Okay, but what if games made using generative AI end up being way better than the current line of games that have been released in this past decade?Would you really be some seething, luddite, curmudgeon towards AI even if it means that games could very well in the future be better coded, have higher quality assets, be cheaper to produce and are able to ship way sooner?>But but...Muh pajeets poo in looYou faggots act as if fucking Indians aren't already being used for cheap, exploitable labor in game development right now. Just look at the Elden Ring credits right now and see how many Pajeets you'll see. The only valid concern I see about AI being used in game development is that these greedy ass publishers will save tens, if not, hundreds of millions in development and will still want to charge $80+ for games.
That would be one less reason to work or go outside.I'm in.
>What if this magically *didn't* suck???
Okay, but what if my ass were a rocket ship? Then I could post on the moon
My problem is that I believe this is a slippery slope "give an inch" kind of situation. That's why I am a so called luddite consumer.There was some good CGI back in the 80s and 90s. Wow, CGI is so good! It's actually impressive! Damn, and they can do it for cheap!Fast forward to 2025. Miniature experts are all but extinct. Lighting experts? A joke. Green screen slop is at an overdrive because it's efficient. The average slop movie from the 90s that was unwatchable back then at least now has the novelty of having any sort of soul to it that does not exist in modern cinema. Take Judge Dredd, for example. Horrible movie. That city? A masterpiece that no modern movie can recreate.And CGI isn't a weird proomptslop plagiarism machine like AI is.So, no, even if some game made with AI comes out and looks good, I will not make the deal with that Devil.>But it's unavoidable, AI is here to stay, AI will replace all actual talent, everyone will become dependent on itAlright, even if that's the case, at least I will know I won't have monetarily supported any of it. It won't have been my fault.
If a small percentage of current games are good, lowering the barrier and removing artistry won't improve that percentage>But but...Muh pajeets poo in looYou and everyone advocating for AI are honorary Indians
>>725811660This is unhealthy
AIfags seem fundamentally incapable of understanding what a game is. Game is supposed to have a defined set of rules and content not be some kind of endless pleasure cube hallucination. "We're gonna generate the whole game" okay nigga why. Using AI to calculate enemy behavior? Ok cool. Using AI to prototype visuals and code? Yeah sure. I'm gonna generate the whole game as an endless video! No nigga that's no longer a video game that's just a video. Hope that helps.
>>725811660It's not a what if, it will happen. Within 5 years AI will replace virtually all human made content. Anime, video games, movies, tv shows, music, porn, even podcasts and streaming. The new meta will be big corpos hoarding IP and then selling subscription services that will allow users to use their IPs to generate content based on them. So for example, if you're subscribed to Nintendo's service, you will be able to generate your dream Pokemon game. Whatever combat type, graphic style, story, genre you want.
>>725811660Photorealism is the death of videogames.
>>725811747You are delusional if you believe AI won't be a powerful creative tool. I hate to sound like a glazer, but AI is the biggest thing since the Internet. It's still in its infancy, but much like the Internet, it will have its inevitable boom.
>>725813123>JUST A TWO MORE WEEKS SAAAAR
>>725813123>It's still in its infancyit's not. none of this was invented 3 years ago.
AI will never produce anything good. I can't believe you made this thread again.
The bubble is popping. They're already begging for government bailouts. You can go back to eating cow shit or whatever it is you do instead of shilling this garbage.
>>725813123Powerful? Yes, it can search for what already exists much faster and more thoroughly than any search engine, let alone a live person operating it.Creative? Absolutely fucking not. AI cannot create, it only copies. Take away its database and it can't do anything. When we say we're made in God's image, we're talking about our ability to create unlike any other creature in the world. AI is just another manmade beast.
I've been having AI discussions in person with a normie friend. He is aggressively anti AI.He says Fallout 4 is the best Fallout game.
>>725815123fallout 4 isnt made by AI so I dont see what your point is here
>>725812770b-b-but then what about us humans?
>>725811660>better coded, have higher quality assets, be cheaper to produceIn 50 years.And no, going from Will Smith eating pizza to the CP you now generate with AI isn't an indication of its advancement to replace all of media in 3 years.
>>725811660>peak pajeet hours>unironic aislop glazingsounds about rightdo the needful
>>725813123>December 5, 2000Based on the timeline it took for the internet to go mainstream, it looks like AI is already missing its window and important growth milestones. Sorry Rajeesh, but it looks like you're gonna go the way of VR instead.
>>725811660>Would you really be some seething, luddite, curmudgeon towards AI even if it means that games could very well in the future be better coded, have higher quality assets, be cheaper to produce and are able to ship way sooner?Of course they will, the alternative would be admitting they were wrong.
I approach AI the same way I approach trannies: I'm only okay with it if it looks good, otherwise I don't want it anywhere near me.
>>725811660>Okay, but what if games made using generative AI end up being way better than the current line of games that have been released in this past decade?OK. Still not paying for them.
>>725815695go back to x nigger... AI is helping accelerate development pipelines>>725815791why would you do this besides jealousy?
every single person whining about AI is just salty about computers outperforming themthis is why most draw trannies hate ai, they spent years drawing porn and now with ai no one has to pay hundreds of dollars for their mediocre commissions when an ai can do much better for free
>>725811931>My problem is that I believe this is a slippery slope "give an inch" kind of situation.You guys didn't give a shit about ANY of the actual slippery slopes that have utterly destroyed the gaming industry over the last 20 fucking years, but NOW you give a shit about the future?Fuck off.AI is the best thing that could happen to the garbage industry you faggots have created by tolerating and excusing everything they have done in the last two decades. I don't give a fuck if modern 'vidya experts' go extinct, nothing of fucking value will have been lost. All they've done since 2005 is make the same shit over and over, but worse, with shittier writing, shittier descisions, shitter gameplay, and anti-consumer mindsets. Oh but there's shiny graphics so you fucking monkeys could give less of a shit.Let them all fucking die out, we'll be better off without them.
