"Wakey wakey! We have Virgo to fight in 3 days"
muri.....
Game need robot.
>>725800725>>725800808>>725800845/vg/
it's not actually in 3 days you're joking right?
>>725800927anon...
How are people getting S's in Speed, Power and Wit?
>>725801101I am so fucking cooked
>>725801131I swiped
>>725800725Another thread already?
>>725800927League registration opens on the 16th, but round 1 won't actually start until a few days after thatEither way, not much time to work with
>>725801101welp it's over
>>725800725Thread too soon
does she actually show up in the anime or was it literally just one cameo in the chibi spinoff
I don't understand Unity Cup. I don't understand why I need the Riko card.
>>725800845WTF IS THIS REAL?
>>725801131If you don't have MLB'd SRs then you are either playing really late or severely doing something wrong
>>725801859Not everyone's a whale anon
>>725801904You don't need to be a whale to budget your carats correctly
>>725801715Free stamina
>>725801904>MLB'd SRs>WhaleDid you just start playing?
>>725801715You need to train a lot to fill up the blue balls and blow them up on the stats you want for more of that statTraining costs energyRiko gives you energy back without you having to pray you don't get Night Owl from resting + she gives you stats tooBy using Riko dates + wit training at the right time, you will have more energy to train and fill up more balls / be ready to blow up balls on stats you want if they happen to land thereUnity is about never missing opportunities>>725801859I put all of my carats into the Kitasan banner and got one copy of her + the pity one and 2LB King Halo, and that's what I've been working with
>Those empty eyesI don't like the way she's looking at me...........
>>725801961Should I be using Riko + Urara SSR?
>>725800845reject clanker propaganda
Virgo rooms doko??????????
>>725802148
>>725800845Goddamn JP uma is crazy
I've only made like 4 new TT members so far how the fuck am I supposed to get 3 aces ready
There are two different levels for the CM isn't there? I haven't done them before but now I can train umas better than a retard so I want to give it a shot for participation rewards.
>>725800927Technically no, 3 days for signups which last 2 days I think?
>>725802357Open: B rank and below (no B+)Graded: Unrestricted, bring anything
>Uma decides to take the widest position she can possibly take on the final spurtWHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING THAT GET THE FUCK TO THE INSIDE
>>725800845where's the semen meter?
>>725802440Is it worth tossing an A-rank (10,900) Ogurin in unrestricted? I don't expect to win just get some stuffs.
Is this a good deck for Grass debuffer?
>>725802741Debuffs get severely nerfed in short distances, otherwise you would see them more often
>>725802726post her, she might do well in group b
>>725802726Even if you lose every single match you still get some freebies.
>>725802741Why would you use Grass as a debuffer in Mile, where she doesn't get to use Dominator? You're better off just using a Fukutard or a Natie, although debuffs aren't as useful in shorter distances. The only ones I'd try to get are frenzied fronts to instantly kill big nigers
Has anyone had any success running Late Fantasy Condor? I feel like she comes with with excellent skills for this CM (Furious Feat, Rising Dragon, 1,500,000 CC), but when I run her she somehow ends up not performing well.
>>725802831This was the best Ogurin so far.
>>725802726I've gotten to A finals more than not with A umas. Most of the ones you run into are A. The overall rating may as well be meaningless.
>>725803159>that staminasorry, it'll have a stroke on the turf...
>>725803230>gourmand
>>725803230gourmand is like +200 stam, she might survive if it procs
where are the ROOMS
>>725803340I'M STILL FAILING TO MAKE PARENTS SHUT UP
>>725803340The same place my aces must be at
>>725803375>parentsMy enjoyment of the game increased 10 fold when I stopped trying to make parents after Cancer Cup. That shit is literally cancer.
>>725803375>cm registration less than 3 days away>parentsanon...
>>725803428>>725803486You think I have a choice? That there's an option? You and I live in different worlds, is all.
>>725803486I don't like this image
Just got a run where Riko's date starting event didn't trigger. How the fuck is that possible?
41608109Great moodBring any
>>725803706>all these latesLooks like my Taiki won't be activating SFV this race
>>725803587she got the ick from your choices bro
Anyone have the Virgo cheat sheet?
>teiofags found out the threadthread ruined
>>725803405>My Danchou, where the hell are the rooms?>Gone>What did you say>Gone>Are you telling me we have no aces>Yes>Oh, well>There is no Mile S, there is no Turf S, there is no rainbows, there is no reason to go on training, good die
Post it.
Thank god for my Taiki because my Vodka and Taishin are TERRIBLE
>>725803814hot and heavy gaslight image
>>725804138>Digitan in BI AM READY
>>725804082>>725804119Good win Taikibro
>>725804138
Doto says ___________
>>725804281nigger
>>725804138>potential unlockedI'll believe it when I see it.
Woah. Big rewards
So what is it about 1lb Riko that makes her enough instead of MLB or even 3lb?
I don't know wtf I'm doing in unity cup...
Guide doko?
so apparently summer rest doesn't cleanse slow metabolism...
>>725803303Source?
>>725804587Apply directly to the forehead.
>>7258047861LB makes her events on par with R Riko
>>725804898I just found out. Was a good run too. Rested twice just to make sure. I even had S mile. It's over for me.
>>725804898It's a % chance.
Tachyon lab event soon right?
>>725805248Sex
furious feat or it's on for vodka?
I got my first multi-Cutie claw prize!
>>725805486Furious feat
>>725805512Crap, picrel.
>just trying to get 2* sparks for the anni missions>1* Guts>1* Guts>1* Wit>1* Guts
CM564570460
Holy shit Riko is so cute I want to marry her and have children before her eggs dry
Sex
Wait was BoFA not buffed? They didn't make it only during mid-race?
>>725805726What the fuck Twin Turbo is CUTE!?
When the hell are we going to get new 1* or 2* trainees?
>>725805818
>>725805789That was part of the 2nd anniversary buffs, trainer. They buffed Iron Will and Calm and Collected instead>>725805879>He doesn't knowPretty much only in anniversaries, there's a grand total of 5 non-3* trainees we don't have
>>725805726Post results
>>725805707>AI slopgo back
>>72580593690% of Uma art is slop, sorry.
>>725805789Nope. Maybe CyACCELERATION will change it sooner than expected.
