we tolded you

>Metroid like progression but you have to go through the boring desert open world to move to different areas.
Breath of the Wild really hamstrung Nintendo, didn't it?

>>727631761
we didnt play the game, we just parroted each other lol

>>727631761
Literally everyone said the motorcycle was a massive red flag but the tendie defense force came out and began circling the wagons to play it off

>>727631761
why does you game looks so bad? cant afford a switch 2?

Uh oh meltie

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>>727631761
>he thinks /v/ plays games

>>727631829
I spent HOURS in Prime 4 hate threads, none of you fuckers once mentioned the green crystals.

You may have said "the open world is shit and has no music and has music locked behind a paywall, and all of the important areas are just teleport doors at the corners of the map instead of organically integrated into the desert, and hate on botw shrines, and hate on the mech fetch quest." But the green cyrstals? Not one single criticism. This is THE worst part of the game, this needs to be top and center of every list of criticisms for the games, but you all spent days memeing "RIDLEY'S RIGHT BEHIND ME ISN'T HE!?" when the NPCs aren't even that fucking bad past their introduction cutscenes.

this is retarded falseflagging
the green shards you need the fucking game tells you to collect them as you pass THROUGH them
if the OP has to find them AT ENDGAME is because he fucking ignored the game

>>727632080
>if the OP has to find them AT ENDGAME is because he fucking ignored the game
Yes, I did fucking ignore them. If you read my post, I mentioned that it was fucking torture collecting these green crystals, so eventually I stopped going out of my way to get them.

If the game properly emphasized "OH MAN, THESE GREEN CRYSTALS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT MAKE SURE YOU COLLECT THEM OR YOU WON'T GET FAR" instead the game just says very quickly at the beginning "those are glaucan crystals, you can collect those for upgrades." I just assumed they were for completionists who wanted the strongest suit or strongest weapon upgrades, but I was fine with just the first arm cannon upgrade so I figured they weren't worth it.

>>727632357
retard that is not a valid criticism

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>>727631908
>>727631994
>>727631919
/thread
I do feel bad though. /v/'s one track mind when it comes to game anaylsis and criticism is the worst and it sucks that Youtube video essays are the only real place to get that sort of thing.
It doesn't help the best a thread will provide is just a shallow and reductive plot synopsis.

>>727632357
there's even a MENU with MISSION on it for it......

>>727632412
How is it not? Can you imagine if the final dungeon was locked off, and it said "you can't get into this final dungeon unless you have 180 missile ammo!"

I'm not a completionist. Eventually I have enough missile ammo, so I don't go out of my way to collect them. If they are going to progress lock the ending of the game around a stupid collectible that is fucking torture to collect, it needs to warn you at least.

>>727632732

>>727632646

>>727632646
Yeah, skyrim has a menu filled with HUNDREDS of useless fetch quests, that doesn't mean you have to do all of them.
I assumed it was for completionists. But even the mission tab of the menu is easily fucking missable, I checked it once at the beginning of the game and put it out of my mind.

>>727631761
It's alright, not my favorite but it was fun.

>>727632887
accept that it was your fault and enjoy the game on hard mode
don't let that small detail fuck your whole experience
unless if you pirated it then if you did it's whatever

>>727632974
Nope. The criticism is still valid. Even IF the game warned you "these green cystals are mandatory" the are not fun to collect. It is stupid to make an unfun collectable mandatory. With or without warning. Other games do this shit and you all shat on those games. the 2008 prince of persia reboot comes to mind. People criticized it because you are progress gated by a bunch of glowing balls littered throughout the map. But at least that game warned you.

This is WORSE than if they made it mandatory to have 180 missile ammo to unlock the final dungeon

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>>727631761
>/v/tards obsessed about a walking caricature of a wojak and not the god awful level design, kindergarten puzzles, handholding never ever stopping, and terribad desert
>even the music tracks are disgusting like something sharted by an AI

I'm not surprised

>>727631761
Why would you still buy the game dummy

we get it bro you didn't play the game no need to samefag

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>>727632732
yeah, it should just say nothing and you twiddle your thumbs trying to figure out how to get it open for a dozen hours

>>727632080
Why didn't they do what most games do with mandatory collectibles and add small gates throughout the game?
Imagine Super Mario 64, but the stars are totally optional until a single 100-star door at the end.
It's just bad game design, even if Toad says "ooh you better get those stars!" at some point.
They could have required you to get some green crystals for various things throughout the game, to unlock doors or mandatory upgrades, preventing this situation and clearly indicating the crystals are important.

>>727633323
>It is stupid to make an unfun collectable mandatory.
it's stupid to hate not only the motorcycle but also exploring.

blud really outtee playin meteorite primal skullemoji

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>>727632036
Every single one of these posts mentions the green crystals
You were just too stupid to notice or too busy posting dumbass shit like "ERM, APPLOGIZE TO METROID DREAD!" to notice people posting actual info on the game.

Fucking Indians man I swear.

>>727633618
Because I figured /v/ was exaggerating shit, which they were for the most part. Yes I disliked the NPCs, but they didn't fuck up the whole game like /v/ said it would. Yes the desert was shit, but I FIGURED it would just add a few minutes of commute between major areas. Which WOULD have been true, and I COULD have let slide, until I figured out that you can't just turn off your brain and drive from dungeon to dungeon, you have to swerve around and collect fucking crystals the whole game, or get fucking gobsmacked by it at the end of the game

can I get an nsp link, my nza file or what got corrupted by SAK

>>727633636
Even two third into the game npcs won't stop telling you exactly what to do at any time? Fighting new robots? The sniper cunt won't even wait three seconds before spilling the beans about the ice beam. And then you spend ten minutes killing gay and barely animated t-posing bots, cleaning rooms in a straight line and waiting for the npc to follow you to ride elevators. It's UTTER SHIT. Anyone defending this game is either a tendie boy or a bot. The bottom of the barrel of AAA gayming. Fuck all of you.

>they had trouble collecting the green crystals
holy shit, do you guys even game

>>727631761
>>727632357
are you a moron?
it's literally the main thing the Lomorn want you to do, they want you to get the memory seed which you need the crystals to get the seed. The one NPC you should be paying attention to said this.
also if you're at the end game you have the powerbomb which means you can hit the big rocks for massive amounts of the crystals
the game has a huge surplus of the crystals it never makes you hunt down each single one.

>>727634029
this specific part has been very very funny to witness

>>727634007
pipe down peanut gallery

>>727632036
This. As usual /v/ are retarded and cannot form coherent and meaningful criticisms of the game. Ironically in the process the haters have poisoned the well of the very thing they hate giving shills and defenders an easy dismissive argument
>You don't like it because you hate Myles and need music in your desert

someone with photoshop skills make a green shards meme and samus laughing next to it

>>727634083
it's just wow, there's a constant back and forth hunting items this is Metroid, the green crystals should pose no issue unless you actively avoided exploring

>>727631761
So let me get this straight
Prime 1 had Artifact Hunting
Prime 2 had Sky Temple Keys
Prime 3 had Energy Cells
By that logic, Prime 4 would have a mandatory collection sequence needed to reach the final level no?
Not only that, VERY early on into the game, like right around the first boss Cervax, the Lamorn straight up tells you to "Collect the Green Crystals to create memories for the thing"
Despite all that, you acted like a retard and decided to push through the game ignoring that huh?

>>727634029
Call me shit all you want, they are not fucking fun to collect, and when the game is already tedious enough going from dungeon to dungeon, I didn't want to add minutes on top of that commute swerving, and slowing down so some random sand dune doesn't send me flying over them. And like I mentioned before, they are all spread out JUST wide enough that the only way to collect them in one go is to uturn and drive through them a second time, unless you use the akira slide, but the game is so fucking stingy with those boosts you'd never have enough.

