Factorio killer is coming soon
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>>727601635What's the expectations from the devs here exactly?People will just play factorio instead lul.Big brain moment from the developers.Flop in 10, 9, 8...
>no combat>no threats Even satisfactory let you shoot dumb looking aliens with a pellet gun.
>>727601635>Hooded HorselollmfaoAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>727601972It'll probably be cheaper and actually go on sale and not "reverse sale" like fucktorio.
All they have to do to be successful is let the game go on sale occasionally and they'll capture every poor that was ever interested in Factorio but got chased off by a $30 price tag.
>>727602317No one is poor enough to have been chased off by Factorio's price tag.
>>727601635So what's the gimmick of this game? I've really enjoyed Dyson Sphere and Satisfactory so I'm always down for a new "factory game".
People seriously get mad and filtered by Factorio's price tag?That's so fucking weird.
>>727601635>modders from factorio ultracubeI'm curious at least
>>727602409Gimmick is Factorio if it shit and published by a dodgy fucking publisher reknown for promoting fake games to secure to pre-orders for shit it hasn't even made.
>>727602409Play captain of industry
>>727602470hooded horse publishes good games though
>>727601635terrible vibe. too sunny and pleasant looking
>>727602470This is the one publisher that doesn't do any preorderd
god it really does look like a factorio modi saw the inserter arm animation and i was certain it just was one
>the premise is that you build factories that make stuffI will never get the appeal
>>727602317>$30 price tagIt's $35 now, anon. Keep up with the amazing invention of "reverse sales".
>>727601635I don't understand trying to copy the game and then expecting profits.Even games that copied Banished or Vampire Survivor added some original takes trying to b more appealing.
>>727602082>factorio: combat sucks but it's too late to remove it>dsp: combat made the game worse>satisfactory: combat sucks and should've been overhauled years agodon't add combat for no reason and make the game uncomfy
>>727602253People pay for games that don't go on a sale?Why?
>>727602721Shapez2 is entirely PVE with no combat and has the fewest players out of all the automation games. Even mindustry currently has more.
>>727602871>thinks slop that came out at $70 on $40 "sale" is a deal while complaining a $30 game that doesn't go on sale.
>>727602871They were smart enough to realize that sales are a trick to get you to buy shit that's priced higher than it's actually worth. That's why the AAA garbage coming out lately goes on sale literally a month later.
>>727602616Optimization and repetitiveness are the main appeals of this genre.The first appeals to smart people, the second to autists (who will keep happily playing it forever).Neither of those things appeal to low IQ people or non autists however.
>>727602502>Play captain of industryStraight up Australia Simulator and I fucking love it.
>>727603036The only thing that appeals to me in Factorio is killing the bugs, so I guess I'm low IQ.
>>727602082Store page mentions combat but I don't have high hope for anything beyond autotarget/autoattack
Nigger this is just bootleg Factorio.Who wants this?
what the fuck is this SEELE looking pylon building at the top?
>>727602616It's pretty much a dad gamer genre like paradox games or mmos or city builders where the solutions are incredibly simple but look superficially complex and it's just endless arbitrary progression. Basically factorio is what people who are too stupid for openttd play.
>>727602428No I got filtered by its boring ass gameplay
>>727602616It's like they took all the most boring features from a minecraft tech pack and bundled it up and called it factorio
>>727601635I prefer Domstructures.
>>727602721The PvE in Factorio adds a considerable logistics challenge. If you disable it, you disable a lot of content in getting defenses set up
>>727602889shapez is too abstract, i would like to see combat more like offworld trading co where you "fight" with the economic power of your factory instead of adding RTS elements like HP and turrets, like i could build offensive structures that sapped my enemies power and they could build defenses for that, but it would all be high level macro and not stomping nests in a tank or playing a shitty tower defense like dsp, maybe dsp will pivot that way with more planetary buildings and space combat but currently it's awful tiny tower defense
looks like shit buy an ad
>>727602616Because niggers (ie you) cannot comprehend creating something You only destroy
I asked for Z-levels in factorio over a decade ago. I'm glad someone finally did it.
>>727602871The price is fair and the game is good lol
>>727603552Hey you're talking mad shit there, Mr Tranime but after insulting me you really sold me on OpenTiddies.You're the kind of smug bastard to insult all the tycoon games, a rubiks cube, a math class and a chessboard.
>>727601635So is this an automation game with Z levels as you descend into the earth?
>>727601635lol did they lift assets from factorio ?
>>727602721Factorio has combat for the incredible feeling when you get artillery set up and no longer need to worry about it
>>727604042https://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/LATEST/docs/html/get_started.html
>>727602721eh I like the combat in DSP compared to factorio because of how you scale it. It's a different but refreshing take and does the interplanetary thing better Imo
>>727604042Not mr tranime, but OpenTTD is fucking amazing, check out some videos or guides on mods as well. Playing it from the turn of the century with horse and cart and progressing through the decades is fucking great. I wouldn't say it's complex though and unironically suffers from the same problems the weeb is saying factorio etc suffers from. OpenTTD is super simple and just natural progression and refinement.
>>727601635>$game killerWas there even one game in whole history of gaming where supposed $game killer killed it's target game instead of ending up as total embarrassment?
