>You will soon realize that the bourgeoisie arent human.Was he right?
>>727665714it's easy to hate the bourgeoisie hating the poor takes courage
>>727665714Yes
>>727665714Are women the bourgeoisie?
>>727665714He knows about the Jews TELAVIV KILL THIS MAN
>>727666119yeswomen are proletariat by choice, they can always choose to marry a rich guy or get a sugar daddy or whore themselves out.only men are the actual laberors in society.
>>727665714>responsible for all war>responsible for all tyranny>responsible for all usuryidk u tell me
i will now do another playthrough, this time with 1/1/6/6 stat spread
>>727665714you retards know that the bourgeoisie are the middle class, the people you think you are or want to be, right?i swear most people using that word think it means bill gates and jeff bezos. it means YOU
>>727666386Technically it refers to the mercantile class, which was the middle class in the middle ages (aristocrats were the upper class then). With the rise of capitalism and industrialization, the landed gentry became less political relevant than ultra-wealthy capitalists and merchants until eventually revolutions and wars completely undid the power of the aristocracy, putting us in a plutocratic society where those who own capital are the upper class instead of those with noble titles.
>>727666386>this word means a totally different word that has nothing to do with what Marx was talking aboutUmm no i dont think so
my socialist hasan-dickslurping astroturfed wannabe punk rock friend who streamed this game to me didn't know what he was saying when he got to this part because he didn't know what pederast meant, and didn't believe me when I told him
>>727666692>hasan fanUm. We like Stalin. We dont like champagne socialists here.
>>727666560>>727666573the working class is today as it was then - people with no productive property, who rent their bodies for moneythe "landed gentry" of today are the capital owners, the people who buy work from others and take a cut from itthe bourgeoisie was then, and is now, the middle class - very small capital owners, who can work for themselves instead of selling their labour, or can even rent others' labour. a small shop owner is bourgeoisie. a twitch streamer is bourgeoisie.a dentist with his own practice is bourgeoisie.that's the text. the subtext is, if you aren't living paycheck-to-paycheck, paying rent on your home, borrowing money at the end of the month, worried you might lose your job, unable to quit your bad job, etc, you are bourgeoisie. amazon warehouse workers are working class, your web developer ass is bourgeoisie.
>>727666692by the way pederast means pedophile in the west, but just means gay in the east
>>727665714Why didn't Harry shoot this guy on the spot?
>>727665714no, he was left
>>727666863there's no difference between the two, gays reproduce through vampiric embrace on weak victims
>>727666785>your web developer ass is bourgeoisie.a web developer is not self-employed nor are they business owners. they have to sell their labor to live and by definition would be part of the working class.
>>727666785no landed gentry a the rent seeking class who extract wealth from an otherwise productive economy, this type has always been a harmful leech
>>727665814Having lived near the poor, it's actually quite easy to hate them. It's like living near human garbage.
>>727666925Most homosexuals aren't PTSD gay, they're just regular gay (no disgust reaction towards homosexuality).In fact, a man can "become gay" by taking some steroids that inhibit the disgust reaction, like Trenbolone. This will also make you less racist.
>>727666948You own your laptop. That's the factory you produce from. You sell your product to the company you are contracted with. You could find another client for your product.
It's kind of interesting how in central europe where the three estates coexisted with the capitalist bourgeoisie for a while in the decades surrounding the fin de siecle, marxism was the ideology of the urban bourgeoisie because it was usable against the church, against the old order and also the competing chuddy radicals from the proletariat, especially the rural proletariat who wanted both the capitalists and the feudal lords gone.
>>727666953>no landed gentry a the rent seeking class who extract wealth from an otherwise productive economy, this type has always been a harmful leechThat's capital in the stock market, buddy. And the stock market today will allow you to invest with $100, the kind of money you can make in a day of begging in any big american city. You too can play capitalist and seek rent on your $100. You can even digitally, no questions asked, rent it to the government for a guaranteed payout in 2 years.Those are all things a "working class" person under Marxist terms couldn't do. Marx specifically wrote his whole thesis because factories drove workshop people out of business, and only a small percentage of people could start and own factories. It was IMPOSSIBLE for most to make money on their money, while today everyone can and its illegal to stop you from doing it.
>>727665714>tumblr noseyikes
>>727666115There need to be more kirkings
>>727667020>You own your laptopYou do not, in most cases. Working for a company and they send you a laptop to work for them on.> That's the factory you produce from. You sell your product to the company you are contracted with.This is like saying if you're a carpenter and you own a set of carpenter tools you own the means of production. The means of production is the composite of the tools and the resources of production, and you own the tools but not the resources or the ability to generate said resources.> You could find another client for your product.So could a carpenter.
>>727666770Based groyper
>>727667143A carpenter with his own workshop is bourgeoisie under Marxist terms, yes.His intern isn't.
>>727666785>no you see, the rich people are those who are living paycheck to paycheck>this account is based in israel
>>727667180Correct. In this scenario, a web developer is the intern. You do not own your own firm and you cannot reliably hire labor, you are literally selling your labor to other companies to live. Even if you're a solo web dev working on contracts you are effectively no different than a skilled carpenter working for different firms.
>>727665714Yes, he just forgot to mention that commies aren't either.>>727666210>they can always choose to marry a rich guy>there is as many rich guys as there are women>literally every man in the world is rich
>>727665714He was bald.
>>727667281multiple women can marry the same guy
>>727665714If the bourgeoisie aren't human, then what is he?A rat sitting on a rock his entire life, huffing insect fumes while the world moves on without him.
The chinese were without any doubt completely right to consider the merchant classes the lowest of the low, loathsome parasites leeching on the actually productive classes.
>>727665714Of course he is, he was right about everything almost
>>727667305The true reason for his hatred. Baldness.
>>727667371that's the message, yes
Disco Elysium should be declared as being made by a religious extremist death cult like Aum Shinrikyo and get taken out of every online store
>>727666917>clings to the past like a cadaver
>>727667124speculative investments are productive as they are used by the capitalist to fund their venturesI suggest you stay in school
>>727667272>In this scenario, a web developer is the intern.No, because your computer is the factory. That's the means of production for software and digital media. And eveyrone can buy into that for the kind of money you can get from a bank just by showing your ID card. Entry is easy.
>>727667272>>727667940 You're both trying to fit concepts 19th century political theorists couldn't predict into little ideological language boxes because otherwise the larp dies
>>727667940If that's your argument, then everyone is part of the bourgeois because they either own a phone or a computer which both can be the means of production for software and digital media.
>>727668151yes, marxism is retarded in the 21st century, because every citizen of a normal country has access to the kind of instant loans that can get them into productive property
>>727665714I would say around 70 to 80 percent of rich people live in a delusional bubble that shields them from reality so deeply as to appear alien-like.
>>727668108Marx's base concepts are really simple, but dumbasses over-complicate it as a way to try and make it into a stupid gotcha. Like >>727668234I don't even particularly agree with a lot of the shit he says given he ranted about how the poors should be shot for being too stupid to understand Marxism. But the break down of working to live -> working and owning to live -> owning to live is simple to grasp.
>>727665714He did nothing wrong. That woman was a slut who slept with thugs and bullies
>>727668405Most of Marx's concepts come from him being a lazy degenerate shithead who couldn't be bothered to work a job and blamed everyone else for his own poverty. Looking at the man explains quite a bit about his philosophy.
>>727668405Most of Marx's concepts rely on the following:>labour makes money; if your money is making money, you are stealing from someone>it becomes increasingly difficult to obtain productive property, and it will become impossible>the value of any good or service or anything is dependant on how much work went into itThese are all very wrong today, and arguably wrong even when he wrote them.