>>725805962If you get it from the cesspool that is R34 sure
>>725805741When I die at the young age of 125, I am begging God to give me a new life in a world where uma musume are real. Then I'll probably become a trainer and marry that world's equivalent of Seiun. Gold City tries to make me break my marriage vows but my love for my umawife is too strong and I say NO.
How does my Taiki lose she hit like 3 accels on final spurt
>Trainee fails two 7% trainings in a row>Clears a 38% training a few turns later
>>72580593252921063
>>725800845The robot is actually pretty cute
>>725806123Taiki sucks
>>725806174But enough about Teio.
>>725803151I've seen her win a couple of test rooms, she's not bad at all. Not a lot of people have her
>>725806159not looking good for latebros
>new girlboss villain>look inside>girlfailurewtf I demand my refund
>>725804138This image is such a gaslight its not even funny
I'm so pissed off Daitaku Helios' event didn't finish so I could have triple accel skills. It was the only reason I even used her card.
>>7258061596/9
>>725804138>default pasa not even on this listShe's been winning more than my Taiki in open lobbies.
>>725806159I would join but I only have 2
>>725805789BoFA deez nuts
>>725805879Seems like they only release new low-rarity umas around anniversaries>1st anniversary: Matikanetannhauser (2*)>2nd anniversary: Twin Turbo (1*)>3rd anniversary: Biko Pegasus (2*) and Ikuno Dictus (2*)>4th anniversary: Tsurumaru Tsuyoshi (2*)That's it. That's all the non-3*s we're getting within the next ~3 years or so, plus whatever new 1* or 2* they add for the 5th anniversary
They need to slow down with these CMs, I swear it hasn't even been a week since Leo
i don't know how to deal with these stupid blue bubbles and my umas end up worse than the ones i made in URA.i hate it when my games change.
>>725806506The next one isn't for a while at least, we got until december once this is done
>>725806531Some people are still struggling? Did you see the official video /v/ guide?
>>>/trash/NOT VIDEO GAMES
I've lost all faith in my Taiki
>>725806571I didn't, care to link it?
>>725806531https://files.catbox.moe/5ovmph.mp4
>>725806506>I swear it hasn't even been a week since LeoThat's because it really hasn't, anon. Leo finals were five days ago.This is the price we must pay for our accelerated schedule.
>>725801715>I don't understand Unity Cup.https://files.catbox.moe/5ovmph.mp4Here you go, the /v/ guide should explain everything
>>725806159Good race!73909049
I don't care about Virgo I'm panicking trying to build aces for the /v/ stakes!!!! I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME
>>725806684>Condor winning a lotSekai saikyou wa?
>Tosen Jordan and Dober are back to backAAAAAAAAH MY CARATS
>>7258066848/9
>>725806746SOUELCONDORPASA
>>725806684Post el deck
Is Runaway a meme or is it actually good?
>>725806684wtf I thought THE was nerfed
>>725806838Just swap Yaeno with something else, I forgot this scenario gives It's On!
>>725806684>>725806746SOU52474508
Don't co opt my metal gear for your horrific shit. Freaks.
>>725806980Oh good I can actually copy this, thank you thebro
I guess I'll make a god damn El Condor Pasa.Double Pace what could possibly go wrong
Stay mad troon
Is beating Turf Queens the hardest achievement in Uma global right now?
>>72580698470856583
>>725807189Beating turf queens is ridiculously hard i gotta agree, I've only won against them once or twice
>It's another SS speed B power grassStupid fucking game keeps making me fail 3%
>>725807221>Shooting for victoryIs that good for lates?
>All the rooms having different winnersYUP YUP, mileKINO is back
>>725807284I just had extra points and nothing better to spend it on
>My vodka got brockedAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I THOUGHT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE
>>72580722129037394
/v/ lobbies once again proving I'm a third rate trainer and will never win a plat. I really had myself fooled that Virgo would be the one.
>>725807482POTENTIAL
>>725807443But anon told me No Stopping Me! is worthless for Lates...
>>725807579NSM is a gamble skill, its worth on lates depends on how much you believe in your luck
>>725807554/v/ lobbies are harder than finals a
>First time joining a room since Unity>All the markers on the top bar suddenly move at light speed compared to old racesWhat in the god damn is happening?
>>7258074828/9
>>725807665ACCELERATION GAMEWhen the late gambler skills hit, they basically teleport to the front.
MORE ROOMS
>>725807482Damn, what deck are you guys using?
>>72580748232466330
>>72580781471993929
>>725807861
I find it funny how every race it's a different uma/trainer winning
>>72580787532646545
>>725808085Full Taiki for those curious.
I wanna do right by Rice this cup. Any tips for a Rice run? Recommended cards? Skills to prioritize? Aside from the obvious Determined Descent
From what I remember it's bad for umas to start in the outside right? Why do end closers and late surgers sometimes move so far away from the rail if that's the least distance to cover
>>725807952Another one38244195
>>72580808556923498
>>725807861I still have no idea what I'm doing.
>>725808214Pick a different trainee
>>725808241Maybe lates/ends want a clear fov to do their thing?
>>725808241Because otherwise they get stuck behind other umas
these rooms fills fast lol
>>7258082828/9
>>725808330Not an option
>>725808382Yeah, only way to guarantee a spot is make your own. People here are way too fucking competitive
Been doing some open rooms in the wild and my aces may be half baked but fuck if there’s not a ton of strong S umas in the wild loaded with skills. For once my late is struggling to maintain position. Taiki is incredibly strong. A well made late can do well but you might want some mid race skills so you’re not stuck 9th unable to pass or win the pump iron lottery. It’s brutal out there man. And Mile S is important you bet your bottom dollar.Anyhow check out this Gutsmaxer I found (they won btw)
So how's Eishin?
>>725808437The path of the strong is the road to the top.
>>725808483An anons making her to limited success, personally I think she should be good
>>725808214Run late surger in the long races. 500 stam and 300 guts minimum for tenno spring and even that is a big gamble. Probably gonna eat your alarms or your whole runs. You are probably gonna have to compromise on something, like getting a recovery skill or getting stamina sparks, making her stats weaker in the process
>>725808382You can set loadouts so people use that instead of adding one uma at a time like we used to before
>>725808483
>>725808483I'm going to try raising her once I get more borrows tomorrow, but it's RNG just to get her up to A Mile, so it will probably be a pain.
Anyone else feel like this is the last three days before the saiyans arrive?