>>725815865yeah development in the number of people who are gonna be hitting up welfare lol
>>725813123people hate faggots like you trying to push slop down our throats.fuck off pajeet>will becomeokay talk to me when it's actually good and until then fuck off
>>725815986DEI hires will get laid off and forced to live off EBTs. sounds good to me. you should celebrate AI
GOOD MOOOOOOOOOOORNING SAARS
>>725811660>Okay, but what if games made using generative AI end up being way better than the current line of games that have been released in this past decade?Except that it won'tAI has been around for a while but i still don't see any good ai generated games.
If they end up being far superior then yeah, I'll back down. But we both know they won't be
>>725815881Post hands.
>>725816147"it's been around for 3 years but it doesnt do this yet" libtards don't understand the concept of future tense. it's in development retard, there's trillions of dollars invested in it
>>725816294>more money makes it betterdouble digit iq
>>725811660The problem isn't what AI can or can't do. The problem is the compute required.And any big real time AI application would be completely uneconomical.Right now AI isn't becoming better in the way of "do more with less (compute)". It's "do more with much more".Running a single game instance in real time, at 60fps like that will require an entire server farm and several households worth of electricity. You can not do that at scale. And even less at the cost that people would be willing to pay. $70 for a game? More like $70 for an hour of playtime!AI is running into the EXACT SAME exponential scaling problem in power and compute the blockchain did. And that scaling problem so far can not be overcome and likely won't be unless we completely redesign our entire hardware architecture from scratch. Like this is not a problem that can be fixed with "better software" we are running into fundamental barriers of hardware design now.https://youtu.be/5eqRuVp65eY
>>725816294>it's been around for 3 yearsYou really think this?
>>725816418no it's triple digit. also i think technology investors knkw what they're ralking about when they say AI will have near infinite alpha like elon musk. AI will then solve the energy required to power more AI as well as climate change and make video game creation easy
do pajeets not understand the human mind is what makes art beautiful
>>725811660>muh graphicsyou're brown
>>725816554Everyone except for the most delusional of retards is saying the opposite because they want to deflate the bubble before it destroys their company. Sam altman, bezos, the microsoft pajeet, all have said that this is a bubble and people have unrealistic expectations.
>>725815865>why would you do this besides jealousy?If it didn't cost you anything it shouldn't cost me anything. You want a free infinite money machine, but since you can't pull that particular rabbit out of a hat without setting the hat on fire you've convinced yourself that corporations should have my money in exchange for something that they are hoping to shrink the cost of to a vanishingly small amount. If something is worthless I'm not paying for it.
>>725811660>what if games made using generative AI end up being way better than the current line of games that have been released in this past decadeIt's literally impossible. AI is simply incapable of generating anything better than what's in the dataset used to train it.Video, image, song and text generation are supposed to be the areas where generative AI is the most advanced at and yet it has not once been used to produce ANYTHING that isn't slop.
>>725811980>>725813773>>725815695>725816104>725816651>725816676I love how ludditefags only have one rebuttal against any non-criticism of AI: by accusing you of being a Pajeet.Now if you excuse, I'm going to listen to some AI bangers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhmPqkp_dW8
>>725813123Kill yourself.
>>725815207People with anti AI derangement are normalfags with shit taste
>>725816920just slapping shiny visuals on your game doesn't make it good, dumbass, and it's not like you can tell the AI to not make your game shitpic related, it's (You)
>>725816920>can't even quote correctly embarrassing
>>725816705Nobody of any consequence is saying those things. It's a rational bubble. This technology will solve everything from climate change to nuclear energy to power more AI without straining the grid. I don't trust bandwagonning bystanders with no skin in the game. We trust creators like Bezos and Musk, not random niggas.
>>725816941IT IS A WEAPING AND A MOANING AND A GNASHING OF TEETHIT IS A WEAPING AND A MOANING AND A GNASHING OF TEETH>>725817041I wasn't able to quote all of those replies because it kept saying that my post was detected as "spam."
>>725811660>what if games made using generative AI end up being way better than the current line of games that have been released in this past decade? why worry about something that isn't going to happen?
>>725817064https://fortune.com/2025/10/04/jeff-bezos-amazon-openai-sam-altman-ai-bubble-tech-stocks-investing/
>>725817192That's what I said. A rational bubble. Society will reap the benefits even if some investors lose. You stand with the Jewish investors?
>>725811660>better codedHow is it going to be better coded if all the people with higher skills, the ones who would be capable of telling if the code is good, will get fired to cut costs?>have higher quality assetsQuestionable>be cheaper to produceThey'll still be priced at $80+ so that's completely irrelevant>are able to ship way soonerI have no issue with waiting.
>>725817292ai does not solve everything and there are plenty of retarded ideas that will end up being failures
>>725811660AI is not sentient, you will not find your perfect game.
>>725811660It'll just be slop. Just like the slop we have now but probably worse.Like you said they'll just use AI but still charge $80+ for slop. That's the realistic answer. It's not this magical thing that's somehow going to make video games from thin air. It just produces slop from the slop it's fed.
