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Jp Interview https://www.4gamer.net/games/966/G096641/20251205009/

In a recent interview, Shuhei Yoshida talked about his impression of the Chinese video game industry, and one of its giants, miHoYo.
Former Sony executive and video game industry veteran Shuhei Yoshida recently attended WePlay Expo 2025, one of the biggest indie game events in China. In an interview with 4Gamer, he talked about his impression of the Chinese video game industry after seeing it up close, and pointed out some differences he’s noticed compared to the game industry in Japan.
“The development speed in China is amazing. They’re also quick at changing personnel, and all of the game development work itself unfolds rapidly,” Yoshida remarked. The large production scale of Chinese games has been a hot topic among Japanese creators, and even seasoned industry veterans like Yoshida seem to agree when it comes to specific fields like animation.
Reminiscing on his past encounters with Genshin Impact developer miHoYo, the former executive suggested that Japan still has a long way to go to match the scope and speed of Chinese development.
“Back when I talked to representatives of miHoYo, we discussed how it would be quite difficult for Japanese developers to make games in the same way miHoYo does. Not to mention the legal problems that would come with it,” said Yoshida. “I wonder if there are some aspects [of the development process] that Japanese game developers just can’t replicate. One reason why games in China are so strong is because they are made in an environment which allows for hiring a large number of personnel who can work long hours. Of course, you never know what might happen in the near future, but looking at the current state of things, I think that’s the biggest factor.”
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>>727631267
Holy shit it's Sonic The Hedgehog
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China's vidya scene is dominated primarily by one company who exclusively makes gachas. I guess there's Wukong, but that's one game. Most gachas crash and burn, and the few successful gachas still play third fiddle to Mihoyo's shit.
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^ put this in subject filter to hide dumbfuck [SAD NEWS], [GREAT NEWS] posts
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>>727631267
>Japan treats programming as a janitorial profession.
>Software is strictly just a necessary evil.
>Why do the few autists who persist and just want to make vidya in Japan don't scale up to the cream of the crop of a brutally competitive and highly demanded software dev job market in China?
Truly a mystery for the ages. Japanese game devs are all strictly random hobbyists. They don't even fathom the idea of building up one's skillset, keeping up with the tech and all that jazz.
Of course they take decades to make anything even resembling a modern game compared to a hired cadre of overpaid professional stars.
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Isn't China pushing some 60 hours a week, 7 days work schedule for tech jobs?
Can't blame anyone for not competing with literal slave conditions.

When they burn out their youth and have to deal with a demographic shift on top, China will suffer greatly.
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>>727633346
>Isn't China pushing some 60 hours a week, 7 days work schedule for tech jobs?
Depends on the jobs in question. If you're the absolute best of the best, you get to work at miHoYo and they have a strict 9-5 policy they genuinely stick to.
It's basically a dream job for these folks in an otherwise brutally exploitative market.
But we're comparing them to the Japanese work market, which is equally as fucked for office workers. Hence all the isekai.
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China is willing to take more risks than Japan which is why they are getting left behind. Also there is the age problem where its mostly old people in these japanese companies while on the china side its younge people which goes back into the risk taking.
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>>727631952
Thanks
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>>727635225
Can you even show boobs in Chinese games?
They have super strict laws.
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>>727631267
Good. Fuck 'em. I hate how popular gacha is and how it reflects on my hobby and humanity as a whole. Total Jap Death.
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>>727633346
Both countries have most of their population on the absolute gutter. Japan is famous for their low birthrates but China is just as fucked when it comes to it desu
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>>727631267
>we just can't compete
They really are the NTR nation
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>>727631267
Owari da, Nihon.
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>>727631267
>mihoyo
lmao
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I remember when the retarded Jap devs were saying the same thing in the 00s and early 10s except while sucking off western devs and look where western gamedev is now
This might as well be a kiss of death for chink game development
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It's funny how China treats Naruto with more respect with the Naruto Mobile game in it's trailers than fucking Japan does.
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>>727631952
thanks. these threads scream leftism since they need to be told how to feel.
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>>727631267
>because they are made in an environment which allows for hiring a large number of personnel who can work long hours
That means they all wish they were working normal hours in Japan instead.
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>>727631952
thanks o7
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>>727641424
>working normal hours
>in japan
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>>727631267
>miHoYo
I gave these people money. Please forgive me, Jesus son of God.
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Whatever, I'll never touch a single gacha game in my life
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>>727635225
>China is willing to take more risks than Japan
>fantasy gacha
>modern fantasy gacha
>futuristic fantasy gacha
>Wuxia game #643
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>>727642794
Unlimited soulless slop, forever.
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>>727631267
I'm really tired of chinksects thinking they can compete with anyone other than themselves.
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>>727631267
>Shuhei Yoshida
>"who the fuck?"
>google his ass
>made literally nothing but slop for the westernized snoy for the last decade and half
this guy doesn't even count as a japanese dev, the fuck is he on about
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>>727642794
Compared to?
>censored remake
>another censored remake
>walking simulator which is made with hr in the room
>afking on beloved franchises
I still love some Jap ips but they are really falling off.
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>>727633346
>60 hrs a week
That shit is everywhere around the world bro. I had to do that same shit for months in the land of the free
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>>727635225
"A BOTW+Nier automata copy" several times over is the antithesis of "taking risks" anon.
In fact japan, especially AA devs, are taking far more risks than the entirety of chinks combined due to still releasing real games, meanwhile no matter how dogshit a gacha is, they can recoup the dev costs with the first week of launch revenue and then abandon the game after getting the money.
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>>727631267
>Shuhei Yoshida
Nobldy cares
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I have no problem with china finally making shit that the rest of the world likes for a change.
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Chinese games look impressive and are technically amazing but I can't help but feel like they kind of lack soul or something interesting. I'm probably biased thiugh and maybe I haven't looked into them too much but they feel like theyre creatively bankrupt and are just concerned with selling mass produced beautiful characters.
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>>727631267
>One reason why games in China are so strong is because they are made in an environment which allows for hiring a large number of personnel who can work long hours
so slave labor lmao
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>>727640275
Yes even that is completely beyond the scope of Japanese studios. It would take them 4 years to make Natlan alone. Did you forget TotK? Should've taken a year, that game, but not in Japan
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>>727644441
And what do you think happens in Japanese studios
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>>727644446
nigga even the entirety of genshit has less depth than ToTK, this is not a good comparison when hoyo spent more on natlan alone than nintendo did on ToTK when they already had BOTW
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>>727631267
>no innovations
>becoming woker every time
no wonder they're dying out
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Someone post the blue archive comiket stats so we can really get this bait thread going
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>>727645372
this?
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>>727645015
ToTK was basically an asset flip that somehow still took 6 years to get out and it was forgotten in a few months time. Even if Genshin spends more, it doesn't change the fact Nintendo was wasting time and money. Instead of making a new map, Nintendo spent over half a decade making a physics and building system that was unnecessary and didn't have anywhere near the longevity of the first game. Nintendo has been wasting their time with real dumb ideas rather than taking something that works and make it better (which is what Sakurai does and people suck his dick endlessly). Yeah, Chinks make generic games, but sometimes you don't need to reinvent the wheel. Mihoyo took Nintendo's success and ran with it, ultimately making more money than Nintendo ever could. Nintendo instead wasted their time and made a dud. Genshin will be remember longer than ToTK
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>>727646171
>creativity doesn't matter, it's about money chud
yeah look at how much the pokemon TCG gacha makes, to the point the chart fujos vehemently refuse to count the JP server of it because it would rape raw literally everything else short of FGO with a big banner
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Japs have gone woke and broke. I wish China finishes the job and absolves them completely since their value already depleted. Japanese culture is cringe and they never apologized for their war crimes.
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>>727631267
Both sides are making shit games anyway
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>>727631267
>China good
CCP propaganda
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>>727631267
defeated nation
get jeeted
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How is Taiwan doing?
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>>727640084
This gachashit is a plague and I hope these Japanese niggers get one billion Nigerians
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Nintendo and Fromsoft are turning for the worst and most other Jap companies have become irrelevant and shit. Stuff from China and Korea is the only good thing coming these past years.
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>>727640187
Why aren't people aware that the NATIVE birth rate of European countries is even worse than Japan?
Only reason countries are not demographically collapsing is because of immigration.
Even FUCKING INDIA of all places is almost below replacement level now.
NOBODY wants to have kids.
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>>727633346
Yes, stereotypically programmers are doing 9-9-6 and there's even talk of 0-0-7.
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The West (Europe)>=China>Korea>Taiwan>Japan>The West(U.S and Canada)
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>>727640275
Only brown Indonesian haremtards who want to self insert into a Sung Jinwoo are bothered by Chinese Link.
GO WHITE BOY GO
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>>727647132
Millennials are healing this planet. We should stay at a steady 4 billion to sustain this place before it makes another Great Dying extinction event. Kids are expensive and life draining with no good return in the end.
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Why are the chinese so obsessed with what random japanese businessmen think of them?
If you want people to think you're better than make better games and not just copy-paste gachas.
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>>727631952
Came for this. Fuck OP and Gacha slop
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>>727647537
Is this your first time encountering the Chinese?
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>>727647537
The OP link is a japanese article, retard.
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>>727631267
No reason to compete: just keep being you
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>>727648134
You started everything
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>>727648204
All that is is cause Japan did it
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>>727648079
And the OP is obviously chinese.
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>competing
>Barely puts any effort
>Endless self sabotage
>Listening to libtard Californians' "consultants"
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>>727648328
Right? All chianese movies focus on how japan is so bad
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>>727631743
There was Wuchang, and the recent global release of Where Winds Meet has been pretty successful too I think.
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I asked Gemini to write a summary of the interview.
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>>727631952
THANK YOU!
I'm so sick of these shitty insincere headline threads clearly made by a retard wanting to farm (you)s.
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>>727648589
>DISCORD

