Is there a game out there that actually deserves a perfect score?
>>727682359no
>>727682359Last of Us 2
>>727682441It is indeed a 10, out of 100.
>>727682359Tetris
>>727682471Its the perfect game
>>727682359Warcraft 3.
>>727682571For a clown to play.
>>727682471Not according to real gamers.
Kirby air riders.
>>727682359SNEAK KING
>>727682359Civilization 4, 100% timeless game.
>>727682517This and Pong
>>727682359Fortnite
>>727682359No. There should be a grade that is listed as one of the potential scores, but never given. No work should be called "perfect", it does a disservice to the creator and the consumer. The former would be told they can never making anything like it and will ruin the artist strive. The latter would be lead to believe they will never need any other game than this, then feel fooled when the outlet just months later declare another game "perfect." Perfection is unachievable, and that what makes it so entice to reach, something to always work toward.
>>727682359I think Portal 2 is perfect 10 and generally kind of quality bar every developer should strive for. It's example of fully developed concept where each element seamlessly blends into another and contributes to a vision.
>>727682359Yeah, Digimon World 2.
TimeSplitters 2Look at the game content, only Future Perfect has surpassed it.
>>727682359outer wilds
Yes, One Must Fall 2097
ocarina of time and mario 64
>>727683362>retard
hl2
>>727682359Halo combat evolved
>>727682359>Sonic 3 and Knuckles>Metal Slug 3>Megaman Zero 3>Fight N Rage>Gunstar Heroes In the end there is no such thing as a 10/10. I just think these come close
>>727682359Shadowrun: Dragonfall
>>727682571Good bait. LOU2 is a 2/10 at best (le grafics)
I really consider a actual perfect game MUST comply with these FIVE rules:1. must be playable in many devices2. must not have any sort of adult content and has no Rule-34 fandom3. no microtransactions, Ads and any sort of scams4. Has no hateful content to a country (except north korea because shit is NOT getting into there)5. good pricing and good developers
>>727682359Vanilla WoW circa 2004.
I would not change one thing
>>727684734>must be playable in many devices>must not have any sort of adult content and has no Rule-34 fandom>Has no hateful content to a country (except north korea because shit is NOT getting into there)I'll take the bait, why in the world are these criteria required for a perfect game?
>>727682359Resident Evil 4 and that is IT
>>727682359if any game deserves the title of best 10/10 game ever made, that would most definitely be Elden Ring.
>>727682359Breath of the Wild
>>727682359Dragon Age OriginsNFS most wantedPortal 1&2
>>727683876agreed tbqh, one of the best sequels ever made too
>>727682359BetrisTetris attack
Dragons Dogma
>>727682359The one I've been developing in my head for the past few years
>>727684734this fits everything but #1 I believehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1634860/Minishoot_Adventures/
Rocket League
>>727682359perfect ludo kinostoryfags btfo
>>727682359Noita is the perfect example of the ideal game.>fully intractable environment with no exceptions>complete freedom to exploit and encouragement to do so>difficulty high enough to demand effort, but low enough to breeze through with skill>narrative exists with depth and breadth without being self important or the focus of gameplay>plethora of secrets>seeded/procedural generation done rightIts so refreshing to play a game that doesnt make you feel cheap for reading a wiki entry or studying secrets and locations. Using "buggy" interactions and features doesnt feel like bug abuse, instead adding to the feeling of mastery over the game. Some call it wiki slop. But this is wiki peak.
>>727682696Unironically probably the closest to a perfect game.
>>727686434>2. must not have any sort of adult content and has no Rule-34 fandom
Games I like are 10/10 because I like them and if I like them they must be masterpieces.
>>727686661based and same
>>727682359death stranding
Factorio>>727684250This
>>727682359
>>727682763real gamers don't waste their time on sites like metacritic
>>727686681>sameYou wish nerd. Games you like are 0/10 trash. Unless they are the same ones that I like.
>>727686661>>727687245I really like minecraft. Its a game ive played thousands of hours of both modded and vanilla. But it isnt 10/10. Its not even an 8/10 if you are above the age of 20 and employed. Acknowledging the metrics that can be used to measure a games score out of 10, means abandoning your opinion. If you cannot do that, you are bellow the bar and should save oxygen for the rest of humanity.
>>727685231I agree, it improved heavily on the original game.
if it comes to performance story, artstyle and gameplay, then its mgs2, art style can be argued with.
>>727687519gameplay and story can be argued, too. it's dogshit
>>727682359Outer Wilds and its DLC
>>727687469it ruined survival horror for two decades. the story is simple. but back then when it came out it was 10/10 hindsight it has done real damage to horror genre that where 3d vertical maze like level design crown holders. something like metroid prime and dark souls dipped back to it but what happened to them... elden ring and metroid prime 4, resident evil 7 was great, but item management was not that good. re8 starting to sift wrong way, resident evil still kinda knows what it should be because they already did the wrong path experiment with 4-6 but we see after 9.
>>727682359mass effect 2
>>727682359Yes, a whole bunch
>>727687680story is one of the best, gameplay is really solid. go on make your point if you want argue.
>>7276826962 is better
>>727687986yes, but which ones?name like 3 of them
>>727682763>the real gamers gave it a crisp 95 while the chud army watched helplessly
warcraft 3 is pretty much perfect with tft
>>727687146>>727687897le reddit army is here xD
>>727685320Night reign is better and all they did was make it friendslop
>>727682359Easy
Expedition 33.
Age of empires 2. I can think of a dozen other games that are amazing but tend to have a "that part" in them as if they needed to be balanced out for being too good.
>>727682359Mega man x
>>727685320elden ring is fucking epitome of whats wrong with modern games, elden ring did it best way as possible and tried to have part of the best worlds, but it sacrificed lot still, falt open world and set pieces, all you need to do is compare world of dark souls and world of elden ring to see it. same thing with metroid prime and metroid prime 4.
>>727682359not your favorite game certainly
>>727688716megamans are great, they are open without being open world, demon souls did it too. dark souls and bloodborne did it seamlessly sacrificing bit of early game options but wrapping it in one coherent world, sekiro does it too but with less options.
Why is Dragon Age Origins so buggy with memory leaks on windows 11?