Literally me, except the war I fled was having sex
>>727665714Liberals indeed aren't human yeah. They've demonstrated their subhumanity on many, many occassions.
when did 4chan turn on the rich?People here used to be hustlers that had the will to grind to achieve their dreams
>>727668558>labour makes money; if your money is making money, you are stealing from someoneThis is, generally speaking, true. This is the foundation of society in the US.>it becomes increasingly difficult to obtain productive property, and it will become impossibleThis is also true, as it is harder for the working class to push into bourgeois as the current bourgeois absorb all of the monetary gains and production from society. You cannot start your own business without being decimated by the big ones.>The value of any good or service or anything is dependant on how much work went into itThis is about the only axion of Marx's work that is currently false and can be trivially proven by the garbage Tesla puts out while still being valued above everything else.
>>727668405I don't care about his philosophy. I care about his economics. And his theory of labor, while decent, and far better than modern neoclassical theories of macroeconomism, fails at a single point: the industrialization of labor, and machines.Which is something Marx knew intimately. He knew he failed there. In Das Kapital, he fumbled all over it, and tried to just handwave it away. Basically, his argument is that "all machines are product of labor, so machines are just labor x2, so it's all worker in the end". Which is a fine political position to take, but an absolutely retarded economical or even mathematical one, and he knew it.If you fix that failure, Das Kapital is a surprisingly decent theory of economy, which works. Better than most neoclassical macroeconomics, which arguably isn't a high bar. But if you fix that failure, you remove the entire point Marx made by writing the entire book.
>>727668657investing is risky, buying risk to sell it for profit if it works out is a productive enterprisetherefore your money can make money, by trading risk
>>727665714Somewhat correct, they are the ones who flooded my country with thirdsies to profit from cheap labor.
>>727666917>this guy didn't notice that measurehead was blackbruh
>>727668873Investing is just legalized gambling by the state, especially given that you're rarely investing in tangible businesses but instead speculative markets driven by hype and FOMO.
>>727668853How could Marx intimately about any of the topics he so fervently wrote about when by and large he never interacted with the proletariat he wrote about and quite frankly hated being among them when he had to be at all. Much the same that his own personal failings with finances ensured he was perpetually either in debt or lacking in funds at all and constantly demanding handouts from his father, who did run a successful business or Engels who also had a successful enterprise to fund Marxs own inane writings. Listening to Marx on subjects of economics is equivalent to listening to your local crackhead for life advice. Though ironically the crackhead might be better at acquiring capital to continue being a crackhead.
>>727668623>when did 4chan turn on the rich?when the noticed that most rich people belonged to a certain ethnic group.
>>727669102>>>/pol/
>>727669102you mean the Irish right?
>>727667940Strictly speaking you are still limited in what you can do with your "factory" due to IP law. You can not buy into the realm of exorbitant and ill-regulated government licensing without capital and the corporations can freely step all over you, because they have more capital with which to disrupt and hinder you.You have in essence bought a printing press, but freedom of the press still does not apply to you, which means that you do not truly own the means of production.
>>727669070Because it works. Put on paper, and equations, most of it works. Certainly far better than the macroeconomics of today. Have you read that pure retardation?If you tweak it a bit. The absolute equality between labor and value he so insists is one. Labor can produce not much value - many factors can multiply the value of labor tremendously. But mostly, if you "fix" Marx, as an economy theory, it works.But if you "fix" it, you remove absolutely all the political point Marx ever tried to do.
>>727669002I always thought he's the moustached strongman troped with inverted colorswas disappointed to learn those white strokes on his upper lip are not a moustache
>>727666785No, the specific term for what you're talking about is "petite bourgeois"Bourgeois class status is determined by your relation to labor and capital, not a measure of how rich you are.
>>727669385>No, the specific term for what you're talking about is "petite bourgeois"that's bourgeois tho
>>727669314I've produced enterprise software from a crached windows, using a cracked MS Office, and integrating libraries with expired licenses. It doesn't matter.
>>727669410Impossiblebecause I'm petite bourgeois.
>>727669478>the lower middle class isn't middle class, because i want the aesthetics of being working classvery middle class (bourgeois) behavior
>>727669410Elon Musk and Joe small business owner are both bourgeois
>>727669314>you can't use your chemical lab to manufacture and distribute mustard gas>ermmm you don't really own the means of productionlol
>>727668623This board has always been full of outcasts that include NEETs and people who are generally anti establishment but not hypersensitive and clutching their pearls over language and artistic expression. Newfags who came over from r/TheDonald are always under the impression that this board has always been neocons and manchildren larping as trad exclusively.
>>727665714Bourgeoisie? What is that a french hamburger? I'm just here to worship Dolores Dei!
>>727669485This but for me.
>>727669579Embarrassing attempt samefag.
>>727669539yesand christiano ronaldo is working class (he rents his body to capital, and they propfit from exploiting him)
>>727669614Delusional ex redditor.
>>727669615labor aristocracy is a thing, I would say celebs and sports stars fall under that, although really to be wealthy in this day in age you need to invest no matter what you do, i.e. own some capital.
>>727669660You claim, knowing the names of reddit boards.
>>727668623>People here used to be hustlers that had the will to grind to achieve their dreams
>>727665714I learned towards right libertarianism in high school, so I’m going to say no. Who aren’t human are the jeets and niggers populating our Western nations and those who insist on importing their slave labour.
>>727669746>those who insist on importing their slave labourWhich are the bourgeoisie, nowaday, so...
>>727669746>and those who insist on importing their slave labour.Hmm, I wonder which economic class wants as large of a reserve army of labor to draw from>a liberal college girl said you shouldn't light mexican immigrants on fire for fun though so really it's the left's fault
Fucks every straight man in Revachol except (You)
>>727669710Yes, everyone knows where you came from and how you shat up the board.
>>727669792It’s not the middle class doing it it’s the synagogue of satan as always. Communism was created by them to create more blood sacrifices to moloch
>>727669926Got shit to do so take my last pity (You) niggerfaggot.
>>727669858And what is stopping them from drawing from young Canadians? Our youth unemployment rate is 14%, and we certainly have enough high school retards to work a year or so at fast food goyslop? I see no contradiction here
>>727669919She'll also fuck the gay women, she's just here to get high and fucked by anybody not named Harrier DuBois.
Even the game outright proves nearly everything he says stems from jealousy and resentment and can't be taken at face value.
>>727669858>Communists and chuds can find common groundsure dude, if you wanted to remove all low IQ niggers from civilized countries, and were willing to be a decent citizen, and not do random pogrom, and not burn a random mall because you didn't get a check this month and riot, and not kill 5 millions in a random people in artificial famine, and not surgically remove the penis of children as young as 12, and not being a total weirdo retard, I'd support you.we have a lot of things in common, but i step my foot down on being a total retard, that's the difference i think between you and me
>>727669993I dunno, ask canadian zoomers why they aren't crossing the border to America to work as illegal farm hands for sub minimum wage
>>727669993Shut the fuck up Trumpanzee
>>727669002Don't be deceived.They noticed, and yet...
>>727670151Why would they want to work in the JewSA for 5 burgerbuxs when minimum wage in Canada is 17 Trudeaubucks? Fact of the matter is Trudeau imported this Punjabi caste of slave workers to work in the low wage jobs and this fucked over the actual working class of our country and our youth. >>727670156Trump is a kike, fuck him
>>727666863>pedophilia is ignored>word still gets used as an insult but toward the right evil people (guys that like guys)This is fucking stupid, why is every goddamn thread just religious and idpol garbage, who here plays videogames
>>727669442I'm sorry, someone tell Marx that we have achieved a classless society, because someone is running an underground liquor-distilling operation without paying taxes.>>727669578>Comparing something that doesn't harm anybody and can't be used to harm anybody to mustard gas
>>727670417>waaah waaah let me enjoy my goyslopReddit is that way
>>727665714I think you're just here to post pol garbage and aren't here to talk about the game at all.
