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Balance TF2 with one update
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delete sniper
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>>727662890
>remove vacc and short circuit
fundementally shit weapons that needs to be killed, thats all, otherwise game is fine
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>>727662928
pyro becomes virtually unbeatable
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it always bothered me how difficult it is to airblast rockets. getting a kill with that is probably one of the hardest things in tf2 for me.
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>>727663024
an acceptable loss
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i would shut down the servers
you don't have to keep doing the same shit you did when you were 12 years old
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>>727662890
>soldier
Has counterplay

>sniper
Has no counterplay.
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>>727663024
>lower DPS than a scattergun
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>>727663030
>it always bothered me how difficult it is to airblast rockets
How much bigger does it need to be?
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>>727663024
what? lmao
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>>727663307
Hon hon, I am le Frenchman!
I am le best class in le game!
I am better than le demoman and le medeek combined!
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>>727663024
Pyro dies to any hitscan, including a spy with a revolver
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>>727663447
Especially spy with a revolver
That thing has an absurd effective range
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Delete all the hats
Or give everyone every hat
Whichever makes the biggest hat fags most angry
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>>727663307
that's ridiculous. several weapons in the game are designed to rape snipers forcing him into subpar loadouts. a mediocre sniper is the worst class in the game requiring no particular counterplay. soldier himself hardcounter sniper with aerial bombardment and this play in fact rapes all classes 1v1
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>>727662890
TF2 is not a numbers game faggot. Yes soldier can have all these upsides and yes sniper can still be more oppressive with the right map and a really good player. Post hours or GTFO
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>>727663707
>300 hour player speaking
Tell me more.
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>>727662890
Snipers are only op because of aimbot hackers. Real players will miss shots sometimes or hit body shots or not have enough charge to kill someone if they click a head too early.
Undetectable aimbot has basically made fps go to shit for 10 years
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Wasn't there supposed to be an mvm thing at some point?
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Kill all comp fags
You dont play TF2 for "Balance"
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>>727662890
Sniper fundamentally doesn't belong in TF2 because he's playing a different video game than all the other characters with his infinite range hitscan. They should have just had him be huntsman only and MAYBE The Classic cuz it's the only rifle that's even remotely balanced.
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Only time sniper is broken is only in Payload maps. Most of the times, snipers will getfree coverage from engineers and pyros in this game mode which make it extremely difficult to flank him through other means rather than pray that you have some sweaty snipers in your team to counter.
this is TRVTH
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I'm imminently 30 years old, never have had sex, am unemployed, have no friends, and am here to explain why Sniper is retarded in TF2 for the 1000th time. (Not a faleflag or troll. This is reality)
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>>727662890
all classes can equip a secondary weapon to their primary slot as long as it's not the same weapon as what's currently in their secondary slot.
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>Balance TF2 with one update
stickybomb launcher +0.2 arm time
stickybomb launcher -50% damage
stickybomb launcher explosion radius expanded to the size of upward's payload explosion
loch n load changed to hitscan
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>>727662890
add a glare for when the sniper is scoped in
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>>727663386
>Airblast tied to latencies and source fuckery instead Rockets just leave damaging area
>Always the one guessing the shot instead initiating it
>Flamethrowers have limited range instead infinity that rockets had
>Airblast leave no damage, meanwhile explosive radius does
>Soldier can bail out while Pyro can't
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>>727664309
second this. average trolldier will always target snipers. that alone is hard counter to these pests.
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>>727664559
Keep in mind that splash damage with the rocket launcher outside of kritz does like 2 damage.
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>>727662890
>Balance 4chan with one update
Wojakshit and frogposting is now an instant 3 day ban.
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engineer fucks up the game more.
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>>727663386
Didn't this get changed to the actual cone it was supposed to be in the x64 update?
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>>727662890
Okay here's my half-baked ideas:
>Scorch Shot flares now always bounce before exploding even when they strike a surface instead of a player. Actually, make them ricochet instead so you can do cool trickshots
>The Gas Passer now causes doused enemies to take mini-crits from all fire damage, including afterburn, so the Pyro who threw it can actually benefit somewhat