>>727602616There's two elements two it. The first is like a puzzle where you need to try and beat what the game wants you to do and get the win condition. A bit quick in base but in space race its pretty interesting and does make you need to play in a variety of ways and learn a lot about it. Its just a fun thing to try and beat.But then there's hyper autism which can be explained as simple as "production numbers go brrrrrrr" where all you do is try to make a bigger more optimized base because you can. If to you that doesn't seem fun then you just don't get that style. I don't I only like the puzzle style but I appreciate the autism some have for it.
>>727604339>OpenTTD is super simple and just natural progression and refinement.>>727604187
>>727603887Factorio did the real z-levels, this game just uses fake z-level animations to make the map look like it has multi layers
>>727604042>>727604339The retard gushed about Factorio a while ago until an anon posted about how his shit was badly designed and built so now he's mentally broken about itHe'll probably go about screeching how openTTD is shit and for retards when someone competent on it calls him a retard as well.>>727603887Is it even Z-levels? Looks like you just sort of "fade" to another level/layer/map when riding the elevator.
>it's a purple yellow science chips per minute episode
>>727602616>>the premise is that you build factories that make stuffYou need to be white to understand why building stuff is fun.
>>727602317it's not really about the price tag but any time a solo dev does this faggy shit I will pirate the gameyou're making vidya not working on wall street you fucking sperg go put your autism sim on sale like all the other devs...>raises price instead to keep up with muh inflationlol
>>727604490Pretty sure he said factorio was bad when the /vg/ general started spamming threads on /v/ that were just pictures of box art and bait instead of discussing the game. Kind of like this thread.
>>727604446The original roadmap had some kind of "deep" mineral mining planned but it never made it in. And while elevated rails are cool you pretty much never need them outside of fulgora. Even in big factories a few 240/s belts are usually easier than trying to load/unload a giant train carrying the same throughput. I really think cargo wagons should have their cargo size scale with quality so they didn't fall to power creep so badly.
>>727604490The video shows belts by an empty square so I'm assuming the elevator just travels up and down and delivers shit periodically.
>>727601635Wait what? I saw the presentation and I was sure this was a fucking Factorio DLC lmao
>>727602616Ask me how I know you're brown
>>727604628uhuh sure, "he"
>>727602616On the other hand i love city builders where peasants build building by slowly moving in resources and spending like in game day to construct it. I hate the games where you click ONCE and build appears and already works like in Pharaoh or Zeus games My favourite is Manor Lords where they move the tree log for like a day to build something LOL
>>727604780Yeah he. Are you the schizo who started using the weird transplanted /vg/ generala to advertise your YouTube channel and it was just deranged video essays on nick land with ai voiceovers and 12 views in to OP? Because it's not hard to see how those threads went south extremely quickly. /vg/ ruins everything. Half the threads that get spammed on the board are just dying /vg/ cliques, for example the 24/7 diablo threads.
>>727604517>>727604749
>>727603679ironic because this was made by someone developing minecraft tech packs iirc
>>727604780Source?
>london based + the game is uglyUnironically. As an American, I won't support EU peoples products or companies. Good luck with your ugly shitty knock off tho, you backwater cesspit.
its literally just a factorio mod you pay for only now the ui and controls are gonna be all fucked up and different
>>727603679>It's like they took all the most fun features from a minecraft tech pack and bundled it up and called it MAN CRAFT but then rebranded to GODtorio
>>727605464What kind of 13 year old has this image saved to their hard drive
>>727601635Isn't this made by a Factorio modder or something
>>727601635What's the difference? Is it easier, harder, has more content...?
>>727601635i'm seeing a grim lack of TBD on the steam page
>>727605637It has z-layers. That's basically it.Also- it probably won't go anywhere near the stupid levels of massive factory scale-out that Factorio's custom-built engine supports.
Any game touted as an "X Killer" is a hard ignore for me, and only ever end up killing themselves anyway.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OwV_0_25zh8It looks almost exactly like factorio but with a custom texture pack or somethingI hope they do something unique with it other than "factorio but... uh..."
Hopefully it's a less autistic and more fun factorio
>>727606137>less autistic>more funpick one
>>727606137>less autistic>more funAre you a Reddit?
>>727606331>>727606407autism
>replying to the avatarfag that got his janny application thrown in the trashjust ignore him and he'll go pester another thread instead>>727601635could be neat if they actually utilize the z-levels well, but if it's just "you can only harvest X on Y layer" then it's going to sucki loved warptorios multi layered system, but that was mostly because of the limited space it gave you each floor, but I guess I'll keep an eye on it
>>727606087I don't think I've ever seen a developer claim that their game is "X killer", it's literally shitposters on 4chan and twitter making shit up and you believing it like a retard
>>727606590Go away and play your Ubisoft DLCs
>>727606137The entire point is the autism. You can't make these games fun but also non-autistic. That's like saying "I hope they make Futa Quest 4: Big Juicy Cocks without any women with penises".
>>727602616number go up
It's not true Z layers unless you can make each section of belt descend into the earth a tile at a time.
>not even a release datego awaysomeone could do the funniest thing right now
>>727605384NTA but this one is a classic, you should learn to recognize this one by heart(C90) [Minori Kenkyuujo (Minori Kenshirou)] Minori Kenkyuujo Soushuuhen 2012~2015 | Minori Kenkyuujo Collection 2012~2015 [English] =LWB=https://exhentai.org/g/1009204/60b003780b/?p=5
>>727606683>1 research point per hourKino. I kinda miss when Factorio wasn't about 1000000000 science per minute crap>oh you want more science?>time to gacha some legendary chipsThis shit is boring
I bought factorio for less than a dollar back when regional pricing was fucked, I can creamapi the space dlc and every dlc that comes after. I'm not buying any other autism sim game unless it's 5$ or less.
