch of novels to keep people invested.
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>>427319609
we doing this?

>The Library
>Silent Cartographer
>The Maw
>The Covenant
>Halo (CE)
>Metropolis
>Delta Halo
>Mombassa Streets
>Long Night of Solace
>343 Guilty Spark
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Doom because Halo probably not coming out next year.
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>>427309910
there, halo is saved
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>>427319609
>>427319015
In fact, here's a short guide on what do read/do for coveenant shit

>The Flood (CE's book adaption)
One of the worse books, but is the first introduction to the coveenant from theiir peerspective, as about 1/3 of the book is from thee perspective of one of the spec ops elite you see in The Maw, and a grunt that serves him; but overall light on details

>2
Explores covenant politiics, with half thee gamee's plot following the disgraced commander of the fleeet that invaded reach after he was branded a heretic for allowing the Halo installation from CE to be destroyed.

>First Stike
Only the epliloguee is from the covenant perspective, and even that's a dropped plot poiint, but the book is needed to read Ghosts of Onyx

>Ghosts of Onyx
Only a siingle set of chapters deals witth the covenant's internal functioning, but it's from the perspective of a ship led by elites that are dealing with the civil war that happens during the events of Halo 2.

>Contact Harvest
A full half the book is from tthe coveenant perspective, and details how the covenant-human war began. Has a lot of info on covenant politics, caste systems, why they hatee humanity, etc

>Colee protocolee
The book deals with a rebel human colony that livees together with a band of jackal space pirates. has multiple covenant perspectiives, of both some of the jackals, as well as the arbiter earlier in life, who is sent by ttruth to investigate thee matter

>Evolutionss
Is an anthology, multtiple of the short stories deals wiith covenant perspectives, such as a Elite shipmaster who afteer the eveents of Halo 3 is looking for closure and answers after tthe truth about humanity and the Halo array was found out

1/2
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>>427320086
I thought the ring world that can kill the universe, guilty spark and the forerunner stuff was enough to keep me invested. You are right about Fall of Reach being the pinnacle of the franchise storywise.
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>>427319609

>Halo 2's plot is about Covenant politics

Even through the books we know nothing of why Hunters who are fucking worms in a armor even care to follow this group. Why do Jackles care? I can get Grunts I guess but like why do these disparate groups care enough. They sort of covered it with Elites who felt betrayed but everything else is cannon fodder to be glossed over.
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>>427320618
IT DOESN’T MATTER IT’S FUN TO BE BIG GREEN MAN WITH PURPLE GIRLFRIEND GOING SHOOTY SHOOTY

lorefags tire me out. Politics ruined H2, H3 only worked as well as it did because they scaled that shit back, but the levels weren’t on par.
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>>427320523
>>427319015
cont:

>Kilo 5 triology
sequel to theevents of ghosts of onyx, takes place in tthe postwar era and half of tthe first two books deals with events on thee elitee homeworld now that the covenant has been fractured, deals with them recovering from being ruled by thee prohpets and learning to self govern again, and political inifhgitng between

Unforantely those are tthe ONLY good parts of the kilo 5 books, don't even bother to read the last one

>Broken Circle

Entirely covenant focused, the first half of thee book takes place from the perspective of both a prophet and an elite during their war and the formation of thee covenant, the second half takes place during the Civil war you see in Halo 2

>Hunters iin the Dark
The book is about a joint elite-UNSC travelling back tto the ark after the events of Halo 3, and is thee origin of vale from halo 5, who is an eliteaboo.

I haven't read the books after that

>>427320618
bro you clearly haven't read much of the novels
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>>427320539

I agree that's a valid complaint but I thought they might do something different other than "BIG THING IS HERE IT WILL KILL" after Halo 3. But they didn't. It's always BIG THING KILLS now: ROBUTT EDITION. I mean I guess I can't blame them much but fuck. The lore of this series had some cool directions they could have maybe gone down. It's just disappointing.
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For anyone wondering what Bungie’s philosophy was in terms of lore vs gameplay/fun here is the most enlightening video to their creative process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52ySLTgfhU
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>>427320539
Fall of Reach honestly is pretty average as far as the novels go. It's good but there's plenty of better halo novels
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>>427319609
Why are lorefags the most autistic community within the Halo fanbase?
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>>427303456
Cod4 blew it out the park, I love halo, mainly for the MP but halo CE sp is awesome and I enjoyed halo 5 campaign, story was dumb and legendary wasn't as fun as previous games but i enjoyed it more than 2+3, I know I'm in the minority but whatever. Also I find it hard to find a game on halo5 these days.
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>>427320790

