Haven't re-played this masterpiece for a decade.Originally I planned on playing Skyblivion kino, but it won't be releasing for another year at best (if ever) without shivering isles and I absolutely refuse to play the soulless "remaster".Pls shill me your best mod-list for the next best thing.
>masterpieceoblivion sucks ass
>>725573338
Oblivion is vanilla only. Hud or unofficial patch are only exceptions if you absolutely must mod it
>>725573036I just started playing this for the first time and soon I'm going to start the Shivering Isles dlc.Is it good?
>>725573338fpbp
>>725574103Its reddit, but you'll probably have fun
>>725573995vanilla is broken as fuck and unplayabledungeonslop, shitass UI, ugly as fuck polygonsbet you prefer your steaks raw
>>725573036I'm really unimpressed by Oblivion's mod scene, I wouldn't bother.>>725574103Pretty damn good.
>>725574205>Its redditHow come?
>>725574295the dialogue is very quirk chungus, but it has a certain charm to it. Its a product of its time basically.
>>725574213The potato faces are kind of funny and match the dumbass VA, idk. UI isn't that big of an issue, you don't do much menuing.
>>725574246>I'm really unimpressed by Oblivion's mod sceneWhy are Skyrim modders so much better by such a significant margin it's unreal.Skyblivion has taken 13 fucking years so far lmfao
>>725574213medium well dungeons are kino and the landscape is beautiful, especially when you get to SI as OP mentioned Oblivion absolutely holds up
>>725573338delusional skytroon pic
oblivion is objectively better than skyrim
>>725573338>MorrowGODS shaking hands with SkyRIMJOBSDelusional, you will never be a real Elder Scrolls game.
>>725574494uh oh schizo alert
>>725574434I haven't messed with creation kit all that much, but it does seem like anything older than the Skyrim or the GECK variant is pretty fucking unusable. Just constant crashes, incompatibility, runs at a crawl, wonder they got anything done with that.
>>725574678Skyrim nails the spirit of Elder Scrolls better than Oblivion. Despite its casualized mechanics.
>>725574103shivering isles is okay, however it doesn't fix the core issues with the game. oblivion is barely playable after a certain point unless you use console commands to adjust your level and stats. all the level-scaled rewards and unlocks max out at 30, any level over that only makes the enemies stronger with zero benefit to you
>>725574416>>725574442>it don't bother me therefore gooderI like my steaks cooked, well doneThe only reason I haven't replayed Oblivion in so long is because I remember how broken so much shit is in vanilla and how bumfuckugly it also isdungeon's are all copy-pasted exact same shit. UI was built for console toddlers and is incredibly bothersome to literally every single player except for (You)level-scaling, repetitiveness of portals, dungeons, enemies, pathing, bland
>>725573036There not that many mods compared to Skyrim, but they do the job revamping it. I dont have a mod list and I dont remember the mod names, but I can tell you what I fixed/added with mods>Better faces>Better flora>Real time shadows>Extra landscapes>Added exotic weapons>Marriage>Hand of God (just better telekinisis)>All the bugfixing mods>Added Elseweyr area>Added capes>Shiny steel armor>Big booba bodies for females>Immersive weather>Decorative fish underwater>>725573338Morrowind is too tedious and autistic, Skyrim is too casualized and has cucked npc AI, so Oblivion is the perfect fit for me. Its fun, colorful, and the npcs really make immersive. These mods pretty much fix everything that is wrong with this game
>>725574626it really is and I love both (and get shit for loving either)
>>725574901The food analogies don't make your arguments better, they just make you look fatter.
>>725574767I didn't say anything about ObliviSHIT did I? We will never consider you a real Elder Scrolls game. Ever.
>>725575024I have only eaten 1 steak this year because I'm poor as fuckpost physique brah
>>725575136So is Morrowind the only real Elder Scrolls or are you a Daggerfossil as well?
>>725574940Thanks lad, I'll cheggit
>>725574824this
Did a definitive run, every quest every relic everything. Great game and has a lot of charm that far outweigh the flaws.
