Just finished Prime 4 and i feel suicidal. Another IP bites the dust.
it's kino
>>727664084Yeah, with how baldy it's being received universally, it probably is the end of the franchise. I'm glad i was never a fan of it, but i'm sorry for you guys.
>>727664084go wokego broke
>>727664229>Yeah, with how baldy it's being received universally
Breath of the Wild was Nintendo's equivalent to Sony's The Last of Us. Its influence is going to ruin many Nintendo IPs within the next 2-5 years.That and Nintendo's obsession with becoming the next Disney (down to live-action adaptations and bastardizing their stories with marvelized humor and dialogue) isn't going to do them any favors in the long term, either. Really exposes how out-of-touch their current leadership is.
>>727664084new suit looks like absolute shit
>>727664481What retarded YouTubers are you watching?
>>727664523which one motorbike chest samus or onion suit samus
>>727664084what even happens in the story? I played for nearly 4 hours and the only thing happening was the holograms asking you to save them from...something
I wonder what it's like at retro right now. I wonder how they're taking the reception.
Dusty old bones full of green dust
>metroid series is known for and got big off its exploration >not a single metroid that focuses on exploration released after 2004what causes this?
>>727664084all tendie games are for ADHD kids
>>727664676They're probably well aware of the situation considering it took a million years to develop.
>>727664229>prime bombs>Nintendo strong arms and fixes mercury steam's company issues and releases another jot high budget but we'll received 2d game that sells wellIt's THAT easy.
>>727664676They are already working on Metroid Prime 5. I doubt they care too much especially when all the bad shit in the game was because of Nintendo retardation. I guarantee nobody in Texas had the brilliant idea to put a Utah desert and motorcycle factory in Metroid.
>>727664749>we can compete with yt>we wir make our own halo! basically what >>727664481said, the new leadership is completely out of touch and is trying to cater to a wider audience in the wrong way. The world will never recover once boomers are completely gone from the creative process and the decision making. It's full Gen-X slop like Kojima and Rick and Morty time.Also investors, investors don't want a bounty hounter game that's focused on exploration and isolation. They want pogchamp moments, user press a button? Something pogchamp has to happen, pogchamp and button finally together.
>>727664626yesdread was so much better
>>727664871>They are already working on Metroid Prime 5.Why do you say that? Because the game ends in a cliffhanger? Prime 3 ends with Sylux trailing after Samus. Prime 4 didn't start development until close to 10 years later.
>>727664084I'm just thankful the trailers prepared me for this disappointment, if i went into this blind this shit would break my heart
>>727664626motorbike suit looks right craponion suit looks like dogshitwhy did they attempt another white suit when the Light Suit exists>inb4 bisexual lighting
>>727664749A game where you not just can get lost but it being something that's encouraged is completely opposite to everything modern Nintendo. Nothing terrified them more than a player possibly being uncertain what to do next for more than 3 minutes.
>>727664871>all the bad shit in the game was because of Nintendo retardationRetro have never been able to deliver a single good game without Nintendo's involvement. The one time they got left to their own devices they decided to make a singing rpg for preschoolers.
Keratos took me fucking forever, I didn't die but I couldn't get it to expose its weak spot
>>727665059did anyone else know in their heart that the jig was up as soon as they saw the bike? then me and my brother were watching a review right after the miles reveal and as soon as miles went "sooooo where are we goin'? you might wanna check your map" we both just howled with laughter and wrote the whole thing off.the rest has just been like watching a train wreck in real time.
>>727665107>bisexual lightingMeds
>>727665329did anyone else know in their heart that the jig was up as soon as they saw the bike?YesThe second trailer, the psychic powers one didn't spire much confidence either, just looked like the most basic bitch puzzle solving possible, but i let that one slide 'cause it's kinda hard to sell someone on puzzles just by a trailer alone and it was the first area still so fine, but then the fucking BIke trailer dropped and immediatly i was hit by Arkham Knight flashbacks, you don't put a vehicle in a series that doesn't need it to solve some problem you do it to create problems, then by the time Miles showed up i was already kinda numb to it all, just felt like the natural progression of thingsWell, at least the music is really good so there's that to salvage, i'll look into making a Metroid Dread mod with music from this game so it'll at least serve me a purpose
>>727665507its a real phenomenon, it even has its own wiki page
prime suits have almost always sucked ass don't @ me
everything is fine about it except the shitty tacked-on open world, which actively drags the game down
>>727664676the game has no passion behind it everything was engineered to satisfy the goals of investors wanting to chase the larger audience. I don't think a single dev at retro is having faith for it. But you gotta do what your boss is asking you to do! I hate how big the video game industry became.Play prime 1 of you haven't you RETARDS.
>>727665507>>727665591https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexual_lighting
>>727665690See that's the kind of retard I'm speaking of. Bet he never played prime, and if he did his brain must be damaged beyond salvation if he can't figure out what's deeply wrong with prime 4.
>>727665507>he doesn't know
>>727665628Phazon Suit was kinoDark and Light suits were gigakino
>>7276640843D Metroid has always been dogshit.
>>727665840phazon is a recolordark and light are guyver faggotry
>>727664284i'm seeing this rhetoric already, but the game's problems have fuck all to do with thatthe issue is that it was clearly rebooted a few times during development, and it has a bunch of ill fitting elements from whatever was flavor-of-the-year in that given year of development hell
>>727665937cope + no taste + homo + L + ratio
>>727665896Prime uno gave us hope
>>727666084>baby's first fpsGrow up.
>>727666142Metroid Prime came out in 2009, retard. If he played it immediately after exiting the womb he would be 16 years old.
>>727666059yeah that's what I thought, faggot
>>727666307stop replying to me I'm not going to kiss you
This game is one of the biggest hack jobs I've seen in a long time. It's unbelievable how disjointed it feels.
It's fun______
>>727666945no it isn't. they barely even put enemies into some of the areas for god's sake
>>727664612Then explain Mario Kart World because it sure lines up with what anon said as well.
>>727666945no it's fucking not, it falls apart after the keys
>>727666945Help me understand
Nintendo is a hasbeen company who let quality control go through the floor ever since they saw how Shitfreak kept making billions off of lazy half-assed Poke games. Tendies allowed this happen.
>>727667158wow it gets even worse? I gave up in the ice area
>>727667158bleak. I've been watching my friend stream the game and he's almost done with the keys. I feel like I got ripped off and I didn't even buy it.
>>727664931if BotW was the standard, there'd be a lot more exploration in dread/prime 4
>>727667387 the last "biome", the bike/crystal collecting, the mech parts and the last fight are so bad that i hope it kills metroid.
>>727667501it was a good run
At least we have prime 1-3, with PC fps controls on dolphin. I'm just going to forget this reddit game exists
>>727666282>Metroid Prime came out in 2009??? it came out in 2002
>>727664871>motorcycle factoryWell to be fair, the actual factory was kino. It's just the motorcycle that sucks.
>>727667869I stopped buying Nintendo consoles after the Wii-U so anything Switch+ doesn't exist to me anyway
>>727664229Metroid has survived several 'bombs' now (the series as a whole has never performed well; Other M; Federation Force, and now this). I'm sure it will bounce back eventually. It just sucks this took so long to happen. It'll probably be another six to ten years.
>>727668186I still can't believe they made you do fucking license tests. what the fuck were these niggers thinking
Is it true the game is filled with yonic symbolism?
>>727668323yes there's vaginas everywhere you can blame her
You know, I expected the desert to be boring and shitty based on the trailers, but the way they force you to make multiple passes through it it's like they're fucking trolling you. When I had to go back to miles mcfaggot to install the fire chip, I drove in a straight line and encountered NOTHING. That's when I knew the game was cooked. And now I found out you HAVE to grind the "green cystals" to access the final area? Oh my fucking god dude what is going on with this garbage?
>>727668323>>727668484>game that fell victim to constant desgn reboots and features too many gimmicks and a useless open world hub>retards who havent even played it just repeat mantras about SJWs and woke>publisher reads this shit and doesn't understand the real cause of the game's failure>more games faili hate you
>>727666282Effective. You'll probably get a few dummies with this one.
>>727668525the desert wasn't even kino maliciously designed to waste your time like Magmoor Cavernsjust boring ahh sand not even anything to look at. Don't get me started on the Akita slide or wheelie animations
>>727668715>boring ahh>Akita slideWhat's with all the baiting going on in this thread?
>>727668525>what is going on with this garbage?Line must go up. Nintendo wants more money, and will do/order their peons to do whatever they feel will make them more money. And they won't spend more than the bare minimum to make the games good, because you've already proven you'll buy them if they're not.