The last novel I read was Ghost's of Onyx. It was a fine sci fi novel but I just got tired by then. Maybe they're covering crazy covenant shit by now but my point is that generally you do that in game. Not via outside resources.
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>>427319893
>local 50yo man finds a game slow enough to enjoy
You're gonna have a blast with your friends at the retirement home playing Infinite, just like old times!
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>>427321115
It's sad that it took until Halo Infinite for 343 to get this, games over books, games should always be over books. If lore ruins the fun and gameplay of the game, get ignore it.
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>>427295853
green man's game: unending will be better
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>>427321305
Epic
Upvoted!
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I was kinda let down by the doom trailers, enemies didn't seem aggressive enough and I wanna fight more at once, halo I only really 'loved' CE and halo 3/4 swat. I hope we get a smaller more focused weapon pool in halo infinite and I hope doom eternal also ends up better than the trailers.....I also hope some of the respawn Devs going back to infinity ward reinvigorate cod but that won't happen now will it.
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>>427321287
Unforantely as >>427321192 shows an increasing amount of people don't like fleshing the universe out and mistake 4 and 5's awful writting for being book reliant, so 343 is shying away from putting lore in the games now. Anyways, if you want a lot of good covenant stuff, read Contact harvest and Broken Circle. you don't need to have read any of the other books to enjoy them and they have the most/best covenant stuff.

Conttact harvest is mostly Brute/gruntt/prophet stuff for it's covenant half, Broken circle is prophet/elite stuff

Cole protocolee is beest for info on jackals, if you want that, butt personally I think it's onee of tthee worse halo novels.
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>>427321182

I don't know about that. Fall of Reach was a damn good Sci Fi novel. I even recommended my dad read it back when it released. I think I was 20 at the time. He was skeptical but came back and gave it great praise.
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>>427299781
Yet the Halo is on their last chance to redeem from the shit show that was MCC and Halo 5
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>>427295853
Halo has always been meh compared to other shooters.
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>>427321579
Happy to help, Steve, try to not shit your bed again when you sleep from too much viagra!
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>>427296315

oh god, halo fags are in fire.
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>>427321305
Le epic le boomer le meme

Go back
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>BO4 is looking to be the worst CoD game in the series
>BFV has been getting bad press thanks to EA and women soldiers
>Overwatch is dead
>Siege can go both ways
>Doom Etenral is looking to be great
>Halo infinite is also good great press and people are hyped for the series again
>Rage 2 looking to be good too.
Yeah, I'm thinking great FPSs are back
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>>427322021
And I'm sure they'll redeem it.
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>>427322158
it’s literally all doomtards saying FPBP so this thread has just turned into Halo general.

>>427321305
cringe

>>427321258
different strokes, but I’m really ready for classic Halo to come back.
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>>427322291
This, stop arguing
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>>427321305

>Chad oldfag boomer vs virgin nu-/v/ incel
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>>427322491
This
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>>427322021

I still can't believe they fucked up Master Chief Collection so bad on the online side.

That was going to be the game the sold me on an Xbone. Would have been worth it too. I'll never forget how fucked the online was early on. Just a clusterfuck. Bought a PS4 Slim instead afterward. Years later I can say God of War, Uncharted 4, and Bloodborne were worth it. So I glad I didn't fuck with it. God's Will or something.
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>>427320419
would play, even if the PCs would laugh at us.
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>>427295853
Only one of those games have competent developers
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>>427298253
faggot.
nobody cares for your gay ass opinions.
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>>427322291

>Overwatch
>dead

That's funny. You're a funny guy.
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>>427296315
FP
BP
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>>427322239
>when age and playing halo slows down your brain so much that you need two line breaks to collect your thoughts
Tragic, really
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>>427322716
343 has had a major overhaul, multiplayer director let go, lots of new blood, a new engine, etc.

>>427322630
it’s been fixed as of this update, too little too late, sure, but it’s nice to play classic Halo on occasion while I pray for Infinite to take us home.
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>>427323042
This
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>>427296315
this but unironically
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>>427323013
>methodical combat engagement is inherently worse
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@427323013
No (you)
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>>427323042
I actually find games quicker in halo MCC than halo5
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>>427296315
There's no need to call Doom II the worst Doom; its still a useful IWAD.
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>>427322381
were it so easy
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>>427323307
They seem to understand what Halo is now, this is something I didn't see throughout Halo 4 and 5's development.
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>>427323013
I like you, you cringey little faggot. You make me laugh.
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>>427323307
If I still had fingers they’d be crossed.
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>>427323186

>I actually find games quicker in halo MCC than halo5

Good lord that is sad but not surprising. Halo 3 was doing double duty over Halo 4 after it's horrendous launch back in the day.
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>>427296315
This so much
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>>427295853
this is like asking me to shoot one of my children

>Halo: Infinite
revitalizing the halo i knew and loved with a fuckin splitscreen campaign i hope on pc. pretty fucking tasty

>Doom: Eternal
desu it looks like more of the same but i am excited for it

as far as i see it doom eternal is gonna be fuckin awesome but halo infinite is going to be better
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>>427296315
This
The first halo may be interesting with the multiplayer, the numerous shit that went after really is average
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>>427295853

Halo has too much beef in the past.