>>725574824There is a solution to that. You can always reduce the difficulty
>>725574767>Skyrim nails the spirit of Elder Scrolls better than Oblivionlmao no. if you think this then you have absolutely no clue what the "spirit of elder scrolls" is.skyrim is a shit stain on the franchise's integrity by all metrics, however as a game, it's perfectly playable comfort food. skyrim is mindless slop and it doesn't pretend to be anything but that. you can accept that that's what the game is and you can meet it where it's at. on that end, it's a perfectly serviceable game.meanwhile oblivion is a barely functioning mess devised by a rabid pack of chimpanzees.
>>725574696rookie numbers, it should be posted more t b h
>>725575762Oblivion lacks any kind of focus on the Imperials as a people. It lacks any creativity in its world map. It lacks any interesting lore outside of the DLCs. Its basically the most milquetoast generic take on Elder Scrolls we've ever gotten. Skyrim was a return to form.
>>725573338Here's your (You) faggot.Morrowind unequivocally has the best story and was so rich that they had enough material to produce two other games just from one writer doing an immense amount of psychedelic's and contacting literal demons for inspiration.Morrowind's gameplay however is close to un-playable unless you have a guide. Not a single Morrowindfag likes Skyrim btw.Oblivion is their greatest game without a doubt. If Morrowind was actually playable and looked decent, it would easily take its place.
>>725573036The remaster has now replaced the original.
>>725575662>playing below normal difficultyno
>>725575967>It lacks any interesting lore outside of the DLCs.you're outing yourself as a retarded secondary here. i bet you thought the mythic dawn commentaries were just schizo nonsense, yeah? that's because you're a lorelet bitch.shivering isles "lore" was a fucking mistake and should have never been written. i'd honestly headcanon the whole thing away as the player character's hallucination and nothing more.also skyrim focused on nords in the sense that it spent a lot of time raping their lore and ruining them. good job, i guess.
>>725576440Why not? Im not saying to lower the bar to a point that you will one shot everything. Im saying to find the difficulty level that feels right to your playthrough. ES games are powerfantasy games. You play them for the immersion, you dont play them for their hardcore combat. If you want better combat, play souls games, Kingdom come or just mod Skyrim or some shit.
>>725576482Lets just agree to disagree. I don't have time to argue with childish insults
>>725577290yeah that was a bit rude i'm sorry bro. :/
>>725574626Quests are better but that it. Well and magic I guess. But magic is Skyrim lolGeneral design is better in Skyrim, they had time to actually think through why and how everything will lookDungeon design is miles ahead of oblivion even if dungeons are mostly more linear than colonCombat is better. No death by thousand cuts is required to kill the enemyIn itself skyrim feels like it’s an actual place and not procedurally generated like oblivion with tree.asset added if world designer feels extra diligent
So... does anyone have a good mod list for Oblivion ?
>>725573036>soulless "remaster".It isn't soulless.
>>725573338This doesn't even make sense, Skyrim is just a dumbed down Oblivion.
>>725579734>UE5slop that can't go a single dungeon without crashingwhatever you say nigger.
>>725580525Works on my machine paki
>>725582374hahaha looks ugly as FUCK
>>725580525Blessings of Arkay upon ye
>>725574494>>725574696anybody who either makes or saves these atomic schizo images deserves to be shot
I'm a boomer who loves Oblivion and just wanted to say there is no reason to play the original over the remake other than minor grasping at straws shit. Stay mad.
>>725583689your eyes stopped functioning a decade ago old man
>>725583321 based schizobunker hater. half those JPEGs look like someone tried to decode Elder Scrolls lore using numerology and a bottle of NyQuil. you open one and it's just 240p maps, six fonts, red arrows everywhere, and the word "CHIM" repeated like an incantation. annihilate on sight.
>>725584891>>725585034>grasping at strawsShit the anon was right...
>>725585034Yeah I'll stick with playing the original.
>>725585291The original looks even better than Skyblivion lmfao
>>725574767>Skyrim nails the spirit of Elder Scrolls better than OblivionNo it fucking doesn't, are you on crack? Oblivion being irredeemable dogshit doesn't magically make Skyrim good.