>>727668693nigga not a single YouTube review or video essay I've seen since release forgets to mention the retarded sand valley or retarded millenialese sidekicks kys
>>727668807I pirated this shit thank god. I'd be fucking livid if I paid money for this
I was so disgusted after finishing Prime 4 I booted up Hunters since I never finished it. Maybe I was a dumb kid but this is so much better than I remember. Maybe Prime 4 is just so bad in comparison, somehow. At least the average room in Hunters has more than 2 doors.
>>727664084You could genuinely cut the desert bike shit out of the game and the entire experience would improve a hundredfold. It's unreal just how fucking ass that entire aspect of the game ruins everything.
>>727668928I dunno I tried the single player of Hunters not too long ago and it fucking bored me to tears. I would still rate it lower than Prime 4
>>727665329Pretty much. After the remaster of 1 came out and was ok I figured they'd just play it safe and make one by the numbers, but when they showed that stiff ugly bike stuff it was over. Still managed to get worse, though.
>>727668484I don't really think it's good or bad. I just think it's interesting that the game has so much yonic iconography.
>>727665628prime 1's version of the gravity suit is nice
>>727668809Godllenial sidekicks to you brownie.
>>727665329I was coping to myself that the normal parts would still be good because they must have learned a lot doing Prime 1 remastered.But I was wrong, they learned nothing except for some surface level shit to steal
Did these motherfuckers just say Horus Rebellion? I was just thinking like an hour ago that it's kinda funny that the first daemon that appears in the Horus Heresy novels is called Samus
>>727664612Have you not been paying attention to Nintendo at all since BotW?>Odyssey and Bananza.>Pokemon PLA, SV, and PLZ-A.>Echoes of Wisdom, a 2D Zelda game, somehow is even more open world than ALBW while also having BotW menus and puzzle design.>Metroid Prime 4.>Kirby's Forgotten Land is like this open area linear design now.Puzzles in general are becoming open-ended with limited input from them now, there's a huge focus on open world from them, and it seems like unless they're sticking to an old formula like with Air Riders or Pikmin they're trying to make everything encapsulate aspects of BotW.
>>727668982Nah. No giant empty field, no NPCs, no constant hints, rooms have more than 2 doors. The only things that aren't great are the repeated boss fights so far and the upgrades aren't interesting since they're just different weapons.
>>727668267So why are you here then
>>727669276is there a rule stating I'm not allowed to be here?
>>727669362autism
>>727669168>our easy and banazaThey aren’t open world fucktard by that metric banjo kazooie and dk64 are open world but your a tripfag so retardation is to be expected >>727669107It would be interesting if they leaned into something more supernatural in the next game
>>727669107kek neat
>>727669362>I don’t care about Nintendo games post Wii u >but I care about this oneYou are a lying faggot shitting up the board
>>727665329>did anyone else know in their heart that the jig was up as soon as they saw the bike?Yes, though I didn't know how bad it would be until I found out Miles existed.
>>727664749Your image reminded me that Kinoblade 2 got an 83 on Metacritic but we still got Kinoblade 3There's hope Retro can learn from their mistakes and make a better Prime 5
>>727665329>did anyone else know in their heart that the jig was up as soon as they saw the bike?I honestly thought the game was still in Alpha development and it was one of those ideas that sounded novel initially but was going to get scrapped ultimately because anyone could see how unfathomably fucking retarded it was. I had no clue it was a working prerelease version and that the game was literally releasing not even a month later
>>727669472who said I don't care about Nintendo games post Wii-U?
>>727669429>by that metric banjo kazooie and dk64 are open worldExcept their levels are too small to be considered "Open world" whereas each area in Odyssey is the size of like ten of those level stitched together.
>>727665329I tried to convince myself you'd only need to use the bike to get to each location once and then once you got there you'd unlock normal teleporter/elevators like the other games and there would be some underground area that connected them all. I really can't believe they actually require you to use the bike every time. When I found the room in the first area with the 5 statues and the rotatable stone I thought 100% that was going to be a quick portal between the zones. It seems like it was just for boss lore. I can't fucking believe it. I can't believe not a single person brought up how bad this would be, or if they did I can't believe they were ignored.
>>727664084I don't blame Retro despite the shit writer they hired. This is all on Nintendo forcing design principles which are anathema to a good Metroid game. They don't want the player to be stuck or lost, they don't want the player feeling isolated or lonely for too long. The only exception to this was BotW and TotK finally unchaining Zelda from obsessive tutorialization and handholding, but that freedom brought its own open world slop principles. Outside of glimmers of fun from Zelda Nintendo's output the past five years has been garbage
>>727669593the only hope for 343Reject Studios is to get dissolved and blacklisted from ever working on any other Nintendo IP or franchise ever again
>>727669672>Find the teleportation chip>Finally a fast travel >Mfw I realize it's for moving the fucking stupid mech parts
>>727669852it keeps getting worse the more I hear about it
EVERYONE IS A FUCKING RETARD
>>727665975While people are misusing woke in place of MCU enshittification, the MCU enshittification is definitely making the reception worse than it could have been. The linear level design, the disconnected dungeon design with the empty desert hub, and the power ups having no purpose but being keys, could have all been forgiven if it wasn't for the NPCs and their constant yapping, hand holding, and escort missions.
>>727669852there's a fucking MECH???
>>727664084>>727664229Lmfao, keep coping faggots.>>727669950
>>727669668It’s still the same thing faggot
>>727669960>the game being a complete piece of shit could have all been forgiven if everything else wasn't also a complete piece of shit
>>727669852oh ho ho the downward spiral begins, brace yourself
>>727669950these niggas retarded
>>727669950>modern audiences that love MarvelslopShould've known.
>>727669852I was kind of relieved it wasn't a fast travel because I basically had 100% at that point so I would have been pissed. I also thought maybe "Beyond" referred to some kind of area like the Nether in Minecraft where you move faster. They could have used an area like that to make it make sense why you could walk to the different areas quickly without using the bike.
>>727670081>>727670096these fags be copin'!
>>727668715>the desert wasn't even kino maliciously designed to waste your time like Magmoor CavernsBullshit. You have to collect so many green crystals that even if you hit every single cluster while exploring what little there is in the desert and when doing the mandatory backtrack to Myles, you will still have to spend a good 10-15 minutes just driving and collecting them to advance the game.
>>727670406that's just lazy WoW-tier questing paddingMagmoor Caverns was specifically designed with enemies that you need to wait to flip over or their toxic gases to dissipate or their weak point become visible or needing to go morph ball to squeeze through passages. It was specifically designed to be as time-wastey as possible in the least intrusive waySol Valley is just lazy
>>727670005It even gets an emotional face close up.
>>727670043Yes, that is how people work. They are willing to ignore something is shit until the shit heap gets too big.
>>727664084What in God's fucking name were they thinking green lighting that script with Joss Whedon dialogue?
>>727670560They are both maliciously designed to waste your time and pad play time numbers. One is not better than the other.
>>727664084>Game sucks>Completed it anywayYeah that's why they keep making games that suck
>>727670618Edit it so Sylux shouts Nigger, please.
>>727670618Miles NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>727670701Got slippers gotta got slop. Honestly they deserve it for caring about a game for 18 years
>96% SCANI know I fucked up twice (destroyed two doors before scanning) but wasn't expecting missing 4%I never did a 100% scan on any of the NGC Prime games too.
>>727670695Magmoor Caverns is kino because it was a ton of tiny little inconveniences that added up over time so the monkey part of your brain still stays in the "wheee I'm having fun I'm fucking Samus bro" state and you don't realize how much you've actually been cheatedin Sol Valley, you instantly realize how dogshit retarded it is right off the rip; they didn't even bother trying to be discrete about how little respect for your intelligence they had
>>727670618>Miles freezing on his knees with his hands up just to deliver his line before falling overholy shit it's even worse than I ever possible could've imagined kek
>>727670778Reminds me when I got 100% items, and 99% scam because I forgot to scam one of the unique war wasps in Prime 1.But hey, I didn't spoil myself on how uggo Prime 1 Samus was so I guess I can't be too upset I dodged a bullet.
good
>>727669852Who the fuck thought it was okay to put this progressing blocking item in the desert too.>Samus, you need to find the sniper guy, he might have something for youThat fag wouldn't shut the fuck up telling me where to go but the second I need him to show me where the sniper guy was, nothing, "just look up yourself"Same bullshit with the last missiles ammo, spent minutes trying to bomb everything in the desert near the marker but turns out I had to come when the sniper was camping.
>>727670618>Everyone taking their masks off in a tense combat situation so they can emote.The MCU was a mistake.
>>727664084Metroid will live and even improve. If Halo didn't disintegrate after 4 Metroid Prime won't either.
If you could go back 10 years and everyone that Metroid Prime 4 is about riding around on a motorcycle smashing rocks in the desert while a jew screams at you to go follow the map marker, what do you think the reaction would be?