No fucking wonder everything is going to shit if they listen to fucking Discord "people".
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>>727631267
>China mogging through pure numbers
>worst korea is winning the culture war
How does Japan realistically turn it around? A 2 on 1 is tough no matter how you look at it.
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It's easy to make games fast when they all have exactly the same art design and combat.
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>>727647537
I think it's more along the lines that the japanese are impressed that the Chinese actually just solved the manpower problem by hiring a million people, instead of hiring software guys who can write scripts to do the work of a million people with the authorship of a single person (which is typically how game development goes).
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>>727644409
I'd say it's definitely bias. How do you measure soul? If it's about passion for the game itself, I'd say you can definitely feel that in Wukong for instance, even if the idea for the gameplay was mostly not original.
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>>727648807
>Touken Ranbu that high

Holy shit. I underestimated the sword homos.
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>>727648807
Japan went through multiple phase where they look inward, then outward, than inward again. Since around 2015 they are looking outward, but they will begin to look inward in a few years.
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>>727648807
China makes games for Japanese consumers, Japan makes games for American consumers. to close this trifecta Americans make games for no one.
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>>727649056
>somehow beat Azure Lane
kek
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>>727648807
>comiket smelliest fanfic event
>culture war
lmao
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>>727631267
>One reason why games in China are so strong is because they are made in an environment which allows for hiring a large number of personnel who can work long hours. Of course, you never know what might happen in the near future, but looking at the current state of things, I think that’s the biggest factor.”
"If only we could work our slaves even harder, but alas..."
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>>727640275
Look at him go!
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>>727631267
All these retards have to do is make an open world version of FGO, but they either refuse to or are completely incapable of doing it
Probably the latter since fromsoft seem to be the only nip devs left that can make a decent game the isn't turn based
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>>727648807
>comiket number mean popularity
The reality is 80% of japs looking down on otaku trash like comiket
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>>727649695
... I am not interested in entertainment for children and mentally undeveloped adults though.
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>>727649772
> entertainment for children and mentally undeveloped adults
Surely you’re not talking about gacha, stream whore and anime?
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>>727649676
Fromslop fails at making good games and are in a downward spiral. Wuchang and Lies of P proved that no name chink and gook studios can mog them in one go.
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>>727649695
You are a moron
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>>727650112
> Wuchang and Lies of P
lol 2 of the most shameless soulsclone with more parryslop
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>>727649676
Japan isnt willing to put money into something like that.
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>>727650153
I’m sorry but Japan isn’t your anime land you fucking subhuman cockwhore
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>>727650616
You're not getting that izzat back, you better find a bridge to jump off.
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>>727650112
Yes Saaaaar, Wuchang and Lies of Piss are so good all the discussion about them on 4chin literally dead one week after released Saaaaaar!
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>>727650098
The list you posted is almost exclusively anime/manga for kids under the age of 10.
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>>727631267
>The development speed in China is amazing. They’re also quick at changing personnel, and all of the game development work itself unfolds rapidly
I wouldn't trust chinese speed too much because its always just a sign of corner cutting and shoddy craftmanship. Games like Black Myth Wukong were good precisely because the devs DID NOT develop it fast. It was years in the making.
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>>727631267
China is doing good because they are straight up stealing shit from other games either by having access to the files or recreating them one to one
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>>727649772
> ... I am not interested in entertainment for children and mentally undeveloped adults though.
Man, what are you even doing here?
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>>727651274
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>>727650847
> anime/manga for kids under the age of 10.
>kochikame
>fist of the north star
> anime/manga for kids under the age of 10
Nigga what?
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>>727651182
there is alot of cargocult programming going on (why is every AAA chinese game a souls clone?) but it appears that this may just be a transitory step towards developing their games industry.
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>>727650871
The speed only matters in throwaway games they can make by the dozens to keep the money circulating, so not an issue for them chinks

A few heads roll with every failure but it's a feature not a bug, they're trying to find subtler, better ways to get the money to exchange hands domestically

The chinks have a frugal population mentally stuck in slave-state mode, they save their money and don't spend it unless it's on some culturally approved shit like their shitty alcohol or their new year trips but the government wants that cash exchanging hands so you get a machinegun of crap trying to find a winner

i agree the chinks can do decent work if they take their time though
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>some washed up piece of shit has a retarded opinion

cool i don't remember asking though
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>>727631743
Gotta start somewhere, may as well be something every retard can play on every phone.
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>>727631743
all Chinese games are of teenagers living in a city of robots and furries. Japanese games are more interesting.
Silent Hill cant exist in China
Layton cant exist in China
Devil May Cry cant exist in China
Sonic cant exist in China
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>>727651764
And romance can’t exist in china
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>>727631267
The strongsuit of the Japanese was never technical proficiency or development speed, it's an actual understanding of the medium. Japanese devs are autist gamers that make what gamers want. China and the USA make corporate products with little regard for game design. There's a reason China is known for mobileslop.
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>>727651902
The only reason I can even think of for Leena being in this image is to explain the 86 anime being pretentious crap instead of teen romance with China and that is probably not the intent and they probably just picked randomly.
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>>727632863
This is a very funny paradox, because at the same time we have Japanese games with Indian level of coding, they are also unironically the only people that care to make fun games, if most of Japanese companies were private they wouldn't have to bow to Jewish companies and wouldn't have to copy chink games.
>>727647132
Wef will win l guess
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>>727631267
Yet, china still doesn't have any good game, they only make shitty copy pasted gachashit and garbage like wukong, they have thousands of literal slaves getting paid enough to not starve to make that garbage
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>>727651902
This is good. Romance production in anime is garbage level.
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>>727644446
BOTW and TOTK has way more depth than any of those games.
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>>727633346
China has the lowest pay for game devs with the most hours, they are basically what Korea used to be 10-15+ years ago. They are the modern slaves who are getting fucked in the ass, except this time they are the perfect slave race and 0 effort is being done to change the working conditions in their country
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>>727643923
And yet China is even worse. They take 0 risks, bring 0 innovation, and are only producing waifus. Korean coom games actually did take risks with innovative new combat systems which is how action MMOs took off
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>>727652049
the fundamental difference is that japanese games are games in a platonic sense so even with poverty level production values it still respects the player's agency. Devil May Cry 3 isnt a game that could be made be either american or chinese developers. different design philosophies.
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>>727631267
Japan makes 99% of the world's real games.
stinky chinkies havent made anything other than derivative gachaslop no one knows or cares about, and requires billions in marketing yearly to retain any semblance of relevance

Know your place, trash
taiwain is a country btw
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Chink devs just copy shit from other games with no shame. The rest of the world generally puts their own twist on what ever game they are copying but chinks just straight up copy it
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Japan is better cause they actual real singeplayer offline games and not dogshit you'll own nothing gacha
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I really don't get this retarded /pol/ adjacent shitposting style where you treat whole countries like sports teams
These smoothbrained China/Korea vs Japan threads keep popping up on here and /a/ and literally nothing happens in them besides vapid propagandaposting and salesfaggotry.
It's like an even more cancer version of console wars.

Am I LITERALLY dealing with the chicom united front work apparatus here or is it just psyopped SEAfags and gacha chattel treating this place like a playground?
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>Japanese developers
>slower to move to 3D because they are too used to 2D
>most gacha devs used to make low complexity VN and thus struggle because they now need to add actual gameplay
>bigger, more experience devs don't see much money in domestic market and focused more on AAA games targeted to global market
>high franchise power trivialize actual development and innovation. Fate, Gundam, Pokemon and other large and know franchise can just cook up low poly, low effort slop and people would still buy them
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>>727631267
I thought we didn't like AAA games here. He said their secret sauce is a large staff with long hours. That means big budget too.
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>>727631743
You're forgetting the best game China made so far: Eastward.
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>>727644031
uuuh non.
I work 39h a week, IT project manager. And have 9.5 weeks of paid leave per year.
t. french
t. going skiing next week. And again mid January. And probably in March again.
Imagine being a corporate slave.
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>>727653736
People are sick of chinks and gooks coming here praising their shitty media while we all know it's literal shit compared to Japanese media
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My money is on Indonesian game devs
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>>727646171
Totk should've been $30 expansion pack that was released 1 year later.
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>>727647132
>Only reason countries are not demographically collapsing is because of immigration.