>>727631761
It is pretty fucking stupid. I'm trying to think of similar example in another Metroid game, or even adventure game in general... And there's really nothing. Sure, the games often ask you to do something to unlock the finale (all bosses in Super Metroid for example) but it never is just pointless grind.
...Well, Hollow Knight requires you to fully unlock Dream Nail for the True Ending, but to do that you can just fight few bosses, which is actually fun.

>>727631870
Its nothing like botw though. It's more like Oot or TP in this regard. Im tired of retards who have not played any of these games parroting retarded shit.

And MP4 is seriously derivative and boring in many ways, but im for one enjoying the bike and the desert. Its fun and new. Unlike the rest of the game, which is the same fucking upgrades we ever got on but on linear, predictable as fuck areas. I thought the NPCs would bother me more. But im more bothered at the sheer lack of ideas beyond the bike, which is underdevelopped anyway.

>>727632357
>OH MAN, THESE GREEN CRYSTALS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT

They do say that though.

>>727634180
The difference is that all those things in previous games were big goals at end of challenging sections. Getting one of the Artifacts in Prime 1 felt like achievement.
The crystals in Prime 4 are just random nonsense, like fucking orbs in Hat in Time, or something.

>>727634180
Don't fucking care, even if I concede and admit it was my fault IT IS NOT FUN TO COLLECT GREEN CRYSTALS, IT SHOULD NOT BE MANDATORY

>"BUT THEY DID WARN YOU AND YOU'RE JUST STUPID!"
STILL NOT FUN AND POOR GAME DESIGN
>"BUT IT HAS PRECEDENT!"
STILL NOT FUN AND POOR GAME DESIGN
>"BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING IT ALL ALONG THE GAME!"
STILL NOT FUN AND POOR GAME DESIGN
>"YOU MUST NOT LIKE IT BECAUSE YOU SUCK!"
STILL NOT FUN AND POOR GAME DESIGN

(btw, from previews, spoilers, and proper warnings, I figured the 6 mech parts were this games mandatory collection sequence to reach the final level. which they kind of were. so there are in fact TWO mandatory collection sequences).

>>727631761
i knew about it two days ago and saw it posted at least twice. if you bought the game after watching the trailers it is entirely on you for having zero pattern recognition.

Nintendofags area really tying themselves in knots trying to defend this game as hard as they can. I haven't seen them this desperate since fucking Origami King.

>>727634046
>it's fine when Pooptendo does it

>>727634679
>>727634701
The game told you and warned you and you chose not to listen
Not the game's fault
Is it bad design? Of course
But it's still not the game's fault you ignored them

>>727634740
Side note, I started playing origami king a few days ago and kind of like it? I'm only like 3 hours in though. The battles are terrible and a waste of time, but once I've come to terms with paper mario as an RPG being dead, I kind of came to appreciate the charm and graphics enough to kind of deal with the game.

Is this just stockholm syndrome?

>>727634180
>It's just like the other games but worse!
>At least it warns you about the incoming tedium early!
Embarrassing. 18 years since MP3 should result in better design, not worse

>>727634740
that's how you know a game is 10/10 btw

>>727634331
Silksong cope all over again.
>it's not HARD, it's just NOT FUN
>IT'S TEDIOUS, NOT HARD
>I AM NOT BAD, THE GAME IS BAD, IT IS THE GAME THAT IS BAD, I AM NOT BAD BUT THE GAME IS BAD

>>727634331
They were the most fun I had with the game. You drive around and collect things with all your abilities and the shards just so happen to be around.

>>727633562
We shitposted about the desert and bike for days and then we were told to shut up because we weren't talking enough about the 20 year old gameplay that hadn't changed at all. The implementation of the desert is actually so much worse than I even dared to imagine.

>>727634854
I still feel that the game should have warned harder, but like I've said 20 times, it's a fucking moot point that you can shut up about already, it's poor game design, and you don't need to keep playing devil's advocate, and blaming the victim so that your precious game can dodge a bit of criticism

>>727634928
>I love tedious busywork it's so fun mm tasty shitty slop
Stupid fucking tendie piece of trash. Get shot in the face.

>>727634046
Imagine if Breath of the Wild made Korok Seeds mandatory for ending. Or hell, Tears of Kingdom made those blue rocks from depths mandatory.
It's easy to collect both, and you can end with shittons at the end of game... but getting them is not fun.

>>727634889
Collecting those green crystals is not fucking hard at all.

>>727631761
I’m not spending hours doing it, I’m getting it as I go

It's so funny watching nintendo shit out mid game after mid game on their fisher price tablet and seeing tendies eat shit with a smile.

I've enjoyed it for years

>>727634980
I like how you say this when the OP of the thread is playing the victim for being stupid

>>727635051
They're just mindless golems

>>727635013
LOL you're so mad, what fag.

>>727635041
>Imagine if Breath of the Wild made Korok Seeds mandatory for ending.
That would have been so good. Finally the faggots of /v/ would stop bitching about them.

>>727634889
It literally and objectively is tedious collecting the crystals. Like I said, YOU CAN'T FUCKIGN COLLECT A BATCH OF CRYSTALS IN ONE GO, THEY KEEP SPREADING THEM OUT WIDE ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET A FEW, THEN YOU HAVE TO SWERVE AROUND 1 OR 2 MORE TIMES TO GET THEM ALL. This isn't skill issue, your hitbox literally isn't big enough

Then there's other issues that make them tedious. draw distance not letting you properly prepare your trajectory so you have to make big turns toward one in your periphery, random sand dunes all over the place that force you to slow down or else you fly right over them, annoying fucking enemies that constantly harrass you (before you strawman that I dislike the enemies because I suck, they aren't difficult, they are annoying, a piece of subtlety /v/ will never come to grips with).

>>727631761
ocarina of time did literally the same thing and everyone loved it. retard, you just hate metroid

>>727635259
>broken shitjeet English
Every single time.

>>727634441
It's compared to BOTW because of the little shrines you go down to solve a puzzle and get an upgrade (they're literally called shrines). The actual best comparison is the sky from Skyward Sword: a big empty space you have to move across to get to the actual levels that are all rehashes from previous games (jungle, fire, ice, mines, etc.) and don't connect to each other (you know, like a Metroidvania should). Except it's even worse, because you can't fight Demise until you fly around and collect 1000000 rupees first. But don't worry, the game warns you about this early, so you can get this busywork out of the way as you play! I play videogames so I can get busywork out the way!

>>727635398
...You mean the Sage Medallions?

>>727635070
What should be your bigger priority and focus? engaging in discussion on whether the green crystals are good game design, or if OP is stupid or not? OP being stupid or not does not change anything about the green crystals.

But yes I agree with one thing. The game CONSTANTLY harasses you and holds you hand about where to go and when to check your map, and shit, but then just quickly mentions once at the beginning of the game about the importance of the green crystals? Just shitty game design no matter how you slice it or how stupid OP is

BAHAHAHA, filtered by the easiest non-task in the business. You can grab them while exploring, they're everywhere, retard.

>>727631761
Some people actually were talking about that. You just weren't paying attention.

>>727635041
I agree the green energy adds nothing to the fucking game, but seriously how bad does your gamer instinct have to be to not want to ram them as you pass by? It's literally the only thing to do in the desert as you drive through it. The fact remains that you don't even need to hit all of them, and the game gives you a shortcut for filling the quota if you really DID skip it and it most assuredly wouldn't take anyone more than 15 to 20 minutes if they really had to get all of them at once, it's not an hour of anything like OP said.

>>727635349
>capslock meltdown
Calm down Sandeep.