>>727671210told u niggas it all goes downhill once you finish collecting the keys, the sylux boss fight is the worst.
>>727667294FINALLY. Someone else noticed the trend. Nintendo saw how braindead GameFreak's consumer base is, and now they're wondering if they can get away with pulling the same shit.
>>727664229>>727664084You should really stop talking to chat gpt eric.
>>727669852I don't understand why but /v/ posts the best reaction images out of all the boards. Maybe /v/ really is the best board
>>727667158I trust you, you provide no proof after all.
>>727670021coping with what?if it's well received it becomes the new standard for the series and if it doesn't it kills the momentum for its revival either way, true fans losei swear nin toddlers don't even play the games they defend like they were personally attacked this is unironic izzat kind of shit isn't it
>>727670005>>727670618No, no, no that's the robot. The mech is about 20-30 feet tall.
>>727665212>he says while TotK and BotW exist
>>727669950The entire discourse has been corrupted for years by algorithmic expectations and open-world bloat and people who forgot what genuine atmosphere even feels like and it’s wild that anyone thinks a number slapped at the top of a page can contain what Retro has created here because this game is basically a cathedral of design in a wasteland of checklist games and if the critics can’t see that then that says more about them than about Metroid Prime 4 which is operating on a completely different wavelength from most modern releases and honestly these reviewers probably rushed through it on some embargo-driven sprint while half-watching a video essay and then wrote a paragraph about “uneven pacing” because they couldn’t solve a morph ball puzzle without a guide and somehow that gets turned into a score people treat as gospel.
>>727669950>>727671862The reality is that Prime 4 isn’t even trying to impress that crowd because it’s too busy being the kind of game that rewards patience and spatial awareness and the ability to actually look at an environment instead of demanding a shiny marker to point at every interactive surface and if that makes certain critics uncomfortable then perhaps they should interrogate their own attention spans instead of throwing numbers around as if they mean anything in 2025 where half the industry is calibrated around day-one engagement metrics and retention curves and Metroid still shows up with deliberate isolation and architectural grandeur and puzzles that make you feel like you figured something out instead of tapping X to win so trying to compress that into an 8 just feels like a category error.Also anyone pretending that an 8 is somehow “disappointing” for a series that has spent two decades being misunderstood by the broader market is playing into this bizarre modern thing where only a 9.7 counts as culturally relevant and it’s exhausting because Prime 4 is obviously already better than half the prestige releases that float through each year on marketing fumes and yet we’re supposed to act like a number from people who think “immersion” is tied to how many NPCs repeat a line at you is supposed to dictate the worth of a game built on texture and tension and silence and spatial geometry that actually means something.So yeah the scores are irrelevant because the game is doing something critics aren’t calibrated for anymore and if they can’t see that then that’s their calibration problem and not the game’s and anyone who actually plays it without needing a validation number will understand exactly what I’m talking about even if it takes a few hours for the atmosphere to melt their brain into the proper mode where they realize Prime 4 is less a game and more a discipline and if someone wants a number then they’ve already missed the point.
>>727671862Hey anon, are you lost? If you're not sure where to go, try checking areas you haven't explored yet!
Anyone playing on emulator? On Citron i'm crashing when i get Duke to join me in the lava area and try to leave the boiler room, which at this point i'm starting to think is a fucking blessing in disguise
>>727671892I'm not reading all that
>>727671892Anon, remember to check your map!
>>727669950Can you retards quit using critic scores as if they matter and see how many units were sold? THAT's the proper way to guage success. If it sold or not.
>>727664084Do it, faggot.
>>727671930goodcause it's complete crapI'd be surprised if he wasn't paid for that posthttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/211389-metroid-prime-4-beyond/81079439
>>727671703OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Rerminder that this is the most expensive Metroid game to date with a budget of $100 mil, and it needs to sell 5 million units just to break even.
>>727671998>copypasting gamespot postsShameful.
>>727664084Any nintrannie that kills itself is always good newsLong way down xer
>>727672056Anon... The robot pilots the mech.
>>727664842No its not, Fusion was already handholdy to an annoying extent, Dread doubled down on that and the next game will absolutely push the envelope further.
>>727671703ITS JUST LIKE MY HECKIN PACIFIC RIM!
>>727670618
>>727664084>IT'S OVER>IT BOMBED>OH NO NO NO NO>MYLES >Will become the best selling Prime game for being on Switch 1 and 2oops.
>>727671703it looks aggressively generic
>>727672141please anon...no more.....
When it's just being metroid it's great but they jammed in an empty field in the middle and made the areas too linear.
>>727671298They know they will probably die. That teleporter breaks after Samus uses it.
>>727672315>>Will become the best selling Prime game for being on Switch 1 and 2this is the unfortunate truthinsert that one Star Wars clip of that one dude asking the other guy how it feels to have lived long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames"Feels great" x'D
>>727669668It's obviously a technical limitation of the N64. Just look at Yooka Laylee
>>727672508people overreact to everything nowdays. This franchise already survived Federation Force which was alot more offensive to what Prime ever was.Do you people not get sick of blowing everything out of proportion?
>>727670618Why does Samus run away from that fucking nerd again?
>>727672674she's trying to escape the shit game
>>727672624So true, we should have no standards and expectations and instead just mindlessly consume product at full price every time.Wonder when will Tendies like you realize that Metroid fans don't have cult attachment to this company like you do and instead care ONLY about Metroid.
>>727672674to get rid of them
>>727672624>This franchise already survived Federation Force which was alot more offensive to what Prime ever was.That was just a shitty spinoff. This is mainline.
>>727672624no you idiotFederation Force and Other M came at a stagnant period and Nintendo got a clear message from the fans "Never make these abominations again" by the numbersthe worst part about Prime 4 succeeding would be that it becomes the series norm going forward. The devs will have learned nothing, all future games will forever be plagued with the features everyone are saying is the weakest points in the game and Nintendo will go "well, it still sold so I guess these issues weren't that big of a problem afterall"
>>727672731>the Metroid Prime fans don't like Nintendo >A franchise that started on the fucking Gamecube Gayest faggot in the retard club
I don't get why, after making a Zelda game with minimized handholding, they doubled down with Metroid.
>>727672878Because the game was in development hell across two different teams and took a 100 years to make.
>>727671998So that's where all these grifters are coming from
>>727672831>Prime 4 succeedingIt's not gonna suceed. Metroid Prime games never sold well passed the first 2 to begin with and it's gonna sell even worst because this game was a mess.
>>727672785Conveniently forgetting about Other M, huh?
>>727672840I said Metroid fans, dumbass.
>>727673071Forgot it existed, yeah.
>>727673029>It's not gonna suceed. Metroid Prime games never sold well passed the first 2 to begin with and it's gonna sell even worst because this game was a mess.And >>727672069
>>727671979So by your logic, FIFA is the pinnacle of gaming.
>>727664084It's always the same group that has to trojan horse their bullshit into beloved IP's because, if they tried to make an original IP, it would flop. They're content with killing what they didn't make. Prime is dead. Apparently NPCs needed quirky MCU characters and constant handholding. Prime fans didn't, but they just had to appeal to tourists because fans didn't gatekeep.
>>727664084Don't feel suicidal, anon.BE suicidal!
>>727673029Pokemon SwSh and SV were the shittiest games GameFreak ever made yet sit at 2nd/3rd best selling in the franchise because they were on the Switchliteral dogshit is pulling veteran numbers and whether I like it or not, Prime 4 is going to be a sales-office smash; the fact that Metroid wasn't a popular franchise in the past will only make it infinitely worse in comparison
>>727673118What's the fucking difference you're talking about Prime 4 you fucking braindead jeet
>>727672069where are you fags getting this numbers fromnintendo doesn't disclose budgets >inb4 kotaku article citing a rumor from trannyera user using a random 4chan post as a source
>>727673260Honestly, after playing itThe writing is not the issue with the game
>>727672069you sure your math is right there bub?
>>727672731what fucking standards?Over 1 npc you can MUTE with the options, and a desert that only exists in between the actual main areas?I'm not saying Prime 4 is the best game, its honestly the worst out of the 4 prime games. But people are treating this like this is a franchise fucking killer over stupid bullshit that a normal person isn't ever going to mind unless they watch youtube video essays all day long.
How many bosses are going to milk the shit out the psychic powers? I had to use the guided charged beam on 2 bosses which had the exact same gimmick to expose the weak spot and i just beat Sylux by throwing psychic morph ball poop at him.
>>727664229I wouldn't say it's bad overall. it just seems to suffer from a few implanted tumors that hold it back
>>727673717When it shows clear lack of understanding of what Metroid fans want, yes.
