They wanted to turn this turd into a franchise. LMAO.
Concord fans aka devs, STAND DOWN
>>689435009>400milMy God, no wonder Sony is rising the prices on everything.
>>689435009>future of playstationwell it wasnt wrong
>>689435009
>>689435009post yfw when you saw concord's failure from a million miles away
>>689435460kek
>>689435460Snoybros...
Something viewed in that light at any point internally does not get completely shitcanned after 10 days. Something doesn't add up
wukong cost 70 million to make btw, it's joever for the west
I want to try Concord, I hope they make it FTP.
>The future of playstation is bankruptcySeems legit
>>689435009>The devs spent $200 million just to get the game to alpha state before the studio was bought by Sony, and it was in such a terrible state that Sony needed to spend another $200 million trying to fix it. All of this because they thought they could turn it into the next Star Wars
The Tortanic of this generation.Congratulations/v/, you can update the memes
>Killzone>Horizon: Zero Soul>Concordhow long until he gets fired for gross incompetence?
>>689435479People who use this image of the laughing mexican man nowadays are faggots, I'm gonna pray you aren't one for your own good.
>400 millionsNah
>There are faggots who said Sony "didn't support the game enough/didn't give it a chance"What the hell are they on, Sony basically bet their lives on this game.
>>689435479Everyone did, it's not even worth bragging about it.
>>689435460god I fucking wish
>>689435580I mean, after it sells that terribly, you don't have that many options
forgot to attach my Hulst
>>689435460
Makes sense with PS5 Pro and 30 year anni shit too. They really were expecting this to be a huge hit and then sell a shitload more PS5s
>>689435639Tortanic and Concord can coexist, one is a naval failure, the other is aviation related. Now we just need some land based vehicular failure of a game
>>689435009>$400mil
They can look at surveys and views and other data to gauge interest in the game, so this is all bullshit. They could have cancelled it years ago but Sony put them out to die intentionally. Same old EA tactics.
>The Future of PlayStation
>>689435009Source, btw:>>https://x.com/longislandviper/status/1837157796137030141It's pretty interesting hear him talk about the "toxic positivity", something that another source also corroborate. These motherfuckers were so detached to reality. And another
>>689435009>Toxic positivitySo one major reason it failed is because no one was able to take a look at this and say "You know, this is kinda ass" and get them to course correct.
>>689435882how about gorillatonic?
>>689435009The first trailer was literally a copy-pasta of Guardians of the Galaxy, it was very obvious they wanted this shitshow to be their new big IP. Sony just stopped trying to hype it up after the initial lukewarm reception and pulled the plug after it sold like shit.Sega did the exact same thing with Hyenas and the "Super Game platform" project. Japs are fucking retarded and fell for a even more retarded version of the "we want the CoD audience" from two decades ago.
>>689435639>TortanicThis game ended up being profitable.
>>689435009Will losing 400m$ wake Sony up or is it still not enough? How the fuck did it get to this point?
>>689435936foam adventure vibes
>>689435639SWTOR was a success now matter how much you try to fit in
>>689435696>Everyone didexcept everyone at sony, all the journalists, ubisoft, etc
>>689435460holy fuck lol
>>689435460How long does Sony still have? 3 years? 2?
>>689435009>400milWhat the fuck
>>689435882>the sinking ship>the plane crashlads we need a racing game to massively fuck up to complete this trifecta
>>689435009that was obvious. they paid amazon to have a full episode dedicated to the game before it had even been released, when long standing series' like god of war are getting some kind of crossover episode with other games.
>>689436087That only shows how bad things have gotten now.
>>689436030I think it did something considering how damn fast they shut the game down. The studio is also getting gutted and I think the director stepping down was a case of "You step down or we are firing you"
>>689435009>$400mNice
>>689436087Original mission statement was to be a "WoW killer". You know, back then before Blizzard did it themselves.
>>689435959According to this guy, no one was allowed to say ANYTHING even remotely negative about the game in the studio.
>>689435009If they felt that way, why didn't they hire some Japs to make actually appealing designs that would draw people in. or even just copy the ones from Overwatch.
KEKAROOOOOOO
>>689436315>I think it did something lol
>>689435639Tortanic but for real this time.
Can the people who cope saying the character designs didn't hurt the game explain how the very first thing anyone is going to notice about a hero shooter, the grand visual introduction to the product, is irrelevant to its failure?
>>689435009>That $400 million DOES NOT include what Sony spent on buying the Firewalk team
>>689435580The playerbase was literally so low people were struggling to find matches at all in nonpeak hours.Sony was basically paying to run a server for only a handful of players. There was no way they could break even at that point.
>>689436021was that before or after disabling the ability to unsub from the game at the end of each month, and claiming it was a bug?
>>689436391Also according to this guy, Concord was Hermen Hulst's baby. He was the one who championed the game the most. The future of PlayStation is grim.
>>689436489This shit just gets better and better lmao
>>689435009This is way beyond just being in a bubble, this is straight up living in a complete delusion. And they still got like 3-5 more games in the making that are just like Concord. They never going to financially recover from this.
>>689436447Is this another 400 million? I hope it is.
>>689436127you realize that sony isnt just playstationsony's main thing is life insurance
>>689436447Anything spun to media is going to make anything sound positive. It's like when they shut Concord down Sony was trying to word it like "We are figuring out the best direction to it" implying it will return when everyone knows that it isn't coming back.
>>689435460reddit post
>>689435580You can delude yourself only up until the cold hard numbers come in.
>>689435945and the funny thing is that gameplay-wise the game was fine. It was just destiny PVP but as it's own game.
>>689435009>toxic positivitynow where have i heard that before...
>>689436397>or even just copy the ones from OverwatchYou need chinese devs if you want to copy-pasta designs like that.
>>689435009When will we see an overt rejection of toxic positivity in the game dev community? Seems like a common thread between Concord and Suicide Squad
>a dev culture of toxic positivity
>>689435009I’m baffled. Did they really think some hero shooter with guardians of the galaxy cinematics would be some smash success?
>>689436127Sony as a whole has a fuck ton of money from their other ventures this wont impact them much.The Play Station brand though is likely to receive shakeups and managarial heads are likely to roll.
>>689435460holy kek
>>689435009$400 not including how much it costed them to buy the studio by the way.
I smell a lie. As far as I could tell, Sony gave this shit 0 marketing. The trailer at that game expo was literally the first time I had ever heard about it.
>>689435460KEKAROO
>>689436670they're gonna needed when they die
>>689436127two more weeks, trust the plan
>>689435580The dumb kikefornians legitimately believed the goys would just slurp that shit like usual.Too bad this was somehow the straw the broke the camel's back and every single wokeslop started crashing and burning hard after it, even the ones attached to beloved franchises like outlaws and that LOTR show.
>>689436021wasnt concord the one where it barely recouped its marketing cost but still had the cost of development
>Ape Escape>Gravity Rush>Bloodborne>Parappa>Patapon>Loco RocoAll of these died for Concord
>>689435460>microsoft is exiting the console market in every way but actually doing it>sony is making consoles with nearly no games that can't be played better on another platform>nintendo embraced paid online, but removed a bunch of online functions like streaming video or whatever to avoid homebrewing, and is desperation-suing a company for having creatures and catching, something like 3.5 years after the trailer showing creatures and catching was releasedI am so glad I exited consoles entirely when the PS4/switchU/Bone generation was still new. It's masochism at this point to keep paying for one of those retard boxes
>>689436743Hey look, it's Immortan Joe.