>>727682359Kirby Air Riders
>>727682359pragmatabioshock 2tlouout of sightetc.there are many games
it should be based on genre>Character actionGod hand>Action rpgDark souls>open world meleeElden ring>open world shooterRDR2>action adventureMajora mask>jrpgFFX>WrpgBG3>stealthMGS2/Hitman blood money>action horrorRE4>Survival horrorSH2
>>727682359Age of Empires 2Portal 2
>>727682359Yes, my favorite game. Your favorite game, on the other hand, deserves a 0/10.What a stupid fucking thread, kill yourself OP.
>>727689154God hand isn't even a real game.You see it in polls and lists,but never any gameplay or anything other than the cover.It's not real
>>727689374well duh it's only on ps2 and wasn't popular so obviously you wouldn't see lots of people playing it
>>727689269its not about fucking taste, people can have shit taste, its about facts. few games get all things perfect.
>>727682359EraTohoKEraTohoTWEraMegaten
>>727682359yakuza 0 and gta san andreas
>>727682359Factorio
>>727685231Agreed. I struggle to come up with any game that surpasses the quality of RE4. If any game deserves the label of masterpiece or flawless it would be that game. The only misstep is the island section at the end and the change of pacing it causes.>>727686434Way too many levels. The definition of quantity over quality.>>727689102Bioware pushed the PC version out the door with little testing compared to the console release. The Awakening expansion is up there with one of the buggiest things I've ever played.
>>727688132>journos are real gamerssomeone post the cuphead tutorial clip
Ninja Blade or Eternal Ring, the best games Fromsoft has ever made
>>727682359No, I have shit taste, so no games deserve a perfect score.
Dark souls 1 and The last of us 1
>>727682359Jurassic Park on Game Gear.
>>727690186it does action horror best way possible but compared to survival horror that is origin of the series it does not, all areas are simplified, no verticality, no mazes, no item management.
>>727689727There is no such thing as objective facts when talking about quality of video games. The closest thing to one is grafix, and even then the smarter half of the board will tell you that art direction is way more important than detailing, yet none of them will ever agree on what "objectively good art direction" is.This thread was created for the sole purpose of baiting morons into screaming how their favorite is better than everyone else's and I called the faggot OP out on it.
>>727682359mushihimesama
>>727690551its about artistic vision and following it trough game design. cruelty squad is great because it does what it aims to do. graphics and artstyle aside
>>727682517Wrong. Bad graphics, bad story and it was incepted by communists
not Outer Wilds lmao
silent hill 2 with camera angles like that, could it have done combat better even they aimed for combat that dosent feel reliable? yes propably but its enough, their focus was elsewhere, therefore its not perfect even its, near perfect with story, artstyle, and performance.
>>727682359Yes
>>727690969>walking sim garbageFuck you.
>>727689154>>action adventure>Majora mask
There is no such thing as a perfect game that pleases everyone. But a game can offer everything it sets out to offer.
>>727684406HL2 Episode 2 for me was near perfect>>727684467Nice list.>>727687971For what it tries to be, I agree, I was blown away by the depth of it.>>727683876Played the first one. I shall try out the second
>>727691574not at all, its like saying resident evil is walking sim, enemies dosent pose so big of a threat and you dont have to fight so much but, world itself breaths the threat in your mind, thats why silent hills where genious, dark souls does that too but with focused on combat and not sacrificing anything from threat of the world, only thing its sacrificing is performance and typical rpg interaction moments with npcs. but less can feel more and that is the case with dark souls npc. they all have their own journeys in the world and it can be felt.
>>727691964everybody dont have to be pleased, its about pleasing those who understand something about games.
>>727684316Fucking based>>727686291Ultra based>>727689231Super based>>727682359Obviously civilization 2, heroes of might and magic 3, diablo, zoombinis, and unreal tournament 99
>>727683003the micro management in the modern era is tedious and lacking, so no, not a perfect 10 (but close)
>>727692153That's more or less what I mean.A person during their education (school, profession, anything) can receive the highest marks during their lifetime. However, this does not guarantee that they will be prepared for everything that will happen when applying this knowledge. Even so, it would be considered perfect in some way.A game only needs to satisfy all the requirements demanded of it at the time it was released.In short, a game needs to be better and correct the flaws that its predecessors had.Over time, a game that was once considered 10/10 would become obsolete and would not meet the standards that more modern games would be subject to. Hence the need to be in its time context.
>>727682359id say it's relative to what came before it, and how it changes things moving forwardif a game completely changes how games are made for the better I would call it a 10, but also delivers an out of this world experience on its ownthe game that hits these marks for me the most would be FF7
Skyrim>>727688470This
Stop thinking of a 10 as "perfect"Start thinking of it as getting a 100 on a written exam / piece of work in a Science or English course.In that sense yes, many games deserve 10s and rightfully get them, and some 10s are better than othet 10s.
>>727682359Xenoblade X DE, it's the perfect game
For me its Ghost TrickI replay it every 3 years or so
>>727684845FUCK I will go listen to the ost now
>>727682359Either Kirby Super Star or Kid Icarus Uprising desu
>>727682359Suck and Fuck Kingdom
10/10 writing10/10 gameplay10/10 characters10/10 music10/10 art design10/10 replayability
>>727682359Pro Evolution Soccer 6
The most recent 10 I've played is E33The first 10 I ever played was sonic 2The game where I absolutely knew while playing it that it was a 10/10 perfect experience was Super Metroid
Jet Set Radio Future.
>>727694393>10/10 replayabilityI love Ghost trick but cmon bro
E33 and SH2i'm not even a storyfag
A game can't be good or bad, only better or worse than other games, since a game being good is completely subjective. Now, how do we know if a game is better than another one, if taste is subjective? Simple, if more people liked one game, then that game is better.Then, the perfect game should be the one that everyone likes. But what if there are two games that everyone likes? Do we have two perfect games? The answer is no, people can like two games but still prefer one over the other. So the perfect game must be everyone's favorite game. It's theoretically possible, but statistically impossible.
>>727683876This, it is one of the greatest games ever
>>727694435>PES 6That would be Winning Eleven 2007 for Anons on the correct side of the Atlantic.
>>727684734>no gameplay whatsoeverr u stupid
>>727682359>Ratchet DeadlockedThis is my 10/10 third person shooter experience. It doesn't try to be anything more than a sick as hell arena style carnage simulator. Start up a new game, set that difficulty to the max, and go balls out!!! I will never not love this game.But seriously, the weapon selection is extremely purposeful. Yes, there is letter than prior games, but every weapon here does AT LEAST one thing well. Slap on an elemental enhancement and customize the shit out of alpha mods and you have a game that never plays the same way twice. I remember seeing a comment on this board calling it the original Doom Eternal and I can't think of a more apt description.
