>supposedly a super popular top ranking game>millions of players, views, bajillion dollars earned >nobody ever talks about itWhat gives?
Most of it sucks but it has some orgasmic moments.
>>724487248It's popular with Asian wages who autoplay it on their phone. The gameplay is a powercreep simulator and story is terrible. Interesting setting though, and they do nothing with it.
>>724487248honkai impact is betyer
>>724487505I'm ready for the meltdowns once the next patch goes live
Hoyo games don't get discussed much here for whatever reason, beyond occasional ZZZ gooning. HSR has good story but feels extremely empty beyond that, the events are short and pathetic and end game is 15 minutes of content every 2 weeks. It's a pretty stark contrast to ZZZ that has constant and varied events/minigames and weekly end game but abysmal story.
>>724487248the story is shiti played it for the cute dino event
>>724487728We do get Genshin threads going (whenever the jannies don't delete them) and ZZZ sort of pulls through as well.I don't see HSR threads, ever.
>>724487728>Hoyo games don't get discussed much here for whatever reasonGenshin threads go to bump limit all the time when a certain creature doesn't delete them
>>724487637Why will there be meltdowns?I am caught up with the story but don't really follow leaks or anything beyond that.
>>724488043It's another HI3rd rehash, completely unchanged. Amphoreus gets wiped, it was never real, the Heirs never mattered and don't even appear for a fight, only Elysia gets to live, it was all a waste of time.
>>724488043I guess because of the huge weapon skin disaster
>>724488135KEKI kinda assumed that halfway through which is why I haven't been invested at all throughout.
>>724488135>unchangedAt least she had the courtesy to fucking die in Elysium Everlasting, now we'll have to deal with the pink blob forever.
>>724488135ouch
>>724488135>Another HI3rd rehashDo they have any originality left? Fucking hell the setting is crazy sci-fi space. So much they could do but they don't.Also feels like we're about due for another snoozefest in Not-China again as well.
>>724487248The gameplay is nonexistent number go up powercreep autobattling, so it only makes sense to view it as a VN. And for a VN the story blows.
>>724488013but they're horny
>>724488376>Do they have any originality left?Shaoji has told the same goddamn story at least 4 times so far, you'll get it once more until you appreciate his masterpiece and fuck his wife.>>724488557I'm not talking about the ERP threads, the actual game threads.
>>724488135so just play hi3rd instead?
>>724488376>Fucking hell the setting is crazy sci-fi space.Yeah they're really wasting the setting. It's even more infuriating that they've posted some cool space-focused trailers for 3.7 that are CN only for some stupid reason.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDog65lvoW4
>>724487248i recently checked out both genshin and honky after some years.HSR seems to have generally been managed better over the long term. it has a chronological display of all the quests, an archive of past events, gives you some pretty high tier units along with universal upgrade materials so you don't have to ruin immersion and jump to random new bosses etc to raise them.genshin meanwhile is lacking pretty much all that. the quest list is still a confusing mess, no event archive (although to be fair it has a stupendously massive world instead), the welfare units eh they are usable can be good just like any unit but not great (its mostly to give you some dendro units since thats a whole new element you will completely lack as a returning player). it only has a very basic tracking feature for enhancement materials but you still have to jump ahead to places and bosses to get them, which completely kills immersion and story. both are still very good quality and better than other gacha mobage though. just that genshin has become a bit unwieldly + the new update being some roblox shit i will never touch is extremely off-putting. thats my blog.
>Heralds the downfall of your entire combat system and slide into powercreep
>>724488719HSR/ZZZ both get quality of life updates while they absolutely refuse to give Genshin any kind of QOL.Why?Nobody knows.
