Are you ready?
>>727312921I'm ready as I can be. I hope that some of my mains make it to elite 8 this year.
>>727312921forced cultureslop rigged by outside forces, tripfags, weebs and attention whores who are unsatisfied with drawthread deliveriesback in my day this shit didn't exist and people just rigged gamefaqs polls instead
>>727313221This, but unironically.
>>727312921Queen and the winner sucked ass so maybe that means we get a good king.
>>727313309Tron is a fine winner. The tournament should've been reset anyways.
>>727312921I've had a hard time keeping up with this after 2023.
>>727313221It's an entertaining OC magnet so at least there's that. One of the last fun events on this website, even if it's rigged by discordniggers and other faggots to hell and back.
>>7273129212019>based timeless winner2020>the perfect winner2021>fun Western winner2022>literal who meme winner2023>no substance winner2024>shit Peruvian pick winnerWe're long overdue for a real winner.
>>727313484I just hope we can get the /v/ga voting system. Queen's round 1 rig scandal sucked most of the fun out of it, all that was left to do was shitpost.
>>727313609Jack isn't a literal who and still gets threads on /v/ daily. You can't even say the same about Armstrong or Batter.
>>727313609In all honesty the only two I haven't liked were 2022 and 2024.
>>727313379Tron was boring and a meta win. Hardly anyone gives a fuck about her.
>>727313452All you need to know is Shadow the Hedgehog is King of /v/.
>>727313738thread spam =/= popularityKlonoa isn't some uber popular platformer guy like Sonic or Kirby just because there's always something up for him.
>>727313862But Jack is popular on /v/ which is the point of these tournaments.
>>727313379>The tournament should've been reset anyways.That really wouldn't have solved anything. You'd still have the same complaints about vulnerability, lost hype over redoing a whole day, and the picks the guy said he rigged against would've won in foregone stomps to stick it to him. Except it turned out later the guy was largely bullshitting and it didn't change the result of most matches he said it did.
Which 3 TF2 characters would you like to see this year?
SoWho's going to be your main man?
>>727314149Your pic, Heavy, Demoman.I fucking hate Scout.
Why Alex You lost the game of course.
>>727314149It's gonna be>Scout>Heavy>SpyRegardless.
>>727314325The KING of Chaos
JC Denton NEEDS to win.
>>727314360I don't hate Scout, but I like Soldier, Medic, Heavy, Spy, and Engineer more than him. I like Scout over Sniper and Pyro, but that's it.
>>727314325The usual jobber and battler.
>>727314325The Main Mega ManAnd Dr. Wily
>>727314149going all in on Scout, then Soldier and Demoman
>>727314467To be fair, those three are my mains, kek, but I always considered a good Scout far more annoying to play against than even a good Sniper.I also found his campaign 2 years ago to be really forced.
>>727314325MY KINGTravis Touchdown would also be pretty cool.
>>727314325I want Eggman to win this year and break the same series curse.
>>727314360>>727314467>>727314594Based picks>>727314417I'm asking who (You) would like to see, regardless of that.
>>727314325Fuck it, we ballin'.
>>727313609Based and correct assessment.
>>727313221Yeah it's fucking retarded and I'm hiding all king of v threads
>>727314325lol& even if he'll most likely end up getting raped again
>>727313379Eh, I guess. But between how that went down and King last year, I must admit my morale is quite low. But maybe it'll be a low expectations high results kind of year.
>>727314656Scout is still cool, I'd just hate to see forced bullshit again like what you said.I want SCOUT, the cocky, funny guy that goes out and says "We've both got buckets of fried chicken. Wanna do it?".
I want a jobber to win King this year. Anyone except Eggman.
>>727314594Shaggy lookin ahh
>>727314325TravisAdmittedly Eggman winning would be pretty funny and perfect though.
>>727315423If he wins, will he retaliatory-rape Batter and Grimm in /v/alhalla for the humiliation they dealt him?
>>727313221>people just rigged gamefaqs polls insteadI have to admit, I miss those days. With the way this shit's been going lately, I sometimes wonder if we got old and became the very thing we used to mock.
>>727315495Holy kino. Got more Bub and Bob art saved?
>>727314325Rance is always my main for king.