>>725811660>>725813123yeah I'm sure generating sora videos of Sneakers O'Toole is definitely on par with the invention of advanced information communication and car travel you fucking dipshit
>>725816920AIpiggie can't stop consuming slop? Color me surprised.AI is not a replacement for real talent, a game made with AI will be indistinguishable from the bottom of the barrel unity/UE5 asset flips that fill the bottom of the steam indie dumpster
>>725817297>How is it going to be better coded if all the people with higher skills, the ones who would be capable of telling if the code is good, will get fired to cut costs?Most likely what will happen is that they won't fire every single employee, they'll fire the most disposable ones. If you have a team of 10, and you can provide tools for for two of the best to do the job of 5+ people each, they'll keep those two people and fire the rest. You're essentially getting rid of the code monkeys.>QuestionableEven if you say that, what's not questionable is the ease of access of creating assets that would before require expensive tools and production to make or using licensed assets. For example, motion capture is one of the most expensive, time consuming and tedious creative process in video game production. If AI can provide high quality animations without all of that shit, then why not utilize it? There's also 3D scanning, textures, etc.>They'll still be priced at $80+ so that's completely irrelevantI explicitly stated this in the OP.>I have no issue with waiting.You don't have a problem waiting 7, 8, 10 years for video games? Because this shit is becoming the norm.
>>725812770>Within 5 years AI will replace virtually all human made content.You say it like we should be excited for the low quality garbage people will make with AI.
>>725817376WRONG. Tranny artists are already getting fired, healing the world and potentially even gaming
What if the Radio was tuned to RockStar*? Who needs to pay these clowns when whe have soundcloud Radio from Rockstar* Music.
>>725817917I'm just repeating what bezos said. Are you telling me that you disagree with jeff bezos?
>>725818097It's only an investment failiure in that most companies will die. But the promise of AI remains true and Bezos knows this. It remains the best tool to solve many of the world's problems and maintain American supremacy
>>725816920brownest post in the entire thread
>>725817664>Most likely what will happen is that they won't fire every single employeeUntil AI tools that do their jobs show up. Then they'll be disposable as well. How well the AI performs is irrelevant because corpos will just jump on it.>ease of access of creating assets that would before require expensive tools and production to make or using licensed assetsEase of access has never helped with good end products.>If AI can provide high quality animations without all of that shit, then why not utilize it?and who says it'll be high quality? The people making it with AI? Nobody who uses AI as a creative tool cares about quality.>I explicitly stated this in the OPExactly. You will get no increase in quality and you'll have to pay more.>You don't have a problem waiting 7, 8, 10 years for video games?No.
>>725818323Did you actually read the articles?
I don't categorically reject the technology. I reject what it's currently used for, I reject the possibility it'll be used to replace human artists, I categorically reject the fact that the chatbot types are programmed to pretend to be human.I'm absolutely in favour of using it to save time and effort of tedious work. I like automatization for the sake of efficiency. I'm all for that. But I'm against using it as a substitute for actual creative labour.And then there's the matter of its environmental impact which is a whole different can if worms.
What I was hopeful and still am hopeful towards with AI, is that it will make the production processes a lot easier for the people working on whatever. Animation? AI can take over shit like making an animation loop for motions after you have the character modeled and rigged up. Maybe even rigging could be automated? Little things like that which would let people work faster and not have to use as much time on small things to make the whole. However right now people are more interested in the automation of the entire process, and thanks to the miracles of hypetrain and salesmen we have to reap the meager benefits that the current "AI" is able to push out. Will it get better eventually to be indistinguishable from human work? Maybe. There are a lot of hurdles to overcome until then though, but I am unsure if either investors or people are willing to sit and wait until then because of a lot of problems like the processing power required that already was pointed out here.
>>725812770>No guys trust me it'll be amazing and super cool and awesome trust me this is the future.I've seen what this "new content meta" looks like since my nephews watch YT shorts. NO, it'll somehow be even worse than the jeet slop we already get. FUCK YOUR DREAM WORLD THAT SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THOSE NFT SCAMS! FUCK IT TO HELL!
>>725811660Why dont you just make a video game?
>>725816294>there's trillions of dollars invested in itAnon, I don't hate AI but come on. This is the same rhetoric they were saying about NFTs and NFT games. Remember how that went? That's right, it didn't. It died like a bitch.
>>725813963Ai is already producing much more good than humans, specifically degenerates like you. The anti ai crowd are always low iq contrarian on 4chan, trannies, handicapped people and degenerate artists.You hated internet, you hated color movie, you hated audio movies, you hated motion pictures, you hated photography, you hated the printing press. You were subhuman idiots then and you are subhumans now.
Like with any major technological development, AI has the power to be used for good and for bad. Obviously it can, will, and already is being used to create worthless slop, but I also believe it has the potential to allow people to pursue their creative ideas at an unprecedented level, and will hopefully bridge the gap between regular artists and people in the "industry" who are funded to the tune of billions to pursue their specific ideas. With this creative freedom comes responsibility of course, and without an eye for quality it will inevitably only create garbage, but I see an almost limitless potential for artists and creatives to express themselves if this continues to develop the way it has. I think the people blindly decrying this technology without any sort of nuance are going to be looked back on the same way as every person who's ever opposed new and emerging technologies throughout history. They're getting left behind, for better or for worse.I curse Vishnu and denounce the Talmud.
>>725818885No it's amazing. The entire content pipeline is being automated and fed to people. Soon your nephew will learn math and science from AI tung tung tung sahur with AI phonk and an AI script, replacing the current corrupt education system that favors girls and DEI
>>725816651I've actually seen an interesting comment(don't remember from where) about AI and how people see it.It went like this;>You have two different types of creatives. >Those that see the process as a key part of creation.>Those that see the end result as the only key part of creation.>Those that value process don't care much for AI because it's doing the part that actually matters, the creation process as a whole.>Those that only value the end result love AI because they can "create" whatever they want.Narcissists, of which jeets are notorious for being, all fall under the latter group of only caring about the end result. There's no passion, no love, just an end result and demand for applause and adoration. They don't understand beauty because to them the beauty isn't important, making money and becoming famous is. Those that don't value the creative process are those shilling AI heavily and talking about how EVERYONE WILL BE REPLACED AND AI WILL BE THE ONLY THING SO YOU CAN'T SAY I DON'T HAVE ANY CREATIVE ABILITY YOU WILL BOW DOWN AND PRAISE ME FOR WHAT I MADE.Basically, those that praise AI to such an extent are glorified idea guys who need someone else to make their ideas a reality. But now they won't have to deal with other people. Expect lawsuits and copyright disputes to spike though since they'll all be suing each other over their supposed super original ideas that are so generic Isekai Harem LNs are more unique.
