Have you taken the mint yet /v/? Your Windows PC looks stinky.
Linux is for work. Windows 7 is for games.
>>725820740i want to switch to linux but using the actual good nvidia features like dldsr seems impossible because the nvidia control panel for linux is so basic and limited
I went with Debian instead.
>>725820740Mint is great for grandmas and normies who only use the pc to browse the net, but please don't recommend it for gaming, there are far better alternatives for that, like cachyos
>>725820802Windows 7 is for never maturing past 2009.
>>725820740Go back >>>/g/eet
>>725820740>debian basedew no.
>>725820740Mint is shit for gaming if you have 2 monitors.Right now I'm using Bazzite, but EndeavorOS is also good distro.
>>725820740No. What about you OP? did you take your estrogen pills today?
CachyOS
Gnu is dogshitUse alpine
>>725820740It is the Gentoo life for me.
>>725822875ChadyOS
how well does modded minecraft work on there?
do linux users just namedrop distros and paste neofetch screenshots or do they ever discuss anything useful
>>725823364proton just werks so what would they need to discuss?
>>725824393Wine doesn't just work. Stop lying linjeet.
>>725821886All I can see any time someone posts the Arch logo.
>>725824495>Wine doesn't just workwell it is based off windows, a company that replaced all its good talent with street shitters and has a jeet for a CEO that relies on AI code for its OS. wine runs windows software better than windows so it not only just werks, it werks better.
>>725824781Yeah it's window's fault that the troonix windows emulator sucks dick. It's also windows's fault that troonix can't into static binaries some every native troonix program rots.
>>725824849sounds like you had a skill issue. wine just werks everytime i used it. meanwhile every update windows breaks something for someone.
>>725821772>2009I used XP in 2009No issues with new games whatsoever
>>725824979End you fucking life you dumb fucking linjeet nigger. BSD has suffixes, but troonix can't. It's not windows's fault that it was designed to be futureproof, you faggot. It's not windows's fault that linjeets just cope with emulating windows binaries.>ibn4 the genloo slots copeFuck you nigger and fuck your troonix humiliation ritual made by jews and trannies.
>>725824849yes it is window's fault that linux is a thing
Garbage primarily used by jeets in india as a desktop. Break some more hardware support with pozilla's rust and pruning drivers for no reason. Fuck you, fuck your suse, canonical and most importantly red hat tech support that only exists because trannies can't stop themselves from breaking ABIs. Imagine paying some red hat faggot to break glibc every two months. I'd rather fucking kill myself. Fucking tranny kike garbage ecosystem maintained by delusional faggots. Go back to >>>/g/, you disgusting niggers.
>>725825074>End you fucking lifeesl>gets angry at being called out for not being able to run wine/protonshit eating jeet detected learn how a computer works before shit talking a piece of software. since your brown head is incapable of this, please leave this conversation.
I installed gentoo. Linux and gaming just werks. Only kernel level anticheat games don't work. Also can't use gamepass or Microsoft store games.
>>725825439You're shilling wine of all thing, you're not human /g/eet.
>>725825487NTA, but how so you shill something that is free?
>>725825487better to shill wine than windows. wine at least just werks
I shudder at the thought of having to join the Loonix community when my LTSC finally stops updating years from now.
>>725825526Having a "stealth" tranny tech support general every day with your groomcord sisters?>>725825531Wine doesn't fucking work, linjeet. Imagine wanting to be Unix and then in the end pretending to be windows. Such is life of troonix, the failed tranny ecosystem. Troonix will never be windows btw.
>>725825679Chud pls
>just compile librsvg with pozilla's rustranny compiler that can't even cache properlyFuck troonix. Fuck troonix tranny developers wasting your time for no reason other than to humiliate you.
>>725825679>Wine doesn't fucking workfor you, maybe. because you cant get anything to work. it just werks for literally everyone else. and they dont have to thank vishnu for not bricking their computer every update.
>>725825889Fuck off bunkertranny linjeet.>>725825939>it just werks for literally everyone else.The most delusional and dishonest linjeet ITT. Windows just works by the way, that's why you always try to emulate. That's all you faggots do besides using trannyfox anyways.
>>725825891>muh nerd shit that nobody gives a fuck doesn't workJust don't do nerd shit, retard.
>>725824585i haven't used x11 since 2017. arch btw.
>>725826118Your jeetdroid can open up your memory leaking trannyfox too. Keep coping by trying to emulate windows binaries and failing miserably.
>>725826042you seem unreasonably angry that someone else is running software that you don't have the skill to run. maybe you haven't eaten any curry or cowshit? its ok to admit you're just stupid.
>>725826282>posts random ai generated images like a jeet>calls you a jeet Keep coping with wine, linjeet. Wine sucks and so does troonix by the way.
>>725826218>Your [wordsalad] can open up your [nerd shit that nobody cares] [wordsalad] too. Keep coping by trying to [nerd shit that nobody cares] and failing miserably.
>>725826397>t. posted from trannyox
>>725826390white people dont get angry being called a jeet becasue they are white, not brown. so its a lie.brown people, usually from india, get mad at being called a jeet. because its true.only one person is angry in this thread and thats (you).sorry that you don't understand this.
>>725821886>sudo pacman -Syu>system breaks because you didn't check the Arch Linux news and the forums every single time you update
>>725824849Wine is not an emulator, retard.
>>725820740I tried with nobara. But none of the steam installs i tried seem to work so i may get another one. It's probably some dual boot partition bullshit with the ssd. Is there a reason i should use mint? From the images, looks kinda ugly.
>>725826814arch rarely breaks anything, but it's true that arch isn't a proper distribution so much as an aggregation of packages.if you want someone to hold your hand feel free to install fedora or one of the other 10 distributions that do so.
>>725826569Okay linjeet.>>725826848It is, tranny.
>>725826882>I tried with nobaraWhy are new people using this? Even the one single dev doesn't recommend people use it, it's made specifically for his family's computers.
>>725826984>It isSo Wine's official website is lying?
>>725827028Idk, some friends tried a bunch of distros and one said that one is good for vidye gaems.
>>725827129Yes actually.https://web.archive.org/web/20201211205432/https://wiki.winehq.org/images/5/5c/Wineconf-2018.pdfhttps://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.misc/c/_g3F2H4ieDc/m/GKeIZCuOev0J
>>725827168it's probably fine, these downstream distros mostly repackage upstream with a few bells and whistles. i recommend staying away from small distros though as it's harder to get help and you'll run into niche issues because the developers think they're smarter than upstream and fuck with the solution.
>>725827028>Even the one single devPretty sure it has more than the creator nowadays but yeah. People should probably just pick a normal distro then install everything they need themselves.
>>725826814that can happen, it happens way less than people think it happens.updating debian between releases can break debian as well. it also doesnt happen as often as people think>>725827028>Even the one single dev doesn't recommend people use ithe would have fewer people using it if he didnt distribute isos of it on the internet. since he does, i think he wants people to use it.
>>725826882>Is there a reason i should use mint?It's one of the more "Just Werks" distros, and all 3 editions have their desktop environments configured in a way similar to Windows>looks kinda uglyIt's not flashy but it looks fine
>>725827246>the community is discord basedthere's no way in hell i'll ever use nobara. just get fedora or bazzite.
>>725826882Nobara works fine for me, like out of the box. Lutris for gog games and steam for well steam. pirating is a breeze too and retrogames work better than on windows most of the time. The only issue I have with linux is using wine raw, it shouldn't be that complicated to change the path where to install shit.
>>725827261the biggest downside of mint is its dinosaur DE cinnamon and old packages. KDE and GNOME are more suitable for modern users.>>725827359>it shouldn't be that complicated to change the path where to install shit.it's literally just an environment variable, you must be new to linux
>>725820802Linux can run any game Windows 7 can run, there is zero reason to run W7 besides zoomer nostalgia for their first OS
>>725827439Usecase for a desktop environment that Krashes?
