Ok. They need to stop.
Didn't arm already fail in that surface laptop thing?
Steam Cooker when?
>>727617520steam clams overmorrow
>>727617520Can they just stick to Steam
>>727617520The artifact fanbase will not stand for this Monopoly.
how about letting me pay without mastercard having power over me, anybody?
>>727617520>Half-life 4 phones
SteamNet and GabeNation next.
Steam city when
>>727617520>Linux Phone by Valveyes, sir.
>>727618174Cleveland, OH
>>727618256>The only phone you can install your own apps on without big corpo's approvalThey would make gorillions
A push for open-source alternatives to ZOGdroid and iSoy? I cannot imagine being against this.
>>727619224iPhones are based as fuck. Only pajeets and other third worlders whine about them
>>727618569>>727618256was already tried multiple times and nobody cared
Can't wait to personally hand Gaben my $1000 for the SteamPhone
a somewhat mainstream linux phone would be amazing
>>727617941what did anon mean by this?does he want a physical storefront to use cash in?
>Is Arm the future of handheld gaming, or is it just something for headsets?>I don’t know. I think Arm devices are definitely a good fit for lower performance, like anything lower than Steam Deck. But it’s possible it’ll be a good option for something on the order of the Steam Deck performance envelope. We don’t really try to steer the market one direction or another; we just want to make sure that good options are always supported.What did Valve mean by this regarding the Steam Deck 2?
>>727617520> Ok. They need to stop.Cry more
>>727618256Did they say "phone" or "Arm?"Because I'm pretty sure modern Mac use arm also, so they might be talking about making Steam on Mac more viable.
They need to make Steam RAM and Steam GPU to fix the shortages. It makes sense for them to do this since their entire business depends on people being able to get hardware for gaming.
>>727617603Yes, Windows on Arm is like Android on a tablet. It just doesn't work and will never take off. It takes a company like Apple to make Arm laptops/desktops work.
>>727620286>they might be talking about making Steam on Mac more viableProton on Mac would be a dream come true, but it would also kill all their Linux ventures. Valve despise Apple now though. Even when they updated CSGO to 64-bit they refused to bring it back to macOS.
>>727619325Problem with iphones is the last decent one was the SE a decade ago
>>727620637>the last decent one was the SE a decade agoI still use mine to this day and it's still fast and does everything I could ever want from a phone. It'd be cool if they made a new one with upgraded components, but it'll never happen.
>>727620360you don't just casually open a chip manufacturing plant lmao
>>727617520>ARMIt's Nvidia's world baby
>>727620780Gay Ben can sell one of his super hospital/sealab/helipad yachts
>>727619998So, what did they mean by this?
"AYO APPLEIN BITCH DIS YO WAKEUP CALL HA" - GABE N(IGGA).
>>727620998That Deck 2 will not be Arm because Arm sucks.
>>727619361I'm not buying your shitty fairphone with a price tag of a Samsung fold and internals of a galaxy 3
>>727617520>Steam PhonesThis is obviously for an ARM-based Deck 2.
>>727620286Relevant part of the interview.This is just a compatibility interface so x86 (windows apps) can run on arm64 (mac, phones etc) without recompiling. In theory, this interface could allow you to install software directly from steam onto phones.
>>727620958Do you know how long it takes to build a fab? By the time its done the shortages will be over.
>>727620286won't happen, since apple doesn't use vulkan but metal.
>>727621367What’s a fab
>>727617520>a fully open smartphone where Google doesn't stop you from side loading appsI would unironically buy one immediately.
>>727620958Mate, a chip manufacturing plant worth a damn costs more than Gabe is worth
>>727621494Fabrication.
>>727621424Metal is based on Vulkan. Valve even had the early working for Proton on Mac going, but they cancelled all plans when Apple dropped 32-bit support in 2019 and basically said "fuck you, we're not doing this again" and didn't even bother porting their own games back to macOS, even going so far as to pull the 64-bit ones just to really tell Apple to go to Hell.
>>727619638Already tried with an Ubuntu fork. Didn't work.
>>727621540Even tho it'll have worse internals than competing pixel/galaxy/iphone phones?