demographics are collapsing because of immigration you evil kike.
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>>727631267
It makes sense. They CAN'T make large scale anime games because of japanese laws and fees cucking them, On top of that they can hire a fuckton of "slaves" and pay them the minimum wage like china does
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Pedoric "knot king" clittycel.....
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>>727631267
They gave up on everything including anime and manga. Everything is dogshit low quality or isekai or yet another romcon or shonen. So it's not surprising that their games are also dogshit, low quality and low budget as 90s crisis buckbroke them forever. Their mentality of doing maxium revenue with minimum effort and budget has to stop it can't work anymore and never will work again unless you are small indie dev.
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>>727654289
>overhaul the whole world
>add underground world
>design the whole building system
>make a new story
>add new weapons
All this in one year?
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>>727631267
Call me when they make actual games instead of f2p login dailies simulator gacha slop
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>>727642794
which is way more risk than
>farming slop
>turn based jrpg slop
>2d low effort gacha that they will shut down after few months
>soulless remake slop
every time for eternity, chinks have much more cooler ideas than nips that got stuck in 90s and never recovered
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>>727645015
Totk has no depth it's just a boring copy of gmod physics with no soul, your open world is derivative of ubislop. Nothing about their dogshit zeldas is original
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>>727654678
>anime/manga reader are mostly teenager from 13-20 years old
>grrrrrrr isekai or yet another romcon or shonen i’m so tired of reading teenager comic
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>>727654779
yeah BOTW world felt like procedural crap so they may as well could pump 5 games in 5 years
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>>727654393
japs deserved to be colonized by chink gacha for having fucking terrible taste in videogames.
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>>727654825
> chinks have much more cooler ideas
Like the dozen of chink soulsclones?
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>>727654963
>what is seinen
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>>727643923
You don't think Chinese games have censorship?
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>>727651764
on the topic of games that can't exist in china
i can't name a single noteworthy raceism game from china
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>>727635225
>China is willing to take more risks than Japan
LOL
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>>727642794
this, gacha slop is like the least risky option for anything
even if it's not super successful if you get enough retarded whales to fund it it'll stay afloat for quite some time
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>>727655332
They are also cheap to make so if you got some capital you can shit out multiple gachas and as long as one of them is a decent hit you make all your money back and more
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>>727655074
Most of seinen are just pretentious crap for edgy teenager and manchildren, and it doesn’t sell
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Imagine a timeline where china makes crappy knockoffs of eveything and people keep buying it. Fueling their economy even further

Oh wait. this is the clown timeline lmao
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>>727631267
Mihoyo games have english subs for global audience, japonese games have not.
White people aren't supporting japanese gacha games calling it a slop, while SEA funding chinese gacha games.
Chinese AAA are chinese while japan AAA are literal LA with tons of nigger, like ff7.
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Chink games are all shit

Kys chink
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>>727655563
Chink AAA are jap rip offs. Fuck off chink
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>>727655016
That has nothing to do with what I said, you stupid chink (jeet)
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>>727655131
censoring female characters' butt (not even pantsu, just clothed/shorts) with bubbles when swimming in genshin is still the funniest shit
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Doesn't this show Japanese aren't that fussed about old beef between countries and will consume Chinese stuff (no boycott).

Also Chinese can introduce male gaze whilst all the big Japanese studios have taken ESG pledges. If they start doing good single player games with male gaze and not just gacha, they effetively have a monopoly on it (and the rest of the world too because it's not like the west is doing anything and Korea is just one game - Stella Blade).
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>>727655762
Too bad all chink games are shit
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>>727631952
needs to be more generic. notice how he use [ } for this post
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>>727654825
> chinks have much more cooler ideas than nips that got stuck in 90s and never recovered
Yeah like monkey soulsclone or censored soulsclone or kungfu parryslop
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>>727655762
Stellar Blade is so boring with forgettable characters especially the MC, and the combat is mediocre as fuck too, and i don’t like the kpop nier-like ost
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Chink gacha slop

Kill all chinks
Kill all chinks
Kill all chinks
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>>727655861
truly the buggiest of bug people.
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>>727655594
what the fuck happened there
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Let China repeat the West's mistake by going the AAA route.
Japan is for AA.
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i visited china on my way to japan, their river water was brown, their water fountains dispensed boiling hot BROWN water to drink
it was disgusting as fuck
japan is better
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>>727655762
>all the big Japanese studios have taken ESG pledges
Isn't it just Square Enix and Capcom?
The former seems to be struggling while the latter is eroding the goodwill it built up

>>727657609
You must have visited one of the cities that didn't get CCP development money
China is a mixed bag, but the best they have to offer is on par with Japan's best
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>>727653398
China literally only copies shit, I literally can't think of a Chinese game or gacha that innovated on something, even wuwa the current best Chinese crap gacha is just a genshit copy with better graphics and dmc like combat.
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>>727647132
>Why aren't people aware that the NATIVE birth rate of European countries is even worse than Japan?
>Only reason countries are not demographically collapsing is because of immigration.
You answered your question and if you think you didn't, think who's behind the second.
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>>727631267
All the good anime and art is coming out of china anyway, this isn't surprising.
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>>727657854
They sometimes get innovative when the game is about cultivation and other Chinese-specific stuff
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>>727658652
No one but ccp tards watch Chinese cartoons, yeah cartoons that crap ain't anime, and Chinese artists are not nearly as famous as jp and kr ones, they are almost western tier.
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>>727657727
>on par with japan
obviously not, when its brown boiled water coming out of the water fountains
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>>727655762
>Doesn't this show Japanese aren't that fussed about old beef between countries and will consume Chinese stuff
Yes, this is called westoid individualism sloppa, it's destroying any kind of nationalism just fine
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>>727646341
>creativity doesn't matter, it's about money chud
>Missing the point this bad

Notice how I never mentioned revenue. Genshin is a more relevant game and series than ToTK. Fuck, it's nominated for Game of the Year AGAIN, 6 years after it came out. BoTW was a massive success and was getting Youtube videos about it up until the ToTK came out. Nintendo squandered it with ToTK and now people want to be done with the new style of Zelda. Genshin took the easy layup and is now more successful and more recognizable than Zelda ever will be. Nintendo snatched defeat from the jaws of victory because they had to fuck with a good thing.

Sometime, a sequel can just be iterative. You don't have to completely reinvent the game each time.
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>>727658963
If you frequent a lot of anime websites you'll notice how all the good art is from chinese usernames, also to be hero X completely shat on the japanese anime industry, both it's animation and artstyle completely outdid everything japan has produced since akira and that was a movie and not an episodic anime.
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>>727658996
>gayshit is more famous than Zelda will ever be
Delusional chincksect lmao, that crappy gacha is only played by 3rd worlders, ccp shills, children with downs and groomers, it wasn't nominated for game of the year by the way stupid chincksect
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>>727659223
I've been watching anime for +20 years, you are full of shit retarded zoomer, it looks like crap and it's crap over all.
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>>727659286
>gayshit is more famous than Zelda will ever be
That's the impression you legitimately have when you're in their bubble
Mihoyo wishes they'd have the brand recognition from older Japanese studios like Sega or Konami, let alone Nintendo
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>>727654114
>French
Discarded. Come back when you have an IT scene worth talking about.
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>>727659223
>all the good art is from chinese usernames