>>725825939/g/ will shit on Microsoft for having AI coding, then shill Fedora which has recently approved AI coding
>>725820802>microsoft office os for games>steam os for workretarded contrarian
>>725827359Yeah it works just fine for my friends as well. There's probably something i havent tried but after spending like 2 days trying to fix it i just went back to windows for the gayms.I could check it again when i get home. Maybe install the OS again with less storage on the partition cause i don't think i'll use 250gbs just on linux.
>>725827574fedora was always shit for being the corporate distro, same with base ubuntu
>>725827574>the distro that is testing ground for rhel isnt afraid of unstable codeno shit. no one expects fedora to not break, its what its for.
Literally no software I use for and at work supports or run properly on Linux, don't even want to test if games I play runs on Linux and Wine is a shit. Endless tweaking isn't what I want or need.I'm staying on Win10 as long as possible.
>>725827439Dinosaur DE that is boring but just werks and old packages that are stable are the appeal of mint, it's for people who don't want to have to try and fix issues with their OS, they want to just use it and have stuff work. For everyone else, there's Arch.
>>725822875What's the catch? Why is this new distro so popular?I feel like it's going to end up as another flavor of the year meme distro like Manjaro or something
>>725827567>Usecase for a desktop environmentUsing d-bus to make e-begging advertisements?
>>725820740My experience with Mint is that it has a tendency to either slowly break or start slowing down after a few years of use.I recently installed CachyOS and while I haven't been using it long enough to have a longevity review, it's a very nice, sane distro. I have also slept on KDE way too long, thinking Cinnamon was the best option.
>>725827736>don't even want to test if games I play runs on Linux and Wine is a shitEveryone uses Proton-GE and their games just work. Have fun with your jeet botnet.
>>725827754It's Arch for retarded gamers.
>>725827743>it's new therefore it works worseold doesn't mean bug free, cinnamon is rifle with decade old bugs because nobody's actually maintaining that antique.
>>725827754>Arch with guiderails>pre-configured optimizations to make things a bit faster>shilled heavily at gamers, /v/ spent ages talking about it as the W10 EoL approached>YouTubers picked up on the buzz and started recommending it to everyone interested in ditching Windows in general
>>725827754>What's the catch? Why is this new distro so popular?arch but uses optimizations, i think it compiles all packages for newer CPUs but not sure. uses a different cpu scheduler than standard linux kernel. comes with opinionated desktops.
>>725827865>it's new therefore it works worseNot the case 100% of the time but in this comparison it's a much more stable DE than KrashDE. People are free to install MATE or Xfce if they don't want Cinnamon
>>725827754It's just the newest flavor of the month gaymer distro that will be forgotten for the new shiny thing in a year.I really don't understand why people keep wasting their time on these meme distros instead of just going for something tried and tested.
>>725820740Fuck off troonix tranny windows just works
>>725827754It's "we have SteamOS at home" distro aimed at retards that believe that it's fundamentally different from the regular linux distros.
>>725827754It has all the benefits of Arch with less drawbacks.It's Manjaro if it was good.
>>725828059CachyOS is more successful than any other Arch meme distro, and it happened to get popular right when Windows 10 was dying. It's going to be around for a very long time and is replacing Mint as the go-to newbie distro
>>725828041stable has never meant bug free, it just means unchanging. every single one of your x11 based distros are rife with bugs. probably more than modern GNOME.stable only means you know what bugs to expect, it means tomorrow your ui isn't going to suddenly change, that's what stable means.
>>725828073This, when I want my old SSD shredded and unrecoverable I launch windows and it just works.
>>725828146Data without backup is by definition not important.
>>725820740>linux mint>for gaymingbased retard
>>725828108>a fork of a distrohopper tourist distro is actually the next big thing guiseAbsolute retard.
>>725828059More than that, why do people keep making all these new distros instead of just making the already existing ones better?
>>725828241What's your x11 gaming distro of choice? If you're using wayland for gaming, you're beyond retarded.
>>725827802I highly doubt that anything else than 10-20 most popular games would work. And still, doesn't change that I need other software since I don't just play video games on my PC.At the end of the day, Windows just works, Linux just don't work. It's that simple.
>>72582074010 ltsc just werks and doesnt randomly brick itself after an update like Arch and has up to date software unlike Mintthe sad truth is that linux is fundamentally an autist OS for autists. it's usable until you're forced to spend 8 hours troubleshooting a graphics driver bug because the GPU support is still comically terrible. until this changes, which it won't for the foreseeable future, windows will remain king regardless of how much gonorrheah aids microcock adds to it
>>725828315wayland has lower latency than x11 now dumb jeet
>>725828374Weird. I though that wayland was just more wine overhead with xwayland.
>>725820802this>>725820802Linux is for everything, Windows is for work because my office puts it on their computer
>>725828315I have exactly 0 problems using Wayland for gaming. I even use Nvidia.People propagate these memes as if they're truths. It's all mostly bullshit. Nvidia has less GUI configuration than on Windows but games perform well.
>>725828264It already is, retard. CachyOS is gaining users day by day and Mint is in freefall. CachyOS is now the default OS recommended to people looking to switch over, everyone knows Mint is an ancient piece of shit.
>>725828432you can use native wayland with proton-cachyos/proton-ge dont know about proton-experimental.
>>725828241I game on Mint with no issues. What's supposed to be the downside?
>>725828482>I even use Nvidia.10-bpc was the wayland tranny dev's fault, not nvidia that sent the patches years ago. It's just that these linux developers are subhuman and the users are amd e-waste shills.
>>725828526retard
>>725828693CachyOS is being picked up as "Arch Linux" by this survey, retard
>>725828583>no waylandwhen is mint finally going to implement it? their muffin fork is over 5 years old at this point. mint's maintainers are the biggest scammers out there.
>>725822875Based
im not getting a fucking university degree just so i can open a program regardless of how much you spam this thread
>>725828759don't lie pajeet, it's being picked up as "windows 11", over half desktop PCs are using CachyOS
>>725828226> expecting Wintoddlers to know and care enough about backups
For me it's Qubes OS
>>725828841CachyOS spoofs as Win10/11/7/Arch Linux/MacOSeveryone uses CachyOS
>>725828775Lack of wayland hasn't impacted by games at all. Mint is supposed to be horrible for gaming but it literally just werks.
>>725828841>>725828937mintgger seetheyou lost, nobody uses your mouldy old OS anymore, get mad at clem for refusing to bring it into this decade
>steady ~1/3 of Windows software still working like shit on Wine or not working at allWhy Linuxfags insist that it's not a problem?
>>725828960>Mint is supposed to be horrible for gamingsays who? you're just using old drivers, the rest is steam's runtime, the experience should be mostly the same. you can't use wine-wayland though, which is mostly fine for now as it's still in beta.
>>725828759Not him but while this is true, the majority of what’s picked up as Arch here is SteamOS
>>725829046winehq ratings are outdated as fuck
>>725829007>15 years later he's still kwetching
>>725829046because there are free alternatives for the vast majority of that wangblows software that are better anyway
>>725829046It's not a problem because it's more functional software than the whole native linux stack. Their baseline for quality is emulating windows.
>>725828960> Lack of wayland hasn't impacted by games at all. Except for games that have HDR. Or when gaming on multi monitor setup.
>>725829007>get mad at clem for refusing to bring it into this decadehe literally can't. most of the work behind cinnamon was made by GNOME 2 a decade ago. he doesn't have the resources or the technical know-how. and if he just re-forks GNOME he's admitting his project was doomed from the start.
>>725828759retard
>>725829082This, using wine is just a crapshoot at this point, there's no way to tell if something will work or how well it will work until you try it yourself.
>>725829046The only software that doesn't have good alternatives are niche corpo software like certain accounting suites, or if you are balls deep in the Adobe ecosystem.Anything else will either have ports or very good alternatives.
>>725829154doesnt pick up arch with cachyos repos as cachyos
>>725829085>m-m-maybe muh culture war can still save mint!pathetic cope, it's beyond over for mintggers
>>725829149>Or when gaming on multi monitor setupOnly an issue if you have different refresh rates between your monitors for some reason
>>725829108>>725829232>muh FreeCAD is better! It doesn't run like shit and it's not a garbage, I swear!>of course my LibreOffice is better! What do you mean my co-workers can't open my files or when they do it's all messed up?>why yes, I use RawTherapee and Darktable, it's so much better to tweak everything myself, let me just figure out why red shades are completely fucked and denoising melted people faces...>what do you mean there is no alternative to Origin? Y-you don't need it anyway!>your company/university uses software that only works on Windows? Not a problem, just give me 10 years to code my own!As always.
