Hows your cycle going? did you reach DLC3 yet?
>Got ending B, C, and D in black souls 1 (can't get A since matchgirl died ages ago>Reading Alice in wonderland to prepare for Black souls 2>Alice keeps bringing up her pet cat Dinah, and how it often eats animals. Spooking the residents of wonderland into leaving.Quite the airhead, this Alice. I only start started and she has already done this three times. Once with her cat, the second time with her neighbors dog and then her cat again.
My delicious wife Dodo.
Tries to suck imprison you and suck you dry in her endingPrevents you from continuing in ending D forcing you to kill herWhat the fuck is her problem?
>>727541927How do you even pronounce Dinah? Deena? Dyna?
Finished re-reading Alice's adventures, hoping to finish Through the looking glass by tomorrow so I can start BS2 during the weekend. Revisiting some childhood memories was a lot more fun than I expected.>>727541927Alice is the silliest of little girls. The whole scene at the beginning with the key and the small door where she's too busy thinking of how she should apologize to her feet by sending them boots every Christmas to actually focus on her objective is peak Alice.
>>727543091"D-na"
>>727541927I read this one essay about how Alice in about this cycle of predators and prey, with Alice being the predator. Didn't strike me as interesting as the mathematics theory, but if this passage stood out to you it might be worth checking out.Source: Nina Auerbach, Alice and Wonderland: A Curious Child. Available here https://annas-archive.org/md5/803a4cc2631ca4913253099e7b42e717
You guys actually read books?I thought everyone was joking about that.
/v/ - Literature
>>727543306If you go by IQ these threads are in the top 5% compared to the average.
Who? Alice?I dont know any Alice.
Got any particular favorite books (you) would care to recommend?
>>727540903>hate jumpscares>mfw DLC3 first areastill better than the serpents curse at least
poor bill
>>727543997 You are brave and strong, your soul more tenacious than you may think. No matter what fear or malice comes for you, it cannot kill you. Your conviction is true, and as long as you don't give up it will sweep away any fog of nightmares and give you the power to keep advancing. ...However, if you find yourself tired, there's nothing wrong with seeking solace in the embraces of the heroines. Rest your feet for now, and one day you will conquer any challenge before you, that is what I believe.
>>727543968Berlin Alexanderplatz, very underrated. What I like is how it uses modernist experimentation, but doesn't sacrifice emotional stakes in the process, the ending hits HARD.The protagonist also has some funny parallels with Grimm like meeting the sister of his ex-gf (whom he killed), mistaking her for the ex-gf and raping her. Right after getting out of prison.
>>727543847What happened to Lorina after Lewis Carroll got kicked out of Alice's life by the Dean? I'm surprised she never tried to chase after him.
>>727544878>Sign by Dodo that says go this way>its actually the right waySMARTEST birb
thoughts on Lizard Bill?
>>727547436Disgusting faggot
>>727545536and the sweetest one toohow can the other birbs even compete?
>>727543968could hardly go wrong with Vampire Hunter D kino
>>727545536That actually threw me off. I went the other way because there was no way she wasn't a bumbling retard. Alas, a retard is me.
would've thought turning up the difficulty would do a lot more but after picking up chaos blast even GG9 was stomped...now I'm bored
>Want to do my first rape-run>Remember Bill exists
>>727550334You can turn H scenes off
>>727550260Now it's time to level up
>>727550334>picbringing up positively ancient memories of browsing hentaifoundry as a teen
>>727550560perhaps it's time to create my own story...
>>727550416 I know, but it feels... incomplete without the full degeneracy. It's like eating dry toast when you know butter exists.
>>727551136spoiler that shit
>>727550334It was always a slippery slope.
>>727552194More of a white and sticky slope.
>>727540903>did you reach DLC3 yet?I thought the uncensored steam release didn't have DLC3 yet, only DLC1-2?
>>727553061Dodo...
>>727540903Red's game fucking when?I NEED the knot
>>727541063Safe MGQ is Deltarune
>>727543847>the screen glitch on her card sex scenesomehow that made me cum buckets
Goose is the only girl who wasn't a total slut and only has sex with you after entering a legally binding verbal engagement contract.
>>727553804>literal jewno thanks
>>727553804
Unis insulted my izzat
>>727540903I came to that damn bratty oyster...
Anyone else use the Heroic Vorpal Sword against Abominable Evil jabber? That was so fucking satisfying
>>727542564imagine the flavor
>>727555036>another small fry unc owned by oyesterssy
>>727555125I see it.
>>727555436its artistic nude
Bander is underutilized.
>>727555796She doesn't like sick pedophiles like you
>>727555894What about healthy pedophiles?
>>727555796>robin hood quote.png
>>727542758You posted the wrong Victoria
>>727556045If you used anything from that picture you did not beat the game
>>727555125how did she get so big
>>727557596Post your unnamed no skills no magic SL1 run then sister.I'll be waiting.
>>727543810This game is a midwit repellent, for better and for worse.
>>727543968The Doll by Prus.It's like Great Gatsby if it was good.
>decide to rape Gerda the next time I meet her since she walked away>next time I see her she gave me naizuri and leftDamn was a sweetheart....still going to rape her next time
>>727555125
>>727543968https://files.catbox.moe/wtrfda.pdf
>>727559738this looks pretty cool, thanks :D
You bous ain't sinnin are you?
>>727561928So there's no way Black Souls 3 ends without a Lindamaea team up and tag team move right?
>>727562495This but Helkaiser
>>727562495It would be a waste without it
Post your favorite scribblekinos
>>727562495Near the end you fight him as phase 1, then Jabber forma final shows up. He acknowledges the bigger sinner and at least for that moment, our objectives alignI would cum
Sleepy thread
I finished the nursing graveyard finally. The jumpscares are over now right?
>>727565821HAHAHA, no.
>>727566004AAAAAAAAAHHHH
How do I survive Crushing Depths? Shit just punches through my Requiem. Haven't tried it yet, but I assume it punches through Grit as well.
>>727565821Its over, you have a brief respite.
>>727563417I love MayMay!
>>727566190That song is kino, fast version is even more
>>727566190Who the fuck were they?
>>727566758Action figures, but she likes to call them dolls
>>727566436All of the songs for GG are kino, but the first song being the non-slowed version was the best choice. Shame the violin song had to be replaced.
>>727563417I have a particular weakness to the DLC images
For GG phase 2 what are people doing to circumvent the 100% attack drop? I know about stuff like spells and jabberwocky which I had to use for a different fight but was watching some sl1 runs and people are just absolutely blasting through it.
>>727568285Hammer does a percentage of health in bonus damage, like how Chaos Blast still nukes enemies with the Kishingatana despite it lowering magic to the point where normal spells do nothing
What if Grimm became an alcoholic?
>>727570024What do you think the golden mead is anon? Diet Coke?
>>727570208By having access to not just mead and wine but other alcohols, his power will skyrocket
>>727570208No, don't be silly. It's clearly Mountain Dew.
>>727570208golden mead is garbage, Match is better
>>727570539Madness Mountain Dew?
>>727570581Which Match flavour do you prefer, fairy or prostitute?
>>727570208Alice's pee?
>>727570667I prefer fairy, it has an unlimited supply too!
>>727540903Any other Alice games to play? I got all the achievements and did DLC3 again.
>>727570735Maybe but it takes a lot of time to gather the amount of raw ingredients.
>>727570796That's what Grimm and anti-fairy are for
>>727570208I assumed it was old god piss
>>727570756Madness Returns is a popular choice. (The Steam version technically also comes with the first game inside the game files but you need to do a bit of tinkering to be able to play it.)
>>727570024>What if Grimm became an alcoholic?Basically what if Mabel started hanging way too much with Grimm.
>>727570756Monster Girl Quest
Post Jubjubs
>>727563417My beloved crazy bird>pic is md5 filteredfuck cuckchan
>>727572374
>>727572374Don't trust themIn the end, only Alice will be left on this planet
>>727572670That's silly, Alice needs old men to propagate anyway. Therefore the natural conclusion is the world will be full of old men and Alice.
>>727572670Is that really such a bad thing?
>>727572670No wonder it's called wonderland then.
>>727573130Absolutely terrible (lol)
>>727543968Don't know if the english translation is any good but Röde Orm/The Longships. Really good shit
>>727566030Doesn't CD remove buffs?Reapply or stun the fucker
>>727566030Evasion is the appropriate way to not die there, not Requiem or Grit
all this time I thought royal tea was just people saying royal mead but under a different translation but holy shit royal tea
>>727575236I'm not fully convinced it's not a mistranslation of loyal tea
I did it, I finally got the Heartbroken ending.What now?
>>727575338It's absolutely meant to be a pun. Royal Tea/Loyal Tea/Loyalty all sound the same. >>727575236It's ロイヤルティー in japanese. The translation is correct, the pun just doesn't directly translate unless you know L and R are the same thing in japanese.