>>727608027Cheers
>>727607641I'm pretty sure some 3rd world slav is making it so prepare for a lot of astroturfing and gaslighting
>>727602721>>factorio: combat sucks but it's too late to remove itthe combat in factorio is the only actual fail state in the game where if your logistical and organization skills are bad enough you will get overrun and lose
>>727608740I like my combat in factorio to be my resource sinkthis is why I almost never upgrade away from gun turrets
>>727603865I find that quite often the people who enjoy factorio and other games are the ones who have never done anything with their own hands. Similarly you'll have a lot of people here calling you brown because you're not entertained by boring open worlds like witcher 3 or elden ring, but they don't go outside much.t. white who often hikes in the Alps and has done things with his hands.
>>727602428there is objectively nothing to complain about so they need to make up bullshit arguments
>>727610013Eurotrash spottedOpinion discarded
Why is there no competitive factory building game? Or at least one where you build against an existential threat so there's a timer.
>>727602721You’ve never thrown grenades at bug nests with a car and it shows
>>727604339Is it better than OpenRCT?
>>727601635>>727603513I think factory games are at their best when they have a foot on reality, where you can make logical conclusions to stuff by understanding how real life works.I see this and it looks neat but I don't understand what the factory is supposed to be for or what they're making or what the purpose of anything is.It looks like something I would play but so far it's not selling me on it.
>>727603798>flamethrowers trivialize Nauvis>a combination of rocket + regular turrets trivialize Gleba>Tesla towers completely remove combat from the gameNone of these options have any logistical challenge, they barely cost any resources to set up and maintain.
>>727601635Straight up looks like a copy. Factorio should sue the fuck out of them.
>>727612675I think ammo/power costs for these should be scaled to be more in line with gun turrets desu. you’re right that the cost of doing business when producing ammo pretty much stops mattering once you have flamethrowers and lasers
Can other dev even imitate the dedication of factorio programmer? They put lots of effort into optimizing their coding.
I played factorio before they released the expansion. is it worth playing with it ? I read about the items quality that they introduced, is it possible to disable that or I need mods ?
>>727613173>imitate the dedication of factorio No
>>727613482You can disable stuff as if it was mod but why would you disable quality? You have to actively get quality to get quality, it will never happen if you don't actively work to get quality items.
>>727613698I'd rather have a mod that make sure that quality is always the best. it's just another tedious hoop to go through that adds nothing.
>>727613482quality is kind of annoying to me because your quality intermediates cant just be consumed like any normal intermediate so if you dont have the recycler you are stuck warehousing endless amounts of random quality items
>>727613782You should get the normal items, not the boosted quality-game-breaking ones.
>>727613482The expansion is structured as three mods, space age, quality, and elevated rails. You enable the parts that you want.
>>727612675>Tesla towers completely remove combat from the gameEach of those use like 1MW idleAll of the turrets don't make themselves either, in one way or another you have to handle the logistics of keeping them running, and bringing the ammo to the turrets. (Though flame turrets are pretty cheap to keep running)What is an issue however is that there is no real reason for railgun turrets besides space.
>>727601635it already looks visually better but that's a very short order
>>727613173yeah, I'm glad to see more people making automation games but I don't expect anybody to top Wube's work ethic and intelligent approach to development anytime soon, so a new game should have something going for it that clearly sets it apart from Factorio rather than trying to compete directly with it
>>727614065I like factorio's aesthetics
>>727614018>paste down another addition to my 1120 MW scalable reactoroh no how will I cope
>>727613516He's right, government funding some games over other games is fucked up. Remember how it went with dustborn. Tax paid for that shit.
>>727614226to me it looks like Starcraft 1 but worse
>>727614226It really is beautiful. Sound design as well. More music tracks needed tho.
>>727614226i wish they updated the basic assembler sprites a bit
>>727614531I made my own mini-mod that adds a bunch of C&C and Starcraft tracks to various planets, gives them all a little more nice flavor.
>>727614456it definitely looks rougher when you're zoomed out but tbf it's hard to make something that looks good and is also readable while having so much shit going on, and depending on tase the grimy industrial look can make things better or even worse
>>727603552no it's what people who are too stupid to become programmers play
>>727601635>2-sided beltsretardedcan we stop with this shit please?
Why would I ever consider this when Factorio exists and can be easily downloaded with all the DLC?
>>727615039what a silly comparison, it's like saying that beat sabre players are failed drummers when there's a huge difference between learning a real skill to the point it becomes a career and just chilling and playing a video game
>>727615285hmm I think you’re right…I think Factorio is too successful and owns too much of the market share of automation games…. someone needs to do something about this monopoly………..
these autismos need to go outsidefactorio and apparently this game are missing some major things>dynamic wildlife, more plants>weather including major events like storms>seasons>wildlife even if it's benign to the player, like grazing herd animals, predators, birds>flowing water such as rivers>seasonal flooding in places>mountains
release date: coming soonThat basically means never and when it does come out it'll sit in EA for 5+ years assuming the devs even stick with it for that long (they won't, it'll be abandoned after 1 year).