>>727673717it's a spiritual death of the IPthey took all the worst aspects of Prime 3, cranked it up to 11, sprinkled BotW over it, saw all the backlash and said "Fuck it, sent it anyway"
>>727674186Nobody takes backlash from journalists seriously, you work a make believe job.
>>727674273except the backlash is coming from longtime fans of the franchise too you disingenuous faggot
>>727672731>when will Tendies like you realize that Metroid fans don't have cult attachment to this company like you do and instead care ONLY about Metroid.You ungrateful fucks would spit at a steak dinner because it comes with a side of peas and broccoli.Nintendo should have canceled this clownfest of a game to teach you some humility.
>>727664084I just got the fifth key. The game feels like someone hijacked the gameplay of Prime and then hired devs who don't know what Metroid Prime or metroid in general is other than some basic concepts of metroidvanias maybe so they threw something together with the media they consumed which seem to consist of hero movies and recent zeldas.
>>727674448How do you do fellow veteran metroid fan?
>>727674451Yeah I fucking spit on steak, every time I order a Medium Rare steak it comes out as Well Done, so fuck it I'm not tipping and I'm ordering a burger with a large basket of fries with root beer all for myself, FUCK YOU
>>727674451>You ungrateful fucks would spit at a steak dinner because it comes with a side of peas and broccoliexcept in this case it's vegan 3D printed meat and the peas and broccoli is actually corn and cauliflower with green food coloring>Nintendo should have canceled this clownfest of a game to teach you some humilitywould've been a preferable outcomeMetroid Prime 3 was fine and despite ending the series on a low note, it concluded the story nicelyPrime 4 has no Metroid Prime, no Phazon, no Dark Samus. There is literally zero reason to have had a 4th installment in the franchise besides the secret 100% cliffhanger credits ending in Prime 3
It's kinda baffling how they shit out the game so half cooked. They must have known that the game was a mess and still shipped it. It would have required one person with a brain to play the game to tell them that this should still be held back for a year or two
>>727664749>>not a single metroid that focuses on exploration released after 2004Did you not play Dread?
>>727664084Prime 1 was the only good modern Metroid besides that fan dev project who rightfully didn't say shit until it was done. From that point any further Prime game should have become more of an FPS with controls and found ways to turn data gathering into more interesting fun activities. Every sequel tended to be pretty stupid like the whole dark light bullshit. It would even be fine to have more characters in Prime games but only if they acted more like WH40K characters or total aliens you can barely communicate with. Prime 2 was incredibly stupid>dark samusfuck off kek
>>727674525(You)
I want them to make Prime 5, but I also want them to admit that what they made in Prime 4 was complete crap and that they should learn from their mistakes. Prime 4 was not a good Metroid game nor was it a good game
>>727674825Sony fans that pretend to be veteran metroid fans don't actually play video games anon
okay so prime 4 is mid like the rest of the prime games, what are you guys crying about? the 2d games were always better
>>727675341epic
>>727674980Anon, people complained about the same shit in 3 and they went harder on it in 4. If we get a 5, they're likely to double down even further. It's over
>>727673717People are saying it's a franchise killer because Ninteno is almost certainly going to lose a lot of money on this game because of the decade of dev hell. A metroid has never been a huge seller to begin with so it's not like they need a reason to stop making games.
>>727675508Let me cope
>>727670618>samus MOTHERFUCKING aran needs bunch of nobodies to hold off the enemy so she can escape
>>727676053It's almost as if she's the only one who can operate a machine that's on its last legs.
>>727671709BotW is constantly reminding you where to go and what to do with the GO HERE beasts and the hundreds of shrines you run into every 3 minutes by going in one direction, and if you can't figure out a shrine you're encouraged to leave and try another one
>>727675341dread is puke fartshit too
>>727676435>BotW is constantly reminding you where to goNot really you get one marker and it doesn't tell you how to get there or what to do and that's it. It's not like skyrim where everything is on a path.>and if you can't figure out a shrine you're encouraged to leave and try another oneIn other words it isn't holding your hand like you thought.
>>727674825Most of them haven't played a Metroidvania in general enough to realise that the exploration is often just for little bonuses and expansions.
>>727674825i love dread but exploration took a huge back burner in the game
>>727676317Don't care; my Samus from the older games would beat the shit out of Sylux while a self-destruct sequence goes off while also protecting the machine she needs to use, she wouldn't need the fags.
>>727676698And this is where he'll bring up zero mission
>>727676806>while also protecting the machine she needs to useNever happened in a Metroid game by the way.
>>727664284good thing I didn't buy it
>>727674825Dread is linear as hellbreaking off the main path feels more like you're attempting an oob glitch rather than some natural design like Super
>>727677008Which is how it felt in Super mind you. In fact a lot of the skips in Super were unintentional exploits.
>>727675508"the game failed because it wasn't like botw enough! well fix it in prime 5 guys"
>>727676806>while also protecting the machine she needs to useas if. samus in prime 2 was about to fucking die swarmed by ing when the phazon covering the warp gate cracked to reveal it. it was her luck that saved her
>>727665329Not even the first trailer was good, the fact that there was absolutely nothing new or interesting was ringing alarm bells, I remember even kamiya agreeing with everyone who was disappointed. Then when that disgusting desert appeared in the second to last trailer I knew it was over, you don't put something that ugly and that misaligned with prime in your game without being guided by complete incompetence.I was still hoping I was being hyperbolic but every review confirmed all my worst fears. Nintendo knew the game was shit, they also knew retro wasn't good enough to fix it, I've never seen them abandon a game like that
>>727677096>Which is how it felt in Supershinesparking into an unintended shortcut in Super feels more natural than grabbing the bombs before Kraid in Dread
>>727664084>metacritic user scores have tons of people flooding this with 10's because they have to 'own the chuds'This shit is grim. Objectively there is no possible way this game is a perfect 10 yet people can't give proper critiques because they've all been mind broken by constant propaganda and a need to 'win'
/emubros/ what emulator are we using?
>>727676806So you're just going to pretend like the Chozo Ghosts didn't just fuck Ridley's shit up?What about the Baby Metroid healing Samus? Hell the baby gets a second assist in Samus Returns' Ridley fight too. The SA-X taking shots at the Omega Metroid?
>>727677205Which it doesn't, one is clearly intended while the other very clearly isn't.
>>727674980They won't admit it because the reviewers are licking their ass even after crafting a complete turd. They should understand the game is so bad that they should never touch prime again. I want retro to switch to 2d, dread is overrated dog shit too, I think retro even in it's current state could do better.
>reposting the thread again
/v/ lost like the faggots they are
>>727664084come on dude, it's been over 20 years since a half-decent metroid game came out. another bad one is just par for the course
>>727664084>i feel suicidalgive in to the urge.kill yourself.
>>727677235i hate how this site has become a war between megafans and haters, both giving games ether a 10 or a 0 instead of just fairly ranking the game
>>727664084Did you seriously have to post the thread another time?
>>727670618Wtf? They just open their masks in the middle of the battle to look at Samus? How does this shit get approved
>>727677235>they've all been mind broken by constant propaganda and a need to 'win'Sounds a lot like the /v/ having nintendo derangement syndrome. Now reply like my bitch or run away with your tail between your legs.
you guys are whack. the game is fun
>>727672624>Guys, Zelda survived links crossbow training therefore a shitty mainline game doesn't mean anythingCoping so extreme it can only come from the mentally ill.
The game is incredible and the best Prime game ever for like 70% of the story and then it dumps two god awful, dull, pointless fetch quests on you that turn it into the worst Prime game ever.Really gotta wonder what the devs were thinking.
>>727677438*snort* yeaaah I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder amirite XDLmao you fucking idiot
>>727677357>because the reviewers are licking their ass even after crafting a complete turd.What the fuck are you talking about?
>>727677357>They should understand the game is so bad that they should never touch prime againHonestly, I agree. This was a complete mess and if they had any standards, they would have delayed the game more
>>727677579>if they had any standards, they would have delayed the game moreYou would have bitched if they did
>>727670618So, why do people have an issue with this exactly?
>>727669950What the fuck happened to tendies, it feels like their IQ fell off a cliff immediately after the switch launched.
>>727677604I would, but the game could at least have been good. After playing Prime 4, I would have taken a 2 year delay if that fixed the game
>>727677579Let's be honest anon if you had standards you wouldn't have an issue here.
>>727677618You don't?Are you literally 12 years old?