Finally finished DLC3, still a couple of more achievos to get and the other half of Winterbell to do (I picked the lion first), some NPC quests and a LOT of raping. I'll do the rest over the weekend but I pretty much spent everyday this week playing until 1am as a wagie. DLC3 really did bring the whole thing together.Not much I want to blogpost that other people havent already. Probably one of the best recent gaming experiences I've had, Baldr Sky will still be the peak though and I also didnt really like all the jumpscares in the last parts. I did grind out the challenge out of DLC3 by hanging out in the Chaos Dungeon a bit too long. I dont know what half of the phases of GG even do, I just know Black Slash goes brrrr after phase 2.I do one one lore question though related to the ending. So the Alice that saves us is Prickett and Prickett is I think some part of TCO thats actually not evil, maybe the part that actually developed into something that could understand love. But the interaction at the end between Grimm and Prickett has that line that says he'll return for her "And we’ll reunite as lovers once more". Is that Caroll-Grimm speaking to Alice cause the Alice we've been chasing was just TCO messing with us? I guess in Ending H Alice's Soul is still trapped in there? I'm not a very smart person so bear with me hereBS3 when, this isnt over yet
>>727575613get the Hell ending
>>727562495Black Souls 3 will have a Lindamea sex scene after it's revealed she was a female all along.Trust me on this.
>>727575867also I thought you had to have the Prickett ring equipped because of that message since that was the same with the Chesire Cat ring hint
>>727572039I know that when everyone beats the dlc JubJub will become widely beloved.
>>727575985Why not both?
I know that when everyone beats the dlc Leaf will become widely beloved.
>>727565821>jumpscares>nursing graveyardI only remember "Lady of the Lamp" chasing you (non-lethal).The regular enemies were supremely annoying, but that's about it.
>>727572039Best girl.I have no idea what her covenant does because I can't not rape her on sight.
>>727543968Atlas Shrugged. Real masterpiece
>>727577059The VN segment can have some spooky bits too depending on what route you end up on.
>>727577676This is fake, grimm would be fucking her while he fends off the cops.
honestly pretty impressive it took this long to spot a typo
>>727563417
>>727543306I read Alice in Wonderland ages ago and I also watched the old stop motion movie, would thoroughly recommendI never read Through the Looking Glass though
Was this picture ever explained? My guess at the time was that it was a picture of an older Alice.
>>727580353No, but I'm 99% sure it's not actually related to Lewis since he doesn't recognize it at all. We know the other authors went through similar mindbreaking bullshit like he did, so I'm pretty sure it's related to one of them.
>>727543968Robert Aickman stuffNachtstücke by HoffmannAmbergris by Vandermeer
>>727577059there's one for moving when you're not supposed to and one for backing out of F5
>>7275783654 years every day has heavy implications for a typo and genuinely is not out of place when dealing with Garden nonsense
>>727581336I was talking about 'you' instead of 'your'I guess removing the 'is' could work as well
>>727581503I know but that's pull the level stuff, 4 years every day threw me off
>>727575867>So the Alice that saves us is Prickett and Prickett is I think some part of TCO thats actually not evil, maybe the part that actually developed into something that could understand love. But the interaction at the end between Grimm and Prickett has that line that says he'll return for her "And we’ll reunite as lovers once more". Is that Caroll-Grimm speaking to Alice cause the Alice we've been chasing was just TCO messing with us? I guess in Ending H Alice's Soul is still trapped in there? I'm not a very smart person so bear with me hereThe timeline goes like this. Alice Hargreaves makes a wish and it reaches TCO (Nyarlathotep), which causes it to kidnap both Alice and Charles Dodgson (Lewis Carroll). Once it does, it sends a fragment of itself (Alice-01) to keep reenacting the events of the book together with Charles. There, Alice-01 fell in love with Charles. That's the original tea party the movie in Queensland talks about. But because:>Charles himself made a wish back on Earth, which reached Mary Sue>Alice-01 made a fatal wish which allowed Mary Sue in (Prayer Master is a red herring and didn't influence Mary Sue entering)Mary Sue goes in, steals Charles, mindbreaks him (the DLC3 VN scene is Grand Guignol reenacting Mary's original mindbreak) and puts him inside the Grimm amalgam. Then, she explodes Alice-01 right in front of Grimm's eyes at the beginning of BS1. Of course, TCO can't really die so Alice-01 is later punished by the main body by making her become Prickett.Back to BS1. TCO has been receiving feedback from Alice-01 and grew addicted to human love, the endless Alice chase. So when Charles got stolen, it got furious. It breaks into Mary's Garden with the help of Baphomet and Grimm (ending D), steals Grimm away, imprisons Mary and begins its own tea party, a fucked up Alice in Wonderland reenaction where Grimm fucks his niggermen daughters to produce more daughters he'll fuck for the upcoming war
>>727575867>So the Alice that saves us is Prickett and Prickett is I think some part of TCO thats actually not evil, maybe the part that actually developed into something that could understand love. Yes, the Alice there is Prickett, if you go into the ending without having Prickett's ring at all it cuts short much like how Leaf's ring extends the character endings in BS1, and you can see Prickett's silhouette calling out (You)r name before it cuts out, but the deal with the player name in the series is a whole other fucking can of worms entirely.Prickett was the one that played the role of Alice back during the Tea Party (referred to as Alice 01 by some) and was the Alice at the start of BS1, and as such is the part of TCO that understands love the most due to her own personal experiences with it. The rest of the TCO hivemind doesn't seem to have this same luxury, apparently sharing the feelings that Prickett had experienced but not the understanding surrounding them.>Is that Caroll-Grimm speaking to Alice cause the Alice we've been chasing was just TCO messing with us? I guess in Ending H Alice's Soul is still trapped in there?Open to interpretation. My interpretation is that Lewis is gone from the collective in the scene we see there due to timeline bullshit, with that scene there taking place in a merged post-G timeline, and with Lewis and Alice's souls having returned to reality thanks to the aforementioned events of G. Timeline merging is also a bit of a fucking mess to explain though, just understand that it's what happened when you tried to leave the garden in G and spontaneously appeared back inside of the garden.
>>727580353I hope it's Beatrice. Divine Comedy stuff would be giga kino.
>>727581689The upcoming niggerman war is covered in detail in a loredump by Yog-Sothoth (Mabel) in the Chaos Dungeon lore dump.Back to BS2. TCO's play has been going on for at least 63 cycles (we're on cycle 64 when we start BS2 IIRC). In the meantime, TCO went insane and lost itself in the role of Alice, and this caused many niggermen (like older sister Alice, one of the 4 nightmares hastily replaced by Lorina). The cycles kept deteriorating until Prickett, Mabel and Node concocted a plan to get Grimm out. In Ending G, Charles finally reunites with real Alice's soul, we see his soul leave Grimm's body, but he has an additional shackle placed on him in the form of Grand Guignol, who can just reset the timeline if Grimm escapes. So we start DLC3, where Grimm escapes through a different Garden (Crimean Nursing Graveyard), beats GG and finally escapes with the help of Prickett. I'm unsure if there's a timeline merge (a term used by Mabel after the VN) here, meaning that Alice Hargreaves and Lewis Carroll are free like after ending G, or if he's still stuck with Grimm. Note that some of the stuff I said is speculative and contentious, in particular the Lewis-Grimm order. Some lorefags and the Japs believe that it was Grimm who was in the original tea party with Alice-01, but I have no idea how that's meant to work timeline-wise.
>>727582160>I'm unsure if ... Alice Hargreaves and Lewis Carroll are free like after ending G, or if he's still stuck with Grimm.I think DLC3 having "Alice" dialog options is meant to show that Carroll is still there.
>>727582160>or if he's still stuck with Grimm.the fact you can do ending G again and see him walk off with Alice a second time means he's stuck as long as Grimm is
>>727540903I'm starting DLC3 later today. I've done everything you can do before it I'm pretty sure.
>>727581689>Alice Hargreaves makes a wish and it reaches TCO (Nyarlathotep)Alice in G says she was just sleeping, we never see her make a wish in the memory flame or hear her mention making one in G.>(Prayer Master is a red herring and didn't influence Mary Sue entering)Every source we have across both games points out his involvement in it, including him. The most you can say is that Prickett also shares in the blame, not that she's solely responsible.>Of course, TCO can't really dieTCO can die, almost every niggerman can die hence why Mabel is wanting Grimm to revive some of her niggermen in the future. We do actually kill it in G's timeline, it just doesn't stick thanks to GG's bullshit yanking us into a timeline where G never occurs.>and begins its own tea party, a fucked up Alice in Wonderland reenaction where Grimm fucks his niggermen daughters to produce more daughters he'll fuck for the upcoming warYes, but it's pretty important to note that for TCO the war isn't something they actually care about, they were just using Grimm as the carrot on the stick to draw other niggermen to take part in TCO's endless love play.>>727582160>In the meantime, TCO went insane and lost itself in the role of AliceTCO's still in full Alice mode for BS1, I think it's fair to assume that they were already more than lost in the role by then.>but he has an additional shackle placed on him in the form of Grand Guignol, who can just reset the timeline if Grimm escapesIt's more of a secondary effect of Grimm having a soul bond with GG that causes his ass to be tossed into another garden timeline than anything GG actively does on its own part, Grimm cannot leave the garden where the Power to Change resides in without it.