DOOM has had literally one fucking bad entry and even that entry wasn't even that bad. DOOM 3 was a fine game. Like a 7/10. Nu-DOOM was amazing and this new one looks that much better. It's not even a contest.
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>>427323475
>comfy Halo CE multiplayer even better than Xlink Kai
>2 and 3 still strong as fuck ESPECIALLY 3
>4tards section themselves off and you don’t even have to download that portion anymore if you don’t care
>got ODST campaign out of the deal
>revamped support

it stings and I had to blow the dust off my Xbone but I’m hapoy for the royal treatment we are getting now, and I think it was necessary to WAKE THEM THE FUCK UP for Infinite.
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>>427323774
This
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>>427323830
I think you underestimate the sleeping Lion that is Halo 3’s dormant playerbase.

If GOOD OL’ Halo came back, it would be a fucking EVENT the likes of which you can only imagine.
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>>427323162
>shooting in the general direction of braindead enemies
>slow it down 4 times
>it's methodological now!
Best game ever made! Halo Infinite is gonna top everything - it's just gona be Halo CE run on an emulator at 1/100000th of normal speed for that supreme methodological expirience. Hence the name - Halo Infinite, because that's what your lifespan will need to be to get past the first mission
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>>427298663
LOL no. You might be able to argue it's better then 4, but it's handedly worse the 1-3 and reach.
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>>427324362
>if you think thing is good than you think BIG THING is better
>BIG THING is verifiably bad
>so thing is bad

cringe
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>>427298620
>past Reach
>past
>like Reach and before
>Reach is like before

OOF
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>>427324490
>including Reach with Halo 1-3
Not him but get out.
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>>427324490
Not him, but I disagree, it's tied with 2 as my second favorite MP in the series beehind H2A
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>>427298620
Halo 5 already returned to even starts with weapons and powerups on tthe maps, though

In a lot of ways it's closer to 2's MP then even 3 was.
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>>427295853
One is being made by 343 and one is isn't, it isn't even a competition
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>>427324901
AHHH Just play swat if you want sweaty faster paced Halo gameplay. H5 and H2 both have mechanics that hinder the overal Halo combat (Movement mechanics and button combos respectively)

at least H2 had good maps and decent casual gameplay, 5 has neither. It’s just a clusterfuck.
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>>427325075
A lot has changed at 343 you might as well not even call them the same team.
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>>427325075
Yeah, so we Halo is guaranteed to have good MP
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>>427325003
>everyone has retarded flying around ablities that easily remove you from encounters, introduce unpredicatble randomness in spacing, reward failed jumps, seperates map traversal and combat speed and excessively speed up the game
>but everyone has it so it’s “balanced(tm)”
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>>427296315
Halo was always better than DOOM, by a longshot.

http://culture.vg/reviews/videogame-art/not-art-doom.html

Imagine actually preferring to look at the endless labyrinthine dungeon-esque rooms in Doom over the mixture of outdoors and indoors, space and planet biome environments in Halo, or preferring to play a game that requires occasionally taking notes on where you are because there is hardly any way to figure it out visually since the environments are not very distinct and interesting to look at.
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>>427324336

Perhaps. That music from marty in the "trailer" raised some goosebumps. This is their last chance. I got a bit of nostalgia from that. Can't believe that was like 10 fucking years ago. They've got a short leash with me but I'll give them one more chance.

>my visage fucking when they disappoint me again
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>>427325075
343 has a chance. A lot has changed internally and in the community.
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>>427324726
>grug little memory
>grug no brain space for all post
>so grug only respond to two half of post
>this makes grug argue chief
Don't worry, it's okay to forget things at your age
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>>427325472
This
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>>427325523
you aren’t worth a proper engagement. I’m not responding anymore.
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>>427325509
let’s hope you don’t have to.
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>>427325523

I thank you for this Big Guy image my friend. That's a rarity with some work put into it. Thank you.
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>>427301693
cringe.
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>>427325828
Good, you're way past your bedtime, take your meds and off you go
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>>427297767
This is what /v/ has become
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>>427296315
>this opinion is controversial on v now

What the fuck happened?
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>>427326364
>DOOMer trying to gaslight Halo fans like D16M is the new hotness.