>>689436892None of those games sold well. Its understandable.
>>689436837What? Sony promoted this shit as the second coming of multiplayer games.
>>689435460Fuck sake anon
>>689435936
>>689435460Snoys on suicide watch.
>>689436837>im sure they spent all that money just for funNever underestimate the stupidity of the state or big corporations
>>689435580it adds up fine when you factor in a complete and utter detachment from the people who are supposed to be your customers.EGS genuinely thought it was going to shake up PC gaming and throw a wrench into steam's works, at the same time their shills insisted that we compare 2020's EGS to 2000's steam.
We must never let the world forget about Concord's failure so they stop doing the things that made it a failure.
>>689436837Are you blind? Concord has massive amounts of marketing, they were pushing it hard. It was their biggest release of the year.
>>689435009KWABOTY
>>689436892Why does modern Sony hate Japanese games so much???
>>689435460It sure wasn't.
>>689436701media and game journos are all paid shills, you can just say it
>>689435009>$400m>Four hundred million dollars.
>>689435009isn't sony owned by japs? why were they retarded enough to throw 400 million at this siht?
>>689436064ohfuck
>>689435460Good post
>>689435936i have literally seen AI make better designs than this, i even saw a lot of them on a thread where a rando anon dumped AI generated moba characters
>>689436971>>689437076I know I'm right, because when the trailer was playing 99% of people commenting thought it was Guardians of the Galaxy.
How can TORtanic be a thing when TOR has been a huge success and is still played a decade later?
>>689437104Japan is mostly indifferent to modern Sony as well. The Hokkaido Serial Murder Case just released for the Switch, and it sold almost as much in Japan than Astro Bot in two weeks.
>>689435936>I-IT LOOKS GOOD! CHARACTERS DON'T NEEED TO BE SEXY-Concord dev
>>689435639People have already made a good example of Brink being a failure, despite selling like 3.5 million. Failure back in 2011 and failure now seems to be completely different things.
>>689436489HOW
>>689437373You weren't supposed to point this out.
>>689435460OH NO
>>689437290Well, everyone with a functional brain could tell that this game was destined to failure from that one trailer alone.
>>689435936Guacamole outfit?
>>689437274
>>689436670I'd be okay with just Playstation dying
>>689436971Wait, people play Horizen? Seriously?
>>689435009>400millI could make you 400 games with that budget and all of them would sell better than Concord.
>400 million dollars
>>689437554this looks trash too
>>689435936the deadliest pineapple
>>689437382https://sites.google.com/site/gamedatalibrary/
>>689435389Genuinely how?Where do these costs go on a pie chart?Like how much is fancy fucking hardware or something?
>>689436971It'll be on a lot of 'biggest flops' lists i'll give him that
>>689435786>It's not about money, it's about sending a message...
>>689435460xth post best post
>>689436489Imagine spending more money than the GDP of small countries on trash that lived a shorter life than the lifespan of a housefly.This shit is legitimately the biggest flop in gaming history bar none.
>>689436837>front and center during sony's e3>multiple shoutouts from successful studios>"0 marketing"lmao
>>689435460Based
>>689437237It was pretty much aggressively taken over by Americans. It's a Californian company now.
>>689436447That's what they said about Concord lmfao
>>689435460put me in a fucking screencap
>>689436971>Horizon>Most important franchiseThis Nepo narcissist hire is literally going to kill Playstation isn' he?
>>689436964They all sold better than Concord.
>>689437762>August 23Thanks for proving me right. 0 marketing before the trailer, then release.
>>689435460Unfathomably based
>>689437762dont forget that it's getting it's own episode in a tv show
>>689435460oof
>>689435009Huh, there's that word again. "Toxic Positivity" eh? Seems like it happens a lot for managers in Western studios.
>>689436153enter: CRAZY TAXI SUPER GAME
>>689437417We didn't think they could fail as bad as now back then.
>>689437886Not anymore it isn't. There's no way they let this air
>>689435009Lol
>>689435460Freedom Wars will succeed and Sony will see what could have been.Maybe this will spur soul sacrificemaybe a ragnarok Odyssey on PC
>>689436743call it copypasta but these legitimately look better than overwatchthe nigger commando on the top left looks kino, same with that cyborg alucard looking ass in the bottom left
>>689437862>nitpicking alreadyit had the longest showcase in sony's version of e3. cope harder lmao.
I don't know why people are so confused about this. Seems pretty normal by todays standards. They call it positive reinforcement. Everyone just pretends to radiate happiness and joy. It's like watching zombies. They don't use this hyperboles because they believe in them, but because they think repeating that shit over and over again will trick your brain into sending hormones that make you happy. It's a form of self hypnosis. What it actually does is drive you fucking insane and if you keep it up long enough it dissociates you from reality.
>>689435009>The Future of PlayStation>diespls let it be true
>400 million dollars on this bullshit but won't fund a bloodborne pc release
>>689435009Wasn't there an obnoxious employee who called himself Professor or some shit?Did he get what he fucking deserved? If not, when will he pay for being a faggot?
>>689437904>managers in Western studios.And oddly all of them are the woke studios.
>>689437104it really is a fucking mystery aint it
>>689436802Bungie was supporting them
>>689436127Not long. They were operating on a margin of approximately 6% when they were raking in this year's earlier game sales like Helldivers 2. For the laymen in this thread, that means they're not making any fucking money. Every game they make has to have the same budget as the last one while also making the same amount of money, or alternatively a lower budget. Otherwise, they immediately collapse.With that in mind, Concord just released to something like 25,000 sales worldwide with a budget higher than most Hollywood movies, which alarmed Sony and all of their developers who are working on similar games that are supposed to be their lineup for the rest of the generation.Sony effectively started funding a large number of dead end flops while always living paycheck-to-paycheck. The only "recoup" they have possible is to mass port everything they can onto PC, but they're too late - we've already got Bloodborne.
>>689435009KNIGHTS OF SLOPPA BROSWE WON
>>689438032They revoked his tenure
>>689437697Over inflated salaries, COVID and "consultants".Not mention marketing bullshit.
>>689436486They think that "everyone but bigots" love the designs. Legitimately.
>>689435936Royal Ludroth?
>>689437925wasn't sega's super giga game that Hynas bullshit?
>>689435009>playstation5pro price is high because colored armpit hair "toxic positivity" feminist hambeasts created a woketarded monstruosity which lost Sony 400.000.000$
>>689437904Toxic positivity is just a way to not say cult or religion, don't know why they hate themselve so hard and don't want to aknowledge it
>>689435591To be fair. Wukong developers probably weren't paid what they're worth.
>>689435936this just visually appalling you feel violated looking at it
>>689437554>that mecha nigress>that bottom left spartan ultrachad>thet bottom right traditional merican soldierunironically kino
>>689438043Wonder what excuse Bioware will come up with. See, it wouldn't be their first rodeo. Back when Anthem was being made, management silenced or banned any mention of other competing looter shooters like Destiny to avoid comparisons being drawn fostering more of this "toxic positivity".
