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So this is it? The entire Switch 2 era will be bombarded with constant doomposting and grifting for every little thing?
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Well Nintendo is charging a premium for mediocre games, so its kind of deserved
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mario if he pissed
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>>727654671
>So this is it? The entire Switch 2 era will be bombarded with constant doomposting and grifting for every little thing?

Yes, even though most of the shit is either false or misinformation.

90 dollar games here in the US. False. All games being game key cards. False. Gamecube NSO controller only working on gamecube games. False. Eula saying that they will brick your system. Literally a non issue every manufacturer of hardware has the exact same thing. Joy con connection pins easily breakable. False. Switch 2 needs a day one update to work. False. Doug bowser saying buy a switch 1 instead of a switch 2. false. Bayonetta 3 voice acting situation where everyone said fuck Nintendo. Turns out she was lying. Mario Kart 8 is outselling world. False. Miyamoto quote ""Games eventually become obsolete when newer versions come out, but films remain forever". false.

I have never seen this for a device or product ever. I think it stems from the fact that xbox is dead so they have nothing to look forward too, Playstation fans have 1 game a year and steam/pc fans cant emulate switch 2. So basically nintendo is the top dawg to go after.
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>>727654671
Everyone that uses this Mario reaction image is always a complete faggot.
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>>727654671
You'll survive.
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>>727656725
Don't forget
>It won't ship with a dock
>Nintendo is trying to kill physical games (they are going out of their way to keep it alive)
>Game key cards can't be transferred to other accounts
>Guarantee'd stick drift because Nintendo didn't use hall effect (if the joycons were the same as S1 we would already be seeing frequent drift issues. Playstation/xbox controllers don't use hall effect either it's niche, and wouldn't even worth since there are magnets)
>Using third parties accessories will brick the system
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>>727654671
Nah, the launch lineup is just weak as shit
Wait till an actual exclusive console seller, Splot 4, the next Mario or whatever
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>>727657616
Let me add them to the list. Also steam deck doesnt even fucking use hall effect and its even worse considering they are attached to the main unit.
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>>727654671
the games suck, so yeah
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>>727654725
whats premium about $70 games?
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>>727659845
*taps the sign*
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>>727660340
ok but theyre the last company to start doing it. Its not a premium if its been the industry standard for almost a decade
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>>727654671
Nintendo obsessed haters are extra autistic now so yes
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>>727654671
Why wouldn't I call out a company for being faggots?
>b-b-b-b-b-but it's okay when Sony does it, right?!
No, faggot, they're all bad. Take your bullshit somewhere else and stop sucking companies' dicks.
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>>727654671
Yeah, it's been like this on the switch 1 as well with fags pretending remasters are going to be less than $60 every time. The nintendo hate has gotten worse due to the fact that people can't pirate switch 2 games
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>>727660408
>it's industry standard
Only for AAA trannies.
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>>727656725
>>727657616
My new favorite is: Metroid map is mute unless you buy the 40 USD amiibo
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>>727654671
it'll fade. been on 4chan for 10 years and the launch of the switch was exactly like this. This time its mostly ironic, trying to get a reaction from people. I just ignore it and talk about games that im interested in, I suggest you do the same
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I'm having more fun on the 2000's Wii.
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>>727654671
They fucked around with Palworld and found out, honestly no one to blame but themselves.
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>>727654671
I think the real issue how poorly the video game industry is doing all around and there's nothing to talk about except Nintendo minding their own business as usual so people are forced to talk about them and naturally they're going to be overly nitpicky because they've always hated Nintendo.
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>>727663660
Maybe if you guys didn't blindly worship a corporation and claim that they're perfect, discussion wouldn't be so bad.
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That's how it's always going to be. Soulless Snoys and PC lards will always envy Nintendo for its history and consistent quality and seek to diminish it at all opportunities. It's just the natural consequence of being the best to ever do it for over 40 years.
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The truth is the quality of their games have seen a rapid gradual and noticeable decline within the last 5 years or so. Take it or leave it, but it's becoming apparent to most people now.
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>>727663701
>Everyone I disagree with are cultists
People like you are the reason why the internet is full of ragebaiters and schizos
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>>727663660
You mean Nintendo is actually systematically destroying video games by turning the business into kike shit, patenting mechanics and suing better projects out of releasing while the other companies are just making shitty games with battlepasses.
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>>727654671
The actual horrible truth is that Nintendo was never good and you're all only now mature enough to no longer be blinded by nostalgia.
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>>727660408
>almost a decade
Video games are like the one form of entertainment that have NOT kept up with inflation etc. SNES games used to cost 50-60. 30 years later and we pretty much the same price.
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>>727664486
Then why are 10 dollar indie games offering more value than 70 dollar AAA titles?
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>>727664615
name one (1)
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>>727664657
Bonus points for it going on sale for 99 cents.
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>>727664838
that's more of a you opinion anon
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>>727665007
I could point to the overwhelmingly positive reception of the game on steam, but I'd rather not rely on popularity metrics to justify my enjoyment of the game. So instead I'll just point out how nice it is that this 10 dollar game has had free DLC for 15 years, while billion dollar companies like Nintendo will lock content behind season passes and microtransactions. Like do you really think Pokemon Z-A needed a 30 dollar DLC? When they could've given it away for free (after it was finished) and still made a killing?
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>>727665254
so it boils down to you and thousands of others not being able to afford the system? got it
maybe try another example?
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>>727663701
>>727664286
I mean not to say Nintendo is perfect. They're suffering from much of the same stuff that plagues the entire industry, but with the success of the Switch 1 and 2, people are exceptionally more critical of their games.
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>>727665285
>not being able to afford the system
Considering I own a PC, which cost me about 700 dollars, I'd say I can indeed afford it. The question is why I would spend more money on a lesser product.