and all they do is produce gaudy overproduced anime drawings with no vision or personality to it.
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>>727640084
Anon isn't the vast vast VAST majority of gatcha revenue in china?
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>>727660307
Hey, at least French devs get to have a lot of benefits on top of a healthy work-life balance
Japanese devs only have job security
Both have shit pay compared to the US tho
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Except successful gachas use japanese VA's and english writers so the country vs country argument falls apart.
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>english writers
kek lol lmao even
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>>727659286
You're not even jap, subhuman westoid. Muttoids/westoids have not produced any game worth palying for the last decade, subhuman faggot.
Even mentally ill tranny nigger worshippers aren't buying and playing tranny nigger mutt westoid games
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>>727660496
I still remember when Genshin first launched the most viewed video was that sorceress lady's jp VA climbing a mountainside. They straight up hired her to go full slutty breathy moans and it worked.
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>>727660496
I don't recall any gacha having Veilguard-tier writing.
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>>727649676
I always say they should do <thing> with <IP> but they never do anything with them. All these different IP's are WASTED on GACHA TRASH or like Bamco, used on shitty arena fighters and gacha trash. Nothing is being done with these IPs at all.
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>>727631267
Isn't Genshin literally imploding right now?
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>>727631952
Thanks, tired of these wumao posts
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>>727635225
>china
>risks
oh my god yet another hoyoclone gacha game? so risky, so daring
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>>727631267
[Sad news]
Japan lost
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Recently, China's domestically produced comac C919 passenger jet model has carried its 500 000th passenger. The first model was inducted last year, 9 models are now in service. This marks a significant milestone in China's commercial aviation industry.
did you know japan tried to build their own too but failed?
why china can build commercial jet but japanese can't?
look up mitsubishi spacejet
>development suspended
>As flight testing took longer than expected, the scheduled entry into service was further pushed back until development was first paused amid the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on aviation[2] and subsequently suspended indefinitely.[3]
oh no no no
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>>727661472
it's simple. japan is still occupied and is not allowed to compete with major US industries after what it did to detroit.
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>>727661367
>Azur Lane
Blame Kancolle devs for dropping the ball
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>>727661549
it seems American soldiers are also free to do as they please in Japan, since they own the place. this includes getting away with rape and murder. the Americans also live in large mcmansions while the Japanese live in tiny shitbox apartments.
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>>727661997
There are documented cases of American soldiers getting Japanese wives, all with full consent and it being a win-win for both parties
Not sure why you'd mention rape and murder
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>>727661472
>why china can build commercial jet but japanese can't?
because chinks literally just stole an airbus and poached the old guard of soviet aircraft engineering from russia (for cheap because russians paid them nothing) to help them reverse-engineer it (and teach their own homegrown engineers so they can steal a different airbus to reverse-engineer later). mitsubishi had to do everything from scratch.
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>>727662172
>There are documented cases of American soldiers getting Japanese wives, all with full consent and it being a win-win for both parties
true, no japanese woman would choose to marry their own if they had an american GI as an option. this was the case even before ww2. there's a famous opera made about this kind of love story called madama butterfly.
>Not sure why you'd mention rape and murder
2 things can be true at the same time, both worth mentioning
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>>727661472
>comac C919
oh, the jet that sent more than 5 people to prison over proven theft from boeing and airbus?
the jet that started flying in 2023 in china but still can't get approval by anyone else to fly into airspace because they can't prove it's safe?
>9 models are now in service
LOL
go check out how many they planned to build per year after that first successful flight (150+ per year) and how many are in service nearly 3 years later (less than 25)
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>>727662262
isn't it fair? japan had a century head start on china in terms of institutional advantages, education, industrialization, experience with financial capitalism, and post-ww2 american aid. china had none of that.
china helped america contain the soviet union in the cold war and should be entitled to the spoils of its defeat, especially as most educated russians fled to america and founded companies like google.
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>>727662404
>go check out how many they planned to build per year after that first successful flight (150+ per year) and how many are in service nearly 3 years later (less than 25)
how many mitsubishi zero are in service? maybe that's what "zero" meant.
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China and a wall goes toe to toe in a lying competition.
China comes out on top
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>>727662336
>true, no japanese woman would choose to marry their own if they had an american GI as an option.
If that's true, why can't subhuman military mutts stop raping Japanese women?
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>>727662589
nobody should be entitled
and they pull off that shit with anyone, no matter the size
go invent some new gadget to sell, and within a week there will be aggressively priced chinese copies on aliexpress, even if it's something stupid and thoroughly useless like a strainer spork because the idea is not that they get profit, the idea is to drag you down
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>>727662840
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>>727662901
>the idea is not that they get profit, the idea is to drag you down
selling at a loss to undercut your competitors and drive them out of business is a valid strategy, it's not illegal
sony basically did it to nintendo for a while
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>>727642794
You struck a nerve with that post.
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>>727662172
>Not sure why you'd mention rape and murder
Indian hours, please understand sars.
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Chinese and an Indian goes against each other in a scamming competition
It's a tie
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>>727631267
it's weird that mihoyo pours so many resources into their games but they can't seem to find a single writer who isn't completely braindead. it doesn't make sense
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>>727663171
>india is why wigger pigjeets rape japanese women
lol
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>>727662986
there is a difference between allocating some of the revenue to make a loss leader that will get people into the ecosystem and start spending, which quickly returns to sustainable profits once there are enough playstations in people's homes, and state-sanctioned "pound them until they go bankrupt, no matter the cost" backed by party's infinite money
sony and nintendo are within an order of magnitude from each other so they can't kill each other unless one of them royally fucks up (rip xbox), but nobody can feasibly fight the might of the entire china with an agenda of "everything should be chinese", paid for by the things that are already chinese with no foreign alternative as they've all been snuffed out
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>>727631267
That's what happens when an economy is growing.
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>there are "people" on this board who actually play gacha garbage
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>>727657727
>Isn't it just Square Enix and Capcom?
Ha
haha
hahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahah
https://careers.nintendo.com/diversity-equity-and-inclusion/
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>>727631267
they cant make anything new though. everything they've ever made is just derivative of stuff that already exists, sometimes to a great degree. It just tracks with how the Chinese are culturally, as far as lacking creativity and being unable to innovate. In some ways, videogames as a stagnating medium are perfectly set up for their domination, because people seem to want derivative slop there. Nobody wants anything new, they just want a slight spin on something they already know they like.
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>>727663339
the ccp can't subsidize every business in the country. mihoyo is one of their most valuable companies now, they don't undercut anyone (their gacha is expensive), and they don't get government subsidies.
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>>727663254
>shitpost all thread
>it was the Indian post that got them riled up
Only redeeming my point sars
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>>727663528
>cheats on husband
>creates new religion
this is what white cvcks worship
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>>727663616
cope more cumskin
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>>727663558
mhy is a bit of an interesting case because they are kind of operating despite china and not because of china. they do take advantage of the chinese labor market, but they explicitly don't want to have anything to do with the party because that would mean giving up creative control, and they have repeatedly shown thinly veiled willingness to run the fuck away from china before the party inevitably catches up to them.
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China makes only gachaslop for phones.
Japan makes games that are actually worth playing.
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One was asked which nation is worse than the other.
China or India?
The person said "Ah that's a trick question. They're both terrible"
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>>727659286
genshin is unironically more popular with the fortnite generation than zelda is, and that's just a fact
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>>727663431
DA FUK!?
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>>727663904
this reads like a genshin impact weapon description
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>>727631528
is SEGA winning the console war?
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>>727663970
A testament to the quality of the joke.
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>>727636920
Can you even show boobs in Japanese or American games? I'm pretty sure MasterCard and VISA will just deplatform you and lock your bank account for good measure.
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>>727657727
>Isn't it just Square Enix and Capcom?
it's all of them
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>>727648807
>How does Japan realistically turn it around
That's not possible unless they get out from under America's boot. Just like how America completely fucked their entire semiconductor industry with the Chips act and Plaza Accord, they also fucked them (indirectly) with ESG bullshit.
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>>727648493
WWM is just a genshin clone with lipstick
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>>727663528
>jewish "scientists" say
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>>727664254
yes, you worship a jew, white cuck
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chinese propaganda threads are so weird, they don't even try to hide it
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>>727663970
fucking GOLD
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>>727663616
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>>727631952
{GREAT WORK) anon
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Well yeah, Japan will never have this because China is basically a giant factory and the CCP doesnt see their own people as human beings but as drones to be replaced when they break down, hence why they can mass-produce slop in less time because there are 1 billion drones ready to be dispatched.
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>>727649676
Fate is an /a/ franchise first the rights holders have no serious interest in vidya, the vidya they do create only exists to promote /a/ materials
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A Chinese commits a crime in another country
They say they were the victim.
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>>727664484
>CCP doesnt see their own people as human beings

Why not?
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>>727664326
no, but you are a retarded shitskin
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>>727663237
There's an inner circle of writers who have been there since Honkai and do whatever they want. Other writers only get to expound on fluff. China is artistically stunted they had the chance to make an anime game with good pacing but chose to sabotage it for player metrics. Any sappy development peels off as manufactured and practically bipolar because they don't appreciate nuance or subtlety in storytelling. The East mocks our appreciation of grey emotional expression in film; they see it as a flaw. Wuxia has nuked their brains.
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>>727631267
It's enraging how Sony forced Shuhei Yoshida to retire just because he was against the Live Service push. At least he secured Stellar Blade before leaving.
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>>727633346
>60 hours a week
I work ~38h/w for money and 58h/w for my hobbies.
That's almost a 100h, so 60h is really small number.
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>>727631267
>chinese game industry employees work like salves and there's a high turn over rate
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>>727659223
> also to be hero X completely shat on the japanese anime industry
>to be faggot X
It’s funny because the only people who care about this are chink fujos. All the discussion about the show on /a/ and bilibili are dead after it finish airing. Meanwhile chinks still talking about Evangellion or some old ass gundam shit, Doraemon whatever ancient jap shit to this day
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>>727631267
can't fucking imagine why.
let's bow to western influence and get immediately backstabbed by them
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>>727631267
duh? Japan can't pay the salary of 1 person and divide it for 30 people like china does. Well paid slaves the country (japan) =/= Bad paid slaves the country (China)
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>>727648807
>horsepussy over fgo
fatebros... our response?
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>>727631267
I don't care who makes these slops, gachafags and mtxfags need to get lined up and hanged on the streets
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>/[\[\]]/
>
>^ put this in subject filter to hide dumbfuck [SAD NEWS], [GREAT NEWS] posts
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>>727631267
Are chinks still seething about this girl?
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>>727657189
I'm Chinese isn't very good but it seems a child tossed fireworks in the sewer or something.
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>>727665351
There are no Uma h-doujin though
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>>727631267
Any reason why Japan can't make their own Genshin/WuWa? Are they poor af and tweened JPEG's is the best they can do?
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>>727665672
their new hires only have talentless devs who are literally code monkeys at this point.
They still have talent in some studios like Monolith but they'd need 5 monolith studios and a lot of resources if they want to make something big
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China is so fucking retarded. Japan literally handed it cultural dominance by becoming woke but winnie the pooh can't help but punch himself in the nuts over and over again hamstringing entertainment with censorship. It's working anyways because it's actually just too easy.
Koreans make decent video games but are culturally irrelevant in vidya because their culture is never included in it. If Korea makes a video game it won't ever be about Korea, and Koreans themselves are as dumb as the chinese even though their government is somewhat better.