>>727635672
>tedium is okay because it's easy!
>you're just filtered if you don't like tedium

YOU
ARE
THE
WORST
THING
ABOUT
/V/

LITERALLY NO CRITICISM CAN HAPPEN ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU BATCH OF RETARDS BOIL IT DOWN TO A DIFFICULTY ARGUMENT EVERY TIME WHEN NOBODY IS EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY.

>>727634889
Silksong was bad though.

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>>727634441
>Its fun and new.
It's a giant, empty world with nothing to do, just like BotW and TotK. Nintendo doesn't understand open-world games on a fundamental level.

Shill up said so

Prime 4 sucks

>>727635919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLV3yc0fHe8?t=2842

for me it's Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Nintendo Switch 2 Edition

>>727635753
Read my other fucking posts dude, I thoroughly explained why they are tedious to collect and got no (you)'s. People just keep strawmanning "man, the crystals are actually EASY to collect, so you must suck at games if you don't enjoy getting them"
They are tedious as I explained, so I stopped going out of my way to get them. I'm so burnt out with open world games, and designers just peppering time wasting collectibles in every game. If I merely have to walk a few steps out of my trajectory, or change the angle of my control stick 5 degrees, yes I will get the crystals. But when I keep getting forced to drive from one corner of the desert to the other, I don't want to have to fucking make a 70 degree turn because some batch of crystals just popped up with the shtity draw distance. Uh oh, there's a hill between my and the crystals though, so I have to either slow down so the hill doesn't send my flying over the crystals, or I have to drive around the hill. and once I smash through them, I missed the little crystals on the left and right because for some reason they make the batches of crystals spread out wider than the bike, so if my "gamer instinct" wants me to not have my time wasted, I better turn around and do it again.

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>>727631761
I'll never understand how game developers and zoomers looked at the Windows XP wallpapers and decided those were the pinnacle of how games should be.

>>727634180
My question is do the green crystals halt your progression? Prime 1 had some chozo artifacts that you couldn't get on your first (or second/third) trip through an area and had to go out of your way to collect. Prime 2 made the temple keys for the area boss collectible along the way, but then the sky temple keys were almost all locked behind the light suit. Prime 3 at least made it so you didn't need all the energy cells if you knew which way to go. How does prime 4 handle it?

>>727631994
>>727632419
For sure;
If /v/ played videogames they would see that Prime 4 is a masterpiece.

>>727634889
Silksong is bad, glad we agree on this

>>727635828
>I'm shit at games
I'm aware

>>727635598
The game CONSTANTLY harasses you and holds you hand about where to go and when to check your map
Gonna be real here you guys are making a big deal about something that was in every prime game. They all had the map message telling you the target location, scan messages telling you exactly what item to use. It's just now Mr. Jewberg mentions it out loud one time when you cross the map. You'd think we had Fi back but they never repeat this shit so I really don't think it was so "handholdy" to remind you which area had the new items progress gated from time to time, if I didn't rush the game in 2 days that would've been good info

>>727636151
filtered, lol

>>727636259
>tendies are bad at games
Yes.

Prime 4 is good but it's no masterpiece like Elden Ring.

>>727635672
go count the pebbles in my front yard. what? that doesnt sound fun? pffff filtered

>>727636218
>The only people who hate Prime 4 are the ones who haven't played it.
Why am I not surprised?
/v/ is more busy shitposting about imaginary flaws than playing the game they shitpost about.

>>727634880
Kinda yeah
Maybe try M&L Brothership

>>727631761
It's more that the quippy NPCs were an omen of things to come, because when it rains it pours when it comes to egregiously bad game design. Especially if the company hides gameplay until right before release.

>>727636184
Yes. Literally the final dungeon locks you out until you collect enough green crystals. But there's also other shit, like collecting 6 mech parts around the desert, and of course the whole game you are collecting 5 keys, but those are the main collectible of the game, not a final dungeon key hunt.

The pro is that at least if you enjoy the tedious desert for some reason and have been diligent about collecting the crystals, this requirement will probably barely be a footnote. The bad thing is that if you hate tedious open worlds this is so much worse than other dungeon key hunts where you at least get encouraged to revisit old locations with new powerups (the very dna of the metroid genre). This green crystal hunt doesn't take advantage of any of your new power suit upgrades or newly acquired skills, just hope you enjoy driving around aimlessly for an hour

Just look at this shit (timestamp 4:02)
https://youtu.be/bA4M8kLMQLU?t=242

>>727636218
every single fucking time btw

>>727631761
>Get warned the game is bad
>Refuse to believe it
>Blame anyone else
At least you get to brag about spending money.

>>727636151
You're shit at the game and are mad about it.

>>727633767
It's not exploring, it's literally just systematically combing the massive empty desert.

>>727636445
Mike tells you about Bethy not even 1 hour after starting a new game though?

>>727636357
>Shitden Redditring
One of the worst games ever made, kys Fromshart.

>>727636445
I don't trust you on the green crystals having the same status as chozo artifacts or temple keys since you couldn't even be bothered to collect them. What about the mech parts, when do you learn that you have to collect them and are there any that require really going out of your way?

>>727636631
totk lost

>>727636398
I'm actually enjoying origami king more than brothership (but not a fair comparison, origami king I'm barely in).

Brothership was like twice as long as it needed to be to the point I struggled to finish it. Also had ZERO fucking charm, except for maybe once the final villain was officially revealed, like 40 hours in.
Brothership's battle system and gameplay fundamentals were solid, but like I said, I've almost come to enjoy origami king's charm over a traditional turn based RPG battle system.

>>727631761
maybe stop buying dogshit low effort kiddie games for your soiface console you fat retard. how many times do you need to publicly embarrass yourself like this before you realize YOUR immature addiction to this objective garbage is the problem?
How do you fail to recognize nintendo is entirely built around churning out cheap garbage in fancy packaging with bright colors for literal children? they make money off of oblivious parents buying this cheap dogshit for their retarded kids, you're an adult and you get hyped for this obvious cashgrab cheap shit, you defend it, you obsess over it, and you shell out hundreds of dollars for it, and then you have the audacity to get mad about it????
Fucking STOP BUYING IT YOU STUPID NIGGER.

>>727636657
Elden Shit is an objectively bad game.

>>727636632
The green crystal shit is the worst thing ever. You have to gather a considerable amount of them (not all) to unlock the final boss tower as well as you need to gather 6 mech parts. 4 of the mech parts are just walk and take, while 2 of them have a boss attached to it. 5 of them are in the desert and one of them is in the lava place with an okay boss. The one desert boss is an absolutely horrible fight that you do on your motorcycle, meaning that nothing fucking happens during it.
I can't stress enough how fucking horrible the green crystal gathering is

>>727636391
all the flaws are readily apparent just from the trailers, let alone a longplay. emulator bros and poor bastards like OP are just confirming what we know already: that the game is shit. not spending 70 bucks on it.

>>727634105
>You don't like it because you hate Myles and need music in your desert
I'm stealing this

>>727636803
And bad means you got filtered by the first tree sentinel because you don't know how to jump lol

>>727636184
The desert is basically fucking empty except for like 10 small 1 puzzle locations.
The crystals are mostly in a ring around the rim of the map so if you just go around the outside you will get a straight shot at most of them. Then there are ones scatted about the inner part of the map but mostly close to each other.
6 of those mini locations are shrines that give you upgrades to the elemental teams, those are progress gated by the beam unlocks and all of them have large amounts of the crystals
And then at endgame when you have powerbomb on the desert there are several large ore that can only be destroyed with the powerbomb and give you a ridiculous amount of the crystals. I only popped a couple and ended up with 125% of the total quota, there were still least 4 or 5 more I could've destroyed.