>>725808282KINO90248108
>>725808435Rush stamina early to pass her checks, get lots of mid race skills. No inherit needed other than plancha
>>725808253Thanks for the race!
I could be mistaken but Akebono probably is a pokemon
>>725808592Yes, one of the reasons why these threads are so fucking good. Every CM is life or death high intensity training
>>725808549Damn how did I not see that before. That makes it much easier
>>725806649Almost like the schedule is....
>Akebono got third I fucking kneel, she is so cool
Am I unironically supposed to train guts here?
>>72580862416746777
8499 5357Virgo room let's do this
>>725808826What’s on the other ones? Dont bother if its just the single arrow. Raise affinity on your support cards
>>725808826Nope. Single unity training is bad, and it not being a support card to build bond with is worse. For that turn focus on whatever has the most supports to build bond, especially if it's wit
feels like A rank became a joke in unity cupway too easy now
>This thread
>>725808938Pass me a senzu carrot. I still need to make 2 more aces
>>725808927That's mostly because of all the gold skills
>>725808842that akebono is a sprint runner kek why is she even there
>Awful Moodoh fuck
>>725808842Buono!57086334
>>725808852Did I just lose to an El with sub 1000 speed?Good race nonetheless!
>>725808852Didn't expect that outcome9822 9075Virgo again, bring 3!
Vodka and El paizuri are performing ridiculously well.
Hey so does practice perfect stack now? Does charming also? I've had double and single circle practice perfect. Has it always been this way?
>>725808867>>725808917I fell for it again. The psyop never ends.
>>725808826It's still very early so I'd train Guts personally.You don't want to get buttfucked in the first Unity Cup preseason because of your teammates lack of stats.
>>7258090856/9
>>725809175Oof thats rough, for this reason I like to play it safe with the middle choice. I just don't like gambling....
>>725809175Did you pick the middle option? I usually pick middle in the first race if the odds look bad and I haven't done any spirit trainings. It's better than losing
>>725809175It appears you’ve fallen for my ruse!
>>725809175I WARNED YOU ABOUT THE UNITY TRAINING BRO
>>725809196>>725809175I was too late... gomen...
>my vodka either wins or makes the podium every timeSplendid, looks like it's time to move on to project taishin
>>725809085Good race.
>>725809369That single guts training on fuku would not have won him the race though. Best case it's 2/5
>>725809447GGs, now it’s burger time
>>725804138>600 in every stat minimum>Also maxed out speedEven with the new campaign I don't understand how this is possible
>>725808826unlike ura training frequency doesn't increase facility level, instead it depends on winning unity races/team rankso i'd just train whatever once in a while if that's the only good thing to do (white arrows, etc.)
>>725809131Really not expecting these results, they were getting butt whooped days earlier.7154 4502Doing last one. Virgo bring 3.
>>725809514Post deck so we can help, and look at the winners, ideal stats do not mean minimum.
/v/ is.....very strong....
>>7258094582 wins when 2 races were draws is still a win overall
18 lobby for fun bring 2
>>725809626Only 90% of us.The other 10% are just pretty strong.
>>725808842Deck for that akebono? Holy fucking based.
>>725809712Humilliation ritual
>>725809539Thanks for the races and jiggly Taikis!
>>725809712I am dumbass91355805
>>725809712Your forgot the room lil bro!
>>725809712Kingbros what the fuck is this
>>725809712Machanbro....
>>725809447damn no more lobbies? i was looking to join its my first time ill def lose
>>725809626I'm still not strong enough. I need even more power.
>>725809712Kingu-sama...
>>725809819Make it and they will come, I saw multiple different trainers in lobbies.
>>725806684Wait, how'd you get Mile Maven on El Condor Pasa?
>>725809769>instafilled
>>725809769Damn that filled up fast
>>725809867NTA, but use R Taiki to get mile maven when you select your team name
>>725809805Alright, here's another one51958834
>Runaway>Runaway>Runaway>Runaway
>>725809769So this is the /v/ictory stakes preview....
How is my Rudolf
>>725809712>The Vodka and Scarlet ended up next to each other in the lobbyKINO
>>725809769>that Daiwa ZOOMINGHOW?
>>725809982Needs on your left or furious feat, other than that its nigh perfect, post a lobby
>>725809982Would be better with Furious Feat and/or On Your LeftOguri/Grass SSR and Nice Nature SSR respectively. Otherwise looking pretty strong
A FUCKING COW
>>725809712>>725809769Suzukas imploded and blocked everyone.What the hell did I expect?
>>725809953>only the one with near max stamina avoided being in the last places
>JOBka
Are Daiwa bros finally gearing up towards Graded league?
Oy neigh is still recruiting btw, I spot left if you need a club
>>725810052I feel like no one understands Vodka and Scarlet and they just understand the anime and Scarlet "lmao owner wanted big boobs" joke.
>>725810123They just are gay for each other
>>725809712>>725809769Varied winners in all the rooms great fun!
>>725810116>A+ club>still a vacancyIs this hmmmmm...maybe not looking so good for Oy Neigh?
>>725809928well that was even worse than i expected but thanks for the game!
>>725809928Good race!
>>725810017She procced SfV, then Resplendant Red Ace right as she passed into 2nd, then Straight Descent right afterI didn't even know post-buff Red Ace worked like that but I'm not complaining
>>725810202They kicked a flatliner out today
>>725810195>Inherited Shooting for Victory on pace chaserI think shooting is working really well for Taiki, so why not inherit it for a pace right now. I think it's one of the few good abilities a pace can inherit outside of pasa's, maybe better than pasa's right now. Really strong Daiwa there
>My FUARKING RIVALS are growing stronger>I still don't have my aces ready
>>725810229Fair enoughIf you're not in a /v/ club, now's your chance. I mean it's Oy Neigh, they're A+. You'd be a fool not to join
>>725810298>Put the best of my glue runs in>2nd 2nd 2nd 2nd 2ndMan.
>>725806315>Riko mogging every uma in the roster except for maybe Gold CIty.Uma sisters ... we got too COCKY
I'm not even mad that im losing a bunch, I've stolen all your umas. They'll be used in my experiments and to improve my own umas tenfold.
>>725810370This is what happened when I did random open (whale) rooms today. Painful, but I know mine can be better.I actually won a few here today. So just understand there's even stronger ones out there right now. You guys are of course pretty strong! But there's S BEASTS out there if you step out into the wild
Is it worth making front runners now that Runaway Suzuka can steal first in the final corner? Or does my S Maru still have a shot? I feel like Front Runners were nerfed from the patch.