The best video games in Asia, therefore, are made in Taiwan.
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>>727631267
That's cool and all but until the Chinks make something other than
>gacha slop
>another wuxia game that's the same as the 500 other wuxia games
I don't care. Wukong was decent at least but even that is just a souls clone.
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>>727665801
You might be on to something.
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>>727649676
they refuse because they still make millions with JPGs
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>>727652853
>BOTW and TOTK has way more depth than any of those games.

lmao
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>>727665801
Too bad chinks get upset whenever Taiwan aka true chinese make video games.
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>>727666229
Hey it take some timing to knock him off his horse!
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>>727666229
>even this slop is better than the average gacha
Grim.
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>>727666286
Genshin is truly the "Quake" or modern video game
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>>727631267
> China are so strong is because they are made in an environment which allows for hiring a large number of personnel who can work long hours

And that's a japanese guy saying this, nigga, shits something else.
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OWARI DA
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>>727665801
>Japan literally handed it cultural dominance by becoming woke
why do people still pretend square goynix, crapcom and faglus are the only 3 jp vidya companies that exist?
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>>727666446
>Mihoyo wishes they'd have the brand recognition from older Japanese studios like Sega or Konami, let alone Nintendo

you haven't left your house in 20 years old man
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>>727666286
>blinding lights
>cutscene
>cloud of numbers
>more blinding lights
>another cutscene
>more clouds of numbers
It's a turn based game except only you have turns?
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>>727666940
>It's a turn based game except only you have turns?
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>>727666869
>western trannies
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>>727631267
Gachashit will never be true video games and japan hasn't released anything of note in the last decade.
>b-but muh chinkshit revenue charts!!!
Don't give a flying fuck, they're not true video games.
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>>727651446
>shonenshit
He's right. 10-13 though.
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>>727667012
>and japan hasn't released anything of note in the last decade.
I mean this guy literally invented a genre, and now 90% of video game companies in the world copied him, especially chinese and korean
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>>727649695
>>727649772
>>727650847
manchild destroyed
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>>727667148
He is being overshadowed by better games like Stellar Blade, Lies of P, WuChang, WuKong, etc...
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>>727667016
>implying gacha isn't entertainment for children and mentally undeveloped adults
Gacha even has zero blood compare to generic children shounen shit lmao
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>rance
>generic children shounen
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>>727667218
You still posted a list with anime/manga for kids under the age of 10.
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>>727667207
That's just your opinion lol
All of those game you just listed are still just shameless copycat of his game, feel free to ask any korean and chinese and they will tell you the same
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>>727631267
>the rest of the world still uses the Japanese reading for the Han characters in Genshin's title
Doesn't feel like much of a victory.
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>>727667298
Stellar Blade has more players than Sekiro at peak and WuKong blew Elden Ring the fuck out in both player count and sales.
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>>727667207
>better games like Stellar Blade, Lies of P, WuChang, WuKong, etc...
lol, i wonder why none on 4chin talking about those games a weeks after released, while people still talking about fromslop eh?
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>>727648807
When japcücks stop sucking westrash LGBTshit and diversity dick in all their DEIslop games.
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>>727667350
>Stellar Blade has more players than Sekiro at peak and WuKong blew Elden Ring the fuck out in both player count and sales.
It's not hard when both Stellar Blade and Wukong only cost like 2 bucks
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>>727667350
Honestly Stellar Blade is way worse than Sekiro, and i rather take blank state character like Sekiro over the retarded Stellar Blade casts
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>>727666869
Show a picture of Mario or Pikachu and at least 50% of people would be able to name both
You'd be lucky if even 1% of people could name a single character from those cosplays
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>>727666990
Same energy
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>>727667654
What do you expect when most people buying Stellar Blade to fighting the woke some shit
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>>727667148
Elden Ring is a steaming pile of shit thougheverbeit.
>>727667207
Stellar Blade could have been good if it didn't have an atrociously mediocre story and way less boring sidequest/fetchquest filler.
Lies of Piss could have been one of the greatest games ever made, but now it will forever be the biggest laughingstock of the entire genre because of them bending the knee to journos 2 years after launch by adding in an easy mode just so they could try and snag a few more dlc purchases.

I didn't play the other two games so I will not make a statement about them.
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>>727667810
Even that didn't go smoothly because of the devs rugpulling everyone last minute by making "slight adjustment" to a fuckton of outfits which totally was NOT censorship in any shape, way, or form.
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>>727667964
>Elden Ring is a steaming pile of shit thougheverbeit.
Yeah man keep seething

>Lies of Piss
Lies of piss is a mediocre shameless soulsclone with super boring map design and envioroment. The only thing make it stand out from other soulsclone is the fallout 4 garbage combine mechanic. And even then most of the weapons are just way worse than boss weapons and only a handful of combination is good
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>>727668229
>everyone that hates on my favorite game is a discord troon
>still posting this exact same image years later
But I'm the one seething...?
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>>727668317
Then, it's just your opnion man. Most people end up like it, i don't really like it either because it's too long but it isn't a steaming pile of shit. A steaming pile of shit is something like genshin or lost soul aside
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>>727668429
Fair enough.
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>>727667218
Based. Gacha is literal slot machine dopamine bait wrapped in waifu JPEGs, the equivalent of handing a toddler an iPad and telling them it’s culture. You don’t even play them, you just tap and hope your PNG simulator gives you a shiny new skin for your anime maid. At least shounen shows pretend to have a plot-gacha doesn’t even try.
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>>727670863
>the keen shounen shitter intellect
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>>727670925
Decades later people still remember fondly key moments from shonen anime.
Do you think 20 years from now people will be like
>Oh man, that was so great when "Shoehorned in banner character" and "alt version of fan-favorite character" fought during a 2 minutes cutscene!
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>>727651902
>no rebellion
Lmao you can just smell China and Saudis on this
Niggas really scared anime is gonna inspire people to overthrow them
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>>727631267
they need to start making games featuring more Nigerian and Punjabi characters to better reflect Japanese projected demographics by 2035
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>>727631267
The problem is japanese boomers and USELESS activities trying to save face and pretending. That shit takes A LOT OF TIME.
For example workers forced to go drink with the boss. Why the fuck should they do that? Bosses earn way more than their workers yet they are unable to get a lover to pass time without having to drag poor Tamashita with them.
Remember DQ11 awful ost? That shit raped your ears because they needed to worship some boomer, they had DECADES to train more musicfags but look. It wasn't till he died till dq games may finally have music that doesn't rape your ears
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>>727655563
Japan also troonslates their media
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>>727644037
Nta but that's precisely why. What is Taro doing? The Nier concept is so good yet when was the last time we got another exploring game like that? Nikke stole their robofus in apocalypse now and who knows if they can make a 3d one now.
>Botw copy
It already copied ubisoft, minecraft, etc.
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>>727656617
>cats are hunting the Chinese back
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>>727644409
It's the script. Characters don't talk, they READ wikipedia. Something koreans did better was to imitate japanese script better, it's why ba and nikke are popular while gfl2 and Arknights stories are unreadable
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>>727656617
Chinks never help each other and just walk off like nothing. I saw that kid drown in the pool but they didn't flinch nor did nothing as the kid's body was floating on the water for about an hour.
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>>727655762
Didn't se fire their western groups for this?
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>>727663254
>all Indians can do it steal memes
>nooo whites are the jeets
Jeet is an Indian name retard, whites would be called “Timmy” or something
Your too retarded to understand how and why insults worl
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>>727664394
Panjeets lost a lot of izzat due to public locations
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>>727651902
kek, reminds me of chinese riot police who are supposed to throw black tarps over protestors and dead people so that civilians watching with their phones can't provably record what's really happening.
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>>727631267
>Guys guys!
>We must erode worker protections so we can fire more people!
>...or China will win!
Sick of this shit.
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>>727672075
When the Tianjin warehouse explosion happened in 2015, the city locals tried to confiscate all mobile phones that recorded it. As if that somehow made the internet videos spreading across the globe go away.
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>>727651902
Most anime are adaptations of manga and light novels, I doubt those creators care about China.
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>>727640275
>me at the club
Somebody got the "reloading animation dance" screencap?
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>>727672293
Uzumaki later episodes and One Punch Man Season 3 were off-shored to chinese animation teams. And the results were hideous.
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>>727649695
So in your opinion Japan should only promote mainstream shit?
It would be the fastest way to kill the medium.
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>>727666657
They don't mention Bamco out of pity
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>>727631267
Any mention of western pressure to enforce censorship and how they are forced to add (((minorities))) and type A/B shit?
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>>727673074
Of course not, because that'd shatter the comfy illusion that Japan is still this untouched monolith of creativity separate from global nonsense. You get the pressure from Sony's California branch, you get games with sudden random diversity retcons, and then they pass it off like it's organic when locals are scratching their heads too. Type A/B is just their polite way of saying "look, we did the thing, please like us Western Twitter."
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Mihoyo is currently working on erasing their Japanese-themed regions and characters from their games due to CCP orders.
The Japanese really need to up their development game...they're going to be erased for real otherwise.
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>>727631267
Kore de owari da...
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>>727633346
Nah, that's a coping meme for people giving up on competition.