>>727695885Forgot the goddamn pic. But seriously, 10/10.Gangsta style is the only way to fire your dual raptors.
>>727682359Dishonored 1 actually
>>727682359a perfect score doesn't mean the game is perfect, it just means that it's the best in class for video games.
Tetris
>>727682359Super Mario 64. Deus Ex. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. Metal Gear Solid.
>>727682359Dead rising is the only all-around 10/10. Every other game can only be perfect within a nicheYIIK is 10/10 in cringekinoKatana Zero is 10/10 as a Never Ever, sharing the spot with Barkley 2Dark Souls 2 is 10/10 if you want to start a fightAnd so forth!
>>727684734>chatgpt, write a retarded comment for me
>>727682359tetris
>>727682359Yes it does.
>>727696386>>727696471>>727696872wholesome reddit poggers!
>>727682359There are tons. I would argue tons of puzzle games should get it. Why not? They are simple games that set out to do what they do perfectly. The puzzle game genre has to be the most easy to perfect genres in all of gaming. But there are other games in genres not puzzle that I think also deserve perfect scores. I would give games like Ultimate Doom, Doom II, and the first Spyro on PS1 perfect scores. I cannot find a single fault with any of these amazing games. I find Super Mario Maker 2 to also be pretty much flawless or at least as close to flawless as you can get. What really is there to not warrant a 10/10 for SMM2? I can't think of anything besides some nitpicks about what should have been included is all. Mike Tyson's Punch Out is another perfect game. It is iconic for a reason. Its very fun and has no real flaws. Super memorable with great music.This idea that games cannot be perfect is a laughably retarded one whoever were the idiots to say this. Truth is there are tons of games that are perfect.
>>727697080>chud hates the fact that the only perfect video game was made by communistsWomp womp lumpenprole
>>727697124>This idea that games cannot be perfect is a laughably retarded oneIt's all semantics
>>727682359Unironically, no. The premise of 10/10 as we know it now is completely flawed. It implies a level of objectivity that is simply not actually attainable because nothing out there is perfect. So as a public metric, it's basically meaningless. However, on a personal level, I think a 10/10 can exist because then it implies that you love something so much that, regardless of it flaws, it simply left a lasting impact on you personally. But for the sake of informing the average joe, it's meaningless. There are games I think are 10/10 that I would probably rate lower objectively for the uninitiated.
>>727682696this in terms of legacy.
>>727695720>>727694435Great choice regardless of the name.
>>727682359dead space 2, resident evil 4, dragon quest 5, pizza tower, dkc 1, re remake, system shock 2, uncharted 2, oot, ff6, hotline Miami, portal 2, half life 1 , Simpsons hit and run,
>>727682359Objectively no, subjectively might.
>>727682359Yes, because 10/10 is not "a perfect experience", but "a supernal experience". Supernal experiences do not need to be perfect; perfect experiences do not exist. Otherwise you have a scale that never actually uses its capstone, which is inelegant.For me, Inscryption is a 10/10; it is not without flaws, but it was an experience without rival.
>>727696756 Peak post, anon. Dead Rising really is the Swiss army knife of 10/10s-jank, ingenuity, charm, and pure psychosis baked into one of the most replayable sandboxes ever made. Frank West is a cultural pillar at this point.And you're right, the specialty 10/10s category is criminally underappreciated. I'd throw in God Hand as a 10/10 for masocore PS2 brawlers, Cooking Mama as 10/10 momcore, and Big Rigs as 10/10 in anti-game energy. Nothing hits like your truck escaping the bounds of reality at 12,000 MPH reverse.We're grading vibes now, not just frames per second, lads.
>>727689154Imagine being this much of a retarded npc generic faggot
>>727682359Outer Wilds
>>727682359Lemmings. It's the european game industry's best work.
>>727682441>I LOVE MY SNOY MOVIE
>>727687597We have a winner. Super Metroid also comes very close to being 10/10 which is incredible considering when it was made.
Witcher 3Diablo 2Assassin's Creed 2Mr Bean's Wacky World
>>727689640I don't like talking about lost technology
>>727682359Kenshi
>>727682359when its fully developed, easily reentry a space simulator
>>727685231Nah RE4 it’s good but 8/10 at best.
>>727682359Sure. F-Zero GX is a perfect game, so is RE4.
>>727690186Nah you’re huffing your own farts. RE4 is good but not that good. Good thing I only browse this site when I’m taking a shit because reading your shit opinions is fitting
Elden Ringin many ways feels like the ultimate game. There are some things I would like to see more of like better NPC interaction and more involved story, but it’s not that kind of game so it’s still 10/10 for what it does.
>>727689154KOTOR is quite a bit better than Big Gay 3
>>727682359KCD2 - obviously...
>>727702331>>727702310RE4 is the game that everyone online pretends to enjoy more than they really do because they want to fit in with gay people
>>727682359My favorite game is GoW Ragnarok. But it has it's flaws so I don't think a 10/10 could be objectively true. I would go with OG Re4. Not only did this game revolutionize the entire medium, it created a genre of Action Horror, and it was never surpassed as the King of the genre. Then it gets remade nearly 20 years later, and the remake is at the very least, the 2nd Runner-Up. What other game does that for a whole genre?It's like Dragon Ball, when I see criticism online about it, I can't even take it seriously. It's literally nitpicking from fans. Except Re4 gets even less criticism than DBZ. There's other games out there that are probably better, but they don't reign as King of a popular genre for so damn long.
>>727682359Nuclear Throne. Just got an update for its 10th anniversary, by the way.
my 10/10 in terms of gameplay and replayability is cyberpunk 2077.
>>727702018I love Kenshi, and I'm about to play it right now, but this is an objectively incorrect answer.
>>727694393I still have yet to see a gameplay webm of thisit's in so many people's top charts but I've never seen a proper discussion about it once
>>727704005It's an adventure game akin to Phoenix Wright, but the gameplay sections are different. Honestly I'm not sure how to describe them, kind of a escape the room point and click but timed?I think the game is slightly overrated around here, still love it myself though.
>>727682359Gta5 and HL: Alyx are the only ones I can think of.
Final Fantasy V
>>727690874Objectively Outer Wilds yesEvery element in the game works harmoniously towards the wholeThe music, the mechanics, the story, the gameplay loop itselfIt's perfect, and will never be replicated
>>727682359Ultrakill is my personal 10/10 game.If only its fanbase wasn't so dogshit.