>>725817664>they'll fire the most disposable ones. If you have a team of 10, and you can provide tools for for two of the best to do the job of 5+ people each, they'll keep those two people and fire the restAnon, that alone is bullshit and you know it. They won't keep the best, they'll keep the cheapest and the problem will only proliferate since it'll be jeets that can't even speak English, let alone code. Imagine every game being vibe-coded by ESL retarded narcissists.
>>725819159Anon, have you seen any of this shit? It's even MORE DEI and girl favoring slop.I've seen mothers admitting to being whores but it's ok because the father was abusive. I've seen RACISM BAD shit. I've seen more and more modern DEI faggotry in this AI slop than not. It's not "based" or "replacing corruption" it's simply making the corruption more palatable. That's it.
>>725811660with how gpu manufacturers are going ""forward"" real time video output wil never be viable for consumerand by never I dont mean more than 10 years I mean literally never
>>725812770one thing AI will never replace is live bands because its not real.
>>725819684I saw AI black women crying about EBT cards, trannies wrapping rope around their necks, indian toilet poo launchers on Insta Reels, and they all get millions of views which kids watch. It can be based.Sure it's just a tool, but now you don't have to be a professional to do stuff. So industries dominated by libtard professionals are fucked, chuds are in control now.
>>725811660>what ifNeed a proof of concept. Ai has been around for years now and has yet to produce a single masterpiece that everyone lauds as fantastic.
>>725811660they won'tsorry you've been successfully marketed to
>>725811660>Okay, but what ifIt won't. If games end up being made like this I'll simply play old games, of which there is already enough good ones to last me a lifetime.
It's funny that we are on the verge of AI era but the quality of games itself have gone to shit.
>>725811660>Would you really be some seething, luddite,The Luddites were completely right and they were murdered because of it. Anyone who shits on them has fallen for a psyop.
>>725815971>You guys didn't give a shit about ANY of the actual slippery slopes that have utterly destroyed the gaming industry over the last 20 fucking yearsFirst, why are you assuming this? Two, what are some of the "actual" slippery slopes that you have in mind?
>>725821182AI will continue that trend.
>>725816464I think we're talking about AI just making the game, but then its normal software for retail.
>>725821290And you only use hand woven fabrics because obviously the Luddites were right and mass production that results in abundance is le bad?
LLMs are not AI and every time you refer to LLMs as AI you are falling for the biggest grift of the 21st century.
>>725814904>When we say we're made in God's image, we're talking about our ability to createWho's "we"? Nobody does this.>unlike any other creature in the worldwhat are you doing
>>725812330this retard actually believes games will be ai prompts. fucking idiot
>>725821481Sorry that they're all being advertised as AI.
I swear AI niggers have like max 20 stock posts they copy paste from on every one of these fucking threads with little to no variation. You'd think they could generate more at least.
why is kiryu kazuma driving a motorcycle in miami?
>>725816294>3 yearsMachine learning hs been a thing since the 50s.
>>725821463I would if I could because these 20 dollar chinkshit shirts suck and only last a few months>and mass production that results in abundance is le bad?It is literally ruining the planet and resulted in planned obsolescence so yes it is.
>>725821387It cant do that either. The only "games" AI can "make" is the stuff whos code is fully freely uploaded onto github and other shit you can easily googleIf you tell it to provide a working .exe to run a game it cant and it never willAnd those "games" you've seen people upload on twitter are all 8 second videos or they edit together clips of those 8 seconds together and its almost always 15 seconds flat. Its also funny when you can see the split at 8 seconds"AI games" are pushed by people who do not know how video games work and have never played them in their life
>>725821752Anon you have to understand, the other 500 they generated were incomprehensible gibberish or made no sense.
>>725821870Soon I'll be able to ask it to make a game given some paramaters and it'll output bug free code that can be built. Then it'll just be a matter of having great game ideas
>>725811660>Okay, but what if games made using generative AI end up being way better than the current line of games that have been released in this past decade?Do you understand how ai works? You can't create icecream, when you've got a storage full of shit.
>>725811931>Take Judge Dredd, for example. Horrible movie.I want to stab you.
>>725811660Good morning, saar.
>>725822015>Soon I'll be able to "play" a game where I sit and watch a 8 second clip before moving onto another 8 second clip
>>725813123>ai will help us consoom moar!!!!!
>>725811660AI is for brown people, sir.
>>725816294>there's trillions of dollars invested in itThere's 2 companies committing fraud by trading money back and forth under backroom deals to cover each others losses creating rom fake growth to inflate their stock values without actually producing any value
>>725812009What's unhealthy is being a fedora tipper.AI is going to change the world (for the better!)
if AI is so inevitable and so powerful and impressive why do you need everyone to be on board with it. why always with the hard sell. I bet all you AI people went out and immediately got the vax as well lmao
>>725811660I want ai to take over the world so all the pajeets get fucked and unemployed
>>725811660i really really don't give a shit about ai taking jobs away and everything if it's good or even better than manmade stuffcurrently it isn't for original assetsmaybe some troubleshooting, procedural generation or something, but not everything
>>725822781It's like a near majority of the American economy's growth since 2022. The economy would be contracting without it so your claim is impossible, it'a not fraud
AI games is going to happen no matter how much the troons cope and seethe about it. One of the biggest problems with AAA gamedev nowadays is the overinflated production costs, and AI solves exactly that.