>>689436971it's pretty funny how out of touch execs are, ubisoft made the same mistake thinking they could take on CoD
>>689438136I'm surprised people even give a shit. I don't care what my character looks like. Do you think people of my generation were like "I don't want to play Donkey Kong, I feel uncomfortable playing as a fat Italian man."
>>689436153How much money do you think GTA will cost in total to develop?
if the numbers are legit, does this mean Concord is the biggest flop in entertainment history?
>>689437948the show is already done, why would they remove it at this point?
>>689438179Sega dunked it directly in the trash when some 80 IQ people finaly saw the result, they didn't even want to waste a few millions to finish it and end up like Concord
Not to be antisemitic or anything but we should do away with wealth and allow our works to benefit humanity rather than making someone rich who sucks and is likely a pedophile
>c-concord just didn't have any marketing!! believe me guys!!!it had less marketing than Helldivers 2.
>>689438128>Not mention marketing bullshit.oh no, that's the best partthat 400 million is just dev costs, it doesnt include marketing costs or the money snoy spent to buy bungie
>>689438160>Royal LudrothI was thinking the same.
>>689436892I'm still mad about Hot Shots Golf, especially with Nintendo also fumbling the bag with modern Mario Golf
>>689435009The $400m is 100% bullshit.
>>689438014that behavior starts in the college institutions that these idiots are graduating from, spending 6 figures to have their asses kissed as long as they are paying their tuition fees, when realistically this is when their work should be scrutinized the most - what you get is a graduate who thinks they can do no wrong and that the workplace should be a fun no pressure environment where every idea is considered, and so you get games like Concord
>>689435580live service games need to make money to justify further development and support.keeping a whole team of devs employed for ten players makes no sense.
>>689437382Does Japan use a period where we would put a comma?Like should I read it as 20,919 or is it 20.919% or somesuch?
>>689438293Because they erased the game from existence. Of course they're going to pull the episode. They're going to pretend it never existed
>>689438179Super Game is like a concept or standard Sega has for a bunch of games, ones that they expect to be worldwide high-sellers. Crazy Taxi and other franchise revivals are part of this initiative, as was Hyenas.
>>689435460i swear both karma and monkey paws have special cruelty reserved for kikes and their goylems
>>689438437huh, I thought it was referring just to Hyanas. I hope the crazy taxi reboot is at least alright
>>689435460hehe
>>689436030>"The issue" is never the issue >The issue is the revolution I wouldn't expect much to change. Some soros-esque libshit would happily cover the 400 mil loss on condition that leftist garbage continues to be pushed, and probably already is. >>689436315Oh no, the people ultimately responsible for this just HAVE to retire with full severance. Woweee, soooooo pwnt. Please wait for new studio full of the same kind of jackoffs making the same kind of slop and losing the same kind of money
>>689437554maining robo-pirate
>>689437417I think its an interesting look at the state of the industry as time goes on, primarily how excessive budgets are getting. Even the most ambitious projects back in the day cost only a fraction of what these do, and would target a far narrower playerbase, that while it existed, was often too small to turn a profit to these expensive projects. Whereas now these titles, such as Hyenas and Concord, are HEAVILY marketed as if they developer and publisher have knowledge from the future that it's the game everyone will be buying, and they seem to utterly insulate themselves from any outside opinions, or at least those that don't align with their perceptions of success. So they end up with a game that's far too expensive, is attempting to target a market that is charitably far too broad, or more realistically doesn't exist, and completely shutting out any sign that this might not work, because both the people making and funding these games do not understand how players think.
>>689437554I seriously hope John USA is in a committed monogamous relationship with Chingchong next to him.
>>689437752There's no way Hulst should keep his job after this but sonething tells me the Cali brainrot is too ingrained in the Playstation culture for that to happen now.
I would have charged them 50 million for codemonkeys and photoshop/3dmodel monkeys. They will never taste the greatness of Knights of Sloppa.
the only way for playstation to survive is make a humiliating deal with steam. allowing steam games and software on their platform while steam takes 25% and sony gets 5%. essentially making the playstation a successful steambox.sony should stick a fork in it desu.amazing how they fucked up playstation.
>>689438201they pretty much were, they were a small team by modern AAAA standards
>>689438338Christ. Thats enough money to develop like 10 games.
>>689437697Paying millions to consultants and DEI specialists to ensure the game is diverse enough and wont offend anyone. No, seriously.
>They wanted to turn this turd into a franchise.You must be slow, OP. We've known this for quite some time now. They did interviews with the devs, and they had a franchise coordinator. Thats right, a studio who had never made a single game, never mind a series, had a franchise director. That itself is pretty telling about how many useless fucking people were getting paychecks for concord.
>>689435009Lmao and we just had a Sony shill in an earlier thread telling us that no way it would have 200 mil budget
>>689438026Probably because PC gamers constantly talk shit about Sony.
>>689438409only american use dot for number
>>689436837They marketed it to the modern audience
>>689435580Without enough players to fill the hoppers, the game becomes completely unplayable. Leaving it on the store and the servers on were not going to turn it around
400 million is nonsense. That would put it firmly at 2x the production costs of RDR. With what funds? Fireplace or whatever they're called were totally obscure and didn't get bought by Sony until way late into development, and it's explicitly mentioned that the 400 million figure doesn't include the buyout price.So yeah, that figure is total hogwash. I like dunking on Concord as much as the next faggot but this kind of shit I CANNOT let fly in my kingdom.
>>689435009am i the only one that thinks there's some shady shit going in the background of this?there has to be some fraud and theft involved, this amount of money is simply too big to make sense in the context of the story we are being told.
>>689435009Bigger KWAB moment than Nash '92
>>689435009Well, we know what'll happen to playstation in the future. It's going to fail badly
>>689435460Gaystation 5 the ultimate movie player
>>689437237Its Jap in name but the games department is run by Commiefornia. Hence why all their modern movie games are shit.
is "toxic positivity" a gentle way of saying faggots and trannies>400m>not including the purchase of the studiolmao
Does anyone have a compilation of all the shitpost songs being made against Sony lately? Some of them have been pretty brutal.
>>689436153>>689438267>the auto game to finish the triangle may be gta6bruh
>>689436837>0 marketing on 4chanFixed that for you. I don't watch much normie video game news and I didn't really hear about this game til a few months ago, if that. I'm sure if your the type of person who still watches gdq and is subscribed to IGN you would have been well aware of the game
>>689435936Internally some devs LOVED it because it a reference to how the character hates swamps, but you need to grind for 100 hours to unlock the part of her backstory about her assasination mission on a swamp planet
>>689438949oh no rockstarbros....
>>689436971>PlayStation’s most important franchise of all time>HorizonThis is bait, right? He didn’t actually say this about a PS4 bundle-in title, right?
>>689438836not reallyin dev for a long timesony bought the company for that amount
>>689438764Rightfully so.
400 million. Woooooow.How fucked is Sony?>>689437762It was also featured in Snoys last SoP, where it took up 3/4 of the timeslot
grifter thread. grummzcord is attacking concord agan after the positive reception of veilguard.
>400mthe titanic cost less than 200m when taking inflation in consideration btw
>>689439069>positive reception of veilguard.
>>689439098it also lasted longer
>>689439121>positive reception of veilguard.
>>689439098Costa Concord-ia really was the TORtanic sequel we needed
grifter thread. grummzcord is attacking concord agan after the positive reception of veilguard..