>>724487248The Avatar of the gacha genre>supposedly the "biggest movie of all time">30 limbillion box office>no one you know has seen it>you havent seen it>you have never see someone talk about it
>>724488761BRATTY LITTLE HACKER
>>724488674Too bad it doesn't actually mean anything because they didn't build up to it at all.Motherfuckers spent a year on the nitty gritty of a world, only to then say it is just the 30 millionth iteration of the story, it doesn't matter, they all die to power up Elysia's MC pandering arrow, and they had to rush and show that this year wasn't a waste of time by rushing out trailers of what bad things would have happened if the crew weren't there.Maddening.
>>724488796>while they absolutely refuse to give Genshin any kind of QOLThey do, I can write pages of small positive changes they've added since launch. But it's an older version of Unity so probably a bitch to work with. Replayable events when?
Everything that happens around the main story is far more interesting than what happens in it. Radio news reports, documents you can pick up in areas, conversations that are just there to fill space. It's uncanny.
>>724487248That happen when you gacha also focus in making male characters instead of only giving us waifus
>>724489065Very interesting setting, garbage story. And the worst part about the setting is when they shove in Honkai stuff, instead of STAR RAIL stuff.
>>724489104see >>724488629
>>724487248>nobody ever talks about itnobody talks about it hereyou can find plenty of discussion elsewhere
>>724487248People who like games don’t bitch about them online
more like... shart rail*cue laugh track*
>>724487728>hsr has good story
Also while there are bright spots I don't care for Amphoreus' story and the detached, segmented nature of it.It's also where they really slid into characters being practically useless unless you duped them or had other limited characters as well. I guess all gacha falls into it eventually.The same thing is happening to WuWa so that sucks.
Still better than modern FF...
>>724489602that's a low bar
>>724489602The lowest bar possible.
>>724488719>it has a chronological display of all the questsIt's not Chronological.
>>724487248There are multiple threads every day on /vg
STELLE SEX
>>724487248It started pretty good so I'm assuming there is a lot of sunk cost players that don't want to give up.
I'm looking forward to 4.x and the new version of Blade.
>>724487248you spend about 300-600 Euros every month because the new character just don`t work without constellation and 5 Star Weapon and you pay an South East Asian Guy to grind & play that game for youThats how you play Honkai Star Rail
>>724489541To me the big downfall is how they stopped doing character quests and incorporated them to the main story. It completely kills the pacing sometimes and leaves the patches feeling even more devoid of content. 3.4 (or was it 3.3?) was basically just Phainon's background, the actual story progressed by a few minutes. 3.5 main story tried to bash in your head that you're in a hurry to beat Lygus except you then finally unlock the new area and have to spend hour+ doing nothing but listen to Hysilen's back story.
>>724489915Sparky
I do not care for the fool.
>>724487248The game is not aimed at brown people so thats why you dont see it discussed here, unlike zzz and its nigger asses which coincidentally is considered the best game by browns lmao
>>724487248A ton of people talk about it’s just faggots on /v/ don’t talk about it. Maybe if you left your bubble you could see that you stupid double nigger.
>>724490035Yeah it just turns main story into character of the month shilling. WuWa is also falling into that pattern too.
Too greedy. I quit a year ago because the powercreep and character release schedule and mandatory weapons were getting impossible to manage, and based on what I hear it's even worse now.
>>724488135If you played the game you already knew this, this isn’t anything spoiler worthy. All of them are programs
>>724490132Topaz has quite the tushy, though
>>724487248>nobody ever talks about it on /v/>Unlike ZZZWhich proves that /v/'s opinion is irrelevantHSR is super popular
>>724490569Yrs like you never see anyone talking about honor of kings but it’s makes the most money in the world
>>724490569thanks for letting me know whats happening on twitter i'm super interested.
>>724489915>HSR>Constellation>WeaponFucking bot.