>>727670464>>>/pol/This is the videogame board
>>727670453>my digital fanart of a gigantified sandy cheeks with a massive futa cock sucking up the institute of auschwitz through her foreskin isn't harming anyone
>>727670525Videogames are for redditors. We are going to talk about politics and you will be happy fascist pig
>>727665714>>You will soon realize that the [insert any group that is more successful than you] arent humanPowerlessness breeds bitterness, people like this guy are only upset they're the ones getting fucked, but if they had the chance he'd gladly and (perhaps obliviously to his own evil as the "burguoisie" he's accusing) be doing the fucking.It's a fuck or be fucked world bucko, rules of nature and all that, the whole "equality" thing is a utopian myth created to keep the masses quiescent but anyone over the age of 12 knows it's as real as Santa Klaus. If we stopped teaching kids equality this fairness that there would be a lot less bitter people who have come to expect this pie in the sky. There is no equality, there is no fairness, you have to carve your own path to make it, you swim and let the losers drown. Does it suck? Absolutely, but such is life, so get swimming
>>727670028What about Raphael Ambrosius Costeau?
>>727669919>I want to have fuck with you.
>>727670912Ayyo waz dis wyboi talmbout??
Calling...Calling...Calling...Calling...Still calling...-1 Damaged Morale
Rich people should be force fed into a meat grinder, yes.
>>727670912This is precisely the mindset you should be adopting if you want to make it in this fuck or be fucked world.I want to tell you this and want you to remember it well: no one will look out for you except yourself
>>727670567The Geneva convention sure seems to think so.The Berne convention on the other hand...
>>727671196>His parents don't love himSad!
>>727671281Oh yeah I somehow forgot about them, well they're the only exception then. Only familia matters
>>727665814Fuck no, hating the poor is easy. The amount of dick sucking being poor gets by commies is laughable.
>>727671187this but the homeless
>>727672052you're trying to shitpost but this is unironically true. nobody owes anyone anything. caring about something is a choice not an obligation.
For me, it was the racist guy (not the lorrydriver or the fag with the mug collection).
>"everyone should care about me" political shitpost frogposter is at it againcommunism failed. leftism is a joke. Trump won, twice. Hamas and Putin lost. get over it.
>>727672360this is also true.
>bourgeoisiewhat even is that and how the fuck do you pronounce that word
>>727672538Everyone that saved up more money than me.
>>727672286he is just a gcj schizo trying to fit in
>>727672538the concept doesnt make a ton of sense in the modern western world
>>727671614It's less laughable when you realize they're all poor.And poor, depressed people on a million mood stabilizers who are unhealthy, overweight and make $30k want to tell everyone else how society should ACTUALLY be ran.
>>727672538i just use it as a flagsimilar to tattoos, nose rings and in games, overuse of purple and teal colors
>>727669485>>727669654Sorry someone criticized a neoliberal billionaire or whatever set you off this time. Please don't shit up my thread with your narcissism.
>>727669858>A conservative podcaster said letting billionaires import infinity brown slave labor forever isn't good so we should shoot him in the throat.
>>727665714I would have taken this game seriously if they didn't censor the word 'faggot' in cuno's dialogue
>>727671187Even Bernie Sanders?
>>727673262i assume they also don't have the balls to have anyone say racist slurs?
>>727665714Well, yeah. That is why we rule over all of you and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>727665714i think upper middle class people are my favorite
>>727673421Most people on 4chan don't start spamming frogs because a Democrat position got criticized man. That's just your stuff.
To be honest, I don't actually care about anything Marx said or actual equality or any of that boring shit. I just want permission to kill people basically.
>>727665714If by bourgeoisie he meant whites then yes
>>727669002i just realized why his name is "measurehead" lmao
>>727666785Hello stoner
>>727665714if you're a commie, then maybe...
>>727666785
>>727673720snake venom you say
727666115727667129727673653>replying to your own post
>>727673720>>727673864Subtle as always
>>727673262Wasn't it uncensored before the "directors cut"? Might be wrong.
>>727668873investing isn't risky, the game is riggedI remember when robinhood literally fucking disabled buying gamestop stocks so the investment companies wouldn't be punished for overextending their shorts, i lost like two hundred dollars when all trends pointed up before that point. who was punished after the fact? nobody. and then we have the 2008 financial crisis, who was punished for the banks overextending on loans? normal people, not the banks.
>>727675543>I remember when robinhood literally fucking disabled buying gamestop stocks so the investment companies wouldn't be punished for overextending their shortsNot what happened.The way RobinHood works is you make a digital request for purchase, and THEY purchase stock with THEIR money, while they wait for the bank transacton from you to them (in the USA back then, maybe 24 hours or more).They saw a big volume of purchases of a very risky stock, and they just didn't have that amount of money, and couldn't find a bank to give them a loan for such risky purchases.Also if you lost money on a stock that went from $4 to $400 in under a year, you might be retarded.
>>727665714Maybe in the past.Nowadays, the extreme concentration of wealth means that even the bourgeoisie have been forced into economic slavery by the oligarchy.
I can't believe ZA/UM is going to get away with stealing the Disco Elysium IP. The game they're going to release is going to be a commercial success too, I bet.
>>727665814Humans are sacks of meat, every "poor" i know hates the bourgeoisie with a passion but would do the same shit if given the chance.We as a species need to find a different way to filter out the scum to burn on the stake.
>>727675804I doubt it. Everybody knows what happened.
>>727670093>nearly everything he says stems from jealousy and resentmentno, it's regret because he chickened out while foreign globohomo militaries invaded his home and murdered everyone he knew. that he's fucked in the head and lonely for living on an island with a sniper rifle for 50 years is just ancillary to his main issue
>>727674502It's uncensored once when Kim says it.
>>727675658maybe it's a bad example then, but there are plenty of instances where the government has colluded with big business to bail them out despite their own failures >Also if you lost money on a stock that went from $4 to $400 in under a year, you might be retarded.I got in at the last second, I didn't expect to make any money I just wanted to be along for the ride
>>727675947Nah, there plenty of thirdies who have no idea and they're going to be buying this game en masse. Even Leddit has already forgotten about it.
>>727676152Kim has the pass
>>727675804>Squid Games>Disco ElysiumIt keeps happening, she keeps being right
>>727676002No, there's definitely some resentment in there. The guy was a commissar, a political officer with the communist revolutionaries and kind of a bully. So when all his comrades charged ahead and died in their failed coup, he stayed behind because he's really just a huge chicken shit and later wrote a scathing critique about his own cowardice and how it was totally fine because at least 1 true believer still lived. Meanwhile the old man who fought for the crown managed to live to a ripe old age with friends and the respect of his community...and that made the old communist cunt even more bitter and hateful.
no one really is.humanity is a shared delusion. do dogs have a conception of dogmanity? of course not. our conception of humanity is simply a part of our existence and our existence is indistinguishable from that of any other animal.isn't it funny how people who get fucked by the system criticise it and how people who are rewarded by the system defend it? but they both want you to believe that they are *right* and not just acting in their own naked and transparent self-interest. how fucking coincidental.it's not like people don't know this. but people don't behave in a way that reflects that knowledge. why do we care what rich people think? they're not on our side. they're the enemy. just kill them and take their stuff. their words and meaningless, their promises are lies. they are pursuing their own self interest and they always will and it comes at your expense and any disagreement that you have about that and any affection that you have for them is a mindworm that their social aggression has infiltrated into your brain to render you less threatening to their power. your own thoughts are your enemy. stop thinking and just kill people.
>>727666785if you work for someone, you're a prole.if other people work for you, you're bourgeoise.>"but what about the CEO, he technically works for someone"i don't care.
>>727665714Man, I need to start training for the total civil war so I can at least take some leftists with me when I die.
Communists are broadly fine, but why do they always champion black and gay worship, and importing millions of shitskins? What does that have to do with seizing the means of production?
>>727676392>and kind of a bully.he was a child.