>>689436015Except Yakuza did become a huge success, and Capcom figured out how to produce bangers again
>>689437948Unless Sony PAYS amazon out, its gonna air lol
>>689438905Harmful positivity? Isn't that just optimism in general? Do we have to clarify that being optimistic can be unrealistic?
>>689439098WTF
>>689435009"men" (faggots) with toys and posters and shrines to their consumerism discussing work when theyve never worked a day in their lives is fucking everything wrong with the world today. these 3 should be in a work camp breaking rocks til they stop being homosexuals.
>>689439098At least Concord only killed his dev
>>689435009>SW-like potentialWhat the fuck are they smoking in California?
>>689436021Opportunity cost and time-discounting, anon. When you invest money, you expect a strong return, not a small profit after however many years.
>>689435661>the laughing mexicanhe's a fucking Spinard you dumb fuck
>>689435936Nobody likes the Royal Ludroth set, what were they thinking?
>>689437554That brazilian samurai is looking better than Ubi's Yasuke.
>>689439121if you keep spamming misinformation, maybe it will come true
>>689435460More accurate term would be the Fate of Playstation.
>>689435460Jej
>>689437554That skin tone with those features of the first girl. Real life girls should look like that
>>689439121Who is even excited about veilguard except the 0.02% of the population troons it's made for?
>>689439121>the cia doesn't exist>corporate shills don't exist>resetera trannies don't exist>but this one guy is making a 100 posts every minute on 4chanlmao jews are hilarious
>>689439156Actually it didn't, from its first sail out to the catastrophic sinking it only passed 4 DAYS.
>>689439098Yeah but they build 3 boats and nobody wanted to ride the other 2 after the 1st one sunk so it's technically a loss of 600m.One of the others was actually unsinkable btw, it went into combat and survived WW1 and sunk other ships by just ramming into them with its invincible hull.
>>689438996God curses those who curse swamps
>alright so this one's an assassin that looks like a clown, this one's a fat guy with bulky gloves and an evil a-a-assault rifle! (he uses it because he's an evil white guy), this one's a blue ape, and this one's literally just a fucking barrel.>OMG YASSS THESE DESIGNS ARE FIREEEEE!!!!!!!>personally i think we could try to give some of these more coherent themes. for example->UGHHHHHHH SHUT UP YOU HECKIN CHUD! FIRED FOR BEING SO NEGATIVE!!! DONT YOU KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT STAR WARS???kek.>>689438905not really but the overlap is so large that they might as well be the same thing.
>>689439334>One of the others was actually unsinkable btw, it went into combat and survived WW1 and sunk other ships by just ramming into them with its invincible hull.wtf really?
>>689435460KEK
>>689435009They thought it was gonna become so big that they produced these controllers.
>>689435639This is the actual Tortanic you meme shitters kept spewing about for years
>>689438905not explicitly, toxic positivity is when no one is allowed to say anything negative about anything without fear of repercussions or social ostracizationit's the dog with the hat sitting in fire meme saying,"this is fine"in this specific case, none one on the concord team felt comfortable stating that the characters they made were incredibly boring and ugly because the characters were created with DEI checkboxes involved that made them difficult to criticize think about how disingenuous people are here on /v/ when you say>why the fuck are there top surgery scars in the character creator???and their response is,"what, you don't like more options?"these people live in a hug box bubble and don't like people popping it, these modern game western game companies are adult daycares
>>689435936>we wuz legumes an' shiet
>>689439417sad part is that's actually quite a nice design
>>689438836>>689438825is it really that hard to believe when its obviously a game made by the tribe? do you guys think they care how much they burn?
How do you even spend that much money on a game without a single-player campaign? Where are the cinematics and shit that soak up most of the spending in these big projects? Was Firewalk Studios just an unemployment benefit for people who don't work?
>>689436724It wasn't
>>689436821They really, really don’t anon. It’s not like 20 years ago anymore.
if they aren’t going back to Japan who cares?
>>689438836It was 8 years in production I think. That with a big team full of useless diversity hires burns money left and right.
>>689435009Sounds like corporate-led creativity. Instead of having the devs and artists create the game, the suits decide "oh yeah, we're going to make the next (succesful idea that already exists) and it's going to sell extremely well, the consumers need to love it and make it popular, and it's going to drive profits to an all time high and make us the no.1 corporation in the gaming industry. That's what needs to happen, now send it to the devs and get them to make it happen".
>>689438905No, it generally refers to an environment where any and all "negative" feelings and feedback are shut out or quashed, so you put on a happy face and repeat the mantras in order to not be sent to HR by Big Brother.You can't tell the character designer that the latest three heroes be shat out look like dogshit, the writer who provides the backstory based on her old tumblr blog OCs, or the lore guy who's only interest is making sure every culture is completely sanded down and toothless, thst they did a poor job and need to try again or modify these things, because "this is a positive environment" so you have to bundle your criticism in so much fluff and false praise that it may as well not exist and nothing actually gets changed.
>>689439217Here's the answer
>>689439562They produced tons of long cinematics that were supposed to air weekly to keep players engaged with the characters lol
>>689435460FUNNYPOW
>>689439417>>689439525the real sad part was the fact the game itself was fine, maybe even good.
>>689438949Even if GTA6 was a 60 dollars jpeg of a turd it would sell, don't delude yourself, for it to flop Rockstar would first need to devalue the franchise so you'd have to wait GTA7 at least.
>>689438905I worked on Amazon Go and saw first hand how stuff like this happens. The higher ups claim they’d open 100s of stores when the technology didn’t work. And this was before outsourcing everything to India. That make too much money doing other shit that they can make these massive fails and get promoted.
>>689439723lol
>>689438701In japanese budgets that's enough money to fund two entire console generations and still have money left over to waste on smaller filler games.
>>689435460hue
>>689439562>>689439697why didn't they add a singleplayer/coop campaign anyway?even if this game succeeded it would have been raped by cheaters
>>689435009The whole thing about toxic positivity is probably true. Devs saw the shitshow coming from far away but the people in charge probably went "nah it will do ok"
>>689439723no it was not, overwatch was never good and the gameplay was discount overwatch with even worse UI.
>>689435936You know, these abominations make me wonder what woke people actually consume in terms of media - like the stuff they truly enjoy or what they're inspired by in terms of creative osmosis that drips to their work; because goddamn, their taste is especially atrocious.
>>689435460This entire situation makes me believe simulation theory more and more. All they have to do is not tow the ESG Larry fink line and make fucking normal ass video games. It's not hard to start cranking out exclusives like the PS1 era. JRPGs, shooters, GAMES not trans women nigger simulators. Make fucking GAMES. Make Legend of Dragoon remake or something for fucks sake its not hard to be successful. How are they fucking up this hard? Nintendo understands cranking out exclusive games and its working very well for them. How has Sony not grasped this?
it was 200m which is still fucking retarded
Would Concord have done better if it was a movie instead?
>>689439638Nah, it was a clear that the developers wanted to make this game. Sony just gave them a check.
>>689439829Multiplayer only wannabe e-sport slop is the hill these companies want to die on
>Toxic positivity>No negativity in the dojoTime is a flat circle
>>689439020There’s 5 Horizon games in development. The head of the studio that made Horizon is head of PlayStation now.
How could they be so out of touch?
>>689435389Well... they weren't wrong about it being the future of Playstation then. They just didn't specify it being a good future.