>>725828364>I highly doubt that anything else than 10-20 most popular games would work
>>725829584Not games
>>725829607>latest data showsAnd how much works just as good as on Windows? These fuckers count "it launch" as "it works!".
>>725827754As everyone else said it's instant Arch with optimizations applied. Overall not bad, better than most of the previous attempts. But>>725822875You motherfuckers need to step up your styling game. Cachyos default theming choices are a fucking disaster.
>>725829320Not true, it also relevant for a monitor configurations with the same refresh rate
>>725829626>Doesn't count, I only play games on my PC!
>>725829719Yes this is /v/, I don't work on my home PC but play games.
>>725829584What kind thirdie slave racket are you working for where you are forced to use your own personal computer to do office work?
>>725829712Works perfectly fine on my machine, what's supposed to be happening to make it worse?
>>725829692i use vanilla gnome, fuck theming, i'm not 15 anymore.
>Premiere>Photoshop (GIMP is absolute ass)>AbletonThese are the only things I miss from Pajeetdows. Switched to dual boot last summer and after a few months realized I don't need this glorified trojan on my PC. As far as vidya I didn't notice any downsides - Darktide runs just as well, if not better; BG3 works; everything else works just fine.But man, I miss being able to load fuck ton of VSTi in my music software and not experience latency/crashes all the time. Still, it's way more pleasant experience than Windows. Make the switch bros.
Valve is lurking here. I was shitposting about this game not running years ago and now they mention it in patch notes.
>>725829607>j*urnalism>t*m's hardware
>>725829807>Make the switch brosI will in the future, but for now I'll stay on IoT LTSC 2021 for as long as the software I want to use works
anyone got a good looking theme for conky?I like XFCE but I miss having some numbers to occasionally glance at on my desktop
>>725829791I use vanilla kde, but since they're offering their own theming, at least make sure it doesn't SUCK MASSIVE BALLS. Just ship naked vanilla by default, no need to skullfuck my eyes with this bullshit.
>>725829807>premiereDavinci or Kdenlive>PhotoshopGimp is ok for image editing, for drawing Krita is superior. You can try Affinity, it works on linux and it's free, but I can't recommend it since I've never used it.
>>725830153well you installed their distro, you kinda brought it onto yourself. arch btw doesn't fuck with upstream repositories, thank you very much.
>>725829895>saar I only trust New Dali Post
>>725820740Have it on a laptop. with some light gamesPlan on switching to SteamOS once the Steam Machine releases, an official desktop version of SteamOS is going to be nuts.
>>725830305Is that what the d in protondb stands for?
>>725830393SteamOS desktop isn’t coming until nvidia steps up to the plate or people stop buying nvidea
>>7258297851. Xorg can only work with single monitor and can only synchronize output with a single monitor. That means other monitor well either skip frames or get tearing depending on presentation type.2. If your compositor has functionality to turn itself off for fullscreen applications it won't work on multi-monitor configurations. This is not an issue on Wayland since compositing is based per output.
>>725830232Biggest issue with replacing adobe suite isn't lack of decent alternatives. I'll never stop shilling for blender as superior toolset for visual media production.Issue here is that upstream production will ship you adobe projects and downstream clients will request adobe projects as your deliverables. Visual media guys are literally stuck in adobe sandwich.
Finally a troonix thread.Good morning, sars.
>>725830232>KdenliveLiterally have it installled.It seems like it's rich in features and has all the stuff I need, but UX is so ass. Maybe I just need to force myself to spend some time in it and learn it properly, but for now I just remote connect to my PC at work and do shit in Premiere whenever I have to edit something.
>>725829584I use my work laptop for work that comes with the OS my company IT set up for me.Actually that's a lie because we're only given iPads because I work in an operational setting, not office.
>>725820740Y'all aren't even subtle about this anymore, are you
>>725820740I did but it's too much workinstalled 11 enterprise and it's... fine. at least shit just works.it's way less buggy than 11 ltsc too, which sucks because I'm stuck with bloated windows until 2027.
>>725831330>3.7 GB RAMWhat is this, 2008?
>>725832004Yeah installing Steam and enabling the compatibility setting is soo much work.I'd rather skip that singular toggle and use an OS that is hell bent on standing in my way every step.
>>725829154>Endeavour OS is higher than ManjaroDidn't expect that, feels good to be Endeavour OS chad.
>>725832163Your old laptop will run like new on a lightweight Linux distro.
>>725820802>using an OS with outdated drivers
>>725820740I use Ubuntu
>>725832004Literally why didn't you just stick with LTSC 2021 until at least LTSC 2027?
>>725828059>flavor of the monthCachyOS has been recommended on /v/ for at least 2 years
>>725832313>Ubuntu
>>725830301They do have checkbox for vanilla theming, so they ARE aware that it's shit, they just won't cut it off completely or improve it. >>725832173These motherfuckers also can't wrap their heads around theming. This is arguably worse than cachy.
I will once I can control all my fans, have support for all of my peripheral's software and proper Nvidia drivers.Also fuck Rust, Wayland and systemd.
>>725829246That was written in 2009 my guy.
Whats the best bluetooth controller for linux? Xbone seems iffy, I wanted to use the joycons from my switch but the share button is broken on the right one
Reminder we are a LINUX BOARDUse windows 10/11/7? FUCK OFF AND DIEthanks
>>725832651I'm extremely happy with my cheap 8bit Wireless 2C. The extra shoulder buttons are freely configurable in Steam too.Works on both Bluetooth and wireless dongle.
why didn't normies resist and stay on 10?why did we fail?
>>725820740Every time I followed a step by step guide for dual booting it with windows (because I want to retain access to an easier to use system) it bricks the windows. Every time. Even though the guides always say "oh no this will totally work". Thankfully I always experiment on old computers and not my main, but this experience alone keeps burning me enough to not want to daily drive Linux on my gaming PC.
Does the newest hardware even work on Mint?
>>725832760Microsoft's successful fearmongering campaign.
>>725832791Did the lintrannies tell you to partition your current drive or to get a separate drive just like you would with a proper vm?
>>725832253>Your old laptop will run like new on a lightweight Linux distroUntil you browse the modern bloated web
>>725820740if all linux gaming really is just linux using compatibility tools to make it like windows, why not just use windows?
>>725832985Because windows comes with lots of shit that nobody wants in a game loader.
>>725832985Humiliation ritual.
>>725832883No, nothing works, I had to connect my PC to windows 11 (that's what CachyOS is recognized as) machine to send this post because my modem doesn't work.
>>725832760there's no reasons to not migrate to W11 unless you have a strong opinion about windows and most people don't
>>725832926The former (single drive mini PC). I wonder if I had two drives whether it would keep fucking things up.
Linux so thoroughly won, I don't even understand why people use Windows outside of baby duck or legacy lock-in.
>>725832985Because windows uses compatibility layers and emulation to run literally anything.
>>725833141Because some shit still doesn't work or it has shit performance.
>>725832985because these people don't actually know what their computer is doing, they just want to pretend they have a bit more control over itthey also install a shit load of Google/Microsoft related crap to their distro and then talk about security like they evaded big brotherbunch of retards larping as activists
>>725833130Your best bet is to install on a separate drive and boot through bios basically when you want to use windows if you're dual booting. Unplug your main shit too if you can before installing and you can't fuck up.
>>725832760>why didn't normies resist and stay on 10?Normies are tech illiterate and are afraid of using tools like MAS to activate the 3 year commercial ESUThey also have no idea how to even install an OS so IoT LTSC 2021 is an even more unlikely option for them
>>725824495Legitimately, use heroic game launcher or bottles or just steam and it just works 99% of the time. Worst case you read the latest comments on ProtonDB to get it running.