>>727583065>we never see her make a wish in the memory flameHow do you interpret this passage then? Particularly the enthralled by the stars part. Is it meant to be taken literally rather than metaphorically?What caused TCO to start the original tea party?>TCO's still in full Alice mode for BS1, I think it's fair to assume that they were already more than lost in the role by then.IIRC TCO was still relatively clear in its speech in ending D, while by the time BS2 ends it's a bumbling mess. But I haven't played the game in years, so I might be misremembering stuff.
>>727582693I have that play time and I'm still on loop 1. SL1 is a bitch.
>>727582373>I think DLC3 having "Alice" dialog options is meant to show that Carroll is still there.Lewis is present during the main part of DLC 3, but 99% of DLC 3 also takes place in the "distant" past according to the Chaos Dungeon. It's the bit after GG that's up for debate, as you have a post-G Red holding onto Grimm with one arm on the cliff, and post-G Jabber/Jubjub/Bander in their Alice vessels.>>727582595>the fact you can do ending G again and see him walk off with Alice a second time means he's stuck as long as Grimm isNot quite. Red is a good example to use as a comparison here, because even though her "canon" pre-H ending for BS2 is her being outside in reality thanks to the events of G (and thus she never actually enters Wonderland beyond the Little Girl's Nightmare), the in-garden timelines don't seem to care about this as long as the garden is still standing and the cycles are ongoing. By the time we meet Red in Lutwidge on a normal cycle, G has already transpired in another timeline and Red is outside of the garden, yet the Red inside of the garden doesn't disappear at all, in fact she's present for the entire game, all thanks to the cycle point being set to a time where she's already present inside of the garden. BS1 operated similarly with Red's personal ending resulting in her leaving the garden and how she'd suddenly vanish after summoning her for BS1 D's fight with Shub, along with her having no apparent knowledge of D. Likewise BS2 Red should have no knowledge of anything but G (and later H) despite being present inside of the garden in non-G timelines.I believe Lewis's outcome in H hinges on him being intrinsically linked to Grimm's soul in a manner like Grimm is to GG, or not. Given we know the author souls are due to break free when Grimm's vessel shatters and what happens in G I'm inclined to believe he's not.Hopefully this makes any sense at all.
>>727543968You can get away with just reading the first three books but I can easily recommend the entire black company series.
Cloudflare finally back up?>>727583393>How do you interpret this passage then? Particularly the enthralled by the stars part. Is it meant to be taken literally rather than metaphorically?I take it as literal, yes. I believe that Alice was stargazing and ended up falling asleep shortly before shit went down. I feel like if Alice had made a wish then EMMM would have made it amply clear given how many opportunities he has had to do so and with how many others have done so in the series.>IIRC TCO was still relatively clear in its speech in ending D, while by the time BS2 ends it's a bumbling mess. But I haven't played the game in years, so I might be misremembering stuff.TCO's actually quite coherent in the reverse route before you deny it and then fight it. TCO's also fairly coherent in BS1 D too, it's not all SENspeak and blackface all of the time.>What caused TCO to start the original tea party?Prickett calls it simple curiosity while observing, a flight of fancy. Jabber also says she played Cupid between (You) and Alice, which admittedly is a statement open to some interpretation especially given the circumstances surrounding TCO's bloody fall to the Earth and Jabber's own little rape dungeon. I don't know if I'd call it a very good explanation necessarily, but it is an explanation all of the same, coming from people who were there.
>>727582160>escapes with the help of Prickett And Node. And Mabel. Stop downplaying the other members of the trio.
>>727585316is that supposed to be catcher?
>>727585574I think so, it has the all leather outfit that Soulcatcher wears as well as the skull badge that the black company uses in Soulcatchers employment.
>>727585548>Talking about downplaying contributions when Dina's ghost carried your ass on her back all the way to the end
>>727585667>ghostNot really a ghost if she has a sexy new vessel her soul resides in.
>>727540903I saw a trailer for another fan DLC. Looks promising. I just hope this knows how to make the gameplay good too.https://files.catbox.moe/g31od2.mp4
>>727585548>>The cycles kept deteriorating until Prickett, Mabel and Node concocted a plan to get Grimm out.My lore breakdown has some inaccuracies and ommissions, but downplaying the role they played is not one of them. And in the passage you quote I was specifically referring to the final final escape sequence after Grimm cuts off his hand, that was all Prickett.
>>727585748Isn't she only in her body during the boss fight against her?
>>727585667>DinahShe is just Node's pet and assistant.
>>727586080>Isn't she only in her body during the boss fight against her?No, it's just her demonbeast form IIRC.
>>727586141She only appears when you're SEN'd up, she's never physically there
>>727586052>that was all PrickettI disagree. Node and Dinah are fighting there and distracting god fucking knows how many TCO's 'bodies'. I don't think Prickett would have been able to talk to Grimm so smoothly if TCO had been fully focused on him. The Outer God vs the Outer God fight is no joke
>>727586280SEN isn't a representation of what is or isn't actually there, what you pick up at high SEN sticks with you at low SEN and vice-versa. Red also disappears at bonfires when you fuck with SEN, but she's 100% still physically present in Wonderland.
>>727559738Thanks for sharing
>>727562852>>727564091If BS3 has both GRIMM riding Helkaiser as well as Lindamea protecting GRIMM going "he's my prey" I will cum buckets.
>>727586642SEN is madness, when you are at zero SEN you are seeing the world as it is, higher than that causes hallucinations
>>727586741you mean you're just walking straight through rooks in queensland?
>>727586818Course I do, don't you?
>>727586861You don't just walk through things because you don't think they exist otherwise a lot of birds would still be alive right now
>>727586741As Cheshire says herself, sanity and madness aren't so different. High SEN is no less "real" than low SEN is and both have very real effects on the world you see and experience. As for Cheshire, Cheshire died as a cat, but she was also saved by Node at some unspecified point in time, which is where she presumably attained her current vessel for the play as she says she's playing the role of Cheshire to pay Node back for saving her.
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>>727586952You don't think that part might be explainable by one of the three unfathomably powerful Old Gods within like twenty feet of you at that point trying to block you off when you're not as crazy as they want you to be?
>>727587137There are patients in the mental ward that physically cannot touch you at 100 SEN, if you just couldn't see them then they'd be like 0 SEN blood parasitesand Prickett put a SEN lowering camera right at the front of the park
>>727587129Also, Cheshire isn't exclusive to 100 SEN, you can interact with her just fine at 0 SEN in the dungeon. Pretty sure the same holds true for the entirety of DLC 3.
>>727582160>Note that some of the stuff I said is speculative and contentiousI'll add my 5 cents and say that both Alice 01 and 02 are just copies of Prickett. We know that the entirety of ending C was orchestrated by Mary Sue and Prickett doesn't seem to me like someone who would play along with her plan. And there's this answer from a Q&A with EMMM that confirms it Q:アリスの外見を作ったのはリィフ?A:真似たのはリィフだよ。彼女はあくまでメアリィ・スー。二次創作しかできない
Star Dream GazerHand outstretched, I make a wishUpon that sweet sweet shooting starRunning all across the night skyPast rainbow bridges, through cloud whalesI want to send two handfuls of huge heart candiesI'd rather dream,I want to feel them more,Every irreplaceable moment, I spend it with youLaughing, crying, holding each other, always togetherWe vowed to write a new page in our bookTaking a detour side-by-side, to the next galaxyWe'll ride on the orbit of Milky Way
>>727589141I... I have this sudden, irresistible urge to shoot my boss in the ass and then hit him with a rake.
Leaf raped me
I find it downright fascinating how /v/ is still able to discuss the game's lore in-depth, all the while keeping spoiler etiquette, and with minimal shitflinging. 5 years after the game's release. Compare that to how hard Project Moon threads deteriorated, or how E33 threads are all either TGA shitposting and/or the ending shitflinging.
