It gets even better on your second playthrough.
>prime 4 is a let down>no other good 3D metroid games to playIT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
Normalfags will rightfully decry this boring traversal but then spend trillions on GTA VI, a game that will have the same boring padding.
>>727685967>LE OPEN WORLD IS SO COOL AND AMAZING
>>727686181at least in gta you can shoot people while driving the open roads
>>727685967a moody drive through the desert doesn't sound too out of place for MetroidBut it's also the kind of thing that would have just been a cutscene between areas in prior games
>>727685967STOP LYING ON METROID’S NAME. YOU CAN LISTEN TO MUSIC AFTER YOU GET THE 100% SAVE
>>727685967>It gets even better on your second playthrough.
>>727686243It would be okay if the bike controlled better and there was something to do there. And seriously why the fuck are there multiple mandatory cutscene transitions between the areas? Like you have to sit through 2 cutscenes every time you go from the desert to an area
>>727686181GTA driving is an actually fun gameplay pillar
Zoomers would not survive 5 minutes in Vanilla WoW lol
>>727686181Poor attempt, nintendie. In GTA you are at least on roads where you can manevour your vehicle, murder innocents, cause property damage, listen to the radio and at any point get into random gun fights
>>727685967You guys love the boring tracks in Mario Kart, what's the difference?
>>727685967>twitch streamerClaude is the only good one. If there's any job market that AI should replace, it's twitch streamers. And yes MP4 is boring, I figured that out without watching streamers.
>>727686330Why would I play this shit after getting 100%? They should lock music in the next Zelda unless you get all the korok seeds or pay up an extra 50 bucks
>>727686181people buy gta because they want to unleash their inner nigger by causing chaos in the streets
Petition to remove Metroid from the “Metroidvania” name.
>>727686510How retarded does one have to be to find that engaging?
>>727685967They could fix this by just making the bike faster
>>727686553I’m just baitposting Nintendo shill shit
>>727685967>that Mackenzie chime inKek
>>727686591It should be called Igavania anyway. No one cares about these games besides symphony of the night
>>727686673It would really fix anything. Traveling through the desert is just mindless padding and the bike controls like a driving minigame from a RPG game
>>727685967>zoomer can't take in the view and atmosphereSad
That oats guy is kinda huge faggot. When he played other m he kept complaining about incels.
>>727685967Zoomer brain destroyed by Hyrule Field.
>>727686639What do you find engaging Anon?
>>727686591What you can't see from the top map is that it's all just one linear path gated by item requirements or doors locked on one side but not the other.The prime series was always extremely linear, im fact every Metroid after super has been extremely linear, they just stopped trying to hide it ever since MP3.The only game that tries to hide it is dread.
>>727685967
>>727685967>the telephone call in the middle of nowhere from that annoying fucking nig
>>727686824I'm 35 and I always hated having to go through hyrule field back in the day. I just wanted to get to either the next dungeon or cut scene asap.
>>727686819i never watched this dude before but i can already tell he's a super massive faggot from the le epic acting in the op alone, regardless of the topic at hand
>>727686824Yeah, no. The comparison would only make sense if you had to spend three hours on epona in hyrule field collecting crystals to unlock dungeons.
>>727686587If only they knew how superior Carmageddon is for that.
>>727685967Can we just get rid of deserts? Dune was an overrated trash movie anyway. When I finished it, I just thought yeah, this insists upon itself.
>>727686181>LADY! HEAR ME TONIGHT!that's the difference
>>727686794Yeah bro a real gamer would have spent the $30+tip for the amiibo that unlocks the ambient desert music. IT really makes those 35 mandatory press forward through nothing for 2 minutes segments so much better.
>>727685967Even indie games look better than this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev9UKeciPoI
>>727686181this is genuinely such a sad deflection attempt anon holy shit
>>727686987
>>727685967That's not even the worst part.You have to collect a shit ton of green crystals as well as a couple of fetch quests to get to the final boss. That alone takes several hours of your time in the desert!
>>727687050This gas better landmarks and topography that MP4.Insane.
>>727686693If I'm already 100% it, Im done with the game and will never touch it. Fucking Nintendogs
>The fucking kenzie popup Fuck those damage control niggers in the threads, I really hope you at least got paid to lie about whatever slop they are pushing.
>>727685967NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA VIDEOGAME CANNOT HAVE 60 SECONDS WITHOUT SOMETHING HAPPENINGMY GEN Z ATTENTION SPAN CANT TAKE IT
>>727687156that twitter post is a prime example of rage bait, stop giving engagement money will ya?
>>727687279I LOVE COLLECTING CRYSTALS FOR 3 HOURS IN OPEN WORLD SLOP TO ARTIFIALLY INFLATE A GAME'S PLAYTHROUGH!!!!