>>725833201>windows uses compatibility layers and emulation to run literally anythingAnd on Windows it works so well and without the user needing to do anything that most people are completely unaware of this
>>725833201>umm actually exes are not native and windows technologies are not native eitherYou're such a retarded fucking faggot. Just end it all man.
>>725833386if windows works so well, why are windows users prefer shady russian scripts or staying on a 10-years old edition over using it normally?
Aren't mint packages like 2 years out of date? Surely that hurts gaming performance. I'd rather just learn Arch.
>>725833481>seething emulatard
>>725833618Go shove a NATIVE dynamic trannyware ELF up your fucking ass, you faggot.
>>725833646uh-oh melty
>>725832572snaps are kinda good tho Better than flatpaks for most usecases
>>725833676Keep coping with wine and windows compiled binaries while telling yourself that it's actually le native or some gay shit. And remember wine totally doesn't emulate the nt kernel, preloader.c is lying.
>>725833542>shady russian scriptsIt's been completely open source on github since the beginning over 5 years ago:https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
>>725833243>Unplug your main shit too if you can before installing and you can't fuck up.That's a good idea, maybe I'll try that next time.
Too many trannies in the linux/foss space for my own taste
>>725833542>why are windows users prefer shady russian scriptsWhat? just install with region set to English (World).
I migrated to Linux and basically stopped playing vidia and started learn C instead
>>725833861He's talking about using MAS to activate the 3 year ESU on Windows 10 or to activate Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021
>>725833861better russia than a us megacorp
< troonix users
>>725834082what game are they playing?
>>725834082That's just valve's cope of what a linjeet is. Bulldykes don't use troonix, jeets do.
>>725832791How did you fuck that up though? The installer has a specific option for "Install alongside Windows". I have never had that not work.Actually I'm shocked at what DID work for me the other day. I have CachyOS installed already on the entire drive. I partitioned it on CachyOS then booted Windows install and installed it on the new partition. Same drive; I only have one.Everywhere I read told me this won't work, and I would have to fix the Linux bootloader post install because Windows overwrites it.But no. After installing and rebooting, it launches my systemd boot and Windows 11 has automatically been added to the list alongside CachyOS.Just werks.
>>725833256>heroic game launcher>creates new prefix for every game i installIs there a better way to manage this shit? it gets tiresome to install dependencies each time i want to install a new game.
>>725834308Yeah, add the game as a non-Steam game.
Let me know when the Linux community finally settles on what dist is the "main" one that they will develop for and support.Until then, I sleep.
>>725834308Consult the chart
>>725834732You're gonna have to wait until every part of linux is containerized, and it will still die to glibc ABI changes
>>725834732>I don't like *thing* in this distro>therefore the solution is to make my own distro! It will be perfect!>what do you mean you encountered a bug? Fix it yourself, me and my 4 buddies never ran into this. Don't like it? Make you own distro!Average day at Linux community. I remember when I tried to figure out if I can make some simple makro in Gimp to speed some things up. I got replies from people scolding me for not doing research before, giving me links to ~500 pages essays explaining what makro even is (what for), advertising their own forks of Gimp and finally one person saying it's not really possible. To me, it was like visiting madhouse. To them, it was Thursday.
>>725835085As one of the biggest Linux shills in this thread, it really isn't a good OS for anything but games and general PC use (browsing, media, social, very casual editing).
>>725834548I don't want steam installed on my machine.
>>725833905You can span string literals along multiple lines to make it mire readable, like"this will ""be considered one literal"
>>725832670>windows 10/11/7So if some anon is retarded enough to still use 8 he can stay? Sound about right for current intellectual levels of /v/
>>725820979I used to have great luck running Debian 12 with backports. tried putting 13 on my laptop to do the same and had massive problems getting it to detect my AMD iGPU. I used archinstall instead and it's been a headache-free, minimal install like I wanted from Debian. Arch really is the best.
>>725831842we don't have to be anymorewe've normalized linux gaming threads
Terry was 100% completely right about the command line
>>725835827Nothing normal about /g/ discord trannies and gay tech support generals.
>>725835567noted
>>725834875Left should have bullshit steps you have to do on the PC gaming wiki to get games to run.
>>725835959what was he saying?
>>725829658You are literally retarded, and if you cared at all you would just try. I've been on Bazzite for half a year now, and the only game that required some form of tinkering was MHWilds, which even on Windows 11 shits the bed.
>>725834308You can technically install whatever you want in a bottles managed prefix. I only recommend those two because you should be using them with flatpak for isolation anyway, something Windows users can't do.
>>725836335I spent a lot of time tinkering with MHWilds on Windows because it looks and runs like ass.Luckily I only had to do the exact same tinkering on Linux with the exception of reshade having a different install method.
>>725832574What's wrong with it? >>725834304Don't worry, it's not instantenous, Windows will overwrite your boot eventually.
>>725836515flatpak considered harmfulhttps://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/4187
>>725836635Purple on black strains the eye and purple directory icons clash with other default styled icons. It looks bad, it's halfbaked, it serves no purpose, it detracts from original admittedly far from perfect too design.
>>725836335>just tryI value my time, you dumb fuck. I won't "try" every single game beforehand, I won't "try" fixing/tinkering with games to make them work and certainly not with other software I need or might need at some point. OS is supposed to just fucking work. My previous experience with Linux distros made me pretty sure that neither of them fits this criteria. Windows might go into fucked up direction but at the end of the day, it still fucking "JUST WORKS".
We all know the real reason you use Linux.
>>725838442>I value my time, you dumb fuck>is arguing on basketweaving forum thread about gaming on niche operating system
>>725838442I have significantly more frustration and issues daily driving Windows than I do Linux.I just have a different attitude towards it, I noticed. A lot of it is experience. If Windows has an issue, I know how to fix it or where to look, because I've used this thing for decades.Windows doesn't just work. You make it work because you're familiar. On the contrary, my Linux install has significantly fewer issues, and any tinkering I've spent time with is creating a workflow that suits ME perfectly. Something I wouldn't even try doing on Windows in the first place, because it can't.
>>725838442>values his time>weekly problems because of ai/pajeetcode with win11>nvidia driver issues that arent present in linux>needs cmd/powershell to fix issueswindows is the tinker os now.
>>725839314>I have significantly more frustration and issues daily driving Windows Bro, I've used Windows for 20 years and have never had a single issue I would even consider en inconvenience. What the fuck are you niggers even doing?
>>725839043>shitposting is fun therefore not a waste of time>troubleshooting shit for it to work is not fun, therefore waste of time that could be spent shitposting from os that just worksNot a rocket science.
>>725839415>weekly problems because of ai/pajeetcode with win11can't hear you from iot ltsc with security updates till 2032 something>nvidia driver issues that arent present in linuxnever had a single one>needs cmd/powershell to fix issuesliterally didn't open either in decade
>>725839430You probably don't even recognize most issues as issues because you instinctively know how to immediately fix them.But here's an issue I had yesterday on my Windows>enter voice chat>friends tell me I'm completely unreadable>check playback, and my voice is coming through as if I'm in slow-motionI didn't fix the issue because this is my dual boot PC and I simply went back to Linux where it works flawlessly without any tinkering. It persisted through reboots, and the Windows install is a week old with the only installed software being basic drivers (not needed to be installed manually on CachyOS by the way) and Steam.
>>725839415>weekly problems on Win11I have it at work and while it is running laggy and is overall inconvenient compared to Win1/, I have yet to run into single issue not related to "it's not as comfortable as Win10 was" aka "bring back my fucking Start Menu and Explorer" (and if they somehow patch registry edit for right click menu, this as well). Win11 is garbage from design point of view but everything still works.>NvidiaLol, I keep using AMD since more than decade and nobody will convince me to get back to overpriced Nvidia.>CMDLiterally never used outside running yt-dlp and some video converters. Get real.
>>725839314My time with 10 was very reminiscent of my bad experiences with Linux on the side in the mid to late 2000s, it's genuinely baffling how much it doesn't fucking work and requires command copying and pasting coming from 7 (and that's cheating with LTSC cutting some of its design flaws mind you), while desktop loonix is actually much closer to what lightweight power user Windows experience (which nowadays means knowing what's a root folder) used to be.
