Well, which way /v/?
>>727673179they are all shit souls slop is shit shit combatshit controlsshit camerapiss easy
>>727673298Fippy Bippy
>>727673298This
>>727673179Sekiro Parries and Poise + Elden Ring's Maps, Enemies, and Difficulty + Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen's movement, physics, climbing mechanics, and perfect blocks would be the best game of all time
Neither.>>727673298fpbp
>>727673298>>727673345>>727673360Souls fatigue's at an all time high I see.
>>727673298Holy based.
>>727673492Damn, FIFA is always innovating and pushing the boundaries of gameplay, difficulty, and exploration just like Fromsoft? Might be time to pick it up then. I had no idea FIFA was that kino
>>727673402Take my upvote, good sir!
None.
>>727673592I'm 100% serious. I like Sekiro, Dragon's Dogma, and Elden Ring, and I think a game that could merge the best mechanics from each of them would be a 10/10 masterpiece
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>>727673402I don't understand why you want Sekiro parries and DD perfect blocksAren't those the same thing
>>727673635Yaaas! That would be so hecking EPIC!I also hope they add light sabers!
>>727673298FPBP. I kneel.
>>727673179Undefeated, unmatched. Every lesson taken, either by Miyazaki or his competitors, has been the wrong one. Take me back to comfy loner exploration where you are up against the world with good boss fights scattered throughout. Don't give me rollslop cranking up the difficulty until the game systems can barely take anymore.
>>727673298100% trvth nvke and correct post>>727673402troon coded post
I'm team darksouls 1/2/3 against elden shit.
>>727673298Best post in a long while.
>>727673694The problem is that the boss fights AREN'T good anymore once you stop being scared of them and know you can just circlestrafeProof: Dark Souls 2 bosses are easy as fuck if you played 1 before
>>727673674>I don't understand why you want Sekiro parries and DD perfect blocksMy vision would be perfect blocks for shields, Dark Souls style parries with bucklers, and sekiro parries for people who are running katana, greatswords, longswords etc. without a shield in their offhand.But to answer your question about the differences between the two: Dragon's Dogma perfect blocks are built around perfectly timing your shield blocks to "counter" your opponent's blows and push them back. It doesn't knock them over, but it staggers them back like a mini shield bash. Consecutive shield blocks in rapid succession lower the enemy's poise enough that they become unsteady enough to knock down with a followup melee attack. If your shield is weak or too low qualitywise, then instead of your perfect blocks pushing the enemy back, you are instead pushed back (granted you take no damage). It's still worth perfect blocking in these scenarios because a perfect block will let you block a normally unblockable melee attack with your weaker shields.Sekiro's parries are fairly similar, but far more punishing. Consecutive parries aren't going to knock the enemy down, and it takes far more consecutive parries to set an enemy up for a critical strike. But once you do get that critical strike, you can generally instakill trash enemies and grievously injure bosses. In a game that had both Perfect Blocks and Sekiro parries, I would envision the perfect blocks as the "safe", high level defensive option for tank and knight style characters. While the Sekiro parries would be high risk, high reward
>>727673179I don't get it. Why is it divided like this? My favorite is Dark Souls 2 and other than that I only played the games on the left.
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>>727673845The fights aren't hard but I wouldn't say they aren't good (Bed of Chaos is obviously horrendous). There's a middle ground to be had and for all people talk about DaS3 bosses they really aren't that good until you get to the very end of the game and into the DLC's. I don't think you have to do much more to DaS1 & 3's bosses to take them to a nice difficulty level that don't require tons of time over engineering. These bosses could then be placed in a world much better designed than those following 1.
why do /v/ hate From now?these games used to be /v/ core
>>727674116SotE unveiled how shitty these games really are. We just have been tricked by years of eceleb shilling that they're ever good in the first place. MathewMattosis was right about this slop series years before Elden Ring exposed how cheap they look and feel.
>>727674116Ignore shitposters. They're not here to actually discuss games.
>>727673298/thread
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>>727674178>"the fun i had was fake! i was tricked into having it! ill never forgive From!"do contrarian autists really?i enjoyed sekiro the most, then bloodborne, then demon souls then dark souls then the rest
>>727673179>Steaming pile of shit vs other steaming pile of shitidk
>>727674116sharty trollsreal /v/ love From software
>>727673179Why did you move Demon souls and dark souls 2 from Souls series?It's exactly the same as those.Only Sekiro and maybe Bloodborne (but that's debatable) are different
The great debate.
>Souls games and souls-like games are now considered "reddit">/v/ jerks off every low effort turn based JRPG slop like its the second coming of ChristTheres a point in being a contrarian where you just turn into a complete retard and I think /v/ reached it even 10 years ago when they praised Skyrim like its some fucking masterpiece. That is the epitome of a reddit game and yet /v/ is drooling all over it even today.