>Pyro can now airblast jump because it would be fun. Similar distance to the FaN self-knockback
>Sniper Rifles now have tracer rounds, reduced max ammo (let's say 15), and have inverse damage falloff against nearby targets so that even good or hacking Snipers are actually weak at close range and can't oneshot people who manage to get close. The Classic is exempt from that last change
>Sandman ball now deals knockback based on distance traveled instead of slowing or stunning
>Increase the arm time on stickies to encourage actually using them as traps instead of spamming
>Vaccinator gets increased passive damage reduction on the heal target, but significantly reduced healing output
>Heavily nerf the Crusader's Crossbow max ammo (from 38 down to maybe 15ish?) so that it's actually possible to run out of shots if you aren't careful. Also remove the passive reloading
>Instead of increasing all damage taken while active, the Buffalo Steak Sandvich now reduces ranged damage taken but increases melee damage, like a weaker version of the Fists of Steel effect, so that enemies are encouraged to try and melee duel you
Thoughts?
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>>727662890
>-patch notes-
>-All shartjak trannies detected via dilator signal will be automatically VAC banned
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>>727662890
The problem isn't sniper, the problem is everybody on the team hoping that somebody else on the team will deal with him, and that leads to nobody dealing with him.
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>>727662890
Game has honestly been ruined for about 10 years. There's no saving it now.
Bring on TF3.
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>>727664104
Extremely based.
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>>727665741
Only for player airblast detection. Projectiles still use the box.
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>>727663707
You don't know what a hard counter is.
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Reduce crit damage by 20%
Reduce rocket/stickybomb splash range by 20%
Revert the nerfs to the Ambassador and Righteous Bison
500% damage increase on Heavies crouching while holding a food item for more than 2 seconds
Nerf Sniper's damage with any weapon by 99% but give him a sidegrade that returns it to normal in the form of a large pulsating dildo hat with I'M A FAGGOT :3 written on it + Sniper says 'Trans rights are human rights!' after every kill
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2fort is better
sageruu
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>>727664413
>2 stickies on demo
>pistol critacola scout
>jarate smg sniper
>scorch shot flare gun pyro
>TWO MEDIGUNS
fucking retard
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why are tf2fags so obsessed with this weird version of the game inside their empty heads and endlessly speculating retarded changes for years on end instead of moving on? almost none of you actually like the game as is and valve is never giving you what you want.
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>>727672213
>mfw popping Uber and then all four Vacc charges on my target
>we still die because the enemy team is all banner+whip Soldiers
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>>727662928
fpbp
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>>727672393
Why do virgins enter threads for games they never liked and demand the population abide by their worldview?
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>>727672393
>why do [fans of game] discuss [things that would slightly alter gameplay for game]
this is common in literally every popular game
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>>727662890
>which you have to hit first either through a careful straight hit or half damage ground hit
>second slowest class
>giving you this one but you need to be really good to consistently make this work. opposing team with brains will just keep you in the sky or knocked back.
>only in confined spaces. i could get more kills with a crit fueled Scout or Demo
>offensively yes because they are the designated push class, defensively rather Heavy or Demo
>not anymore versatile than other classes
>only low skill floor because of the spread damage which you still need to hit.
>airblast alone would like to talk to you
>it does if you want to do damage
>decent sentry buster
>slow speed, weapon velocity and big head

sorry fags. soldier is balanced.
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Wowwwww another f2p-fag TF2 thread filled with the worst fucking opinions peddled by eceleb trash.
Here, let me contribute to this thread by adding more dogshit zoomer takes:
>remove crits
>fix matchmaking (no I will NEVER use server browser)
>remove The Scorch Shot

>>727664545
So far this is the ONLY suggestion I've ever seen in tftranny threads which sounds fair and balanced and would like to see in-game.
Gives a chance for targets to take evasive actions and adds a little bit more challenge for pro-tier Snipers.
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>>727662890
>You can't have both because i said so
Nah
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>>727663024
pyro is literally the least powerful character in the game if you can aim
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>>727662928
this
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Soldier is a pretty strong class but it's silly to complain about him when demo exists who's objectively even stronger
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>>727674905
Well of course he's stronger, he takes the most skill to use
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I only play solo against bots and it seems pretts balanced
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>>727663024
The things people say on this board, lmao
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>>727663307
The average sniper player can be owned easily by flanking him or getting into melee range



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