>>727620384>It takes a company like Apple to make Arm laptops/desktops work.Why is Apple able to achieve something like this but not Microsoft? I still have my M1 MacBook Pro from 2020 and it's still so fast and all my programs just work. How is Apple always able to pull off things like this?
>>727617520They just need to release an OS, is all they gotta do. I ain't spending several hundred dollars on a phone when I can buy a fifty dollar Galaxy S7 off of eBay and just replace the OS.
>>727622027I used a 2014 MacBook Pro without a single issue until 2024 when I bought a new one that I didn’t even need. Took my 2014 in once for a sticky key and they replaced the entire top case/keyboard/battery for free without any kind of warranty. God tier company.
>>727617520I don't like Steam, why would I use their OS and machine.
Might just live long enough to witness STEAM CARS
>>727621553>>727621367How does Jensen NVIDIA do it then?
>>727617520And then Steam Wife, right?
>>727622971NVIDIA is a way, way bigger company than Valve
>>727623192Valve can got bigger(?)
>>727617520The future is every game being playable on every platform
>>727622832>the steering wheel will still have 2 shitty touch pads near the thumb>it ends up being good
>steam machine>doesn't actually run on steamMANMADE HORRORS
>>727624747Technically is does. Power generation, even nuclear, still makes steam to turn the turbines which turn the generator to make power. So, while you plug your Deck into charge it, it is using power made by using steam.So, yeah it is powered by steam.
>>727624747Lmao dumb FAGGOT
>>727617773I meant steam hams.
>>727625193I'm pretty sure (you) meant steam cocks, since you love cocks so much
>>727625356We cook hens, not cocks.
>>727619998Steam Deck 2 won't aim for performance that's "lower than Steam Deck [1]".It will use some evolution of the AMD SOCs that are being used in other gaming handhelds today. RDNA 5 or 6 once a suitable mobile form of it is available
>>727626627So basically, a cut-down low-powered, semi-custom version of AMD's Grimlock Point (Zen 7 and RDNA 5)?
Steam OS is total dogshit, not sure how they plan on making phones
>>727619998If nothing else, I think this definitively puts the kibosh on rumors about Valve going for ARM with a significantly performant translation layer for the Deck 2. Which is a bit of shame, honestly, since I don't think x86 has a future in anything resembling a mobile device.
>>727621239don't forget the built in spyware
>>727626627I believe they're also waiting for an advancement in battery tech
>>727617520Go fuck yourself nintendo tranny, a steam phone would be awesome.
a phone that ships with decent hardware and fully functional and meaty linux that can emulate x86 while retaining all the typical phone functionality and apk compatibility would be an instant buynot like it's that fucking hard either, phone hardware is just fucking cucked and proprietary and you could theoretically install proper linux on them had they even tried to make it work
>>727619998>good fit for lower performance, like anything lower than Steam DeckThe switch 2 is substantially stronger than the steam deck and it uses an ARM processor, Valve's hardware people are just delusional I swear.
>>727628869>substantiallylolthe cpu is atrociously bad and the gpu is just better at raytracing and it's all on a more power efficient node than the deck apu
>>727617520I absolutely fucking hate how Valve has unabashedly been going for "profit over quality" for the past decade. Everything they release is a cash grab in some way. >Trading card game!!!! We're selling out, this is sure to make us rich!!!>Games on phones! That makes a lot of money, right??https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4jPtrDCLo
>>727617520It's about their VR headsets and maybe Mac
>>727629247not having to use windows is a push for quality though???
>>727629121and yet deckies are stuck with an 800p screen in 2025
>>727629427Linux is unusable dogshit, you are living in an alternate reality. No one cares that you want to feel like an epic counter-culture rebellious hacker for using shit nonfunctional CLI software with a chain of 300 broken dependencies of which 11 have had their packages replaced with malware and 4 have been deprecated because the transgender solo dev went insane and killed xerself.
>>727617520And with what RAM chips?