Do you think PSN and Xbox Live are better than Nintendo's online, because they cost more? That's the fallacy you've fallen into.
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>>727665254
>Nintendo will lock content behind season passes and microtransactions
what nintendo game has season passes and microtransactions?
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>>727665404
>lesser product
again, that's your opinion which is fine but not the reality of things
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>>727665405
Again I point to Pokemon Z-A, but for an earlier example I point to BOTW with its season pass.

While BOTW locked its difficulty mode behind a price tag, Terraria literally gave it away for free, and then added like 10 more difficulty modes.
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>>727665595
anon those still aren't MTX. DLC yeah but not MTX. So? Fromsoft also has DLC? Witcher 3? what a faggot. Nintendo has only ever done MTX for like mobile games. BotW is just one example it seems. Oh yeah TotK doesn't have DLC and is at least a complete game. Why can't terraria devs makes Terraria 2? Updates suck anon...
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>>727665007
It’s not just an opinion when it’s backed by consistent content updates, community support, and gameplay depth. Games like Vampire Survivors or Dwarf Fortress offer insane value for under $10, and that’s without needing a second mortgage for a season pass. Meanwhile, Nintendo drops a remastered GBA game and slaps a $60 tag on it like it just reinvented the wheel.
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It's what happens when your console's lineup is slop
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>>727660340
>never pay more than 20 bucks

i mean yeah, if its digital shit.............

Thats what the image was refering to
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>>727663118
wait I thought this was true?
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>>727663643
palworld is kinda shit anon..... Also plays nothing like pokemon. I mean it's cool to see some kind of alternative but that doesn't make it better
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>>727665936
the point is that these big companies really shouldn't be charging for DLC at all. They record constant upward profits every single day, so they have absolutely no excuse to charge more and more.

>>727666062
It's half-true. The ability to listen to music on the bike isn't exclusive to the amiibo, but to unlock it manually you have to 100% beat the game first.
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>>727663793
I might agree if we're talking like sports spinoffs and maybe the big N is kinda playing it safe but I think good quality can still be there.
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>>727654671
Microsoft is leaving the console market and Sony is following in their footsteps, western journos are panicking.
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>>727664286
>and suing better projects

what projects outside of palworld? Also patent seethers are funny. Just IDK work around it?
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>>727664838
I mean terraria is great but lmao. Also I can play this on my switch if I wanted to so wow multiple cakes I guess.

I'm into all sorts of genres not just 2D minecraft clones anon.........
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>>727666139
>the point is that these big companies really shouldn't be charging for DLC at all
Why shouldnt they?
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>>727654671
>grifting
Do you even know what that word means?
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>>727666327
Because the entire selling point of 70-80 dollar games was that it would cover the cost of sales lost to pirates (not a problem with the switch 2, since nobody can pirate their games) AND it would cover the cost of DLC. At least this was the constant talking point of shills.
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>>727654671
Nintendo shill channels like NintendoPrime and Nin10doland are also guilty of grifting you know.
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>>727665960
>consistent content updates, community support, and gameplay depth

holy fuck you can't get more jewish than this except for gameplay depth. Constant updates? Are you fucking kidding me? this is a positive to you? Games never needed fucking updates to be good. Community support? More like, lets make everyone cultists! Community support is so fucking jewish please. I don't want to be in a community.
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>>727657818
The next Mario is going to feel even more like experiencing braindeath than the last one. It may as well be a a phone game.
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>>727666139
>the point is that these big companies really shouldn't be charging for DLC at all.

this I do agree but I feel like Nintendo does it the least half the time.
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>>727666434
>a company giving you more free content is jewish
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>>727666420
influencer culture is like that anon. literally modern day cults. no matter who it is
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>>727666497
Free content is meaningless if the base game was purposely made barebones. This is the reason the recent Mario sports games have sucked ass.
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>>727666497
that content could've just went into a sequel?
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>>727666578
>if the base game was purposely made barebones.

funny since I feel like all games have been that since 2013 and Minecraft and terraria are very guilty of this
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>>727666139
>100% beat the game first.