>>727589527giwtwm
>>72758845301 isn't fake, we've gone over this before.Q:アリスの外見を作ったのはリィフ?Was it Leaf who created Alice's appearance?A:真似たのはリィフだよ。彼女はあくまでメアリィ・スー。二次創作しかできないIt was Leaf who imitated her. She is Mary Sue after all. I can only create derivative works.MTL butchery aside, keep in mind how the tea party ended. Prickett ends up splatted. Mary recreates the vessel for Prickett to act in for the start of BS1 before recreating the end of the tea party because the original vessel got fucked. Prickett's soul still exists post-splat, which is important. Like EMMM mentions, Alice isn't an original design of Mary's, she just imitated the original design for use in her own play.Also, hollow puppets cannot perform, they need souls to properly act out their roles, hence why Mary and TCO both use actual fuckers with souls to act out roles in their plays, from the major ones to even the minor ones like the fairies in BS1. We never see actors substituted by puppets either. It's also exceedingly unlikely that Mary pulled anything with 01 like she did with BS1 Victoria either, BS1 Victoria has an entire area dedicated to that fact along with multiple bits of dialogue referencing what happened in both BS1 and BS2 while 01 has absolutely nothing pointing to something like this happening in either game.There's also no reason for GG itself to cite 01 as one of her creators if 01 did not actually exist or was just a creation of Mary's, and saying it was a lie or just bait does not pass the smell test.
>>727589527I want to be raped by Leaf...
I don't really understand how Gods Angel works, am I supposed to just regular attack except for the last few turns and switch to a different weapon and regular attack? I didn't really need it but the end of DLC3 is a bit too hard for me
>>727540903How's the translation for the Steam versions? The trailers and images they threw up for the game on the store page don't make me too confident in the publisher's management.
>>727590931>I don't really understand how Gods Angel works, am I supposed to just regular attack except for the last few turns and switch to a different weapon and regular attack?It builds up one stack per turn if you attack with it that turn, and no you can't build multiple stacks in one turn no matter how many bonus actions you're rocking. It's mainly useful if you're a complete statlet and have the time to burn to build up stacks, otherwise you're better off with Hans most of the time as it has a higher hit count and doesn't need to ramp up at all.>I didn't really need it but the end of DLC3 is a bit too hard for meYou're probably gearing/buffing like shit, or at least sub-optimally.
Have (You) been filtered by DLC3 yet?
>>727591109Oh ok so I'm supposed to just attack once with GA and then regular attack for the other bonus actions(or omnislash or whatever that unavoidable attack skill is)? I fucked up not getting allies for the final boss so ill just restart and try to get them
>>727590041>they need souls to properly act out their rolesThey need souls to have a will, to act on their own, to not be boring. Creators are capable of making automatons that can only repeat what they were designed to do.
>>727591332>Oh ok so I'm supposed to just attack once with GAYes, the effect doesn't care about your currently equipped weapon at the end of the turn as long as you use the normal attack with God's Angels equipped.>and then regular attack for the other bonus actions(or omnislash or whatever that unavoidable attack skill is)?I should start mentioning skills too, because I seriously hope this isn't your actual gameplan for the end of DLC 3. Unless you already have at least a couple of stacks built up you should have better choices than to normal attack with God's Angels, and actually fucking using Omnistrike of all things at this point in the game is astounding. At least use Berserk with the Anchor or something if you want to unga like a dodo.
>>727591109>It builds up one stack per turn if you attack with it that turnman that's such horse shit, I have a hard time believing it would be THAT OP if it stacked with bonus turns.
>>727590982AFAIK it's the exact same for BS2. You'd have lorefags screeching 24/7 if that weren't the case.BS1 is an improvement. Fixes some grammar errors and removes localisation.
>>727591768>Yes, the effect doesn't care about your currently equipped weapon at the end of the turn as long as you use the normal attack with God's Angels equipped.Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I just unga'd with Anchor/ Berserk and buffs/madness unless Omnistrike works better for certain bosses. I looked up guides so I think I have all the eqp/skills/cov to beat the DLC
>>727591967>removes localisationorgasmic phrase if I ever heard one
>>727589535>PMTo be fair it's the gacha's fault.
>>727589535Project Moon threads went down the shitter because >gachaE33 threads weren't organic in the first place.
>>727593142this desu E33 has to one of the most astroturfed games in the decade
>>727593202Who's astroturfing it? E33 is the antithesis of what the modern game industry stands for.
>>727591967>and removes localisationI thought they were both fan translated. What localization?
>>727591687The VN was always just puppets, even when Mary Sue and the Bluebirds were originally torturing Lewis it was just puppets, there were no actual actors there that we know of performing any actual roles. Fuck, they even shoved Lewis into a puppet, fucker still has trauma over that. It's a very limited and very tightly controlled setup where there is no need for actors or acting, unlike a formal play like BS1 or BS2 where you do actually need fucking actors. The opening of BS1 is no exception to this, it is the very start of Mary Sue's play.>They need souls to have a will, to act on their own, to not be boring. Creators are capable of making automatons that can only repeat what they were designed to do.Is the scene where you input Grimm's name at the start of BS1 not a dead giveaway that it's not a mindless puppet blankly repeating whatever Mary Sue wrote? Grimm isn't supposed to remember his name here, he's supposed to have had his memories altered by Mary Sue and say some other bumfuck name. Alice reacts to this and mentions how he remembered, starts to say something about herself before Mary splats her, followed by Mary wondering how the fuck the memory alteration failed before trying again. That's not according to script at all and I'm sure as shit that Mary didn't add this bit in as part of some intentional design in case shit went off script considering she redoes the entire setup again to try to make sure the play goes off right this time.The non-Grimm name variant also ends with Alice explicitly talking about how her part is over, and how you'll meet again, and it's sure as shit not her that you meet in Wonderland later on as that's 02. There is no fucking chance that this is not Prickett playing the role of Alice here at the start of BS1.
>>727593202
>>727593431uncommon_felines took some BS-exclusive terms and replaced them with Dark Souls ones. Nothing major, just item descriptions.
>>727593431>What localization?Not them, but there's one very minor change to the Master Key, removing a Dark Souls reference and aligning it with how it was translated in BS2 (also by the same translator). I can't actually think of anything else right now, though there's plenty of other minor script edits in the Steam version.
>>727543810So bottom 30% of the general population?
>>727593638>>727593554Good to know then, thanks. Sounds like it's worth a buy.
>>727593554wtf? they do betray!
I've read trough all the black lines, but I still somehow fail to comprehend certain nuances.So what's the exact fate of each Alice, the original soul, 01, 02 and whatever else is there. Starting from before the game events and up until GG. I guess a short writeup on each would be enough.
>>727595118>AliceAlice Liddell (real)'s soul presumably leaves the garden due to the events of G. Even if she somehow doesn't leave in G, there's nothing that should be containing her soul in H with the complete destruction of GG and the garden, so it should still work its way back to her original body unless it somehow died during all of the chaos, in which case it'd return back to the cosmos. We see very little of her directly in BS2, it's primarily from the memory flames and meeting her in the white space in G.>the original soulNot sure who you mean by this.>01, 02Pairing these together, 01 is said by 02-A in BS1 to have been the first Alice that we met, to have made 02 before her death, and that 01 was the original Alice. BS2 expands on this with a line from the Alice Doll in Oxward about how 01 created it, this ties in with multiple lines of dialogue throughout the rest of the game and DLCs, and culminates in Prickett = Red Queen (which we know from Prickett stating it herself) = 01 due to the Alice Doll (02-D) actually being Grand Guignol in doll form, and the Chaos Dungeon specifying that GG was created by the Red and White Queens (Prickett and Node respectively).>and whatever else is thereThat's a lot of Alices to go through bro.
>chillaxing>proper chillaxing listening to quiet bgm with eyemask on>cat parks on laptop keyboard >hits play key>high volume video of lion unicorn GG phase violin screeching at the end unpausesfuck
>>727595985I actually like violin ear rape.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp3BlFZWJNA
>>727595985Based kot
Anyone tried the fanmade dorothy DLC? Journey of Wind and Memory
>>727586605prickett
>want to do all achievements>need to do nursing graveyard again
>>727597160Yes. It's dogshit. Actually, dogshit is an overstatement, there's some completely fucking pants on head retarded design decisions that I still cannot believe even made it past the thought phase. Also Dorothy is basically an afterthought and the Fluffies are basically just glorified item dispensers. There's an actual fangame from the same guy that tries to unfuck/follow up on Wind and Memory to somewhat mixed results, though I will admit that I ended up enjoying it much more than I ever did Wind and Memory. I haven't really kept up on it beyond playing a demo release near the start of the year though.>>727597489It's pretty quick to run through, just remember to kill the patients in the lobby if you're shit at juking enemies.
>>727577059>The regular enemies were supremely annoying, but that's about it>enemies almost all have requiem>dispel only works on some of them>otherwise you have to survive their gimmick until they kill themselves>enemy sprite doesnt die when they're killed, only stunned>one enemy can see you even if you are invisiblepeople werent kidding about Tweedledum being the best covenant for DLC3
>>727597585>dispel only works on some of themIf they evaded it, use Absolute Precision.