>>727615482I think games that have those things should have factories in them.
>>727602502Me finding out that I can use trash landfill to expand my factory was eye opening
What's so fun about factories? Farm simulator tier bullshit
>>727615757Farm sim? Sounds fun, where do I buy it?
>>727615432Satisfactory already took a big cut and DSP was promising, OP's game's issue is looking too much like Factorio.If I had to play another game in the genre I'd rather go with something like Captain Of Industry
I need my factory game to let me build tanks and for there to be things outside the factory for the tanks to kill
>>727601635How do you kill something dead?
>>727601635Too much of a Factorio ripoff. Satisfactory might be a dogshit copy, but at least it's different enough.
>>727615886i need to write a mod for factorio that makes me produce kits for individual soldiers and equip them and then combine 40 soldiers and a special officer unit into a platoon and combine five platoons into a company
>>727615861>>727616059Truth. Why play not-Factorio when you can just play Factorio and its myriad mods? Dyson Sphere Program and Captain of Industry are the only Factorio-adjacent games you need.
>>727610013>t. white who often hikes in the Alps and has done things with his hands.Nah, you're brown
>>727602616It's a game for men. Men are born to solve problems and optimize solutions. If you are a girl, you won't enjoy the game.
>>727602502>>727601635>>727603513Why is it a norm that every factory game needs to be ugly as fuck?Like, you can make machines actually aesthetically pleasing but they all look the same slop
>>727601635this looks really unappealing compared to factorio
>>727618023 It’s because it is. Every dev that tries to “innovate” on Factorio just ends up slapping shinier textures on worse mechanics. They don’t get that Factorio’s appeal isn’t graphics-it’s the godlike satisfaction of watching your spaghetti evolve into clean, efficient murder-loops. All these clones keep chasing aesthetics and miss the soul.
>>727617924Making cool machines is harder than it looks imo, not many have the talent
>>727602721Factorio combat is a massive element of the game. Just because you dislike it doesnt mean it isn't a core game mechanic that drives 90% of your development
>>727603552i wish they banned they fucking avatarfag
>>727613516I still can't bring myself to like this guy after he arbitrarily increased the price because of (((inflation))). And I bought Factorio back when it was only 20€.
>>727620414Increasing the price of your game as it comes out of EA is fair, but doing it after is a whole other story and it's definitely scummy
>>727602616Man this based post sure did ruffle sone feathers
>>727613516government is far more interested in media narratives than stopping rape or murder or whatever
>>727612343>be le philosopher>make le "logical conclusions" based on metaphysical hallucinations about the developer's sense of schizoenergy>that's lowkey bussin a foot on reality or psycho/schizo-analysis, shlimeskill issue
>>727620948Waitfags once again BTFO
>>727621753???
>Copy game concept: cool>Make it look almost exactly like the game: lame?They didn't even try, I noticed there are a bunch of games that use the exact same sprites from rimworld too, is this a legit thing or are these people actually hacks?
>>727622754I did get the game for 20€, but if they hadn't increased the price then Space Age would have cost less too
>>727623441iirc rimworld copied some other games sprites too for ea placeholders (with permission)
>factorio but it's gits
>>727602871they dont fall for jewish tricks
>>727611986Mindustry
>>727614018Power grows on trees on Gleba.
>>727602721you've never played factorio past red science have you?
>>727601635>more low effort directionless pixelshit indieslopNo thanks
>>727603556Oh we got an ass gameplay connoisseur here.
NICE ANOTHER CAKEI will just pirate it like I did with factorio, dyson, satisfactory.
>need something different after playing a lot of factorio>try dsp, it's pretty cool if a bit jank>make a small sphere>try to make a huge sphere>when placing, the structure points are tiny as fuck>can't put the structure points closer together, the angular distance has to be exactly the same every timeyeah nah, fuck that shit, why is this a thing? i want to build a huge fucking sphere cause i want it to be intricate and detailed, fuck off
>>727601635Visually looking like a good game does not mean it is a good gameZoomers always fall for this, that's why they think every adventure game is an RPG with deep mechanics
>>727611986Play IRL
>>727602889Mindustry isn't even in the same genre as the others
I'm waiting for Motemancer. I hope it's good.
>>727606590
>>727602616lol woman
>>727627584Did you try it on a blue giant? That would give you far more anchor spots I think
>>727602889Because shapez is inherently boring because you are just making different shapes. It feels inherently sisyphean. At least when I'm making iron then steel then a lawnmower I can understand the purpose of the final part. Making blue circle on red cross on green half rectangle feels like the work people do in prison.
>>727602253People don't just get Factorio from gog-games dot to?
>>727628068It literally is. It's a factory game with TD elements. It even had blueprints before satisfactory.
>>727606087damn you missed out on a lot of great games
>>727611986They are billionsFrom glory to goo
>>727613516unfathomably based
>>727617924factories are ugly, hello?!
>>727620414Still cheaper than the competition.
You know you're allowed to play both games right?
>>727602616That is true.Only a few hundred players actually make something worthwhile and challenging in the game. Creating a game that lets you push its limits is a good enough feat, though.
>>727629306This gets you beheaded on /v/
>play factory game>enjoy myself for like 50 hours>suddenly don't feel like playing>take a 6 month break>decide to come back and the urge to completely restart hangs over me>repeat>never finish
>>727620948>>727620414It's based actually.