i want confirmation of this. do you have proof?
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>>727665936
Amiibo are MTX and no amount of tendie crying is ever gonna change that you cock sucking cultist.
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>>727666724
I've been hearing it in the famitsu thread, and they're the ones most likely to defend the game.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/metroid-prime-4-has-optional-music-locked-behind-30-paywall/1100-6536713/

Take it with a grain of salt. Alot of the amiibo features, like the sylux amiibo, seem to have content that can also be unlocked through 100% completion.
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>>727666872
null when you can buy 100 ncf tags for 1$ and program them like the amiboo
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>>727666872
>Amiibo are MTX
only barely. I can always visit someone if they have an amiibo. It's only been bad in SS hd and MSR
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>>727666578
>Free content is meaningless if the base game was purposely made barebones
How do you know it was made barebones? You could possibly argue this of minecraft due to it spending forever in alpha and beta testing, but Terraria never had an early access period IIRC. It released complete, and content updates weren't part of any kickstarter or backer goals. Terraria didn't even do any of that.

>>727666608
Why make a pointless sequel? If the first game is already good, no need to greedily cash in with a second installment.
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>>727667001
>Why make a pointless sequel? If the first game is already good, no need to greedily cash in with a second installment.

it's called building a legacy? Trust?
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>>727667026
And if they botch the sequel, there goes all that trust and legacy. Need I remind you of all the games that died because of the pointless need to make a sequel? Was Starcraft 2 or Supcom 2 really worth ruining their entire series?
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>>727667001
A sequel has the potential to be better or at least enjoyable. By that logic, we shouldn’t have moved on from horses to automobiles for transportation.
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>>727667104
>And if they botch the sequel, there goes all that trust and legacy.

lmao this is so defeatist
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>>727666104
>palworld is kinda sh-ACK
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Yes, correct
The most popular console or handheld of the era always gets endless shitposting, and for most the entire existence /v/, be it in for all of /v/'s existence Nintendo has held at least one of those titles. Hence the endless Nintendo derangement, given /v/ is just slightly older than the psp
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>>727667146
There's plenty of Over Positive reviews games on steam and I hate them lmao. This just proves tribalism and mob mentality
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>>727654725
LET THEM COOK!
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>>727667131
Why needlessly make a sequel, when you can make the original better?
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>>727654671
People have been doomposting about Nintendo for pretty much as long as they've been in the business.
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>>727667373
sony kikes are the fucking worst
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>>727667362
lmao so nostalgia is good now?
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>>727667474
Well, I'd still rather play NEStroid than Prime 4, so....

Hell, I prefer NEStroid to its remake.
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>>727667362
Because a majority of games have limits to some degree of what you can do with it. It’s like wondering why Mega Man 1 wasn’t just updated to be like Mega Man 7 or 11.
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>>727665960
>Games like Vampire Survivors or Dwarf Fortress offer insane value for under $10
so does arcade donkey kong, just play the same fucking game over and over again until a kill screen if the thing you're worried about most is "value"
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>>727667532
Mega Man's kind of a poor example because the series has been needlessly rehashed to oblivion.
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>>727667519
>NEStroid than Prime 4

dude these games are completely different what the fuck?

Also have you played prime 4? It's pretty kino actually just a bit experimental
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>>727654671
I knew from the start that Kirby Air Riders would be the only worthwhile exclusive for the entire year. Mario Kart World too for a bit, but then its dedicated direct destroyed my hype.
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>>727667639
>it's pretty kino
Too much talking, too many cutscenes. Feels like I'm watching a snoy movie. again, why I prefer NEStroid.
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>>727667692
wow so metroid is not allowed to have cutscenes now? It still has plenty of gameplay.
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>>727667760
not when you're talking to ACfag
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>>727667760
Why would I want Metroid to have cutscenes?