>>727664317Damn that's pretty cool
>>727677661I probably wouldn't be on a mongolian basket weaving forum in that case
As a resident Sylux shitposter for quite a while (but haven't finished the game, yes I know I'm stepping in a minefield), I wonder what's got people so discontent. All I really know is that they don't kill him off which is good. I also really like the boss fight with him in Volt Forge. Yes I know it's not really him but those are still his abilitires the robot copies.If it's the fact that he apparently doesn't do much then I don't mind. So far this game has reminded me of Metroid Prime 2 heavily in which that game's story also heavily focuses on the new alien species Samus encounters and helps while the side villain fucks around in the background and sometimes fights you.If whatever they revealed about Sylux's backstory makes him lame to pathetic to people then I also can't really care. The big reason I like posting this guy is because he's a raging retard who seethes over Samus for no reason. His introduction in Hunters was him autisticly screeching and they even reference that with his amiibo.Well I probably can't read the answers to my post anyways so I'll just go. Cheers.
>>727677646>I would have bitched anywayThen eat shit
It's funny seeing this board living in an alternate reality with how bad the reception supposedly was when most people who played it were very positive despite the flaws
>>727677673Are you? Action movies have been doing that for decades now. It's not exactly recent.The only reason you would have a problem with it is if you watched a modern movie that used those tropes and came to the conclusion that it was the tropes that made it bad and not the movie itself. Which judging by this thread is the answer given all of you only seem to watch marvel movies.
>>727664084Why does no one ever mention that the gunplay in Metroid looks like complete SHIT!?Sure, having a jew in a space suit tag along is pretty bad but why would you endure that when the shooting game is trash to begin with?
>>727677235"Chuds" in this case being anyone who has valid critiques or anything less than cultic sycophantic praise to say about the game of course
>>727677776>Why does no one ever mention that the gunplay in Metroid looks like complete SHIT!?Because it's fine? If you have an issue with the shooting then you're just admitting that you never played the game.
>>727677750This happens anytime a game with any reason to have controversy releases. I'm just waiting for the discourse to die down before I try having real conversations about this game. I agree with the complaints of linearity but there's a lot of real good stuff here and I think this game has better combat with enemies/bosses than most of the other games. Also some kickass music and visuals. Myles & the other Feds don't bother me. That doesn't mean I'm defending their inclusion, it just doesn't detract for me personally.
>>727677763>coping this hardalmost makes me sad
to all the tendies here, do you seriously not care that all of the levels are corridors? the openness of 1 and 2 are what made them special you actually feel like your exploring but in 4 half of these rooms could be in a generic shooter, you just walk straight to the objective with maybe 1 branching path that leads to a dead end with a power up, how is this acceptable to you?
>>727677776Because I've never once given a flying fuck about combat in a metroid game. I'm here to explore. Granted Prime 4 fucks that up too
>>727677431I'm gonna do what I never do and be a fenceshitter. This game really is a 60-80% graded game. Three stars out of five. The combat is really fun and some areas like the Ice Lab are great but the pandery bullshit and all the things needed to accomodate it really bring it down to mediocre. It's structured like a harder Aonuma-era style Zelda (it's really like Wind Waker down to the great sea in the middle) and that's not what Metroid fans wanted, at all, so I understand the backlash completely.
>>727677431>i hate how this site has become a war between megafans and hatersAre you talking about Metacritic or 4chan?In the case of metacritic the people giving it 10s and the people giving it 0 are the same people they have people giving 10s occasionally so that their 0s aren't immediately detected as review bombing. In the case of 4chan it's just entirely one sided.
>>727677750because 4chan is the only place on the internet that lives in the reality that doesn't accept the abysmal media dogshit that's been coming out of every conglomerate for the passed 10 years
>>7276642294chan's opinion isn't universal. It's getting well received outside of here.
>>727677750most peopl gave their review before they reached the part where the game jumps off a cliff >>727677527
>>727677892You've never once played a Metroid game, have you.
>>727664481>Really exposes how out-of-touch their current leadership is.The opposite, really. Pivoting into movies is a smart strategy from their point of view.Nintendo's higherups know more and more kids grow with phone games instead of Nintendo hardware, so they want to keep making money, they have to branch out, otherwise they're headed towards death, since Pii U has proven there is only about 10 million people who will buy whatever they shit out and that's not nearly enough to keep a behemoth like this going. By making movies they're staying culturally relevant while preserving some of their hardware's momentum.Going third party is not the golden goose strategy /v/ thinks it is, because it decimates their hardware business and cheapens their image by turning them into yet another third party publisher. It's a last resort move that they don't need right now.
>>727677572The game is not an 8/10, reviewers know how mentally ill tendies are, even in negative reviews they have to preface their opinions like they are talking to a toddler who is about to have a tantrum. The rest of the reviews are made by shit eating tendies. For incompetent Devs an 8/10 is job well done, they were there to collect a pay check without embarrassing themselves too much.
>>727671907>CitronYo can you share your save? I can't even get past the fucking Forge, it hard crashes Everytime after the cutscene with Samus running in the hallway. Changing settings doesn't work for me. Trying to find a save after that IDC how far ahead.
>>727677941I mean, it's being well recieved here too the problem is that shitposters are considerably louder and dedicate all of their time to attacking Nintendo titles.
>>727664084>feels suicidal because some video game turned out badDo it, troon
>>727677974In other words, no matter what they give it you're going to treat it like they're rating it too high.
>>727677941>getting well received>2K current viewers on twitch on release weekend>every chat you go into mostly roasting it>numerous streamers already dropped the game without completing itLmao
>>727677960Why would you assume that?
>>727678112Because I read your post
>>727677875I am indifferent. It is just a video game.
>>727678168Exactly, why have standards or expectations for anything
>>727677892>I've never once given a flying fuck about combat in a metroid game
>>727678168>>727678213current year nin toddler mind in a nutshell
>>727678145Are you trying to say the appeal of Metroid is combat?
>>727664084My biggest disappointment was the level design. Shit's more streamlined than Prime 3.
>>727678072No, going by age old game review scores. 10/10 is weird fanboy shit, 9/10 Is great, 8/10 is good, 7/10 is either interesting or total shit, 6/10 is unplayable dog shit.The game is a 7/10 that dips into 6/10 whenever they force you into the desert.
guysthere's a race course
>>727669950This is what a shill looks like, fallacious arguments, never speaks in good faith, always presents biased 'evidence' like paid off reviews. This isn't a person you're talking to, it's a prostitute.
>>727678296THE appeal? no, because trying to reduce the appeal down to one singular thing is foolish. but the smoothness of the combat has always been a large part of Metroid's appeal, yes. the exploration would not be nearly as satisfying if the movement and combat you perform during it were not as fun.
>>727677618You are the retarded "modern audience" who has a room temperature IQ. You don't understand why people have a problem with it because you're a genuine idiot.
>>727664481>Breath of the Wild was Nintendo's equivalent to Sony's The Last of Us. Its influence is going to ruin many Nintendo IPs within the next 2-5 years.Not really, as much as you people want to make the claim Botw isn't really affecting any other game.I mean, they've made like 1 new open world game since? Whereas all of Sony's games have adopted the cinematic, main character + companion angle, even for series where it doesn't really work like God of War and Spiderman.This is pretty much a case of people seeing a wide area and going>OH OH OH IT'S LIKE BREATH OF THE WILD When it's just a wide open space. >That and Nintendo's obsession with becoming the next Disney In what way exactly? They haven't exactly been eating up studios and companies like Disney does, nor have they been vaulting their IPs only to make considerably worse and realistic remakes. I mean you say Live action and "marvelised" humor but Disney didn't invent either of those and it's not like Nintendo hasn't done that before with the live action Mario movie and games like Kid Icarus Uprising. >Really exposes how out-of-touch their current leadership is. Anon, you can't just throw words around like that without knowing what they mean.
>>727678324They also don't do anything interesting with the upgrades. On top of mostly being just lazily copypasted, you don't actually use most of the upgrades for anything other than breaking 1 or 2 locks to progress. The level/map design is fucking awful
>>727678387Anon, you just proved you would complain about anything.
>>727678168so you're ok with the game evolving backwards?
>>727678446See >>727677763You can just admit that your only exposure to any kind of action media are the marvel movies anon.
>>727677776They've been eating shit for 25 years, they aren't going to start complaining about that part now. Nintendo fans never got into FPS games so they have no standards for that kind of combat.
>>727677987No one has a save? Any as long as it's past the first time you visit the forge....
>>727677875>the openness of 1 and 2 are what made them specialThe problem is that 1 and 2 aren't exactly open, are they.
>>727678446This. Dumb people are always blissfully unaware of how dumb are.
Never played Prime so i don't know how much saying i have in this, but i watched some gameplay and in all honesty it just looks boring, there is no oomph in the shooting and most of the shit you do is generic puzzle solving and scanning and the combat is just meh. Art direction is neat though
>>727678492Sorry you can't read English, I'll rephrase that for you, the game deserves between a 6-7.5/10.
>>727678446>you don't understand!>now let me just shit my pants like a baby while I don't understand why I'm madHonestly, can you not be an adult for five minutes and actually articulate the issues you have?