>>724487248Amphoreous is too long dude. Waiting for five stars sampo
>>724487984Genshin is hard carried by the map and zzz siblings actually have some meat on them.Huge problem with HSR is that lgbt who play as the femc don't want their selfinsert to ever interact with males. Of course if your game is based on jrpgs where you have male characters too this just makes your game boring since your mc isn't allowed to participateAlso being muted sucks for jrpg like games
>>724487248I don't think it was possible to make a story so terribly bad, the writers got a complete lack of self-awareness and unironically believe that bloat equals to complexity. HSR reads as a parody of the hour-long cutscenes of MGS and anime tropes babbling incredibly long monologues mixed with skin deep esoterism while a bunch of samefaced NPCs stand and listen. The plot in the frozen planet was decent enough because it was short, but after that the game exploded in popularity and starting with the space china everything became the sort of drovel spat by AI. Penacony wasn't that bad, but holy fucking shit, Amphoreous is a disaster made by an incompetent hack attempting to write a greek epic.The best thing that was added to the game was the option to skip scenes, but even so the characters talk so fucking much that it will take a whole hour to finish the update because most of the "compelling" gameplay boils down to walking and opening chests until you reach the next scene, over and over. Then there's all the retarded minigames for mentally challenged 5yo's like that tamagochi shit and the restaurant management that hoyo dares to call events you are forced to play so you can get a couple more rolls.
>>724490995First time with /vg/ schizos?
>>724487338probably the most apt description. Aquila's boss fight, Mydei's trailer, Wildfire dropping were absolutely peak
>>724487728>Hoyo games don't get discussed much here for whatever reasonGenshin got the MLP treatment for being far too popular so now they get autosaged or outright deleted.The rest isn't all that bombastic, yeah. There just isn't all that much to talk about or do in them in the end.
>>724487728I must say, most of the Light Cone arts are really good.
>>724487728This cat owes me sex
Will Star Rail get a skip button like Genshin?In the OG, you can just skip entire storylines and jump straight from Mondo to Fontaine.Imagine finishing the still fun Belobog and continuing straight to Penacony, then whatever planet comes next, entirely skipping all of China and Greece, both of which I've heard sucked cock.Also, is there any news on what comes after Greece?
>>724493732they got one for the stories and events. But only a skip dialogue one. Next stop is space japan Edo
>>724493732Afaik new players can skip at least penacony and go straight to Amphoreus. Not sure if even Xianzhou can be skipped.
Gacha revenue numbers are literally completely made up, no one knows what these games are actually pulling in monthly. HSR in particular is a clear example of sites like sensortower playing favorites because it has a few HI3 expies and that's all it takes for honkucks to cum their diapers. The game is flopped dogshit.
>>724487728>HSR has good story Spending 500 words to do the work of 20 isn't good, and neither is repeating the same allegory every 30 seconds.
>>724487248It's the perfect gacha, there's nothing to discuss.
Benefactors, why do you dislike the Luofu?
>>724487248This but Arknightsat least characters like silver wolf, herta, sparkle, firefly, etc are popular and are known to people who don't play the gameask anyone to name anyone from Arknights and no one can name a single character
>>724494361Low iq anon right here
>>724495207>dislikeAmphoreus makes space china look like absolute cinemaShityros heirs make cloud shit quintet look like the fucking fellowship of the ring
Kafka?
>>724495207For me, it's the open sky.Most of the Luofu is set up to be like a city floating on the clouds.My brain pegs this as deeply wrong and subconsciously came to dislike it.Same for the deep open waters of the Scalegorge Waterscape.Also the first storyline for the Luofu is a bit dry. First impressions are important.
>>724490995Here is what is happening on TikTok
>>724495949Kafka.
The free archer is gone in less than a week if someone wants to start now
>>724495993Aesthetically it's hard for me to think of it as future China when so much of it looks like run down 1970's Chinese housing.
>>724487248I play it
>>724496414w-why is march haunted?
>>724496197>Continuously rolling for Saber>still not getting her
>>724496591march has always been cursed
>>724496197>>724496693>started playing for Saber>had to go full hard pity coinflip ultra despair for herat least I got redman's cone that way kek
>>724487248Too busy playing the game to talk about it
Elysia killing the game will keep Genshin safe from the pink plague. Your sacrifice will be remembered.