>it still has plenty of gameplay
yeah, escort missions and finding korok seeds, er I mean green crystals, in an empty desert for hours.
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>>727656725
>$90 dollar games
$80 dollar games with $10 performance upgrades actually
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>>727667831
the whole game is barely escort missions you fuck. Also the green crystals are satisfying to run into at least. The core MP gameplay is still there
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>>727667894
name one
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>>727667894
last time I checked MK world didn't have a performance DLC anon.............
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>>727667906
They literally shoehorn an escort mission into the final boss. Bro, how can you defend that?
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>>727668029
>he watched
jesus christ
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>>727667312
Or that you are a contrarian cultist with shit taste
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>>727668143
>he says while posting on the panty and stocking general trannycoded thread in /a/
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This has been happening for every Nintendo exclusive since Pokemon Sword and Shield.
Remember how Animal Crossing New Horizons was going to fail because there was only one island allowed?
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>>727664486
>SNES games used to cost 50-60
And those came in expensive cartridges. Later games came in cheaper discs and now everything is digital. There's a reason games kept the same price, and it was not because publishers were being nice, like you're implying.
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>>727668221
That's how you cultists call your nintendo threads? You guys are freaks.
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>>727664838
>comparing the discounted sale price of a 15 year old game compared to a modern game
retard
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>>727669162
Nintendo loves taking repackaged 15 year old games and selling them at 40-50 dollars a piece, like they did with Mario Odyssey. Seems like a fair comparison.
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>>727654671
every era of video games in general will be like this forever
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>>727663203
It's not just kept to 4chan now, though. It's on YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, hell, even Bluesky. On most of those platforms, those lies are monetizable. It's even leaking into normie circles.
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>>727665254
updates arent DLC you massive fucking retard
consider suicide
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>>727669496
How do you get those updates? You download them. and what are you downloading? Content. Ha-cha-cha.
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>>727669684
>Ha-cha-cha.
This nigga 12
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>>727666375
>Because the entire selling point of 70-80 dollar games was that it would cover the cost of sales lost to pirates
No? Where are you pulling this from?
>AND it would cover the cost of DLC. At least this was the constant talking point of shills.
???? Delusional.
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>>727654671
The doomposting will continue until Nintendo fails a new console, simple as it
Nintendo is the first company in forever to win two generations in a row with the Switch 1 and 2.
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>>727666139
>to unlock it manually you have to 100% beat the game first.
So you only get music on the bike after you have no reason to ride the bike anymore.
And somehow this is supposed to make charging 30$ to get it "early" less contemptible?
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>>727669994
if you care that much about it let me redirect you to >>727666929
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>>727669907
Again, this was the selling point shills used to justify higher prices.
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>>727670053
I care more about the fact that Nintendo is actively building problems into their games to sell the solution at a premium. That's more than a little concerning.
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>>727670285
there are no problems, what you unlock with the amibo you can also unlock by completing the game
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>>727670162
I never saw that. Sounds to me like you got 'one guy'd or something.
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>>727670312
But why unlock such a basic feature behind 100% completion? I hate to say this, but even Final Fantasy XV gave you a music jukebox to listen to, and you didn't need to beat the game 100% just to get it. And that game is a POS.
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>>727670409
im not defending it i just use the ntc tags if i care enough
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>>727670447
>I'm not defending it
>>727670312
>There are no problems
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>>727670630
not even the same anon broski i was the one that mentioned the tags the other anon is whatever
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>>727670675
I don't believe you. Even if those are two different anons. the fact that there's anyone remotely cool with the idea of Nintendo putting the BGM behind a paywall or 100% completion is completely asinine.
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>>727669983
>Nintendo is the first company in forever to win two generations in a row
*Twice, in fact
They dominated with NES, and SNES (barely) beat the Genesis
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I think there is also the issue of some peoplr defending Nintendo in everything they as counter culture for the complaint, and I think there's ton of thing to be disappointed with. But it's retarded because the anti nintendo grift is so bad you can't take them seriously. When you have Nintendeen it's hard to take any of them seriously
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>>727671184
Sure, I legit have no idea if Metroid is good or shit because every single post everywhere is either massive doomposting or glazing
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>>727671184
>SOME people defending Nintendo in everything
There are constant daily famitsu threads full of idiot apologists who have never once criticized Nintendo in any way. They're the ones actually arguing that the Prime 4 NPCs are better written than any other NPC in any other game.

When you legit call someone a snoytranny and tell them to kill themselves, all for criticizing Prime 4, you lose any moral highground that you supposedly have.
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>>727664838
I don't like Terraria. I've gotten no value out of it. Argument defeated.
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>>727671364
You hate fun. So your opinion is invalid.
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>>727671364
NTA but i like terraria, argument is valid
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>>727654671
So this is it? The entire Switch 2 era will be bombarded by shit games?
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>>727654671
Just make games $60, not buggy messes, and not Joss Whedon filled dogshit. That's it. That's all they gotta do.
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>>727671393
Crafting games are boring.
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Instead of complaining about gkcs I just went and bought a ps5 pro (I'm not amateur) and picked up the same games from the bargain bin for $5 a piece
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>>727671595
Still better than movieshit like Prime 4 or Xenoblade.
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>>727654671
>nintendo games are charging $70+ and don't even have the common courtesy to send me a princess peach-themed blowup doll, let alone a real princess-peach themed escort
>and the games themselves aren't even that good for the price
Yes, anon. Higher prices, higher expectations.
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>>727671323
Now in some fairness, I'm pretty sure that's one guy and maybe some hanger on goon. Sounds like very schizo behavior, like that guy that calls everyone Eric.