>>725823132>and AI solves exactly thatlollmaoGet real, trAInny.
>>725811660You will always be a jeet
>Let's give these talentless brownoids a mean to partake in the creative industry despite them lacking the craftmanship or necessary traits to make the industry work and respected.
>>725823132>and AI solves exactly that.No, no it doesn't, because they'll hire jeets to do the checking thinking they won't need real workers, so all your code will be even worse than the modern jeet vibe coding because if something fucks up they won't know why it fucked up and just force a solution that won't be compatible with various other functions.We're talking YandereDev tier coding if not worse.
In ~2 years someone with basic competency of prompts will be able to generate a complete Gen 4/5 tier gameI'm going to make Chrono Trigger 2 in a SNES style
>>725823250>>725823593nta but what do you think will happen when you can generate game ready 3D assets the same way you can generate pictures?
>>725823653They'll be Saarfield tier.
>>725823686>it'll be badso you're going with the "Ai can't do hands" or the "AI will never ever make videos" route? you're boring.concession accepted I guess.
>>725811660The tone of this post is so seething it's embarrassing even for a bait.AI can currently only ape what people can do and it does so fast, but it does it poorly.
>>725823742The AI has to be led and told to make something niceSome jeet working minumum wage is not going to put in the effort to make it make something good
>>725823653Forgot to mention that it'll STILL need fixing since a hand in a drawing can be fixed up with in painting. A mangled hand or limb on a 3D model is far more complex as you'll need to correct EVERY SINGLE VERTEX that's fucked up meaning either a person or AI will need to fix those points. And this will likely also require adjusting the mesh's geometry to a pretty extensive scale since one fucked limb could mean needing to redo the entire arm or leg which will also fuck with the body. What you're asking for is incredibly complex and mistakes will STILL be costly to fix.
>>725823851>>725823852you hire one artist and he presses a button and it turns his art into a 3D model that just workswhat happens?
>>725823851Most Indians I've seen using AI have been able to make stuff way more imaginative and better looking than white people
>>725823742No, I'm saying it'll be unoptimized trash even if the shape comes out right. By Saarfield tier I mean a box will be over 100k tris. A sandwich will be over 130k tris. It'll be able to do it but it won't be "game ready" you'll have to modify the shit out of it.
>>725823930>but it won't be "game ready"literally what I said you were doing>AI can't do hands>AI will never do videosnow you're saying >AI models will never be game ready like a retard that never learns
>>725823914>that just worksExcept it doesnt. I cant even imagine what abominations ai will shit out in 3d form . Oh wait I can
>>725823914>that just worksAnon, seriously, this is just getting embarrassing now. You don't even understand how 3D modelling works. Go open up Blender and make a simple humanoid character if you think it's so easy. ANYTHING the AI fucks up will be incredibly costly to adjust in terms of time and effort. Let alone the absurd poly counts. You'd basically be proliferating the current issues with AAA.AI has a lot of potential and power but it's also not capable of a lot of very important intricacies. It won't understand mesh deformation when it comes time to rig so your elbows, knees and fingers won't bend right and you won't understand why. Or it'll model the legs and waist as flat when it should be angled(you should know what this means if you're talking about 3D modelling like it's magic).
>>725824106>>725824034no point in me trying to replying as if you're human, you never learn
Just invest a few more billion dollars and AI will be good saars, trust me.We definitely aren't in a bubble don't worry.
I can't get over this India-tier astonishment over generative media. And it's all propped up by video cards. this is grim.
>>725815723I'm still not interested in soulless AI slop even if it has high quality assets and runs well. There is no being wrong about that.
>>725824165I was going to say you grifters never learn either but apparently you do since you figured out your NFT grift where you were doing the exact same thing didn't work
>>725824000Because it's true. Think about how complicated low poly is in terms of loops. You need to be incredibly smart when it comes to setting those up, the EXACT POSITION being off by even 1mm can be drastic in how it deforms. PEOPLE already struggle with something so simple and you're claiming a robot will be able to do it right. The comparison to Saarfield is apt. AI is not competent enough to do the rigorous complexities of lower poly 3D modelling. It will 100% be able to do AAA tier hundred thousand poly meshes but high quality low poly will be too challenging for it to do. Same with textures. It will 100% get hyper realistic art styles but anything that has to fit within a 512x512 or 256x256 is going to be an abomination and that's ASSUMING it'll be able to UV unwrap and set up a texture sheet properly. There's a LOT that AI isn't ready for and the complexities of it are likely to be overlooked as it'll be made like UE5 is. To cater to AAA retards and not those that want to make something unique. Loops in general are too complex for most HUMANS to get right, AI won't be much better, god help you it fucks up a cut and joins loops the wrong way since that too will fuck your deformation.
Why do jeets love AI slop so much?
>>725824352the ironic thing is that NFTs might be the only way to put some kind of DRM or metadata on original digital content.
>>725811660>Okay, but what if games made using generative AI end up being way better than the current line of games that have been released in this past decade?Given that most games in the last TWO decades have been complete shit, this isn't the big flex you think it is. Yes, I think that Ai will produce the same crap we've been seeing for the last decade. I fully expect it to just produce the same generic, repetitive, empty, pointless experiences you've been seeing in modern games. Do a quest, turn it is, do the same thing but in a slightly different location 1000x times, complete game.But this isn't the big win you think it will be.And much like games of the last two decades, I'll be treating Ai products much like I've been treating everything else: Ignoring it and just playing good video games. And unfortunately for you, it looks like most people are sick and tired of Unisoft Tower Climber 17 and Call of Duty 49 and want something different, so making them even MORE generic is just going to drive them away from those games even harder. Can't wait to see that finally happen.