At 30% you get beam damage upgrade
At 60% you get a fucking radar for all the green crystals on the map making the whole thing trivial, so the one thing making it "tedious" which would be finding ones you didn't pop already, is a non issue.
100% gets you the final suit, needed to best the game.

So to answer your question you aren't progress gated by this "collectible" except the game treats you to even faster completion if you have more progress.

>>727634105
>it's your fault that we're bad-faith defenders of corporations! look at what you made us do!

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>Play slop for kids
>Shit yourself in rage because it's slop for kids

>>727634679
>The difference is that all those things in previous games were big goals at end of challenging sections
Lmao no. I beat Prime 1 as a kid and even I could tell it was just padding same as the triforce hunt.

>>727636632
>mech parts
You learn about them maybe like 60% through the game? Problem is that you need a "teleporter" upgrade to teleport them to base camp. You get that teleporter upgrade by HOPEFULLY stumbling upon an NPC that is just randomly chilling by an unmarked rock in the desert. I ran into this NPC kind of late in the game. But even then the mech parts aren't really out of your way, and if you know where they are, most of them are simple as just driving there.

>I don't trust you on the green crystals.
Not sure why. They are LITERALLY required to open the final dungeon. That's where i'm at now. Now that I've taken a break from driving around the desert, I've heard other people run into this issue where they didn't think they'd be that important and now at the end of the game have to drive around the shitty desert. Even casually collecting the crystals as you pass by them won't be enough though, as for half of the game I was pretty diligent collecting them, then I gave up on them and stopped, and I was nowhere near close.

>>727636218
I don't know about masterpiece
I think when people realize it's Ocarina of Time instead of Metroid they will appreciate it more, and I have to say all the bosses were good except for that lame sand fish.

>>727636803
And Tears of the Kingdom STILL lost to it??? Yeesh, TotK really was a disaster.

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Hey, so like...how come Myles doesn't tell you to collect all the green crystals? I mean, that's what he's there for, right? To tell you how to play the game and extrapolate on what makes each element important? They wouldn't force his poochie ass into the game and just suddenly forget to have him emphasize the significance of an endgame requirement, would they?

>>727636632
You're a fucking retard
the green crystals are mandatory
what the fuck is wrong with people like you
Go to YouTube and type the game in and go click the last two hours, are you physically disbsled you dumb fuck

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Are there moments in any past Metroid games where you're required to farm a randomly spawning resource e.g the crystals rather than meet pre-defined objectives on the map? I may be wrong but this seems like a new and bad development.

>>727634180
They are not comparable. The artifact, key and cell hunts used all of your abilities, tested your knowledge of the world to find them based on the hints and encouraged you to scour for missile expansions and energy tanks and the like at the same time.

The green crystals are literally just sitting out in the open desert. It's just a grind.

>>727632357
>I just assumed they were for completionists
They are. You don't need to 100% the game, tranny.

>>727637079
NTA but yes. Still doesn't change the fact Elden Shit is trash.

>>727636151
You should be bitching about something material like "why does this game make me comb the desert for little orange glows to yank up a missile exp for 100%" not "i was too lazy to smash any crystals while driving and too dumb to powerbomb the ore and finish it in minutes"

>>727636940
>So to answer your question you aren't progress gated by this "collectible" except the game treats you to even faster completion if you have more progress.
Are you ESL, or typed this in a hurry? I literally can't interpret what you are saying. "you aren't progress locked by this "collectible" but you need 100% to get the final suit which is needed to beat the game"

>>727633827
>too busy posting dumbass shit like "ERM, APPLOGIZE TO METROID DREAD!"
...Did you apologize, though?

>>727635051
Thank you for the endless seething, I’ve enjoyed it for years
You obsession is entertaining

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>>727634105
This
/v/ only picks extremely insignificant "flaws" (for them, at least) and keeps repeating them ad nauseam. Who cares if the game plays well and is fun? For /v/, the minor flaws that only they care about are what really matter.

>>727633827
What if they completed the ultimate hardcore 3D metroidvania but tanabe made them scrap it because of focus testing on the Nintentoddler "y can't metroid crawl' people.

>>727636905
More like I got filtered after wandering around a boring, empty open world for 5 hours or so. It's a shit game.
>>727637079
>Fromshart can't defend his slop so he cries about superior games instead

>>727634889
When you realize this isn't about Silksong but it applies to /v/'s criticism about almost any game they actually ended up playing

Just no lifed it and finished. Damn that was not worth the 8 year wait just overall incredibly disappointing. Fuck the stupid quip shit and desert talk, the level design is whats awful and barely feels like a metroidvania. Unfortunately I think it's rip for the Prime series, this shit is going to bomb financially (I mean worse than typical metroids).

>>727637147
There's a difference between mandatory and halting progression. Something can be mandatory but does not necessarily halt your progression.
>collect essence to unlock the white palace and radiance fight for the true ending in hollow knight
Mandatory, you're given the dream nail early on and can collect essence along the way from dream warriors.
>collect the sky temple keys to get to emperor ing
Halting progression, it's impossible to collect a majority of the keys until that's the only thing left to do.

>>727637583
Obviously not, the series peaked at 1 and has been going downhill since.

>>727634964
>20 year old gameplay that hadn't changed at all
You guys always say new bad old good so why is this an issue?

>>727633562
Nah, the music is actually pretty good.

>>727635540
>I play videogames so I can get busywork out the way!
You don't get to pretend to say this ironically when the board's favorite genre by a wide margin is gachashit.

>>727637117
He tells you to bring them back when you have enough for one of the milestones from that task.
He doesn't tell you to collect them because you'd have to be willfully avoiding them to not get any at all, Hellen Keller could unlock the green crystal finder if you left her alone with the game for an hour and told the to just move the stick around

>>727637354
You aren't progress gated on the process of collecting it, which was what he asked if you read closely to his question and examples of things like sky temple keys locked behind light suit.

>buy open world slop
>WHY DO I HAVE TO DO OPEN WORLD THINGS
You love to see it.

>>727637162
MP4 isn't a Metroid game, it's Zelda with a gun and this is its triforce hunt moment.

>>727636991
You fags were literally complaining about the game having a "point of no return" yesterday when nearly every Metroid game has it. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>727637614
Yeah it was really disappointing. I still think it will sell well, but I hope Nintendo gives enough shit to Retro to make changes happen for Prime 5. I don't know what the fuck Retro did for 6 years, but this was just a mess

>c-c-come on guys, the desert is just like those older Zelda games you like!!!
This pitch reeks of desperation on several levels, especially hot off the heels of both Aonuma and BotW fanboys declaring pre-BotW Zelda games "obsolete" for the past couple years.

>>727637907
Kek alright, just wondering if it's the game or if it really is OP throwing himself for a loop.

>>727635540
>The actual best comparison is the sky from Skyward Sword:

Yeah. I agree with this comparison. What i dont get on board with is comaring it with BotW because its nothing like it. The shrines in MP4 are good if anything and finding them is nice.In botw youre kind of fed with them after youve done like 10. And in totk i didnt even bother getting them all.

In any case, MP4 is such a weird game. Its so strange to see how retro has lost their grasp on the franchise. Its so odd to see such uninspired level design when its the one thing they landed in each one mp game. Even MP3 had cool ideas for thw different settings. But man, in mp4 every room of each area is the same. And im so tired of seeing the same defense drones everywhere and cargo vehicles everywhere.

>>727638062
I should be able to walk out of the final boss in any video game so I can go back to stomping goombas in the second level or whatever

>>727638235
Okay there Chris Pratt.

>>727631761
>HOURS AT THE END
me, just casually driving through the desert and having gained 50% of the crystals required while just casually driving through

Seriously, the only way for it to be a grind is having to ignored all green crystals all game long until the VERY end, never even looking for upgrades or anything either.