>>724496197Is there even any point to them? Just a little longer and 4.0 will hit and make him completely unusable powercrept garbage.
>>724488761this
>>724497749>stopped playing during the banana patch>thinking about reinstalling >see all the Amphoreus characters I can't afford to get on reruns because the pull economy is trash>they'll all be powercrept and useless in a few months anywayThis is why I don't return
when can i roll for irontomb herta
>>724497749>>724497925there will be a new gamemode called currency wars which is going to change how a few units work and buffs
>>724498030I'm not returning and spending money on characters that are a few months old and can only be used on a welfare side mode because Mihoyo swaps archetypes twice a year.Tone down the fucking powercreep, or have universal supports and meaningful character buffs like Genshin did
>>724487248Dumbest turn based game I've ever played. Story made me want to sudoku myself and the monetization is ridiculously greedy. Unironically a pos game.
>>724487248There isn't much to talk about beyond the lore. Lore is widely discussed.And the meta doesn't leave much room for creativity.
>>724487728HSR not having a shitspam of obligatory low-effort timegated events to make you log in and steal your time and attention as cheaply as possible is one of the many things that makes it good compared t other chink gacha game. It treats you at very least as a young adult instead of a retarded kid. It respects your time. It has less volume, but more actually meaningful content and story.You will understand eventually.
>>724498128There are people clearing MoC with just 4 star units anon it’s purely a skill issue, you not playing the game to rolls for decent units, or not even trying to get decent artifacts. It’s always strange people say power creep when they throw so many gems and give away free 5 stars all the fucking time. Not even rolling and you should have 3 or 4 free 5 stars just logging in and Dan is legitimately the best shielder in the fucking game atm
>>724497925here are more reason to leave>stroy is just the final final final cycle of the most final of the finalest cycles of flamechase journey occasionally interupted by a robot with a gloryhole in his chest retelling you the allegory of plato's cave>2 events per patch and they are just some shitty battle ones that auto pley themselves in the current one the game chooses the characters for you so the game LITERALLY plays itself
>>724498490>There are people clearing MoC with just 4 star units anonThey haven't added a 4* in a whole year, what are you talking about? That's 1.X era powercreep cope.
I am ready for Edo star and bratty Sparkle
It's the most brainless hoyo game, and that's saying a lot, filled with the sloppiest walls of text imaginable, copy pasted chink dress designs and homosexual romance plot
>>724498569Yea and people are still clearing with them, just admit you’re a shitter anon
>>724498884>It's the most brainless hoyo game,that is still genshin and nothing you say will change it
>>724498965At least you have to use a couple braincells to move the characters on the map still
>>724488719>both are still very good qualityThey aren't. They're beyond mediocre, the only Mihoyo gacha that doesn't suck complete dick at the moment is ZZZ, Genshin and HSR turned into trash, ESPECIALLY HSR
>>724499036ZZZ lost the plot in 1.4
>>724498965is genshin really more brainless than>in this fightslop event we selected 3 out of 4 characters for you so here's your 60 jades have fun until next patch?
>>724499412That current event is just a beta-test for a new mechanic that will be used in 4.x. It's not even saved in archive
>>724498965>that is still genshin and nothing you say will change it
>>724487248some of my friends play it, they all dropped genshin for it too which I find very strange
>>724500404I also dropped genshin and only play hsr now
>>724498965If HSR didn't exist you would be right. Unfortunately there's a fucking auto-battle function there so your opinion is auto-invalid. You can cope however you want about that, sorry.
>>724499021Meanwhile in Honkai impact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUyjYqbjw0kClearly Honkai impact is the better game.
>>724500129My wonderful retarded Chuuni mistress.Not my waifu tho. That's Sampo.
>>724498030>new gamemodeThanks. I want another 20 useless game modes to grind for 3 pulls a month with roguelike mechanics instead of a good main story chapter and buffing the older characters making them usable. Oh, and the global buff was the gayest shit they've done yet.