>>727601635>THE FACTORIO KILLER...We don't do that here.Us eggmen are more than happy to get more competition and more automation games to play.Take your bullshit zoomer lingo where it belongs: to your yearly AAA multiplayer only slop bullshit threads.Faggot.Nigger.Kill yourself.
>>727617924play shapez 2
>>727629306who da fuk has time for 2 factory games at once? are you a casual?
>>727602134when did they fail you?
>>727629550Repetition is the path to mastery.
>>727606128>even the same sounds
>>727617924You ever see factories in real life?
Space Age was a good DLC but it kind of failed to capture the spirit of building a big factory with the new content. It feels like everything you do on other planets is just to bring shit back to the starter planet and make that factory better. This will always be the case when Nauvis has the majority of science packs and the other planets have one each. I think they should have just added one planet in the DLC and make it more fleshed out.
>>727630125They should have had giant orbital platforms that your ships visually docked at to transport goods. Moving more production into space should have been encouraged. The space part of space age is glorified trains which sucks after you create a design that just werks and copy paste it for all your next ones.
>>727614226If only it actually looked like this. Factorio has a shitty ugly color palette and a shitty design for most things.
>>727630356Yeah, also a big flaw. I was hoping for more use out of stationary space platforms. And they should have just let us walk around them, even if it took a suit upgrade.
>>727601635hahabuy an ad
>>727601635It already happened.
>>727630593Already did. You are in it. What now? Gonna cry? Piss your pants?
Isn't it weird how none of the Factorio ripoffs actually suck ass? They're all decent at the very least.
>>727606137What if...We made Factorio but with big boob sluts but instead of big boob sluts they are flat chest lolis and instead of flat chest lolis they are loli futa westoid eroge homosexual gay negros with rainbow hair and then we can call it Fagtorio Remastered AAA
>>727630745what if we have both big boob sluts and flat chest lolis and both factions build industry and weaponry to defeat the other
>>727601635Its just a cheap imitation, I bet they are not even going to charge $40
>>727630718>They're all decent at the very least.Not really, factorio is kinda slop to begin with
>>727601635>A single (1) miner on the resource patchI dont think so
>>727630745
>>727602616Correction: You build factories that make stuff so that you can build even more factory
>>727613516>makes redditfags seethe because he specifically mentions that you can learn from people you don't like>becomes a millionaire and then increases the price of the game anywayOnly game dev I can know personally is based
>>727631287Guys we can make Factorio Remastered but FOR BETTER MENWrite me your ideas and I'm gonna make a gofundme u/sub!I know all the top talent at New Vegas Frontier Modders! We can do this!
>>727601635this doenst even seem to have a gimmick, its just factorio with a texture pack?
>>727613516That post was prophetic, now that we know about hundreds of millions euro that were stolen from taxpayers and sent to Ukraine only to disappear in someone's pockets.
>>727613516You fucking Chuds need to just take the USAID money and shut up
>>727601635is it possible to play this game stoned with biters on? Is that a valid excuse to play with them off? I enjoyed the hour I spent with this game before I got btfo by not having ammo a few months ago.
>>727631287Bro its okay he's just talking about Satisfactory: Outer Worlds DLC
>>727632171biters/no biters is just a difficulty tweak, you are not "diluting" your experience by disabling them
>>727632171just turn off biter expansion
>>727602721>too late to remove it>there's a literal option to remove it and it makes the game worse
>>727632171Read nigger READRailworld is literally the game mode you're describing.
>>727632171Give up your drug addiction.
Is Riftbreaker a good option if I want to get into conveyor belt autism and then maybe graduate to Factorio?
What's the point of making something that could be a Factorio mod into a standalone game? Other than money...oh. But who the fuck is going to buy something that is 99% just Factorio on a worse engine?
>>727632171Biters are not going to make you smarter at making better smarter designs. There is so much to take in to absorb on your first time. You don't fine tune things when you are under attack. Biters give you tension to hurry up the basics and get a game plan to launch your rocket. From retrospect of launching your rocket you can stage your journey in intelligent planning. Getting to know the game is exciting and fun but this is a game that rewards mastering tweaks that are never the same twice. Biters have made me optimize for this and that when they have either fenced me in famine or slowed me down in regularly grazing on my napalm walls. I have won my emu war without the neat designs you see online. There wasn't time to implement it on hand.
>>727633787It doesn't really do conveyors, unless they added some it just has power connections and all mined shit goes to a magic pocket dimension. It's for ARPG mecha shooting.
>>727632171just stop smoking weed like a degenerate because its making you unable to enjoy games without turning half of it off
>>727603552i’ve played openttd but i’ve never played factorio and factorio has always looked more complex. most of the complexity in openttd just comes from signal autism anyway.
>>727602616Hoenstly same.I am get the engineering part, but fucking factories? lolShit like Armored Core, HighFleet or Cortex Command is 100 times more interesting then that idle slop.
>>727633787Satisfactory is pretty good for getting into factory games, familiar controls of first person games, decent amount of complexity, enemies will never attack your factory and your resource nodes will never run out
>>727602889The current mode is pretty frustrating since after you max out a shape you then need to redo everything to build for a new shape
>>727633751>>727634053Games are too easy when I'm sober. It's my happy time don't tell me how to spend it.
>>727601635I thought this was factorio 2
>>727633594you can turn it off but half the tech tree is still military because the game was always designed around it
>>727626773Really want a game with this art style.