Not for long, buddy.
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>>427326565
Now we have actual bad FPS games in the mainstream and people have realized Halo isn’t bad, just different.
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>>427326665
God, I can't wait for Halo Infinite to crush Doomtards.
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>>427326767
>Except for you of course, Sam. I’ll make you assistent crusher.
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>>427325352
>reward failed jumps,

Not eveen gonna respond ttto the rest of your post, this alone shows how retarded you are, 5 has by far the most skillumps of any Halo game.
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>>427327178
Not him I wouldn't be surprised if Thrusters, Stabilizers, and Clamber are the only Spartan Abilities 343 keeps in Halo Infinite.
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>>427295853
>one of these shooters is built aroiund auto aim and bullet magnetism
this by all definitions makes it a inferior shooter
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>>427327178
Clamber on everything isn’t a skilljump. Just because there are more opportunities for scaling/vertical escalation doesn’t mean it’s a skillfull act or a meaningful gameplay mechanic.
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>>427301693
Based.
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Blacklight Retribution will come back and win 2019
just you fucking wait
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>>427326565
summer+the election+reddit=lots and lots of newfags with no personal taste that copy everything reddit tells them
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>>427325472
>icycalm
Cringe.
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>>427327616
precision isn’t everything. Console shooters need to prioritize methodical mobility/cover and weapon/vehicle sandbox over precision and speed.

>>427327514
then it wouldn’t be Halo and it would ruin the map design and continue down the shitty path since Reach.

>>427327760
we’ve always been here, /v/ had great Halo threads back almost a decade ago when everyone went to sleep.
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>>427328125
>/v/ had great Halo threads back almost a decade ago when everyone went to sleep.
This historical revisionism always gets me
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>>427328217
I was there Quaketard. The only difference is Halo threads aren’t spammed as much with buzzwords.
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>precision isn’t everything
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>>427296315
FPBP has never been so relevant, holy fuck.
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>>427328125
>then it wouldn’t be Halo and it would ruin the map design and continue down the shitty path since Reach.
How exactly, sprint would be gone, smart scope would be gone, slide would be gone, Spartan Charge would be gone, and Ground Pound would be gone, the game would be a blend of classic and modern Halo without maps stretched out for sprint we'll have maps made more inline with what we got in Halo 1-3.
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>>427328323
it literally isn’t. Shooting games can prioritize many things other than pinpoint accuracy.
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>>427328125
>precision isnt everything
im sorry but last i checked this genre was called first person SHOOTER, Precision is all that matters with shooting it is the ultimate the factor to prove your skill with the game, you dont see a carny shooting game having some guy guiding your arm to the target
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>>427295853
>Halo Infantile
lol this shit writes itself
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>>427321258
>Cod
kys.
at least 30 year old DOOMERS have a real argument
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>>427328394
Clamber/stabilizers introduces the same verticality problems that jetpack did, ruining the vertical scale of the maps.

Thrusters ruin combat engagement spacing.

There is no place for enhanced mobility in Halo. Compromise isn’t the answer.
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>>427328319
Halofags on /v/ where always seen as underage newfags
you would literally be too young to remember how hard the Halo fanbase was mocked here
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@427328436
>aiming accuracy doesn't have to be a priority in a SHOOTER

You're not getting these (You)s
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>>427327723

oh hey I remember this game

it was pretty okay
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>>427328319
Yes and Night Time /v/ used to be bro's with feminism, i remember seeing plenty of threads about female oppression and how we could spread LGBTQ gamer culture in games and civilized discussions about all sorts of things like that . not anymore. i'm guessing it's the huge influx of Quaketards and how big the /pol/ containment board has gotten. /v/ has become the bigoted white conservative christians they used to complain about. What happened?
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>>427328476
>Precision is everything
>One of the most popular games currently is the RNiGgertry fest that is CS:GO
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>>427328476
you also move, have weapons, traverse a map, engage enemies, drive, jump and whatever else.

more than anything, Halo is about your dodge/redirection/engagement game, not your pinpoint accuracy.

it’s different and deserves to exist on its own merits, and suits a controller better.
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>>427328605
The complaints on these three specific Spartan Abilities are small, very, small and looking at Chief's back in the Halo Infinite trailer it looks like he still had Thrusters. Halo can have a little modern touch and still be Halo. Halo 4 and 5 went too far, Halo Infinite needs to grab the old audience but keep the people that like those three abilities while getting new players to play Halo.
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>>427328765
>Halobabby arguing that accuracy doesn't matter in Counter Strike
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>>427326665
>new hotness
>new
I wouldn't dare, Halo was always the hottest (steaming even) pile of shit around, even if Infinite will turn down the heat to still-boiling temperature.
And who said you need to turn up the heat slowly, eh? Halo fans prove you can toss these green fucks right into a boiling pot of feces and they won't jump out.
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>>427328743

bunch of little kids swarmed the boards once it got a little popular and started spewing the bullshit you see everywhere now because they thought that would make them 'edgy'
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>>427328743
you’re not funny.