>In Volt Forge
>Sylux boss fight
>Beat his ass
>Turns out it was just a projection cast upon a drone
Sylux! Fight me like a bounty hunter, you BITCH!

>>727636373
HE MAD

>>727638413
Dunno I had to waste like half an hour mindlessly driving around the desert and that was boring enough

>>727638150
If he spent even 2 minutes using his brain he'd know you can use the powerbomb on these giant rocks that probably fill the quota instantly if you bomb them all
Hell even if he just drove through the regular ones he would've beaten the game since the thread started.
Not defending the design choice because they are honestly completely worthless as a game mechanic, but you really have to willfully avoid them since there is almost nothing else to do in the map between the areas and they're specifically places on the lines between the areas.

>>727638413
>ignored all green crystals all game long until the VERY end
You'll never guess what faggot op keeps admitting he did

>>727636548
>He doesn't understand what exploration is
oh no no no no hahahaha

>>727638462
>*it's a hologram*
One of the worst ways to have a fight without actually having the fight

>>727631761
I was thinking about buying a switch 2 just to get this game. When I saw the wide open, empty world you needed to drive around in, I knew this would be a disaster. I'm so glad I can continue my streak on never buying Nintendo crap.

>>727638470
how could i be mad? i havent payed for or played this piece of shit game. im here to advise others to do the same.

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>Find the green crystals
shut up Myles.
>This thread
save me Myles McMan!

>>727638602
>he's poor

>>727638579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dom7VlltBUc

>>727637223
>Cell hunts used all of your abilities
You literally got 4 of them for free in the main game

>>727637586
You're told exactly when to go. Only a simpleton would wander around getting bored lol

>>727638579
You definitely shouldn't get NS2 for this game just play the NS1 version
The hub world isn't really that bad the total time spent in it is barely even 10% of a game with 5 main areas

>>727638682
Keep throating this turd like a good tendie, you cunt.

>>727637583
I'm convinced Bamco's version was scrapped because it wasn't enough of an empty braindead open-world walking/driving simulator for modern Nintendo.

>>727638682
i dunno why shills try this line so often. the average wage in the usa is like 60k. that isn't enough money to just blindly buy a shitty 70 dollar game hoping that it's good. so what, your target audience of only affluant two income homes is gonna buy it? no. they have careers and go skiing on the weekends and shit. they spend 70 dollars on a half carafe of good wine, not a botched version of a 20 year old (formerly) good series.

anyway i could emulate it on my pc even if i was poor and im not gonna even do that.

I thought the scene where Samus forced Myles to into snusnu and made Armstrong rim her was a little much

Bizarre how the only footage that I see from people is this Myles character and the desert

>>727634889
Silksong WAS hard but it was also tedious, they're not mutually exclusive and some of the tedious shit in that game didn't even have anything to do with the challenging stuff.

>>727638614
jej

>>727631761
>NOBODY FUCKING WARNED ME THAT I WOULD HAVE TO SPEND HOURS AT THE END OF THE GAME FARMING GREEN CRYSTALS TO OPEN THE FINAL DUNGEON
actually the first review I watched of the game mentioned that

>>727638489
>If he spent even 2 minutes using his brain
You ask too much of the nin10yearold

>>727631761
i dont have that game

>>727631761
and yet I did
are you sure you aren't just illiterate?

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>tells you exactly what you need to know, when you need to know it
Looks like it's time to apologize.

>>727638932
How about I rape your mother's corpse, you piece of fuck?

>>727638791
>you're held by the hand and guided down a linear path so the gigantic, empty open world is pointless
Thanks for agreeing, Frombrown.

>>727637682
Because its not a blanket NPC statement. You want it to be a stupid catch all meme when the charge against modern games has substance. console FPS games are one of the only genres that did actually improve significantly in that time frame.

>>727631761
Please tell me someone else didn't know the Bike Lava upgrade was in Tower 3 of Volt Forge...I looked at the map and there was fucking nothing showing up other than the fucking area at the very bottom of Tower 1

>complains about hand-holding characters and game design
>didn't pay enough attention to know you need to collect a certain item to unlock the final level

This is why games have shit like yellow paint and use DSP as a reference point for their design. You won't admit it, but deep down you need shit like this.

>>727638062
>complaining about the game having a "point of no return" yesterday when nearly every Metroid game has it.
Super is the only game with a true point of no return. Fusion kinda technically has one, but the devs had the good sense to unlock it once you reload a beaten file.

>>727640240
>console FPS games are one of the only genres that did actually improve significantly in that time frame.
Yeah by adding a second analog stick for camera control

>>727631761
>Wind Waker overworld but worse
>Triforce Shard Hunt but worse
lmao what a good game

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>>727631761
when that guy joked about there being a second bar to fill up.
..and then there was one.
>"I WAS JOKING!"

>>727631761
my fucking sides
it takes talent to fuck up this badly

>>727639243
Nothing in Silksong was tedious. What the fuck are you even talking about? Don't tell me you had to grind for anal beads, you lying faggot.

>>727640284
Just you anon
Seriously I saw the thing sitting there the first time you go to tower 3 and thought "oh I guess I will get this upgrade after I get boost ball"

The upgrade progression is also really weird in this game. Super missiles and power bombs are given like 15 minutes apart from one another and both barely get used after you get them.
Also shoutout to the IC upgrade for the bike that gets used in grand total 1 area to make the bike hover over lava

...Anyways, Primehack or Metroid Prime Remasterd?

>>727637751
It's bad. Too much fantasy, not sci-fi enough.

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>>727631761
That's because everyone expected the moto section and the "open world" desert to be shit ever since it was introduced multiple months ago.
We only had the reveal of the squad of JarJar Binks at the very tail end of marketing and we didn't expect the regular Prime gameplay to be so hamstrung by them, that's why everyone has been focusing on it and not the desert.

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>>727631761
Move over metroid your time is over, now we are the Nintendo sci-fi pillar

>>727641894
Monolithsoft has delivered good games in the past 10 years and somehow gotten them to look good on the Switch so props to them

>>727641894
Who is that woman on the left with shulk's weapon?

>>727641894
Given how X3 sold less than X2, I'm very afraid that Nintendo's higher ups might want to start meddling with the series like how people think Tanabe did with Prime 4 to shove more Galactic Feds.

>>727641302
Primehack. Better controls, adds back in the NGC lighting effects.

>>727638413
Spreading that time wasted over a playthrough doesn't really make the task better or more interesting.

>>727642553
The feds turned out to be actually useful unless you're OP so maybe Xenoblade could use some executive meddling

>>727640449
yes, and removing shitty lock on aiming with slow ass enemies who fire gigantic bullets that are easy to dodge. By generating enemy encounters that have actual risk reward and require strategic thinking beyond hitting a giant glowing weak point. You bring this up and the only argument against it is that prime isn't about combat despite a massive portion of the game being combat oriented.

oatsngoats, that super metroid speedrunner is ragequitting out of prime4 on stream right now.

>>727639191
Probably because people hate them and wish they didn't exist?

OATS JUST QUIT THE GAME ITS OVER

>>727642919
>>727643057
Lmao he switched to Prime 3

You're already at the final dungeon what the fuck?

>>727643209
yesterday he said prime 4 might be better than 2 or 3. now hes just pissed off about it. mustve changed his mind.

putting prime 2 on the level of 3 shows him to be a tard.

>>727643335
The game does get a lot worse after the halfway point

>>727642919
Why, what happened?