>Skyrim anniversary>no discount on SteamWtf
>>725579509no but here's mine, mostly vanilla but there are lots of good overhauls out there like MOO and OOOhttps://pastebin.com/LNAzH9Td
>>725573036Me neither, but Requiem absolutely spoiled me and OOO doesn't fix Oblivion enough for me to enjoy it to stick to a playthrough longer than 10 hours or so.
>>725574678Morrowind was an acceptable TES game. I have no idea why it gets so much hate here.
>>725590706here's what happens with any game on 4chan>anon like game>anon have autism>go to website>they call anon dumb for liking game>lash out disproportionately at the game they like, including falseflags and spamming against the game or any variation of tactics to associate people with bad things>this can go in any direction for any amount of time, even yearsthen other people on the site pick up the fight from the periphery and subsume it as part of their identity, to virtue signal regardless of whether or not they actually play said game, because aforementioned mental patients have associated game with bad thing and by aligning themselves against the bad thing and bad game, they gain social capitol with other autistics (important(meaningless))
>>725590706Short answer: the combat.
>>725586979are you a morrowind supremacist or what the fuck kind of shit are you smoking to call oblivion "irredeemable dogshit"
>>725589989based
>>725593393Careful now. He is going to drop an infographic about a boogeyman he made a decade ago and start samefagging if you keep it up.
>>725585034>>725584891>>725582787just download reshade and crank the saturation. that is the only difference
>>725593393I like Morrowind the most, but Daggerfall is also good. Skyrim isn't fun, it's a dull blank template that you sort of meander through, even heavily modded it's merely a shittier version of the game you're trying to turn it into. Oblivion is actively offensive. The cool quests don't counteract the fact that combat is brutally unfun and the RPG mechanics actively work against you thanks to level scaling.
>>725594459>I like Morrowind the mostI'm so tired of morrowindfags
>>725573338They all suck ass.
>>725594558Get the fuck over it, it's obviously the best game in the series unless you're REALLY into hardcore dungeon crawling where Daggerfall and Arena excel. Even discounting Morrowind, Oblivion is still a shit game and a shit RPG designed straight from the book of "shit you shouldn't do in a video game."
>>725583689Riiight. Lemme install and play Oblivion Remastered. Im sure it doesnt look like the rest of fantasy U5 slop and it still feels unique and charming as the original used to be
>>725593826show me a single picture of the remaster reshaded and cranked to look 1/1000th as good as the original.20 years btw.
>>725594459and what aspect of Morrowind combat do you find to be fun ? the part where you have to spend dozens of hours researching how the fuck to actually play the game ?Lol.
>>725594770>it's obviously the best game in the seriesand you not realizing how it's not objectively better than oblivion or skyrim (not even close since they both surpass morrowind in several points) is what's so tiring about everything. I've been following this discussion for years, and the way morrowindfags bend reality to make morrowind the better game in LITERALLY. EVERY. SINGLE. ASPECT. is amazing.so whatever, I'm the dumbass who clicks on these threads after all the years. I'll just go see some pajeets cooking poop on /ck/
>>725595441>not even close since they both surpass morrowind in several pointsName some of them.
>>725594936>LT>RBstay pleb
>>725595542lol
>>725573036Oblivishit is sloppadiddlydoodly thougheverbeit.
>>725594936pretty funny that you literally had to get cool daedra artifacts out in order to overshadow just how fucking bland and soulless the background atmosphere actually looks
>>725594936How do I get the jew blade?
>>725594770>>725595441Morrowind is unquestionably the best in the series and it single handedly carried the entire fucking series. Without Michael Kirkbride's genius, Oblivion and Skyshit would cease to exist. There wouldn't even be an Elder Scrolls series. That said, Oblivion is a timeless piece, and calling it bad only makes you look like a child lashing out
>>725573036you have to run the lod generator otherwise distant landscapes (200 feet away) are featureless and offensively ugly
>>725596076Oblivion is a bad game and the only people that disagree are contrarians and retards who started the series with that shitheap.
>>725596184
>>725596184True. Only browns would try to dispute this.