>>727686824You can compare the essence of things but what's different is always execution. If you're going to make a Hyrule field knock off in 2025, you have execute it better than a videogame that came out in the 90's. They did not do that
Honestly though why did the devs think having the gathering green shit was a good idea? How did they not realise people would find that boring and tedious?
>>727685967admit it, if this was a sony game, tendies would be spamming this WEBM for years or even decades on end. But because this is a tendie game its suddenly okay
>>727686243How is this shit moody though?
>>727687461I agree with the underlying argument, but the performative streamer bullshit included annoys me.
>>727687439They needed padding because the game is pretty short without the dumb green energy gathering and forcing you to drive to basecamp and back to activate upgrades.
>>727687279YOU WILL DRIVE THROUGH HALF-ASSED DESERT AND ENJOY IT. SMASH DE CRYSTAL FOR A DOPHAMINE HIT
>>727687461Yeah tendies took a royal L with Metroid. 10 years waiting for this generic ass open world Whedon slop. But they're going to sweep it under the rug in a week like they do all their flops and it's back to shitting on TLOU2 again.
>>727686693>>727685967I'll just download the amiibo on my cheap writable NFC stickerswhenever someone uploads it to the internet and I can find it
>>727686181Nintendo wishes it could make an open world 1/10th as complex as GTA3 let alone 6
>>727687765But its better to have the game be shorter instead of making it tedious. Most Metroid games are short and nobody cares. Metroid Zero Mission is like 3 hours long casually.
>>727687930That's true so it's pretty dumb that they chose to pad instead of make the game better
Is it playable on yuzu ?
>>727686181driving in gta is fun
>>727685967>elden ring gameplay
>>727685967goofy ahh game got unc fent leaning
>>727686530>You people
>>727686962Hyrule Field takes like a minute to cross from any point, and that's on foot. Unless you're doing side quests you barely need to go there, shortcuts are everywhere.
Meanwhile same people>OH MY HECKIN MASTERPIECE THIS IS ART
>>727685967This makes Starfield look exciting in comparison.
>>727686962Nigger brain disease
>>727688516I too remember all the green crystals I had to destroy with Agro so the final Colossus was unlocked
>>727688602I dont like travelling around. I just want things to be happening constantly and dungeons and cut scenes have constant happenings.
>>727688902Nigger brain disease
>>727687279I was in a hospital waiting room last week for like 8 hours and a zoomer girl in her late 20s sitting beside me was watching tiktoks non stop on loud speaker lol. She literally never stopped the entire time for even a second.
Do you really have to get ALL the green shit to beat the game or do you only have to get some of it?
>nsp file is 26.6 GBis it a virus?
>>727685967Based blast haver
>>727687871how? this looks sick
>>727687634It's not performative, Oatsngoats had been awake for literally like 36 hours and was titled after grinding this boring ass zone so hard
>>727685967b-but the nintendo gener- I mean famitsu threads told me it was all overblown...
>>727689248i love fern
>>727686181Difference is instead of driving through empty desert, you're drawing through a bunch of whores.
>>727688231You could pick the flattest area in Elden ring and it looks more impressive that this. I know it hurts your game is shit but I need you to move on.
>>727689404Both of them are zoomnigger garbage.
>>727686142i recently play alien isolation hoping it would a 3d metroid like title with interconnected maps and item gating where you free roamed ala prime 1 but with an aggressive enemy ai chasing you.imagine my disappointment
>>727685967>It gets even better on your second playthrough.yes but how many hours? I remember it was 200 hours for starfield to "really start"
>>727686824>A field with giant plants ready to fuck you up.>Secret holes strewn around the setting.>Night time you get chased by immortal enemies.Oh yeah its definitely just as boring.
>>727685967do they even explain why the fuck a bitch with a space ship needs to cross a desert on a fucking motorcycle? why the fuck aint she using her spaceship??
>>727688516>this alone looks more interesting than the webm.>BUT BUT SNOYHollow Knight took your cake and ate it. All those 8//10 scores are legacy passes from a bygone era.
>>727689471different world and stranded
>>727686883that's the whole point. there's one path forward, sometimes some skips or ways to circumvent some things for skilled players but ultimately you're exploring to find the intended way forward. that is the point of the game play. unraveling it into one straight line is removing the gameplay and appeal.
>>727686181>Tendie who has never played a single GTA in his life is an expert on GTA
>>727687279why don't you stare at a wall for 6 hours, nonny? it'd make the zoomers seeeeeeeeeeeeeethe
>>727689471her space ship never works when you need it most
>>727689341based
>>727686181Record yourself driving straight for a full minute in GTA. Oh wait you can't because it's not just an endless plane of nothing.
>>727686181You don't have to spend $30 extra to get the radio in GTA
>>727689603I wish she would get stranded in my house...
>>727686750sotn is the worst igavania
>>727685967This webm would be a fucking parody ten years ago.Journos gave this dogshit an 8. Thank fuck for indies, this industry is a joke.