>>725819104The fact that all you can do is call people libtards, trannies and luddites shows that you don't actually have confidence in your position.
>>725819367This is tremendously well put and I will absorb it into my brain
>>725824443Dont mind me just right clicking the image that you own
>>725824494but if it's producing the same quality as what people can make. why would we play the AI slop version?
>>725824428Refer to >>725819367>tl;dr - jeets don't value the creative process, only the end result. They want fame and adoration but don't want to work hard to attain it.
>>725819995>now chuds can dominate without ever learning any skills!For fuck's sake man, have more pride in yourself. If you're jealous of artists, learn to be one.
>>725824640>you don't understand, we live games taking 10 years because jeets are shit at their jobs>we don't want AI cutting the dev time down by 90% because muh heckin effort
>>725821463>mass production that results in abundance is le bad?What's good about it?
>>725823132The biggest problem with AAA games is that the vast majority are low quality garbage and are not worth a single minute of my time. They are low quality in every single facet. The game design is poor, the gameplay is bad, they're poorly made, unstable and have poor performance, even the epin graphics they chase relentlessly end up as no more than a polished turd, ruined by upscaling, blur, ghosting, temporal artifacts, smearing and just straight-up bad art decisions which make the games ugly no matter what engine they throw at the stupid thing. If you think lowering the quality even more is somehow going to solve this, you're retarded.
>>725821752To embrace AI to that degree is to embrace the laziness and mindlessness in oneself, so that's fit.It's a shame, because some genuine arguments could be made in favor of AI, but all the posts made by AI fags here are blisteringly retarded. It's just people who want computers to do everything for them so they can sink further into brainlessness than they have already.
>>725821290> fallen for a psyop.Man, how ironic. I genuinely feel bad for you but I hope you go full retard and attack some data center or something funny. Good luck bro.
There hasn't been a gen AI game.Every single instance of the gaming promise this tech has is just videos and pictures, not a single video game.Until there's a playable thing, good or bad it's just proof of concept, then it's all just speculation and snake oil.
>>725824857that's fitting*
>>7258248161. AI is higher quality.2. More games being released = more fun. If you deny this you are fucking retarded. No one really cares about graphics. clearly. You're one of them since AAAs objectively have higher quality assets than anything else.
>>725823742brown people really look at this incoherent mess of broken perspectives and unironically think its good
>>725824549You shouldn't be playing either version, play good video games instead.
>>725824898Why lie? You've been able to vibe code and make the art for "AI games" for years. And there are those playable 'video' games from Microsoft and others.
>>725824682>we don't want AI cutting the dev time down by 90% because muh heckin effortAnon, please, stop being a retarded shill and think. OUTSOURCING TO THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES WAS MEANT TO CUT DEV TIME DOWN IT DID THE OPPOSITE.Do you really think that THIS TIME the solution will cut dev time down? It won't. The competent people you think will be hired to do the AI work and some "light fixing" will NOT be the one's kept. It'll be a few random jeets because they're cheaper and have more "experience" than the competent people. So nothing will change, because the underlying factor causing problems won't be removed from the equation. In fact the only thing left will BE that factor.
>>725825025>OUTSOURCING TO THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES WAS MEANT TO CUT DEV TIME DOWNSource on this, spergy?>Do you really think that THIS TIME the solution will cut dev time down?Why are you arguing AI can't generate art faster than humans can? I'm not even reading the rest, you're clearly mentally deficient.
>>725811660>I'm an unemployable loser with no skills.Use fewer words next time.
>>725825083You certainly wouldn't be outsourcing your biggest IPs to brownskins in SEA or india if you wanted quality. Just look at how blizzard and warcraft 3 turned out
>>725825174The outsource to cut costs.
ai bros are crummy faggots
>>725824857This, AI as a concept and what it's able to do is fascinating, it's fun to fuck around with but for proper work and what it can be used for it's horribly under utilized(not helped by jeets and the like causing a fuck ton of issues in relation to copyright which only served to stunt its potential for corporate use which in turn would've STOPPED a lot of the aggression against AI)Using it for inbetweens in animation, using it for simple backgrounds and setting details, even something like designing mob NPCs so they can have some uniqueness to them compared to other games.It's potential is there but so many are using it to try and skip the process entirely not realizing that's where most of the meaning and depth comes from.
>>725825337you're a likeable person lol
>>725819104>Ai is already producing much more good than humansand yet every time I ask what exactly has AI produced noone can give me an answer, almost like it's just another grifting scheme that rich people use to scam money out of people
>>725825083>Source on thisAnon, are you really this retarded? Why would you outsource work to third world shitholes instead of hiring more competent people? They want it done quick and dirty so they can get the game out sooner. What they failed to understand was the third worlders were fucking retarded and cleaning up their quick and dirty work was even more costly. THIS is part of why games take so long to make. >Inb4 but why clean it up or check the workBecause when they don't you end up in Bungie's position where they're under fire for art theft because the jeets they hired just stole some shit off artstation and said "good enough" and stealing a piece of art with loss in it is really bad for a major corporation.
everytime i ask chatgpt a simple question and it can't answer it despite googling it would answer it in a few seconds, i start to fear more for our future
>>725825194>to cut costsAnd how would that happen if they now take 3-4x longer to finish the game. You're now either at zero or in the red since even if you're main staff aren't doing as much you still need to pay them a salary. AAA dev teams needing to pay anywhere from 4-8 years of salaries MORE is incredibly costly.
>>725811747>What if this magically *didn't* suck???Some of you really don't understand that a lot of fields can't begin in a functional state, and won't get good without time and investment. Take humanoid robotics for example.>14 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRbvNL1PHKg>Nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I44_zbEwz_wPeople memed on these things for years when Honda first turned up with Asimo in the 90s, and now they perform acrobatics 99.99% of the population can't do.