>>727682359Original demon's souls
>>727690393explain
>>727705427what mod is this?
>>727689154All garbage
>>727688470Most overrated piece of shit I've ever played goddamn
>>727682359Metroid Prime 4
>>727683003bad music/visuals/UI
>>727683876drags on for too long, and all the cubic kilometer sized rooms get old fast
>>727682359Final Fantasy IXYoshi's IslandThat's it.
>>727682359Castlevania SotN
>>727682359Pac-Man CE DX deserves the 10/10 IGN gave it.
>>727682359RDR2, Portal 2, Team Fortress 2, Skyrim, GTA San |Andreas
>>727682359Expedition 33
>>727709774>bad musicWhat game are you talking about faggot?
>>727682359Deus Ex, maybe one other game.
>>727682359ratings should be evenly distributed. 1/10 games should get a 1, 1/10 games should get a 10/ etc.
>>727686661Same
>>727703781>objectively incorrect answerNot a real thing when talking about game quality, especially on here.
>>727682359Hyper Demon is close
>>727690848The guy who made it is an anti-communist and he lives in the US now
>>727682359dishonored (only the first one to be clear)
>>727683876portal 2 has aged really poorly because of its proto-millenial humor. People won't be willing to give it a fair score.I thought it was like an 8/10 when it released, there were some annoying source spaghetti issues and some of the puzzles had gay solutions but it was excellent overall despite that. But not a 10/10 imo.
>>727682359ocarina of timesplatoon 2dota 2
>>727683876this, portal 2 never wears out its welcome and still looks decent despite the passage of time
One of these ten:1. Dark Souls2. Deus Ex3. Doom4. Thief: The Dark Project5. Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis6. Wing Commander7. Ocarina of Time8. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain9. Hitman: Blood Money10. Half-Life 2
>>727717881The /v/ poster, throwing old classics to fit + some contrarian opinions to feel special
>>727718610Are you able to comprehend why his list is wrong?
>>727682359the only perfect games are 6/10.
>>727717881Most of those have significant flaws that stop them being 10/10.Fuck me man Dark Souls has unfinished areas and bosses that even the devs consider poor.
>>727689102Because while playing the game a program called Windows 11 is running in the background
>>727706471It's just a perfect action platformer, good graphics and sound, the atmosphere's just right for the IP, level design allows for a lot of exploration without it being overwhelming to the point of getting lost, and the controls are perfect, with a lot of mobility, but nothing too crazy, just intuitive and free. If you like the IP, or action platformers, give this a shot.
>>727682359No game is perfect.The highest score should not be considered perfect.10s should be given to excellent games with very few flaws.There are plenty of those.
THPS2
street fighter 2 arcade versionnoitasmb3/worldsonic 1/3need for speed most wanteddevil may cry 3doommgs1ff7tekken 3mario 64ooc/majora's maskre4sotc
>>727682359Half Life 2 VR
>>727682359Dark Souls _
>>72768336210/10 does not mean something is perfect or without flaws. The scoring system is a way to quickly show how much you enjoyed something. 10/10 only means two things better than 9/10 and the highest amount someone can go in the scoring system. There is no limit on enjoyment in real life so the system gives in a 10/10.
>>727682359Ragnarok Online.
>>727682359Ocarina of Time is a perfect game
>>727683362You sound like my boss every time I rated myself 5/5 on a performance review
>>727682359Left 4 Dead SWAT 4Resident Evil 4GTA4 (i like games with 4 in the title)Yakuza 0Kingdom Come Deliverance 1Max Payne 1The Ship (sadly died before its genre took off)
>>727687998>gameplay is really solidMetal gear solid, even
>>727688141This. There's a great campaign, fun multiplayer, ungodly amount of variety of custom maps, fantastic custom campaigns, the list goes on. Also inspired new genres, and without it WoW wouldn't have been the success it became. It's an extremely influential game and it's still worth coming back to. Also for some reason, its map engine is so extremely diverse with there even being FPS maps like Sharpshooter, and plenty of third person stuff too. I remember even finding some maps that attempted fighting game and rhythm stuff. Obviously SC2 kind of had the deeper engine when it came to stuff like that, but WC3 is still has the better hero system.
>>727682359Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Elden Ring
A 10/10 shouldn't mean truly flawless, but instead the strongest possible recommendation. A 10 should be a game you believe that everybody should play regardless of genre preferences, whereas a 9 is a must-play for genre fans and a great time for most but skippable if it's completely outside your wheelhouse. Plenty of games could be unmissable but have some sort of objective problem somewhere.Personally I'd say Rez is a 10/10. I love rail shooters but even if you don't, Rez should still be something you give a shot. Other rail shooters like Star Fox 64, Sin & Punishment, etc. have stronger overall level design and more involved mechanics but Rez is just something else.
>>727683876I wholeheartedly disagree. Portal 2 mechanically builds on 1, but to me it falls short of 1. I think the emphasis on narrative design instead of the tight puzzle room focused gameplay is what does it for me. Its an excellent game, 8/10 is what I'd give it. Portal 1 just was a much tighter designed game that really nailed the concept. The story was never shoved in your face and slowing down the gameplay. It was just cool puzzle after another, and if you stopped to take in the environment youd find an interesting story and world.
>>727726512Sekiro is probably a perfect 10, I can't really think of a weakness that game has. Maybe the lack of additional weapon unlocks? 9.7/10
>>727729452The shitty monotonous flute music, 9/10
an overall 10? who knows, maybe OoT or something from back in the day that really stood alone at the time. my personal 10 is bloodborne. there are things that could be better (framerate, some vanilla boss fights are weak) the setting, the story, the aesthetic, the lore, the music, the pacing, the systems like rally and insight, it all just convalesces into a pure 10/10 amazing experience for me.
>>727682359Kingdom Hearts 2
>>727684845this anon gets it
I'd argue Melee honestly
>>727682359Cave Story
>>727682763All botted.
>>727682359Yes, I'd rate plenty of games as 10. I also use the 10 as a holistic score and not a retarded "10 means there is not a single perceivable flaw in the game" score.
>>727682359No a 10 is a benchmark. Nothing reaches perfection. To have a game get a 9 makes it closer to a masterpiece.