>>727686181You are dishonest brahmin trash to compare this to the ambient soul of gta
>>727686824I could roll through this field faster than the stupid motorcycle
>>727689857GTA is literally the most soulless series to ever exist. Genuinely made for lesser humans.
>>727687869TRVTHNVKE
>>727686181This streamer almost exclusively plays Metroid games. He decided to play Prime 3 instead of finishing the Hard Mode Prime 4 playthrough yesterday. He gave Prime 4 a 5.2/10.
>>727690017>5.2/10Still too high
>>727685967It's fucking over for Nin10dicklickers. Shitendo is dead, they simply can't recover after wasting 10 years on this TURD Most hated game 2025 by far
>>727688740i remember a ueda interview where he removed the idea for enemies in the overworld because it felt like filler that took away from the wonder of the bosses, and gave up on a fast travel mechanic because it would defeat the point of the world, which was setting up expectation and tension for the bosses, it was well thought after all because the bosses would have been the most iconic thing about the game regardless by a long shot, nigga's a genius
>>727690017Watching him taught me a lot about dread's movement tech.
>>727685967Who at Nintendo thought delivering a 1:1 low definition empty nuPokemon overworld in a Metroid game, even for the shiteaters who lap up Prime, would work?
>>727685967>game realizes nothing has happened for 20 seconds>*RING RING* HEY HAVE YOU FOUND THE [OBJECTIVE]?>LOOK AT YOUR MAP TO FIND THE [OBJECTIVE]!
>>727692320/v/ will forever be in denial about it, but Prime 4 was made for women.
this reminds me of that one zelda game with the boat, forget what it's called
>>727685967lmao
>>727687117>are we still on namekperfect
>>727686243>moody>big ass purple bike thats already out of place>some faggot in your ear telling you to look at da map!!!11You might be the biggest retard in this thread
>>727685967Either he is literally sleep deprived to the point where he is unable to stay awake, or he is faking it for the camera, so Nintendo haters can screenshot it and go, "See? The desert is so boring, that this streamer fell asleep!".
>>727693262>Pretending to be retarded
>>727686750Deedlit labyrinth shits on SOTN with its asscheeks tightly sewn up behind its back.
>>727688516maybe they shouldn't have made the open world so ugly and people wouldn't complain as much. I didn't complain about the sea in windwaker either because it wasn't making me want to vomit while i was looking at it.
>>727685967>open world gameplay
>>727685967>waited 18 years for this shit
>>727689915>rollSide-stepping was much faster.
>>727687930The sad fact is that 99% of gamers evaluate a game's worth based not on how much they enjoyed it, but how much of their life it wasted per dollar. Hence, every modern video game being filled with atrocious garbage like this.
>>727685967I'm buying a brand new copy every time you guys criticize this game
>>727685967Kensuke Tanabe coded this part personally to make Metroid Prime 4 zoomer friendly. $70 game by the way.
>>727686181>they hated him because he told the truthGTA hasn't been good since PS2.
>>727686181>Normalfags will rightfully decry this boring traversalNo they won't. They can't get enough of this slop, that's why it's in every fucking game now.
>>727685967So, does that mean they will focus on 2D Metroid?
not even Okada likes it it's over
>restarted development from scratch for this
>>727686181Nintendo is not sending their best to defend their shitty games. Back to the famitsu thread with you. You can cry about Sony there. Stop embarrassing yourself here
breath of the wild was a disaster for video games
>>727689446Botw and totk are horrible games that only retards enjoy
>>727686142>No other good 3D Metroid games to playExcept for the best game in the series...
>>727688516>>727690542>>727689570>>727688740Honest 10/10 world building. Even doing the "padding" (completely optional and not even advertised outside of fucking gamefaqs), hunting for lizards, apples and climbing the tower was fun.Dunno how the fuck they did it but it is empty world done right
>>727686142But you have Metroid Dread. Its Metroid, its 3D and it got a bad guy Chozo.
>>727688516>but what about SonyLike clockworkKill yourself.
>>727693350He did stream for like a day plus, and is a huge metroid fan
>>727694180Metriod Dread is the fastest selling Metroid game and the highest sold Metroid game to date. The budget of that game compared to Metroid Prime 4 isn't even comparable, with Prime 4 taking so long its likely 150 million dollars budget minimum (MINIMUM!) while Dread was probably 50-70 million top.It's pretty fucking obvious to anyone who isn't from SubSaharan Africa that Nintendo crunched the numbers and deemed Prime 4 a failure beyond repair so they forced them to release it as it is. It explains why they aren't marching up and down like this is their big Winter 2025 title. It explains why they haven't marketed this game with a huge blowout Direct. It explains why Nintendo isn't advertising this game everywhere like they normally would. If you were around for Metroid Dread's launch and this the differences in atmosphere are night and day in the public sphere. Prime 4 is practically something Nintendo shit out and put under the rug and aren't proud of it. It exists to say they delivered Metroid Prime 4 on Switch 1 campaign promise. Kirby a single button game got multiple Nintendo Directs this year, each an hour long, lol. Metroid Prime 4 is a dud that even Nintendo knows is a fucking dud. Unless they're completely retarded, 2D Metroid is safe bet for the future. The bigger mystery is if RetroStudios gets shuttered or not. Remember they didn't just work on Metroid Prime 4 for a decade.