>>727597628that or mary wand bonk
>>727581293>and one for backing out of F5That one legit got me
>>727577059what's with lamp ghost anyway? florence's madness popped out to go haunting because she's too much of a good girl to directly give in to it?>>727581293how do you back out of F5?
don't tell me that man
Why does russia have a large rpg maker playerbase https://youtu.be/nk-a2cFn6u0
>>727597552Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, this is where the traps are. If you hated the desert in BS1 or the Frigid Outskirts knockoff in BS2, this is a million times worse, now with added frame drops, lag, and bullshit cryptic quest objectives. If you really want to get a grasp on how fucked the size is, look at the 1 on this map real quick.
>>727598190Visit this area at 100 SEN
>>727598323This is where 1 is. This map also loops upon itself to add insult to injury.
>>727598323yeah fuck this place in particular, the dev also acknowledged that this place is buggy as hell. i played the dlc in my android and it kept crashing every 3 minutes or so being in this place. traps everywhere that would teleport you to these pocket dimensions and no hints as to where to find those shards.
>>727598498>traps everywhere that would teleport you to these pocket dimensionsOr into buildings that you had no choice but to bone out of.
how do you save Mabel?
>>727582160>>727581965thanks for the responses I'm just wondering in theoretical BS3 situation in which Grimm does come back in full force to rescue Alice, what exactly is our motivation for Alice, followng that line I mentioned in ending H? Just Grimm + Alice01 that fell in love with eachother if we can hope that Carol and Alice got their happily ever after? It feels very slay the princess esque in that way and I can just leave it at that.
>>727598714Mabel lives on with you in spirits.
>>727595884Yeah the practical distinction between Alice Liddell (real, that got sucked into gardens together with Lewis) and "Alice 01" as characters is what confuses me really hard.So what events led to original tea party?Which Alice was at the original tea party?Which Alice black rabbit got jealous about, leading to said Alice's demise? What happened to that dead Alice after?Also do we ever meet 02-A after BS1?
>>727598714It's ok Anon, she'll be back.
>>727599061I always thought it was Alice Hargreaves making a wish and Alice-01 (Prickett) participating in the tea party but >>727583065 says this is not necessarily the case and now I'm confused.
>>727598934At this point into the plot Grimm has enough motivation to save or "write back" every girl that suffered from ongoing events, in any capacity.I don't think we need any motivation from events prior the game, like souls or IRL love, for this cause anymore. "Our" Grimm saw enough suffering already, and with how BS2 ended, BS3 kind of feels like a "counterattack" part of the story.Like NG+ in Astlibra, when protagonists go "fuck it, we ate enough shit already, no time for doubt or despair - time to risk fucking up everything even more to try properly, and save everyone."
>>727599458I'm going to Anulis.
cant wait for BS3 in 20 years after nuclear winter cause some rich nigger's line started going down
>>727598714Mabel basically jumped the ship before she got too immersed and became an issue for Grimm in a same way TCO overstayed and got Alice'd. We will probably see her once she somehow "resets" the immersion, probably by picking a different role next game.Will it be same Mabel or not is a really difficult philosophy question.
>>727599679I always found it rather amusing how obsessed MC was with Anulis for how small we knew about her good sides. Really gave off Alice obsession wives.Like I understand that author decided to just not elaborate on it, and make protagonist's love purely an established character trait (without attempting to make player 'love' Anulis), but from the player perspective, given all the gorgeous women thowing themselves at him, it really hit a bit different.
>>727555125>>727555746Sauce for both
>>727599918I mean to be fair, if he hadn't actually gone after Anulis and gotten a good outcome, everybody would be getting fucked up the ass by aliens.Astlibra was such a ride. Everything about that game was masterful from the plot twists to the combat evolving over the game to the ultimate payoff. I wish I could play that game all over again blind like the Black Souls games.Baker's daughter sequel game for that hook on gaiden never. Shame the guy said he's basically done.
>>727598714you cant ;_; but dont worry, eldritch gods have a tendency to come back. be sure to join her in drinking in winterbell
>>727598323>added frame drops, lag,that shit still gets me killed on the swinging axe room. If I see that in chaos dungeon I just skip
>>727600176I am more concerned that we may not even get BS3 because we are still somehow don't have DRH (probably all the payment fuckery not helping) and we are one full game away from even beginning of BS3 development.Like holy shit, even if by some miracle he finishes BS3 - not all of us will make it.Also who the fuck asked for princessess, really. Despite having a somewhat important role in BS1 they are basically irrelevant on grand scale of things, and I can't say I saw many fans here either.
>>727599061>So what events led to original tea party?That's still a bit of a mess and left somewhat unexplained, I believe it's been intentionally done so thanks to DLC 3 further adding to the idea that there's some majorly important information in our past that's necessary for saving the universe. We know some parts right now, like how the blood raining down in the memory flame there is from TCO and how TCO's fall to Earth seems to have been caused by a god (niggerman) hunting Ghoul (pic related for a still incomplete version of that, I need to finish this shit eventually), the fact that TCO was searching for love, their observing apparently being the result of a flight of fancy, and Jabber having an unspecified role in how it all shook out pairing (You) and Alice together and so on. However it's certainly not the full picture. For Mary's side of things, Jabber's monologue in the reverse route pretty much spells it out.>Which Alice was at the original tea party?01, AKA Prickett as we know her in BS2.>Which Alice black rabbit got jealous about, leading to said Alice's demise? What happened to that dead Alice after?Still 01/Prickett, go see Tea Party for Three in Queensland if you haven't yet. As for what happened after, my basic understanding is that Alice's soul was taken by Mary Sue for use in Mary's own little play, along with many of the other denizens and surroundings.>Also do we ever meet 02-A after BS1?Not that I know of.>>727599245Alice (real) making a wish, while it would make sense with her own unresolved feelings on the matter, is still something that hasn't been shown or mentioned at all that I know of, which is a glaring omission when we see wishes from multiple other parties including Lewis himself. 01 is definitely Prickett, and it was definitely Prickett at the tea party.
>>727600504I suspect this was meant for >>727599682 and not me
>>727599679>I'm going to Anulis.She's a beautiful color.
>>727600739Ah, no, just thought about Astlibra dev being too old for more games, even though he got the recognision he deserves, led me to "BS3 is so far away that it might actually get canned because EMMM would also get a jap cold and won't be able to continue anymore."
>>727600938He's not too old for more games, though. That's not why he said he's done; he just doesn't want to do something ridiculous in scope like Astlibra again.
>>727601352>he just doesn't want to do something ridiculous in scope like Astlibra again.Magicus 2
>>727600674>whole god fall thingWait, werent few "bad" BS1 endings describing similar looking events?And thanks, I've mostly got a 'timeline' in the head now, last question would be..So IRL Alice made a wish, her soul got dragged and.. effectively was put into Alice 01, then whole tea party happened? Or was Alice 01 some sort of IRL Alice recreation already, thus the number? If she was a recreation, where IRL Alice was trough across both games?I am kind of lost here because we know Pricket is a part of TCO, but she is also the one tied to IRL Alice soul somehow..
>>727601352I meant old as in "can't afford to commit this much time due to things that come with age", not because he would literally croak, but yeah you are right.
Why are my covenants dead what the FUCK
>>727601913
>>727601913you got BIRD'd
>>727601913I fucking hate birds.
>>727601913????Best girl is still alive
>>727602124Yeah, Lorina is still there
>>727598058>how do you back out of F5?Just hit back instead of opening the door
>>727601662NTA thats the questions i was asking about Pricket in >>727575867 but I didnt really get the clearest answer, besides up to interpretations because you have to consider ending G too where the Alice soul escapes but its clearly not Pricket. Pricket is Alice 01 so we can assume that Pricket is at least modeled off of her.IRL Alice probably was just floating around inside TCO and escapes in Ending G when TCO got bonked hard. Then Pricket being modeled off Alice just starts falling in love with you/becoming more human like Mabel did and other Outer Gods.Theres also a bunch of vague timeline stuff I'm not going to bother with if the author didnt make it clear themselves, it feels less relevant to the overall picture unless it was specifically a mystery detective game. We fuck girls that look like Alice and sometimes birds
>>727601913You're not actually playing the game you just want (You)'sI'm onto your tricks bucko
>>727602367I exited the menu and rubbed my face on all the walls a few times, I'll have to check again
>>727601662>Wait, werent few "bad" BS1 endings describing similar looking events?You're probably thinking of Glinda's diary that you can summon Dorothy for (and possibly Catherine's ending, but I'm hazy on it outside of Shub getting summoned in it as well). Sort of, but not quite. Glinda's diary describes the sky turning red and the world breaking in my old pirated version, as opposed to blood raining from the sky and monsters filling the streets. Maybe the Steam version has some updated translation for it, but I haven't played through the Steam version enough to get to it. Although this is also one of the few times you can actually see TCO outside of D I don't think it's supposed to be the same kind of event that we see in that memory flame in BS2.>So IRL Alice made a wish, her soul got dragged and.. effectively was put into Alice 01, then whole tea party happened?My current assumption is that Alice didn't make a wish as it's never stated that she made one, even if it's something that would add up with her feelings. Alice (real) and 01/Prickett are two entirely separate beings, it might have helped if I put quotation marks around original Alice back when I was describing 01/02's shit since it's meant in the context of the garden niggerman LARPing rather than reality itself. Prickett is the original Alice actor, think of it like that. But yes, the original tea party follows the events of that last memory flame, Tea Party for Three picks up sometime after entering the original tea party.>>727602387>IRL Alice probably was just floating around inside TCO and escapes in Ending G when TCO got bonked hard.The white space we see Alice held in during G is related to GG. It's even got its own phase called "Pure White Prison" and it's something other characters like Jack and BS2 Victoria comment on. VN is also implied to take place in this space.