>>427328610
only really in the daytime, and you learn to deal with the shitposts if you wanna have tough skin. Not my fault I stuck around and the rest of you moved to /vr/.
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>>427327681
Except you are being retarded, even with clamber there are still plenty of jumps you need to grenade jump or crouchjump for, and there's also a ton of jumps you also need tto chain thrusters, hover, and ground pound for.

This isn;t a hard concept: The addition of new movement mechanics adds more skilljumps then clamber removes, especially since the maps are DESIGNED with clamber and abilities in mind

>>427328476
>>427327616
>>427328323
>>427328629
>>427328973
>>427328973
You are aware that even with aim assist and bullet magnetism it's STILL harder to aim accurately on a controller then it is with M+KB right?
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>>427326557
Smoke some more opium boomer
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>Controller takes more skill than M+KB!

Here we fucking go
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>>427329074
>You are aware that even with aim assist and bullet magnetism it's STILL harder to aim accurately on a controller then it is with M+KB right?
wow so your telling me FPS games dont work on controllers?
this is totally revelating me man
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>>427329051
You're not smart.
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>>427328849
>you also move, have weapons, traverse a map, engage enemies, drive, jump and whatever else.
you also did that on many PS1/N64 with auto aim enabled, difference is that nobody tries to pass those games off as genre defining back then
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Why are PC FPS bitches so obsessed with console FPS?
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>>427328928
they are NOT small AT ALL. These three abilities change the CORE GAMEPLAY on a fundemental level and influence every facet of map design and the weapons sandbox. The would ruin a new Halo (the multiplayer anyway).

New fans need to “learn how to adapt”. Compromise pleases nobody.

>>427329074
all easily executed and speeds up an already too fucking fast game and ruins combat engagment by introducing randomness in spacing.

>>427328993
stay mad, nobody thinks you are interesting.
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>>427329470
Why are console FPS bitches so obsessed with PC FPS?
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>>427329386
What is Golden Eye and Perfect Dark?
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>>427329585
We're not, like at all, you guys don't shut up about Halo, you even hate it if people bring up wanting Master Chief to appear in Smash Bros, you're so bitter it's funny.
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>>427323423
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>>427328993
>nuHalofans being the same as the old ones

cringe

>>427329779
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>>427295853
Eternal looks like shit
Infinite will be shit
>>427296315
Halo CE is 10/10 and has no flaws
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>>427329754
>We're not, like at all,
Your post proves the opposite
You bitches are obsessed with "Quaketards" living in your head rent free and you have a massive inferiority complex when it comes to aim assist and controller vs mouse aim. You're so bitter and pathetic its sad.
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>>427330005
We don't come into every single Doom or Quake thread to post "baby's first FPS" every time someone makes a thread. to us none of you exist, you just want to be heard so you post in our thread so you could try to be known.
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>>427330005
We’ve been here long enough to know what you are. We arn’t inferior, we are a different take on the same concept. You have nothing.

>>427330002
Halo CE has unbalanced multiplayer with anything more than 2 V 2 and a lot of the maps are filler.
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>>427301693
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>>427330164
>to us none of you exist,
>literally never stops crying about being bullied by Doom and Quake players
rent free.
>you post in our thread so you could try to be known.
>thread is about both Halo and Doom
Rent free.
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>>427329754
>please put my self-insert that's the best character ever #3525 in smash!
>stop spamming the board with your shit threads, halofags
>why are you so OBSESSED?

>>427330192
>We arn't inferior
perfect comedic timing
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>>427330192
>We’ve been here long enough to know what you are. We arn’t inferior,
t. newfag who knows hes inferior
You have nothing.
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Open wide crusty boi
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>>427330469
you’re making an ass out of yourself and your fanbase. Stop whining, you have Ion Maiden and new Doom.
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ITT
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>>427330469
>thread is about both HALO and Doom
Yes, if it was about DOOM we wouldn't give a shit.

>>427330481
What is Doomguy, mother fucker doesn't even have a name or a character, he's a literal self-insert.
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>all these years later people are STILL angry at big bad Halo for killing their franchises

Pathetic.
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>>427330675
Says the whiny halofag making an ass out of himself and his fanbase.
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>>427330164
>to us none of you exist, you just want to be heard so you post in our thread so you could try to be known.
"Our thread"?

Remind me which game was shown off today?
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>>427330715
You should change the filename to Doom players on the right Halo players on the left.
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>all these years later people are STILL angry at Doom for being the superior franchise

Hilarious.
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>>427330715
We had about 200 posts of reasonable discussion and all of a sudden a few Doom only whiny shitposters got in the thread and now its a mess.