Hell between schizos and bots I doubt anyone out there is really all THAT uppity about video game companies.
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>>727671267
Exactly, this is everywhere like that on internet and it's head scratching, people on both sides take this way too seriously
>>727671323
Those threads are a food example yeah, they're a constant back and forth between glazers that see the game selling as their own victory and defending every single release while calling you a snoy for not sucking off Nintendo, while they're also full of antis spamming misinformation all the time and shitting on every game as if their lifes depends on it calling everyone tendies and manchildren. It's fucking insane
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All I know is that if they fuck up the next next mainline Mario or the rumored OoT remake, that will probably be the final straw that breaks the camel's back for many people. It's now becoming apparent their quality is slipping and the whole amiibo deal situation on Metroid Prime 4 a horrific indicator of things to come. Honestly glad I didn't cave and buy this shitty system yet, Air Riders and Bananza aren't enough to justify a $500 purchase.
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>>727672196
>the rumored OoT remake
Sounds like horseshit
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>>727672196
Two more weeks
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>>727654671
Welcome to modern Gaijin Internet where it's now
>users who just want to get mad over imaginary things and no reason, even going as far as to spread misinfo and lies
>open activism over the price of videogames (just get a job lmao) and even piracy (which fucks over emulation and download websites)
>completely disconnected from reality as it's been demonstrated by how the Switch 2 has been received
>schizos running rampant, as seen here, since the moderation is virtually non-existent

>>727671323
>They're the ones actually arguing that the Prime 4 NPCs are better written than any other NPC in any other game.
I've seen the recent threads and no one said that, just stating that the fed allies are nowhere bad as the Internet schizos have portrayed them, which I can fully agree. At worst, the engie tends to spoil where you're supposed to go when you're roaming around the hub for a dozen of minutes (he should only do that if you directly call him on the radio when pausing the game) but he hardly deserves the "hate" otherwise. Were the NPCs necessary? No. But it takes a certain kind of autism to become this frenzy over them.
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Yeah and?
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Donky Kong bananza is pretty cool
MKW doesn't really appeal to me because of the open world and imo MK8 was the peak of kart games
I bought a switch 2 because of Air Riders and sakurai should make the next SSB 3D
Metriod prime looks like it has incredible atmosphere and art direction that's completely intruded on by the terrible characters and story telling
The Switch 2 hardware itself feels like a nice refinement over the original with the only issue being a somewhat blurry screen, joycons are a massive improvement experience wise over the og (never had le drift tho)

This is a normal, nuanced take on the switch 2 and Nintendo as a whole rn
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>>727662864
>indies are the whole industry now
that vidya Overton window keeps changing every day, I see
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>>727663701
are you dense? nintendo fans are literally the first one calling out Nintendo's bullshit. Did you miss the 3DS ambassador shit, Switch Online "netflix-style" games, the Wii U, Treehouse censorship, etc?
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>>727654671
doomposting every game is more fun than playing them, admit it!
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>>727677729
he's not old enough
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>>727666420
lmao that guy thinks botw is the best zelda game ever and loves the item durability
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>>727663793
imagine being this delusional
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>>727654671
>nintenigger not so smug after being subjected to what he's been doing for decades
shazam won lmao
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>>727669223
>Odyssey
laugh at this retard
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Its because almost every switch game has been shit to mid while being premium price to boot. The reason the other two get less hate is because they are less fans / ex fans. The sony and xbox people checked out a long time ago
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>>727673997
>(which fucks over emulation and download websites)
speaking of this, why did everyone go around and tell everyone about piracy? Isn't this extremely dumb to make it even more popular instead of staying under the radar?
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It's so funny that people bitch about Nintendo yet they'll always keep playing their games regardless, even if it's through an emulator.
In fact I think that's where at least part of this hate is coming from, PCfags mad that there wasn't a Day 1 Switch 2 emulator and they won't be able to play their games anymore soon.
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>>727666221
Fan projects that tend to be more worth playing than their stuff like M2R.

Working around patented mechanics is easy now but they're setting a trend other companies will jump on board and it's going to get a lot more gay and lame.
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>>727678185
Too many faggots make money off of clickbait now. Doesn't matter how low key you try and keep an emulation community, some pajeet is going to post it on youtube or twitter so they can monetize the attention
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>>727663643
Palworld fans try not to mention Palworld in completely irrelevant scenarios challenge
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>>727678185
Some people have been extremely dumb into believing that making emulation and piracy of Nintendo games known to the public was a way to sabotage Nintendo's success or bankrupt it. Except the unlicensed emulation scene and pirate websites were the sole things being actually sabotaged thanks to Nintendo haters.
>>727678218
>but they're setting a trend other companies will jump on board and it's going to get a lot more gay and lame.
Are you aware that vidya patents have been a thing in the Japanese industry since the 80's arcade days, and plenty of companies have gotten into bitchslap lawsuits? Nintendo only went through two patent lawsuits so far. But then again, you're likely a moron who believe patents act like copyrights.
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>$80
you dont get a pass when charging 20% of my rent
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>>727667146
Yeah because metacritic, a site where you don't even need to own the games to give a shitty opinion on has any fucking weight, fuck off and die faggot.
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>>727654671
Yes, which keeps people talking about it endlessly (both positive and negative), which increases its sales.
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>>727671627
wikishit is garbage as well ACtrans
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>>727669994
>>727670829
It's not even "the BGM" the desert still has no BGM. the Amiibo just lets you play tracks from elsewhere in the game over the radio. tracks that are shit and wont really suit the area.
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>>727654671
I can see /v/intendoGAF is taking criticism of Prime 4 well
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>>727654671
shitendo is funner to shit on because the fans act like autistic trannies. go make a thread of that ugly snoy samurai game with the troon, and it'll die in 10 posts. make sad mario.jpeg and some nintendo adult discord member will call you 10 different bogeymen
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>>727682459
The church of nintendo won't take kindly to these antisemitic comments
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when is switch 2 having more games, i only have 2...
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>>727684241
That's why it's called the Switch 2!
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Yes, and rightfully so
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>>727656725
>90 dollar games here in the US. False
DK Bananza was released for $70 and received DLC a little over a month later for $20, with content comparable to what Mario Odyssey got for free. So we can say that $90 games are a reality for Switch 2 consumers, unless they decide to give up updates that were previously free.