Why is Lindamea so tsun?
>>727597452Bald!
>>727602832Wait so why Alice's soul even caught in this bullshit if she didnt make a wish? Lewis's wish?And where was Alice in all that, just soul stored in.. somewhere, and then in GG-made prison for whatever Alice authenticity-replications reasons?
>>727603197His dere is coming in BS3 when he gets TS'd. Screenshot this post.
>>727603641>Wait so why Alice's soul even caught in this bullshit if she didnt make a wish? Lewis's wish?That's what I'm currently assuming. Again, it's not impossible that Alice did in fact make a wish, her memory flame even parallels Lewis's thoughts and we know he made a wish because of his feelings, it's just that to my knowledge we're never shown her making a wish to a niggerman, while we are shown multiple others doing so over the course of the game.>And where was Alice in all that, just soul stored in.. somewhere, and then in GG-made prison for whatever Alice authenticity-replications reasons?"Somewhere" is probably the best answer I have so far for where she seems to have been stored, GG/The Power to Change either utilizes the white space that's a part of the general garden design, or it flat out makes it itself for the creator to fuck around in. If G and H are any indications (and possibly the VN if we look at the hikki route) said white space seems to be close to the borders of the garden and are close to reality itself, Grimm passes through this space in G to exit to reality and does so again in H.Why is something I can answer a bit better thanks to the useless nigger >>727587129, and some of Node's dialogue. BS2 Wonderland is a patchwork of multiple different gardens that all seem to be held together by a few things.1) The Creator of the garden still existing. TCO's death in G causes a very rapid garden collapse.2) GG still existing. With the destruction of GG, the garden undergoes a very rapid collapse.3) The dreamers responsible for the garden still sleeping. This is one we have Node to thank for, as the awakening of the dreamer the garden is based in is also one of the ways that a garden can collapse (see: Azathoth for this on a much larger scale). My understanding is that it isn't just Grimm's dream keeping Wonderland afloat, but Alice's as well.
Any tips on killing Carnacki? I can't touch the guy
>>727604691Dispel works for a lot of his buffs I think.
>>727604741I tried dispel but he has magic reflect so it just hits me instead
>>727604831bonk with mary wand
>>727604831Uhhhh, try that Ragnarok weapon's dispel then, I don't think it'll get reflected since it's tied to a physical skill.
>>727581293>>727598028Ever since Node Sleeping I was hitting ESC/canceling to all choice pop ups almost by habit just to see if theres any hidden option for not saying anything/doing nothing.It was like 2am when I was doing Nursing Graveyard, I literally felt my heart thump.
>>727604946Thanks, I'm still sucking but that helps a lot>>727604916I had no idea this existed, guess it's dungeon delving time again
>>727604616I'm passing out so if you have any more questions I'm not going to see them until later. I've been trying to explain as best as I can, but shit's fucking complex man.
>>727607189No, you've done a great job, thank you for answers.
how do you respond to this without sounding mad?
>>727607392
>>727607392her covenant seems pretty unique, surely it's worth sacrificing the side chicks for it r-right?
>Doing a rape run>It's 4 AM>I am delirious, dehydrated and losing my mind>Suddenly start seeing popups on area transitions>Scary as fuck>I feel feverish and have to stop playing>Intense nightmaresWhat a fucking ride, I haven't been so scared in a game for... Well, I don't remember.
>>727609025Guys I found Alice!!!!
I'm Grimm
>>727608749Sale shit happened to me after playing void stranger for 3 whole days in a row
>>727608749try drinking water, it's kind of good for you
>>727609434calm down, please lower your SEN before posting.
>>727608749The first time it happened I legit just alt-f4'd the game. Fucking terrifying
>>727608749Just wait till you get to DLC3, shit spooked me harder than many dedicated horror games.Going delirious over a book will fuck you up harder than any game ever could. Don't recommend.
>>727607142>I had no idea this existed, guess it's dungeon delving time againChaos Dungeon trivializes DLC3 as a whole, just so much good shit in there in addition to all the stat padding
Dont look behind
>>727575338It was loyal tea when Victoria made it for you, but you're making it yourself so it's royal.
>>727607753Jubjub's rape scene is so fucking hot it's unreal
>>727609598only a simple memory will remain
Why do the best girls all have only a few H-scenes while some literally whos get a bunch of scenes
>>727610781For me it's being raped by Jabberwock
I played the 1st game like a decade ago and I don't get the appealshould I retry again? I may have gotten an ending and ended in a "dark void area" or something that looked like post-endgame stuff. also an ice palace? I dont remember much elseoh and the "forced" loss dragon at the beginning of the game is piss easy to beat so I cheesed everything with his weapon lol
>>727584817On the subject of Red's interaction with the timeline, it's interesting to note that demonbeast Red is missing her arm
>>727611214BS1 is basically the 15 hour tutorial to BS2. BS2 is just so much more game and mechanics. The black bar meme is because of people discussing BS2 lore and spoilers. Gameplay also gets much more interesting with the emphasis on bonus actions since you only rarely get access to companions/summons until end game. DLC3 (just the name of the update) is probably one of the hardest things Ive done in gaming, granted I dont play action games.I'd definitely just jump into BS2 since you've already BS1, just know that BS2 is a direct sequel and that BS1 really doesnt explain their endings until BS2
>>727611214BS1 lives and dies by its plot twist, that being ending C. You haven't reached that point, so it's no wonder you don't get the appeal.BS2 is actually fun from start to finish, but requires you to beat the first game to understand its story.
>>727611483>>727611454alright ill try replaying it thank you
I think I've died more to Unseen Horses than I have to literal gods in BS2 but I also was too lazy to go back and swap gear
>Enter Mabel realmBASED
>>727609852>Going delirious over a book will fuck you up harder than any game ever could. Don't recommend.Am I at risk if I have a history of hyper-fixating on fantasy works to the point I'm thinking and writing fanfictions in my head half the day?
Hypnos (Niggerman) When?We almost have all Niggerman already
>>727585887Anon what's the name?
>>727612120MAYMAY LOVE!
>>727613169YOUR SOUND IS BROKEN YOU DRUNKEN RETARDED TENTACLER
Girls... don't stay young forever?!SAVE ME MARY SUE I'M GOING INSANE!!!
>>727613213Why is half of catbox always dead so often in recent months?
>>727613284>The little girl wouldn't stay so forever
>>727613213It has nothing to do with the catbox link being dead, it has to do with the userscript breaking due to "muh security" bullshit these web browser devs keep doing,
>>727612371>a history of hyper-fixating on fantasy works to the point I'm thinking and writing fanfictions in my head half the day?t.
>>727613728No, the actual sound links were fucked for a bit. They're back up now lol. Refresh. It was catbox, just does that some times.
>>727613942I got this when i tried uploading the death scream
>>727613942why is catbox so goddamn unreliable latelyi'm considering altering the userscript to try and fetch from the IA if catbox fails
>>727614059Catbox is always under attack.
>>727613026It looks like the guy making hasn't revealed the name for it yet.https://x.com/valadyulian/status/1996020949292888461
Drawing?
>>727543847Great art
>>727614318Big Dodos and Jujubs together if you don't mind.
>>727543847source?
>>727612583Is this not Hypnos?
>>727612583Hypnos is in the chaos dungeon, check the skull after defeating her for reason why.
>>727580353Alice (True)
>>727614318Flesh Wall
>>727613213Works on my maymaychine.
>>727575867Now that I've went back and read the teddy bears and other lore stuff I missed while getting reamed in DLC3, ending H does make a lot more sense to me now Pricket/Alice01 did infact develop closer to human and fall in love with you. The entire Library dream was her attempt to save you after all. And you as the player character also find all of this out if you actually took the time to read random teddy bears in Winterbell. So the relationship you did have as lovers was as real as it gets But also a bit of Caroll and Alice mixed in for sure.. So I do hope we get to save Prickett in BS3(tm) and Mabel
>Can't beat the giant bird in the mental ward>can't be the 3 stooges in the castle (even with the summon)Level 25 and with a +4 or 5 vorpal blade, am I just being a shitter or is there somewhere else I can go?
>>727616197Summon hans. Hans can damn near solo it.
>>727616197Try to reach the Mushroom Forest through the Pond of Bloody Tears.