Hitman: Blood MoneyVampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines (unfinished and still has about 1,000x the amount of worldbuilding that other finished RPGs do not have)Age of Empires 2Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped
>>727683912>Digimon WorldSure.>2You sick, demented fuck.
TLOU Part I
>>727702619I've played RE4 and the remake for around 200 hours each. I genuinely love RE4 and you're gay.
>>727682359eiyuden
>>727724532Except for the characters being paper thin, the soundtrack, the braindead puzzles, the shitty hub world, the simplistic combat that can be mashed through, and the repetitive nature of each dungeon, sure.
I don't think there's a single game that I'd say, "I wouldn't change a thing." The ones that came close to it (it's important to judge them by the time of their release and not after) are Half-Life 2, Metal Slug 3, Chrono Trigger, TWEWY, Warcraft 3 and Mario Odyssey, but even in those, there are some things that I could change for the better.
>>727683876based portal 2 poster and was scrolling looking for it itt. after i beat it i knew in that moment it was a 10
>>727731289Adding to that Left 4 Dead, TLOU, GoW3 and RE4.
>>727682359Baldur's Gate 3
>>727731548If they had managed to make RTwP work then I'd give them a 10. They took the easy way.
>>727731289I think Mario Odyssey is only seen as that quality of the game because of the playerbase, I mean the story is significantly weaker than Galaxy, Cappy is great but he's wasted on the worlds. I wished I was on that penguin bowl paradise island in Galaxy and throwing my cap around there but it seemed cheaper to me and the ending cinematic didn't feel very Mario-like.
>>727682359My wifes game ( mostly because of the soundtrack )
>>727683876>>727729242I agree with both of these takes.Realistically I wouldn't be upset with people calling either one a 10/10.
>>727731656Judging Mario for its story is like judging TLOU for its platforming.C'mon, anon, you can't judge a game using parameters that are outside its intended design.Another reason there can't be a 10/10 game is because people can't really be trusted to judge them objectively.
>>727731650>They took the easy way.By making a combat system that isn't shit?
>>727731656>I mean the story is significantly weaker than GalaxyI like Galaxy more than Odyssey, but people nostalgiafag into thinking Galaxy actually has a story wayyy too much. Yeah the book is great, but that doesn't really count. The ending cutscene is crazy, but it's not really GOOD.Also unpopular opinion, Starship Mario is a much better hub than the Observatory. The Observatory just looks kinda cool.
>>727731650This. Turn-based is the most foolproof system to design for. If Larian had actually stepped up and tried to make a real sequel to BG2, they should've gone with RTwP.>>727732062It is shit anon. People would rather stack a thousand barrels in their inventory than to suffer the slog that is BG3 combat.By the time people leave the first act most are already sick of it.
>>727695885>>727695980Sounds cool I never got into these games. How's the latest one with the white girl?
>>727731959I mean it in a Mario-way where the worldbuilding and the hubs are telling the story, Galaxy is just more Mario to me.>>727732073I don't think Galaxy is that much better, but I still rate it as more memorable, in Odyssey the worlds just don't feel that immersive.
For me personally, at least recently, Returnal. It just stuck with me. It's a super fun game, very fast paced, the gameplay is hard at times but still fun and once you get the hang of it and understand each biome it's a ton of fun sprinting through each one and finding all the upgrades / parasites you want for your run. The layout changes each time but the rooms stay familiar, and honestly the regular enemies you encounter can be far more challenging to deal with than the bosses, once you learn the bosses it's very hard to die to them unless you just got very unlucky with your build on a run. I just loved the atmosphere and the world in general, the story was intriguing even if it's one of those "it's all in her head" stories.I'm looking forward to Saaros.
>>727732062There's a RTwP mod for BG3 and of course it's not fully functional because it's well, a mod.But I bet that if you choose the tutorial fight in BG3 and put then side-by-side most would agree that the TB one looks like shit compared to the RTwP one.
>>727682359Viewtiful JoeYou can not deny it
>>727682359Resident Evil 4
>>727732827And RTWP always plays like shit.
>>727733249It can play better than TB and I can prove that objectively.
Age of Empires II
>>727705427The proper remake
>>727733336>and I can prove that objectively.No you can't. What you can do is give an example that consists of a low level, thoughtless encounter that ignores any real strategy and pretend that autoattack speed is all that matters.
>>727705725Amazing game its in my top 10 but no
>Great gameplay>Great story>Great pacing>Great graphics>Great soundtrack>Great voice acting>Great multiplayerThis is the perfect video game, and it'll never happen again. The closest runner up would probably be Halo 2 or 3
>>727730197Absolutely not. It's a great game but it's too buggy and unbalanced to be a 10/10.
>>727722980Holy based, played that last march and it ruined all other VR for me. And a lot of regular flat gamesPlay with the Unleashed mod, dual wielding crow bars or 1 crow bar and another weapon is the coolest I've ever felt in a game
10/10 games either define their genre or become the outstanding pinnacle of it. It doesn't and shouldn't mean perfection. It is a fine line between pushing a genre to the limit and being entirely derivative however.
Yoshi's Island
>>727683003basado
>>727682359Kings bounty: armored princess
>>727733730A lot of Smash players say this with every game; "it's so well balanced compared to all those other fighting games." and then there's a thousand tier-list videos with 10 of the characters listed under 'unplayable' and everyone is just playing 5 characters, isn't Melee like 95% fox vs. fox
>>727732381It's a fun experience. Much closer to the traditional formula of the Ratchet and Clank games. Just an all around please third person shooting platformer with some light world exploration. All of which are great, but Ratchet Deadlocked man...it's the bee's knees. And in addition to jerking the gameplay off, I gotta give it up to having a very straighforward satirical story with some bite and two of the best announcers ever to grace gaming. Let's give it up to Dallas and Juanita!!!
>>727733459There's no auto-attack speed in older infinity-engine cRPGs or modern Pathfinders, they still use turns but simultaneously, you didn't know that? And you want to debate about something you don't even understand properly?Let me make it "easy" for you anon, since you're implying that somehow TB has more strategy that RTwP then what strategy you can do in TB that you can't in RTwP?Answer that and you win.Good luck.
>>727733637desu the ending is a disappointment, the entire lost city angle with the blue furries and that shitty final boss fight kind of ruin it
>>727734443S-Tier: Fox, Marth, Jigglypuff, FalcoA-Tier: Sheik Captain Falcon, PeachAnything below these tiers is generally considered non-viable. But playing against a Fox as anybody but Fox himself, is absolutely miserable.