>>727601635Game might catch my interest if they just go back to what Factorio was before the space age update. As it stands now everything in that game feels too bloated.
>>727634830iirc the factorio devs plan to start working on a completely different game, makes sense after more than ten years of autistically focusing on Factorio
what are some gateway autism games?
>>727626773>>727635151reminds me of first Synthetik
>>727636278minecraftrust
The only thing I hate about Factorio is the whole character control system with WASD and stupid inventory with stupid UI. It's stupid and inconvenient. Everyone just rushes to the drones, covers everything with radars and forgets the player character exists. The game would be more straightforward if it played like a city builder.So why the fuck did they decide to copy the worst aspect of Factorio? What's the point of a character if there's no combat? What's the point of inventory in a factory building game?
>>7276297918 out 10 times
>>727602253>WAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! The thing that still gets regular patches and content and always runs really well went up in price!!!
>>727614018>there is no real reason for railgun turrets besides spaceThey're amazing for killing demolishers, and far superior to the rocket turrets on gleba.
Even if I didn't like Factorio, I would like how much it makes poor and retarded steamfags seethe. Think I'll buy another copy for my nephew for Christmas.
>>727639731>logistics dronesdidn't beat the game
>>727604637Train parts, in general, could use some sort of quality bonus besides an HP increase.
>>727640954Not logistics drones, but construction drones that allow you to build the base without your character present. This allows you to play the game as a regular city builder where you just move the camera and click where to build stuff.
>>727639731It provides a sense of progression if you start as just a dude cutting trees and hitting rocks. Also so you can take a break from factory stuff to go run over biters in a tank.
>>727601635>Conveyor belts with two lanes>Inserters>Long inserters are red>miners on ore patches>science labs for researchingThis literally looks like a mod, I wouldn't be surprised if the devs somehow licensed out the Factorio engine to make it.Looks great, can't wait.
>>727634198>he wouldn't fuck a factory
>>727617924>He doesn't appreciate the heavy industrial aestheticsad
>>727628079I can't get over the fact that it makes me think of someone's custom-settings WC3 map with f2p mobile phone assets. The hexagonal grid could get some real belt spaghetti kino going though so I'm conflicted.
>>727602616Its like a puzzle game to some people where their goal is to optimize efficiency.They should have just gone to school and become an engineer and got paid to do it
>>727620414retard he's not the one with a finger on the scale, blame (((inflation))) not the people dealing with it
>>727643286game?
>>727602616
>>727644065>They should have just gone to school and become an engineer and got paid to do itCollege and STEM are memes that haven't had a reasonable payoff for a while, now. All the worthwhile positions go to nepotism hires, and everything gets increasingly shitty because of it.
I wonder if they have trains
>>727648031I kinda doubt it since their big thing seems to be Z-axis elevator.
>>727646336Looks like Captain of Industry to me. It's not going to look like that unless you're a mega-autist though
>>727601635good premisei had some idea for a factorio space age world where it's like there's a dying AI still in control of the entire planet and it has you do stuff for it.
>>727648554That kind of sardine infrastructure just naturally happens with space constrictions.
>>727601635Jarvis, pull up the country of origin of the devs.
>>727601635why does the screenshot remind me of spacechem
>>727649787>A little more on Dubious Design: they’re based in the UK, and consist of two people.
This is a tangent, butI do not understand solo devs who makes games in hopes they make worthwhile money off of them (i.e, live soley off of the game's profits for like a year)There is 0.1% chance of thisYou would need to develop 105 (ONE-HUNDRED AND FIVE) games to just have a 10% CHANCE of making enough money from it to support you for about a MONTH
>>727651049that's not how probability works. You make a good game people like and you make money.
>>727601635Ridley Scotts gonna sue somebody..
>>727602317if you are chased off by a $30 price tag, its time to move your lazy ass and get a fucking job
>>727652750this, factorio is the perfect third worlder filter.
>>727601635>we have factorio at home
>>727632982having massive biter's colonies around a mineral patch you need is not the same as not having them
Why the fuck would I play this instead of Factorio? I bet it runs like ass compared to Factorio too
>>727601972This. Why would people play Counter Strike 2 when Counter Strike 1.6 exists? Why would they play Minecraft when Infiniminer exists? It's so stupid, the natural state of humanity is perpetual stagnation
>>727602871People don't just save up for something they want at the price they know it will be? Why do you get swayed by sales alone like a woman?
>>727620414I dont understand you niggers, do you believe inflation doesn't exist?
>>727604880Workers and Resources has spoiled me on this. I can't take Cities Skylines and their instantly teleporting tower cranes to every single construction site
>>727653371CS2 is made by the same company and has better graphicsInfiniminer didn't have any kind of following and clearly Minecraft did the block game better. Factorio has sold millions of copies
I'd like that alot but factorio is very well designedI think most devs are not smart enough to achieve the level of complexity that factorio has without just letting modders do their job for them
>>727617924What, you don't think this looks cool?
>>727601635If it has inserters and two sided belts it's already miles ahead of every other clone>>727602616>the premise is that you design complex systems and solve challenges
>>727631737He supports Ukraine btw.
>>727631737>hundreds of millionsleast it wasn't $100B
>>727613516Based. Fuck the government.>>727630745>they are loli futaThis but unironically.