>>727313609Go back to your board/altchan dirty tourist
>>727315553I do indeed
>>727315553These threads were so much fun. I wish I had more art saved from the Launchpad/Albert Einstein campaign too
>>727315603No amount of poopdickschizo/co/esl/tnt/newfag/judyfag boogeyman deflection cope is going to make Batter Garland Grimm and Shadow unilaterally good winners like Armstrong and Dante
>>727315493Eggman would make robot clones of them that will rape them if he won.
>>727314325Every year until he reaches the E8 or wins.
>>727315658>>727315736Love these two niggas like you wouldn't believe.
>>727315743Garland is a great winner. I only see cross boarders actually say he isn't comparable to Dante or Armstrong.
>>727315743>universally good winnersSee? This is the shit I'm talking about. Why the fuck do we care about universal popularity beyond /v/ in these things? At that point it's just a gay little popularity poll with less votes, dime a dozen and fucking boring
>>727313221>muh riggingwow i can't believe a single elimination tournament popularity poll is not an objective metric of fictional character qualityswear to fucking god nobody except butthurt fanboys feeling slighted actually complains about that shit
>>727314325The one and only
>>727315876He means universally popular among /v/ which he is correct about.
>>727315876It's fun once or twice, but four years in a row gets old. It doesn't have to be wacky subversion every time around, by this point that's cliche.
>>727315995But anon, Garland is popular among /v/.
>>727315743You don't belong here. We love him, sorry bitch>Shadow I won't defend that rat
>>727315743Garland is completely fine, Grimm also works very well as the oddball indie pick for the board.It's Batter and Shadow that stick out, with the first hardly being relevant to the board at all, and second being very divisive, especially given the prior meta (even if he's not actually that bad either).
Reminder the King /v/ problems go back to Recettey winning.
>>727316029Nothing about loving Shadow is subversive for me.
>>727316145Dimeless BITCH exists as the punching bag for the other 6 queens
>>727315995"universal" popularity with newfags and crossboarder tourists - or lack thereof - means fuck all to me. The difference between a good winner and a shit winner is clear in the threads as they existed at the time, period
>>727315947>swear to fucking god nobody except butthurt fanboys feeling slighted actually complains about that shitAbout rigging? That big problem that has affected tourneys so many times already and angered basically anyone who realizes that it's happening? The thing that trivializes these threads, making the voting process and board culture part meaningless? Yeah just fanboys
So it's agreed that nobody is voting for Kratos right?
/vg/ thread. /vg/ posters. Fuck off.
>>727314325>DoomguyLol, never gonna win now with all the faggy "Slayer" shit that came out, especially in The Dark Ages
>>727316262This post being yet another perfect example of why /v/'s current turbofaggot 'electorate' couldn't be trusted to boil water
>>727316336Definitely, he wouldn't win even if the new games didn't exist
>>727314325I think he has a chance to make it to round 3 or 4 this time.
>>727316336PLEASE, we had two awful queens and last King stunk too. I want these to be good again.
Please let it be Max Payne
>>727316276>is clear in the threads as they existed at the time, periodIn that case Tron is our worst winner yet.
>>727312921I will try my best to get abelard into the bracket even if he loses round 1, for he has carried me through every step of being a rogue trader.He's also one of the few game characters that has started a considerably sized lineage
>>727316331Rigging sucks but some of you autist take this shit way too serious and it's pretty gay.
Did you guys make anything funny or cool for this year?
>>727316556And it's a shame, because she's genuinely a good character.I believe the results of this year's Queen is /co/cucks' "anti-campooner" mindset in praxis. Their Mr. finale sucked ass, too.
>>727316510Anon Max Payne hasn't qualified since the niggerbuff incident.
>>727316691It's that + the anti-loli faggotry which feels way heavier the last few years.Not that it doesn't go ways somewhat. /co/ tourneys were drenched in /v/fag arguing.
>>727316691Ironically, Tron is the /co/ pick because they recognize her from a game with Spider-Man in it.
>>727316691I just voted for Etna to lose solely so I didn't cuck that dedicated Etnafag.