We’re certainly not the ones crying or making a mess here, champ.
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>>427330942
Doesn't matter so you see Halo fans coming into your threads shitting it up?
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>>427330953
>You should change the filename to make it inaccurate
Good job proving him right.
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>>427301693
>how to trigger amerizoomers
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>>427331154
*do
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>>427301693
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>>427331092
pic related, this is you.
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>>427331195
We're not the ones crying though, you are, you've been doing it for years. You PCfats have always been bitter about consoles and console games, I bet you're still bitter that Microsoft bought Bungie and Halo in the 90s as well.
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>>427330806
>Halofan happy for causing a genre stagnation that we are still recovering from
your series deserve 343i
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>>427331103
You certainly are the ones crying and making a mess here, This entire thread consists of assmad replies from whiny Halo only kiddies getting triggered by the very first reply to OP

Let us know when you're done throwing your tushy tantrum and shitpsting, kiddo.
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>>427330791
And nobody wants doomguy to be in smash, unlike halofags who unironically want chief in smash because their standards for something good is "references things from my childhood"

>>427330806
If somehow hallo killed "your franchise" then it's all for the better because you must've had shit taste of universe-collapsing magnitude
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>>427331402
>no u I know what you are but what am I bawww PCfats
Good job proving him right.
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>>427295853
Doom wins.
Every Halo game after Reach arguably every game after 3 or ODST is shit.
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>>427331402

See >>427331326
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>>427331447
>And nobody wants doomguy to be in smash
>>427326291
>>427307064
>>427326291
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>>427331154
That's correct.
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>>427331103
It's not even real Doomfags, it's fucking Zenimax shill faggots trying to push SöyDoom
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>>427331531
>>427331618
t. PCfats
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>>427331416
where did I imply anything of the sort?

I simultaneously think Halo shouldn’t be shitposted to oblivion by butthurt fans from other franchises and I think the old ways shouldn’t be abandoned.
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>>427331714
*do you see
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You are aware that even with aim assist and bullet magnetism it's STILL harder to aim accurately on a controller then it is with M+KB right?

We're not the ones crying , you are, you've been doing it for years.

You PCfats have always been bitter about consoles and console games

we’re not the ones crying or making a mess here, champ all of a sudden a few Doom only whiny shitposters got in the thread and now its a mess.

We don't come into every single Doom or Quake thread to post "baby's first FPS" every time someone makes a thread.

To us none of you exist, you just want to be heard so you post in our thread so you could try to be known

We're not, like at all, you guys don't shut up about Halo, you even hate it if people bring up wanting Master Chief to appear in Smash Bros, you're so bitter

We’ve been here long enough to know what you are. We arn’t inferior, we are a different take on the same concept.

You have nothing.
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>>427331696
>halofags so tone deaf he doesn't understand jokes
I'll explain it in journobabble you cucks love: doomguy, an 18+ character who's whole thing is killing in very graphic ways juxtaposed with Smash, a child and family friendly game, creates a humorous scenario
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>>427331837
obsessed
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>>427332110
nobody thinks you are funny, we will still talk about Halo here, and if Infinite is good, expect a lot of praise. Stay obsessed.
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>>427331943
No it was correct the first time.
>>427330791
>if it was about DOOM we wouldn't give a shit.
It is about DOOM though.
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>>427332314
Everybody thinks you're funny
>Stay obsessed.
>literally can't stop crying about "Quaketards" and "PCfats"
Hilarious.
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>>427332110
>here's a blogpost about how much I DEFINITELY DO NOT care about you
Amazing, can't wait for the book and Netflix adaptation, anon
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>>427329268
Except clearly they do since people play them with aim assist and bullet magnetism, which is harder to do then using a mouse.

Both

>Haha yeah micee are so much better and more accurate
>haha mice takes so much more skill lmao

can't be true. Even with aim assist and bullet magntism, shooting accurately on console takes far more precision and skill then using a mouse is. If you want to argue that it's artificial difficulty added by tthe control methid, feel free to do that, but you can't have your cake and eat it too about which takes more skill and which is easier.
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>COD ruins an entire decade of FPS
>Doom and Quaketards still blame Halo
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>>427332530
We're don't care, like at all, you guys don't shut up about Halo, you are the ones who care about us, do you see Halo fans coming into your threads shitting it up? To us none of you exist, you just want to be heard so you post in our thread so you could try to be known.
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>>427332496
>conflates many posters into one poster
>so autistic he has to comb for posts to try and formulate his flimsy narrative.