>All games being game key cards. False.
That was never said, it was known from the beggining that some Nintendo games would be on the cards. As for third-party games, well, a conservative estimate given the current situation is that at least 85% of them will be on game key cards. If you consider that, on Switch 1, games published by Nintendo are only 5% of the library, then you have a reality where the vast majority of Switch 2 games will not be on the cards you buy.

>Eula saying that they will brick your system. Literally a non issue every manufacturer of hardware has the exact same thing.
So it's true.

Oh, and you forgot about the screens. Some less retarded players immediately noticed that it was extremely slow, and tests showed that it's not just slow, but 50% slower than the Switch 1 screen, which makes for an extremely poor experience in handheld mode (pic related).
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>>727654671
yes
fuck you
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>>727672196
The MKW bundle has been $450 for a few days now. Air Riders is too niche to be a system seller though.
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>>727685531
Furthermore, none of these complaints are unjustified.

A decent screen, or even an OLED screen, would objectively make the Switch 2 a MUCH better device for gaming.

The prices that the industry sets for games are arbitrary. Nintendo is trying to change consumer culture by getting them used to games that cost between $70 and $90. There is no reason for this. Zelda BOTW made more profit than ALL Zeldas combined, and that would still be true even if the game cost $30. Nintendo just wants to tame its consumers, and since it is one of the big players, its efforts are capable of changing the entire culture of the industry, so opposing expensive games is the duty of every consumer.

Game Key Cards will stop working as soon as Nintendo decides. And no, Nintendo will not let you download your games indefinitely; it has already made it clear that even the download of old games will cease when they decide (pic related).

Etc.
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>>727686231
The part where you needed to download an update just to play the Switch 2 before the intended date should show that there is absolutely an intended "EoS" date as well. Surprised people don't talk about that more. Even if you had game cards that worked permanently, "THAT" should be insanely worrying.
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>>727686231
The craziest part of BotW for me is that they rereleased it for the Switch 2 for $70 and then didn't even include the DLC with it. Like what the fuck, it's a Wii U game.

Nintendo is allergic to giving people a decent deal on older titles. BotW should be $50 with all the DLC for the new version like other games were doing for their next gen ports.
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>>727678217
False flagging again?
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>>727686231
>Game Key Cards will stop working as soon as Nintendo decides. And no, Nintendo will not let you download your games indefinitely; it has already made it clear that even the download of old games will cease when they decide (pic related).
It's pure fearmongering on your part though. And besides, you forgot the important that the old Nintendo consoles didn't have a proper account system so your console may likely break before you worry about that part.

You DO own your digital games you've purchased on the Switch Eshop (just like on Steam) and you will be able to re-download them for many years to come.
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>>727685531
>DK Bananza was released for $70 and received DLC a little over a month later for $20, with content comparable to what Mario Odyssey got for free. So we can say that $90 games are a reality for Switch 2 consumers, unless they decide to give up updates that were previously free.
Then we can say that $90 games aren't anything new, as everyone else has been doing it for at least a decade now.
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>>727686694
Yes, but offering a game for $50 will sabotage Nintendo's efforts to make consumers think that $70-80-90 are fair prices.
Nintendo would probably profit more from Zelda BOTW on Switch 2 by selling it for $50 + free DLC, but that's not important in the long run. The game has already made enough money, and now it will serve Nintendo's Machiavellian plans to create a new normal in consumers' minds.
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>>727682459
>wastes his time baiting console warriors instead of playing games
what no money and no emulation does to a mf
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That's what you get when the site is full of poorfag brown fags
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>>727671048
Oh right.
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>>727685531
>So we can say that $90 games are a reality for Switch 2 consumers

Why are you moving the goalpost and including optional dlc to make your argument look legitimate? lmao are people this mentally ill?
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im not categorically opposed to nintendo but i haven't liked the direction theyve taken since botw but there's some schizo who will call me eric if i talk about it.