>>725806315Dokushin!
>Every uma I make basically has to get lucky to winTell me why I shouldn't shoot myself right now
>>725810502>there's S BEASTS out there if you step out into the wildI'm aware, and they'll die to the harpoon all the same
>>725810451
>>725810529Welcome to mileKINO.
>>725810529To be fair in short distance races every race is a gamble
Was Oguri a gaslight pick? I never saw one won before
>>725810502>there's S BEASTS out there if you step out into the wildBRING ME STRONGER OPPONENTS
>>725810414Excellent taste anon
>>725810632She's been good in 3/5 CMs, there's just nothing for her in mile
>>725800725My Goldship, Grass Wonder and Vodka meme team is ready.
>>725810529This is how it is for everyone, even really strong umas. They have better "luck" but they can still get fucked by an uma far lower ranking without capped speed or even mile/turf S. Sometimes the race just plays out a certain way where even the strongest get screwed. Cancer was very gambling heavy, I'm sure this will be no different. Late gamblers seem to thrive, with pace doing much better than they did in Cancer. Suzuka is everywhere so it's rare to see a front actually survive. Those Taishins I saw earlier were also insane, she must be better.
>>725810516Ooniges are surprisingly bad at blocking angling and scheming actually. You actually need a good stat build to make it work and not gas too quick. I would suggest doing practice rooms with ooniges yourself
>>725810676Room, I need more enemies
>>725810691I disagree I don't think there's enough gambling right now. Why is nobody using Fuku with Super Lucky? Scared, Potter?
>>725810638You called?
>>725810759I just have other umas I'd like to use right now. Fuku...insists upon herself. Might build her up for long
>>725810759I'd put it on Teio if it was possible, but I have to settle for Lucky Seven.
Hey guys, don't forget about second rate trainers okay?
>>72581073232409194
>>725810529Umamusume is luck game
I... I like Vodka.
>well those were some fun races>maybe I have enough TP now for another run>11/30for the first time since Taurus I'm tapping into carats to do more runs. The apology carats justify this, but only have used that forbidden technique a handful of times
>S rank VodkaNow THAT'S what I'm talking about
>>725810976Personally I'm in a weird phase where no other game feels fun right now, so I don't have anything to do when my TP is empty
I still don't have my own riko....
>>725811041Surprised there isn't an Uma edit of this yet.
ROOMS
>>725810860Umamusume is whale game.
How many more days of free card rolls?
>>725811063For me it's not even about making stronger aces, although I would like to do that. I more just want to see what I'm capable of, and there's actually many trainees I want to train up but just don't have the TP for it. I don't like the idea of spending carats...however! 10 carats a refill isn't the worst. I sometimes have Team trials races that gives me 5-10 carats or so. Ways I see it, if I cook up something good, that might secure me another plat and that's the difference between 1000/1500/2000 carats. Assuming I can even make it to A this time. Not too worried about it, but I just want to keep playing honestly
63402588
>>725811205I don't even have good enough parents to justify it. I run out of borrows and my day is over
>>725811187When the pequod sails you'll see monsters like that and more, remember to save it and PRACTICE. If it can bleed it can die
>both Kitasan and Neicha SSRs didn't finish their chainsIf that run wasn't already glue, I would be quite upset right now.
>>7258007253 days is no biggie, this will be fun. We will slay the whales like tis tradition.How have rooms gone today? Any development in the meta?
>>725811330I thought the patch was supposed to fix this, but apparently not. I've had the same happen too.
>>725811412We don't know
>>7258112386/9
>>725811412It's all over the place
>>725811420It's much rarer now, happens more frequently the more SSRs you have on deck
>>725811063Meanwhile I'm struggling to try to balance Uma and Inazuma.
>>725811261>Something has crept or been driven out of the dark water under the Hanshin Turf>There are older and fouler things than whales in the deep places of the world
Damn, Daiwa posters really love AI
>>725811412paizuri. want more paizuri. mucho paizuri! MORE PAIZURI
>>725811469Wish Sunless Sea got a sequel. A good sequel.
Whoever made the video guide if you're here, thanks a lot im doing much better now. I can't compete yet but one day I'll board the pequod too.
>>725811412Taiki is still really strong, her ability is probably good on paces (Crazy Daiwa won with it earlier)Runaway suzukas pretty much always gas especially if challenged by other SuzukasLates are still really strongNavigation abilities are good tooIt's random as fuck, but I'm surprised how good Taiki is now. For once she's actually living up to her title
>>725801101What the rfuck is this schedule
>>725800725In the tranime version of MGSV your dick would be missing instead of the arm
>>725800927
>>725811656UMA MUSUME IS CYACCELERATION GAME
>>725811612A decently built Suzuka doesn't gas out when alone. You're confusing lack of stamina with the fact that runaway has abysmal top speed late race and no skill budget for any late race skills. Runaways just get lapped by other styles in late race, especially with the plentiful accel skills available now.
It's kind of sad how just the free pulls bolstered my supports so much. I must have really wasted a lot of carats early on rolling for umas, but I don't really remember. I went into this game blind like 2 weeks after kitasan banner so I was fucked anyways. At least now I have MLB SR speed cards
>>725811743That's all you need to compete. Good stuff anon.
where is SHE
Some of you are so competitive it makes me insecure that my barely A+ umas will completely eat shit against monsters.
>>725801986>Night Owl from restingfeels like they significantly reduced the chances of this happeningsure 30 energy sleeps still happen pretty often but not with night owl debuff which used to appear at least every other run
>180 pulls>1lb rice>0lb rikoassuming i wont get either of them in the next 20, for whom should i spark?
Tummamusume
>>725811904That's a child you sick fuck
>>725811904Fuck off back to /vg/ we are training
>>725811885Riko
>>7258118852Lb doesn't really do anything for Rice so 1Lb riko is the bigger boost.
>>725811885Riko 100%, the jump from LB1 to MLB for rice is pathetic
>>725811863Yesterday I got a Migraine event that didn't actually proc the Mood Down, just gave me Migraine. Almost went the whole career without cleansing it but finally got a Mood Down in senior year>>725811904MAYANO GIVE ME THE SPARKS OR YOU WILL NEVER BE AN ADULT
>>725811859I didn't do shit to prep for Leo. The day before I started frantically running aces and I ended up going plat. The people actually being competitive here are cream of the crop compared to the majority of players.