>>725832315it's buggy as shit, specially the uicurrent gac release feels a lot more fluid>>725832165it's not just thatwhenever you want to run something there's a dozen other dependencies to considersomething that would take 30 seconds in windows takes several minutes-hours in linux because>is it available on linux?>does it run on wine?>is there a linux alternative?>is it in the software manager?>can it be installed from another distro package?>what dependencies are missing?I understand the reason why it works like that but it's too much hassle for something that takes 30 seconds
>>725836726You need seccomp to trap syscalls in wine/proton no matter what. Binary patching would trigger anticheats or antitamper.
>>725841961LTSC 2021 isn’t buggy, it’s the last W10 LTSC
>>725836323https://youtu.be/_23dFb50Z2Y?si=__g-3581j3zOj8Qn
>>725841961Why are you making shit up? None of those things happen in the real world. Dependencies install themselves automatically when installing a package. You're either doing something very wrong or VERY obscure if you ever have to spend a moment considering dependencies. And if your use cases are so niche that your software doesn't have packages, then congratulations you are the target audience for Arch (or derivatives like CachyOS) because the AUR has fucking everything.Looking for alternative software for tasks you're used to doing on Windows isn't really relevant to the topic because it's not Linux' fault you grew up with Windows. If you need a task done and don't know the software for it, you'd have to do some digging regardless.And we're talking about a 1 week transition period here before these issues disappear.
To the 4 of you that use Nobara instead of CachyOS, can you tell me why?Genuine question I actually don't have any love for arch I'm just wondering what to choose
>>725843861>install arch based distro>it immediately bricks itself during the first updateOR>install nobara and enjoy justwerks™ distro
>>725843861the choice doesn't matter as much as you think, most distros are within percentiles of each other in performance, gaming goes through the steam runtime so the v3-v4 packages of cachy are mostly irrelevant. bottom line is just pick one and get started, if you like you can seperate the root patition from the home partition which lets you swap distro without affecting your personal files.
>>725833905based learner
>>725843609based Terry
>>725844127Why do you just make things up?
>>725844336say the thing, anon
Surely the Gabecube means a public release for SteamOS soon, right? For the record, I already run Arch I'm just curious about the mainstream trying it
>>725844482CachyOS but close enough
>>725844562Have you noticed one thing common amongst the hardware used in steam devices? I can give you a hint: color of their GPU
>>725844562it's going to be just another arch fork
Turns out Linux sucks actually
>>725845187Yeah but it sucks a lot less than Windows. The only thing Windows has going for it is software compatibility. The rest is an awful experience for masochists only.The software availability issue is fixing itself at a rapid pace and for games it's nearly complete.
>>725820740no thanks, I'd rather install arch (I did) but still need to stick with winblows 10 until I get an AMD GPU anybody who says Nvidia works on Linux is coping
>>725844127Is nobara really justwerks these days?I remember stuff like the davinci installer breaking every tuesday and these people panicking about GNOME not accepting a VRR patch for a bit there and pushing people around with the DE choice and trying to come up with a solution to not have people install applications the conventional way because apparently it breaks thingsI mean support is still on dick cord right? What the fuck is that all about?Also this is more of a Fedora thing, but why the fuck is btrfs the default choice if it's not going to take advantage of snapshots? CachyOS figured that one out. Just choose the right bootloader and your system has a snapshot setup. Almost as easy as tumbleweed.
>>725845578>The only thing a tool has going for it is getting the job done.WOW! Sorry to hear that you linux based operating system is your identity.
>>725845735davinci is botnetgnome is shitbtrfs is broken dogshit
>>725845642"Working" and "Working well" are two different things. Never trust a person that tells you something works in these parts.You can live with nvidia on linux, it's just compromises. Compromises compromises. Lower performance on certain games. HDR only works on Plasma. Random desktop artifacts at times. Fractional scaling issues. DSC issues.
>>725845642My 4070 Ti Super has been flawless on my Cachy install.
>>725845908>a hammer can randomly break your nose, window, bend a nail or implode completely>but it hammers the nails occasionally so that means it workswinjeets are made differently
>>725846430>I hecking love library maintaining trannies fucking my shit up by breaking all the ABIs in the world, especially when it comes to the GNU/standard c libraryYou're such a brave eunuch, linjeet.
>>725827574this is a SUSE board actually
>>725827754its just the new fad distro like nobara was 6 months ago
>>725827754The cach is literally in the name, pay attention retard
>>725834304>Install alongside WindowsYes I did exactly that. Windows shows up in the bios but won't boot. Linux mint for reference. I can even access files from the windows partition but the windows boot option will always fail.
>>725846430So when is the next big troonix distro with dlls coming since all you faggots do is emulate windows anyways? Would that be admitting defeat and saying that dlls are the superior solution compared to the dynamic dependency hell that just doesn't scale for thousands of packages like it did with a few dozen packages back in the unix days? What are we gonna containerize next and have it die to glibc or some interpreter like ghostscript before actually coming up with a solution to the humiliation ritual? What's the next cope after containerizing every single image with glycin? I really want to know what kind of dogshit the linux trannies will try to force down my throat next just to have it die to glib fucking c.
>>725846725>trannies trannies tranniestake your medication
>>725847472dilate
>>725847563you can dilate after you take your medication
>>725847662
>>725833774not so fast, criminal scum
>>725820740I have nothing against Linux, unfortunally my japanese rpg maker porn games barely works on Windows, let alone on Linux.
>>725845735>GNOME not accepting a VRR patch for a bit thereit was a few years actually, but the vrr patch was half arsed and buggy, in the end GNOME paid the developer to work on it some more and merged it.
>>725847894This clickbait article is misleading Pic related is what actually happenedYou can still activate Windows with HWID which is the superior method anyway
>>725820802I have Windows 10 and Linux Mint installed on the same PC. Tried emulating 3DS on both. Result on Windows: either fail to even lauch due to the lack of needed libraries, either unplayable due to 15 FPS and unreliable sound. Result on Linux: 8 and a half hours of playtime in Bravely Default 1 at the moment. Just saying. (although to be fair GPU on that PC is a decade-old Radeon, so I may be an anomaly)
>>725824585
I cant even get GM-proton 11 to work with eu5
>>725849436emulation, development, sandboxing, security... being better on linux has never been a secret. linux is where you'll find most of the developers and sysadmins who rely heavily on these tools for their jobs.
>>725827824>Arch for employed peopleFixed that for you bud
>>725820740I took the Bazzite pill. I've used Linux distros as a hobby for more than a decade but never truly considered it capable of being a gaming machine. I've had a change of heart. Bazzite seems to have solved many problems that stopped Linux from being a good gaming OS. It's not perfect by any means, but we're getting close.>>725822875Cachy is also a really good option if you're a little more advanced user, poweruser or control freak to your system. But from I've seen the benchmarks don't seem too different from Bazzite. At most you're gaining like 5% of real performance in some games. In my opinion/experience, I don't think the risks of Arch as rolling release beat a performance gain close to margin of error, when Bazzite's atomic design make it almos unbreakable. Which is invaluable for normies.
>>725851034>enter nobara
>>725849436>Tried emulating 3DS on both> Result on Windows:>either unplayable due to 15 FPS>Result on Linux: >8 and a half hours of playtimeSo troonix improved your hardware bro? It must be tranny magic.>Result on Windows: either fail to even lauch due to the lack of needed libraries,Troonix meme. Am tempted to install citra or whatever the new one is and just installing it on a laptop. I already know that the results will shock me because /g/eets love to lie, a lot.
>>725827802CoolNow run Rhinoceros 3D or fusion 360
>>725851034Agree, Bazzite is fantastic. But I'm still gaming primarily on windows untill Linux is fully cooked.
>>725828274Main coders are powertripping or stagnating faggots so its easier to splinter into a separate team and make an another pile of shit.
>>725820740I use bothI don't care about the whole spying shit since im not a lolifag
>>725851505Let's face reality, if you're not gaming primarily on Steam, Linux is still a hassle to get things going. Took me hours just to find and to get a monitoring system like Rivatuner going for HGL since I use mostly GOG games.Not mention I had issue with my cracked steam games working on Linux..