>>727678672And then you'd complain about that and say it deserves a 5-6.5/10 and so on and so forth until you hit zero.
>>727670618I'd love if Sylux just blasted one of them in the face when they opened the masks, that'd be funny
There's only one good Metroid Prime game
>>727677776Unironically Prime 4 is the best here. The psychic stuff you get to play with is better than Prime 2’s light/dark and Prime 3’s hold + to win instantly.
>>727678715only Reddit is having fun playing this game anongo ahead, go on over there and see for yourselfthe game is getting ripped to shreds everywhere else
>>727678736You don't know how to read, I already established that the review score scale stops at 6 for functioning games.
>>727678585you can genuinely get lost in those games which isn't possible in 4, the map is a straight line while the other games were interconnected with alternative routes
>>727678668The shooting is dated. Prime 1 got by because it was 2002 and all people were doing then were shooting Elites in Halo.FPS still had that weighty feel, and so it felt fine. Now though, after a decades of battle royales and looter shooters and mil sims and call of duty and valorant and overwatch, that pace of shooting has been superseded. Not only that, but the arm canon doesn’t have any impact. Enemies die and react to shots like from Prime 1 20 years ago.
>>727678851I got that pic from reddit so you're probably right
>>727678683That's because they don't have any real problems with the game beyond it being on a system that they don't have. Why do you think they're focusing on the narrative and acting like marvel was the first thing to ever have the nerdy guy and the guys who treat someone like a legend. Hell mgs 2 did that for snake years ago, also otacon is the nerd "marvel" line guy.These guys just want to shitpost about Nintendo 24/7 instead of finding a hobby they like.
>>727664084Retro won't get another crack at it, but Dread was good. They desperately need to stop fucking with this franchise.
>>727678875>the map is a straight lineMuch like 1, yes. Shortcuts back to the main hub don't mean it isn't linear you know.
>>727678916Dread was>better>cheaper>at this rate it will either sell better or make them more money
>>727678903The script is still incredibly jarring. Metroid is a very atmospheric series; hearing these quips is not fun.
>>727678891is the cycle good? controls wise
>>727678806>its 2uhm im thinking based
>>727664084AI and mods can fix the game.
>>727678081>twitch chat is now a metric of qualitythis board is dead
>>727679023It's not. You just have an idea of a game that Metroid never was because you'd only heard of the series rather than actually playing it.
>>727670618>samus runs away and lets them all dielmaowho wrote this absolute shit
>>727664229>I'm glad i was never a fan of it, but i'm sorry for you guyslol shut up small dick faggot
>>727665329Yep. I don't usually like watching trailers before playing a game, but I had to here. What really kills me is this is what they restarted the project for. We were probably going to get another Prime game until Nintendo's new round of soulless suits took over and said no, Metroid isn't popular enough, we need mass appeal, make it happen and passed it off to some chimps.
>>727672315do you think sales of this absolute shit makes it better than Super Metroid or even Dread?
>>727678668Prime never evolved past shitty early console FPS because the era where the industry moved on was during Nintendo's motion control phase. This is actually a regression from prime 3 which itself was only a weird side step.
Other m is 100x better than this shit. I think I'm gonna sell my shitch 2.
>>727679076There are Metroid parts in the game. The lamorn scenes are really well done, that’s obviously Prime. The cast though don’t work. I get that they were trying to do the opposite of 3 but having escort missions and shit ruins the solidarity of the series.
>>727677941Game journos aren't human, they are parasites. AN 8 for Nintendo is like a 6 for anyone without the clout.
>>727664084Only this board hates this game.
>>727676806as strong as she is, she isn't really some invincible action hero, she fucking lost to a big crow, twice
>>727678951yeah sure buddy you clearly didn't play it or are just retarded
>paid like $30 for metroid prime 1 and 2 back in the 2000s>Well made, fun games>Pay like $85 for this>Game sucks, but I did get a mouse pad and keyring Hmmm
>>727679070Did I say that? It is a good indicator to overall interest in a game though. It's why everyone is always terrified of revealing their numbers. If I had access to Steam for this I'd wager less than 5K people are playing right now
>>727679249This single area had more love put into it than the whole of mp4
>>727664084The old and weak IPs need to die so new IPs can be created.
>>727671892You wrote all that shit and you could have just said "it's not for critics."
>>727664229Shut up, baldy turd worlder
It has good music.The gameplay sucks dickI shouldve bought xenoblade x
>>727678395Nobody pays critics make Nintendo do bad. Nintendo does that for free themselves every five minutes.
Any way I look at it, it comes off as "hey remember if Prime 1 but shallow"
>meet sergeant>wow, this must mean he's more sensible than the dorky engi->"Oh great, more lava."Never mind. I'm beginning to understand how the Space Pirates with them Samus isn't around. >>727670618Even the Ridley scene in Other M felt far less contrived than this.
>>727679076you're an idiot mate
>>727679527>shallowIt has 1 boss and 1 enemy
>>727679223when every other avenue to express opinions of this game is "join or die", this board is the only opinion that matters
>samus relies on these retards>linear hubs, no metroidvania to speak of>cringe dialogue>pointless, empty desert>DLC needed for music in the desertabsolute shit. go play prime 1.
How hard do you think the "Samus is actually trans" writer was seething that they once again made Samus dependent on a man to enable her suit upgrades?
Lot of the praise for this game seems to be I've waited 18 years for this and it kinda feels like Prime so it's a masterpiece
>>727678903the last cope of the tendie, anybody who dares criticize nintendo is just POOR and they lose sleep because they can't play games made for fucking childrenMP4 isn't a complete trainwreck, it's an interesting oddity of wii-era game design released in the modern day with some cool art and charming enough gameplay. but it's like the junior devs were too busy fangirling out "i'm working on a freakin metroid game! yas samus!" and forgot they should, ya know, actually make a fun game with various enemy types that present different challenges. or an open world with some amount of content that could entice/reward the player. i feel bad for the decent level designers who made the dungeons because so many key aspects of the game are just barely good enough and shockingly uninspired. if they paid me 500 bucks and gave me a couple days i could have at least populated their overworld with something other than a placeholder green crystal collectible...
Do the metroids and space pirates even show up in game at any point outside of the intro? I'm a few hours in and I'm convinced it was just a set up to something that got discarded for Viewros.
>>727679861Welcome to Nintendo.
>>727670560>Magmoor Caverns was specifically designed with enemies that you need to wait to flip over or their toxic gases to dissipate or their weak point become visibl>he didn't just run through the poison and walk past the enemies
The only thing Prime 4 is doing to me, is brainwashing me into thinking the 29.99 i paid for Prime Remastered was the biggest bargain ever and i wouldn't mind paying 69.99 for it instead of 4.I hate modern gaming.
>Take Metroid Prime Remastered>Give it a desert-shaped tumor>Add Reddit sidekicksHow are those things worth $40?
>>727664084At least the suit is cool.
>>727680310It really isn't, it looks like a man wearing the skin of a woman.
>>727669950if you remove the nintendo bonus and the switch bonus, this is a 60
>>727680310both suits are dogshit
>>727679361i agree. except new ips are shit
>>727666945It's okay to have fun with mid games.
Bruh the level design… volt tower is literally elevator shafts. This whole thing feels like I’m playing Halo 4
>>727673717I can tell you right now they wouldn't be catching nearly as much flak if they didn't announce this game literally 8 years ago.It's not a five-alarm piece of shit, it's an over-developed game that appears to be chasing trends and doubling down on the elements of Corruption that weren't fun or interesting.>stupid bullshit that a normal person isn't ever going to mind unless they watch youtube video essays all day long.Just because you've become accustomed to having your time wasted by empty hub worlds and unskippable cutscenes with badly written NPCs doesn't mean they shouldn't be in my Metroid game.
>>727680310it's a fucking bike glued to the varia suit
Prime 4. I think it's a worthy addition to the series, not as good as the previous three, but still very enjoyable. I also like that completing it was as quick as in the 2D series.I would be happy if they added new campaigns in the future, such as the Sylux campaign.
>>727677763>It's actually a good thing to create completely unearned drama in any game that doesn't have it because action movies for children do itIt's generic as fuck.
>>727672315>cant defend game>deflect to sales instead
>>727677750>>727677838>still inplying it does have flawsYour falseflag game is weak, snoy.
>Mario kart tutorial for the violaI don’t even man
>>727678024>attackingThe fragility of nintendopes.