>>725811494She’s doing alright
Sometimes I wish I could just whale a bit to get the umas I want or become even stronger but I refuse, I will only swipe for the selectors.
>>725811997>the jump from LB1 to MLB for rice is patheticDon't be silly, it gains +10% training effect among other relevant things. It's a strong card at MLB. The question was about 2LB though which gives basically nothing, those 3LB and MLB are the big boosts. I've gotten 3LB rice from pulls and she's great, goes in every deck now and I'll spark the banner for MLB.
>>725812110Would you say el paizuri is better than base condor or vodka?
>>725812121>I've gotten 3LB rice from pullsExplode and congratulations, jealous but I got spooked by shitasan so no room to complain
>>725812113Yeah to actually whale on cards is a pretty bad deal financially...I mean that should be obvious. But to MLB an SSR could take you upwards of hundreds of dollars per card? Reallyyyy not worth it when better cards will power creep you down the line anyway, especially with how fast things are moving for us. But I suppose it depends on how deep your pockets are. Maybe you work a part-time job and got money to blow just for whaling, I'm sure some people do that kek
Look at this cutie and her eyelashes
>>725812113At least you're not gambling on horses.
>>725812158She should be in this track at least, her potentials are amazing for this track and the unique is a very strong accel. I don't think I've seen any mention of her, mostly because no one has her.
>>725812214Sol horsegirl
>>725812214>untrainableI'm so FUCKING MAD.
I wish there was an overview screen at the end of a race that showed the track and when/where each of your trainees skills popped and if they popped or not
>>725812249I agree with this, she's very underrated and the ones we have here have consistently showed they're very strong even with lower stats they can beat other lates or ends.
>>725812214why her head is so big?
>>725812270I'm sure there's a tool out there for this, but yeah it should be in the game
>>725812158Hard to say. I think her unique is pretty good, possibly better than both of those options. She has access to Furious Feat and some other stuff, so she’s similar to Vodka. What’s worse about her is she has a 15% guts growth and zero power growth. Other 15% goes to speed which is nice but Vodka has better growths (speed and power). Paizuri might edge her when built right, but any strong late will do.You know who I think is secretly good or maybe it’s not so secret is Gold City as a late. Ive seen her win a lot of rooms. I dont know if they’re just dedicated trainers or what but she seems strong. Then again, even Nice Nature can destroy as a late when built right.
>riko doesn't start dating pre christmasShe's useless.
>>725812387Gold City is excellent but you'd be surprised how inconsistent she can be, I've saved a couple and collected a lot of data from her. She will either come first or second depending on if ult procs and she managed to use her dominator. Honestly even feel like she's underexplored, but i don't have her so I can't test my theories
>>725812469Yup yup as another trainer put it in a previous thread she's really high risk and high reward, she relies A LOT in position 6-5 if you miss that window shes dead in the water she really needs mid race skills
>>725812214Taiki wanted to put a bullet in this...
>>725812469There's a lot of umas and many have really low ownership, dedicating up to 200 pulls for uma is a huge commitment. All the content creators mostly focus on the free/most popular umas so the rare but strong ones tend to get ignored.
>>725812305>even with lower stats they can beat other lates or ends.I'm sorry mine's not perfect yet. I've been trying to come to grips with Unity but I also have been having some shit luck in some of these runs. I've been close to perfect but I might have to settle with the sub-optimal one. I think it will be good enough for graded league probably but I'll keep trying. She's good, but I've also gotten my ass kicked by strong Vodkas. I'll keep trying for a better Paizuri but I kind of just want to work on Taiki. I genuinely had no idea either of these trainees would be doing this well, but I'm starting to see which abilities are really nice to have.
>>725812214For me, it's little coon.
>>725812387The power growth may not be as bad as it seems, but maybe I'm only basing this off of training Taishin who seems to get a ton of power despite 0% training also. I don't quite get the same results with Teio so it feels like some of the discrepancy is purely in the character events.
>finish parent training>no skills sparks>do it again>no skill sparks>do it again>get 2 star skills>but 1 star wit>2 star power>2 star stam.. but no skill sparksAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE I'M TIRED I DONT CARE ABOUT THE CM ANYMORE! I'LL JUST TAKE THE PARTICIPATION CARATS
>>725812585true, there are barely any Hishiama or Brian posters here. but, on their behalf:
>>725812668I've gotten close to maxing power and speed with Condor but I need good RNG for it with the blue balls. I've got a pretty big chunk of strength sparks to get her there. Something always seems to go wrong, but if I had another week or so I'm pretty sure I could make close to an S beast.
>>725812762There's no time to train parents, Rice Shower.We have to start ace training immediately. They will be arriving in three days.
Trying to build an Ace Taiki. Am I correct in thinking I absolutely must get Mile Maven from picking her team name and Head On from her secret event?
I'm still not strong enough. I need more rooms.
has anyone experimented with fuji kiseki?
>>725812765She's incredibly comfy to build in unity but she doesn't really have any highlights for this cup in her kit. She spooked me in SMaru banner so I'll run her as one of my aces anyway.
>>725812387Anecdotally speaking, my vodka pretty frequenly wins rooms and the vast majority of the time makes it to the top 3 but consistently loses to el paizuri, granted. My vodka is not up to my standards and I will be improving her now that I built parents for hers, nor is the sample size that large. But I've noticed she edged her out in the final straight due to rising dragon and the guts bonus is pretty good for dueling. I wouldn't count her out
>>725812803Fantasy seems to get a lot of small to medium power boosts from her events which seems to help at least. I would say that's the big thing, don't underestimate a character's events. They can add up to over 100 points in a stat.
>>725812585I can't wait for my useless wife Win Variation to come to EN in 3 years!
>>725812946I don't have her but I've simulated plenty of races with her under different conditions and she's very underrated, I'd say she's one of the viable pace chasers and a strong pick, if you've ever gone against a good one you'll know.
>>725812956based. looks strong too!
>>725812469>Honestly even feel like she's underexplored, but i don't have her so I can't test my theoriesI feel like a decent chunk of the umas are unexplored simply because there aren't a lot of anons who care enough to try building them (or who own them at all, in the case of some of the 3*s). Especially since we have so little time to prepare for each CM, which means most players will gravitate towards building umas they already know are strong and/or easy to build.Wouldn't be surprised if there were a couple sleeper picks waiting to be discovered. Kinda like turf Falco, except probably not as dominant.