>>727694012That's the industry's own fault for bloating the prices to the extent that they have. $80 for a 3-hour game would be a ripoff even if it's the greatest three hours of your entire life.
Because the 30 dollar Amiibo unlocks the music for the bike, it costs 100 dollars for Metroid Prime 4. That could buy you two copies of Metroid Dread or 1 copy of both Metroid Prime Remaster and Metroid Dread.
>>727686181
>>727694757As hopeful as your post seems, the masses are too stupid and braindead to let Prime 4 fail. The metacritic should've already told you this.
>>727689468It absolutely is a snoozefest. Prime 4's desert is even worse.MP4 is proof that people who actually like OoT should never be allowed to make video games.
>>727686181I get what you mean, I was literally the guy in OP's video when I had to drive the fucking submarine with Trevor. And most time just driving from point A to B, just to listen to a meaningless conversation
>>727688516>But what about sony?>But what about them child porn?>But what about palestine?
>>727695114I'm playing an OOT/MM randomizer right now, and yeah this part is the absolute worst. Especially when you haven't found any warp songs or epona or the bunny hood (it lets you run faster via the randomizer settings).
>>727694757>Kirby a single button game got multiple Nintendo Directs this yearActually, its two buttons now!
>>727686456Vanilla WoW was shit because of padding and chores, so I don't know what point you thought you had.
>>727695114it's boring, but it was groundbreaking to be able to freely roam a large area in 3D for the very first time
>>727695204>>727695114I'm playing OoT on the Switch 2 emulator and I do save states then reload the game if it spawns Link in a location closer to where I want to. The early parts of OoT are rough without warp.
>>727685967....does the game actually play itself if you don't give it inputs? samus avoids hitting the wall while the guy looks passed out and the bird things still get attacked.
>>727695350I'm more concerned about why the birds don't even attack.
>>727690017How does he rate Other M?
>>727695389well... ya that too. tf
>>727695235>Actually, its two buttons now!Unfortunately a second button has been added to Kirby's Air Ride 2.
Are Prime 1-3 are still the only games to ever get the Metroidvania style right in 3D?
>>727687916Why would they want to make a world with 1/1000 the complexity of TotK?
>>727695518Wow he looks so much happier now that he's free from Smash Bros
>>727688516yeah but that games old so its forgiven
>>727688602>"my childhood nostalgia game is perfect!" YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!"
>>727694454What a weird way to spell Elden Ring.
>>727686908love that approach to invisible barriers, just shoot the player out of a fucking cannon so fast the camera has to catch up lmao
>>727695114ERM YOU HAVE TO SIDEWAYS HOP WAVE DASH JUMP SWORD TO MOVE AT 37% FASTER SPEEDSDO YOU NOT EVEN SPEEDRUN? DO YOU NOT LIKE SPEEDRUNNING? YOU'RE PLAYING THE GAME WRONG.WRONG. AGAIN, YOU'RE PLAYING. THE. GAME. WRONG.
>>727695532Banjo-Tooie is a 3D Metroidvania. It's worst level is also a bland wasteland added to incorporate a gimmick whose juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Food for thought.
>>727695350No, he was doing funny reaction for content.>>727695389They are naturally docile early on until the desert gets hit with energy rain that makes everything tougher and more aggressive.
>>727695532Only Prime 1 and Prime 2 nailed Metroid in 3D. Though arguably the initial releases were better in some ways? Nintendo removed the sequence breaking in the European versions, the Wii trilogy, and the Switch Remaster. But they added quality of life changes to make them better each time. So short answer: YES. But they panicked and made them a little less Metroidvania after seeing our sick sequence break videos of Prime 1 and that Prime 2 demo disc.Dark Souls is practically 3D Metroid in level design. The industry pushed Metroidvania, Demon's Souls also had Metroidvania elements with tons of obscure secrets and janky elements like World Tendency that incentivized backracking. I'm focusing on FromSoftware a lot because their games are very popular and anyone who play Metroidvania can recognize what's at their core too.
>>727695854Is that McLovin?
>>727689468>>A field with giant plants ready to fuck you up.>>Secret holes strewn around the settingSo exactly like Prime4's desert.
>>727695845>until the desert gets hit with energy rain that makes everything tougher and more aggressive.Still waiting on this by the way. The desert is painfully boring from start to finish.