nintendo seems to be chasing low effort design philosophies that overly tutorialize and talk incessantly. they seem to be becoming more aggressive in their monetization and are following aaa blue prints for their new games. pikmin 4 and it's small village of rainbow diverse corporate approved cast that never shut up and puppy guard resources ensuring you have to engage with their dumbass dialog, zelda turning into banjo kazooie nuts n bolts, mario wonder having no challenge whatsoever, echoes of wisdom having more textboxes than final fantasy 9, etc etc. theyre making shitty movies and pushing out games meant to appeal to people who either refuse or cant be trusted to engage with any kind of game play that isnt crafting in a menu, maahing a button to bypas challenges, or scrolling through reams of dialog. metroid prime 4 has basically destroyes my confidence that they can make anything good anymore. i havent got a switch 2 yet, ive got my switch 1 and a midrange pc and it looks like im gonna stay that way for the forseeable future.
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>>727688761
I already explained why the Bananza DLC isn't normal. It's very different from the Zelda BOTW DLC, which added a different way to play the ENTIRE game, as well as a variety of items, special dungeons, etc.
The Bananza DLC is compatible with the free updates for Mario Odyssey.
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>>727654671
Maybe they should make a good game first. Just once please
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>>727664486
>base game: $60
>Day 1 dlc that was cut from the main game: $25
>Low effort DLCs that reflect 1 one one hundredth the content of the base game sold for $15-35 each
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>>727654671
Until Nintendo gets their fucking shit together and their rabid bootlickers stop being pants on head retarded, yes.
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>>727689498
BotW's dlc was some serious bullshit too. Day 1 season pass rolled out by opening with a single ad in the form of a shirt. Hard mode should never be a dlc, and on top of that hard mode was lazy trash that actively just made the game worse by exacerbating flaws. The horse whistle was also some bullshit that should've been in the base game. And what remains didn't justify $20.
Nintendo's been on a steady decline for a good long while.
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>>727690297
That's going to take a while. Nintendo banked hard on COVID with Animal Crossing, so they have a few dozen million new neurotic nutcases loyal to them for making their lockdown comfort game.
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>le doomposting
>le grifters
>le ragebait
Nintendo executives won't have sex with you. Simping for a big corporation is pathetic.
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>>727690794
Hating vidya corporations is about as bad if not worse, you know. And the ragebait and grifting are indeed real.
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>>727690978
>b-bro you can't just hate on big game corporations!!!
Oh boy. Give me one reason.
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>>727691102
The simple fact that it's possible to neither "love" and "hate" game companies if you aren't this autistic. And there's more to life than videogames.
I do laugh at people making a lot of arguments about the price of videogames for instance, when 20€ and 70€ are both cheap prices for something that easily provide dozens upon dozens of hour of entertainment (if not hundreds). Meanwhile, a single night out with friends can easily reach 40€ and above for transient things like food and gas
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>>727691102
Because dedicating your life to something that you hate is useless and will damages your soul
What you should do instead is dedicating your life to what you love and cherish
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>>727654671
Literally half of the switch's lifespan was people begging for a more powerful switch. So we get one it was predictably underpowered and overpriced again. Since the wait for the switch 2 was so long and the rumors so constant about will they won't finally release it. Fatigue set in. We know the switch 2 launch was delayed multiple times, they've never publicly acknowledged it but there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest this is indeed true. We wrongfully assumed they delayed it to have stronger first year line up. Their first year line up is bad. There is no other way to put it, straight up it is bad. We waited years and got basically nothing for it, yeah I'm pissed.
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>>727654671
>constant doomposting and grifting
Yep. Doomposting by anons and grifting by Nintendo.
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>>727691501
>>727691694
>literally the equivalent of "don't think, don't have standards, never hold corporations accountable, never have any basic expectations - just consoom!!!"
Reddit is that way.
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>>727692293
>never hold corporations accountable
>he thinks bitching about corpos in social media actually do something
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>>727692293
Where does my post said about mindlessly consuming products?
See? This is the funny thing about autists like you, you're incapable of thinking things that aren't deep into extremes. No in-between or moderation.
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>>727693063
The part where me being critical towards Nintendo clearly upsets you. You pay for ROMs, don't you.
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>>727677729
>Did you miss the 3DS ambassador shit, Switch Online "netflix-style" games, the Wii U, Treehouse censorship, etc?
And now you guys defend every single thing they do, gloat about sales and metacritic scores, and will do anything to "own the snoys". So yeah, I see how that turned out. Infact, going by the famitsu thread, you guys are now defending all of those things that you supposedly used to hate.
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>>727677729
>nintendo fans are literally the first one calling out Nintendo's bullshit
No, tendies are the ones always jumping in to shut it all down and act all whiny until everyone gets too annoyed to continue.
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Remember Anons, it's never worth engaging with sealiontroon because he will always argue in bad faith and distort your arguments into whatever fits him best or make up strawmen (and then when he can't do that he will ignore what you said and then samefag).
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>>727666104
>Also plays nothing like pokemon
Then why is Nintendo suing them?
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>>727654671
It will until they reveal the next zelda, which will be a return to ocarina type gameplay, and FF7 remake type graphics etc...
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>>727694341
>console warring child accuses others of arguing in bad faith and using strawmen
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>>727666929
>>727666936
>only barely
>yes, but no
Lmfao
You fucking cultists never fail to amuse with how much Nintendick you’re willing to suck.
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>>727694441
>console warring child
That's a strawman :)
Still waiting on your AC6 playtime by the way.
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>>727694550
Don't forget, this is the same fanbase that called sony and microsoft a "bunch of greedy jews" for charging to use online. But now when Nintendo does it, suddenly it's only poorfags who hate paying a subscription. Really pushing the overton window there.