>>727316331do you actually not know what a popularity contest is? the tradeoffs of this anonymous forum? the upsets of a single elim tournament? drama that goes hand in hand with community-run events?i can understand that the combination of all that can make you feel like it's not even worth engaging with (i just lurk for OC once a day anyway), but you must be a clinical idiot to think it's some foul perversion brought by evil discorders (or whoever the fuck) and not THE NATURE OF THE FUCKING THINGmight as well complain that it's too cold on the south pole
Your future King's game is 90% off right now. What's your excuse, /V/?https://store.steampowered.com/app/721180/Dustborn/
>>727316691>Queen sees king be a retarded meme fest with a winner that ages like milk in a hot car>Spitevote a boring wet fart that got lucky to stick it to king campooners>King sees queen be boring and gay and kick out anything that could be fun>vote the first retarded meme that gets a million scribbles to stick it to queen>repeat ad nauseumWe have to break out of this cycle FAST
>>727316556I'd argue Shadow but Tron certainly didn't feel like the star of this year's contest by any metric. She's a fine character, I have no hate toward her and she has plenty of funny qualities and /v/core cred. But it barely had a chance to shine. She deserved a better campaign and way more energy, she feels like a compromise winner and that's just the truth.But the whole contest had a fucking shadow over it this year with the early scandal and it was hard to pierce through that for a long time. That's the best I can say about it
>>727316456he had his best chance last year thanks to recency bias of I.Vunless michael with a gun gets inexplicable groundswell some time later, you might as well give up on YIIK
>>727316842>anti-loli faggotry which feels way heavier the last few years.Which is mostly crossboard faggotry too.
>>727316842>It's that + the anti-loli faggotry which feels way heavier the last few years.The gate is crumbling, can't hold back the tide forever, /v/ will homogenize just like everywhere else has
>CROSSBOARDERS-CROSSBOARDERS-CROSSBOARDERS-CROSSBOARDERSGet a new line
>>727317031>compromise winnerI'd say more of a spite winner. Compromise would imply there was something wrong with he other picks but Etna definitely felt the more favored. It was a lot of shitting over petty meta and loli though.
>>727317197Get another board, faggot
>>727317197You are utterly retarded if you think these tourneys aren't crossboarded to fuck. /tnt/ is blatant proof.
>>727317076Nah, he's definitely gonna make it this year I feel it is either that or hopium.
>>727314325Same as its ever been.>>727314149Scunt, Soldier, Spy
>>727317346What even is the appeal of campaigning for an obnoxious ugly character from an awful game
>>727316842>/co/ tourneys were drenched in /v/fag arguing.Touche, but notice I only mentioned the finale. Any meta-crossboard flame war niggering that started appearing was immediately drowned in... actual sincere campaigning.Once the last heavily campaigned for characters (Hank Hill and ESPECIALLY Eddy) were out, the threads became a total snoozefest. At that point there was nothing to talk about except for the meta. I'm not saying Daffy was some silentfag pick, far from it, it's moreso that his opponent left a lot to be desired, the utter stomp in which Daffy won only confirms it. The only saving grace is that Daffy is admittedly a very cool winner.
>>727317445I enjoy the challenge. It's that simple and I do enjoy the game somewhat for what it is.
>>727317513There's also the fact that the Superdaffy spam might've happened because Daffyfags wanted an easy finale.
>>727317556What is there to enjoy? It's a bigger moviegame than the average PS5 over-the-shoulder cinematic experience.
>>727317591The superdaffy spam felt like one falsefaggot. Superman beating Hank was a little weird though, but Superman did just have the big movie, comic picks were resurging, and Hank was getting that Kratos spam all tourney, so eh.
>>727317445alex is funny, sometimes even intentionally, and his game has actually obtained the status of interesting (but still awful)>says IT'S OUR WORD when a girl calls him a ginger>thinks about which of the girls he knew would become camgirl>calls the closest thing he has to a love interest VAGUELY ETHNIC
>>727314325
>>727317625Calling YIIK a movie game is extremely inaccurate. The game is flawed as fuck, but it does have more shit going on than an over the shoulder movie game.
>>727317208I just don't want to call Tron a spite winner, I LIKE Tron, I can respect her as queen, but this year didn't feel like it belonged to her. In the early rounds, I was literally one of like MAYBE three people that did any Tron posting whatsoever. I was one of the main ones pulling for her against Risky Boots, props to the guy that was Risky posting that round he tried his best too.I'd rather blame it on all the rigging drama dampening the mood but the truth is you're mostly right I think. The way the mood turned against Roll as the field narrowed beyond the E8 gave me whiplash. I personally can't hate Tron regardless
>Time to conquer another land.