>>727665714If my memory of the game serves me well, the point of this character is that he's coping. He's coping about continuing the fight for communism, despite the fact it's long over and the union leadership is just a bunch of corrupt self-serving people who are only using the ideology as a means to an end. He's coping that the murders he committed were in service of something greater, but then it turns out it was just an excuse and he did what he did because of his own vices. For example he shot the main victim because he himself was an incel and was mad that the war-criminal abuse chad was fucking a hot babe while he wasted his whole life being celibate and hiding from the society.
>>727666560Nah, the "aristocracy" is still around, it just merged with the bourgeoisie for all intents and purposes.
>>727677310Those aren't commies, they're globohomo liberals (moralists) co-opting commie aesthetics to taint it by association with their faggotry.
>>727665714Reminder that he is literally(literally) the antichrist and every single describable quality he has is the opposite of Dolores Dei
>>727677310All of those are members of the proletariatIf we say "you can't join our workers' movement, straight white men only", guess whatWhole buncha jobs just opened up for gay black immigrantsOf course by characterising it as "worship" rather than recognition and inclusion you yourself are being prevented from joining together to begin with, which is precisely why the right frames it that way
>>7276782372/10 bait I replied
>>727678237Communism physically cannot exist with open borders, supply and demand does not stop existing just because you don't want it to be true
I cannot wait until robotics merges with AI and makes humans worthless. I wonder what shitshow will emerge then. Will be fun.
>>727678193dolores dei was a mass murderer
>>727678340>Communism physically cannot exist with open bordersOkay Joseph
>>727678663Prove it wrong
>>727666386lol it was "middle class" only because it was class standing between the nobles and the peasants, with lots of money (sometimes more than nobility) but none of the political power that came with nobility, some bourgeois could even buy a nobility titledefinitely not middle class as you'd define it nowadays, because the bourgeois class condition improved and they effectively became the ruling class when nobility and aristocracy was mostly abolished
>>727671614god i wish a poor girl would suck my dick
>>727678340>workers of the world unite
>>727678657So was Stalin, Mao and Hitler, and hundreds of thousands of people still worship them
>>727678701Okay, just give me a proletarian army to take over the world and I'll get right on that
>>727678657She was indirectly responsible for mass deaths, for the greater goodAnd Dros was an occasional murderer, for selfish reasons
unironically yesI try not to think about how much of my nice western developed standard of living and cheap commodities rely on a global underclass working for slave wages (if they're not literal slaves)it's pretty inhumane to accept this state of affairs
>>727678768>>727678775lol
>>727678663It was more of a Trotsky thing to get rid of borders. Kind of have to if you want a world wide revolution to happen. Coincidentally Stalin introduced him to the borders of existence and pushed him over it.
>>727678787A better world is not just possible but trivial to imagine with the productive powers at our disposal, and some people really just say "nah"
Marxist are bourgeoisie. All they talk about is shekels and production and labour output.
>>727666386Speak for yoursel. I always hated the middle class.
>>727679162Heinrich Marx (born Herschel HaLevi,[inconsistent] Yiddish: הירשל הלוי; 15 April 1777 – 10 May 1838) was a German lawyer who was the father of the communist philosopher Karl Marx, as well as seven other children, including Louise Juta.
>>727679282You know the Philips company? That guy was Marx's uncle.
>>727679282He was also very upset and disappointed that his son would throw away all his potential and privilege that his upbringing gave him to be a lazy layabout that would only ever write to ask for more money. His fathers letters to his shit for brains son are honestly kind of sad. You see a man honestly wondering what happened that made his son so mean spirited and hateful with a world that has been nothing but bountiful to him.
>>727679162I guess that makes atheists the Pope because all they talk about is gods
>>727668623>when did 4chan turn on the rich?When they realized the "I work from home for 600$ per year" lie didn't convince anyone anymore.
>>727666992Most faggots are "pozz my neghole" and underground bar orgy gay.
>>727679406It's doesn't because they critisize it while marxist want more secularization, more materialism, which are utterly bourgeois values.
>>727679712lmao
>>727665714Women are bourgeoisie
>>727679378>so mean spirited and hateful with a world that has been nothing but bountiful to him>Engels and Marx visiting factories>see shit like that>be angry at it>"nooo you can't be angry at this, because your family profited from other people's shitty condition so you should just accept it and not try to change anything"
>>727679162bonus points if they claim that having the latest iPhone in no way contradicts their marxist beliefs
>>727679821Ok but he was also an alcoholic and abused his kids.
>>727679701no
>>727666785>the working class is today as it was then - people with no productive property, who rent their bodies for moneybitch we ain't working 12 hours shifts just to buy some bread anymore, we fucking balling nowadaysjust admit it. immiseration did not take place.
Anyone richer than me is a nepobaby and anyone poorer than me is just lazy
>>727679821Marx mooched off of his cousin for the better part of the decade while writing his manifesto (he didn't have a job all the while)
>>727679914>ok but whatabout
>>727679903dis nigga thinks there can be ethical consumption under capitalism lmao
>>727665814Fpbp
>>727679986and who did his cousin mooched off of?
>>727671614the only reason they do it is because they think they can leverage the poor masses into a revolution.
>>727679986>He didn't even have a JOB, he just had someone PAY HIM so he could keep performing his labour!
>>727666386commies hate the middle class the most though.
>>727680049>NO Uthis is why communism failed and is only propagated by rich people
>>727679926>the incredibly small minority of the population responsible for over 50% of aids cases(a lot unreported) are akshually like you and me broThere is a reason you have evolved an inborn aversion towards homosexuality, acceptance of it is learned behaviour.
>>727680169your reality seems fascinating, wish I could live in denial toowould make my life so easy exploiting retarded fucks like you
>>727680369Cry to daddy Marx about it lmaoo
>>727680520I do, in my daily prayers to Him
>>727666386They are upper middle class>Landlords who don't maintain the property because the rent only covers the mortgage>Small business owners who exploit teenagers and lower class workers>Professional managerial class who enforce the worst working conditions like hiring only retarded people so no one can compete with them>Investor retards who look for 'hustles' to rob everyone below them pretending like they will become a billionaire doing it>Consultants who siphon money out of government and business to get a quick payday>Senior tradesmen who exploit the ever loving shit out of their apprentices to burn through them like a slave workforce>The cunts who charge you $12000 a year for 3 years so you can get a job that pays 65kThey are the useful idiots and crabs which keep people in the bucket.
>>727680520wow you got me, totally not proving yourself a retard once again
>>727665814I'm calling the based department on you.
>>727669385>>727669410You're splitting the atom. Marx used those terms to describe socioeconomic relationships as he viewed them back then. It would be impossible for him to predict modern digital economy and IP laws etc. It is still patently obvious that the relationships hold to a large extent and are worsening in many ways. Finding a unique word to describe every stratum of social order is meaningless and fails to address the core idea that the returns to capital should not accrue solely to the capital owners because that system will increase inequality and eliminate social mobility, ie the entire appeal of capitalism. There are ways to mend this using market driven policies that still fit within capitalist frameworks. Not everything has to be black and white (or retarded team sports politics).
>>727680635calm down, bitch
>>727666386Brevs the bourgeoisie is literally people who make their money through owning the means of production, employing others, and appropriating the surplus value generated by them. What you think of as the "middle class" might be the petit bourgeoisie, people who own limited capital and are required to provide a significant amount of the labour themselves.
>>727665714>main culprit is a commie>flashbacks of commies killing everyone so their ideology can work>it still failed>the plan of the socialist dock workers is simply gonna result in their death through military intervention as per shivers>most based character in the game (joyce) is a crazy librightconsidering the devs clearly like the auth left ideology they sure didn't hold back shitting on it and i respect that
>>727679818They weren't, Ignus. Not them.
>make most of your money by owning property or renting out the means of production like a landlord or factory ownerBourgeois>make most of your money by selling your labor like a factory worker or carpenter working for a firmProletariat.>Own your means of production but still have to work with them like, say, a hotdog cart ownerPetit bourgeois.