>>727643386
Is just incredibly unfun and rage inducing (because how bad it is) to speedrun

>>727642824
>You bring this up and the only argument against it is that prime isn't about combat
Alright then this will be my next argument since I was shitposting, but I'll need you to disregard the part you wrote after that so I can win this one

>>727643386
he fell asleep going from one end of the desert to the other and woke up on the wrong side of his gaming chair

>>727643335
His cope phase faded out

>>727642919
>>727643057
Cherry picking an e-celebs opinion aside. I get the distinct feeling we're going to see a lot more of this once more people get to the awful latter half of the game.

>>727643492
I'm curious how speed runners will route the green crystals. Apparently you can get a lot of them quick at the very end of the game, but then you are forgoing the power beam upgrade and other upgrades the entire game. You won't have enough just by speeding from one critical path point to the next.

You get a decent chunk from the shrines, but I don't see any of those being useful in a speedrun (or casually, why the fuck am I going to need 2 fucking ice shot upgrades, that use 10 ammo and all it does is bounce)

>>727643707
yeah though he has been on the front page of twitch for playing prime 4 so word is out on it being a shitheap.

>>727643767
I don't think people will want to run this game

Does it explain how sylux gets reality warping powers that make all of samus' entire history of powerups look like nothing? (Haven't beaten the game yet, just watching final boss on youtube)

I feel like the game needed a different final boss, sylux doesn't even feel relevant to the story other than throwing a huge fit for like 20 years

>>727644025
No and they don't even explain why there are Metroids in the psychic world or why they can now fuse with monsters

If there's one thing I've learned from this God awful board (espically since elden ring and silksong) is some of you faggots just need to come to grips you might actually be mediocre or bad at video games. Maybe a bit in the spectrum or low IQ as well. Just because you use the spooky scary anonymoose website that all your reddit friends warned you about doesn't make you some kind of hard-core gamer and brain genius maverick.

>>727642919
vinny quit playing it earlier too.

>>727640897
>Nothing in Silksong was tedious
This is your brain on fanboyism, I'm not even gonna dignify this with a serious response.

>>727642553
It'd probably help if they dropped the name and numbers and started a new Xeno series so people don't feel daunted by not having played the rest of the games in the series. Like no one is gonna feel compelled to play Xenosaga before Xenoblade.

>>727643492
>because how bad it is to speedrun
Oh, so...something only trannies care about. Got it.

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>massive meat roid primus fan
>tendies trying to convince me it's the greatest game ever because of brand loyalty
>snoys trying to convince me it's absolutely dogshit because they have nothing to play
>can't tell if this is a case where reviewers are right or wrong
>personally think it looks a bit shit in the trailers

I just don't know who to trust. Think my best bet is wait for a sale.

>>727644146
Cool

>>727631994
>I must play the whole game
Even setting Mackenzie & Friends aside, watching footage of the boss fights, the desert, and ending is enough to see how shit this game is. The bike and psychic powers don't look fun. I don't need to waste $70 and 10 hours of my life to figure that out.

>>727644569
Also a huge metroid fan and I can tell you, it's pretty meh. Easily the worst prime game but it's still ok, i agree waiting for a sale is your best bet.

>>727631761
Yeah they really padded the fuck out of that. This game is the Halo 4 of the prime series and it’s all downhill from here

>>727644569
Not even the casual Nintendo fans are liking it, it is bad

>>727640897
NTA but the fact that you even can grind for anal beads so easily makes the entire loss upon death system worthless, it's just in the game because TC are fromfags but has no good design reason to be there
Also the entire wish quest system was the definition of tedium, I don't know of a single person that thought that shit was fun

>>727631761
What part of 'BotW style padded open world' did you not understand, you delusional cockmongling moron? We've been telling you for fucking months, since the first trailer with the retarded desert and the bike that this was going to happen.

>>727644569
I've seen huge tendie streamers quit it. Even the biggest fan boys are having gripes and these niggas defend modern pokemon games. Take that information as you will.

>>727631761
your post is literally
>OMFG WHY WERE YOU ALL TAKING ABOUT THE ELEPHANT SHIT ON MY PLATE
>NONE OF YOU TOLD ME THERE WERE RAZOR BLADES HIDDEN INSIDE THE ELEPHANT SHIT
>I WAS ALREADY HALF WAY THROUGH EATING THE SHIT BEFORE I FOUND THE RAZOR BLADES IN MY MOUTH-WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME!!!!
nigger, genuinely kill yourself. you had all the warnings to not touch the game

>>727644569
You seriously can't watch 5 minutes of gameplay and determine if a game is good or not? You're actually dumb as rocks

>>727644569
Perhaps the answer lies somewhat in the middle and it's just a mediocre game that fails to meet the expectations people had for it since it was announced forever ago.

>>727631761
>Chozo Artifacts
>Sky temple keys
>Power cells
>Smashing green crystals
Fuck me why is retro so autistic

>>727644627
Fucking this. I tuned into a few different people at various times and parts of the game. That shit just looks boring beyond belief
>scan a bazillion things
>shoot main weapon
>charge shoot main weapon
>shoot missile
>kill 1 enemy
>shoot main weapon
>charge shoot main weapon
>shoot missile
>kill 2nd enemy
>5 more enemies to go
>claw your eyeballs out just to feel something

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>>727644569
I waited 18 fucking years for this and I am genuinely mad as fuck. I don't even give a shit about the cali tier writing the enemy design and variety is poor, the bosses are mediocre, the handholding is fucking insane, the level design is barely passable. Im almost at the halfway point and I heard it goes down hill hard from here and I will genuinely scream if it gets any fucking worse.

>>727644930
>personally think it looks a bit shit in the trailers
Nice reading comprehension, retard kun.

Man, the amount of coping that you faggots are going through just to pretend that the game is good is genuinely insane.
And I thought I was pathetic for forcing myself to enjoy the shit out of rune factory 5 because I genuinely thought that I would never get to play that game after the studio went bankrupt.

>>727644569
I'm also a huge metroid fan but the open world killed my hype for it and then Myles killed any intrest I had left.
Everything I've found out over the past few days blackpilled me on the game. I don't think it's worth playing.

>>727644569
It's just ok.

>>727631761
Why weren't you collecting crystals as you went? I didn't have to grind.

>>727645008
This is it basically. Games fine. Just fine. Very lukewarm, probably best to pick it up when it's 30 bucks and you wanna kill a weekend. Im very fucking disappointed I waited 20 fucking years for this but, eh, whatever. Least it didn't turn out absolutely dogshit.

>>727645031
The artifact and temple key hunts are great how you can possibly compare this to green crystals... The artifacts and keys make you explore the map again so you can use your abilities to get more upgrades the green crystals just waste your time in a giant empty field

>>727645136
So then why don't you trust your instincts?

>>727644627
>psychic powers don't look fun
You don't like *checks notes* ...healing unwanted teammates and jumping on floating platforms that quite honestly shouldn't have needed to tie into the psychic shit? What are you, a snoyric that lost and got raped?

For people actually playing:

What are your main complaints and how would you fix them? What would you add/remove?

>>727645254
>when the games 30 bucks
>1st party tendie game
>going over half price off
See ya in 7-10 years maybe

>>727631761
We warned you about the red flags, retard.

>>727645343
Because I waited 18 years for a new entry to one of my favourite series's. Its really fucking hard to think "oh damn the games actually a bit pants. Guess I'll have to skip it and hope the next one is good in another 20 years when im 50"

It hurts, dog.

>>727645375
eh some of them do go on sale for that price like super mario rpg. depends on how well it sells, if it doesn't sell well then at the very least retail stores will discount copies.

Shillup warned all the redditors. Only chronically online 4chan chuds didn't get the memo.

>>727638146
Especially since classic Zelda games didn't make you walk across the entire map before you could use the dungeon items.