>>727688516That fire dragon boss on the motorbike felt like a shitty version of a SOTC boss fight desu, at least in the first phase. SOTC is still so good for being a 2005 PS2 title.
>>727694180I hope so. They should have never deviated from making the 2D games the marquee games in the first place. Prime was a nice idea, but it's not as "Metroid" as the 2D games are. Even the directors of Prime want it to be Halo ODST or Reach. Just focus on actual Metroid (the 2D games and maybe a retry of Other M) and go from there. It's better for budget, better for level design ideas, sales, development time and nearly everything else.
I subscribe to the theory Nintendo (Tanabe) saw Metroid Prime 4 by Namco be a normal Metroid and they went crazy about Breath of the Wild quotas not being met so the desert had to be created and RetroStudio took over.
>>727695943If you haven't seen it you aren't even to the 20% point of the game. You're crying about the earliest points in the game.
I don't know why Nintendo fanboys (note: not METROID fans) are so adamant on defending this game to the death when we should be demanding better. No, it's not as bad as Other M, but we deserve better than 2nd from last place.
>>727686181you can't drive for a minute straight in GTA with your eyes closed because there's actually shit on the map and you'll crash. tendies geniunely don't know shit about games
>>727696073Already gone through the whole game. This POS is a slog from start to finish. If they did get tougher, then I didn't notice because they still didn't pose a threat.
>>727686824Hyrule field was bad. It was just big and empty unless iit waa night time. They needed SOME enemies to make it dangerous.>Link only needs a sword for dungeons!
>>727696118It's at least 3rd place. I like it more than Federation Force.
>>727685967>no sandstorms>no random sand pits that can take you to secret caves with items, enemies, puzzles>no other areas for the open world with the bike, ice are that you have to carefully maneuever the bike in order not to slide into water, dodging cracking ice, ice slides, no volcanic area for the bike with hazards, no using bike for forest area, weaving through trees, going up giant branches>only two enemies>>727688516>can get lost>requires platforming to get to colossus>water sectionsWhy even design games at this point?
>>727694168You're fucking insane
>>727696143Here's a post where I believe you. Good job, you can go now.
>>727686639I am agree sir, so many better engagement in the Metroid Prime 4 sir you can drive through empty desert like the Al-Zutt in the search the Muhammad sir.
>>727695268tons of pc games did that earlier
>>727687871I prefer cards, they're easier to label
this is why video games can never be classified as art. look at how the average gamer interacts with one. honestly i think gamers should just do meth or heroin if they all just want dopamine and adrenaline constantly. actual drug addicts.
>>727685967That'll be 80USD plus nintendo online subcription
>>727696118Sunk cost fallacy. You've been hitting green energy crystal things for hours, you're not going to just admit you wasted hours of your life. Oh and did you know that Samus can't use upgrades? You have to backtrack to Myles NPC to watch a bunch of cutscenes just to use your abilities. Oh and it goes without saying, sorry if I'm being obnoxious about this while speaking, but you have to go through the boring desert, boring load screen transitions. Every time. Nothing fundamentally changes either so it isn't even backtracking that opens new doors in Metroidvania. Redditors are fighting admitting this game is a kusoge down to the last Myles Chungus faggot.
>>727696270GTA has not ever been good. Literally just drivea and shoot. What a piece of shit series with braindead fans.
>>727686693>Now let's stop spreading misinformation, shall we?
>>727685967>Imagine paying for background musicI just don't get it
>>727696274Here's a post where I pretend that you're being reasonable and not a fanboy. Good job, you can go now.
>>727696380>You've been hitting green energy crystal things for hoursI got every single one in the desert in under 2 hours. What the FUCK are you retards doing?
>>727696347only midwits think that nothing happening automatically means it's deep and artistic
>>727696204Fettucine Force is, in fact, better than Metroid Prime 4.
>>727686693>you can listen to music on the speeder after you've done literally every single thing on the game OWNEDwow amazing
>>727696380>You have to backtrack to Myles NPC to watch a bunch of cutscenes just to use your abilities. For only 4 out of 30 abilities.>Nothing fundamentally changes either so it isn't even backtracking that opens new doors in MetroidvaniaBlatantly untrue.
>>727696384That's just factually incorrect even in the ps2-era there's a variety of activities you can do that don't revolve around driving and murder
>>727685967>if you're lost why dont you use the map to see where to goare you for real? People need to be told this shit?
>>727696440Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>>727696118It's a literal cult, I don't know what do you expect
>>727696539>For only 4 out of 30 abilities.It should be 0 out of 30. You should never need to backtrack in a Metroid game just to activate an ability you already acquired.In fact, there should not be a Myles Mackenzie in a Metroid game period. Unless he was going to die within 10 minutes of you meeting him, he should not have been in the game.