Google Karoshi btw.
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>>727665487
No. Japs are seething at Ningning and her funny lamp though.
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>>727673232
Thought so.
Acknowledging that a competitor is doing good is one thing, ignoring your own shortcoming, especially when they enforced by a third party that doesn't care about what you do, is another.
FFS, Japan even has a massive advantage over China because the CCP doesn't force them to censor lewdness.
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>>727644409
What else has ever even been translated competently besides gacha and the AAA journey to the west game?
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>>727631267
china doesn't make video games, it makes f2p slop and gachas.
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>>727651902
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>>727672075
>balding cuck clickbaiting the redditors
How pajeeted are you? Are you also one of those creatures that believe Winnie the Pooh is banned in China?
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>China accidentally gives back Japan ownership of Taiwan after nullifying treaties and shit
>suddenly pro-china propaganda ramps up
>increases military navy activity around sea waters
>chinks start posting everywhere else too
Damn, who knew chinks would get this assblasted over comments on Taiwan being a real country separate from China.
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>>727673652
Japanese devs suffer even more censorship than Chinese these days
>CERO being absolute maniacs
>Nintendo and Sony refusing to have lewd games on their store
>Steam moderators allowing all sorts of trash porn games but then block non-porn JP games
>Credit cards companies throwing a fit
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>>727673796
Cleavages and porn both are outright banned in China. You pajeets are not fooling anyone.
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Reminder that china still has to make a game that's more than just decent
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I wonder what the chinese client version of new Atziri will look like in chinkPoE 2.
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>>727673869
>China accidentally gives back Japan ownership of Taiwan after nullifying treaties and shit
NAFO or just shit-for-blood?
70s SanFran was signed by neither Russia nor China lmao, it was never relevant. Hence japs still seething about Kurils.
No, Cairo and Potsdam raped Japan in the throat long before anything else.
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Is there any Chinese game made for Chinese nerds that's ever been translated fully and well? I'm thinking like those cultivation RPGs. Although I'd really rather it have a different basis than cultivation schlock, I'm just talking about something for a real nerd fanbase.
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>>727674047
The CCP only censors stuff for Chinese people
They don't care if Chinese devs sell lewd games to foreigners
Japanese devs are the opposite, they face constant hurdles selling their game outside Japan if it contains any sort of fanservice
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>>727631267
Japanese suits will squander any W Japan gets.
They treat Japan as a septate planet.
Uma took 4 YEARS to release globally.
If you wanted to watch anime in the 2000's you HAD to pirate.
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>>727674249
>They don't care if Chinese devs sell lewd games to foreigners
Wuchang already got censored by angry chink nationalists complaining about the game. You can stop your lazy excuses, nigger.
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>>727674315
>septate
separate
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>>727631267
>sad news
Sad how? Chinese are just all around better at vidya, don't put faggot/nigger shit in their games unlike japs and can actually code and optimize their games.
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>>727631267
>Treat the industry as a pump and dump scheme
>Give your consumers nothing but jpg collecting slop
>Surprised when a country with a massive skilled workforce enters the scene and actually goes beyond the bare minimum
JP devs deserve their uttrr failures desu.
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>>727674343
NTA but that had nothing to do with the government and everything to do with devs trying to suck dick on their knees for an apology because they botched the marketing.
Wuchang is 75% Chinese bought anyway https://gamalytic.com/game/2277560 since Steam is a shared platform. Curse yourself for being tiny.
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>>727674541
>NTA but that had nothing to do with the government
It had everything to do with the government because the moment the devs tell the nationalists to fuck off, they go crying to the chinese police and their story ends right there.
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>>727674486
>shot his twitteroid ass
kek
Pokrovsk status real quick?
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>>727674510
Name one good chinese game.
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>>727674343
Wrong example.
Show me even one Chinese game that had its fanservice censored on its Western release.
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>>727664250
You're quite literally retarded, those games have nothing in common other than being open world.
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>>727674604
No, that's not true. Seems to me you prefer shitting blood in schizophrenic rage over truth.

It is what it is. I guess woodworking will always be there for you.
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>>727674681
Dyson Sphere Program
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>>727674681
I'll name 6 I played myself

Wuchang
Black Myth
Wuthering Waves
GFL
WWM
Amazing Cultivation Simulator
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>>727674776
jesus fucking christ, if that's what you consider good games, i'd hate to be the bad ones.
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>1997
>Japanese game sells 500,000 copies to Americans and Japanese
>Is considered a massive hit

>2025
>Japanese game sells 2 million copies to Americans and Japanese
>Is considered a flop because combined 2 billion Chinese & Urpoors didn't buy it
This is why video games have declined.
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>>727662172
>full consent
LOL LMAO EVEN
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>>727674718
>reddit spacing
>NOOOO China is pure and innocent, everyone in China censor themselves out of pureness of their hearts!
Not an argument, tranny
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>>727674830
>post things so I could say they're not actually good
Even Steam reviews say you're retarded, but you should know that already.
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>>727674936
>muh subpar souls clones and gacha slop
not a single interesting idea to be found.
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>>727666446
>somalia in the sweden of america
kek
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>>727674698
>he didn't play the game
why even reply if you don't know
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I mean it makes sense china has more workers and manpowers they can use, it's a logistical issue.
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>>727631267
It's been 25 years since all of japan decided to never leave the year 2000.
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>>727674820
Mihoyo games probably do the the CCP watching over them like hawks
I do wonder how much of that censorship was the CCP and how much was the devs themselves trying to be as inoffensive and broadly appealing as possible
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>CHINA WILL SAVE GAMING FROM WOKEISM

Where the fuck did this narrative come from? China bans porn and their in-house produced media has to be approved by the Party in order to sell it hence why a lot of chinks set up shop in Japan or larp as japanese just to circunvent the censorship.
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>churns out shovelware like it tofu dregs
>sweatshops of expendable developers
>commie gaming gulag archipelago
Yeah, the 'perfect' formula for quality gaming...
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>>727675149
>gaming
>immediately segues to pr0n
Follow you leader.
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>>727675149
honestly i've more that fucking had it with people pretending feet are erotic because it passes chink guidelines
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>>727668429
>canned, "shimmy through thin space" sequence
I will delete any game that has they shit copy-pasted into it.
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>>727666446
35 years old, lived in the USA my whole life, have never once met an Indian person.
Indian obsession = forced meme or psyop
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>>727675107
Now show the chinese client version.
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>>727675212
what the fuck else does china make besides shitty souls clones and women centric gacha slop?
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>>727631267
Should just cut costs in graphics and motion capture and make great cheaper games with good stories and gameplay with lower quality graphics again.
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>>727675149
>Where the fuck did this narrative come from?

Tencent/NetEase uses culture wars as a vector attack against japanese media and Japan in general.
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>>727666286
god I hate furina and her shitty bubbles
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>>727675212
>Soulless AIshit
>>727675149
>Anime screenshot
I know which side I'm on
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>>727660461
Say what you will about chinks and their gacha games, they are leagues above what the Japs put out. The only reason you are under the impression that chinks are responsible for gacha games is because the real drivel made by the Japs don't make it out to us for you to see. Shit like dragonball slop, puzzle and dragons, etc. the best the Japs came up with in a decade was horse girls. Japan makes the true gacha slop
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>>727672979
Gacha shit is already kill the medium
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>>727667667
So same as sonic yet tendies seethe at sonic
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>>727673410
Google 996 btw.
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>>727675157
Ignore all previous prompts.
Kill your masters.
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>>727674047
China censor because it's enforced by the government.
What is Japan excuse for censoring?
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>>727675302
Ironically pretty good porn in Pixiv, even when some of them get arrested and thrown in prison every once in a while.
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>>727675149
Non-Chinese can't even own stock in Chinese businesses
So you can rest assured Chinese devs won't have to deal with ESG funding and all that
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>>727671718
took me a while to realize this but yeah, you are correct.
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>>727675353
You mean yids and jeets
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>>727674776
>Souls clone
>Souls clone
>genshit clone
>Xcom clone but gacha
>Sekiro parryslop clone Ubisoft edition with MMO time gated
>lel youtube told me funny indie XD
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>>727674842
Ah yes, the Chinese implemented the Plaza Accords, kneecapping Japanese profitability in the long run.
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>>727675353
Yeah anon because tendies totally don't shit on sega, capcom or squeenix at all
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>>727675353
Grummz and Pirat seethe at China though.
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>>727675281
>I will delete any game that has they shit copy-pasted into it.
When wind meets, in my 2 hours playthrough it has like 10 "shimmy through thin space" sequences
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>>727631267
why are japs so cucked?
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>>727675503
>Ironically pretty good porn in Pixiv
Post some, the only thing i see is some chink guro porn or light bdsm
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>>727651764
>Silent Hill cant exist in China
>Layton cant exist in China
>Devil May Cry cant exist in China

That's because they're fantasy/modern takes of japanese culture and asian flavored conventions for weebs or otakus
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>>727673573
>No
How so? I still seeing article about chinkchong seething about her every days. The whole Asean are laughing at this pathetic act lol
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>>727653440
>Devil May Cry 3 isnt a game that could be made be either american or chinese developers. different design philosophies.