>>689439909I really hope playstation takes note of astro bot's success and concord's catastrophic failure. Whoever approved of concord should be sacked.
>>689435009>The Future of PlaySt-ACKKK!
>>689436447You can't criticize games with obese black gay justice warrior characters, or you'll get referred to HR and talked to about your obvious bias against marganilzed people. Everyone working for these companies is either completely brainwashed or scared to go against the grain.
This still has an episode in Amazon's game anthology show. I wonder who paid who for that privilege.
>>689439685How many of them are hiv infected. How long hiv survives outside of body?
>>689439968Its so over
>>689435009The real interrogation is, will Sony ever take insight and self-awareness about the failure? Will they take any action over this? Or are they gonna double down on the woke devs? If they don't even learn, then what's the point.
>>689439894Probably Netflix shlop. I can't watch 5 minutes of it without cringing but apparently some people watch that all day, so it must be them.
>>689439723How would you know? Are you one of the 40 lost souls who bought it?
This is the future of gaming industry. either you are with us or we will send fbi to your homes
>>689440046>Astro bot's successOH NONONONO HAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>689435009Toxic positivity fags get blown out
>>689440125This project is a pet project for sure, no way a random suit can just show up with a random new ip and make PS spend 400m dollars on it. The whole rumor about being Jim Ryan's project is probably true.
>Sony burned 400 million for an overwatch clone that died in less than a week
>>689440216dumb shitposter
>>689440125Sony paid Amazon to produce it. Which is why it will still air, Amazons not gonna idly sit on wasted material
>>689440136I think it's weird that Concord flopped while these games thrive.
>>689439894Wokies don't play games; they hate games, especially gamers. They want to destroy gaming because they see it as a white male hobby.People are mistaken when they think these people want to use video games for leftist propaganda. This isn't true at all. They just want to create the most lame, gay and abhorrent media possible to try and sink the vidya industry because white men like video games. Pure, 100% spite.
>>689435460HAHA JA BAAAAAMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aSjwum95Bc
And none of this will matter when GTA6 comes out and ever nigger spends their stimulus (it's coming) on a muhfuggin ps5pro
>>689440136Do they plan on bundling every single one of those with the consoles they sell? Because that’s the only way they can get anyone to buy this shit. Horizon will never be the cultural icon they want it to be.
>>689440248>This project is a pet project for sure, no way a random suit can just show up with a random new ip and make PS spend 400m dollars on it. The whole rumor about being Jim Ryan's project is probably true.Like, not even GOW Ragnarok and Spiderman cost this much, you need to have someone BIG in that company supporting you to get this much money into a project.
>>689440136>16 Horizon games in developmentDear god….
>>689440046bro, they are remaking horizon 1 and days gone, sony is too far gone
>>689439894They enjoy childporn obviously, but you also have to remember they don't give a single fuck and just work for the money since the result don't matter for the worker.
>>689440156didn't they already blame toxic racist nazi gamers for not wanting to play their horrible abomination slop?
>>689440336Like, sure. It will make money, but i doubt PS wont think at least twice before they greenlit a new gaas like Concord. This is a fumble that is making them rethink all their future gaas plans for sure.
please use your brains /v/, 400m makes absolutely zero sense.naughty dog is playstations most expensive studio and they never have gotten close to that budgetThe early reported 200m costs are the real costs
>making it cost $400mFINALLY an actual fucking number. Anyone who kept repeating the retarded $200m figure because someone happened to say it was $200m because they happen to hear it was $200m from some other retard NEEDS to kill themselves.
>>689436743>immortan joe with a minigun revolverlmao
>>689435639Costa Concordia is objectively way worse than TORtanic. TOR still made millions people just shit on it and it’s still around today.
>>689437554Post their voicelines.
>>689435460Sony bros...
You guys are insane. No FUCKING WAY does this cost 400m.Team is too small.Barely any marketing outside of the State of Play.Barely any content in the game.Cinematic animations are uncannily good but not enough of them to pump up the cost that much.Surely it's AT MOST 150m maybe 200m if we account for that weird Amazon shilling too.
>>689440473200 million was a reasonable estimate for a game that took 8 years to make including Sony buying the developers a year ago. Nobody expected it to be worse than that.
>>689439056>a State of Play>without 1st party stuffWhat? That cant be right, huh? What the fuck are they gonna show us then?
>>689440471If they were going to make Concord the future of Playstation and it will be the defining IP of an era like Star Wars was, it was likely they had a lot of shit in the pipeline outside of the game that contributed to its cost.
>>689437274BASED KNIGHTS OF SLOPPA CONNOSIEUR
>>689440473I think that was the budget of Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima that's why they went with that number.
Why do these companies value their own money so little? Like they genuinely don't seem to care how much money is wasted. Shouldn't Sony be absolutely fucking furious that this company of LA weirdos wasted all their money?
>>689435460Delete this
>>689437554kino
>>689435661kekw man is based, fuck you pendeho
>>689440473Probably 200m on then recent development, which is crazy but not far fetched.400m is absurd and put whole thing on Hiroshima tier bomba
>>689438780I think your bad English is fucking you up. The USA uses commas for whole numbers with 4 or more digits. (1,000 - 22,000 etc)>>689438409These are sales numbers and you can't sell a fraction of a game. So for US replace the periods with commas.
He's the future of Sony
>>689440591>le estimatefuck off>>689440629Yeah, and retards just kept fucking repeating it. Fucking ridiculous.
>>689436724>It was just destiny PVPso it was total rancid shit?
>>689437554Why aussie looks like bara faggot?
>>689440591>buy developers >fire everyone and hire trannyhere the problem
I knew that all the kike journalists running defense for this trash ass game weren't being honest about the costs. It was in development for 8 fucking years, it definitely went over a hundred million, but for some reason a lot of people are saying it was only a hundred million.
>>689440717>Little Big Planet but more shit is the futurekek
they are going to make 1b of gta 6 without even including microtransactionsyou are severely overestimating the effect of this gigaflop on playstations financials
>>689440630Money shall be made somehow, eventually. TORtanic is an apt comparison becaues it ended up making money eventually, same with Final Fantasy 14.
>>689438412sony already confirmed it's staying in. this was after they pulled the plug on the game.
Do you guys think that someone will leak the Concord cinematics at some point
Working in creative fields seems nice. Everyone just being positive all the time. I work for Big Pharma and its exact opposite. Its constant negativity and criticism and stress.
>>689438259xdefiant is actually fine outside of the netcode and payload gamemodes
>>689435460Too based for this board
>>689440583If the game is being made for 8 years i can see it being true. It has massive production levels, the game looks souless but still has shit like mocap for every character and every scene.
>>689437554>Italy>White and blue eyed
>>689440583>Barely any marketing outside of the State of Play.Gotta stop you there. Concord has gotten a ton of IRL ads and ads on the internet. It was heavily marketed everywhere.
HAHAHAHAHA
>>689440595Well they WERE going to show the Concord roadmap, but lol... lmao....
>>689440471You have to keep in mind the cost of the studio. Early info indicated a cost of development anywhere from 100-250, but not the purchase price. This new insider info suggests the cost of the studio was 200 million, hence 400 million total.
>>689435460hilarious
The budget for some of these modern games are absolutely retarded.
>>689440998>301 KBbro??
>>689439968>The head of the studio that made Horizon is head of PlayStation now.