>>727629472it has 200 ppi retard, it doesn't need much morewhat a bad attempt at deflectionthe switch 2 ships with the worst fucking screen released this decade, a battery half as big as the deck and controllers made to look like toys instead of being comfortable but you focus over being able to raytrace at 30fps
>>727629472>tendies talking about the Deck's screen being badLOLLMAO
>>727629625what a mentally ill and unhinged postyou sure you're not one of those trannies?linux is only unusable if you're mentally deficient and valve is taking care of those people too
>>727629958>what a mentally ill and unhinged postAbsolutely rich coming from a linux tranny
>>727630003you wrote fanfiction about linux winjeet
>>727630065>winjeetEvery accusation a confession
>>727630131>statcounter
>>727622027Microsoft has to carry a lot of legacy code for compatibility reasons but more importantly it's a moronic confederation of like 12 pajeet tribes that only sometimes decide to cooperate between calling each other bloody bitch bastard all day. The company is held afloat by Azure, the fact that shittons of companies have various custom VBA scripts they need for daily functioning so ms office is non-negotiable and people just being used to the slow decline of their products.Currently non-apple laptops are getting rolled over in developed markets because microsoft can't hope to get their arm version work properly and people don't know how to use linux.
>>727617520just release the controller already don't give a crap about your slop machine Gayben
>>727619361>Always ends up as just a development hell project where nothing works and the modem is proprietary anyway.Would be nice to see if this pushes Pinephone and others forward.
>>727630131Indian statcounter almost exclusively tracks phone browsers. >But why is it showing Linux and Windows then?Because a bad or unknown browser is going to get blacklisted, so it needs to tell the website that it is running something that is approved.
>Microsoft and Google taken down by a company with less than 400 people hiredWould be glorious ngl
I will 1000% buy a steam phone if uts running proper linux, or atleast a non locked Android. Im sick of the fact that today you either have to buy a locked down ad machine, or settle for a chink Android phone
>>727622027Apple are able to subsidise bad ideas because their customer base will overpay for basically everything.
>>727630131It's not even a shade of green anymore, LOL
A steam phone would be good actually
>>727630791>>727630180>literally every website is reporting that india is driving linux adoption>no saar, it only tracks phone browsers so it doesn't count, we are american saar, believe me
Having universal steam "apps" would be pretty cool. I'm sure developers would appreciate the porting basically being done for free.
>>727617689That's preposterous. What next, Steam trains?
>>727617520YESYESPLEASE MAKE A STEAM PHONE HOLY FUCK I CAN FINALLY ESCAPE ANDROID AND SHITTY CHINESE PHONES
>>727634584https://www.itpro.com/software/open-source/linux-just-hit-an-all-time-high-share-of-the-global-desktop-market-and-surging-user-numbers-in-india-are-driving-uptake-of-the-open-source-operating-systemThe use of Linux as a desktop operating system has hit a new high, according to new data from Statcounter.The open source operating system has appeared on just over 4% of desktops worldwide for the first time – up from just under 3% a year ago. It might not seem like much, but for a niche operating system like Linux it’s quite a big step.So what’s driving this? Looking at the Statcounter data a little more closely, one reason for the overall rise is a big jump in the use of Linux in India – up from 8% in February last year to 15% last month.lmao nigger nice sourcemeanwhile in reality, from websites that linux users actually usehttps://flathub.org/en/statisticsTotal downloads 3,580,785,825India 73,987,8892% of downloads, 17% of the world population aka vastly underrepresented
>>727620384>windowsfuck windowsI want a steam os phone.
>>727623610Yes saaar, it can get bigger.
>INDIA INDIA.>I AM AMERICAN BUT TALK ABOUT INDIA FOR ALL OF MY ONLINE TIME (THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS IN 21ST CENTURY)>INDIA INDIA!!!Do you understand how ridiculous you sound? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nk_0ywJc-o
Gamenative already lets you play steam games on android pretty damn well. I honestly don't see why the fuck Valve doesn't release an official app already.