>>725812956Post room, need data on hishi
>>725812923She has Mile Maven as her potential 5 ability. That way if you join team Carrot, you can also get No Stopping Me, and then Taiki's innate Mile Maven is there guaranteed. Mile Maven gives you a little speed boost at the start of the match, which allows your pace to be in good position to pass the fronts later on and prevent yourself from getting blocked. No Stopping me is nimble navigator and only activates if you're blocked, but when it does go off it gives you a pretty big boost and allows you to pass the others. It's way more inconsistent though. Head On seems pretty good, but you can also just RNG it I'm pretty sure as well. But you should try and do the secret event as it gives you a bunch of stats too. The straight descent and prepared to pass also seem good for paces as well. Definitely grab It's On! too, tail held high if you can find it. professor of curvature will actually trigger on the final corner this time, they fixed it. It's really good now. But it might trigger early on too, but anything to get your pace to the front is good.
>>725813005I go for every power boost I can in the events yeah, and she has respectable power, but you also need to nurture it more than you wuold a character with power growth like vodka or grass, if you're someone like me who is used to training those. Just something to keep in mind if training Paizuri. Cards with power bonuses are obviously desired, so maybe King Halo over Tosho if you have to chose one over the other.
I keep getting hot spring tickets with Grass. What does this mean for me?
Tell it to me straight... Will any of these survive the finals?
too focused on my parents and deck to realize i picked the wrong scenario lol
>>725813131The borrow limit really doesn't help, I've had an eishin flash and meisho doto experiment I've been running in the background to decent success that I simply do not have the time or borrows needed to fully explore in depth. Hopefully i can finish my team early so I can explore them in depth like I want
>>725813161>only activates if you're blockedIt was buffed and is incredibly consistent. It literally only requires there to be an uma directly ahead of you or one lane to the side (2,5m away) for 1 second. The pre-buff version was literally "if you're blocked". >>72581313623722253
>>725813263Uhhh yeah.I'd go with the one on the left, but they're all very strong. That one looks like a monster with the 100+ speed, Mile S and max power. You have enough stamina/guts to survive and great wit, good abilities too. She'll kill it
>>725813161Thanks for the advice Bakubro, I'm gonna actually try to win this CM, wish me luck
>>725813251Spe-chan... Grass keeps rigging those raffles to lure you somewhere secluded...
>>725813236I have been running King Halo in my decks, so that may be why I have no issues. I'm just running this like URA+. But it does feel like her lack of fan and race bonus is more crippling in this scenario than normal.
I thought this game was about cute girls not excel simulator...
>>725813329Well it doesn't always go off in the races I've done, but Mile Maven pretty much always goes off at the start is what I mean. No stopping me definitely seems good and I recommend running BOTH for Taiki. When it goes off it really helps her get ahead. If you had to choose between one or the other, No Stopping Me kicks in at the end of the race whereas Maven is early on, so factor that in if you have to choose a team. You could do Mile Maven and then just grab nimble navigator which is pretty common to run into randomly
>>725813457MLB King and MLB Kita are a pretty big deal since they both have power bonus. Remember that you get that base power increase even when those supports are on power/guts and due to how unity works you'll be hitting random training types a lot more than in URA where you spammed speed.
>>7258133294/9 join pls
>>725813482Guess again motherfucker
I don't wanna CM.
>>725813482Won't it be funny if your excel simulator can flip bits at random haha...
>>725813482It can be both...however right now this is srs bsns. There's carats on the line. A big race to train for every 2-3 weeks. Big patches changing the meta so we're in unknown territory. Not much time, so people are getting serious is all
>>725813536That's why I ended up really valuing power bonus on cards more often. That said, it's also why I think Brian got better as a card with this scenario and I sort of see what people are doing with Wit now. Getting 20 speed just because Brian decided to park on rainbow Wit is pretty insane. In the end, it does feel like you have to pick better power gains from speed cards or better speed gains from wit training.
>>725813482It's about making the cute girls as strong as possible, and to do that sometimes you gotta crunch some goddamn numbersUmamusume is wit game
>>725813263These look really good, what deck did you use?
>>725813329Hishi missed all accells. That being said my Vodka with S turf and mile generally wins anyway over her. Here's another: 29585422
>>725813783Yup, I saw that, my vodka decided to become a pace chaser. Interesting race, I'm gonna steal that hishi for my testing.
I'm all in on Manhattan Cafe. Don't care how good or bad she is. Agnes Digital is for e-girl zoomers, miss me with that forced cutesy irony shit.
>>725813743MLB King, Eishin, Fuku, Nice Nature, 3LB Kita, and a borrowed MLB Riko
>>725813919>Agnes Digital is for e-girl zoomers, miss me with that forced cutesy irony shit.I like Cafe but this is an absolutely dogshit take. Glue yourself
>>725813919There's nothing ironic about Digitan's lust for horses
>>725813919but Agnes Digital is my spirit animal...
>>725813919There's nothing ironic about being a rapist
>>725813919Cafe looks like an absolute menace for long races with that gold stamina eater.
>>725814037>t. Filthy Chestnutter
>>725813919Cafe is gonna be great, so will digital.
>>725814058>gold stamina eater.
>>725813939thanks anon
>>725814058Her unique also acts as a speed debuff too
>after milekino we get shlong distance race for pussiesAnyone gonna pass on the next CM? That semen-slurping distance is just not for me
>>725814335medium/long is where real stat building and strategy comes into play, Mile is just a fucking gamble casino with 1200 speed pow wit
is it true that there's a groundwork support card now? I've been relying on ~10-ish sparks and borrowing the suzuka card to unsuccessfully make front runners, is it worth getting rid the suzuka card for whatever this new one is? missing out on front runner savvy sounds like a big downside though
>>725814335But I love slurping semen
>>725814383That card is for groundwork parent breeding, it's not good enough to use on an ace
>shop glitches twice in a row and gives me 5 more tickets
>>725814370>medium/long is where real stat building and strategy comes into play>real strategy>Gemini was just pic relatedDont gas and use straightaway spurt wow such strategy
>>725814387-1000000 PR to teiobros holy shit
>>725814387Behead all teiobros
>>725814383SSR Smart Falcon gives guaranteed groundwork from first event, don't even need to finish the chain.