>>727653738You know how old people always say $15 minimum wage is way more than they ever had in their childhoodPeople actually just do not readjust their frame of reference and keep insisting there's no problem and money now is just like money x years agoThey might complain about their grocery bills but that is forgotten as soon as they throw the receipt in the binSo if anyone ever causes this kind of dissonance by reminding them that their money isn't worth as much anymore, it's the sellers fault and not the fault of whoever decided wages should be permanently arrested at the level of the 1980s
anyone try this?
>>727603552>openttd>no real goal aside from making money>trains magically flip themselves around without needing to loopI wanted to like it, but I much prefer fuggorio's train game
>>727601635I want a factorio like game but mixed with total commander, so I can turtle my way out of the planet, like in factorio, but i want hordes of tanks and robots sieging my base and getting blown up by my atomic artillery. I want energy shields disintegrating enemy shells and rockets and anti air turrents and nuclear submarines is it too much to ask?
>>727655327mods?
>>727655007nope
>>727655007Yes, its a fun puzzle game but I got bored of it pretty quickly.
>>727633787riftbreaker is 95% arpg 5% factory game. Occasionally the game tells you a big horde is coming for your factory and you go defend it but you spend most of your time away from it killing things.
>>727633787it has pipes but it's far more of an RTS
Gleba
I want an automation game that's Disgaea themed; I think it would be cool if the drone equivalent is Prinnies, and instead of other planets to go to it's different Netherworlds.
>>727650949Jarvis, wishlist the game
>>727615482seasons is a good idea
bros... oil filtered me...
>>727633787ignore this retard >>727634362, you'll end up hating factory gamesDyson Sphere Program is a perfect entry point imo, much simpler, very forgiving, and rewards your progress with a delightful spectacle that you yourself build.
>>727602253>noooo i had 10 years to get it on sale or get it for free and now i have to pay the retard tax for what is ostensibly the only automation game with longevity in existance!!theres a 99% chance that if you dont have factorio pre-price increase, your brain is not compatible with the game
>>727661409it's ok anon, you can always try again later when you feel like it. I don't really get what makes oil such an infamous filter though, is it that it's less compact than belts because of having to make sure pipes keep separated? or is advanced oil cracking daunting? or is it just that it seems to be detached from what you've learned so far, using mostly different buildings?
>>727655501 Yeah there's a bunch. Space Exploration adds whole new planets and late-game tech that kinda scratches that big war/colonization itch, especially if you throw in Rampant or Krastorio2. If you want absurd firepower and armor, just stack on Advanced Artillery Remotes and Schall Tank Platoon. Get AAI Vehicles for some RTS-lite vibes too. It still won't be exactly like what you described unless you go wild modding it, but it gets close.
when will SEx be compatible with Spage reeeee
>>727602721i wouldnt have played factorio without combat
>>727601635Are those corn fields? I think a cornfield mod would be fun in Gleba.>harvest corn>grind corn into mash>hydrolyze starches into sugars>divert part of this directly with circuits to be added to all sorts of foodstuffs to keep pentapods lethargic and fat>convert the rest into ethanol and ultimately solid fuel, powering the whole operation
>>727663717Considering it's the Ultracube devs then chances are this started as a mod.
>>727661409literally JUST use have all 3 oil types go into silo's WITH pumpsconnect the silo's to eachother with green wirehave a pump leading out of the silo's to the cracking for each (and have the result pipe lead into the back of the matching silo, for example heavy oil cracked to light oil, goes into light oil tank)now for the ''hard'' partconnect green wire to the pumps in and out of each tank and to the silo's so they're all connected with 1 big chain of green wirehave the pumps FROM the oil refineries set to stop working once the tanks get to 20k capacity (so there is space for cracking results)now have every exit pump from the silo have conditions such as only pump out light oil to cracking if light oil > petroleumonly pump out heavy oil > light oilthen dont touch anything else, the silo's will self balance all the oils, and you just pipe out from the last hole on the silo's without touching any of the pump lines and you are free to use it as you like. its 5am so i hope i made this as succinct as possible for you
>>727661409This hasn't been a problem since like 2019 with 0.17. Why are people so afraid of oil?
>>7276634071. you need to go out and find an entirely new resource 1. (advanced) oil processing the only recipe in the game that has waste products, which is a can be uniquely hard 2. its about when your original mining patches run out and medium or even large bitters start spawning and really pressuring the player 3. pipes are new and while not necessarily hard, its another thing a new player needs to learn4. its when you realize your starter base is nowhere near big enoughin earlier patches basic oil processing also made 3 types of oil, which is when it blue science was insanely hard for newbies
>>727663871>talking about esoteric WAY earlier patch knowledge in the same post as saying people have to 'learn' pipes as a new item (despite using them to power their base the entire game up to that point)this is an AI post for sure
how do people STILL get filtered by oil?
>>727663976I dont think this counts dingus
>>727664052I wish it was harder in vanilla. Setting up a fully self sufficient and self balancing oil and gas factory in Angel's petrochemical was very satisfying.
>>727664052the old chemical plants look so fucking sexy, I'm glad mods use them
>>727602253Why would they put Factorio on sale?
>>727664249>the pipe holds the liquid for its length and goes into buildingscongratulations you have learned everything there is to know about pipes, when a player as retarded as you starts oil they will quickly see they cant mix pipe fluids, probably accidently, and that's quite literally all the knowledge required for oil.sorry about your condition
>>727601635good for them. I hope the game succeeds.but why would i play it over factorio?