>>725826047and yet these robots aren't used anywhere to do anything, almost like they're completely useless/not economically viable outside of demonstrations
>>725826095why are you literally retarded? how did you miss his point?
>>725826095>Literally doing the meme right nowhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Machines_Which_Do_Not_Fly
>>725826151what point, your chatbot will never do anything of value, no matter how many billions you sink into it, it will only be used by surveillance states to turn you into a goyslave and have you pay for your own torture>>725826193this isn't even in the same ballpark with something as simple as an airplane
>>725826330You are African aren't you?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kb0QDd4M3c
>>725826095The moment these things have adequate spatial awareness between vision and hands and the speed to match an average person, they're replacing everybody in big corporate warehouses. You will never have a human working in an Amazon warehouse ever again, probably by 2050 at this rate.>>725826330>Airplane>SimpleThe concept of flight is simple, a 747 isn't. It's incredibly complex.
>>725826384>will never have a human working in an Amazon warehouse ever again, probably by 2050 at this rate.Amazon's official plan is to have this happen by 2030 anon.
>>725826384>The moment these things have adequate spatial awareness between vision and hands and the speed to match an average person, they're replacing everybody in big corporate warehouses.Right, because companies are totally going to sink millions each month into the cost and maintenance of robots instead of paying pablo 5 dollars an hour
>>725826497>Works 24/7 with no breaks beyond occasional maintenance, which is also planned to be fully automated, no sick days, never tires, never gets bored, never mentally snaps from the tedious nature, and is sold to the company for $1000 per month per unit via a leasing contract that also covers any maintenance that requires humans to intervene>You on the other hand expect minimum $2500 for 45 hours over 4 weeks
>>725826661A human is capable of original thought and creation.AI, currently, isn't.
>>725826714Original thought and creation isn't required in a warehouse outside of the very rare situation something goes catastrophically wrong, like a Pajeet who can't reverse his trailer onto the door and hits someone's car.t. warehouse worker.
>>725826661>occasional maintenance, which is also planned to be fully automatedyou clearly haven't worked in engineering, so you really shouldn't be making retarded claims like this
>>725826714Human, not pajeet, chinkoid, nigger.
>>725826497>millionslolyou realize billions have gone into it right
>>725826803There are already robots being designed and developed to repair themselves. You're mocking something already being developed and is a real idea.
>>725813123>AI is the biggest thing since the Internetthe current form of "AI" isn't anything novelall of the high ticket applications are very cheap in compute.
>>725826948>being able to create art and then videos and then music and voice in seconds isn't novel
>>725811660I have zero faith that we won't start right from the enshittification phase. Vidya companies far and wide are salivating at the thought of tossing everyone out and churning out yearly bowls of minimum viable product slop, and AI is perfect for that, while reducing fucking nothing in customer-facing pricing.Why should I subsidize their larger profit margin?
>>725826872>source :
>>725827149Here's a robot in the prototype phase of being able to replace its own batteries. Yes, I am aware they had to swap out the hands for it to be able to do this, hence why I'm saying it's in the early stages.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHP1WGlw5WkThis is the most basic first stepping stone to self-maintenance. If you don't think robots aren't going to be designed to swap out worn down or damaged parts over the next couple of decades, you've got some weird brain block that prevents advancement over time from forming in your head.
>>725811660>You faggots act as if fucking Indians aren't already being used for cheap, exploitable labor in game development right now.Guess what the AI will train itself off of, dumbass
>>725827264Really, this is your argument? Yes, it's easy to create a machine that uses a suction cup to pull out a battery and put a new one in. Now create a machine that can completely dismantle the robot made from thousands of pieces down to the smallest nuts and bolts, dismantle the electronics, etc... replace them completely and reassemble it, you'll be an overnight trillionaire if you do. But wait, it gets better, the complexity needed to achieve such a task would give your repair-o-station so many failure points that it would need a separate repair/maintenance team/machine just for itself. You see where I'm going with this? You simply can't completely replace humans, the capability of performing a variety of complex tasks is so perfectly engineered that at some point whatever machine you manage to come up with simply isn't worth it when some dude could just come along and do it for 50 bucks.
>>725827524Yes, this is all shit that will happen over time because it needs to be figured out over thousands of sessions of trial and error. You're not disproving that any of this won't happen, you're simply arguing from the narrow view that "shit doesn't work now, so will never work." Basically, see >>725826193
>>725811660still holding out a sliver of hope for vidya as an artform. art as in communication/expression. the robot isn't expressing shit.
All this shit reminds me of the Jetsons and the one push of a button syndrome to do everything
>>725826803at one point you really have to wonder if these prjeets are actual paid shills sent here to do damage control
>>725811660My take is that AI is gonna completely absorb the lowest common denominator market, leading to a golden age of auteur kino. Only the greatest artists will survive. Slopmakers are the ones being automated.
>>725829478We're going to see some insane games using AI coming out of Korea and China.
You know how zoomers grew up with smartphones and 24/7 access to internet and now they cant live without it?I think this is gonna happen to gen alpha but with AIs. Their generation will be completely dependent on AI companions to do anything. They wont be able to handle any problems on their own and will become the dumbest generation we've seen in ages. We are a few decades away from entering a cyberpunk dystopia, but without the cool parts of cyberpunk like mechas and robot arms that can turn into machine guns
future's looking bright
>>725829917Wrong way around. I want the pussy to look and feel real, while the head can just be a blank robot face.
>>725811660It won't happen. People thought CGI would be great for movies and anime, that the early jank was just a symptom of early technology and that in a few years everything would be CG. It didn't happen because CGI was just an easy replacement for better mediums, like practical and traditional 2D, and even when someone put effort in they always made something that looked soulless in comparison. AI is the same. The tech will improve but it'll only be used for mass produced trash.