>>724488160The what now?
>>724487248>>nobody ever talks about it>What gives?It's f2p garbo. Wtf is there to say?
>>724501579/v/ has talked about f2p garbo for over a decade now though
>>724501307>people want more modes>people mad over people adding more modesYou cant please all. Also they are buffing old units
>>724500513Rome Total War as well as most JRPG classics had an auto battle function is those are a bad games as well? It's an important feature for any long running game, because it's impossible to balance every single encounter so none of them are trivial. It helps after farming becomes easy. Genshin should had it as well for the art farm and every one would be happy about it including you - the hypocrite.
>>724501579modern /v/ is full of gacha playing thirdies
>>724501764>peopleThey are moron then. Main story and expanded EXISTING modes would be the best course of action. Instead it's automated rotation of procedurally generated garbage that you do out of obligation more than for fun.
HSR is a VN first and foremost. The gameplay, even with the billions of paragraphs used to describe abilities, is largely simplistic and ignorable. Level up characters. Make a team with synergy. Press auto. Sure there's nuance, but it boils down to leveling stats enough so you can press Auto and ignore combat. It's not exactly exciting, but entertaining enough for a mobile rpg. Additionally, any challenge comes with the caveat that the solution just happens to be the new banner character, and most likely you won't ever have enough pulls to guarantee getting that character, but you will be on track to getting the next meta character. So you're constantly being off-meta to being on-meta patch to patch.
>>724502398There's a lot of buzz from CCs that the game is 'bad now' when the formula has largely stayed the same. I assume those people expected the game to 'evolve' in some way, but it doesn't, so the game isn't bad, but just hasn't changed in the past 3 years. It is after all a VN first and foremost.
It feels like Hoyo games are just destined to fizzle out relatively fast, for me the whole single player theme park experience got boring both in Genshin and Star Rail, despite the fact that I enjoyed both games quite a lotPenacony was funnily one of the most enjoyable bits of a game that I've experienced in years, but ultimately these games tend to lose their hold on you once you realize that you're working toward nothingGachas like Nikke and some others at least have a competitive element to them that you can keep working towards over long periods of time, but bereft of that, Hoyo games just don't have enough to keep you sucked in
>>724487248I see people talking about it all the time. Genshin just gets more shitposting because it was the first big Hoyo game.
>>724502927>It feels like Hoyo games are just destined to fizzle out relatively fastLOL what? All of them are still doing great. Genshin's last patch just launched it into popularity again. And game is 5 years old.
>>724502398> and ignore combatWell that's your choice don't make it sound as if it isn't. By that logic, you could as well be skipping the story and saying there were no story at all, there are no retard protection built in. These games are made for different audiences simultaneusly, both for those who would just open the guide, pull for the easy mode cheat eidolons and slap the auto for mediocre results, and for those who will play the game and make most of it. Character abilities are one of the biggest selling points right after story importance so, clearly, not everyone is playing the same purely collectable game along with you.
>>724487248Who the fuck is still playing this shit? With all the predatory practices Hoyo has been doing on top of the BS rates that have changed the industry for the worst, I'm surprised that Hoyo isn't a developer to give the widest berth when considering playing a gacha game. Genuine retards are left playing Genshin and HSR. ZZZ seems to be hitting the powercreep phase, too.
>>724503806hoyo has one of the better gacha systems compared to fire emblem, dragonball spic etc
>>724503506Maybe you would have a point if HSR was skill based. It's not. I don't know what else to say here.
>>72450380699% of players don't give a single fuck about 0.1% endgame trash.
>>724487728>abysmal storyZZZ story is great what are you on about
>>724503806When those games lacked any serious endgame with difficulty turbo whales were posting fastest clear times like it meant anything. Those morons just want to compete so Hoyo gave them a way to compete. HSR's hardest game mode barely gives you shit besides fucking frame to dickwave with other whales.