>>727680951Gran Touristroid :DDDDI'm honestly surprised no one has mentioned it more yetit's honestly, DISGUSTINGLY, insulting
>>727670618They thought we would cry at this scene lmao
>>727681237What are you talking about? This is what Metroid needed. I'm disappointed we didn't get any checkpoint races in the desert or the ability to upgrade the bike though.;)
>>727670618I feel like I have seen this exact scene 1000 times before
>>727680951>>727681237>>727681373The bike and everything about it as a whole feels right out of a Sonic game or something, it's so jarring. It sucks that Metroid is either this and dollar store Halo marines, or Press X to awesome trite action movie Samus. They've massacred the tone of the series completely. Nothing can be discreet quiet and thoughtful anymore, we need patronizing yapping or CUHRAYZEE action sequences and toy-like gimmicks. It's all so tiresome.
>30 minutes of Viola tutorialsWas this really fucking necessary? This would have taken months to program
>>727679907I'm not reading all that
>>727673717Peak retard post.
I’m a the green cube boss thing at the volt tower, I have to turn the game off. It’s such an amateurish boss to design. No joke it’s something I’d expect from a game jam from university students. This is not good so far. This whole thing so far is teetering on a 7/10, TEETERING.
>>727673717Turning off the voice and subtitles doesn't get rid of the cutscenes, doesn't get rid of the annoying escort missions, doesn't get rid of the pointless desert, doesn't magically complete the stupid green crystal quest, doesn't make the levels less linear, doesn't suddenly give the upgrades any significance between being a single use key to a very telegraphed lock.Stupid fucking Fanboy.
>>727674825Did you?
>>727673775That would actually be my analysis but it's not enough to make it worthless.They need to cull that aspect of it if they're going to make another Prime game, though. The people who made this one feel like people who were just kids when Metroid Prime originally came out (which is totally possible, being that it happened 23 years ago). They "get" what Metroid Prime was about but their approach to the development of it missed the mark because they injected concepts that are unfitting and misguided.
>>727664084Funny how both MP4 and Veilguard are purple coded. It's like the devs are telling us something.
>>727673247I'm pretty sure that Anon purely meant success as in commercial success. Which has no bearing on quality. Tangentially, I actually have no clue how good the FIFA games even are as Footy sims. I think I played 10 minutes of one on a cousin's PS2 as a kid and did not get it at all. I suspect that's just how most posters are with sports vidya. They haven't played them in years if they ever played them at all, so nobody on this board actually knows if they're quality or not.
>>727679331No it's not you retard.The average kid doesn't use twitch, it's all uncs.
Turned it off at the green cube boss. I know they didn’t test this stuff thoroughly because there’s no time between attack patterns to damage the boss. I know all the reviewers put this shit on easy, I fucking know it.
>>727682534lmao
A FUCKING MOTORCYCLE
>>727682000U mad?
Miles fucked the shit out of samus btw
>>727682587>anon is bad>blame the game Maybe you should try to play the game, explore to get more energy tanks
>>727682826assblasted in fact
>>727678851>Reddit is having fun playing this game anontop voted post on /r/metroidvania right now
>>727682964Thank god Silksong came out, now this guy can die knowing it really is a Nintendo problem.
>>727682865It’s the fucking start of the game those attacks do 50 damage and the boss fight lasts for about 15 minutes. This is off the back of F-Zero racetracks and terrible Attack of the Clones droid fights and SYLUX DOING A CRASH BANDICOOT SPIN
>>727682826I would be if I bought a switch 2.
And this was the REBOOTED attempt. Imagine how fucking had the FIRST attempt at the game was.
>>727682587You can shoot and dodge at the same time, blow off the sides and make your own openings. The core is vulnerable at all times, even when it's in its spawn animation. It's a much better boss than the previous ones.
>>727683101Maybe it wasn't bad, and it was cancelled because the team refused to go along with Tanabe's autism
>>727664084nothing of value lost. I gave up after prime 3, 2 was the last good metroid prime game. dread was fantastic and I wish they went more into that direction. I always can go to metroidconstruction to get my super metroid hack fix. I have more trust in autistic fans than in modern devs anyway.
>>727664084No you didn't
>>727669950It doesn't matter. The user score doesn't matter. The critic score doesn't matter. /v/ certainly doesn't matter. Nobody can be trusted to be trustworthy about the quality of this game, either because they're journos with little sense of what makes a game good or not, or because they're fanboys / anti-fanboys using the game as some battleground for what should be the long-dead console wars. Can (you) even trust yourself? Or will you be primed to think one way or another about the game by the endless shitposting? I just don't know anymore.
>>727683190>Singapour>"maybe it wasn't bad"The game was 100% running at 20fps while looking like a game made by GameFreak.
I'm having a good time with it so far.
>>727683751Good for you.
It’s not terrible. It’s not an FFXV or Mass Effect 3, but the game puts out these fantastic ideas and then falls over 30 minutes later. I’ve never seen a game have 9.7/10 moments and then 6/10 moments in the span of an hour.
>>727664084>didnt even know this came out until todayI got to stop living under a rock... I'm watching a walkthrough atm and all I'm feeling is that is a kid friendly Doom eternal but without the arenas
>>727664084You get used to watching your favorite IPs crumble to dust.
>>727666945Then why did I quit after the second dungeon (because this shit is basically zelda) and delete the XCI off my hard drive?
>>727684323Because you're baiting.
>>727683430I can trust myself because I am the one who shitposts
>>727684323Skill issue
>>727677641It fell off a cliff after the steam deck launched because any tendies with any semblance of self-respect became idorts around then
>>727682964>I spent three years fighting cancer so I could live to see my heckin Silksong and Prime 4!These aren't real people. No way I walk the same streets as these guys
>>727684465So anon if you had cancer, what would motivate you to keep fighting? It's pretty natural to look forwards to something even if it sounds pretty pathetic when told to someone else
MAYBE IF WE CALL IT MARVELSLOP MORE WE CAN ACTUALLY WIN THIS SISTERS!!!!11!!!1
>>727684597I would look forward to seeing a brand new day and spending time with my family, not some video games
Even reddit knew
>>727664084Spamming 10s for a thowaway 18 year old game. What a fucking shame.
>>727684760/v/eddit moment
>>727684709>spending time with my familyHe literally said that family was priority, why are you being a disingenuous faggot.
>>727664229The only thing holding it back from being a masterpiece is the end game fetch quest and the dumb desert.
>>727684709unlikable faggot
>the morphball doesn't even blow up on death Welp. Guess that's a wrap, no fapping material no buy.
>>727684760r*ddit is based for once wtf????
What do we think about nuSamus design?
>>727664749>>metroid series is known for and got big off its explorationThis is just blatantly false Metroid as a series is one of the most linear and least open ended "metroidvanias" in the entire genre. From 1 to super metroid to prime to dread, Metroid almost always has a set order of events and areas based on acquiring items in a very set order. It's just very very good at tricking you to almost always find the right path to go on.The problem with, say, fusion is that it doesn't even pretend it's tricking you, the problem with prime 3 is that it is outright linear, and the problem with prime 4 is that it does such a bad job at tricking you that many people go to the wrong area then have to spend 10 minutes driving the bike in frustration to the right area which then immediately gives you the item you need to go back to the first arra and kicks you out.
>>727682964surely this is a shitpost right? right..???
>>727684808>>727684884Oh you must be a Redditor too kek
>>727685006Love it, my third favorite Samus design behind ZM and Prime 1
Now I realize why they were so reluctant to market it
>>727684970now go back
>>727685206>hating prime 4 is le reddit!11!!!someday your contrarianism is going to get you killed, retard
>>727685253gb2r
>>727685253yes, that’s why you had reddit screenshots now go back
>>727685132>lol why does he care about video games over family, fucking redditors amirite>get corrected that he literally said "outside of my family">double down on your retardationat least own it up faggot
>>727685269>>727685276not even that guy you fucking retardi'm just sick of you niggers defending a fucking kusogenintendo is not your fucking friend
>>727685395reddit seething
>>727684760>>727685253I'm honestly curious what subreddit this because the main Metroid sub is full of glazers and meatriders
>>727685426this ain’t reddit, nigger, now go back >>727685471>le glazers and le meatridersOHNONONO AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAH ITS BROWN
>>727685437you have to go back
>>727685551meant for >>727685471
>>727665591>>727665791>>727665817Good morning, please look again at the post I replied to and notice the absence of one of the two colors. I am awaiting your apology.
>>727685395Yeah you're definitely a reddit tag
>>727685471Metroidvania
>atleast own it upwhat did saar mean by this?
>>727685107Yes anon, dying people only care about Jesus Christ and spend every moment of their remaining lives sad and depressed.I saw an old dude getting brain radiotherapy make a thread on Nioh 2's Steam forum, he said he's forgetting things rapidly so he just made a thread to keep notes.