We were all here, this thread was fine before you had your autistic meltdown.
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I don't like this thread
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>>427332346
I know what I wanted to type, anon.
>It is about DOOM though.
It's also about Halo.
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>>427305579
>Halo 4 campaign was great

what the fuck? who actually found that shit fun, you literally ran out of ammo every 2 minutes because the Knights were so bulletspongey they put Halo 2 Brutes to shame.
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>>427332570
Nice delusion.
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>>427332570
>it takes more skill to run through a field full of toddlers trying to shoot you than trained military personnel with the same goal
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>>427332794
I know what you actually typed, and responded accordingly.
>It's also about Halo.
I never said it wasn't.
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>>427332693
It’s alright anon, let it all out. Where did Halo hurt you? Was it Serious Sam? Maybe Wolfenstien?
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>>427333012
>it hurt itself in confusion
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>>427332641
THIS
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>>427332752
This all started with your autistic meltdown over the first reply ITT. You're so fond of revisionism that you're trying to revise the history of this this thread to fit your flimsy narrative.
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>>427333110
Shh Shh, Oh it was Quake? It’s OK, you can still fire up good ol’ Quake 3 anytime you want, it’s not going anywhere.
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>>427333309
90% of this thread had absolutely nothing to do with the first reply, and the only thing I replied with is “cringe” because that’s all it is. Cringe.
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>>427333323
>just keep going, maybe they won't notice
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>>427295853
So does this mean that Doom Guy really is coming to Smash?
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>>427332570
>Both can't be true.

But they are. Mice are demonstrably better and more accurate than thumbsticks for first person shooters and mice have a higher skill ceiling because of it. You might as well be arguing that it takes more "skill" to use a racing wheel to play FPS games because it's not easier than a controller.
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>>427333515
Half life too? Don’t let your buddies hear that one, I hear they blame Half Life for narrative engagement getting in the way of their 3D pacman simulators! I miss it too anon, but sometimes it’s best to let it go...
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>>427333430
Doesn't matter, this thread was tanked by the multitude of cringy cryposts to the first reply which caused your fanbase to have an autistic metldown over it. Don't project your cringe and autism unto everyone else.
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>All this doom and quake cowards
You are below trash
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>>427333714
80% of the reply to the first post is FPBP. Nobody even talked about Doom for like, 100 posts and when they did it was generally positive.

This is easily verifiable by anyone here.
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>>427330715
THIS.
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>>427333749
This
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>>427331092
HAHAHAHAHAHA sure think retard, now go playing with your irrelevant heavy metal band
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>>427333908
>>427333926
this
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>>427333951
This, Doomfags need to eat shit and die.
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>>427333906
80% of the reply to the first post is "cringe" "bait" and other cryposts. This is easily verifiable by anyone here.
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>>427295853
But what if I love both series?
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>>427333749
As a Halo fan, i’ll just step in and defend these games. The games are just fine, it’s just the eternal butthurt at the industry shift directed at a genuinely good trilogy of games that is unacceptable.

Nothing constructive, no debate, just pure malice and shitposting. It’s all so tiresome.
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>>427333749
>>427333926
>>427333951
>>427333951
>>427334039
seething
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>>427310043
Hahahaha faggot irrelevant opinion #9999
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>>427333651
I guess I have to spell it out to your braindead head. The first "where halo touched you" post you made replied to a halofag like yourself.
And you must be seriously delusional to think halo killed anything other than sales for toys for kids aged 3 and under.
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>>427315638
>t. Zoomer
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>>427334046
one word dismissive statements are hardly cryposts. Unlike this meltdown of no u’s and autistic repetition.
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>>427334243
>older people couldn't possibly think Halo is mediocre
wew, Halo is the second most zoomer FPS I can thinkg of
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>>427295853
Modern games can barely handle fps 60, you really think they can manage fps 2019?
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>>427334138
>le seething
Just accept no one with a bit of taste consider Doom good and relevant, stay delusional pclown
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>>427334209
actually read the reply chain before you try and act smart. It was a repeat post to be sarcastic or “gotcha” similar to the autistic red wojack post.
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>>427298663
Halo 5 mp > every shooter in the past 3 years
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>>427298663
>Halo 5's Multiplayer is better than 3's.

Yeah fuck off.
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halo psh more like gaylo
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>>427334445
This
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>>427334103
It's virginal shitposters and retarded marketers. There's no stopping it.

Any person with more than half a brain is able to enjoy all those shooter franchises.
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>>427334467
cringe

>>427334474
Redpilled

>>427334475
heh, more like BOOM

>>427334407
underrated
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>>427334396
>older people arent retards with shit taste
lmao at your """"arguments""""
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>Even with aim assist and bullet magntism, shooting accurately on console takes far more precision and skill
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>>427334578
>argument
All you have in defense of Halo 2 and 3 was to try and call me a zoomer. w e w, no self awaremenss
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>>427334081
>both Doomguy and Chief are returning to their more classic looks
>Infinite and Eternal are synonyms with forever
What does it all MEEEEEANNNN?
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>>427334706
When i call you a zoomer? Retard
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>>427334319
>the meltdown of cringe and autistic repetition are hardly cryposts
Keep crying.
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>>427333546
That's a valid point, but what % of players are actually going to hit that skillcap? I'd be willing to bet nott a singleee person in here, certainly not myself, would. And competitive players in Halo turn aim assist off entirely anyways, at which point your arguement loses value