>>724487248Hoyoverse games are profitable, but not extremely popular.
>>724487728They're just old chink gachashit. Normalfags aren't interested and everyone knows how mentally ill hoyofags are and refuse to engage.
>>724503897>Hoyo is better than worse systemsNo shit. The problem with Hoyo's gacha is that it's not really a gacha, you can't really luck out because the rates are so shit. Having a safety net is great but it also removes the elation felt when getting from uncertainty. Genshin set the standard and everyone else is copying them because if Genshin was successful, it bust have been because of their gacha. Some gacha games even copy the 160 per roll, they don't even bother changing it...>>724503994Yeah, most don't and the end game is trash as well. Doesn't change the fact that they powercreep older units, alongside selling broken ones that only work if you have dupes.>>724504268It feels bad missing out on even 30 jades/primo because you can't clear the content anymore. Then that 30 turns into 1 or 2 pulls and eventually you find yourself in a position that the end game content isn't for you anymore because you're not a whale or pulled the newest units. Horrible game design.
>>724497925lmao, same. i played until about the time penacony released. spent like good 2-3 months building DHIL. last month checked the tierlist, and he's a shitter in all the gamemodes.
>>724504753>Some gacha games even copy the 160 per roll, they don't even bother changing it.That was pretty much one of the reasons why Tribe 9 marched right out and then died. They tried to copy the entire Hoyo system even though it didn't really make sense with the type of game they had.
>>724503980Whatever you say. It's clearly is, both on a management level as well as tactical one. You're just one of those people who tend to blame anything but themselves.
>>724504753If you're whining about 1 or 2 pulls, just do one of the billion sidequests on your backlog.
>>724505117As someone who clears endgame on auto and hasn't spent any money, I don't know what to say to you. The only thing to do is grind and that's it.
>Devs accidentally made an F2P friendly comp with mono ice Mibibi/Lycaon/Soukaku>Now all new bosses are and always will be freeze invincible, even the ice-weak shill ones from this patch
>>724504949There were quite a few reasons T9 died. Sure, changing things from the beta to be worse than Hoyo rates massively hurt them, as did the knee jerk reaction. The biggest reason, though, was that people didn't really want a less responsive ZZZ with strange Baseball elements thrown in. The game was also hard, filtering a bunch of people. Then you had weird gacha characters that didn't quite appeal to everyone. Stella Sora is pretty much in the exact same position as T9 bit it will be unlikely to EoS.>>724505125It's not about the pulls, though. It's about no being able to clear content anymore. Sure, I don't NEED to do it but if you remove the aspirational drive, why do I even bother playing?
>>724505445>MiyabiI guess it's 'f2p' as long as you had one of the most busted characters released during 1.X. Sure.
>>724505586Yes, I would call a 1-cost team F2P, especially since she accompanied the relaunch, her banner ran for the entire month, and 1.4 provided nearly enough rolls to get her even if you whiffed the 50/50.
>>724505815Miyabi in 1.X didn't need a team.
>>724504753If you don't care about jade, you're sabotaging your account. Just do the quests and get the pulls. A new character/eidolon/LC can potentially get you to clear endgame.
>>724505228>>724505117I just dont do the endgame last level sometimes and miss out on 80 jades but thats it
I like the music in star rail and the characters have cool effects. thats about it,
>>724506107Tbh she really doesn’t need a team at all . I got her to c2 with her orb and fucks up everything but I got stupidly lucky
>>724488927>they all die to power up Elysia's MC pandering arrowThat you need to pay $300 to see again but ONLY with the male Trailblazer.
>>724505445not a zoo thread
>>724505445anon what the fuck are you talking about? The ice weekly boss goes down in like 30 seconds
>>724504258Calling it a story is generous.
>>724487248>>724487728>HSR has good storyLMAOOOOOOO
>>724512762That's Amorpheus or whatever it's called, yes.
Trigger's agent story mogs the entire Shaoji slop (Penacony+ Amphoreus)