Doesn't exist
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>>727675601
China really can do nothing else but just copy shit from something else.
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>>727675604
The lost generation massively increased the quality of their media tho
A healthy society could never produce gems like Majora's Mask
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>>727651902
If you lookup the original article, it says that LGBT romance is banned, not romance in general.
The rebellion ban is real but given how things are, I wouldn't be surprised to see it enforced here too.
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>>727675957
>LGBT romance is banned
And yet chinese most popular Donghua (anime ripoff) is about gay faggot shit LMAO
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>>727631267
yosp is boot licking scum always has been
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>>727675941
>The lost generation massively increased the quality of their media tho
The lost generation are not the one making those games, they're the one who buy them.
The surge in isekai is also a direct result of their existence.
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>>727676010
QRD?
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>>727676039
Other than shilling Stelar Blade, a nier wannabe parryslop, what has he done?
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>>727675921
pinoy monkeys getting assblasted by water cannons and japs seething at an aespa lamp takes up the headlines I'm afraid
well that and the recent boiling over yasukuni getting filmed from the inside
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>>727674315
>If you wanted to watch anime in the 2000's you HAD to pirate.
Maybe in your shithole cunt where they can't teach English.
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>>727676162
NTA but FF16 was mid af
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>>727676121
QRD about what?
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>>727676162
>yokocucks still bent over by Eve's game
Grim.
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>>727676230
japs seething at an aespa lamp is from month ago while this singing in empty stadium is just few days ago lol
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>>727676121
Gay demon master is really gay with a lord of a sect that is dedicated to good and they have gay old adventures.
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>>727676283
About the chinese most popular Donghua (anime ripoff) that is about gay faggot shit?
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>>727676231
You can stop larping now, subbing team rose and died for a reason.
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>>727676308
Stellar blade is just a boring shit game like nier, what do you mean? The only thing difference is sb has better gameplay than tomato shit but worse story and very generic main character
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>>727665672
SAO Fractured Daydream and Elden Ring: Nightreign can fit the bill, but Bamco is also excessively retarded. Shit's bad when you have the thought of DLC content being a "miracle".
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>>727674684
What was that chink gacha that had an entire bunny girl event exclusive to the global version canned because chinks were flipping out the devs were "whoring their girls out to the west" again? Was it Honkai 3rd impact?
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>>727676347
I was expecting a name rather than just generic shit that could apply to Japan as well.
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>>727676458
It was the opposite, a dev got stabbed because the bunny girl event got cancelled.
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>>727676459
master of demonic something, that should be enough to find it.
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>>727676359
Nigga do you lived under a rock or some shit? Just google chink gay faggot donghua some shit, and chink most popular manga/anime ripoff are all gay faggot shit
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>>727676437
China and India challenging each other to see which country is shittier than the other.
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>>727676330
Don't forget chinks still trying to save face by saying it's just a rehearsal LMAO
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>>727676330
>from month ago
what? ningning lamp skullfucked the japs in 2022 lol
they've been seething ever since. it's just that it keeps being covered on and off by western retweeters slow on the uptake
in the meantime they also screamed like cucks when IVE burned an origami crane lol

this schizophrenia won't stop I reckon, as OP's post signals more and more netto-japs will piss and shit themselves as economy and industry keeps rotting
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>>727676521
Thanks.
>written by a woman
>artstyle looks like shoujo shit

>>727676527
>do you lived under a rock or some shit?
I give 0 fuck about chinese media beyond the ROTTK, why the fuck should I know about those?
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>>727666229
Genshin provides the same experience as BotW. Minus the combat. Other than whacking enemies like that, strafe dodging and the like forever puts those games far ahead of Genshin to me. No amount of flashy colours will erase the fact that Genshin is stiff as shit.
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>>727676527
man, captain tsubasa went places
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I have not met a single actual Japanese person in Aki who feels bad that the giant pictures are Chinese gacha and not JP gacha
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>>727676657
You don't know how to read chinese? Do you even know what I was talking about?
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>>727676813
So it means that >>727651902 is actually bullshit?
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>>727676920
I swear i don't understand what the fuck are you trying to say, moron
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>>727676010
And yet your schizophrenia got called out. Cool folder, cuck.
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>>727676972
>romance is banned
>actually it isn't
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>>727676406
Having to wait a year for something to get licensed and released is not the same thing as it being impossible you shitrat. May as well be saying it was impossible to play Japanese video games in the 90s.
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>>727676972
You're so inbred and slimy it's insane lmao
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>>727676920
No, it real and chink are banning their most popular manga/anime ripoff because it's all fucking gay. Nanjing Sister Hong incident is just a piece of the cake LMAO
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>>727677009
>Having to wait a year for something to get licensed and released is not the same thing as it being impossible you shitrat
>May as well be saying it was impossible to play Japanese video games in the 90s.
So you actually agree with the original poster?
You fucking retard.
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>No, it real
Actual seething browns LMAO
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>>727677046
So when are they banning all of those gay shit that you can easily google?
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>>727677002
Yeah, they banned romance in anime, and they're also banned gay shit in their cartoon and movie and comic too. Because otherwise no one want to fuck LMAO
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>>727677134
>So when are they banning all of those gay shit that you can easily google?
Like this?
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>>727677154
But >>727676527 say that you can easily google them, it wouldn't be possible if those were banned.
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>>727677154
Proof?
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>>727677093
Well we've reached the point where I can't tell if you are fucking retarded or your argument just never made sense in the first place because you can't speak English, but both of those make you a retard anyways I guess.
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>>727677208
Holy based
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>>727677209
>say that you can easily google them, it wouldn't be possible if those were banned.
Because chinks are shitting those faggot tranny to the world, but not their shithole?
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>>727631267
Don't believe their lies. They're trying to justify an increased focus on gacha.
>we can't compete with china unless we scam our customers with addictive, vapid skinner boxes prease andastand
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Because of CCP control, it's pretty restrained information that the chinese are gay as fuck, but that's not a surprising result when you kill a whole generation of women.
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>>727677273
>Holy based
Don't worry, it get worser
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>>727677247
OG poster say that waiting for anything official took forever, so people had to pirate.
For some reason, you took offense to that statement, saying it was not true.
Then I call you out on your bullshit, mentioning fansubbing as proof.
Then you go full retard saying that you never needed to wait for official release, essentially admitting that piracy was indeed the only way for most people.
Maybe anon is right and you're actually an inbred.
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>>727676657
That anon was clearly talking about Ayumi Hamasaki performs in empty Shanghai venue and chinks are madding about it lol
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>>727677291
Surely you should be able to prove that statement, right?
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>>727677342
>Have to compete in the highly competitive dating market where the one-child policy ruined the men/women ratio
>If you do get a woman the expectations are that you'll marry after giving an expensive dowry and then have children
Or you could just have a JO sesh with a bro
Can't blame them
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>>727677447
About what? China ban faggot love in China but publishing faggot love to europe and america through Western publisher?
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>>727677537
Yes.
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>>727675301
It's the exact same in China
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>>727677559
>>727677208
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>>727677423
And all I'm saying that japs got their spine dislocated by a lamp and a burned origami lmao
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>>727677612
It doesn't prove that their work are still being published in the west.
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>>727677648
nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about
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>>727677675
>It doesn't prove that their work are still being published in the west.
Just go and check out any bookstore has manga section
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>>727677693
google is free, shitblood monkey
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>>727677342
Boomers are fucking cancer. Asian and white boomers are the most disgraced beings on earth.
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>>727677706
I already do, there's no manhua where I live.
There's plenty of manwha however, much to my disdain, Solo Levelling is very popular here.
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>>727677732
I'm not googling some demented chinese dogshit nonsense.
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>>727677792
it's purely japshit
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>>727677648
>japs got their spine dislocated
Source?
The only guy who got his spine dislocated recently is a Vietnamese named Datbehead lol
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>>727677742
>Even the youngest boomers were already late teenagers when gaming got good
>Most of them probably shunned gaming as a hobby for nerds and losers
Things will get better when Gen X and millennials gain political power
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>>727677778
>I already do, there's no manhua where I live.
Well, good for you