>>725596056The imperial city monks have it stored in a display case in their library next to the elder scrolls
>>725596184I have started with morrowind, but I still prefer Oblivion. The vanilla looks dated nowadays, but mods modernize it to perfection. Morrowind needs mods as well in order to look good and be more immersive on modern pcs, so mods is a valid point.But keep on copin' my wayward child
>>725596862See? This is one of them. Browner than the dirt, he is.
>>725596576Not even that, we've just reached a point of contrarianism where there's too many levels of irony to engage in any sort of discourse whatsoever. You're not allowed to like Skyrim because it's too recent, you're not allowed to like Morrowind because it's the objectively correct choice and it doesn't make you look cool or unique for liking it, Daggerfall is the most obvious "trying too hard" answer along with Arena, so really that leaves Oblivion.>but mods modernize it to perfectionNo they fucking don't. After all these years you're left with MOO and OOO, the latter of which was only tolerated because it was THE only overhaul mod that even tried to approach the absolute horse-raping clusterfuck that is the level scaling, and even then it's a massively bloated visionless pile of shit. Oblivion's problems aren't isolated to the potato NPCs or dated graphics, it's an actively unfun game that makes itself a chore to play unless you exploit the unholy fuck out of it. You can literally drop the difficulty to the absolute lowest point and combat will still take for-fucking-ever past a certain level, the loot system is fucking retarded and ruins ANY reason to explore the copypaste dungeons, and even your quest rewards can be permanently and irreparably sabotaged if you played at the wrong level.It's a bad fucking game.
>>725596862>looks>look goodThat's what you care about. No wonder you prefer Oblivion
>>725592215The combat in Morrowind is better than combat in Skyrim. You are a stupid casual.
>>725596976>Brown Brown people play Skyrim because it has loli rape mods and other degenerate shit. Only white people can appreciate Oblivion's vivid AI, its comfy atmosphere, and its 80s-90s high fantasy aesthetics. On the other hand, highly autistic people with too much time on their hands can only immerse themselves with Morrowind, which coincidentaly is as brown and as grey as the 3rd worlders are.
>>725597472>dice rolling "combat"Faggot retard.
>>725597504>stupid people play Shitrim and Oblivishit>smart people play MorrowindYeah.
>>725595470>>725595441Half an hour later and none of these points were given. Very typical.
>>725597513It's still better than the most retarded shit imaginable (Skyrim)
>>725597847>It's still *chokes on an absolutely fucking massive fat cock*Huh? Try again.
>>725595470NPCs actually feel alive and not staticA viable sneak playstyleLeveling that doesn't trivialize the difficulty in higher levelsBoth skyrim and oblivion's soundtracks are better than morrowind'sCities actually work as quest hubs tailored for the player instead of a dozen useless vendors and the nightmare that is Vivec
>>725597601I never said smart lol. Autistic doesnt always equals smart. Morrowfags are the wrong kind of autists. If nothing else, most of them are as slow as the game itself, so they cant keep up with real time gameplay. They will probably die from heart attack if they play doom 2016 or doom eternal, so Morrowind is they only game they truly have because its right up to their speed.As an oblivionchad, I have learned not to hate Morrowfags. I pity them by showing mercy.
>>725598334>Autistic doesnt always equals smartYou definitely "doesnt equals smart" either, Pedro.
>>725598265>NPCs actually feel alive and not staticNPC scheduling was an objectively good change, but "alive?" In Skyrim they still feel like robots, and in Oblivion they behave like fucking schizos. Oblivion's were better than Skyrim's though, I'll take funny over scripted any day.>A viable sneak playstyle"A blatantly overpowered sneak style that made you invisible the nanosecond you crouch.">Leveling that doesn't trivialize the difficulty in higher levelsLevelling in Oblivion makes the game actively worse to play in every regard to the point where the common advice is to STOP levelling at a certain point. In Skyrim it absolutely trivializes the game because you become literally immortal like in Morrowind and Daggerfall.>Both skyrim and oblivion's soundtracks are better than morrowind'sThat's not even something you can argue any objectivity on because they're different soundtracks and they're all good.>Cities actually work as quest hubs tailored for the player instead of a dozen useless vendors and the nightmare that is VivecThat doesn't even fucking make sense unless you're just arguing that Vivec is a bitch to navigate and you needed to pad it out to not look like a retard.