>>727644678
>Easily the worst prime game
Funny how everyone forgets Hunters

OP is kinda right. Because the reality is that a lot of tortanic posters don't play the games they shitpost about and never planned to, they just snowball on the first problem they see in a video and that becomes the focus for all the spam threads. Pre-release it was about the graphics which is ironic now because the game actually looks pretty good.
Prime 4 has a shitload more things wrong with it
>So far the extra characters range from annoying to harmless, but definitely shouldn't have been included at all
>Desert and bike both suck. The desert is empty and silent, and the bike isn't fun to control at all
>Because of the desert all the normal levels are completely segregated from one another, so it is no longer an interconnected map
>Even the levels themselves are way more linear. That's linear as in layout and not progression, progression has always been linear in Metroid (not abusing glitches or exploits) after the first game
>Forced combat sections are even more plentiful than Prime 3, and often have multiple waves
>There definitely seems to be a lot more cutscenes, even if you only include ones with just Samus there's so many instances where you enter a room and a little cutscene plays to show off something stupid
>Turning beams into missiles is dumb, having to go to Myles to install them is even worse
>Everything has such a bland name. "Fire Shot", "Ice Belt", "Flare Pool", "Green Energy". It feels like placeholder names that no one came and fixed, especially compared to the likes of "Phendrana Drifts", "Agon Wastes", "Bryyo"
>The scan logs are completely soulless, there are fuck all lore ones and the research logs you can find aren't very interesting either
>No Space Pirates past the intro (so far), definitely no Space Pirate logs

>>727645056
Bro... You were at the good part of the game. The lava area and the mines are fucking awful

>even the most hard-core tendies are shitting on it
Honestly, good for them. It's about time you faggots started biting back. You defended the 3D pokemon games tooth and nail and that made nintendo realise they could half ass the fuck out of them and you'd still buy it. Now that you all grew a spine maybe the next metroid game won't be another downgrade.

>>727645464
you're never getting another good prime game, just accept its dead. Retro have proven they are incapable. Just hope someone builds on what prey did and makes a new sci-fi immsim metroid.

>>727636178
>zoomers looked at the Windows XP wallpapers and decided those were the pinnacle of how games should be.
fuck you man i grew up having fun playing sims 2, zoo tycoon, and roller coaster tycoon

>>727643335
Prime 2 is only marginally better than Prime 3. Prime 3 just has a shittier intro

>>727645571
>Funny how everyone forgets Hunters
Who said I forgot hunters?

nah, yeah, you're right. I forgot hunters lmao

>>727645298
Artifacts aren't too bad. But the sky temple keys definetly are. You already back track for upgrades all the time in 2. And even if you spot them you can't collect them without the special visor.

>>727645254
>I waited 20 years and had to buy a shitty tablet AND pay 70 plus tax plus tip to play a game not worth 20
>but it's playable and not complete broken dogshit, so...win?

>>727645367
Remove the director of the game and half of the staff for good measure.
Seriously, it feels like the ones in charge had no idea how to make a Metroid game and just tried to wing it.
>Remove the desert and make the jungle area a hub that connects to all areas
>Remove the NPCs or at least remove all segments where you need to babysit them
>Remove bike
>Add more enemies
>Add more upgrades
>Add a coherrent story, none of what happens makes any sense and they don't explain almost anything other than the lore of the planet
>Rework the whole map from the ground up
>Add meaningful usage for your upgrades instead of making just 1 or 2 locks that need to be opened by the upgrade
>More morphball puzzles

>>727645464
Welcome to the club. Time to get a new hobby.

>>727645582
>Everything has such a bland name. "Fire Shot", "Ice Belt", "Flare Pool", "Green Energy". It feels like placeholder names that no one came and fixed, especially compared to the likes of "Phendrana Drifts", "Agon Wastes", "Bryyo"
This is a very good point. The areas are named so badly in this game it's unreal

Why is there like no music in this game? Let alone anything memorable

>>727645571
Yeah but it had amazing multiplayer and cool characters (including Sylux before he turned gay)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcqBbz79Iog

>>727645582
>desert is silent
What are you, poor? :^]

>>727631761
>he wasn't just casually picking them up as he flew through the desert
You were warned, feels bad that you didn't get those upgrades until the end of the game.

>>727645582
>cringe characters don't fit
>desert and bike are shit
>open world ruins the interconnected nature of prime, also it looks boring/lazy as fuck
>baby halo aesthetics, bombastic cutscenes and an action focus that doesn't fit
>creatively bankrupt powers
>shitty looking combat
>tranny writer means all the writing is going to be shit and cringe
This is the list of complaints that were floated after watching trailers, it is almost identical to your list after playing the game. you are just proving that they have good judgement and didn't need to play it.

>>727645768
>You already back track for upgrades all the time in 2
Not really, at least not on the main path. Each area is pretty closed off except for one upgrade you need to leave and get before coming back (Seekers and Power Bomb). Prime 3 was like this too

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Will Nintendo take Microsoft to court for Halo Infinite being a better scifi FPS game now that Beyond flopped?

I remember coping that the areas would connect to each other and it would just be early game where you have to access them by the desert. Funny how that worked out...

>>727645828
>the ones in charge had no idea how to make a Metroid game
Prime has never been a Metroid game.

Hey guys, vinny vinesauce here. Wow this game is amazing! *drops it after one video*

>>727645582
>Everything has such a bland name. "Fire Shot", "Ice Belt", "Flare Pool", "Green Energy". It feels like placeholder names that no one came and fixed, especially compared to the likes of "Phendrana Drifts", "Agon Wastes", "Bryyo"

This is what bothers me greatly. It even seems like enemy names have no thought into them. Are the snow wolves really just that? Snow wolf? Don't they have something cool like Volfon?

>>727646246
I thought for sure it would be like that. Would it have really killed them to add teleports that connect the zones? Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking? The level design is ridiculously boring because it's just 5 hallways with a few extra rooms attached. And the part where the game lies and tells you it's up to you to pick 1 of 3 remaining areas and marks them on the map when only 1 area has progress. For what reason?

Am I crazy or does this game have zero indication about what stuff is important to scan and what isn't? Most of it is just enemies but the few lore things I have found were presented identically to the tonnes of other shit that didn't matter at all

>>727646684
>Thought I found shriek bats
>They were just some other shitty creatures that do the same thing but slower

>>727646781
....you mean the scanning stuff is done wrong too? in Prime, red meant you needed to scan it to advance something. Orange was just generic flavor text.

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>>727631761
i ruined a game with my frickin millennitard jewish quips?!

>>727646781
Yellows are usually the important ones, but sometimes greens also are so it's just fucking dumb. The green also gets mixed up really easily in the scenery in some places

>>727646881
To follow up, it wasn't always truly orange being pure flavor text. Usually a word in the text would be red to indicate something, like if something were made of bendezium.

>>727646325
>Defends Nintendo for the entirety of the video
What an absolute Nintentoddler

>>727646974
I feel like yellows are the important progression ones like switches and elevators, but the lore scans are all green from what I remember
>>727647023
I remember seeing a few things mention Bendezium but it wasn't highlighted at all

>>727637046
but I wanted Metroid, not OOT

>>727647104
Which is weird, that's usually an easy way to signify to the player 'hey, this is an important detail'. Especially if you scan a boss and it says its made of Bendezium.

I'm in the ice area and it's fucking pathetic. you just walk around and collect these keys. there are barely enemies at all. I think I'm done with this game man they aren't even trying

Eric lost and got rapes eric LOST ANDBGOT FUCKING RAPED TRANNT FUCKER ERIX LOST AND GOT FUCKING RAPED HAMES GONNA SELL MILLLIONS RAPED ERIC NIGGER

>>727647594
Did you get raped?

>>727631761
>muh green crystals
think of it as the shitty artifact/sky temple key grind that sours the entire soup

i remember telling you that the nintendo bonus and woke bonus means the real game is a 5/10 or 6/10 at best and that they are hiding how actually really bad the game is. you should have listened. this is real stuff.