>>725830345AI isn't the same because it can do better than humans ever did especially in terms of CGI.
>>725826095>and yet these cars aren't used anywhere to do anything, almost like they're completely useless/not economically viable outside of demonstrations
the anti-ai seething is always a fun watch
>n-no! I'm not an annoying autist! i-it's all your derangement syndrome!
>>725831482you're clearly the annoying autist, you're crying about pictures
>>725829917>shitty matte lines>jittering everywhere>i-it'll g-get better one day I swear!lmao pure fucking slop
AI is fun but i'm not paying 60 bucks for a game that has terrible AI art. Ubisoft can fuck right off>>725817993
>>725831624mad
>>725823742Why does the room keep changing?
imagine if billionaires spent money on something useful instead of inflating the gpu prices
>>725832068I don't see how improving their nation is as beneficial as creating a network that can better control people.
>>725816920Literally the first post in that list has two lines and the first one is a valid rebuttal you disingenuous asshat.
>>725831624 >it's bad now >and that means it's always going to be this bad
Computers have always been predicted to end up as AI. I don't understand what the issue is? What other direction should computers go in?
>>725831669Trueee I only pay for games with good human art, oh wait those don't exist. Turns out video game tranny artists are terrible at their job.
>>725832068Imagine if the billions of dollars people have thrown away on AI was put towards making genetically engineered cat girls instead
>>725811660is that the yakuza guy riding that scooter in the bottom image
>>725832542They wanted it to end up as AI but instead of replacing tranny artists it should replace white cis men.
>>725832542PAY ARTISTSHIREVOICE ACTORS
>>725811660>Okay, but what if [made up scenario]?if that ever happens i'll consider answering, but for now AI is only good at one thing: generating blacked slop for me to goon to
i dont want games to look like real lifeyou dont either. you just think you do
>>725832542Because it sucks. The technology advances but the output is still really soulless.
>>725813123>but AI is the biggest thing since the InternetIt's also killing it, filling it with even more slop and being used to make a profile out of you.>b-but all those things were already happening!Neat, then just keep adding more fuel to the fire and keep claiming it's somehow revolutionary in how fast it can create slop.
>>725811660Because people nowadays don't really see tech as tech. They see it as another "personality" trait and will defend that they like until they die on that same every hill, simple as. People can't cope with the fact that AI is already a massive game changer and might as well be the norm going forward.
>>725822602>argentina 32%maybe argentina isnt white.
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>>725811660>what if AI games betterholy shit you are actually coping this hard lmaoAI slop will NEVER have soul, it’s just regurgitated pixel vomit trained on stolen art from real devs who actually poured blood sweat and tears into their craft. You think some soulless algorithm is gonna replace the autism-fueled 3am crunch sessions that birthed kino like Bloodborne? Get fucking real retard.>higher quality assets>cheaper to produce>ship sooneryeah because nothing says “quality” like procedurally generated NPC faces that look like melted play-doh and dialogue written by a Markov chain on bath salts. You’ll get your $80 buggy mess with 500 hours of filler quests that all feel the same because the AI can’t into emergent gameplay or actual creativity. It’s just gonna be Ubisoft open world #483957 but with even less heart.>muh pajeets already in creditsat least rajesh has a family to feed and can actually debug the spaghetti code when it shits itself. Your precious AI is just gonna hallucinate broken quests and call it a feature. “Oops the dragon clipped through the mountain and softlocked your save, just reload bro :)” Fuck off.>greedy publishersOH NOW YOU CARE ABOUT PRICE??? You’ll still pre-order the deluxe edition with the NFT dragon dildo skin because “durr AI revolution”. Publishers will pocket the savings and lay off the last 3 human artists while you consoom the slop and clap like a trained seal.Keep coping AI tranny, real gamers will be playing actual passion projects while you jerk off to your procedurally generated waifu #938475 who calls you senpai in 47 different languages but can’t hold a conversation for shit. Touch grass.
>>725833569>more stuff to see on the internet = it dieslollmao
>>725813123stop comparing the internet which was amazing proper tech, with the pile of trash which is AI whose biggest achievement was delivering the internet's killing blow as it was slowly dying
>>725813886Okay? And with how fast it is going we are still on the early stages of it. Look at how it took for computers to get where they are. AI isn't going to peak for another 20 years minimum
>>725833703The bubble will pop long before it has the chance
>>725833690he mad
>>725833757>AI bubble will poplmao keep telling yourself that, doomerfag. The bubble’s been “popping” since ChatGPT dropped and yet here we are with every AAA studio already slurping up Midjourney slop for concept art and voice synth for side NPCs. You think Activision-Blizzard is gonna suddenly grow a conscience and go “aw shucks, better hire 200 artists again”? They’re already firing them by the busload.Your cope is that it’ll crash like crypto or NFTs but newsflash retard: this shit **works**. It’s not magic, it’s not perfect, but it’s already cutting dev time in half for asset pipelines and QA. Indies are using it to punch above their weight and you’re seething because your $300k art degree is now worth less than a $12/month Stable Diffusion sub.>long before it has the chanceIt already HAS the chance, dipshit. Look at any Unity/Unreal marketplace plugin. Look at how fast Roblox ugc is flooding with AI garbage. The floodgates are open and your “soul” argument is just nostalgia bait for gatekeeping virgins who can’t adapt.Keep coping that the bubble will save you. Meanwhile real devs are learning to prompt engineer and ship games in 6 months instead of 6 years. You’ll be the one left behind raging on /v/ while the rest of us play actually innovative shit that doesn’t need a $200M budget to exist.NGMI.