>>727685549you are a fucking attack dog trained by your corporate owners to create fake consensus and never form your own opinionsyou probably haven't even played any of the game, and even if you did you'd continue riding nintendo's cock like the absolute cockmongling dipshit you arelet me go a step further: you're the one who needs to fuck off to reddit.
>>727685691take my upvote!
>>727685549t. glazing meatrider
>>727685728you’re a brown reddit nigger and need to go back
>>727685605did you even read the article
>>727685782>and NOW he pulls the brown cardgod damn i wish 4chan would ban every indian IPyou fuckers are a blight on the internet
>>727685760now go back, glazing meatridert. not a gay reddit nigger
>>727685848>no uback you go redditnigger
>>727670618This is how Sylux is beaten? I can't fucking believe he was wasted on dogshit like this. I hope whoever involved in the development on this gets nothing but misfortune their way, fucking subhumans.
>>727685915and there you have it, the poo breaks down because he can't rationally argue any further after outing himself
>>727685969brown reddit nigger meltdown
>>727686038>le brown reddit nigger meltdown!
>>727671709???? the 4 fucking objectives are on the map at all times lmaoif you got lost in BOTR/TOTK you are a legitimate lobotomized retard
>>727685942You fight him in some magic dimension and after you defeat him and are about to teleport, he breaks free and kills the other faggots while you teleport away
Why one of levels look exactly like a pussy?
>>727686079>
>>727677618lay off the anime
>>727673717It's a franchise killer because whether it tanks or succeeds, Metroid is fucking dead. Just another longstanding series Nu-tendo has fucked up.
>>727686151>SAAAAAAAAR>WHY ONE OF LEVEL LOOK NEEDFUL PUSSI
>>727664284I know woke and Reddit dialogue are apart of the same culture, but they aren't the same. Something isn't woke just because it has Reddit dialogue
>>727664084it was awful to see how this open world flat slop is ruining great game series, elden first zelda then elden ring and now metroid
>>727685853>how do you do fellow non-glazing not-Reddit meatriders
>>727674825Are you retarded? Dread locks the door behind you for 80% of the game. Metroid is actionslop now.
>>727677618 brownoids seething when their favorite anime guy is jobbing or whatever and they have a histrionic fit
modern nintendo isnt really for adults anymoreTake a look at Yoshi's Island and then take a look at Yoshi's Story / Wooly Worldthe shift was painfully obvious
>>727686321>t. brown reddit nigger
>>727686240my thoughts exactlyit either fails and the IP is donezoor it succeeds and the IP becomes generic marvelshlock
>>727667294they simply do not care about franchises that only pander to westiesas they should
i hope nintendo is paying you shills more than a janitor's salary
>>727686346Brown website
>>727664317Mexico is unironically the coolest country ever so much culture and cool shit going onEven their criminals are brutal Ashurbanipal-style warlords who build entire towns and infrastructure like portable cell towers, and go toe-to-toe with U.S. special operators on a regular basis (probably because many Mexican cartels were founded by former Mexican special forces, who were trained by the generation of US operators who founded Delta Force and DEVGRU)When are we gonna get a 4x nacro-terror state building game Paradox needs to get on that ASAP
>>727686407t. brown gay niggerfaggot redditor
>>727684760so much of prime 4s issues would be cleared up just by removing the bike and desert. having to backtrack to myles for beam upgrades wouldn't matter as much if you got dumped out in a smaller interconnected hub so it felt like you unlocked a cool shortcut.idk how souls games can be this popular and devs can ignore how much people love interconnected areas with unlockable shortcuts. fucking bananza even does this.
>>727684767>if you beat the game you can unlock a basic feature that's otherwise paywalled. NOW STOP SLANDERING MY DADDY NINTENDO!I'm just glad these people don't breed.
>>727686509the problem is that they do breedthat's why the world is so fucking shit now
>>727664084Why are so many people here so dramatic about video games? Its only a game. Its not the end of the world if its shit. You shouldn’t feel suicidal because of a shit video game.
>>727686481t. pablo 'taco' ramirez-hernandez
>>727686494hi brown gay niggerfaggot redditor, thank you for accurately signing your post, you need to go back now
>>727677008>>727677205Most of Dread's big skips were intentionally programmed in. They're just hard.
>>727686479guess I struck a nerve
>>727686595People waited 18 years for this. That's half their life.
>>727686595read the last few posts, it’s unironic reddit dbspics
>>727665329Was the bike first or was it the 'psychic' gimmick? Echoes' light and dark thing was central to gameplay. So was Corruption's phazon stuff, flawed though it may be. The psychic powers are just... another thing that occasionally solves puzzles? It's just lame. Plus, Sylux? Really?
>>727686628t. newfag
>>727686901we know, you’re a redditnigger, you can stop signing your posts now
>>727678715>having fun looking at a wallpaper
>>727686994t. retard
>>727684052>It’s not an FFXV or Mass Effect 3It's significantly worse than both of those games. What are you talking about?
>>727687045obviously, you’re a redditnigger after all
you really should stop, this is just embarrassing at this point
>>727686809NTA but it was the bike firstthen after I saw that the psychic powers were only useful for solving BotW/TotK tier puzzles I did a 360 and walked away
>>727686601Lmao sorry your wonderbread shit isn't doing it anymoreAlso what are you 14 or something lmao try harder next time
>>727687126>t. crying redditnigger retard
>>727684760For me the first sign was the gimmicky psychic powers. I was still cautiously optimistic then, but it was already a bad sign they didn't know what they were doing.The motorbike is what killed it for me. I check out then and there, and only returned to shitpost when the basedböy NPC showed up.
>>727669950>Suddenly it's the critic scores that matter and the user scores are just from retardsFucking lol
>>727687170>brownoid redditspacingIt’s over
>>727686595>Why are people in a videogames board talking about videogames?Beats me.
>>727665059same desu
>>727686595Imagine you go to a five star restaurant and order a steak.The waiter comes out after you wait there for about twice as long as everyone else is waiting for their meals and they tell you they fucked it up and they're making a new one.Then an hour later, they deliver you a piece of dogshit on a plate and refuse to comp you.
>>727687215ok redditspic now go back
cringe
>>727687386Close, but it's more like this:Imagine you go to a restaurant, and have some of the best steak you've ever eaten. So good in fact, you go there two more times. Second times it's just as good, third time it was a little off, but still great. But then the restaurant closes for several years. And you crave that fucking steak. Suddenly, you hear it'll be reopening, and that it'll be the same manager. You lineup to get in like everyone else. You all sit down at your table, order that delicious fucking steak you longed for, but it takes hours to come.The waiter comes out after you wait there and they tell you they fucked it up and they're making a new one.Then an hour later, they deliver you a piece of dogshit on a plate and refuse to comp you.It stings extra bad cause the Prime series has a great track records, and Metroidvania as a genre has evolved massively in those 2 decades.
>>727687563I was here first bitch, suck my dick.
>>727687192who are you quoting
redditspic still crying
>>727677431>megafans and hatersmetroid fans aren't enthralled by the game at allit's more like corpo shills vs bandwagoners and some disgruntled customers
>>727687804you and the other redditspic who need to go back
>>727687270The actual phrase you're looking for is called "legibility", and I do that so ESLs like you can more easily read my posts. It was taught to me in my college composition courses as a basic requirement of MLA/APA - 12 point, double-spacing, Times New Roman. In short - you are genuinely on the left side of the Bell Curve, and I am in the top 0.03 percentile of intelligence lmao. You won't believe this part, nor do I care if you do - but I am legitimately considered "dangerously intelligent" by the Department of Homeland Security (whatever the fuck that means lmao) and have been placed on and off the watchlist multiple times in the last 15 years. The only people watching you are the adult daycare attendants looking over your shoulder lmaoRegardless, take care! :)
>>727687870buddy I think you're the one that needs to go back bro
>>727687954didn’t readyou’re brown and need to go back
>>727688041Because you can't read ;)
>>727687721Yeah, that's probably a more complete analogy.
>>727688029>le buddy brook redditspic
>ok redditspic
>>727688082>;)REDDITSPICEDDITSPIC
>racistyikes>retardedyikes>redditoryou need to go back
now dumping his poojeetjak folder in defeat, rough day for reddittrannyspics
>>727688171C O P E OPE:)
Prime 4's dungeons feel like Prime 1 but the devs think you're retarded and can't handle walking through a dungeon. Feels very similar to TP/SS where Nintendo turned all the dungeons into boring straight lines.
>>727688265It's definitely like an Aonuma Zelda game, empty overworld and all.
>>727685814Why the fuck would I? The first sentence has all the relevant information. Did you look at the post I replied to?
poorfags lose again
>>727684767If the internet weren't so gay and stupid I would read that image as sarcasm.
>>727688265The feel like Prime 1 of Prime 1 was designed after FFXIII
>>727672371what's wrong with the mech?