>>725814335That's the only distance where I feel confident in reaching the platinum. My account has gradually become seeded for longslop and that's the only distance where I can really flex that advantage.
>>725814441>gift box glitches out and gives me the 1,500 carat reparations twiceany other luck chats in the thread?
>>725814480headpat all teiobros!
>>725814387We know, Nishino Flower, we know.
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>>725814435not good enough in what sense?>>725814486>don't even need to finish the chaingoddamn that is very enticing
If I had more time I would have trained Teio and Rice Shower for this race but I actually would like to win so I opted not to
>>725814586That random teleport event that stops you from training her for the turn is really annoying
HEE HEE
>>725814605>not good enough in what sense?NTA but it's not good enough in the same sense that you wouldn't run air groove on an ace run because it won't give you the stats you want. At 0LB though I actually don't think she's the worst SSR, but not really ideal for stat building on your ace is all.
>>725814487
>>725803151As per usual, her OG is better. Her accel unique tied to whether or not she passed someone so it becames unreliable whether it trigger too early or too late.
>>725814675>KING IF YOU DON'T BEAT YOUR BEST TIME I'LL BLOW THIS ENTIRE FOREST SKY HIGH
>>725814669Is that not less of a factor now with Unity? Everyone's running just 2 speed cards or some shit and I have no idea how they're doing that
>>725814624I will always run Teio, I must. If I can't win with her, I don't deserve to win at all.
Mayano Top CunCunny CrossInari CunCun TurboHaru UohohCun ShowerNishino DeflowerSweep ToshuuoooohhMarvelous Cunday
>>725814749I mean, you're right, but you're just gimping yourself even if technically you could run away with it. You have more flexibility with cards, but each slot still matters since you only have six. Instead of a shit power card at 0LB, you could be running say... MLB Daitaku Helios which is a strong pick for this race for a number reasons, just one example. You might want to run more wit cards, or more speed cards. But point being you're sacrificing a statstick when you could just inherit groundwork the old fashioned way. Yes it's more cumbersome, but with the right parents it can be quite reliable. If you dont have a good groundwork parent or a couple of them, you're not in a good place to be making fronts.
>>725814752based
>>725814653KEK
>shop glitches and doesn't give me 5 copies of kitasan black in a 10 pullwhen are they fixing this shit?
>>725814335Nah, longs are my strongest distance.
>>725814448My genius master plan for Libra cup is to simply use THREE end closers with straightaway spurtSurely there is no way this could fail!
>>725815038>65k Goddamn, double megabanner spark i assume?
>>725814653
I'm gonna run Oonige suzuka in every long CM just to feel something.
-100 PR POINTS TO TEIOBROS+1 PR Points to Mayanons (-999 points for calling Inari One and Marvelous lolis)
I CAN'T BUILD A FUCKING GOOD TAIKI OR LATES THEY'RE ALLERGIC TO TURF SPARKS AND THEIR STATS ARE ALWAYS UNDERWHELMING
>>725815060That is unironically probably THE strat. Anyhow I wanted to run some runners that I don't normally run. I think running like a Taishin + Golshi team would be strong. I know one anon did something similar and with McQueen as a 3rd. Wonder if Runaway Suzuka can even block anyone there. Fronts will probably struggle. Lates I'm not so sure, but they werent very popular during Gemini.
>>725815106Post deck, have you watched the guide?
>>725815068I'm shooting for either a double or triple spark, yeah. Depends on how Kita rerun, Xmas Ogurin, and NY Urara turn out.The hoarder's life is painful, but I refuse to be like the Seiunlets.
>>725815084Please restrain yourself from breaking Suzuka's legs
I had a dream where i was talking to fuku, and pulled yaeno muteki, but she walked up to me, punched me in my chest, and then i woke up. what does that mean?
Taishin is a very strange uma, you can give her amazing stats and skills but she only wins when she feels like it, while Gold Ship is always a reliable End closer
Teio is honestly such a fucking smug cunt that I'm glad that she gets such abysmal dogshit posters to represent her. I should commission an artist to recreate a cartel execution with her
>>725815060It's not an awful plan. Long is end closer playing ground in general since late race is so long and they get to fully abuse their highest top speed.
>>725815165Universal>MLB Kita>+3 Sweep>+3 Biko>+1 SSR RikoLates>+3 Helios >MLB VodkaTaiki>MLB Fine Motion>flip flopping between Marvelous Sunday or +3 Helios I can't watch the guide because catbox won't fucking open anymore.
>>725815195Goldshi kinda cheats with her unique being very strong mid game skill with huge duration. It generally pushes her near paces when late race starts. Other end closers start from way further back.
>>725815197You sound upset
>>725815152>I think running like a Taishin + Golshi team would be strong. I know one anon did something similar and with McQueen as a 3rd.I remember that, the guy with the 100% win rate? I'm probably gonna steal that team too. I wonder what the power requirements are gonna look like.
>>725815193Why do the folks here get such strange uma dreams. Someone not too long ago spake of a dreaming where Tazuna almost futa raped him
>>725815295>Why do the folks here get such strange uma dreamsyesterday i played umamusume for about 3 hours, then drank 20mg of melatonin before going to sleep, if that makes any difference
>>725815295I had a dream I make a fucking cracked Maruzensky and then woke up.
>>725815295>dream
>>725815295I had one but it wasn't that weird. I just had to go to Taishin's classroom with her and she got embarrassed about it.
>>725815359>grinds aces during the day>dreams of grinding aces during the night
>>725815216Not to mention the boost from straightaway spurt is fucking insane. It was night and day vs a golshi who had it and one who didnt have it. Even if your golshi wasn't perfect, spurt gave you a huge advantage. That's what I think makes them advantageous over lates in this instance. I think paces might have a better shot after the buffs to a lot of those skills. But it should still be dominated by end.
>>725815295I unironically had a dream last night where I did a cheeky 10 scout and got Full Armor Fuku and Seiun back to back.I didn't want either of them.
>>725815197Teiobros luckshit extra gibs though?
>>725815295I had a dream about Aston machan but then I woke up
>>725815295>Someone not too long ago spake of a dreaming where Tazuna almost futa raped himAnon that wasn't a dream.
>>725815454Horrifically on brand.