>>727665714>write a game about capitalists ruining literally everything and being untrustworthy despite their manners>is surprised when they get backstabbed by capitalistsare they retarded?
>>727681506How are they surprised by it and not simply angry?
>>727681282Introspection and self-critique are important parts of left-wing ideology.
>>727666119
>>727681609Introspection and self-critique are meaningless if you don't realize that communism is bad
>>727681828no it isn't.
>>727666386There's no middle class in the current day. Whatever remnants of it exist are getting slowly separated in the upper class and the underclass like a centrifuge spinning.
>>727681875it IS meaningful, though. You can't be introspective and a communist.
>>727666119What category of person can simply decide they don't want to have a job and then use a phone app to find someone who will gladly make sure they never have to see a 40 hour work week for the rest of their life?
What is the Marxist/socialist/communist consensus on hypnosis and mind control? Are there any major doctrines that condemn it as a tool of the bourgeoisie?
>>727681609But that leads to the realization that it's fucked(In any non-theoretical environment)
>>727681506What is Kurvitz’s deal? He seems like the only member of the dev team that isn’t visibly dying of being fat and retarded in every press appearance.
>>727681609Introspection and self-critiques on the left is usually limited to white guilt and privilege shaming, but only when there's people around to hear how virtuous you are for acknolwedging it
>>727681979marxists like mind control and hypnosis because sissification is predominately a leftist thing
>>727665714>literally calls out the jew>t-t-this game is gommunist!!!
>>727670262This. They cannot break the ingroup taboo or their conditioning.
I hate borgoisy so much I pirate all my games.Take that rich fat jews.
>>727667502Pic unrelated, I take it? Poser.
>>727682274https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentKnottyPeachAsianGlow>During the speech for their second win of the night, ZA/UM, the team behind Disco Elysium, gave a special thanks to Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, the authors of The Communist Manifesto>In this acceptance speech for the Fresh Indie Game Award, Helen Hendepere said that the team would like to thank “some of the great people that came before us.” The people they shouted out included the architects of communist thought, Marx and Engels, as well as Russian painter Vladimir Makovsky, and Viktor Tsoi, a Soviet singer and songwriter.>If you’ve played Disco Elysium, which features the vocal talents of the members of socialist podcast Chapo Trap House, you may not be surprised by these references. If not, I encourage you to read The Communist Manifesto, which is about how a ghost called “communism” is haunting Europe. It’s pretty radical.
>>727681828>>727682042>>727682217See, the right only likes to attack others with disingenuous comments. They do not introspect or critique themselves, because blaming others is always easier.
>>727681609And this will always be surface level when it can't actually reach the sole logical conclusion of the ideology
>>727682468>calls others disingenuous>can't admit that communism doesn't work and harms humanity
>>727682468How was I disingenuous? I just pointed out it's something that only works on paper, like world peace, because of the human element.
>>727682262Worth noting that the feminization fetish largely predates the transing phenomenon by about a decade.
>>727667502sorry, chud. read theory.https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/dr-bones-the-stirner-wasn-t-a-capitalist-you-fucking-idiot-cheat-sheet
>>727682468NTA, but I owe absolute dick to you and you are not entitled to criticize me or to see me criticize myself.
>>727676934Based
>>727669146that's where your communist shit belongs as well, just as a reminder. kill yourself.
>>727676934Back off, floozie.
>>727682340nooo not like this you have to support my ideologically captured industry plants or else you're a nazi
>>727681827rejection of hierarchies isnt a male thing either.its specifically a gay nerd thing.
>>727665714https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZTvpuN6vCsHis voice and theme are pure sex
>>727682465
>>727682925Leftists (and conservatives) hate nerds.
>>727665714For several years, we are fed the psyop that Disco Elysium isn't Commie propaganda even from normally right wing aligned people (to be fair, normalfags & groyper adjacent).
>>727682578Yes, I will call you disingenuous for your circular reasoning>>727682681You owe it to yourself
>>727683030lolits gay nerds all the way to the start with the marx and trotsky type.then chads like stalin bully them into the locker and rape their stupid ideas.
>>727683364Uncle Joe was based, thoughAsk the kulaks if he wasn't a leftist
>>727682593>because of the human elementyou guys like to bring that up but never explain why, according to you, that's an issue with communism or other political currents you dislike but not an issue with other political systemslike current age capitalism and corporatism breeds greed (human element), but somehow here it's not an issue and all is good in the best of worlds
>>727677310The ruling class have depoliticised economics by subverting the economic left with idpol.
>>727683509Because the current systems trick people into thinking they are important or can have an impact.The solution is of course some form of hybrid system like some european countries attempt to have, but that too, requires a lot convincing, even more money and a bunch of non-retarded people to maintain, so good luck on that.
>>727665814>doing the thing i do that comes naturally and easy to me is actually VERY difficult and also something the jedi wojak would do
>>727683167The reason I asked a few posts up about the leftist consensus on hypnosis/mind control is because it’s become very clear over the past however many years that leftists have it out for us, and that they’ve been smarmily buffeting us with premeditated moral issues, theory and abuse as a kind of smug revenge, as if to say “Look! We can control your minds too, you bourgeoisie freaks! I only needed to force your friends to read X amount of our books for them to turn on you!”, and I know your windbag schtick about self-reflection is an extension of that. I can’t attest to my friends’ perspectives on you (because I’m not a telepath (yet)), but, speaking for myself, I can completely bar the prospect of any self-improvement or self-reflection just to make absolutely sure you don’t get what you want, so you can look forward to me being even more of a vile sleazeball in the future, I guess.
>>727683509because it ties the human element directly to the government.
>>727683925>that leftists have it out for ushow many tranny hate gifs do you have on your computer?
>>727683925>speaking for myself, I can completely bar the prospect of any self-improvement or self-reflection just to make absolutely sure you don’t get what you want, so you can look forward to me being even more of a vile sleazeball in the future, I guess.Yes, well, I can assure you that if I possessed the secrets of mind control, that would not be happening, but have fun becoming a worse person and a net drain on society out of pure spite over being told that you don't have to be, I guess
>>727679821So we're ignoring the part where he didn't actually give a shit about any of those kids because one of those factories he "visited" was owned by his own friend. The friend that paid him to write his dumb bullshit. While also keeping a maid that he didn't pay, then got pregnant, then had the bastard child pawned off to Engels.That guy, somehow caring about other human beings is a stretch.
>>727680596Commies hate small business owners more than they hate megacorportations and they wonder why nobody likes them.
>>727665814No it doesn't you fucking retard. Poor people (stupid people) do it to themselves and deserve nothing but contempt.
>>727684018
>>727675858>AnatomaWhat's that?
>>727683956how?
>>727684054I wheezed out loud reading this. Thanks. I’ll make sure to give you a special spot in my human furniture menagerie for when I permanently freeze you.
>>727684018I don’t hate trannies at all.
>>727683028This is your only "argument", funnily enough, and it still never manages to invalidate the obvious truth of the developers being commie cocksuckers (like you). I know you probably get some kind of degenerate doublethink pleasure out of pretending something isn't real and at the same time venerating it, but you have to understand you just look like a fucking faggot to everyone else.>Yes, the game portrays rightwing and liberal thought as irredeemably ridiculous >Yes, the game has achievements that perfectly underline this on a meta-level >Oh but it said here maybe perhaps communism isn't perfect >totally impartial, you see? lol
>>727684380by giving it direct control over the economy :v
The system is broken and if you aren't abusing it you're doing it wrong. NEETmaxxing is the way.
>>727671614Hey now cmon anon. We commies advocate for the poor but are you seriously suggesting that we actually have to meet and talk to them!? That's a good one. We're too busy saving them from their own desires.
>>727684080Fuck small businesses and people who own them, though? Have you ever worked in a small firm before? They're evil demons.