>>727696456It's so funny how people compare this to 3D Zelda games like Ocarina of Time and even Twilight Princess but just imagine if you got to the end of those games but couldn't open the door to fuck up Ganon because you didn't ride around Epona catching golden skulltula/spiders. And not jut some, but all of them on them on Hyrule Field lol.
Goddamn thats fucking Wind Waker levels of padding. At least TWW used it as a disguise for loading screens.
Metroid games was never good.Yes , this include Super Metroid.
>>727685967They did the bird thing like in wind waker.
>>727696601I bet Ubisoft feels flattered by Nintendo ripping them off for Metroid and Zelda.
>>727696561>fucking minigames with less depth than a Mario Party minigameOh yeah, you're going to go bowling more than once for a laugh. What a stupid post.
Dreadfags, I apologizeI was too harsh
>>727696616>just to activate an ability you already acquiredYou didn't aquire an ability. You found a useless piece of junk that someone else can salvage.
>>727687765Metroid being short and easy to replay is the point.Short games are not bad if they have replayability.
people focus so much on the NPCs they don't even consider rest of the game is mid, so many reviews I've seen are "companions weren't so bad 10/10"
>>727696645Wind Waker gave you warps and things to do between warps.
>>727696671Nintendo would have to have done that for Ubisoft to feel that way.
>>727696539>For only 4 out of 30 abilities.I never want to hear people shit on Metroid Other M fans when you got Metroid Prime 4 fans defending not being able to equip your own gear because "UH ACKAWTUALLY ITS ONLY FOUR CHUDDIE." Reddit sisters are here.
>>727696674You can do more than bowling when you're hanging out with friends. It's for world building, you know, making it so you're not just existing in a fucking empty desert, but yes. In GRAND THEFT AUTO you will be spending most of your time driving and committing crimes. Go figure.
>>727696813>empty worlds of nothing>obnoxious, grating NPCs>generic fetch quests>zero difficultyFeels like ubisoft to me.
>>727685967Locking hard mode on the first playthrough is kind of a drag. Normal is too easy and feels like your typical Nintendo thing
>>727695789I thought it was a Mario 64 knockoff
>>727696870>not being able to equip your own gearIT ISN'T YOUR OWN GEAR. IT ISN'T GEAR. YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THIS GAME.
>>727687439It's the same studio that made you run all over the world scavenging for artifacts/keys/power cells at the end of the other Prime games. Someone in their lead design team has a huge hardon for making you "earn" the final boss.
>>727685967Reminder Eric is only seething over Prime 4 because he’s a huge cubie fanboy insecure it’s going to outsell every other Metroid.
>>727696905None of those are in Mario nor Zelda.
Prime > Dread > Super > AM2R > Prime 2 > Samus Returns > Zero Mission > Prime Hunters > Prime 3 > Prime Pinball > Metroid 1 > Metroid 2 > Federation Force > Prime 4 > Other M
>>727696941FUCK YOU MYLES GET OUT OF METROID AND LET ME USE MY PLASMA BEAM IN PEACE.
>>727696941So explain how this tech is somehow different from all the other tech Samus has encountered over the years, from varying civilizations, that she could already magically integrate into her systems, and yet these upgrades are just too alien for her.>>727697018Not even trying.
>>727697026>wrong about game he hasn't played>moves goalposts
>>727697025Where can I even find AM2R anymore?
>>727697113>YOU NEED REDDIT CHUNGUS TO ALLOW SAMUS TO EQUIP NEW GEARThis is Metroid Other M levels of Adam authorizes Samus to breathe.
>>727696986is he an ootsnoy too or just a cubesnoy?
>>727697079Show me the Metroid game where you yanked a flamethrower out of the wall and it magically became the plasma beam. I'll wait.
>>727696986Take your meds, schizo
>>727697025>Other M>lastConfirmed never played, but that's fine. Nice safe list.
>>727696941Fuck you, retard. It IS your gear. Every other Metroid game just gives you the power up right away. Hell, there are plenty of power ups in PRIME 4 ITSELF that don't have you go back to check if Lord Myles will let you use your power up. This shit is worse than Other M. At Least Adam didn't require you to backtrack to his location to activate your power up.
>>727697025you're ranking Dread and Returns way too high
>>727697191>YOU NEED REDDIT CHUNGUS TO ALLOW SAMUS TO EQUIP NEW GEAR>shit that never happenedYou immediately equip 100% of new powerups you find. You also find 3 pieces of junk that you can take to an NPC to craft into powerups.
>>727697257Shut the fuck up, Dobson.
Is MP4 the most overrated game of the year? I bet that even federation force would get shilled hard if it had released today instead
>>727697219She literally does that all the time. Hell, half the time she's just reverse engineering tech that the space pirates made, and presumably they aren't making it compatible for her for obvious reasons. Unless you'd like to explain why Prime 1's thermal visor and X-ray visor work for her the moment she gets them.