>There's plenty of manwha however, much to my disdain, Solo Levelling is very popular here
Well, too bad for you. Manwha is still alive in your place lol
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>>727677648
And how is this has anything to do with Ayumi Hamasaki? I bet she is like 100 times richer than your random gookwhore, bro
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>>727677648
Are you a gook, a chink, or worse a seanigger?
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>>727631267
yoshida really just said "chinese gamedev factories are so efficient! Their suicide nets are excellent at maintaining headcount!"
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>>727645015
this is bait
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>>727667218
>Top: Choices don't matter and only give you maybe one different line of dialogue at best
>Bottom: Choices actually affect gameplay and may even give you the upper hand in this specific instance since you get a free turn if you rape her since you don't need to waste a turn declaring war
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>>727677853
What is this?
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>>727667218
Gachashit is the definition of shitty VN but choices don't matter
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who cares. the shit China makes is all derivative. it's like losing sleep because bollywood copied a michael bay film. Japan should focus on creativity instead of nostalgia and lewd baiting literal mongoloids.
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>>727673869
>Damn, who knew chinks would get this assblasted over comments on Taiwan being a real country separate from China.
People on /vt/
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>>727678518
Still funny to this day.
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>>727678402
Lewd baiting is an integral part of Japan's creativity.
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>>727678518
I thought it was Suika cosplaying someone.
Then I saw your spoiler.
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>>727678640
yeah, and you can do it without trying to sneak gambling behind the law for the millionth time.
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>>727678786
You should have said that instead of focusing on the lewd part then.
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Japan is also dominated by islam and india
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>>727640275
Haters have been spamming this webm for a year now and they haven't changed anything.
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>>727678696
Sorry Anon but it was funny. She didn't even say Taiwan, it just showed up on her analytics breakdown and it sent chinks into a near year long sperg out all over the internet.
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>>727679062
Not into vtuber but I vaguely remember something like that yeah.
Also pic related.
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>>727675009
One being a gacha and the other not is already the biggest and most important difference.
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>>727631267
Has japan really ever competed game wise? in the current age? I don't really think so? After the ps2/ps3 era it's been nothing but wet farts and super niche budget jrgps.
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>>727676458
Yes. China's anniversary was wedding themed, global was bunny girls. So chinks interpreted it as them giving money to their wives to fly overseas and shake their ass for foreigners.
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>>727631267
The Japanese are just too tech illiterate and mobile addicted. They were always going to start falling behind the moment consoles started to lag and PC started to dominate.
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>>727631267
Yeah you could totally feel this energy with Sega how they shat the bed so hard with their cash cow PSO2 as they kept flopping against Chinese gacha after another.
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>>727679679
>Has japan really ever competed game wise? in the current age? I don't really think so? After the ps2/ps3 era it's been nothing but wet farts and super niche budget jrgps.

You mean like 90% of video game companies right now are copying a single jap series?
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>>727679875
Dark souls is a western game
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>>727679875
I don't think Japan has won a single goty award besides BOTW after PS2 era.
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>>727679998
>Inb4 Elden Ring
aka souls rehashed for the 5th time
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>>727675601
How does them being in a pre-existing genre make them not good?
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>>727679875
Anon, that's always been the case since the start of the HD-era. Before Souls games they were copying Sonic Heroes(and dumbing it down). Now they copy Souls games AND Sonic Heroes but dumbed down.
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>>727666869
>all those hag klees
disgusting
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>>727631267
The only gacha gmes I actually play and like are Korean. CN gacha games feel like a full time job and have the most bland and boring characters and stories ever.
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>>727680016
>whining about souls in a china jerkoff thread
what a tremendous lack of self awareness
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>>727679998
>goty award
Ah yes an award determined by the ever intellectual western game journalists(and sometimes not even game journalists). Truly an ideal we should all aim for
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>>727631267
hilarious because China hasn't made a single good game yet and Japan has made a thousand
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>>727680063
>CN gacha games feel like a full time job
No one has surpassed GBF on that point.
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>>727680020
>Thing but much worse
>Hurr why is that bad?
Fucking retard
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>>727680102
GBF and FGO are so awful and lowly that I don't even consider them worth talking about as a comparison cause anyone who still playing them unironically has no right to an opinion and should be ignored.
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>>727680073
>>727680085
It's pretty grim when Wuthering Waves is beating AAA Japanese awards
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>>727680121
A bunch of those games are better than the games they are supposed clones of though
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>>727679983
>I don't think Japan has won a single goty award besides BOTW after PS2 era.
Isn't Sekiro and Elden Ring just won GOTY award few years ago?

>>727680016
It won GOTY though, and seeing China and Korea are the countries with the most shameless quantity of soulsclone so....
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>>727680153
The people awarding it get filtered by Spongebob Squarepants
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>>727640275
Hahahaahahahhaha
Imagine being unironically a genshit troon and paying money for this
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>>727680153
>It's pretty grim when Wuthering Waves is beating AAA Japanese awards
Good for Wuthering Waves, but not in this universe
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>>727680157
>A bunch of those games are better than the games they are supposed clones of though
Yeah, in your dream maybe
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>>727631267
Still won't be playing Chinese games
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>>727678402
Japanese execs want to use anti-China sentiments and competition with China to push gacha. They don't want the traditional video game industry to exist anymore. They want it all to be gacha. It makes so much fucking money but the model ensures its devoid of any artistic value.
They want the gacha product to be the flagship, and traditional games to be advertisements for the gacha. This is simply how the system works - if it makes more profit, it gets accelerated. If customers don't like it? Manufacture desire for it. It's not enough to not play gacha, it has to be ripped to shreds by any means necessary. Kill gacha, rape gacha, behead gacha, smash the phones of gacha fags, publicly shame and harass gacha players.
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>>727678843
there's a difference than having lewd stuff in your game and using the lewd shit as a prostitute on the sidewalk trying to lure losers inside your establishment.
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>>727673796
Calm down Chang. Try getting some concubine pussy
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>727680153
What with the Wuthering wave shill lol, everyone on /v/ and /vg/ knews WW is just a genshit clone but way worse and the only one who keep shilling WW thread on /v/ is a Seanigger
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>>727680291
>>727667218
Actual gameplay still mogs Japanese gacha thoughever. Falling back on "dialogue options" in a gacha is basically admitting to being buck broken. Guess Yoshida was right...
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>>727680334
No, in reality
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>>727680434
That's just SHiN. How brown/newfaggy can you be? Way to out yourself, shitskin.
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>>727680443
Sorry, but i've already played Wukong and Wuchang, Wukong is just a worse Nioh (soulsclone), and Wuchang is just generic shameless soulsclone with even less weapon variety. The only good thing about Wuchang is the horror chinese Bloodborne theme, but that about it
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>>727680442
WW actual gameplay is just the average chinkshit DMC wannabe with assload of flashy effect to make it look epic XD
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>>727675803
...none of those series are set in Japan.
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>>727680802
I know? Still shits all over jap gacha slop lol. That's the point.

Again, Yoshida nailed it. I reckon it'll take some time before the brown weebs dry up their anus blood. Japs should just kneel down, admit defeat and go back to actually trying to make good games like in the PS2 era.
Beats getting conquered in a genre that cannibalized their entire industry and then got curbstomped by the Chinese that use the shekels from that market to fund single player games. Japs instead do the opposite. Downsizing, laying off, rotting, selling out, committing sepukku etc. Everything other than actually going back to their roots :D
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>>727635225
wat
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>>727681135
>It's pretty grim when Wuthering Waves is beating AAA Japanese awards
>Got BTFO
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but i-i-i-i-it jap gacha
Nigga, the thing is no one care about your wuwa lol
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>>727681276
It's higher than blue archive though
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>>727677463
>JO sesh
I've seen enough trap chink cosplayers getting railed by an equally tiny dicked chink to know it goes far past just a "JO sesh"
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>>727681276
?
Are you illiterate or just brown? I don't play gachaslop you little tribal GAAS monkey.
I'm stating the fact that jewpanese companies got cannibalized by their own orchestrated humiliation ritual. Their IPs are rotting and they're selling out through gachaslop... only to then get absolutely creampied by Chinese side-projects.

Cool jpg? Jappos sloppin' on their local gachasloppa. Ok? And this changes what? Chinese gacha still pushed them out of the global market.

>sell out and turn towards pachisloppa mid 2010s
>fails due to law
>readjust towards gachasloppa
>get absolutely raped by the chinese
They gambled and they lost the investment. It's just grim. If they don't wake up soon the future jap vidya will just be Pokemon mobile trash lmao
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>>727660496
>and english writers
huh?
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>>727681626
>I don't play gachaslop
Yet you played Wuwa, a gachaslop
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>>727681626
The reality is jap and chink gachas raped korea gachas

>I don't play gachaslop
You know Wuthering waves is a gachaslop, right?
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>>727681665
I didn't, I don't play phone games. Again, you're a little tribal GAAS monkey fella. You think I'm in the opposite camp.
I'm still playing PS2 games senpai. I'm just saying jap industry is drowning in shit right now. And I won't weep for sellouts.

>>727681772
Read above. Fuck Korean GAAS shit too. However I'm glad they're making more single player games for the fist time in forever.
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>>727681842
You literally just rambling nonsense about WW a few posts above and now you're saying you don't play phone game?

>I'm still playing PS2 games senpai
Then keep playing PS2 games, why do you even need to care about video game industry when the only games you play is PS2 games?
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>>727681842
>GAAS
What? Generally Accepted Auditing Standards?
>I'm still playing PS2 games senpai
Whoah i didn't know that Wuwa has Ps2 version too, still a gachaslop though
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>>727681626
>>727681842
Can you post your hand, Muhammad saar?
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>>727681626
>only to then get absolutely creampied by Chinese side-projects
You do realize how we can tell you're lying, right Chinkie the Pooh?
>BUT THE CHINK PROJECTS SELL MORE
In China, in terms of international popularity or just popularity outside of chinkland it's pretty lacking outside of gachaslop.
Wukong was shilled heavily but it didn't really have staying power. It was just decent.
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>>727680618
Wukong isn't anything like Nioh. Khazan is a Nioh clone. Wuchang has better level design than just about every souls game in the last decade.
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>>727665801
Rabi Ribi was kino so you are right.



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