>>689440859It's not that great, it sucks when you can see a trainwreck coming but know feedback wont help because the retarded manager says everything will be ok. Before cyberpunk released in a broken state every dev knew things were bad.
>>689435945>These motherfuckers were so detached to reality.That's what happens in ivory towers.
FOURHUNDREDMILLIONDOLLARS
how does a CEO tell the shareholders they spent $400 million on the worst investment in the history of gaming?
>>689439020it's fake
>>689440717If they're really ranking stuff as "Major Franchises" vs "Emerging IP", Gran Turismo should be about a fucking mile above everything else on this chart.
>>689439909faggotry is not the answer but I doubt more remakes and just making what was already made is the answer too, in the end I just accepted the once visionary people in the industry either got out or got all of their authority removed because this is all creatively bankrupt
>>689435460snoybros they're laughing at us...
>>689441085They dont. They'll just beat around the bush, use some deceiving wording, blame the market (consumers) and then pay them back when Call of Duty 2025 drops or GTA 6
>400 milThey could’ve resurrected every single one of their dormant ips with that kind of money and still had some to spare.That is actually insane.Legitimately how is it even possible to invest so much time and money into a total lost cause and NO ONE speaks up to say how fucking bad of an idea it is? Don’t they have focus groups for this kind of shit? Corporate culture is an absolute mystery to me, this is alien logic.
>>689441085It's Sony - They're used to it. If they sell like five PS5 PROS they'll have made that money back.
>>689435460Ouch!
>>689441085by fucking off before it happened, the person responsible for this mess is jim ryan
>>689439449This is the answer here, how do we combat that?
>>689441040That's what happens when have graphics fags as an audience
>>689440818>Just realized Ratchet & Clank is nowhere to be listed on that report indicating the Insomniac leak is true where either R&C gets a game by 2029 or that game is canceled altogether since it's very early into pre-production Total Platformer Death. Astro Bot is the only platformer there.
>>689440583>Team is too small.160 devs in Bellevue, probably one of the most expensive living locations.8 year dev time. Hired 3rd party animators for way too many cutscenes that were supposed to air weekly for years.Mocap for every character and scene.Marketed at several opportunities since the reveal. Paid Amazon for an entire TV episode. The acquisition costs plus previous Sony funding. The 40$ pricetag in a F2P genre makes sense when you think about it.
>>689440630Once your stock is traded, company are basicaly just in survival mode and HAVE to try no matter how to make more money for the investor.Even if everyone sell the same shit for 10 cent they would be legaly forced to keep working until the bankrupt just like tupperware dud.
it’s just so much money it’s insane like what an utter waste of economic activity
>>689435460No matter how many times you samefag to this, it won't change the fact that pc gaming is dying
>>689441246not really, alan wake 2 looks fucking amazing and it only cost 70mthe real cause is extremly fucking high salaries in the west coast of america
Sony will probably go the sega route around 2025 at this rate. the amount of money they're burning is staggering and I doubt they have any idea how to manage their fundings for shitshows like this. this did not need a bigger budget than god damn spider man
>>689435580Above all else, this was a multiplayer only game. Meaning in the event of a launch failure this catastrophic, there isn't any game to sell. You can't have the few customers buying in to it immediately come to find they must now wait extended periods of time just to find enough other players to get a game. This was not free to play, either. Multiplayer only, $40 pay in mandatory, no players. You can't try to salvage that.
>>689441273there's a lot of concord animations on youtube as promotion material, that couldnt be cheap either.
>>689440297It's fighting robot dinosaurs and Aloy was cute in the first one.
>>689438258They'll blame the economic incel nazi terrorists who can somehow magically hold all the disposable gamer income hostage in their NEET basements!As you say, not biowastes first rodeo.
The state of the industry makes me want to cry.So much money and manpower wasted.So many potential perfect games never made because they had to fund gay niggers in space.
>>689441307>Mobile declined as welloh no, mobile is dying too!
>>689440297Do Horizon fans exist? Like people actually invested in that shit.
Do corps just not do market research anymore? They didn’t even think to test the waters and get an approximation of what public reception might look like before dumping everything they have into it?
>>689435009can you keep the hate on your nazi site???? you're harassing REAL artists ya know
>>689440969a literal who studio with no prior games is not going to be 200 million, that's what sony paid for insomniac
>>689441307>>689441497Now go look at who Aldora are lmao
>>689439968>>689440136bruh, let is die, jesus christ
>>689435460MAMMA MIA
>>689435460Reminder f2p live service was and still is the future it’s only a matter of time before another hits the jackpot.
>>689440717>lasting franchises>marathon>concord>fairgamesAre they fucking retarded?Now I see why Arrowhead got forced into meeting with Sony who told them to swallow their pride and fix their 98% reduction in playercount.
this shit didn't cost twice as much as tlou2 part 2, don't be retarded
I really could care less about any of the money, because the commiefornia faggots are going to double down and pretend it wasn't a big deal.What I find profoundly hilarious and amazing are all those people who worked on this game for 5 - 8 years. Imagine how much this encompassed their lives? they genuinely liked this piece of shit game, they spent years of their lives agonizing over systems, designs, bugs etc and what do they have to show for it? a piece of shit that got shutdown 12 days after launch. That mental damage these "activists" pretending to be game devs are enduring is more valuable than the money.GG no re
>>689441592>failure at your own job>can't even handle online trollslmao what a bunch of retards.
>>689441587they did... in 2017
>>689439375do they really have 5+ ugly niggers in this game?
>>689436724Destiny PVP was fucking trash, worst maps ever, dumb as fuck objective placement. Worst of all, it is so pervasively bad that it negatively impacted the actual game and its guns/skills' "balance" in the real game.
>>689439638>>689439953yea bitch fuck off. fucking troon always blaming the fucking management lefties left to their own devices literally run everything into the ground.Disney, Ghostbusters, the list goes to infinity
>>689441565Some snoyboi posted a gallery full of Aloy/Snorerizont tattoos yesterday I loved how quiet he suddenly got when asked who many of those had likely finished the game
>>689441795It was 2016. They saw how big and popular Overwatch was and decided to chase the trend.
>>689435460i don't get it
>>689439968five, FIVE??
>>689439375>Only walking trash can and granny are somewhat unique
>>689441448The economic terrorism 1-step plan!Step 1: do nothing!
>>689440827>they are going to make 1b of gta 6 without even including microtransactionsYou realize there aren't that many PS5 users right? There's a reason why FFXVI flopped
>>689435009>>>/jp/47843361I fucking told you, ideas are golden, feedback is platinum.
>>689440583They have been in development for 8 YEARS, anon. And apparently, they spent 200 millions before being acquired by Sony just to get the game into an alpha state, and it was in such a terrible state, that Sony invested another 200 millions in order to fix it. That's not counting marketing, and the money Sony invested into purchasing the studio, btw.
>>689441916he is talking out of his ass, it's three.>horizon lego>horizon multiplayer by nexon>horizon 3
>>689435664Sony spent 2.5 Billion on Bungie alone so I wouldn't put anything past them.
