Why is Atlus hesitant to revisit the first two Persona games? Shit’s getting ridiculous at this point.
Too much shit to censor
>>687819070Because they're genuinely bad games with dogshit gameplay. And it's not even a 'they were fine for the time' sort of thing because SMT 1,2 and even fucking If... are way better gameplay wise and way more interesting. And no, it's not just 1. Both 2s might have what I consider the worst gameplay in a JRPG I've ever played.
>>687819603I thought they were fine, certainly a nice respite from the repetitive crap and re-releases they're focusing on today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNOoMF8Ibxkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PscIjD_Judw
>>687819070It's pretty obvious really. The original games differ from what the Persona brand is associated with as of now. If the originals were revisited then fans of the modern games would be confused and disappointed since it'd go against their expectations for what a Persona game should be.
>>687820702>I thought they were fineYour taste is fucking shit>repetitiveOkay you didn't actually play these games. I'm guessing you watched a lets play or something cause the last thing you can call the gameplay of these games is not repetitive. Literally all you do in 1 is spam the same config of spells with auto and spam fusion spells in 2. They're peak mindless repeitive.Also the gameplay isn't even different from a typical JRPG. It's the same turn based stuff but with dumb shit like your EXP gains being determined by how much damage a character does so bad characters get left behind and it's a chore to keep people somewhat even
>>687819070do you really want them to pull a reload on 1 and 2
>>687819070>wanting remakes of old gam instead of new gam
>>687821006>he fell for the meme that Remake was badGod I wish P1 and 2 would actually get something as high quality as P3R done to them. Make the games not fucking dogshit to play
>>687820956Finally, someone said it. Persona 2 definitely has a really cool story and executes it well, but the gameplay is dogshit. Repetitive, boring, and for whatever reason insanely easy for an atlas rpg of its time? I just don’t get it.
EPP never made it to burgerland for a reasonthere's no demand and they know it
>>687821257I wish 2 had at least kept the first person view of 1. That was genuinely charming.
Didnt persona 2 have hitler in it
>>687819070I thought you faggots hated remakes. Isn't this good news?
>>687820956You're focusing on the minor detail instead of the big picture. P1 and 2 battle systems of their time, I don't disagree they can be a slog but at least they were interesting. Every game until P4 there was a progress in the the storytelling and gameplay, After 3 they just said "fuck it" and released the same game two more times, and that's not counting how many different versions there are of 3 and 4.
>>687821497>I thought you faggots hated remakes.That's just the newest meme opinion to be spammed on 4chan. A remake done well (like P4G and P3R) can be great.
>>687821550>You're focusing on the minor detail instead of the big picture.95% of the game is gameplay. >P1 and 2 battle systems of their timeHA! FUCK YOU, I literally already addressed this retarded point. The gameplay was dogshit even for SMT because the earlier SMT games legit play better including If... which is what spun off into Person. You're so full of shit.
>>687821551golden is not a remake anon
>>687821257That's why a remake would be great for these games in order to unfuck the gameplay
>>687821635Literally a remake for the PSP Vita that changes a whole bunch of shit. It's sure as fuck not just a port considering how much new shit it adds and how it basically remakes a shit load of the assets from the ground up. But I get it. You don't want to imagine a remake you like could be a remake because remake is a dirty word in your head and you're mind broken.
>>687821438it's cool, he's the "bad" guy
>>687820847Yeah, also they're their anyway of anyone wants to play them. Modern fans could barely deal with the dungeon crawl aspects of 3. They probably would not like the dungeon crawl that is the first two games. Or first 4, I don't know how you want to count.
The Persona 1&2 writers did Monark
>>687821896Does Monark also have a bad habit of introducing a bunch of random one off characters with big important introduction scenes only for them to never do anything at all?
>>687819070You can't sell the self-insert fantasy without a total revamp that might as well just be a new fucking game at that point.
>>687819070No calendar, no social links, everyone switches personas, etc.They are so brainrotted by the modern Persona formula that I would not be surprised if they're permanently stuck trying to figure out how to make 1 and 2 into games that follow a calendar let you date people.