>>727647594
Are the snow wolves really just called that? no interesting enemy name??

>>727647771
I literally couldn't get raped if I tried. The only opposition are these weak ass little robots. They're already re-skinning enemies that's also a really bad sign.

>>727647794
Artifacts are fine

>>727647839
idk and that fight was so annoying. gee I love being completely surrounded with no cover at all.

>>727647880
The artifact hunt sucked ass, but I would take it any day over driving in circles for green crystals

>tendies mind broken that the one unique series they have that isnt just "what if Mario was a cashier at wallmart? Or he played hockey?" And waited 18 years for ended up being shit
Lmao enjoy your Mario's crossbow training and Mario and luigi guitar hero games for the next 18 years because you ain't gonna get fuck all else

>>727647932
Well, if you see them again, scan them? With so much generic things named in this game, I imagine even the enemies are lacking in creativity.

>>727638062
>when nearly every Metroid game has it
can you stop lying your ass off you piece of shit? only super metroid has one
>metroid doesn't have one (dying puts you back at tourian)
>metroid 2 doesn't have one
>prime doesn't have one (you can leave impact crater whenever)
>prime 2 doesn't have one (you can leave the sky temple whenever)
>prime 3 doesn't have one (you're prevented from leaving phaaze. resetting reloads your last save)
>fusion doesn't have one (you can reload your save after beating the boss and voila)

>>727648018
I'm definitely not going to see them again because I'm done with the game lol. I just checked the log book and they weren't in there, I swear I scanned it though. and yeah all they do is run at you and swipe. That fight goes on for like 5 fucking minutes, you probably kill a hundred of the things before the cutscene stops the fight.

>>727643767
I don't see this game having much of a speed running scene compared to the other Metroids. It's even more linear than Prime 3.

Jak and Daxter did it better

Why do I keep seeing videos of people just slowly panning the camera around?

To be fair Metroid Prime 3 is also fucking garbage

>>727631761
the fucking graphics holy shit

>>727644025
Sylux, the pirates and the Metroids feel very tacked on, I expect he was likely thrown in after Tanabe was moved to the project after Retro had been floundering for awhile or was just added out of obligation to Prime 3 and Federation Force's endings.

The Metroids seem very blatant, in addition to just being supposedly used to power up the bosses some of them, like Xelios don't make any sense.

>>727648682
4K! low polygons.

>>727648372
Fair enough, they seemed super boring.

>>727631761
Thanks for playing

>>727647976
>snoys ragging on a video game because it isn't a movie game
>>727646239
flock off using doro for your inane shitposts

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seeing what metroid is going through makes me wonder if star fox is better off not getting another game

>>727648735
It's weird because the entire beginning segment is way more interesting than Viewros. They should have just made the focus be on Sylux/pirates/metroids and leave all this psychic shit on the drawing board

>>727648941
Star Fox getting an open world hub wouldn't be anything as bad as doing this to Metroid Prime

>>727648941
But Dread was good

>>727648941
Starfox was never good tho

>>727648957
The thing that gets me about is for years some people complained about U-MOS being selfish in asking for Samus's help in unfucking Aether but he makes the point that the Ing will fuck up other planets.

These dead assholes in Prime 4 literally kidnapped Samus from across the universe and make her go through their shit so she can make people remember them. Absolute shitheads.

>>727631870
BOTW is kino and designed with open world in mind. MP4 just decided to slap that whole section in with no care or thought.

>>727648941
The radio chatter would be obnoxious and not in the funny way if how the Prime 4 Feds were handled is any indication.

>>727633562
You lost all reason and outed yourself as a shitposter the moment you said the music was "something sharted by an AI" you dumb nigger faggot.

>>727648941
just don't let americans make it. ez.

>>727640535
>the shrines and big empty overworld with a motorcycle are a coincidence

>>727631870
Game is nothing like BOTW you stupid nigger and is more like TP but it's nice that you're still mindbroken by it

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>>727649153
It's not even a fair comparison. U-MOS is actually physically present which grounds it infinitely more. He asks for help purely opportunistically, and Samus feels kind of obligated since they were homies with the Chozo. The first thing that happens story-wise in 4 is a hologram pops up and goes "chosamus you were prophesized to save us" like damn bro I just fucking got here.

>>727648941
Star Fox already has multiple completely garbage games. It really can't go much lower.

>>727648941
Star Fox would require having a good record of games for you to even put out that thought.

>>727649153
U-mos also just asks. She's stranded there for a bit while her ship repairs itself but if she didn't want to help with the Ing she could just leave. Is Prime 4 the first time Samus is genuinely stranded on a planet that she had no intention of visiting?

Since we're on the subject, why is starfox 64 so popular anyway, it's 2 hours of content, it doesn't look very pretty, there's a lot of annoying things and boring levels, the gameplay is insanely contrived, so why? cause of the gamepack?
I liked the two starfox on gamecube better

>>727649719
Unless there's some obscure manga thing I do believe so.

>>727649790
Precisely because it is 2 hours of content, it doesn't drag on long enough for you to hate it I suppose.

>>727631761
Cant wait for all the fags that said the desert and the bike weren't bad to suddenly realize that and then finally understand a big reason why this game sucks ass. And I say this as a big Metroid fan. Fuck Retro.

>>727648735
The game in general does feel like it's four different unrelated builds that were hastily thrown together.

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>BotWfags spend 8 years making surface-level comparisons to Zelda 1 to claim seniority over "OoT-likes" by proxy
>anons point out surface-level comparisons between Prime 4 to BotW
>now BotWfags scream NO WAIT STOP IT YOU'VE GOT IT ALL WRONG IT'S NOTHING LIKE BOTW

>>727649319
>radio chatter would be obnoxious
they just need to do it mgs-style. just every time there's an event update, and maybe when your wingmen are under attack
>>727649101
sf64 is one of the most fondly remembered games from 5th gen

>>727650053
SF64 is the only Starfox game that anyone ever gave a fuck about. It's been 30 years and just about every game since has been a letdown. Who the fuck cares? Let it just be. SF64 will always be there.

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>727650050
Your comparison is surface level though, unlike that of Botw and Zelda 1, the former who had a test build made for it on NES.
Meanwhile, Prime 4's desert is more like the desert from Ratchet and Clank 2, but if you want to make the comparison with Zelda by all means, it's way more similar to Twilight Princess' Hyrule field.
But of course, you don't care about that you just wanted this (you) so badly.

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>>727650331
>on NES
No they fucking didn't. They just used NES sprites. Old sprites for placeholders and proof of concepts =/= throwback to that game, unless you also think Paper Mario is an SMW successor just because the pitch mockup used SMW sprites.

>The nerd gives you new weapon types
>But because either he isnt that great at it, or Lamorn tech is just that weird, you have a universal ammo for them.
Neat.

Dunno if it would have saved the game, but there really should have been some sort of time travel gimmick when you get all the five keys where you would traverse to past/future and have to explore the areas again with new twists. The game just ends so abruptly with the padded green energy gathering with the mecha parts and the command tower isn't even a proper area

>>727650558
>unless you also think Paper Mario is an SMW successor just because the pitch mockup used SMW sprites.
Different, the BOTW NES build was wholly playable.

>>727631761
capital G gamers love this
shit eat it up

>>727650609
If I had a nickel for every recent Nintendo game that felt bizarrely rushed and disjointed with an abrupt endgame despite 6 years of development, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but I'd start asking questions about why I even have two.
>>727650656
You can also equip a ring in the Oracles games that turns Link's sprite into his Zelda 1 sprite. OMG THAT MEAN ORACLE AM ZELDA 1 LIKE