>>727317758Don't forget the fact they turned Alex's dad saying goodbye to him into a lofi remix.
>>727317591If only Donald got a few more votes and beat SuperSISSY... we missed the best timeline by an inch.
>>727318001The Duck finale never would've happened, especially after the match already happened and it was a flop. People would openly spite it.
>>727317896the concept is way better than the execution, which is a recurring motif for that whole project, since it plays in alex's home during december, so you're gonna hear the first 20 seconds of the mix like 30 timesshould have put it in the end-of-the-world sequence instead of the crow and the machine, since it's so fucking long
>>727315264This. TF2 has one of the best cast of characters in gaming, they all deserve to have campaigns that reflect it. I mean, Scout is literally God's gift to women, that sounds like ample material for a good campaign.
>>727318191>literally God's gift to women, that sounds like ample material for a good campaign.You would think so, huh? Fucks sake...
>>727318138>Daffy begins to get spited to prevent a literal Duck Match finale>Eddy wins against him and proceeds to win the entire thingNow THAT would've been ______________funny.
>>727318139Batter did do one thing right, the opening of Peper Steak is the best part of the song.
>>727318326>Eddy wins against him and proceeds to win the entire thing*Hank
>new tranny containment eventSo soon? Lucky /v/
>>727316691Etna didn't feel entirely like a campoon pick even. She's actually a lot like Eddy in Mr. /co/. Long overlooked favorite finally getting the break some people were waiting for.
>>727318389Debatable, but Hank vs. Eddy would've definitely been the best finale out of those four possible, which is why I voted for exactly that, although Daffy vs. Hank also would've been servicable.
I don't care about /co/'s problems, I just want /v/ to be good
Already predicting the heavy hitters this year (besides the usual suspects)>William Afton>Zygarde>Gordon Freeman>Kratos>Steve>Someone from Deltarune like Tenna
>>727318139I agree, although I do gotta say the music was over hated most of the tracks aren't really that bad and the fact people talk about the shitty Toby Fox track and never mention the Bo En one is actually infuriating.
>>727318516I feel the same way. But I did have a ton of fun this year campaigning for her, Bazz round included. Queen 2025 is a complicated legacy
I'm not much of a /co/fag but KOTH is a great show and I think Hank much like Etna is overdue for a win, same with Eddy, and it's crazy to think characters like Hank get spiteposted despite being perfectly fine but fucking Spinel and a dinosaur could win. I don't think anything from /v/ is as bad as Spinel.
>>727318628>KratosHe won't pass round 2
>>727318516I get your point, but I can't help but notice that this cancerous mindset, which used to only be reserved to total no-names getting sudden pushes, is slowly starting to seep through onto, as you mentioned, classic, great characters that simply didn't perform too well up until that point.
My HERO? Getting further than his jobber of a sister ever will in Qo/v/
>>727319025Hanks been tot he E8 four times and was a finalist once. Probably the strongest dude not to win yet.Spinel was straight up rigging plus FOTM. Fang I agree was just kind of retarded of /co/.
>>727319102That reminds me: I think it's funny that all Renee fags wanted was for her to get further than Ashley, that's it, but they both wound up eliminated the same round.
>>727319025/co/'s types of quirk chungus and fotm winners are exactly the type of winners I don't want to see in a /v/ contest. Which is why I spite voted Amaterasu both years
>>727319025Didn't the Hank spiteposter admit he did it because he was pissed he won a /tnt/ tourney?
>>727318628Zygarde would be cool but I doubt it would qualify even with the recent release of Z-A.
Where's battler?
>>727319025Hank and Jack have the same problem as Roll and Fio wherein they get to E8 so much that people just get tired of seeing them.