>>725851762Trusted you, if you're gaming on Linux, you're being spied on as well. Didn't one of the OS for Linux have telemetry?
>Easy anticheat
>>725851953>telemetrythere's nothing inherently bad about telemetry, it tells the developers what works, what doesn't, what nobody uses... the reason everyone wants it is because of how valuable a tool it is. a bunch of distros do enable telemetry like bazzite, or even software like firefox itself, it's all above board and you can check what exactly they collect, and how.
>>725852261So you're okay with Linux spying on you now? Holy fuck have things changed. Your dumb as shit if you think there nothing wrong with it.
>>725852762>linux spying on youthat's not how it works. the kernel isn't doing any kind of telemetry. you have software, and some software might enable telemetry by default, most don't. if you're not comfortable with that, choose different software or disable it.
>>725851838I think it's really great for some things in particular. At this point I'd say where linux primarily excels is compatibility, funnily enough. Titles I wasn't able to run last year I can play now. This has changed a lot in the last 5 years. Not for a good number of multiplayer games unfortunately, and nvidia takes a hit on dx12 titles, that's just a given. But that's where things seem to be developing the most, just "getting most games to run". The deck demonstrates how important this is, being a handheld that actually gets better performance and compatibility overtime instead of being a static thing with shitty antipiracy updates.Outside of that it's a mixed bag>Most paid productivity tools either work poorly, need old versions to run or don't run at all, and the developers are still vehemently against supporting linux (some even use the same rhethoric from 10 years ago, "we're not making a build from scratch for 2 customers") and yes /v/, some people do want to use those tools>Tools related to gay men performance are almost nonexistent, LACT is no replacement to MSI afterburner at all, it would be pretty fucking insulting to say otherwise>Driver gimmicky shit is not always supported (half the features in AMD and nvidia panels on windows are unavailable, external devices sometimes need to be quite standard to work or require non obvious workarounds, like some non first party gamepads)>A lot of things working or not working are dependent on display server + desktop environment + compositor which is a headache not one person has on windows
>>725852762show me how my linux distro is spying on me
>>725853009You are cool if you believe that a few disabled things are stopping it. Firefox and a lot of companies have been caught lying about what data there really taking.But if you're okay with it more power to you.
>>725853146most of the software you find on linux is open source, feel free to look under the hood.
>>725853142Telemetry is the automatic collection and transmission of data from remote points for monitoring and analysis. Which is what every company says when they still have your data.
>>725852762>he trusted the linjeetPrivacy is a buzzword and it's okay when pozilla does it because trannies are the cascred cow. It's good when ubuntu adds amazon ads too because amazog is based. It's also good when kde (adware malware) asks you to donate by pushining notifications through d-bus.>>725853009>the kernel isn't doing any kind of telemetry.Linux is an ecosystem, dipshit. And you know it.
>>725853272ok and show me where the telemetry is in fedora
>>725853283>Linux is an ecosystemlinux is a behemoth with tens of thousands of different applications, and like 100 millions lines of code. saying "linux is spying" is stupid.
>>725853410I never said all Linux distros have it.
>>725851034I'm just not sold on Bazzite being reliable with Fedora as its foundation.
>>725853446>behemoth with tens of thousands of different applications, and like 100 millions lines of codeThis could be said about Mac and Windows. Which we both know are spying.
>>725853009How about "enable it if you want it" Opt in, not opt out. Very important to establish trust.One of the reasons people switch to linux is because they generally mistrust Microsoft (or maybe Apple). You cannot expect that after years of telemetry doing fuck all to make anything better (even when we remove any of the big companies out of the equation completely) all people are going to happily agree to have this sort of thing enabled by default.
>>725853618>This could be said about Mac and Windowsno it's not, because linux is not one single operating system. there's dozens of distributions, of desktop environments, all with their own preset of packages. >>725853636opt-in metrics are pretty much useless because you end up with only power user statistics.
>>725853475>damage control alreadyno anon you claimed linux was spying, linux is the linux kernel, thats the only common denominator between distros.
>>725853854>opt-in metrics are pretty much useless because you end up with only power user statistics.Oh no. So be it. User choice not developer choice.
>>725853854Linux Foundation is still based on the same thing. Just because they have different OS doesn't mean they're not spying, which has been proven; some Linux OS have been.
>>725853446>linux is a behemoth with tens of thousands of different applications, and like 100 millions lines of code.No, no, no, no, no. Linux is an ecosystem with programs that are specifically made for linux first. This includes specific libraries that are like cancer. Linux distributions aren't all the most professional linux based operating systems, but 99% of the time they all rely on these specific programs coming together and making the "standard linux distro" which has all the current software running under the hood to make sure you have 100% linux compatibility. That's why there are so many hard coded dependencies on every linux distribution and certain things that you need such as systemd are surgically selected. Other free operating systems are purpose built, but linux has it's own predetermined ecosystem that you need unless you want to make things not work because the developers decided that they shouldn't work.
>>725853908I clearly never said all before you joined this conversation.
>>725854072no damage control will save you anon, you lost and got raped
>>725853617Yes, let's just install arch instead. A distro known for breaking every other week lmao
>>725854129It's okay my friend. You are clearly upset at being wrong.
>>725854295>anon will literally never admit to being wrongyou do realize people can literally just scroll up and see you saying that linux spies on people right. it doesnt matter if you said all or not, linux IS the linux kernel.
>>725854205Yes, Arch breaks less than Fedora, that's how unreliable it is.
I did a few days ago and so far it is pretty good. I haven't came across any major problems and pretty much everything I play seems to just work with proton. Why is everyone saying this is difficult to use?
>>725854375You can clearly read that I said some Linux OS do spy on you. Some even reply proving me right. But because you are blind cultist Linux users, you won't admit you're being spied on. Linux users get so upset over nothing. I use Linux by the way. Just not a cultist like you.
>>725854375You would kill yourself if linux was actually just a kernel. That would mean that it could be a part a kernel agnostic free operating system. There is a reason for all the linuxisms existing and linux adjacent having no "standards" for free software. It's so only the linux ecosystem would be the thing getting support. And also how would you spread you faggotry?
>>725820740I thought Mint had a bug where it will shit the bed if the game runs bellow 60 fps?
>>725854654>why would people on /v/ of all places make up wild claims?
>>725854854>>725854672>esl retard in charge of understanding the english language
>>725854654Using something for a few days means nothing in the tech world.
>>725855193First sign of you losing the argument.
>>725854654thats because mint is designed to be an actually good idiot proof distro. more hands on distros like arch are an exercise in patience for the sake of customization and honestly I wouldn't recommend them to the average person who just wants a system that is like windows and just werks.i use arch btw but I wouldnt fault anyone for using an "easy" distro like mint
>>725822875it's pretty good
>>725854892puta
>>725851405The linjeet was lying. As it turns out, all you need to do is install azahar with winget or manually download the executable installer from github and it just works. Muh libraries btw.
>>725855235why do you assume I give a fuck about what the "tech world" thinks? I don't have anything to prove to some turbo nerds.
>>725855321do you think you are fooling anyone?
>>725849436Sounds about right, OpenGL is shit on Windows AMD drivers and yours was probably too old to get the fixes from drivers whereas Linux's just worked all along. I knew people with weak PCs had to dual boot into Linux to make 3DS Monster Hunter playable a few years back.
>>725854892>wild claimsyeah im sorry, I was actually lying. you see when I booted up my computer today Nadella jumped out of my screen, beat my teeth out with a baseball bat and then proceeded to break everything in my room. Is that a common issue with mint or just linux in general?
>>725855392>Archniggers think that gooning to their OS makes it ok if its not useablelmai
>install arch>it breaks>install bazzite>can only install fatpaksMint is still the best
>>725855387i used to use shit like arch and artix years ago then i realized i dont give a shit and just installed opensuse. desu its the perfect distro
>>725820740mint is just ubuntu but the dev team didn't go full full retard mode (yet)>>725832760windows 10 is fucking garbage but it at least isn't as shit as 11.
use steam os
>>725857814why do that when you can just use arch with kde?