>>727734696I know the playerbase isn't 'the game', and I assume you're right, but I was mostly talking about how Smash Ultimate is just abandoned. They released the DLC characters and didn't even bother to fix the bottom 10. And if you're playing against friends who have working brains, they are going to exploit the weaknesses in those characters to the point of the game feeling obviously flawed.
>>727734494You dislike TB because you find it boring.He dislikes RTwP because he doesn't have the ability to play it properly.You two are not the same.
>>727685231I was going to say this but some of the escort missions with Ashley are a bit of a drag. It's more like a 9.8
>>727734627All these years I never understood the complaints about the Lazarevic fightFelt like a Crash Bandicoot battle where you gotta run, jump and shoot the explosives at the correct time, it was fitting for the gameplayMuch better than the boring qte fights from the other games endings
>>727682359The only game that comes to mind is Chrono Trigger. Haven't played it in a while but from everything I remember it is a flawless masterpiece from beginning to end. I cannot think of a single thing I don't like about the game.A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Donkey Kong Country 1 & 2 also come to mind.As for modern games, Resident Evil 7 and Resident Evil 2 Remake are also pretty much flawless except for being a bit short if that counts as a flaw.
>>727733637It's up there for sure. Not sure I'd say it's perfect but it's one of the best games I have ever played.
>>727735258it is just annoying on the hardest difficulty
>>727732763Dogshit garbage that has zero respect for the player's time. I said fuck it and never touched it again after getting like an hour into it and dying in some bullshit room and being forced to restart from the beginning. 10/10 means perfection, not some piece of junk that hates the player and makes you ragequit.
>>727682359Of course, it's <that game you really like>
That's hard to answer.There are games that got 10/10 and deserved them at the time.Few actually are worth that high a rating with age.Half Life 2 deserved its praise at the time but has not aged well enough to still be a 10.
>>727735629Sounds like you needed to git gud but were bad. The game is piss easy once you get past the first boss in the first biome, sorry there wasn't an easy mode 4u
>>727683876>>727716650I absolutely despise millenial humor with all my heart but I still get a kick out of portal 2's humor because it's actually fucking done well instead of being shit.
>>727682359Kid Icarus Uprising
>>727734494>There's no auto-attack speed in older infinity-engine cRPGsYou know very well that I was referring to the fact that you'll pretend a battle consisting of nothing but attacks against trash mobs goes faster because in RTWP everyone attacks at once.>you didn't know that? And you want to debate about something you don't even understand properly?Shut the fuck up, you dumb nigger. Here's a webm I made from my own gameplay to show why tard wrangling party members in RTWP gameplay sucks.>then what strategy you can do in TB that you can't in RTwP?Okay, ESLmonkey. In turn based you can actually plan out all of your party's movements and take them into account when setting traps or maneuvering around enemies. In RTWP, you can't.>B-But you can pause so it's the same!No it's not. Even if you want to be enough of a faggot to pretend that mashing pause achieves the same effect, you can't control your party AI's horrible pathfinding. Most of the time you end up turning it off so they don't walk into your web spell or something. God forbid you want to use a lightning bolt indoors in BG1 or 2. It simply doesn't work with RTWP.
>>727735551True
>>727734952>He dislikes RTwP because he doesn't have the ability to play it properly.I can, I just find it boring because instead of coming up with clever strategies, all you do is cheese the fundamentally broken system. How much of a retarded cum drinking niggerfaggot do you have to be to pretend people can't handle RTWP as opposed to just not liking the dogshit encounter design it results in?
>>727736436>You know very well that I was referring to the fact that you'll pretend a battle consisting of nothing but attacks against trash mobsNo.>a battle consisting of nothing but attacks against trash mobs Ok, so taking this battle, that YOU bought as an example, in RTwP you'd have all enemies AAing simultaneously, and on TB you'd have to click->aa>see animation>>enemy turn>>see animation and then repeat that for 5 more minutes.That's better for TB how?You just provided an example that proves that RTwP is better in concept than TB.>In turn based you can actually plan out all of your party's movements and take them into account when setting traps or maneuvering around enemies. In RTWP, you can't.You keep proving yourself too ignorant to debate this. In RTwP you can QUEU actions, you can KITE.If your point is:>planning actions >maneuvering enemies.Then this debate is over, you lose! Good day sir.>>727736507Yes, because you admitted that you can't even control your own party, you don't plan ahead, you let them walk all over and blame the AI, why are you complaining about turning them off?Skill issue, not memeing.Let me guess, your next reply will be:>But muh faggot>But muh nigger>But muh grammar mistake>But muh I drink cumIf it wasn't for the screens you'd be throwing feces at me.
>>727682359only one.
>>727682696Delayed for a year just to rip off everything from battle realms. Very disappointing game.Custom maps saved it. Not blizz shit.
>>727737709>No.Yes, you lying faggot.>That's better for TB how?That's the only scenario where you can make any argument for RTWP, and even then games shouldn't be full of trash mob fights.>You keep proving yourself too ignorant to debate this.Pretending I haven't played RTWP games doesn't mean shit when I'm posting webms of my own gameplay. Stop being a faggot and pretending I'm not aware of things so you can act like you have a point. Queuing up actions doesn't mean shit because you need to change things on the fly. Turn based works on a turn by turn basis, so you don't need to change a list of commands. Everything happens as you input it. Queuing up actions is worthless for any fight that isn't braindead because you need to adapt to changing situation.>Then this debate is over, you lose! Good day sir.No, you dumb redditor. Your only argument is to strawman about me not understanding RTWP mechanics despite me actually posting gameplay. Executing a plan based on queued up actions doesn't work, and kiting is such a garbage mechanic that you've completely undermined yourself by trying to paint it as a point in RTWP's favor.>Yes, because you admitted that you can't even control your own party, you don't plan ahead, you let them walk all over and blame the AI,Oh I think I see the problem. You're a shitposting faggot arguing about games you don't play. Explain how you can control the character in a situation like the webm I posted to avoid the fire and prevent his pathing from walking into the fire. I already brought up the horrible "strategy" of turning off their AI or constantly pausing to input a new command. If you can't backup your statement that controling their pathing is a skill issue, then you admit you never had an argument and you lose. Objectively. You can have a reply if you answer that question directly without lying, otherwise we're done.