>>725598334>Oblivinigger plays crackspam zoom zoom shitLMAO
>>725573036>refuse to play the soulless "remaster"./v/ thinks every remaster is "soulless' no matter what.
>>725595402>the part where you have to spend dozens of hours researching how the fuck to actually play the game ?Pick long blade as a major skill and use long blades.Wow that was so fucking hard, im glad i figured that out
>>725599272Okay but the Oblivion remaster is objectively soulless. It also gets bonus points for running like a 600-lb. landwhale and introducing NEW bugs into a famously unstable game that will literally never get fixed because the poos they farmed it out to abandoned it.
>>725599367>Wow that was so fucking hard, im glad i figured that outHoly shit you're a fucking genius.>luck makes me luckier>strength makes me hit harder>agility makes me more agile>long blade makes me better with long bladesHow the FUCK was I supposed to know any of this?
>>725573338I mean I don't hate Oblivion, but I find myself replaying Morrowind and Skyrim more. Hell I even played Skyrim INSIDE Morrowind. I just gel more with Nords and Dark Elves.
>>725598573>Morrowind and its fans are so sophisticated. Oblivionfags and Skyrimbabbies cant comprehend our level of sophistication, hohoho.The actual morrowind fans>Yuo like oblivion???!?!? Weelll I got news 4u! Oblivion ssssuuccksss haha! Morrowind is good because you read n shit! Brown shit poop brown lolololIt sounds to me like you need to play Oblivion again. Finish Oblivion. Finish it twice. Learn to appreciate Bethesda's magnum opus.
>>725599656ok, Joao
>>725599656Who are you quoting?
>>725598652>NPC scheduling was an objectively good change, but "alive?"They're definitely more alive than Morrowind's utterly static world, even with their limitations. It's something no amount of care and love like project tamriel can solve for me.>That's not even something you can argue any objectivity on because they're different soundtracks and they're all good.No, I think I can call this one. Morrowind has like three exploration tracks and three battle tracks that play on repeat abruptly because the game shoves in and out the mp3 file to play. It just gets old incredibly fast. Oblivion improved with more tracks and ambient music for caves and such, and Skyrim is just overall smoother with its sounds and transitions.>"A blatantly overpowered sneak style that made you invisible the nanosecond you crouch."As opposed to said gamestyle being effectively useless in Morrowind and not functional like with pickpocketing. At worst it just swapped the issue of magic being overpowered with sneak being overpowered.>In Skyrim it absolutely trivializes the game because you become literally immortal like in Morrowind and Daggerfall.I think you can still have a decent amount of challenge with the highest difficulty if you don't abuse stuff like stunlocks, and get sometimes surprised by dying super fast.>That doesn't even fucking make sense unless you're just arguing that Vivec is a bitch to navigate and you needed to pad it out to not look like a retard.It's not just Vivec, some places like Ebonheart castle requires you to walk back and forth to the edge of a keep just to turn in your cult quests, or shit like walking in circles in the Wolverine Hall. Don't get me wrong I find the other two games' city layouts boring as fuck but the way it actually plays like in Morrowind is a pain in the ass. Balmora is the only place that works fine as a hub.
>>725599656>Morrowind is good because you readI knew it was some stupid zoomer nigger allergic to actually reading quest text instead of being able to blindly follow a map marker. Off yourself, broccolihead ghetto subhuman rat "person".
>>725594936>Thread has devolved so hard into a classic Morrowind vs Oblivion vs Skyrim, nobody has figured out that is pic is from the Avowed gameNice observational skills, Elder Scrolls fags. If you played better western rpgs like I do and not fight like bunch of geezers (yes skyrim is old now) then you would have spotted whats wrong with this image. ES games are good, but they are not that impressive.
>>725599452You'll never guess what speed does
>>725597513if the dice are affecting your combat in any meaningful way you are either level 1 or shit at the gamemorrowind and skyrim have the exact same combat>early game>press m1 a lot>mid game>press m1 fewer times>late game>press m1 rarelyoblivion is the only one with different combat and that's because it's shit; you just press m1 a lot no matter what level you are
>>725573036Reign of the Septimswww.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/54970
>>725601810>if the dice are *slobbers all over a big dick*Huh??