>>727697271It ISN'T your gear. It isn't gear at all. See >>727697219
>>727696118Because the backlash is disproportional. Not the review scores - those are actually pretty spot on. But the discourse is fucking annoying and full of retards and people who very blatantly don't know the series in the first place and are just jumping on MP4 because shitting on Nintendo is topical.The review scores are pretty spot on. The game is an 8/10. The moment to moment gameplay/boss design/more traditional locations play and look great. Music is also awesome. But the major new additions (tutorial-like voiced dialogue and the open world) are awkward, out of tone and not particularly fun. This results in a game that isn't as good as the rest of the Prime series, and it deserves the critical reception it got in reviews for that.What it, and the discussion around it, doesn't need, is a million retards who haven't touched the series and have no plans to just joining in on the discourse because "le arrogant nintendo getting brought down a peg!!!". But the retards who love their topical drama about games they don't play but will never admit they're the video game equivalent of gossiping women are never going to be self aware enough to stop.
I liked when Castlevania Symphony of the Night and Metroid Dread prevented you from using a powerup on the spot until you got Reddit Chungus to decypher it for you. Actually in fairness you could get items out of order in Metroid games which show up as UNKNOWN until you get the suit upgrade/prerequisite powerup. They just didn't do a humiliation ritual of you going back on a bike, to the desert, to watch a bunch of cutscenes with Myles Chungus Reddit Self Insert and Tanabe's Federation Troopers.You are a tremendous homosexual and I say that while having watched trannies have sex. You are gayer than me.
>>727696384For all the "If it's not fun, why bother" parroting you people do, you sure seem to hate a series that does nothing more than what it set out to do. The series' name is called Grand Theft Auto, no shit that all you're gonna do for most of your playtime is drive cars and shoot guns.Do you also get mad when you try to play football while at a swimming pool or something?
>>727685967I want to know what retard decided METROID needed an open world with nothing of value in it.or no interconnected levels.or cringe dialogue.
What about the psychic powers? Do they add anything relevant?
>>727697405>the review scores are pretty spot onShill tries not to expose themselves (IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE)
>>727696118I thought the pilot guy in Halo Infinite was kind of annoying but at least he did find his ballsack towards the end of the game and wasn't nearly as quippy as Miles. I dunno what possessed Retro to look at the reception go that NPC and go "yeah but what if we made him 5x more annoying and soi"
>>727686693Tendies in full meltdown mode kek
>>727697025>Dread>Best 2d gameIt is 3rd best at best behind super and zero mission. Personally I put it below fusion
>>727697363Shut the fuck up you absolute idiot. It IS your gear. In every other Metroid game, including parts of Prime 4, you would just get the goddamned power up. I don't care what retarded set dressing is used because it could just have been not used. It's that goddamned simple you fucking idiot.Kill yourself. Right now. Live stream it.
>>727696276Jeetposting whilst defending GTA is a little ironic, sar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D71cBUeAL58
>>727697359>She literally does that all the timeThen post some. Even one. Show me Samus ripping a flamethrower or welding arm away and just magically absorbing it into her suit. I'm still waiting.>Unless you'd like to explain why Prime 1's thermal visor and X-ray visor work for her the moment she gets them.You're talking about a visor being integrated as a visor. The items you are crying about in Beyond are literal nonfunctional junk being torn apart, salvaged, and repurposed INTO useable gear. You haven't played or even watched the game.
>>727697575Are super and zero fags the cubies of the metroid>fanbase?
>>727685967there are deserts in ps2 games that look more lively lol
>>727697548I don't even know what you're trying to say here. The point I was making was that it getting lower review scores than the rest of the franchise is reasonable. I'm not sure if you misunderstood that or something.
>>727697575Nah. Dread is rank 2 for sure. Its movement and difficulty is much more satisfying than ZM's but not quite as rewarding as SM's.If Dread also had good music, it would be the best Metroid game to date.
>>727697591So you CAN'T show me what you're claiming where Samus just magics non beam objects into beams? But you said you could.
>>727697405It's a 5.5/10 game at best.
>>727697534It's double jump but Dragon Age Veilguard coded. The consistent criticism is they're not new powerups at all and just purple reskinned old moves that also don't innovate. The screw attack is not in this game, despite having been in Metroid Prime 2 and 3. Samus' new psychic powers don't dramatically change the moment-to-moment gameplay of backtracking or combat. You could shoot different beams and missiles in 2D Metroid then screw attack. I'm just talking rudimentary combat options and ways to make backtracking fun. Not present in Prime 4, even, lmao.
>>727697363Why are you so intent on arguing about the semantics of an upgrade/item? So you don’t have to address the key issue with its design?