>>727637918>pretty damn welli tried terraria and got 5 fps on what's literally steam frame's SoCfuck android honestly
>>727636779>literal chatgpt responseLMAOOO
>>727638313>chatgpti cited the retarded fucking website you brought up you dumb fucking nigger
Every steam hardware is the equivalent of netflix or prime video selling you a stationary box for your TV
>>727638080Well, I tried Spelunky 1 and Touhou Artificial Academy on my shitty old phone that I converted into an emulation machine and both ran at full speedMake sure to enable the lightweight steam client or something on the settings Terraria is also an ancient coding mess, so maybe that's the issue. Even my old PC started having troubles running it on minimum graphics after they released 1.4. Shit couldn't even hit 100% speed anymore the moment it started raining
>>727638407>saar trust me, only my source is real, i am truly an american, please trust me!it's so funny to see how hard you try.
>>727638726yes, i'll trust a website that specialises in hosting linux software and their download data over some mystery meat jeetware that can't track literally any major platform
>>727638824>Indian government announced they are changing to linux>Linux foundation is going all out on india>Linux threads on /v/Nice try ranjesh
>>727622027Microsoft never made hardware and everytime they tried they failed. Meanwhile Apple have their own fucking chips, so if anyone could rival them it would be something like Google nowadays, not MS
>>727617520>Valve gets involved in ARM translation software so the Frame can run more games>Media spins this as Steam Phones on the horizon???????????????????????
>>727617520despite phones having top-tier GPUs no one's making games for them its a huge untapped market
>>727639189all the european goverments are switching too retardno matter how much you cope you're rejecting actual reputable first party and honest datayou're desperate to trust scrapers that have been banned off all the major sites because you can't make your point otherwise
>>727639568it's the next logical step if they have tons of enginneers building FEX and their fork of waydroid they have so much expertise in the field it would be retarded not to do it steam on android will probably actually run games in the forseeable future, killing the google app store and bringing gaming to phones.
>>727636150>YES YES MAKE PLEASE MAKE A PHONE WITH 0 ACCESS TO THE MATURE APP ECOSYSTEMWell so long as you ok with only having 1 steam phone generation before it joins BlackBerry and Windows Phone in the grave for making the same retarded decision of trying to sell a piece of hardware that 99% of the market wants apps on except with none of the apps they wantAnd yes yes, I know what you're about to say, I know your contrarian "I'm not like the other girls" pick me ass thinks your retarded app-barren phone is good, the rest of this planet outside your delusional head and this Congolese basketweaving forum don't and its sales falling off a cliff after all the Valve cultist sales are finished would reflect that
>>727639738>posts walls of text trying to desperately prove he's not a jeet>n-no saar you are desperate! only reliable sources saarLMAO
>>727639890what app barren phone?you get that steam frame, running steam os, will be able to run both windows programmes and android apps, right?
>>727639761>it's the next logical step if they have tons of enginneers building FEXLmao and here we are, repeating history as valvecuck cultists start crediting Valve for all the work other people have done on FEX. Just like how you faggots slurp Gabes dick for Proton when they Valve has less than 0.3% of the commits to it.
>>727639894again, the wall of text was a fucking quote from the article you brought up a picture ofclick the damn link, you already did that onceyou quite literally cannot find a source about this mythical jeet linux population that doesn't involve a journo statcounter circlejerk while i have first party data showing linux is underrepresented in india
>>727640078you're trying too hard ranjesh
>>727617520by all means YES! time to bring those greedy phone days to their knees. hope they copy the Sony phone, that thing was perfect for emulation
>>727620384>Windows on Arm is like Android on a tabletthose two things are not even remotely similar
>>727640149you have quite literally nothing left in the tankyou're discrediting your own sources as chatgpt lmaofind me even one site that has anywhere near the retarded 15% number that doesn't cite statcounteryou won't because that requires scrubbing hundreds of websites only to come up with nothing
>>727617520Soon it's going to be Steam Office and then Steam AI solutions.