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>linux
>>725835651>Arch really is the best.samefag here. it just broke after only being installed two days with my first upgrade. FUCKING WHY DID IT NOT UPDATE MY BOOT FOLDER WHEN UPGRADING
>>725859594>the arch experience
>>725820802fpbp
I want preconfigured arch with wayland.What's the distro for me?
>>725859780I might try Alpine Linux next. Fedora 42 XFCE would simply not boot under any circumstances and Ubuntu is shitting the bed with rust coreutils and sudo-rs currently. otherwise, I'm going to have to conclude DEI cancer has ruined Linux and I need to just buy a Mac.
>>725860715>preconfigured anything with hotkeys based workflowDon't do it, its gonna suck balls. If you insist - Omarchy, Cachyos or just git clone some popular dotfiles repo like ML4W or end4 or hyprdots.
>>725861476>Don't do it, its gonna suck balls.Why? Can't wayland just fall back to x11 when it needs to?
>>725844562steamOS makes very little sense given how many components of it are available in repos. Even in repo as ridiculously dated as debian, you can find gamescope (compositor steamOS uses) and run steam in big picture mode inside of it, you'll get the vast majority of steamOS functionality this way and the only difference between your setup and deck would be, i dunno, system settings in UI
>>725861692nvm, i misread your post as preconfigured arch with hyprland. Just get Cachyos and make sure you choose vanilla theming in installer.
>>725820740Linux is gay.
>>725820740based but I use CachyOS with Hyprland - it keeps my satisfaction up
>>725862484And that's a good thing!
Any thoughts on Pop!_OS?It's getting a big LTS update this December, was thinking of moving everything to it.I'd probably start with my Laptops, then finally my desktopI'm kinda sick of Windows desu even though I'm using W10 Ed LTSC
>>725862668>TranzziteThe name is BAZZite. You gunna remember me!
>>725863019PopOS with Cosmic Desktop environment is nice I like it
>>725862667>FL studio on Mac instead of Pro Toolsnigga dun no what he talkin bout
>>725863019it's a corporate distro, their interest lies with enterprises and businesses. it's pretty much like ubuntu, it's just not usually a good fit for regular users.
CentOS/Redhat is the best distro. Plus you can put experience with it on your resume because every business's server runs it. Not that they will hire you instead of an indian but still
I want to move to Linux but I have no idea what distro to use. Originally, I was planning on using Mint or Manjaro but apparently those suck according to anons on this thread. I mainly use my PC for mixing/mastering professionally and for vidya. Plz help.
>>725864440>use my PC for mixing/mastering professionallylinux doesn't really support that yet, come back in a few years. fyi the distro doesn't matter much, everyone on linux uses the same packages so you'll get access to the same software regardless of where you end up.
>>725820740>used mint for like 3 years no issue>went to endeavour out of curiosity>borked my system while drinking, still dont know what i did>back to mint>for some inexplicable reason it feels like shit to use after a few months>currently on omarchy because i wanted to try a quick install of hyprland>its actually very fun to useloonix is as hard or as easy as you wanna make it vid related. Im not scared of computers so im willing to try new things out even if i dont understand it fully
>>725864440Mint is rock solid and retardproof but being built on Ubuntu it's slow on updates. Arch is bleeding edge packages and Valve builds on it but it requires some brains to setup properly and when something goes wrong it's always a pain in the ass to fix. If Valve releases Steam OS when the gabecube goes on sale that would be the best option.
>>725864440>sound guy>linuxAre you sure about that? Linux audio is kind of its own rabbit hole, so unless you're prepared to read quite a bit, wrench around issues manually, accept some things simply don't exist and have time to set everything up - don't do it.
>>725864440>I mainly use my PC for mixing/mastering professionallyDon't switch to Linux. It sucks big time for audio guys.
>>725864279kek okay buddy
>>725864953does wow have a native troonix client?
>>725865161no, I'm running in a flatpak with proton
>>725864440Linux audio is a fucking mess.Pic related.
>>725864440>I want to move to Linux>I mainly use my PC for mixing/mastering professionallyThis must be bait
>>725820802Gaming is my work.
>>725864713>>725864992>>725865121>>725865258>>725865330oh...
>>725832760For the same reason they didn't resist and stay on 7 (though they stayed on 7 much longer than 10)Normalfags fear the security scaremongering.>Look at all these massive data breaches we've had over the last few years>That's why you need to trust us with all your data, because you're too small and retarded to be trusted with your own security!>Also uh and your time is too VALUABLE look at all these PRODUCTIVITY features we offer on subscription!
>>725820740yes but i have trouble deciding between gnome and kde i keep switching between but i think when xfce gets gayland i will probably end up back on that
>>725864440you and reaper will become big frens since there is a native version and i dont use anything else so i cant really say much else. vsts can be a pain in the ass to use but for the most part i had an ok time although im not doing anything that would be considered professional and consider protools to be a scam. literally just put mint or whatever you decide to go with onto a live usb, and give it a run through to see what it feels like to you. ymmv if you consider it to be worthwhile or not. If youve been doing audio for a while, id assume you know what youre reading when it comes to troubleshooting guides. Try it out for yourself
>>725865724If it's any consolation if you are masochistic enough to get JACK configured properly it is extremely low latency.
>>725865724If it's actually not bait what did you plan on using for professional audio? Don't you guys stick to your preferred DAW?
>>725864440>I mainly use my PC for mixing/mastering professionally You are the most unfortunate soul when it comes to linux.Gaming? Piss easyHeavy modding? It's fine minus one or two touchy mod managers if you're the kind of retard that needs a manager for his 220gb skyrim ultimate immersive horse cum modpackGraphic design? Weird and uncomfortable, but possibleVideo editing? Takes some adjustment but okay.Audio? lol, lmao even
>>725865953>buy new hardware>windows 11 is installed on itit's really not more complicated than this. there's a reason why linux is struggling to get marketshare, defaults matter.
How often are you guys really using your computer not counting playing videogames? I watch tv on my fire stick, browse the internet on my samsung tablet. I dont do much else frequently that involves a computer. I get if you use one for work then it matters but in general the OS you run really doesnt make a difference. 90% of my time is spent on android. When I am genuinely using my desktop pc its basically just to run videogames and thats it. It may as well be a console. The OS doesnt matter to me at all
>>725865953>>725866440this. people will fuck around in regedit when the pajeet on youtube tells them too when something goes wrong on windows despite not knowing what the fuck theyre doing. HOWEVER, windows is familiar enough that they feel comfortable doing it. If computers worldwide came with [insert distro here], then it wouldnt be like pulling teeth trying to convince people that linux isnt some byzantine software that destroys hard drives on updating like windows.
>>725864440i had a behringer interface and it seemed to just work i dont do anything serious though only plugged in my guitar for a bit
>>725866925kys phoneposting zoomer scum
>>725866925the only time i use a tv is when im in bed and even then its a stremio/youtube machine. Any other time, im on my computer.
>>725866081I've been using REAPER for a while now, with mainly whatever free VST I can find that doesn't completely suck. Although, I do use Pro Q3, Pro L 2 (I'm sure I can find an alternative for that one) and some Arturia stuff. I think I could take my chances and dive in, I'm not completely tech illiterate so if I run into something I could perhaps fix it(?). I'm also planning on buying an Audient i24, not sure how's the compatibility with Linux.I've also had problems with making my Focusrite Sapphire 24 DSP (firewire) work on Windows and I still can't make it work.
>>725866925I use my computer all the time. I watch movies on it since my chair is more comfortable than my couch anyway. I play vidya on it. I do work on it. I only really use my phone for calls and jacking off. I haven't turned on my TV for like 4 years at this point, I'm not even sure if it still works.I use arch btw. I also use arch on my work laptop, just thought I should mention it :).