>>727616197Pond of Bloody Tears? Fuming Forest? Upper Lutwidge? The sewer?
sorry but chaos dungeon is the very definition of slop and you only like it because it's in a game you already liked
>>727616197surely you have gathered few fairy tales by now?take them to library and you get 5 levels per book and that should be enough to carry your dodo ass against Lorina's jobber squad
>>727616456>he requires mabelfag outrage-(You)s for validation
lot more consensual rape than I expected
About a dozen achievements left to get but its kind of annoying that a bunch are cycle exclusives. Fortunately I can just speedrun things now and maybe just watch some Christmas movies while I'm at it
played the red riding wood game and it disturbed mewhy is she ..you just know.. the wolf, i mean, wtf?
>>727617194Because Poro was the only friendly face in the entire world?
Shitter who skip almost all dialog hereSo, is Winterbell's the past and we somehow suckered into past
>>727617515It wouldn't make sense even if you didn't skip it.
>>727617194You just know.
>>727617194Because she is white womanOr worseA Germ
Sword of Enmity worth using?
>>727617760>Or worse>A GermJust because the original fairy tale is from Germany doesn't mean she's German. Otherwise she would be into scat.
>>727617909All the good germans died in the war.
>>727617909>Otherwise she would be into scat.That's an American thing.
Why are cosplay girls invading this fandom?
>>727618713Are they? Got any examples?
>>727541063Enchant Farm is older than Black Souls
>>727618826
>>727540903>have sex with a girl >she kills meWtf?
>>727617194Being fucked by a wolf is such and old tradition in 18+ parodies of this tale, i dont even know why are you surprised
>she fucked a dogproof?>she said sowomen say many things
>>727619071THE HEART
>>727547436RAPE!
>>727619474you literally see the knotting in her game
>>727547436I didn't meaningfully interact with him a single time in all of my playthoughs because I was told he causes jumpscares
>>727617840self mutilation and just swap out but dont need enmity for that
>>727619819you made a good decision
>>727619770been a while since i played BS1, don't remember a bestiality scene I thought these games were vanilla
>>727620345I said in HER game anon
>>727620562oh the upcoming one? haven't checked anything about it yet, dog fucking is degen tho
>>727620345Little-known fact: BS1 is not the dev's first game. It's Red Riding Woods (or was it Red Hood's Woods?). Nobody ever talks about it because it sucks ass and isn't that important lore-wise.
>>727620815get off the internet dodo...
>speedrunning to the Kuti special scene>get caught by the whale>can oneshot him nowget FUCKED. Also its really fun seeing how far you can into the game while avoiding triggering jubjub early
>>727620873I see, the scales have fallen from my eyes
>>727620873the most important lore revelation is that Red literally fucks a wolf
>>727621243Today's supper isu fish. You rike a fish?
>>727598243That's all their PCs can run.
>>727621374I lost interest while waiting for tl and never read the rest of the series
>>727621525I only ever read the first one and parts of the 2nd one. Only the common route was any good tbdesu, it should've remained a comedy series.https://youtu.be/b5YEqCqvVeI?si=qbMjDiWX_GNBPEL4&t=24
>>727621673>comfy common mogs heroine routessee also majikoi, probably others I played but my vn reading days were about 6 or more periods-of-time-could-have-gotten-jouzu-in-s ago
Oh, hell yes.
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE FUCKING WORLD MOTHERFUCKERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoWHsnmdBd0
so i just replay the game and finish ending g so from my understandingthe Lewis and Alice both make a wish and diffrent god answer to them, for lewis its leaf and for alice its nyala, and nyalatophat meld alice into itself to understand love, while leaf combine various author including lewis to make grimm, since in the flashback grimm already loss his memory, so in this case, alice and lewis in the tea party is not entirely themself, right? then the rabbit pray to leaf and grimm get taken away then bs1 happen?
:)
>>727579621Fuck yeah
>>727618907The Japanese release date is irrelevant.The game didn't exist in a real, living language that matters until last year.
>>727614472
>>727623569Thanks for last thread's Lorina. She's a charmer. How about Carnacki?
>>727623569Marvelous.Incredible.Exactly what I was thinking of. Thank you.
>>727614318Prayer Master in a rabbit carry bag held by Vernai's implied Vorpal-descended mom
>>727615615
Griffy is THE worst bird, change my mind
Can I beat one of Leiden or Unis then cycle back and beat the other on the same save?
>>727625486best girl
>>727622368dont tell me this requires grinding chaos dungeon
>>727625987it does...
>>727622368Most of ultimate spells from BS1 are there, yes. Good luck. As well as some auxiliary gear.
>>727626047
Does Mary's Wand have any use
Actually, where the hell is Dispel? I keep seeing people posting about using it, but, even after completing the game to all ends before, I've not seen it anywhere.
>>727626161Dispelling I guess?
>>727626236BillingsgateOr grind Chaos Dungeon
>>727626161Dispels everything? AOE? Duh ofcourse theres lots of uses for it!>>727626236Dispel, de-spellRemoves buffs from enemies even requiem
>>727626161I used it mostly for dispelling requiem and for using requiem to cheese(ghetto black knight ring)
>>727617194Anon, have you never been to Archive of Our Own? Or fanfiction.net ?The (were)wolf fulfills the role of a man preying upon a pretty woman and taking her back to his cave (fortress) where she will be protected while caring for him. Like a "happy" bad ending.
>>727625595>Plenty of Jujub, Dodo, Goose and Chickfags in every thread.>Never spotted even a single Griffyfag>The only time she's ever mentioned is when Lorinafags are seething over her questlineYou might be onto something.
>>727576045Yeah, she became a great character in the end.I went from hating her to understand, respect and love her.
>>727625595>>727627384Griffy has a threesome scene which automatically makes her better than most birids
>>727626646Anon, those are no longer fringe fetishes.
>>727627780Griffy is also the worst part about the threesome scene
>>727616081>So I do hope we get to save Prickett in BS3(tm) and Mabel Excuse me, but what about Node?
The recent resurgence of Black Souls discussions here have me wanting to replay the games.I only have the pirated versions, but considering how much I enjoy the games I want to throw EMMM some money. Are the Steam versions worth it? Steam will probably take their cut, but it's better than nothing plus rerunning the games with achievements to complete as I do sounds fun
>>727628314Buying on DLsite will give them a bigger cut, if you can
>>727628283this, mabel is gonna unkill self and get breast implants anyway
>>727628314Steam needs an off-site patch but otherwise it's not butchered. Also the steam patch is uncensored
>>727628314Steam will forever remain based to me for making Linux gaming viable. Even Mary can't change my mind, I hate Microsoft so much it's unreal.The Steam version has a slightly improved translation in BS1 and removed mosaics.
>>727623748
>>727619474Redcuckbro...
Why is Red's mom so hot when Red herself is the most repulsive girl in the entire game?
>>727625486If there's no hole to fuck, can it really be Alice?
>>727628425Well shit, I tried checking out DLSite and am being hit by a redirect back to Google. Probably due to me being from Germany. Let me see if I can piss about with a VPN or something, otherwise it will have to be the Steam version.>>727628425>>727628509Thanks!
>>727627780I like Turtle but Griffy is boring
>>727628850>RedShe is the developer's waifu. EMMM has netorase and bestiality fetishes. In the next game, there will be a scene where Grimm holds Red's hand while Poro fucks her in doggy style position.
>>727628850we can see your graying hair, hag
>>727629374Is this picture a lie then? Mary would NEVER lie to me
>>727628987stupid sexy flat schizo cowwould scare her and then hug her would drink her poisoned soup too
>>727629493Well, yes. You can cuck Pumpkinbro in BS 2. There's also a scene with Tweedledee.
>>727628792>women say many thingsat least post the dogknotting scene from red riding wood
>>727629493netorase is more about swinging not cuckolding
>>727629730There isnt much cucking to be done with actorsI can think of a scene that isnt acted and someone is definitely cucked out of something...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozo-pshK91M
>>727627746I loved her since G because her job is specifically to fuck everyone in the plan over
>>727629493Leaf's talking about Blacksouls 1, where we were in her garden. She can't control what happens outside her garden.
>>727614318this but with Sho instead
>>727628962>Probably due to me being from GermanyYep, germany blocked DLsite.
>>727582036>Dante is both a character and a writter>A man walking through Hell with a divine guide somewhat fits BS thematicallyMite be cool
>>727630456
>>727630640Sad that I was right about that. Had a similar problem when I tried getting Fear and Hunger. The dev is a bro though, and sent me a free Steam key after I bought it on itch.io.Bought the games on Steam just now since I am too much of a dodo to circumvent the geoblocking.
>>727630235Pretty sure Red is together with Poro more during 1 than 2.
>>727631663Cute, shame she got so little screentime.
>>727631775Yeah Red still gets much more pleasure from knots. What is your point?