>>727684482>abuse the system by being poor
>>727684557Who said anything about being poor? I have $300k and get paid $4k/mo to be a NEET lmao.
>>727684615>I have $300kfrom how many dead relatives?
>the revolution has fallen>the coalition are not my suzerain>I hate disco whores>billion must die
>>727665714People who think other peoples' things are or should be theirs to take aren't human. It's always been envy, not greed, primarily ruining the world. Though both coincide perfectly in both retard socialists and psycho "captains of industry".>>727666115>>727667129>>727673653Kamala lost, time to move to Europistan.
>>727684718None, my family was poor. I'm just not a fucking retard and buy Bitcoin and gold every week.
>>727666386You don't understand these things nearly as well as you think you do. If you were "middle class" in Victorian London that meant you were rich enough to not have to work at all, you were a gentleman. Society was comprised of a tiny proportion of aristocrats, like 10% in this gentlemanly class and everyone else was basically in absolute poverty working in factories and mines. Middle class in 2025 just means you aren't complete scum lmao.
So, is recommending this game to unwitting 'apolitical'/'demsoc' friends still a good way to help them start on their journey?
>>727684782you're acting like btc and gold have 100x'd in the last five years dude.
>>727684080>Thinks it is weird to hate the 25% who gatekeep for 0.2% of the populationAnon when you grow up and get a real job you will learn how much of a piece of shit your boss and middle managers are. Unless you are one of those losers who is living in purgatory until their parents die.
>>727684956Crazy concept but turning your depreciating dollars into appreciating assets increases wealth. This is why you're poor and seething that others are smarter than you with their money on a Mongolian tapestry weaving forum.
>>727666785I don't know how you can be so confidently wrong about this.
>>727669919>ends up in love with a lesbianBased.
Why do people make Disco Elysium to be this deep game when the message is quite simple? That killing right-wingers feels good and we should do it more.
>>727684908Nope. It's too exaggerated and subtle. They're unironically mentally retarded and stopped developing in kindergarten. It's why all their media is so preachy, hamfisted and unfunny. If it doesn't directly tell them how to think and what not to think they can't comprehend it.
>>727684865>tiny proportion of aristocrats, like 10%>everyone else was basically in absolute poverty working in factories and minesWhen you get all your info from leftist podcasts lmfao>Middle class in 2025 just means you aren't complete scumGood job simply restating his point, I guess
>>727685041my point is that theres no way you went from rags to 300k by investing in gold and btc.
can we please at least join hands in disco elysium threads and hate globohomo moralists, the real parasites on the world?
Pretty obvious that liking Dross means you're a bad person. Yes, that means you, SBI-employed 4chan jannie.If you think Dross is cool it's probably because you just hate people and think killing people randomly is cool.>deserted his squad and left them to die>spends all his time watching people live their lives and resenting them for it>insane murderous stalker>mentally insane from huffing stickbug juice>not even good at the singular thing he cares about>doesn't even kill his political enemy despite multiple chancesRemember when the commutrannies would post pictures of Senator Armstrong and say "you missed the point by idolizing him?"Yeah...>>727685140>he thinks 300k is some ungodly insane amountI can see why you're a communist.
>>727665714nohe thinks that being monstrous is not part of human naturehes a naive manchildgive men reason enough an they will turn into monsters no matter the creed
>>727685140>ragsI had a regular ass job for years and realized it wasn't worth it when you can make just as much money by investing
>>727684908What’s your opinion on autistic people?
>>727685186Too obvious redditchad. 3/10.
>>727685186>he thinks 300k is some ungodly insane amountyou've avoided the question three times now
>>727685169Communists always say that to get you to turn your back to them so they can stab you.>>727685202While being, himself, a monster.
>>727684469>Oh but it said here maybe perhaps communism isn't perfect>Like massacres or calling out people with $25 as richYour argument is disingenuous as shit, the only thing you could pin them with is being purposefully spineless by having all sides be a piss take.
>>727685215>I had a regular ass job for yearsok so you AREN'T neetbuxxing? im losing the plot
>>727665714No, they bourgeoisie are human. Them being human is precisely why they treat other humans like they do.Humans are all inherently selfish and evil. Virtue is the ability to rise above our true nature.
>>727682465>Viktor Tsoi, a Soviet singer and songwriterKino
>>727665814it's as easy as hating as dicksuckers like you, after all you are also poor. what takes courage is calling out the retards in the open, being a group of poorfags or the one rich jew behind that uses them as a meat shield
>>727685286Of course I'm NEETbuxxing. It's amazing you can't comprehend dropping out of society.
>>727685245Actually I just got here. I understand that at SBI you guys coordinate in teams to slide threads, but some of us actually ARE real users.
>>727678107Damn, didn't know Elon was a based globalist.Time for more H1B Indians, saars!
>>727685202this is why people form societies and laws, because they're so fricking monstrous they just need to live in peace along each other... they're so fricking frickety evil
>>727685186>If you think Dross is cool it's probably because you just hate people and think killing people randomly is cool.gigachad_whirrr.jpg
>>727680094Your mom giving you an allowance to keep jacking off and shitposting on /v/ is not a job, no matter how much you may delude yourself into believe otherwise.
>>727685246yes, self-rightousness is one of the most commons reasons for it>they deserve it when i do the same to themlike thatbeing pointlessly idealistic on humanity is as bad as being hopelessly cynicalwisdom is understanding everyone has their strugles and just cause theyre against you, doesnt mean theyre the villainsthats just how the world works, its not fair, but its what it is
Same person:NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST FIGHT A WAR AGAINST THE HECKIN' GAZANS YOU NEED TO LET THEM SHOOT AT YOU
>>727679945>we ballinDo you afford a mortgage on median salary?Does your wife raise the kids at home?
>>727685440by all means, shoot themdont try to play the good guy tho, youre still shooting the defenseless
>>727684782How fat are you?Has a woman ever willingly touched your dick?
non-whites are all evil and vile so they think white people must also be like that
>>727685286Poor anon. He forgot what he's trying to LARP about.
HAHA KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE CHUNGUS WUNGUS GAZAN SUBHUMANS YOU CAN'T DO THAT
>>727685523>non-whites are all evil and vilehow many tranny/nigger/woman hate pics do you have on your computer?
>>727685514Maybe don't start a war if you have no defences lmao. It's ok, nothing of value was lost, not nearly enough anyway.
>>727685424According to Marxian value theory of economics, it is and even if he produces absolutely nothing of value during that time he should still be paid for it. Because otherwise his labor is being exploited.
>>727685523It's also why they think all wealth is stolen, because they can't imagine getting anywhere in life without stealing.
>>727685515180 lbsYes
>>727665714>Take me to them as a prisoner of war. I have relinquished my weapon, I can no longer serve. No superiors can relieve me of my duty, you bulldozed them all to a mass grave for trying to free humanity..."Such a great fucking scene icl. I'm not even a commie, but the themes are great
>people with different skin color than me? Not human>people who have same skin color but do everything in power to make my life worse? HumanTrue Lumpenproletariat hours :)
>>727685726if you think race only goes as far as skin colour you're already too far gone
>>727685726I live in a highrise penthouse.
>>727685639doesnt matter who started ityou do the deed, youre judged accordinglyif you "had to do it" or not is irrelevantit doesnt absolve you of any crime, and youll be judged accordingly by others>not fairworld isnt fair>america does itand every other country calls them war mongers for itdeal with it or dont, just dont try to throw sand in our faceyou are not above anyone
>>727680784I'm calling the desperate samefag association on yo ass.
I'm judging the gazans pretty hard right now for parachuting into a music concert and taking a bunch of naive kids hostage then raping and killing them
>>727685747If you believe the bourgeoisie are good people, you are too far gone.>>727685763>fuck you got mineIm afraid You are the most Lumpen of Lumpenprol :C
>>727665714If by bourgeoise he means jews yes
>>727685851Some colonizing psychopaths who were high on drugs got killed partying next to their colonisees Nah I dont care. In fact I hope Oct 7 happened 10x over.