>>689437697100 millions in internal communication100 millions on consultants100 millions on marketing90 millions on administrative, HR, etc9 millions on non-devs studio employees1 millions on code-monkey15$ on Fiverr for the models
>>689441960there are 60m ps5 usersif gta 6 ships 30m ps5 copies sony gets 30% of that
>>689442071And Bungie is now trying to put out a fucking hero shooter after fucking up destiny l which was ...Also a hero shooter
>>689441741>online troll>your art is uglypick one
>>689442019you forgot there is srsly already a Zero Dawn remake under construction, yes I am not kidding
>>689435479As a Sonybro I wished for Jimbo's failure, we've never wanted this PC arena slop.
>That $400M doesn't include the cost to buy Firewalkoh my fucking god
>>689441953damn bro im becoming more radicalized and extreme by the minute
>>689442179I thought they were turning marathon into extraction slop, are they doing a hero shooter too?
i truly believe this flop saved playstation from death by forcing a complete pivot back to singleplayer games
>>689435009>It cost 400 million dollars to run this game. For two weeks.
>>689435580You vastly, vastly underestimate how good DEI/SJW/leftists are at completely ignoring reality and convince themselves their extremism is shared by 99% of mankind.Then you get boomer upper managers who give 0 shit beyond what the marketing department told them is "hype" and "in" at the moment.
>>689442117Wait there's more
>>689442327it was an extraction shooter first but reviewed bad internally by tarkov players (yes really) then turned into a hero shooter and now turned into a class based shooter after concords flop
>>689435009>the only games that cost more to make were GTA5 and 6>both have made/will make billion of dollars>this generated literally zero revenue outside of the five people in the universe who bought physically and couldn't get refunds
>>689442473oof
>>689442431
>>689436724>>689441813That's what happens when you hire people straight out of current year Bungie. Bungie are so fucking retarded, they've been riding on Destiny since 2017 (coincidently when the studio became a mask off pozzed hellscape) and even they're struggling to keep things going
>>689442431anon its gta, it is going to sell so fucking much and it also does not have a pc version at launch
>>689440207what i'll always find funny about this one is just how hard they miss the mark.there are, and will always be, two categories of popular character:>an ideal of beauty >character with engaging narrative focus. be it character growth, a fun personality, or an interesting plot.those designs certainly dont hit an ideal of beauty, and you know damn well they wouldnt to try any of the narrative focus points, they are purely "ITS MY PERFECT MARY SUE SELF INSERT!"devs dont use designs like that (unless paid for by blackrock) specifically because nobody will fucking like them.
>>689435479i saw it 8 year ago way before the DEI and commifornia shitshow, the fact they wanted to produce 11 live service game in a saturated and already dying genre was topkek at this time
The game being completely wiped from the face of the Earth has to suck for he tiny number of people who actually liked it, though. Imagine buying a game and then never being able to play it again after a month.
>>689435460Oh no no no no
>>689435460KEEEKKKKK snoys and nintendies LOST
Cordtanic
>>689435460holy shit
>>689442406they ban all dissent from their spaces, it's that simple really
>>689437554Unironically would play.
>>689435460absolutely devilish
>>689442556GTA game made by millennials, all the old guards left
>>689435009The Tumblr generation is so cancerous they're actually potentially going to cause a second western gaming crash.>>689435479I knew Concord was only ever going to fail. But I couldn't DARE to dream that it'd actually be the outright industrial catastrophe that it is.>>689442556It'll sell much better than other current-gen games, but it's NOT going to be the same story as GTAV.
>>689442651>a monthI think it was 10 days
>>689441693>lasting franchises>marathon>concord>fairgamesAll will die by the hands of the expat frenchie
>>689440297>thrivebro, i dont know a single person with a PS4-5 that has even played Horizon, they all have the game, it came free with their system, these are apparently the thriving sales
>>689435460snoys not like this KEKKAROO
>>689442725That’s not going to stop from making a billion dollars.It’s one of the strongest brand names in all of video games.
>>689442760>going to cause a second western gaming crash.Good, there should be one. I hope Asscreed bombs as well.
>>689435882The condenburg. OH THE HUMANITY
>>689442760>going to cause a second western gaming crash.Good, hope the japanese who sold it to foreign retard do a seppuku live.
>>689435479meant to include on my post here >>689442760
>>689442760>The Tumblr generation is so cancerous they're actually potentially going to cause a second western gaming crash.What do you think is happening to Hollywood? It's burning faster than Babylon and the studio heads moving from fucking Hollywood to Nevada
>>689442813My younger brother actually played both games and then out of the blue one day told me it was a gigantic waste of fucking time.I think it’s literally a coping mechanism because the console has no fucking games.
>>689440717this is unironically grim
>>689435389half a billion dollars for less than a thousand players on steam
This fucking industry really needed this kind of massive failure for things to finally start change up. It will open many eyes.
>>689443006That low? Man, even that rerelease of 20 year old Marvel VS Capcom games is doing better than that.
>>689435460Please make it true
>nooo my GTA must sell! T-too big to fall Oh you summer children
>>689435009>halting any negative feedbackyou can't fake it til you make it in this industry. your consumers (or lack thereof) will eat you alive.
>>689438905It's not just that it's also:-blame-free culture ( read: no accountability )-you can't tell people their ideas are bad ( this is the big one )-you can't offend anyone for any reason. If a woman decides the characters breasts are too big, it gets redesigned.So what you have is>fags and trannies have their ideas ( which by itself, wouldn't necessarily be a problem )>men have their ideas>women shut down the male ideas but not the protected class ideas>The only ideas left are womens, fags, and trannies ideas ( with a smattering of the men's ideas that weren't deemed problematic )This is how you get a cunt yelling LOMBAX TIDDIES and making a potential iconic coomer character a flat chested dyke.
>>689435460prophetic
>>689438274By a substantial margin
Theyre gonna use the other playstation DEI game thats coming out now for their "future of playstation"
>>689442981Oh, I'm well aware of Hollywood. But Hollywood started as a slow burn earlier. Vidya is much more accelerated.
>>689443186Slit your throat /vt/ranny
>>689436724>It was just destiny PVP but as it's own game.Which was why it flopped! Nobody gives a shit about Destiny's PVP. Not even Bungie
>>689436802The claim seems to be that Sony and Hulst didn't care much about the game itself, what they cared about is that they can have their own Star Wars. What they really cared about was stuff like weekly cinematic and the Amazon show. That the Concord IP is worth more than the Concord game.
>>689442019Horizon MMO (separate from be on)Horizon 1 Remake
>>689443116Unfortunately this era of nepotism and toxic positivity is plaguing the entire entertainment industry, not just vidya.I don’t even know what could fix it short of total cultural collapse with how deeply ingrained the problem has become.
>>689442556i heard the same about outlawslook what happened
>>689435009Yes, a random dev knows exactly how much it cost. Fucking retards.
>>689443393it's gtaI don't like it but its gta
>>689442863One of the former devs said to lower your expectations, he even cried about review bombing
>>689442789>that nose
>>689438561It's so weird how we went from a time where a game like super Mario 3 was a highly ambitious project that took 2 years to make, cost a lot of money, and pushed the NES to the absolute limit while only being 3 MB to modern Western games that will take 5-10 years, cost tens of millions to make, never took the hardware to its limit, while also being OVER A hundred GB.
>>689435460>NO GAMES
>>689438381Underrated post. Society is failing because of this culture of narcissism from mediocre elites.
>>689443532Okay. That changes nothing.
>>689435460can't wait to see this on funnyjunk!