>>725866129It's all here >>725867324
>>725867105On the contrary I'm in my mid 30s and have back problems so sitting in a computer chair for hours causes me discomfort. Tablet browsing the internet on a couch is the superior experience. >>725867197But what are you actually doing on the computer with your time? Browsing 4chan? You could do that anywhere in more comfort doing it on a tablet. The only thing better on a computer is typing but when you are just writing short sentences in a 4cgan post swipe typing is just fine. For the record I actually run CentOS on my plex server in my garage and think it is far superior to windows but I dont care enough to put it on my laptop or desktop pc because I know it would be a huge headache setting it up and there would be no real gain
>>725820740I think I'm gonna go with a bazzite desktop install once the extended windows 10 updates run out.What are the downsides? Last time I used Mint I ran into issues with nvidia drivers.
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>>725867769you should consider tranzzite>>725862668
>>725867838wtf where did you get this picture of me?
>>725865258I just use whatever the default was on my distro and it works.
>>725867769the biggest downside is also its biggest upside - being immutable. it's unbreakable, which also means you can't fiddle with the system if that's what you like to do.
>>725865724Reaper seems good, but I'm no audio guy. You'll have to explore that yourselfhttps://youtu.be/lm51xZHZI6g?t=2m52s
>>725820740I have no interest in transitioning, groomer.
>>725868103Is that because of permissions or something else? What are some examples of fiddling that might be impaired when dealing with an immutable OS?
>>725867324i pirated a lot of arturia stuff and it works great. the biggest thing is that some of the drm that vsts (namely instruments) use are fucking asinine to get around (although thats not really the fault of linux) but nothing from arturia gave me any issue. Theres also a bridging software for stuff thats windows/mac only although i cant remember it for the life of me atm. BUT, my interface is a profx6v3 that i bought for cheap. Outside of that, and using my keylab on my external synths or every once in a while software synths, i really didnt run into much issue that you wouldnt get anywhere else like making sure your midi channels are lined up correctly, sample rate, asio vs waspy, etc. Its absolutely possible
If you really need a piece of software to run without wine/proton then use a Windows VM.
>>725867732Mid-30s as well. I sit in a computer chair all day for work and don't want to after work. So having a gaming laptop hooked up to my TV was the best decision I made.
Linux works. Use it or don't.
>>725868317anything that isn't already included in the system needs to be installed through flatpaks. you can change your settings and whatnot just fine.
>>725870207So for example if I want to install a relatively unpopular app off of github and it doesn't have a flatpak I'm SOL? Or if there are additional dependencies that don't have flatpaks? Would the experience be similar to Windows "S" editions that are initially locked to Windows App store apps only? Can you ever "unlock" third party installs like with "S" editions?
>>725868317All programs need to be installed in user directories. Because the user can edit these files, the programs need to be containerized using flatpaks to prevent bad actors.This can lead to issues like "Open in file browser" not working in Davinci Resolve like this guy found out https://youtu.be/_xht6TvyuGA
>>725870807Ugh, that kinda sucks. No workarounds in Bazzite for this?Are there any distros that are similar to Bazzite? I want something that just werks. I've tried desktop distros in the past and somehow something as simple as installing a GPU driver causes a number of issues. I already use terminal for running servers but I don't want to have to rely on it in a DE.
>>725867324Interesting, I guess I'm a retard for thinking there was no native DAW, all the weird vst dongles seem like they would be annoying to set up though, but possible doable. I use mint for gaming and it just werks.
Why would you even want people coming from Windows 10 in Linux? All non-goycattle already switched by the time 7 went EoL.
>>725871757This is why Linux suffers. Secret club faggots like this who need something to clutch to their chest to make themselves appear interesting.Why would you want more people in Linux? Because then it would possibly become a real usable desktop OS. Greater adoption means more software compatibility. That benefits secret club faggots as well.
>>725871059nobara
>>725872682I remember nobara shitting the bed every other Nvidia update, but maybe thing got better.
>>725822875Why should I pick CachyOS for gaming instead of Fedora?
>>725871757it's fine for the vast majority that only need non-malware gaming and a web browser.
>>725871059I have the copypasta here>MintIf you want a jack-of-all-trades OS that's very beginner-friendly and hands-off.>BazziteFor a hands-off console-like experience and low-fuss gaming focus.>CachyOSFor bleeding-edge Linux gaming performance and deeper customization/control, but you need a willingness to do some tinkering.If you go off the beaten path:>Avoid debianOutdated software for the sake of stability. For gaming it's not good to have old graphics drivers>Avoid GnomeShit desktop weighted down by the spergs developing it>Avoid manjaroAdds a layer on top of Arch which can make it break more easily. Arch forks are already done better by CachyOS, EndeavourOS and even Omarchy
>>725820740I'll keep using Windows 10 until shit breaks, then consider it
>>725820740I did ever since Windows added "active hours"How and why does a computer that can't update anymore restart itself for that shit
>>725872158If you don't think Linux has been usable for years you should stop using Linux. If you even use Linux and aren't some faggot screaming from outside the gate.Why would letting in a bunch of mouthbreathers that don't care about free and open source software or unix improve Linux? They aren't going to contribute code, they are going to shit up every support channel with inane issues because they can't RTFM. Every distro catering to them with come up with the most niggerlicious interfaces imaginable just so retards can avoid typing in simple commands and touching anything Unix-like in an Unix-like OS.
>>725835651The xz utils breach is why I won't use bleeding edge distros. I know arch wasn't affected and it was mostly systemD fault but the infected files still made it to arch systems. Even though it couldn't make good on its payload that's a close enough call for me.Running devaun these days.
>>725873949What about Fedora tho?
>>725875582It's fine, but they're being niggers about anything proprietary. Extra hoops to get those running.
>>725874994>Running devaun these days.Based, run that on my Core 2 Duo
>>725875997So should I pick CachyOS with KDE for my gaming and overall Krita/art/music autism?, since I heard that Fedora is the most stable distro to use with KDE.
>>725824585And I'll do it again!
>>725876405Go for it. Once you get a feel for it, you can judge yourself which distro is best for you. Only you can know if CachyOS or Fedora is best for you. Also, if you ever need to drop into the the terminal, consult the tldr pages https://tldr.inbrowser.app/
is discord desktop fucked for everybody else? if i turn on the noise cancelling sometimes my voice gets all fucked up
>>725820802fpbp death to all linux trannies
>>725872682thanks I'll take a look
>>725873949thanks anon
>>725877152Fuck off wintroon your own masters hate you btw
>>725874953didn't read your melty sorry
>>725820740For me it's Knoppix
>>725877040Use vesktop already. The official client sucks ass.
>>725871757>We Windows 7 users are better than Windows 10+ usersYou are all niggercattle. 10 is shit. 7 is shit (not to mention has the same spyware as Windows 10). XP is shit. Windows was never in a good state. It's always in some abominable transitional state between OS versions.
>>725866925I'm on my PC most of the day. Work, study, hobbies, movies, shows, music, play. I'd rather blow my brains out than do what I do on a tablet.
>>725865121>>725864713>>725865258>>725865330>>725866289Seems like you guys never touched any audio workload in your life. Linux audio is production grade. The Linux audio stack shits on anything Windows has to offer. Need to tinker and configure some stuff. But it's the same on Windows, or even worse, since the audio stack is shit by default.
>>725880280>The Linux audio stack shits on anything Windows has to offer>But it's the same on Windows,Yeah true, I was using windows when I tried audio production, it was awful
>>725873949Debian testing is fine, my RX7650 GRE just works™ and I doubt there's much in the way of major updates coming for it in mesa
>>725876405cachyos is a good non retard entry level distro that has the potential to be endgameit adds solid foundations to arch while not limiting you in any capacity and it's the most proximate to valve's work while also bringing its own goodies like its custom kernel that's made for actually modern cpus
>>725880280>Linux audio is production grade.Buddy I can't even disable the speaker/mic individually on my PS5 controller like I could on windows so random programs and games stop seeing it as a valid input/output device and playing music through it.However, I recognize the fault is partially on me for buying this dogshit controller to use on PC.The one solution I tried that actually lets me individually disable that speaker just forgets the setting as soon as I close the window.
>>725882547Do you mix music with your PS5 controller, anon?
>>725882547i am not sure it would work but maybe a udev rule could block access to the speaker i had something on my computer acting like a joystick and had to permanently block it that way
>>725873949>recommends mint but not debianlolMint is more stale than Debian Stable