>>727312921You're damn right.Already have OC made for qualies, im sure that won't backfire
>>727319265It was a result they now regret, given Fang's All-Star placement of 6th (only above Spinel and NSA's rigged pick)
>>727319646
>>727319695200 MORE VOTES TO (RECORD SCRATCH)
>>727319695Looks like us SMTbros are of similar mind. Here's hoping the best for both of us.I'm playing SMTV Vengeance for the first time. Legitimately criminal that they let you have Dazai in your party for a collective 10 minutes before yoinking him forever, fuck's sake
>>727319880i modded the game to get both versions in the party permanently if i need them for something
>>727315131Rolandbros....I hope he gets a charles rematch or anyone he can bounce off of R1
>>727319880Aigis did well with barely anything
>>727316336only voting for Greek Kratos
>>727319596>Didn’t [POOPDICKSCHIZO]Cope. Hank is not a hero.
>>727320047Sure, and I'm only voting for OoT Link
I want thematic matchups! I want characters that have reasonable interactions! I also want spamton to not qualify.
>727319529"Chungus dog" is such shamefully old bait
>>727320245I can't believe we still haven't gotten a Mario vs Wario match yet, we were so close last year, too.
>>727320005I kneel Dazaifag, I'll vote for him
I'm betting on at least ONE Dispatch character getting in.I'm putting 20 grand on Robert, Flambae, or Phenomaman.
>>727313221holy trvke i kneel
>>727320316Because it's true?
>>727320105This again?
>727320575>STILL going at it
>>727320456It will happen, in finals
>>727312921Oh god not this shit again
>>727320506Thanks bro, look forward to YT OC when qualifiers startwatch as he doesn't get enough (You)s in nominations kek
>>727320245SOUNDS L1Ke SOMEONE'S GOT A [[Casa de]] MONDAYS.
>>727320765>YT OCI loved that, some of my favorite ones. Thanks anon
>>727320707Would never happen, people would spite against them both for "metahyping finale spots". It can only happen semifinals at the latest. Same reason why Dante vs Vergil wasn't 2020's finale.
>>727318628If the first movie didn't turn Afton into a heavy hitter, then the sequel isn't gonna do shit either.>>727320531Probably just Robert.
>>727320853Finals will be Mario vs Steve, and Mario will win. Trust the plan
>>727321170>Mario, moments before colliding with fat Quote and exploding
>>727320765>watch as he doesn't get enough (You)s in nominations kekHe will, he got one of shenron's wishes behind him
>>727321214>fat QuoteI hate that shit so much
I hope Kris or the soul doesn't qualify.
>>727314149Still Scout as my main. Spy or Engineer are fine by me. I hate that I’ll be busy and unable to campaign to the fullest.
>>727321214Kek
>>727321275You just reminded me, Nigron's wish for good lemons came true. Picked two so far, this was all of the juice that came out of one today.
>>727313221Truth
>>727315495>we got old and became the very thing we used to mock.You just noticed? All the shitty posters are oldfags.
>It's Battler's year this year
>>727314325Shadow Milk Cookie
>>727322157Trust me battler is going to win this year.
>>727316658I didn't get to make anything for Queen (my main got eliminated in round 1 and I took too long on my map delivery), but I am working a few things for King.
>>727312921Yeah.Ready to hide all these containment threads like I do with your kween of v shit.
>>727322157>>727322306quick inspect element shitpost
>>727316658I made some Bazz songs.
>>727319102Extra accounts? Rigged.Jeet army? Redeemed. 4chan pass for easy shitposting? Scammed from some poor schmuck. VPNs and mobile data to get around bans? Prepared. I AM getting out round 1, there's no way you're forcing me to play the piano forever by crowning me as Ko/v/, I don't want this life.
>>727317843>>727313221I can't believe that the tournament was rigged so that a popular character in every single tournament ever hosted beat a character that was less popular in nearly every single tournament.Oh wait.
>>727322306i'd be wary, battlerfagse-celeb played umineko this year, so you'll get both unironic references to that, and the pushback against stupid gossip as well
>>727323451>Implying half of Battlerfags are even Uminekofags and not just TFR secondaries.
>>727323451That would be positive because people would actually talk about the game for once.
>>727314325Kageaki in the qualifiers, just like every year. After he inevitably jobs, probably Verso
>>727323263Verso needs to become King so he can delete the can/v/as
>>727323606I’ll enjoy Kageaki’s sidestory in the tourney as usual.
How bad will King be if Verso is still in and E33 wins the game awards?
>>727323713>picrelholy kino
>>727323864Who?