>>427332926
Thee discussion is about precision, you retard. How skilled other players are has no bearing on the amount of skill required to be pricse, and even if it did everybody has the same amount of aim assist and such
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>>427334575
yikes
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>>427334552
regardless, we aren’t going anywhere. So to all the genuine twitch shooter fans who arn’t ZeniShills, i’m sorry your games died, but we arn’t leaving.
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>>427334804

>>427334243
>t. zoomer
The memory span of a tucking goldfish
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>>427334445
Seething.
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Am I the only one who likes both Doom and Halo? I also like Brutal doom.
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>ywn get excited to play picrel with your friends on the weekends again
>ywn spend all week creating maps and game modes to play, only for them to fail(but you all have a blast anyways)
People shit on Reach, but forget that it had the best forge mode for custom games ever made. They also forget that it had some of the best maps and game modes in the series(Invasion was the best mode). Forge in Halo 3 was garbage and a pain in the ass to use. The people who shit on Reach didn't have any friends to play it with, and are just mad they kept getting cucked by armor lock on SWORD Base.
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>>427334901
not the same anon, newfag piece of shit
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>>427295853
Infinite is coming out in 2020 at the earliest.
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>>427334901
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
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>>427334961
>best forge mode for custom games ever made
False
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>>427334961
FUCK OFF REACHFAG YOU’RE WORSE THAN THE DOOMERS

SERIES RUINER
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>>427334907
>i have shit taste
almost i can persive your digusting long hair and your sweat smelly heavy metal band t-shirt, lmao
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>>427335085
5 has a better Forge, indeed, but the community is nonexistent

Technical aspects
5>Reach>4>3

Community
3>Reach>5>4
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>>427334961
Traitors get the rope first in the Old vs Nu Halo battle.
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>>427334820
>but what % of players are actually going to hit that skillcap?
It's irrelevant. The fact that mouse aiming has a higher skillcap disproves the argument that controller somehow is more skillful to use for aiming, unless you want to argue that using a flightstick to play FPS makes you better than controller users. And ainimng magnatisim and assists can't be turned off on console Halo at all, so your argument is completely worthless as you're lying for the sake of it.
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>>427334452
It was halofag, response, halofag again and then you. Don't try to pull the "we're just pretending to be retarded" card
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>>427334820
>but what % of players are actually going to hit that skillcap?
>How skilled other players are has no bearing on the amount of skill required to be pricse

Congrats, you've played yourself.
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>>427335248
>first
Even halofags know they should all hang
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>>427335275
we’re done, you obviously can’t read.

>>427335208
Gameplay:
3 > POWERGAP > 5 > POWERGAP > Reach > 4
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>>427335138
>i have shit taste
>almost i can persive
mad as fuck
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>>427335208
I dunno, every weekend I play customs in 5 with my lads with a open lobby and it always gets full. At least for me the community is alive.
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>>427335431
>mad
When i described you perfectly, lmao at your disguting been, now tell me you have patrician taste in vidya y music lmao
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>>427295853
Microsoft is spending milions on halo infinity, they even hired 2 other studios to work with 343 industries, if they manage to pull something good, they might make the game of the decade, just like when halo 3 happened.
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>>427334802
We back
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>>427335617
holy shit literally fucking seething
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even DOOM3 is better than any Halo
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>>427334961
>People shit on Reach, but forget that it had the best forge mode for custom games ever made.
You act like Halo 5 never happened. fyi, 343 have been giving hints that Halo Infinite will have a better armor customization than Reach, so why should anyone care about Halo Reach, the Metroid Other M of Halo, again?
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>>427335779
>doomniggers argumentative skills
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you are a living meme
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>>427335641
source? I want to BELIEVE
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>>427296315
this tbqh
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>>427335920
>haloniggers
>argumentative skills
literally seething
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>>427336310
>it’s ANOTHER no u post
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>>427336416
>it’s ANOTHER seething post
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>>427336495
>wojack posting
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>All this doom and quake cowards
you are below trash. doomfags need to eat shit and die. almost i can persive your digusting long hair and your sweat smelly heavy metal band t-shirt, lmao i described you perfectly, lmao at your disguting been, now tell me you have patrician taste in vidya y music HAHAHAHAHAHA, now go playing with your irrelevant heavy metal band regardless, we aren’t going anywhere. So to all the genuine twitch shooter fans, i’m sorry your games died, but we arn’t leaving, Just accept no one with a bit of taste consider Doom good and relevant, stay delusional pclowns
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>>427336631
>seething
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>>427336642
cringe. We’re here, get used to it :^)




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