>>727664716did you sign an exclusivity contract anon? is that how they handle sales?
>>727601635looks (no) like (bump) shit
>>727664770probably, the greedy mutts
>>727663470that's what I thought. there's also mods that make walls block enemy ranged attacks, which works with the end energy shield mod. I dunno about enemy variety but the game already has settings that make enemies swarm you. >>727663668the first time I finished factorio was with peaceful biters.
only problem with these games is that when you closely copy factorio your game would simply be better off as a overhaul modI know people hate the idea of paid mods but there should be a paid factorio mod system. I'd pay $5 for ultracube, space exploration etc over these indie clones
>>727664770Why buy more of the same?What does it do better?
>>727630386The Foundry is from Space Age....
>vanilla factorio but with gleba farming bullshitno thanks
>>727665320and I heard they won't have sales either...
>>727602253What should the sale price of Factorio be and why?
>>727602317Nobody starts a venture, commercial or artistic, with the intention of attracting broke retards.
>>727665320What made Gleba hard was that you needed nutrients just to process things and no reliable source of power unless you had a fuckton of solar panels. If it was just fruits to bioflux to green slime goo it would be easy
>>727665346Why would they?
>>727664770nope but whats the point of buying a close copy.imo the "more of the thing" works only in 2 situations>new game is actually superior to old one.This wont be the case i believe, at best this game will be just as good as factorio but not superior. It will probably have some edges over factorio but only in some places. Factorio is a very hard act to follow. >Game actually has an endthis only really works for games with story campaigns id sayi predict that a lot of factorio players will buy it but eventually will just stick to factorio
I worked my way through OG Factorio without looking anything up and felt like I was getting better and better as I got more use to it. Space Age Factorio hard filtered me because it now felt like I had to look shit up no matter what. Am I stupid?
>CONVINCE ME TO PLAY IT!!!dunno man, just like pirate it or not
>>727602616Honestly you have to try it out and you'll see
>>727601635>>727602253so it's just factorio for poor thirdies kek
>>727665548Probably.Either that or you've become aware of/acclimatized to the wider factorio environment and you now feel like you 'need' to progress at a certain speed.Basically your self expectations have risen while your skill has not. Should have played it slower blind instead of looking up wiki guides like some kind of faggot.
>>727654596literally looks like Mordor.
>>727664870building base defense is kino and so is building a tank to crush the xenos
>>727602317>>727602253Poor-ass thirdies are retarded and would just refund the game anyway, the strategy is genius when you think about it.
Is Foundry good yet?
>>727665471>no reliable source of power unless you had a fuckton of solar panels.you can make so much rocket fuel, how the fuck are you running out of power?All you need to do to run gleba is set up your base so that the nutrient lines can never back up. That way you constantly have new fresh nutrients coming in.
>>727665891for sure, I enjoyed the feeling of crushing insects under my boot . but making people feel bad for not being able to cope with it all just means less people having a good time. I had a good time learning the ropes and growing my factory. combat is just one aspect of the game, and an optional one at that.
is there a game like factorio but also an rts
>>727666360Rocket fuel can be made from bioflux and jelly but that assumes you have a working, self-sufficient system. Once you can work something out it's easy but it's a bitch to build something properly, especially without bots or importing a shit-ton of materials in.
>>727665548did you use the improved in-game encyclopedia?>>727664965>I'd pay $5 for ultracube, space exploration etc over these indie clonesgood news, the Ultracube dev is working on this game>>727666561Does Foxhole count? Probably not, but nothing comes to mind
>>727666561modded factoriodesync
>>727654596Yes, and it's a damn shame that city simulators NEVER have properly scaled industrial facilities (among other things).
>>727666082>>727666082No. When it's finished with a 1.0 version + blueprints it will probably be worth playing. Right now it's tedious and the UI needs major work. You can't read machine displays without shoving your face right next to the fucking thing. Game desperately needs a way to zoom in.
>>727667749I see, thanks, definitely gonna wait and keep an eye on it then
>>727602721>too late to remove it>peaceful mode onHoly shit
>>727602616High IQ people are genetically inclined to build civilizationLow-IQ people may like sports all of fps shooters
>>727601635lol, lmao.ROFL
>>727665471>no reliable source of powerliterally just farm stuff and throw it into a burner to make steam, what's the big deal
>>727665320Gleba's easy though.
>>727602428I don't get to buy it at $5 and let it sit uninstalled in my steam library at 2 mins played. Of course I'm mad.
>>727645885>directly participates when literally no other dev has ever done this>nooo it's not his faultI'd call you a retarded nigger and that you should kys yourself but it's Christmas season so I won't.
>>727666626White science unlocks kovarex which should have been your hint to switch to nuclear powered ships. I just had one ship set up to drop fuel off every few hours.
>>727670514>White science unlocks kovarex which should have been your hint to switch to nuclear powered ships.Anon your pattern recognition fucked up hard.
>>727670514i hated nuclear spaceships but i hated solar spam even morethere has to be a better system for these fucksi hate open-top sushi belt spaceships too but i don't know how they could get around that with how the game is designed everyone's ships generally end up reaching the same design conclusions because of how pigeonholed the space design is (need x guns to break y asteroids with z thrust/self-efficiency structures on whatever route, blah blah, make the same shit every time)
>>727670792Do you happen to be retarded?