>>727640653there are fifty different open source offices already, valve just needs to pick one and give it some money
>>727619692Obviously you should have to mail in payment to valve amd expect to be able to play your game in 2-3 weeks (if the post office employees dont outright steal it)
>>727640067lol winjeet, so desperate to be contrarian he blindly seethes at everythinghttps://fex-emu.com/FEXiversary/>Hey everyone! In light of the recent product announcements using FEX, I wanted to take a moment to celebrate our anniversary! On this day seven years ago (28th Nov 2018), I landed the first commit in the prototype project that would eventually become FEX-Emu! I want to thank the people from Valve for being here from the start and allowing me to kickstart this project. They trusted me with the responsibility of designing and frameworking the project in a way that it can work long-term; not only for their use cases but also keeping it an open project that anyone can adapt for their own use cases.
>>727617603Yes but that was ARM only. The valve frame has built in x86 emulation AND windows emulation, meaning it will run windows VR games on an ARM cpu running Linux.Which opens the door for running desktop windows games on your phone.
>>727641960hope it doesn't stop at just porting proton to android, i want to be rescued from android the same way i was rescued from windowsrooting your phone is a fucking horrible experience
Pitch the Valve approved flagship gacha, /v/
Obsessed
>>727642882Yeah imagine telling 1980s computer nerds that portable computers exist, except the BIOS is permanently locked and you don't get access to driver install files.If Valve can make a Linux phone that would be amazing. True desktop capability.You can make a phone into a desktop using anbox + xorg but it's really hacky and janky. Requires a Samsung DeX enabled device and USB C laptop dock.
>>727617520Maybe its cheaper for them to make an ARM steam deck 2 than an x64 one so they're doing this
>>727644912silicon wafers don't get cheaper because they're armif anything amd would make the price lower since they're doing way less r&d to just cut down some of their existing shit
>>727617603That was because the Snapdragon X chips those use only ever got Windows support. Qualcomm are really shitty about releasing drivers for things to the point where a ton of Linux projects based on that chip series have been shelved. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 at least has Android phone support so you can run a Linux based OS on it fairly easily
>>727644576more of the higher end ARM chips from rockchip and CIX are getting uefi support so they're not entirely locked down
>Steam Empire in 2050
>>727623610Valve is a privately owned company with no plans to go public and no plans to rapidly grow it staff. Gabe does little side projects like the Deck, the Cube and VR but they haven't made a real game in over a decade, the only thing they excel at is running the steam platform and helping devs optimize games for SteamOS. They'll never grow to be as big as Nvdia and they have no interest in making memory modules let alone getting into gpu/cpu design architecture.X86 is still far more powerful then ARM and it can be just as efficient if it's not being run on windows 11. ARM isn't gonna be used in anything but budget laptops and Apple product any time soon.
Steam needs to cancel the retarded steam frame, focus on deck 2 and FEX, subsidize and get steam machine sub $600 with the money saved and then when prices are solidified do some meme tech.Why are they trying to sabotage themselves with censorship, bad hardware decisions and high console prices? They arent lenovo.
Steam an hero shooter
>>727648292
Steam needs to add at least 12 gigs to that box. But man they might save the west right now.
>>727648181nah, all the new hardware is great for different reasonspersonally i'd love the idea of vr where all the setup involved is plugging in a dongle
>>727625356>meant steam cocks, since you love cocks so muchused to post the GOTCHA guy
>>727648181Why do people expect magic with the deck 2? They're going to go a low-end route again.
Should I replace my old lumia 750 or wait for gabephone?
>>727617520this phone was awesome...but didnt overtake the fucking 'iphone' in one fiscal quarter...so of course, dropped. i hate this world
>>727649051the closest you can get spiritually to a gabephone is by buying the fairphone 6 since it should be capable of installing linux soon just like every past fairphone
>>727617603The OP article is clickbait niggershit, Valve isn't making phones anytime soon. Actual article is Valve experimenting with ARM processors and PowerPCs because non-gaming tech sectors are seeing performance gains with the newest iterations, something that isn't happening with traditional configurations, and because ARM devices can be made smaller that ties back into what they want with the Steam Machines, Deck, and VR.
>>727647972>X86 is still far more powerful then ARMApple and Unified memory would like to have a word with you.
>>727649392>Valve isn't making phones anytime soonIt's very likely they make a modified steam OS phone that runs x86 desktop windows games and Android apps.