>>727685851>being an unironic MIGAtatd
>>727685905the goyim are not even human
>>727685905I don't think you're good at all. I think you're retarded.
>>727685523i don't think this is true, i think the financial pressure of modernity fries their brains, puts them in panic mode, and makes them violent schizophrenicsremember that these people spent the majority of their genetic lineage living in extremely simple environments with abundant resources thanks to the nature of their regionsthen the suddenly get thrust into slavery/globalist financial systems and are expected to adapt? that doesn't workit'd be like an alien abducting a human, placing them in 3,000 IQ alien school, and then calling the poor human evil when its incapable mind crumbles under the pressurethe societal structure built by west europeans is simply incompatible with non-west europeans, even high IQ asians and jews struggle, west european industrialism and civil etiquette is unmatched and incapable of being adapted by other genetic culturesslavery was a mistakeglobalism is a mistakepeople with different genetic compositions are not meant to exist together in a uniquely stringent intuitively-developed high trust social conditionthey are meant to be picking fruits and throwing spears in the jungles, or farming wheat or rice in patches of arrogated soil along desert rivers or flat plains in asianot living amongst western european social requirementsit does not workrabbits in a dog pen
>>727685956Okay then I totally support dropping as many bombs on Gazan hospitals as possible. In fact, they should target maternity wards, specifically.
>>7276857264chan chuds see themselves as the aristocracy.See their resentment for the french revolution.
>>727685940Still retarded.>a Jewish person in power who fucks my life over? EVIL>a white person who fucks my life over? Well he’s actually fine because he’s whiteThis is why racialism is so retarded and why reactionaries have to be dealt with violently. Its a pro bourgeois ideology.
>>727685251No, retard, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. For communism, they put in these little, funny, tongue-in-cheek examples of characters obviously misunderstanding what it's all about. Like that dumb but goodhearted friend everyone knows. Something the educated comrade -- savvy in theory! -- can have a hearty chuckle about. Meanwhile, all political alternatives to communism are presented throughout as basically stupid or flat-out evil, starting with the very idea of them. The only one disingenuous here is you, denying this obvious fact.I know what you are.
>>727685515I get that you're upset you think you missed out on Bitcoin and gold but guess what: You're still early. But based on your response you'll just continue to be a nocoiner retard and seethe at some other Anon 5 years from now for having bought.
>>727677310those arent commies lmao
>>727685726>>727685905>twittershit fotm vocaloidRevealing your cards too early, better luck next time
>>727686083Some people desire their slavery for they think it frees them from the burden of free will.Goys will be goys, I guess.
>>727686036watch out, hes gonna say this is what he voted for
>>727685968You dont think. Youre a reactionary. You only react.Pick up a book before your ideology results in something tragic, like something in your neck, not that I would ever support that of course>>727686024It must upset you to see colonialism victims fight back huh? Dont worry, theres plenty more where that came from :3>>727686031Good point. The arrogance of lumpenproles is something that needs to be studied
>>727686206I'd call you a bot but a bot wouldn't be this incoherent.
>>727686209You've never actually fought back. You guys are literally retards. Your entire strategy is 1. indiscriminate terrorism2. hold your own civilians hostage and place them in high value target areas so they get killed3. cry on twitterThe only ones genocidng the Gazans are Hamas. But hey, the people voted for them, so you know.Got what you voted for award.
>>727685186Nobody thinks he's cool. That's part of Disco Elysium charm, but also its curse - no character in the game is likeable enough to choose as a sole embodiment of your values or even just because they're cool, everyone is more or less flawed or outirght pathetic. Except for Kim, but ironically he's a filthy moralist. However, when there's no likeable character the game itself becomes one, that's why all DE fans are insufferable left liberals
>random anon sperging out about palestine in a thread about the bourgeoisie Hmm
>>727680243>>the incredibly small minority of the population responsible for over 50% of aids cases(a lot unreported) are akshually like you and me broMore than 50% of AIDS in the USA is in hetero black women, so no.
>>727686209>barely veiled death threatsAh yes, the height of leftist argumentation. Might does make right after all, does it? Which is why you understand that all violent reaction to your ilk is always justified, of course. I can only hope that you will all get a serving of what you wish unto others.
>>727681882nice mantra, but the opposite is truethere arent poor people today in the usa or europe, and the people you call poor are lower middle class
>>727686209You're wasting your time trying to educate chuds. They're the most politically lost and braindead people possible. They blame everything they don't like on "the left" (a broad term ranging from marx to a blue haired feminist that triggers them on twitter) and any exogroup they don't belong in.
>>727686554I accept your concession.
His hatred of the bourgeois wasn't wrong he just consistently chose the worst option at every opportunity though which simply makes him just a pitiful coward
>>727686051>Writes all this head canon>Nuh uh you are disingenuous>I know what you areGet meds you inbred retard
>>727685851yeah the worlds most guarded border with the worlds greatest intelligence service just happened to be AFK just as the giant attack by flip flop wearers from a microscopic controlled territorry happed and it just happened to target a giant festival full of happy beautiful young foreigners which just happened to be relocated to just outside the border wallmad innit
>>727686791It was wrong in the sense that what even is the bourgioesie in Disco Elysium.Obviously the objective answer is the Moralintern but on a smaller scale there are so many other characters that fit that description. Evrart is literally a communist stereotype of a "fat cat" but he calls himself a communist. The Hardy Boys are just a gang with all that comes with it. The college students are "committed" socialists but clearly despise labor which is partially why they're inframaterialists/Posadists
>>727686854Yeah, just like 9/11
>>727686697Violence against reactionaries is pretty easy to justify yes sir. Why would this upset you? Unless, oh no, you are a reactionary?>>727686747Sadly true. The only way a chud can beeducated is within the confines of a reasonably sized re-education camp :(
>>727669002wtfi thought he was samoan or something
>>727686854So you're admitting that Hamas works for Israel?>>727687000Trotsky got thrown out and exiled by his own party, lmao.
>>727686749nobody cool says this.
>>727687141I agree, I stole it from SBI employees.
>>727668445He did something wrong: didn't shoot her.
>>727686834>No argument>ad homsFigures. Glad to see I was right all along.
>>727687079>So you're admitting that Hamas works for Israel?no, but they're definitely infiltrated and eavesdropped on. that both parties wanted oct 7th to happen is like when two armies cirle each other and both decide to fight at some point, because they both think they have a shot at winning. i call it an open door attack, as opposed to a false flag attack
>>727687318So you're admitting that they actually did plan a terrorist attack?
>>727670924You are not Raphael Ambrosius Costeau. You are not an icebreaker. You are an officer of the law, investigating a murder.
>>727687452yeah lol, and the israelis deserved it (not that the baby decapitation shit happened)
>>727676369Which "she"? The apricot-scented ex-something?
>suddenly, IsraelThere is quite literally no valid reason for defending Israel unless you're jewish yourself or you're a neocon getting hefty bribes from AIPAC.
>>727687731Ah, I gotchu, I gotchu, moishe. Shalom. False flag as one of the retarded brown monkeys whose lies are so paper thin that they get mad and resort to threats they can't make good on, so that everyone else realizes that Gazans deserve everything they get.I understand the program. I'll be quiet now.
>>727687767Go away, naz/pol/shevik.
>>727688089>nooo you can't make kidnapping raids on the foreign invaders who stole your country from you and hold thousands of your countrymen in indefinite detentioni don't like arabs but the palestinians have every right to do what they do, their only sin was killing thai guest workers and other unaffiliateds
>>727688491>bring 40,000 men>80,000 die
>>727675858You think that the rich are angels who do no wrong?
>>727688558>his dark mode inverts the images toolaugh at this tech illiterate
>>727685216>I don't have one. I'm not autistic.