>>725601810That's wrong. Enchant your gear anon.
>>725598334Non-autist higher IQs love Morrowind for other reasons, that's what you don't get. It's not about immediate sensory imput, or mechanics, or speed, or difficulty, at all. These things can be enjoyed in other games if need be. Don't get me wrong, it's serviceable, but Morrowind's true strength is the way its world is structured like a puzzle, in lore, setting, and story, requiring a bit of imagination on the part of the player to piece things together as he progresses. Hacking the game and becoming an OP god-killer is cool and all, but the real satisfaction of Morrowind is growing into its weird alien setting until you feel like you belong there
>>725603830Too many words, didnt read.
>>725603830>trying to argue with brownsfool's errand
>>725574246I'm sorry bub, you missed the golden age of Oblivion modding. The good stuff was all on SHY, UP.MNTY and obscure Japanese blogs many of which have been lost to time. The Korean TES community still has many of them preserved like a time capsule on Naver Cafe, but good luck getting in there without a Korean telephone number.>>725574434And yet Skyrim adult mods have still not surpassed Oblivion's. Sexlab still T-poses characters and takes a full second before any scene. In Oblivion we had seamless high impact sexual violence, it went straight from combat to gangbanging, button mashing the mouse to escape, and right back to fighting for yourcannothave donutsteel x117 loli daughterfu's life against superpowered FCOM enemies before, getting dismembered guro style with the custom Deadly Reflex Ryona mod (video related)https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISZ57y-2gTU&t=242s
>>725598334doom 2016 and eternal are pretty slow paced, idk why you'd use them as examples
>>725575975>Not a single Morrowindfag likes Skyrim btw.Wrong. The consensus is that Skyrim is dumb but fun, while Oblivion is an awkward middleground. Basically as dumb but not as polished.
>>725607937>Skyrim>funNo.
I like morrowind.I like oblivion.I like skyrim.And that's the last good game bethesda made.
>>725608217Skyrim isn't a good game, you faggot cock.
>>725596862>but mods modernize it to perfectionproof ?
>>725608283Its fun to me and my hours spent on it.I've been playing the VR version recently too, its very jank without mods, but its ok. The spells are cool.
>>725598334baste
>>725608283No, it's a great game. A buffet for imaginative people who love the mysteries of TES, and aren't filtered by their own autism.
>>725609057>it's a great game as long as you ignore the dogshit gameplay!
>>725574901>I like my steaks cooked, well doneuse this as a trip so you can be filtered
>>725573338Oblivion's only problem is that Cyrodiil is impossibly bland. Letting Todd watch LOTR was a huge mistake.>>725608283skyrim fucks
>>725603830no individual playing elder scrolls games is high IQ
>>725609514Kill yourself zoom.
>>725609560>source: the hurt from my butt
>>725609609cant handle the kino lol
>>725609948>broccolihead tiktard can't handle reading
>>725610008very tragic statement from the mind of a raped kikeslave.books are for reading and video games are for playing. No video game can emulate the pathos of literature
>>725610237Which TroonTuber did you pull that from, zoomie?
>>725610468Harold Bloom
>>725610237>I can only understand the world through black-and-white thinking
>>725610530The one book he ever wrote was an affront to the book it was inspired by. Also, Jewish.
>>725610737im just a dumb zoom zoom that likes tranime pls understandu
>>725610737find me a single game that has the depth of a classic and I will relentbetter yet, find me a single book that is as fun to consume as a video game (you cant, thats why reading has dropped off a cliff)theres nothing wrong with things occupying their own spheres.
>>725610938>you cant, thats why reading has dropped off a cliffI genuinely want to kill zoomers
>>725611005I accept your concession get #raped
>>725610938I promise you that reading a good book is significantly more entertaining than playing some fucking garbage like VTM Bloodlines 2 or whatever the latest hero shooter slop is. Just because you're a retarded shitskin nigger with the attention span of a goldfish doesn't mean that "reading has dropped off a cliff". Maybe in whatever ghetto Little Africa shithole you live in.