>>727631663thank you, very cute!
>>727631962>What is your point?That you can't read.
when are florence and red going to tie the knot?
>>727632065LMAO seething redcuck. Leaf cannot control anything outside her garden. Red's love for knots is not important.
>>727632460Why would Leaf make Red like that though?
>>727632565Just for fun.
>>727632460How long did Grimm live with Red in her BS 1 ending? Imagine hearing Red getting fucked by her dog every day and knowing that you could never make her moan like that.
You are supposed to fuck poro in the ass while he bones Red.
>>727633752>Fucking a dog in the assEwwww it's fucking dirty. Do you want to get parasites?
>>727634204Bro you already fucked the march hare. Just walk it off.
>I should read Alice in wonderland >Theres like 10 different editions of varying lengthWhat the fuck?
>>727635195I got the Norton Critical Edition. It also contained a short Carroll biography, Hunting of the Snark, and some essays of varying quality.It's this one >>727543246 though I think there's a 4th edition.
>>727635195I chose annotated alice
>>727635494>>727636603Thanks for the recommendations. I'm a fucking smooth brain so I might need the annotated edition so it's spelled out for me.
>>727636935When I was new to reading all I got were Norton Critical Editions and I'm grateful for that. They helped me get through some difficult books I might've been filtered by otherwise.These days I can guesstimate the book's difficulty and decide for myself whether I want a nice hardcover (Everyman's) or Norton for extra help.
>>727637494Thanks for the input. I'll go with the Norton critical edition since after doing some research it seems exactly like what I'm looking for
ok seriously when do i get to rape this dumb smug cat
>>727639792:3
>>727639792beat the game
>>727639792
Why is she like this bro's?
>>727640040
Reminder that King of /v/ is back up
>>727642997Grimm is already king
>>727643529You can still vote in Lindamea and Lorde. And uh, Bill, I guess?
>>727643631To be honest I don't think anything can top that yearhttps://youtu.be/I0Rowacuoqs?list=RDI0Rowacuoqs
>Doing a new game for the release as I last played in 2021 or so>Play for a couple of hours.>See a funny hehe screenshot part>Press the screenshot k->Main menuAHFUCKME
I'm stuck, I don't know what area to go. Do I need to kill the 4 women or can I just Covenant them like I've been doing. Haven't lowered my SEN either
I got the catastrophe ending because I was playing blind and everyone seemed to gradually die so I didn't know what else to do. Other than trying to get all the books on a new run Im still not really sure what to be doing. I'm pretty sure I didn't see about 60% of the characters or more as is. It felt like it was more intuitive in the first game because of the hub housing party members. Is there anything to do besides checking on the npcs frequently, I dont want to look at a guide for as long as I can. sorry if I'm retarded
>>727644009Most vague post award.Just keep exploring the birdening will come for you regardless
>>727643983I, of course, forgot the most important part of the post>Didn't save
>>727644083I'll give you tips going from less spoilery to more spoilery:It's based on progressProgress can be measured by the torches above the white door in the libraryKilling bosses/reaching new areas causes progressYou need to do X before certain progress to stop the Madness caused by theBird in theClock tower
>>727644083Don't listen to the other anon. Don't trust the fake turtle.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEAD MMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>727639792You need to reach the Library Dream without entering the Crash Chamber
>>727644083>It felt like it was more intuitive in the first game because of the hub housing party members.Yeah, I know a lot of people like to say BS1 is only fun to play as the prequel to 2 but I think everyone really underestimates how fucking obtuse BS2 is in its opening 10 hours or so. I really hated it when I began and preferred the first game, the second spends so much time spinning you circles and being deliberately as opaque as possible about where to go or even how to unlock certain endings that it's really frustrating until you understand it. I still think BS2 is the better game overall but it's actively hostile for players for the first few cycles.
>>727645096Wait, what? How?
>>727645141>the second spends so much time spinning you circles and being deliberately as opaque as possible about where to go>it's actively hostile for players for the first few cyclesThat's what I loved about it the most.
>>727645286Same, it feels so fucking good when you get it.
>>727645193You'll know it when you see it
>>727645193its a meme
>>727645474it's an actual hint
>>727645096Uhh but you literally spawn in the crash chamber?
>>727645872There is one very specific situation where you don't
In bander's fire forest and the college, I have like a 20% chance of the game crashing on me whenever I start a battle. Does anyone know the fix?I already reinstalled RPGVXACE and the game.
How am I supposed to rape jabberwock? She starts the fight using an instakill attack without any charge up and even when I invuln it she just uses it instantly later.
>>727642647This foul creatures sinister grin is irking and arousing
>>727647046The rape loss scene is funnier desu.
>>727647046leave her to me
>>727647046Just dodge it lolor sleep her
>>727606971on my first run of ending F/G I just happened to press esc every time TCO popped up so I just thought I was on a fucking roll with the hidden paths
>>727647124I enjoyed that but I'm trying to fill up my rape dungeon>>727647168I'm starting to think it's scripted if I'm doing his quest cause I just tried the fight with a ring that's supposed to nullify instant kill effects and it just went right through it and still killed me
>>727647665She's doing %health damage. I think there is a ring/armor/covenant to reduce that, but it might be DLC3-exclusive.
>>727647665It's not technically an instant kill, it just does 100% of your health
>>727647837>It's not technically an instant kill, it just does 100% of your healththis game can suck a dick
>>727647831>>727647837I think she might be bugged out. I read the wiki, which I've been hoping to avoid, but it's saying that she's supposed to have to use soul charge to use soul break but she's bypassing that requirement entirely.
>>727648121She doesn't do that the first time
>>727648293first time?
>>727625706if you mean just for achivements yeah you can do that
>>727648293When she starts the fight she immediately soul breaks with no buildup
What's the greatest number of heroines you can rape without imprisoning or killing the progress 10 fiend?
>>727648664all of them
Sorry guysI'm going to do itRed hood's gameWhen?
>>727648889That's kinda metal if true. I'm lowkey interested in a Jubjub covenant run but want to save as many people as possible from dying.
>>727649020Two more weeks
>>727649030Simply do not rest and save Ox Ward for lastFrissel and Looking-glass land are unaffected by madness
>>727649124>FrisselDoes this include Griffy?
>>727649217You should rape her at Lutwidge, she's still doomed by Mocky
And we are finally done. 41 hours, all achievos. Last achievement was the god damn rapedex and I messed that up halfway through cause I forgot all about Blackwell. Fortunately I saved frequently.Normally I wouldnt care about achievments but I got to see so much cool stuff from it so I'm happy. I guess I'll go finish black souls 1 achievements tomorrow, those were not as interesting.
WHOTHE FUCKIS THAT FUCKING FISHEROH GOD HE DRIVES ME WILD HE DOES
>>727601913uh oh someone got jubjub'd
>>727601913Alice.
>>727649291Don't worry, Node forgets about her tooHer bloodstain is still there after Node cleans it
>>727649291Interestingly the Dormouse event is not the least gotten achievement. People would rather rape everyone than do DLC 3 apparently
>>727649483Leinden and Unis look like total schizos if you rape the other and side with them
>>727649291Based 'ecker. I'll probably play DRH on my 'eck once it comes out. Might do the same with MGQ:P if I ever decide to come back to it.
>>727608749>deliriousyou dont know delirious until you suffer a high enough fever that you get admitted to the ICU, i got admitted for 16 days, the first four days i was unconscious and during it i was having bizarre fucking dreams of looping in multiple scenarios of hell. it was fucking scary.
>>727649483I'm glad there's no Old King or Ashes achievements
>>727649565only crashed 2 times in 41 hours too which honestly surprised me with all the jank.
Fucking bitch! She resisted the last fucking sleep and soul broke me. Why does she want to rape me soo badly?
>>727649907prepare to get piledrivered and loredumped on
>>727649907
>>727624874i still dont understand the whole segment of this, if you treat it like a horror game, it does spooky shit, if you treat it like an eroge it starts acting like one.
>>727627780yes but to get there you will have to go through a route where she dies.
>>727650023It's a recreation of Mary Sue trying to mindbreak Lewis Carroll so that he could fit inside Grimm.
>>727649984I've already experienced it like 6 times now... you can't reload at that point except by alt+f4ing. I just want her in my rape dungeon already but she keeps raping me instead!
>>727650195>you can't reload at that point except by alt+f4ing.F12
>>727650597Thanks that should save me some time
>>727622907Not quite.there were two separate wish incidents, in the first TCO took Lewis away to the tea party, which later got invaded by Mary Sue when Alice(TCO) and black rabbit made their wishes.
When you think of it, it's really funny that Dormouse won't spaz out if you just don't rape Bill you flaming homosexual.
>>727614318Seconding flesh wall, but in shades on a deckchair, guys earned a break.
Finally! I am going to thoroughly enjoy this for all the rape she put me through.
>>727644009The nightmares? Do what you like, so long as you find Alice.