>>687819070>Why is Atlus hesitant to revisit the first two Persona games? Shit’s getting ridiculous at this point.Why would there ever be an expectation for that? Most 90s jrpgs are long forgotten
>>687821938I dunno, never bought it
>>687821719It's still all grafted onto P4
>>687821257Eternal Punishment was legitimately difficult.I've heard its just the PSP version of IS that was fucked by the difficulty, I know for a fact at least that they altered the battle system and fucked it (EP PSP fixed it and restored the PS1 system)
>>687819070Shit characters Shit setting Shit storyShit artShit music Shit combat
>>687821006They already ruined the soundtrack in the PSP port of P1 by changing most of the music to sound like P3.
>>687819070hopefully they remake P2 and add dating sim elements as I want to fuck Lisa
>>687820702based and redpilled>>687820956cringe and mexican
>>687823792https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGuJxVU0sSY
>>687823582No. I've played the PS1 version of both.
>>687820702Based>>687820956Onions redditor who complains about the tower of babel in Xenogears
>>687821896The FuRyu slop hell. They've moved on to trying to make their own fucking Versus 13 now but they have no talent for actually designing games. It's all aesthetics and character designs
>>687825682reddit sucks off 2 nonstop as well, retard. it's the hipster fake fan choice and that's not a thing unique to 4chan
>>687826103kek this mexican is raging now
>>687826210Why Mexican of all things? What does that have to do with being smart enough to realize p1&2 are bad?
>>687826210Why are you conceding?
i want persona 6 and 7, no more in house spinoffs and remakes by main p-studio
>>687826210Do Mexicans even know Atlus, let alone Megami Tensei and Persona exists?
>>687826359>>687826424ONDELEY ONDELEY ARIBBA!
>>687826465Yeah six can come next and then they can remake 4 if they really want to.
>>687826528kek mexicans go wild for persona just like they do king of fighters and dark souls
>>687819603Isn't fixing bad gameplay an actually good reason to remake something?
>>687826607Yes... But slop consumers would rather play Persona 3 Demake which has literally worse balance and aesthetically inferior to FES
>>687826210KEK BASED
>>687826607Oh I'd actually be happy if they did a remake that completely overhauled the gameplay, don't get me wrong. That would definitely be a remake worth making. though truthfully I'd rather see a modern English poet of If... That game is unironically super fucking cool. Way way cooler than either p1 or p2. Plus it's sadistic as fuck and hates you, so even difficulty fags can get off to it.
>>687826821>slopWhen the beans got burnt and papacita forget to buy tortillas
>>687826528Of course, I remember my friend's girlfriend got fucking mad at me when I told her about Hitler in 2Dumb fatso refused to believe he appeared, I even told her he was a villain but she couldn't stop shouting and flailingI hate mexico
>>687826821Worse balance? Not really. Early game being hard and late game being piss easy is standard for FES hard mod. Plus the social link and character stuff is all a huge addition to the game.>>687827053Is this a new schizo gimmick then?
>>687827201you tell em, pedro! viva la california!
>>687827201>Is this a new schizo gimmick then?as if it wasn't obvious
>>687819070because they don't have dating elements and remaking them would take time for something people may not like.If anything, next they are remaking P4
>>687826210FUCKING LAWL
>be mexican>see mexicans getting trash talked online>get mad about itGOLD!!!
>>687827201>Dash speed that can outrun every enemy and casualizes tartaros progression >Dude green lmao Nah, fuck Demake
>>687827378Bitch, you could casualize Tartarus by opening and closing the menu in FES to always get backstabs / run past things. Also you don't get the super run until after the point when FES stops being remotely hard anyways (like block 3)
If anything I actually wish Reload had changed more like fixing the godawful amount of breaks / skipped days that make doing school social links in the back half of the game frustrating.
>>687819070they are just too hardcore and mature for their current softsided and immature audience