>>727323864I think all the seethe will be localised in dedicated hate threads and it won't affect the tourney much.What I think would be funny is see /co/ seethe if Verso were to win, yet another thread favourite FOTM winner.
Gentlemen... Behave.
>bitching about kingsyou lost faggot, next time have a pick that matters.
>>727324157Before I started Muramasa, I thought Kageaki was going to be some sort of eccentric Kamina type character with Yuhi being his Simon. But oh well you know what happened.
GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING /v/! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Bubsy (yes, Bubsy THE Bobcat) getting sworn in as the 7th King of /v/! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming 2025 Finals results when Bubsy walks into the spotlight!>H-HAH! /TNT/ROONS SAID HORNET WAS WINNING QUEEN NO PROBLEM! THEY WERE FINALLY WRONG! BUBSY ISN’T WINNING SHIT!!!!!“No!”Yikes! That’s a large assumption. How can one “questionable” prediction instantly invalidate a history of success? Unlike your “awesome crocodile” K.Roolcucks, Bubsy has a lot more support distribution among other voter groups. Ever heard of the silent majority? And while you’re busy obsessing over /tnt/ITANS, care to explain how the Hornet victory that /tnt/ predicted was only prevented by a massive confirmed rigging scandal? Seems a bit suspicious if you ask me!>b-but K. Rool has a good history with King! He’s qualified every single time, it's his year, he's gotta win!“No!”Sorry, K. Roolfags, but the 90s platformer rep is taken by yours truly! Why would /v/ choose a shitty scalie barafag fatfag SOItendo nostalgiaslop "surprise" "villain" character over CHADtari's actually original reimagining of a cult classic? The seed placements have also been confirmed to be “surprisingly promising” according to the hosts, so I’m afraid your years of crying for K. Rool are going to be subverted once again with the reveal of our favorite undercat! But feel free to continue your denial. Your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter!
>>727324224There's some real irony deflecting to /co/, while posting a whitelisted /lit/ character.
>>727323550I don't want to talk about Umineko though.Much better if people read it first.
>>727324535Gold!
>>727324535Hmm. Erm, methinks this post is...Mold?
>>727324535Bubsy winning would be pretty funny... I think it would be funnier if he beat Mario and sonic though.
>>727315131>lol&get back in the cage
>>727313862Klonoa actually just won the /trash/ tournament, ironically
>>727324739Why is she in Muv-Luv
>>727325098She's a rapist.
>>727325078And you know this, because..?
>>727325078They fucking COOKED the road runner...
>>727324346I went in mostly blind but I did know that Kageaki was the main protagonist. Was wondering wtf was gonna happen to Yuhi the entire first chapter. I was shocked when the blind guy showed up out of nowhere later to torment him.
>>727325484Good, always hated that stupid ass bird.
Some of my daughter's voters had to die, but that is a sacrifice I was willing to make to ensure my victory
>>727312921>no new voting systemwhy even bother
>>727314325its his yearfor qualification
>>727324289WE
>>727326089WUZ
>>727325484>twice in a row, Playboy got more and better art than Playgirllmao
>>727320825Maybe it’s time for other UT/DR characters to take the wheel…
>>727326462>RalseiIn another universe maybe
Can't wait to nominate the roaring knight for king.
>>727327247She has fat tits
>>727323386Nobody claimed she's not popular. That said, she'd never made E8 before this year either. Would have been nice if her path to winning demonstrated her popularity and wasn't mostly sleepwalk but we take what we get
>>727325654>implying he will make it with a short name such as "The Pale King"will get mugged by the Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful Grey Prince Zot
>>727312921Wheres kiryuWheres snake
>>727315743TRVTH NVKE
>>727325484Everyone tops except Mao who is clearly bottom.
>>727324545Funny... because that's exactly what a /co/ tourist would say...
>>727327787>Kiryusleeping>Snakein a box somewhere
wouldn't it be funny if we use the third Mario slot now available to get Birdo qualified?
>>727328452>KiryuI will always regret that it didn't happen
>>727328520Impossible because Birdo is female, and the obsession with that obsolete NES manual is unhealthy
>>727325078The gay porn tournament. Call it what it is.
>>727313738>still gets threads on /v/ dailyIn what fucking world
>>727314325IT'S HIS YEAR. MY BOY'S GETTING HIS CROWN.