>>689436724No, that's baffling. Destiny PvP is garbage and was dwarfed by Bungie's own predecessor. It's insane to willingly copy it
>>689443190It's absolutely going to underperform to Rockstar's expectations. I can't believe people refuse to see this coming. They think the PS5/Xbox software market will somehow magically become what it was in 2013 and that day-one PC is somehow smart for them to write off this generation despite overwhelming proof to the contrary with the rise in day-one releases consistently showing strong sales share on PC.
>>689443546>Nintendo keep making trash console so only autism max can make a game that don't explode the console between loading screeni think they are into something
>>689438262>Rohld Dahl.jpgThere's a diffrence between an Appealing Design and a Pretty Character.
>>689435460Guys i don't get it
>>689435009holy shit this might be one of the biggest flops in the industry>>689435460kek
>>689436743>Recognize all the characters they're based onSasuga china. It's as if they know what the average /v/irgin knows
>>689443531Just like it was "But it's slop wars, dude!" yesterday?
>>689443846>holy shit this might be one of the biggest flops in the industryConcord - Sold 25000 Copies. (An extremely generous estimate, includes the steam keys sony gave away for free like candy, the review copies. And they had to refund them all anyway.)Atari E.T. - Sold 2.6 Million Copies.
What is with corporations becoming so arrogant they believe they have a smash success before the product is released?Oh wait I figured it out. Because by definition they have to believe that the product will be a guaranteed hit or the ((( shareholders ))) will cancel the project.
>>689435009>"The Future of PlayStation"they're not wrong
>>689441307>Sony going all in on PC slop just in time for turboflops and a console kino reissuancePlease let happen, let it be so catastrophic they move their headquarters back to Japan.
>>689443740losing dedicated handheld systems was a terrible blow for AA game development, gave devs an excuse to produce cheap and cheerful games at a higher risk
>>689443652For you maybe but the fact of the matter is if the rumor of 2 billion dollar budget is true there's no way I can see them making that money back cause most people have moved from consoles to PC
>>689436397>or even just copy the ones from OverwatchYou're living in the past, old man, new overwatch characters looked the same as those
>>689441307>pc gaming is dyingI've heard this since the early 90s
>>689444002Japan isn't a safe haven anymore look at what they did to Dragon Quest 3 remake
>>689443983>Because by definition they have to believe that the product will be a guaranteed hit or the ((( shareholders ))) will cancel the project.Hardly the only reason games are shit, but that was probably closer to the truth than anyone in the gaming industry will like to admit
>>689441592>THIS IS A PROFESIONAL SITE FOR PROFESIONAL WHERE WE ARE BEING PROFESIONAL
>>689437409you can have non-sexy characters with appealing designs that are good but concord didn't even have thatit's like they tried to make them as repulsive and bland looking as possible
>>689440717Every Sony fan needs to criticize this shit immediately otherwise the next 5 years of Sony are going to be ass
>>689444095> there's no way I can see them making that money back Increase ps+ cost again and remove more function because who need something else than double internet subscription
>>689439180kek
>>689442651I’m one of those people. I was genuinely having fun each night after work when I’m too tired to play a story heavy game. I have a physical copy, which I guess is gonna be rare now. Target relations e-mailed me for a return in the form of an e-gift card. So now I just have this dead physical copy. The memories of playing the game feel like a fever dream now. Sad
>>689441592>"keep your bullshit on twitter where everyone can continue to ignore you">whines on twitter Do they not have any sort of self-awareness
>>689444248Marathon is 100% dead since Bungie's CEO isn't plannning to sell his collection of overpriced cars to save the studio.
>>689435460He said the thing!
>>689444359Not being sarcastic but what did you like about Concord compared to other hero shooters?
>>689444182the kike fear reeks
>>689437554The first one is more inspired and soulful tan any of the concord characters. So she looks like an ancient mystical Egyptian chick, but her thing is she summons a giant golden mech? Do we have non AI slop character designs like this?And the fucking rocket sumo and based Australian with the mech bugs? He's like a robo entomologist or something? I really think character designs have stagnated because devs are worried about trans scar wounds and are too afraid to offend anyone.
>>689444182>Japan chasing trends while being years behind the curveFucking painful. Get ready for their own Concord in 2027.
>>689444375>Bungie's CEO isn't plannning to sell his collection of overpriced carsI am still laughing at that laid off cunt and her no-fly listing.>Eh girl, want to see my bentley?
>>689435460Kek
>>689444563>Get ready for their own Concord in 2027.Hyenas and FF7 demake already happened.
>>689444638>>689444638>>689444638Made a new thread since this one was dying, I transcribed the podcast for you fags
>>689435460i would normally agree but they did just drop that fire ass new astro bot game so idk
>>689435009You're fucking retarded if you honestly believe this game costed $400 million to develop. The source was either fucking with him or conflating the cost of acquiring the studio as part of the game's budget.
>>689444817the denial is strong with this snoy
>>689435580>Something viewed in that light at any point internally does not get completely shitcanned after 10 days.well it does when the flop is this absurd. see >>689443881
>>689436743I like cat winston
>>689435639The difference is, nobody even heard of Concord before it came out.
>>689444910Games that have been in development for longer periods of time with bigger studios have had much smaller budgets. You're letting your console warrior retarded cloud your common sense.
>>689436964>None of those games sold wellwell they sold better than concord. gravity rush sold three times the total sales of concord in one week in japan
>>689444563Japan's already got their equivalent, just it's with quantity with countless gacha games shutting down and shit like Foamstars rather than one huge project that crashes and burns
>>689443186Love yourself /vt/chad
>>689442556big oof, i forgot that rockstar does that shitbut i aint dropping hundreds of dollars just to avoid spoilers. DESU if i had to get a new console it would be playstation, simply because i've been on Xbox and PC my whole life, and PC does everything xbox does now
>>689436724destiny pvp is one of the worst ive ever played what the fuck were they thinking
>>689435389Sony can do so many easy things to make that money back, like releasing the Ratchet and Clank trilogy or Sly racoon games on pc. Yet they never will.
>>689444454I don’t play hero shooters, I’ve only ever played Overwatch, but what stood out to me was: the overall extreme polish, the presentation, the maps, the music, the color palettes, the balance in gameplay, the UI, no ultimate moves or whatever. THIS is where all the money went. And the people that played it know that it felt more like COD or Destiny than a hero shooter. So everything but half of the character designs, obviously.
>>689436087Yes, that's true. We're in a whole new world of failure never thought possible.Projects that cost hundreds of millions that make back NOTHING.It would have been totally unheard of previously.
>>689435460lmao
>>689435460put me in the screencap
>>689440704>you can't sell a fraction of a gameOh, my sweet summer child.
>>689435460Don't put this guy >>689437816 in the screencap.
>>689438071No one gives a shit about Bungie
>>689435009Biggest flop of the year.One of the biggest flops of all time.This bullshit definitely ain't the future of PlayStation.
>>689436879No, Concord made nothing.They refunded every one that bought.
>>689446495>One of the biggest flops of all time.not one ofTHE
>>689435009This shit is the most epic flop of all time in this industry goddamn
>>689443734I'm beginning to think you may be right. I don't see it bombing, of course. But selling under its projected target ? It doesn't seem impossible any longer.Maybe the market has changed, and there is no longer the same demand toward tentpole AAAA IPs - especially with a rising entry price (hardware).