>>727738582>Yes, you lying faggot.No.>That's the only scenario where you can make any argument for RTWP,Here's a fight with a boss, no trash mobs no "only auto attack", real positioning with a clear and simple enough strategy for you to follow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbnmWfrPTdoYou lose.Again.>Pretending I haven't played RTWP games doesn't mean shit when I'm posting webms of my own gameplay.I'm not "pretending" you didn't play, I'm affirming that you suck at it.>Queuing up actions doesn't mean shit because you need to change things on the fly. Always? Maybe you, because you suck, but even so, how the fuck is that a negative? I mean, what?>Turn based works on a turn by turn basisYou don't say.>Queuing up actions is worthless for any fight that isn't braindeadYou're moving goalposts, first you talk about how you can "plan actions" in TB and how it's "oh so superior" for that, and when I simply point "anon, you can queu actions in RTwP, you can literally plan 10 tuns ahead if you want" you go: "NO!! NOT LIKE THAT!"Embarassing.You lost here dude, don't be a pussy and own it.>Your only argument is to strawman about me not understanding RTWPIt's not a strawman, if you did, you'd realize that they result in similar outcomes and that TB is a colossal waste of time. And let's be honest looks lame as fuck>kiting is such a garbage mechanicLmao, and you were so happy boasting how you can outmaneuver enemies in TB You can't dodging a area of effect spell with movement alone is something you can do only in RTwP.>I already brought up the horrible "strategy" of turning off their AI Horrible pathfinding is the fault of the devs not of RTwP if you dislike it you can CONTROL YOUR OWN CHARACTERS, wow! If you see yourself pausing too frequently, then just use slow mode, YES it's a skill issue, objectively. Select them and then press H so they hold ground dumbass.>otherwise we're done.Good. Go back to eating glue.
>>727682359PSIV
>>727741482>no answer for how it's a skill issue and bad pathing can be prevent without mashing pause, just damage controlYou lose, ESLmonkey.
>>727741657Lmao
>>727682359MGS3GTAIV
>>727741738>the way to fix pathing is to not let them move at allNope, not a solution. Sorry, ESLmonkey.
Even at this day has wide community support, base game has hours and hours of replay value>Driving through Las Venturas with https://youtu.be/na47wMFfQCo?si=Dg066KHz5woJUJ_e over the radio
>>727682359First 3 that come to mind:Dark Souls 1Resident Evil 4The Binding of Isaac
>>727709895>all the cubic kilometer sized rooms get old fastI wanted even more of them. pure kino.
>>727741894God, what an obnoxious little faggot. The discussion was about fighting systems and this bitch resorts to blaming bad pathfinding (?) and calling quits?You got cornered at every turn, you lost the argument, HARD.
>>727741894The way to fix pathfinding is to program the game better? Or play games with better pathfinding? Or you know, PIC RELATED, let me guess... too difficult for you?Incredible argument anon, "pathfinding" it's been a delight to see your whole rhetoric reduced to that.
>>727742812It's always so obvious the reason they get so butthurt about RTwP, their ego just can't handle it.
>>727682359>sonys and nintendo fanboys fighting over which mid game they think deserves a 10/10 when they truly don't why did op even make this bait thread if he knew what types of people he's going to bring here
Ketsui.
>>727683362>The former would be told they can never making anything like it and will ruin the artist strive....and?
>>727683003Holy fucking based.I'd cream my pants if somehow Firaxis decided to announce a remake of Civ 4 with more civilizations in it, then adapt all of the currently popular mods like Revolution DCM and Dynamic Civ name mods. That would be the best Civilization game of all timeThis of course would never happen because they'll never be able to keep Mao Zedong, De Gaulle, or Stalin in the game due to controversies.>>727709774>bad musicThey were great thoughhttps://youtu.be/DbnIJnh28W8?si=oOXnDsMueV-IBUpBhttps://youtu.be/lW0yDDRo9cM?si=lQLJis7AbiK43Okb
>>727682359Age of Empires 2
>>727682359Chrono Cross
>>727682359The most nominated and awarded game in history, Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.
>>727684734Poojeet hands typed this post, had me until the 4th one.
>>727682359I can think of a few deserving a 10, but it's precisely because they're not designed for everybody but me specifically that I can rate them so highly.In any case, there is no such thing as a perfect game because perfection is an unachievable ideal. If you could actually make a perfect game, it would be the death of the medium since you could never surpass it.
>>727683876Portal 2 is great. I'd give the perfect score to Portal. I respect your opinion.
>>727684734Bleed 2Tetris EffectThe Talos Principle
>>727686538It's not perfect, but it's fucking awesome. go play that new Co-Op mod Entagled Worlds with the boys
>>727682359Mike Tyson's punch out... That's basically it. Maybe Tetris or SMB1.
>>727682359A 10/10 game means>you could go play them right now and still have a blast, even by modern standards>you wouldn't change a thing about themTherefore, the following games are 10/10:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!TetrisStar Control IIMega Man XChrono TriggerMetal Gear SolidCrash Team RacingFinal Fantasy XMetal Gear Solid 3: SubsistencePortalDark SoulsCuphead
>>727749929Haha I just beat your post by a few seconds, but you're a cool dude so it's ok.
claire obscure: expedition 33
>>727749929>Chrono Trigger>Final Fantasy X>Dark SoulsBasic bitch listChrono CrossFinal Fantasy VIArmored Core 2All objectively superior titles from their respective studios.
>>727682359Skyrim
>>727682359Portal 2>>727683876>Portal 2oh someone already said it good stuff
>>727750936>Chrono Crossdie in a fucking fire>Final Fantasy VIWoR is garbage by comparison; literally unfinished.
THPS3.
>>727750936>Armored Core 2Every game in the 3rd generation of AC games is better except Nexus. The closest AC gets to a 10/10 is probably Silent Line or Last Raven.
E33 is actually a 10/10 not that it’s perfect because no game is but because the experience is really good. Aside from this, I’ll go ahead and say FF7 Rebirth. It knows that it’s a game and it’s a lot of fun, I loved it, it also has the best soundtrack of any game ever.Bloodborne+DLC.Chrono TriggerPokemon ORAS (fight me)Civ 4AoE IIPortal 2RE4FF Tactics and 12MGS 1-3OoT and Majoras MaskGTA 4RDR2
>ctrl+F>Katamari>0 resultsit's like you assholes don't even play video games
>>727753474Katamari is both a 2/10 and an 8/10.