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>>727670028She didn't fuck Ruby though, much to her chagrin, just led the carpet muncher on because it benefitted her
>>727685726this but unironically
>>727685726Epstein didn't make my video games gay and lame.
>>727666386>w-w-we're just like you!!!eat shit and die
>>727691690Right, the proletariat aren't even human.
>>727684774>still falling for Reagan propagandathat's just embarrassing
The proletariat have to be oppressed for their own good. Everyone knows what the French Revolution is, we know what happens when left to your own devices. The first thing you do after taking power is immediately start killing each other.
>>727675858We once had a peak form of social structure, it was called tribal. Everything from that point onward has just been a rube goldberg kikening of convolution in order to keep those being exploited further from those who exploit them.
What a surprise, the nigger wants to return to monkey. Who could have seen that coming?
>>727692480Reagan didn't invent the concept of trade or personal property rights, hysterical troon.
>>727666119>Drive most of the spending>OBSESSED with appearances -> Conspicuous Consumption>Feel entitled to men's laborYes
>>727692771The tribe would have exiled you and left you to starve for stealing food, not doing work, and generally exploiting them.
>>727689234Nah, she fucked Ruby. Ruby just didn't get a relationship out of it, so she started simping.
>>727692593Robespierre was NOT proletariat. Are you retarded?
>>727665814kek'd
>>727693624Oh yeah, I forgot. It was all Robespierre. Nobody else. He did it all. He's the one that arrested people, he was the one that guarded the jail, and he was the one that pulled the guillotine. All him. Amazing how Super Saiyan he was that he was able to defeat the entire population of France by himself.
>>727666210a proletaire is someone who only owns one mean to make money, their body. so what you described fits that perfectly and women are in fact proletariat
>iOS posters>commie rhetoric>melted brain twitch enjoyers>twisting bygone diction with modern terminologyhopeless thread
>>727673645Oh my god
>>727689116I believe this is a photoshop, I can tell since seen I have seen quite a few shops in my time.
>>727668873That money you gain by "buying risk" comes from value produced by the proletariat and stolen from them by capitalists. In theory.
>>727665714So /v/, which tribe do you belong to?
>>727665714Yes if gommunism :DD was actually possible it'd be great
>>727696497I don't follow dev drama. I'll tell you which tribe I'm on if they ever release any games
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>>727692593The French Revolution was a bourgeois revolution. The Reign if Terror was perpetrated by the ones ruling us now.
>>727696497I just pick whatever gives the best stats
>>727665714I dont think I can call Pether Thiel a human at this point.
>>727665714Wasn't that line in Neuromancer
>>727698762>OMG it's just like my genre fiction slop
>>727698425The communists? I agree.
>>727665714>commissar pencil pusher>the very first second he got put on the frontline he pissed himself and ran away>once he learns the last la fascismo he wanted to kill but was a pussy to do it died from a heart attack he fucking goes suicidal>has a cuckrage moment over his twitch streamer fucking a merc>his mind rotted from bug pheromones>his ideology literally causing the world's aids to spread even faster
>>727695873I also believe that this is a mannequin
>>727665714>>727665814The irony is that the bourgeoisie have been funding all commie/leftwing revolutions against aristocrats. "BUT MADURO AND FIDEL!", they don't give a shit about maduro and fidel, they're dysgenic fuck easily controllable by their lower instincts, it's the aristocrats they truly fear.
The problem now is that there are too many poor people that don't die due to advances in medical technology. I don't want to associate with either side of this despicable struggle. Hellfire cleanse us
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>>727687072It's more obvious in his original art before they moved to a more stylized option for portraits.
>>727668623>People here used to be hustlers that had the will to grind to achieve their dreamsOne of the first threads I read on this site was in 2006 and it was about a man hosting a thread about being on the Kentucky sex offender registry for loudly yelling "GOTTA GO PEE" while pissing out of his apartment window every morning and a soccer mom with her kids seeing it one day.
>>727699147Communism is best understood as a manufactured justification for regency.In the past, Regency was justified mostly by martial prowess, secondarily by Divine Right (propaganda), but somewhere within the 500 years something started where all the natural aristocrats slowly started disappearing over time, and the managerial/merchant class filled their positions. Now they're attempting to hold onto those positions for dear life, and part of that is to justify their taking of the crown to the dregs of society with communism.
>>727675858I wouldnt. I constantly think about if I was super wealthy I would buy things for everyone I know, build things in my community (and state/country if super rich). I would love to have money to make tons of people's lives better. But the problem is 99% of wealthy people are either born into it and have never known suffering, or did evil corrupting things to achieve it and now frown upon humanity.
>>727700536>I constantly think about if I was super wealthy I would buy things for everyone I knowScratch the rest of what you just said, you're now everyone's money spigot. You'll be broke within the year and when the money runs out you will never be forgiven.
>>727700629Of course that's assuming they don't just try to kill you first, have you committed, or any of the various other fates that have befallen numerous lottery winners.
>>727665714>t. bourgeoisie game dev
>>727666386They're not called useful idiots for nothingThese people genuinely are this retarded
>>727665814killing the bottom quintile of any country would 100% improve it massively
>>727701265Post the image of all the twitterers who wanna be therapists or OF whores in a communist state
The bourgeoisie are the middle class you fucking mongs.
>>727701534the middle class now excludes people making less than $100k annually unless you live in the middle of nowhere
>>727686051>he's still repeating this retarded and objectively incorrect talking point all these years laterHope you kill yourself soon!>muh ad homYou're not even a man. Kill yourself!
The working class is not effected by wealth transfers, they are virtually immune to when the market fails. It's the middle class that always gets fucked by the market. The middle class uses the working class to do their revolutionary labour for them and try to antagonize the "rich" along with them because their wealth class will always get absorbed when market volatility happens. >>727701676Middle class does not mean the average person.
Getting a university degree and getting a white collar job was the ticket into the bourgeoisie if you come from a working class background. Education was/is the social ladder in a liberal-oriented society.
>>727701676Rich starts at $400k solvent.
>>727666386Nice try googling moronGommies use the "(in Marxist contexts) the capitalist class who own most of society's wealth and means of production." definition which is right underneath that oneThis is like level zero internet politics slapfighting and you can't hack it
>>727700536This assumes you just have infinite money rather than it being rooted in anything that requires a chain of management to flow. You might as well say you have superpowers.
>>727700536This is literally why anyone who gets even a little bit of money in African villages hides it immediately. If anyone knows they have it, it is immediately taken away by friends, family, etc.
>>727688595"You think the poor are angels that do no wrong?"
>>727702406That is quite literally the middle class post-industrial revolution.
>>727702109...until everyone starts striving for higher education because the job markets demands it, forcing people to get a PhD just to shovel shit like in the entirety of Asia
>>727702882More importantly, no one wants to do a trade anymore and you have to import browns to fix your toilets
Trump is a kike golem and actively working to replace whites in America, migatards are beyond retarded, they're insane.
>>727703003the immigrant question always leads back to the twentieth century... niggas never learn...
>>727682468>See, the right only likes to attack others with disingenuous commentsI sincerely hope you get raped by blacks and trannies the next time you go out. Actually even a white man raping you would be nice.
>>727688595what fucking psychosis do you have that you interpreted his statement >Humans are sacks of meat, every "poor" i know hates the bourgeoisie with a passion but would do the same shit if given the chance.as>the rich are angels who do no wrongyou literally have psychosis. you fucking hallucinated words that he didn't write.
>>727685726Kasane Teto denounced the jews. Stop misusing her for your trannoid purposes
>>727686051this, I remember noticing this while playing the game. I was disappointed because I was hoping everyone would get lampooned like a Friar's Club Roast, but it was clear the devs were simping for muh utopia on the downlow
>>727686051>Meanwhile, all political alternatives to communism are presented throughout as basically stupid or flat-out eviljust like real life lol