>>725815454
>>725815442
sorry Suzuka, you're going back to Rigil
>>725815586Do Hanafags even exist?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>725815542revoking your license effective IMMEDIATELY
>>725815262Huh, interesting catbox works perfectly fine for me. I wanna ask. Do you have King halo by any chance? Ive found her a lot more useful than sweep with the power bonus and arguably better skill (firm conditions), i think your decks should look a little bit like this>LatesKita, Biko, Halo (if applicable), Riko, Wit Nature, MLB vodka>Taiki Kita, Halo, Riko, Fine Motion,Fuku (if you have it), Sunday. Full power legacies.
is there any info about when we could get an Uma selector?
So does anyone know how much guts/stamina Suzuka needs? Or should you not bother with that and just go in on power? I don't want her to gas immediately because she wont even block anyone if that happens.
>>725815726Selector?
>>725815736If she's the only one in the lobby around 800-900. If there's another suzuka, she'll gas out no matter what
>fail a 2% 3 rainbow training>mood down>mood down event, migraine>race>after race, mood down eventI'm going to kill El Condor Pasa
>>725815295I actually had one where Taiki and I were in England because she wanted to show Europeans how to have a proper American barbecue where she wanted me to be her taste tester. She ended up getting mad at me because I refused to eat meat and then she had invited her entire extended family (which included Sweep Tosho, Kanye West and Bill Clinton) and they strung me by a tree and pelted me with a bunch of fruit while laughing at me. I only amazed to get out because my mother came in and but some kinda liquid on me which shrink my limbs and let me slither out
>>725815736It's not that huge, like 700-800 stamina is plenty. She only dies if there's another Suzuka to compete against, then the requirement skyrockets.
>>725815774I don't see any of them running any healing abilities. Couldnt we pop maestro on her and increase her survivability? Or are people more invested in mid-race skills and stuff
you can pick whether you want your girl to run in front or at the back but you can't tell them to prefer the inner or the outer track?
>>725815751well we got a "choose-your-support card" ticket with part 3 of the half anni. i owndered whether we could choose an uma like that
>>725815774looks like i'm training an emergency evil nature tonight
>>725815838After the patch they all spread out super wide on the final corner. My Monk Condor tends to go faaaar outside for some reason. I don't know if that's just a late feature or what. Fronts tend to stick inside it seems
>>725815693King is sadly only +1. Also I have neither a wit nature or a MLB Vodka, that's a loaner. Vodka is a late I could build, at which case I can rent the Wit Nature and use either a MLB Amazon/Bourbon (better stats) or the +3 Helios (better skills). If I were to build Grass Wonder it'd be a different story.
>>725815853We get paid ones every 6 months for 15-20 bucks starting 1st anniversary, also comes with 1500 carats
>>725815853Not that I know of. There was a paid one recently on JP, on their fourth anniversary but I welcome anyone to correct me if I'm wrong.
>>725815853I believe future paid banners give you a selector ticket, but I'm not sure. Probably wont see another one like that till anniversary (fourish months)?
>>725815885If you do that then the only one you'll be debuffing is yourself.
>>725815824like so?
>>725815853There's a banner where you can pick any uma if you spark the banner some point in the future. I don't think we get (full access) uma selector ticket at any point.>>725815895Basically umas will actively go as wide as they need to secure an unblocked lane now. So generally the further back the wider they need to fan out.
>>725815895 does that mean her rising dragon skill is good? the description made it sound pretty luck based
>>725815885No, you shouldn't do that. Stamina debuffs are kind of pointless here and most Poozukas only are there to act as debuffers to other fronts. If you're gonna train nature, train her to win because she can definitely be good as a proper ace.
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>>725815961Looks pretty cool. You that suzuka guy? No groundwork proc but I've noticed groundwork isn't really all that important on the Runaway Suzuka. They seem to get to the front regardless. Does this Suzuka actually win without gassing? (assuming no other suzukas are fighting her)
>>725815985>she can definitely be good as a proper aceMy only win during all of Leo round 2 was my Neicha winning somehow, so I believe it
what is runaway
>>725816016Nice nice, yeah I think I'll do this too. Did straightaway recovery get buffed? I heard it can still fuck you like BOFA and proc super early
>>725816068New running style that only Suzuka can access for now. Super front runner.
>>725816052There's been some really strong Neicha trainers around here. As a proper late ace she is super good. Someone was saying her unique is kind of like a gimped down Oguri's, but it's still useful. Give her the right abilities and she's just as competent as any Vodka or whatever
>>725816092are you fucking kidding meyou jackasses said summer maru was going to dominate for years
>>725816092Do debuffs that hit front runners still hit ooniges?
>>725816151Nobody predicted that Cygames would accelerate THIS fast. They added years worth of updates and balance changes from the JP version. It blindsided everybody
>>725815895If your uma swings out wide then that means she was in the middle of overtaking or didn't secure a spot close to the railing because she was given an outer gate. You can play around with this mechanic but it's much harder to manipulate than blockushin builds
>>725815898You probably wanna build vodka or grass for a late because they have the good accel skills built in. The best comp that works with them is either 3 speed 2 wit 1 riko or 3 speed 1 wit 1 power 1 riko (I use this one), so In your case it should look something like>Kita, Sweep, Biko, Riko, Helios, Borrow wit natureOr if you wanna build grass>Kita, Sweep, Biko, Riko, Fuku/Motion/Sunday (depending on who you have ), borrow MLB OguriFor Taiki you want at least 2 wit because wit is extremely important for pace, probably something like>Kita, Biko,Riko,3 wit cards, full power legacyPost an ace if you want me to give pointers or criticism. Also definetelt figure out catbox, the guide is great
>>725816151That was before they decided to drop a year and a half worth of QoL and balance changes (some of which are still broken) on us out of nowhere
>>725815542>Touch water>Cured all of that ails youSounds like umas are participating in the wrong sport
>>725816151Super runners in JP got released after two years, no one knows why Cygames decided to drop it into global along with half anniversary buffs
>>725816151Summer maru is still the best front runner, people are still winning with her look at the rooms posted. I predict suzuka will be rare
>>725815984In theory, I think it could be yeah. I'm debating on unlocking her potential 5. Should I go for it? She tends to be on the outside MOST of the time, and I plan on remaking her anyways, but we're so short on time. And my coinage situation has been drained
>>725816028>You that suzuka guy?i wish. i am, but a humble suzufriend, following in the steps of a legend>Does this Suzuka actually win without gassingdidnt get around to try that out. i rarely join rooms anyway