>>727694603
Then you'll keep waiting, because you're a console warring child who's not acting in good faith. ;)
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>>727693980
It’s okay when Nintendo does it is the most holy of mantras in their religion. The famitsu threads are like their weekly church gathering. Of course they’ll repeat the mantra during the sermons.
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>>727682459
>go make a thread of that ugly snoy samurai game with the troon, and it'll die in 10 posts
They always hit bump limit...
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>>727694685
One of my favorite things to do is calling out their hypocrisy. You can try it out for yourself.

>fanboys claim to be idorts who don't just worship Nintendo games
>claim that a non-nintendo game is GOTY material over a Nintendo game
>watch the ensuring shitstorm

These liars will claim to love multiplats like Pizza Tower, but if you claim that it was 2023 GOTY, over Zelda and Mario, then you're immediately branded an evil snoy.
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>>727694683
I know I'm gonna keep waiting because you never played it and have nothing to show ;)
As to why you're a faggot arguing in bad faith and using strawmen, and why people should avoid engaging with you seriously, refer to pic related.
You're >>725379394, by the way.
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>>727694683
You are an FBI agent.
I love Myles MacKenzie.
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>>727689498
Emerald Rush is much more substantial than the balloon chase mode in Odyssey. Still shouldn't have been more than $10 at most, but I've been enjoying it quite a bit. Really should have been in the base game.
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>>727694923
>he's STILL angry that I said Splatoon would be made better with dedicated servers and a custom map making scene
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>>727695119
>he's STILL making up strawmen
;)
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>>727695182
>it's a strawman to say that you prefer an online game with more features, as opposed to a locked down console game
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>>727654671
Not around for the switch 1?
People still cry about botw and totk despite being the best selling zelda games by a landslide.
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>>727695283
see >>727695182 ;)
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>>727656725
>every criticism directed toward my favorite toy? False
The tendie delusion at work.
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>>727695445
At this point they're suffering from arrested development. For crying out loud, they call me a snoy tranny because I think Team Fortress 2 was improved by dedicated servers and custom map making. Apparently you shouldn't be allowed to have these things in an online game because nintendo doesn't approve of them.
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Am I the only femanon around here who hasn't bought a Switch 2 yet?
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My favourite recent thing about tendies is them defending nintendo trying to charge 30 dollars for OVERWORLD MUSIC in Metroid because oooh you can unlock it by beating the game so it's fine also it's totally like all the unlocks from older games so you're a zoomer for complaining about it
>implying anyone will beat the game and go "wooow this was so good in fact so good that I will play it again immediately"
>implying older games having fun unlocks like skins, OP weapons, new modes or different endings is the same as locking a basic feature behind a paywall/time gate
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>>727654671
Do you expect anything else from this place?
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>>727696217
It's gacha logic. Make something so obnoxious that you incentivize buying DLC or MTX to make it go away, and then hide behind "oooh but you can technically unlock it ;)))))"

Funny, that's why they hated Team Fortress 2 so much.even though you can acquire almost everything without paying a penny, it's still le bad because it's not nintendo.
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>ACtrans
>Paulinefaggot
>'ric
The gangs all here
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>>727696356
I'm actually playing TF2 right now :^)
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>>727696217
>different endings is the same as locking a basic feature behind a paywall/time gate

What you unlock the ability to replace the environmental track the desert naturally has with any bgm from the game. I'd love to do that in Breath of the Wild and ToTK (heck, it goes back to the islands in Wind Waker, the generic ones just had an environmental theme, with only the most important ones having real bgms) but it's not even an option.
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>>727696489
>I'm playing a game that I myself called "tranny shit" for not being a Nintendo game
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>>727696559
view >>727695182 ;)
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splatoon raiders will save the console
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>>727654671
If Nintendo actually bothered to make good games and a consumer friendly console, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. You people are genuinely braindead for not being able to discern this.
Don Mattrick should seek the NoA President position because you fucking retards have the inability to have any semblance of pattern recognition. He would thrive in that position screwing you insane nostalgia addicts over.
You people collectively gaslit yourselves into believing you're in the right when you defend this god awful industry-destroying company that's defecating all over Iwata's legacy. You are sick in the head and you people need intervention.
Repeat after me: Genuine criticism is NOT rage bait.
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>>727654671
I was looking forward to it but NoA had to fuck it up going the Sony way so they lost my support.
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>>727689498
>The Bananza DLC is compatible with the free updates for Mario Odyssey.
not really
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>>727697109
Now you've done it. You're about to get the Iwata Derangement Syndrome anons on your ass.



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