>>727682359Kingdom Hearts 2 Final MixMonster Hunter WorldCatherine
>>727753449>Pokemon ORAS (fight me)Its really good for a remake. So far its a great list. Can't argue with any of them except maybe the first three MGS
>>727682359Baba Is YouZeroRangerNoitaYoshi's IslandZelda ALTTPWario Land 4FactorioDevil May Cry 3Final Fantasy 9SekiroKingdom Hearts Disco Elysium
>>727682359This >>727687597
>>727682359DispatchMade me Cry & Made me Hard/.
>>727682359Master of Magic
>>727682359Probably not. It's super subjective too.It doesn't help that a lot of games that SHOULD'VE been 10/10s are held back by small but annoying errors, or weird rough bits, like Dragon's Dogma being full of unpolished jank, or Mario Wonder being a bit too easy for a game that has cheat-tier badges, and having half the cast of characters be literally invincible.Also I'm going to assume if I start ctrl+F'ing some bait options, I'll see quite a few.Anyway, Ghost Trick. The only issue I have with the game is that the end is like 4 lore dumps in a row. They're GREAT loredumps, but I wish some of those reveals could've happened a little earlier in the game just so you're not stuck reading so much>>727690081>EraTohoK>game has an enema system>it's pretty much literally only there for the scat angle and not the bloating0/10 in the trash it goes.>>727694759Great for one (1) replay just so you can enjoy how much shit makes a lot more sense with some added context, and for knowing why X happens or Y is so important in advance.Plus the second run is a lot faster.>>727704005It's a combination of reasons:>the game, the port (to fuckin' iOS), and the remake all sold like shit>the iOS port can't even be played anymore>the game's full of spoilers to spoil, and most fans are pretty tight-lipped about it>DS games are a bit hard to record due to the low-res, the two screens, and the touch-based gameplay that some games (like GT) have>>727698840I like how Inscryption's entire fanbase pretty much unanimously agrees that the first chapter is really the only good chapter, and that the ARG shit was cringe.>the woman's possessed by the pixel-art face of the villain from the last game and kills u lol-and damn near literally nobody recognized the face because nobody gives a fuck about the dev's previous game, and most of the ARG shit wasn't even really relevant.Also funny the devs had to rush out the ""mod"" just to appease the ch1 fans, ha.>>727759014based
Original, PS3 remaster, PS4 remake, I don’t care. If we’re lucky we’ll get another remake for the 25th anniversary on PS6.
>>727683876Portal 2 generally guides you way too much.
>>727682359ape escape
>>727693702would be perfect if it had a good ending and not the DE 'worse than the original' ending
>>727763036>'worse than the original' endingthat's literally impossible considering the original didn't have an ending at all, it was a shitty cliffhanger
>>727682441An inept experience, (poorly) crafted by morons. A misdirected attempt at entertaining other humans.10 out of 100 indeed
>>727690848The most pleb opinion ever.
>>727755498Good taste
cod mw2>normal file size>looks great>awesome campaign missions>cool characters>top tier gameplay>elder god tier multiplayer>fun coop missions>no woke shit or paid cosmetics
>>727690250I didn't have the webm on my phone but herehttps://youtu.be/OOjXaAZHEQE?si=fbagb9Aa507RczxnThe comments are pretty great "Should book reviewers be able to read?""Food critics need not be able to cook, but they need to know how to hold a fork and eat"
>>727697124>Ultimate Doom, Doom II, and the first Spyro on PS1Really? No issues with any of the level design? Not even the city maps or e4m1?
>>727682359I see perfect as more of a way of saying a game is timeless or the apex of it's genre. For me I'd give a 10/10 to the following:RE4 (the original not the dogshit demake)Tony Hawk's UndergroundMass EffectDef Jam Vendetta Fight for NYKirby SuperstarRed Dead Revolver007 NightfireOcarina of Time
>>727703021>GoW Ragnarok.How do you tolerate the dumb reddit characters yapping at you the entire time
Aria of Sorrow is objectively a 10/10.
>>727709405Prime 2, or even 1, I could understand you trying to make an argument for; personally I have them around 9.8 or 9.7 respectively.... But this isn't even funny as a joke. Saved your Billy Herrington image tho.
>>727682359Yes, Wario Land 4. Nuff said.
>>727712908Not even the best in its own genre.>>727714808Thought this was dodonpachi for a minute
>>727717881Wing Commander 3 and 4, sure, but no, not the original.It's as if you said jagged alliance 1 instead of 2, or laser squad instead of XCOM UFO defense
>>727734250Mind elaborating? I liked the game too but it's as if you just walked in, said puzzle quest galactrix, and left.
>>727687597I wouldn't say it's perfect, but definitely the best game I've played in the past 10 years.
>>727749929>Star Control IIThis is probably the only one in your list that's 10/10
>>727742812Are you trying to pretend that pathfinding isn't a huge flaw of RTWP, or that RTWP has some advantage over turn based? Why are RTWPfags so dumb?
>>727759014It's crazy how this game is STILL unsurpassed, many decades later. The mediocre soulless remake kinda shat on its legacy a bit, but it still endures, especially with fan patches and mods, but even the original with some enhanced AI is just a wonderful experience. No other 4x comes close except endless legend (1, not the EA for 2... Much as I enjoyed that, it's more like playing a digital board game trying to stack adjacency bonuses, less of a sense of wonder), and perhaps your choice of Age of Wonders (my preference being shadow magic)
>>727767243This is how I know someone is a consolefag...nigger. This game is worse than every other baldura fare, icewind Dale, Neverwinter nights, and yet people put it as 10)10 cuz they never played any others before it....
>>727717881I'd replace Half-Life 2 with San Andreas
>>727770458Cope, I'm a PC Master race chad
>>727682359Tetris Grand Master 3 is the closest a game has gotten to deserving a 10.
>>727770458kek you think DA:O is a consolebab title? oh my daaaays
>>727749929>>727750936No Final Fantasy game is better than an 8/10. Random encounters are a dogshit mechanic that ruin gameplay.
>>727682359Super mario bros 3
>>727769578They are some of my favorite games ever and I still recognize that they aren't perfect after playing them again before MP4. The backtracking in MP1 does get quite tedious at times and there are a few moments in MP2 when you have no clue what to do because the game expects you to go to some random location in a different area. Some of the bosses are bullshit too.
>>727736253Portal 2 is an actual comedy game with setups and punchlines.Most millennial humor is just "REMEMBER THIS THING?" and sarcastic quips.