>>727674746>randomly seethes about JRPGs in an action game thread
idk why should i decide one against another because i enjoyed all of them a lotplayed demon's souls for the first time 2 months ago and it was lovely
>>727674775I currently dont see a combat system that is much better and more engaging than soulslike one. But even if for the sake of argument we say that Nioh is one good example of a better combat system, /v/ NPC's will still call it reddit.This board is full of JRPG and gacha playing trannoids. No wonder they hate action games.
>>727674746Soulsslop has been considered Reddit for almost 10 years. People were tired of it then and more so now.
>>727674925>YEAH BUT JRPGS?!?!?Jesus christ man what is wrong with your brain
>>727674116First games were great. More and more they have focused on the wrong things and imo lost their way. There's a million different things you could point to but it's the culmination of all of them which result in the issues. I would say the biggest problem is the focus on bosses and pushing them to their absolute limit.
>>727674925Dragon's Dogma and most action games have better combat systems. Even Rebirth found a way to break the souls mold that has been plaguing this industry by having more fluid combat and better animations than any soulsborne game.
>>727675036>the gameplay is better because... the animations are different
>>727674925its very simple mathpopular = redditunpopular = soulpopular + waifu = all time classic
>>727673179Wouldn't the logical grouping be DS3-Sekiro-ER? They're the ones with good bosses.
>>727673179Left and it isn't even close. Elden Ring alone is the best game ever created. Dark Souls 1 alone is better than anything on the right. DS3 is way better than Demon's Souls and DS2.
They're all garbage. Black Souls made this series irrelevant and actually has a story to make me care. Zanzibart storytelling is gay and poorly written trite slurpped up by normalfags.
>>727674925These are souls games not action games thobeitever.
>>727675036good combat system barely means anything when the game itself is piss easy and the enemy/boss variety is shit and the gear system is fucking trash.Oh but you can ride on the dragon so it's le heckin kino
>>727675384It's a power fantasy. Something you soulscucks will never understand as you're chihuahuas nipping at a giant's feet for hours.
>>727673179Elden and Sekiro for meEverything else is antiquated garbage
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>>727675036>Dragon's Dogma
None. Since they put me to sleep on how boring the gameplay is. Doesn't help that the story isn't there to keep me engaged. Sekiro's story is terrible.
>>727673553lol
>>727675036Anon, I love Dragons Dogma (1) more than most people but the combat system other than enemy climbing and perfect blocks is complete dogshit and don't even get me started on the stat building.
>>727675710>fell for the YOU HAVE TO BE A MAGE FOR 199 LEVELS IF YOU WANT TO BE EFFECTIVE meme>that's the game's fault somehow
>>727675741No actually, it would actually be better if it were only that simple.
>>727673298Faggot
>>727675710>but the combat system other than enemy climbing and perfect blocks is complete dogshitNah, the animation cancelling is cool, and so is the knockdown system. For example you can bait a orge into hurting themself by climbing on their back. The orge will try to crush you by slamming it's back on the ground, but if you leap off at the last second, the orge will hurt itself instead. Alternatively, you could run up to a standing orge and leap onto one of their legs while they're stomping around. If one of their legs is in the air when you do this, they'll become unsteady, and enough followup attacks will knock them to the ground.Each enemy has multiple ways to take them down. A flying dragon can have their tail struck, which will instantly bring them down and leave them on the ground withering in pain. A fighter standing face to face with a Dragon can punish them with perfect blocks and hindsight slash until they're poise broken, and then follow up with a Dragon's Maw or Antler toss to knock them straight to the ground.Enemies also have multiple unique reactions to the various moves you throw a them. For example, a fighter that uses a heavy attack or guard break on an orge with their guard up, will send the orge staggering backwards. Consecutive perfect blocks followed up with a even a light attack can knock a chimera to the ground.Beyond that, enemies also have a variety of elemental and physical weaknesses. Saurian for example can be frozen solid, lit a flame and then set running, or you can chop their tails off, which will leave them rolling around on the ground in pain.There's a lot from Dragon's Dogma that the gaming industry could learn from.
brown coded alphoomer thread. go back to playing shart raiders you babies, souls games aren't for those lacking in faustian spirit
>>727675710>don't even get me started on the stat building.Exploiting elemental and physical weaknesses will help you break the damage thresholds. If you still can't break them, then there are items you can stack 4x times to exponentially (Conqueror's / Demon's Periapt) increase your stats enough to easily tear through any enemy in the game.
>>727675231/thread
>>727675231>shilling
come home, white man
>>727673179>five shitty games and sekiroI guess right wins
>>727673402regular sekiro would be way better than this gay bullshit. openslop is trash by design
>>727673179retarded comparisonthe only good things on here are dark souls.
>>727677983The open world gives you more land to explore and more enemies to fight
>>727678186>open worlds pads the game to hell and back, destroys the pacing and gives you repetitive chores to doftfy
>>727674116I'm guessing some eceleb started talking about them so now the hivemind has switched gearssame thing happened with New Vegas and MGR, both of which were beloved by /v/ for years
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