>>727697625>You're talking about a visor being integrated as a visor.Literal space pirate tech that they go out of their way to make incompatible to Samus, and yet she makes it compatible anyway. Infact later in the game she LITERALLY steals a flamethrower from their troopers and integrates it into her beam weapons. That is literally one of her optional sidegrades.
>>727686181yea but i can shoot niggers in gta
>>727685967I actually went out of my way to 100% this and I have never been more disappointed and frustrated by a game. Can't wait for the New Toy Syndrome to wear off so people will see how much this game fucking sucks.>>727686181>prime 4>no music when you drive>gta6>music when you driveThis alone makes GTA6 better.>>727686243This is being echoed by people who play the first couple of laps but anyone that gets far enough will get sick of how enormous the desert is for no good reason. Nothing happens in it and it's not plot relevant at all.
>>727697725>Dragon Age Veilguard codedWhat does this mean?
>>727697618At least you have to aim while shooting in gta, it looks like you have an auto lock-on in that desert clip, and apparently those birds don't even do anything, they're just there to shoot if you want some color on the screen
>>727697767>Infact later in the game she LITERALLY steals a flamethrower from their troopers and integrates it into her beam weaponsNo she doesn't. The plasma beam is LITERALLY, ingame, scanned as a plasma beam. YOU. HAVEN'T. PLAYED. THESE. GAMES.
>>727697667I disagree especially saying with good music it would be better than super. Dread has way too many dead zones and emmis take up 40% of the map space but do fuck all.
>>727697664Review scores are always wrong no matter what, even if you agree with them, because reviewers and the masses are retards. Why are you using them in any sort of metric?
>>727697717What are you blabbering on about you blithering fucking moron? I told you to kill yourself for defending having to backtrack to equip a power up. End your miserable existence you stupid fucking roach. How DARE you defend absolute dogshit game design just because it has an in game "justification"?
Reddit chungus is melting down over the word "gear". Autistically. It doesn't matter if it's part of her past arsenal or new gear/power/technobabble shit. It's a powerup in a Metroidvania game, you don't need Kensuke Tanabe troopers to authorize you to integrate it into Samus' suit.You fucking terminally autistic Redditor. You just got a sick powerup in a Castlevania game (Aria, Dawn, Symphony), I don't need to visit the fucking NPCs to use that as my powers in a video game.REDDITOR CHUNGUS TRIGGERS YOU DON'T IT.
>>727697405>80% metacriticAnon I think you forget that there's a Nintendo bonus and without it, it sits at a 6/10. And that's still too generous, it's more like a 4 or a 5.That forced crystal farm at the end is by far the most blatant case of padding I have ever seen in any video game ever. Nintendo should be ashamed of themselves, and fans should be embarrassed when they defend it. I certainly get second hand embarrassment.
>>727686243You still get the cutscenes and elevators when you arrive at your destination. It's like getting the best of both worlds! ;)
>>727697848>shill doesn't even play the gamesLOL
>>727697858That's an entirely different issue that I'm not discussing, stat on topic retard
>>727697843Yeah, don't get me wrong, GTA is a massive leg-up from MP4, but R*'s massive open worlds have becoming increasingly uninteresting in their own rights. Goddamn do I hate traversing RDR2's map.
>>727697905>admitting he hasn't played the gamesThanks, retard. We knew that, but at least you admitted to it. Very adult. You can go now.
>>727697956>shill gets called out after dicksucking reviewers and game journalists>proceeds to melt downYou love to see it.
>>727697363you're talking about this like it's an objective fact it has to work that way and not a thing they made up to justify why you need to backtrack
>>727697848Anon. Stop.
Metroid Prime 1 would be improved if we followed Redditor Chungus' advice and prevented you the player from using it right away until you backtracked to the ship and were authorized by Federation Troopers to equip it. Sequence breaking guardrails everywhere, we must be better Metroid men. When Samus takes off her helmet we LISTEN and BELIEVE WOMEN IN STEM PROGRAMS.
>>727697025Hunters is impossible for me to rank because the campaign is 2-3/10 dogshit but the PvP which is the meat and potatoes is legitimately 9/10 and the most fun I had playing any Nintendo multiplayer by a mile and I don't even like FPS games that much
>>727697948Yeah, that's ALSO an armcannon powerup. Still waiting for when you tesr this shit off the wall. Post it. You find that literally floating in the middle of a room as a plasma beam upgrade.
>>727697505Some bean counter at Nintendo corporate who insisted that they make the game more like their two best sellers BOTW and Mario Kart
>>727685967what the fuck is the point of an open world if its literally just empty space??
Metroid Dread shits on Metroid Prime 4. That's it, that's the post.
>>727698062See >>727698102
>>727698102That's not the point, you claimed earlier there wasn't a flamethrower to be found.
>>727698143All the powerups, sunken caves, and enemies don't count, right?
>>727698115Prime 4 is way more like Skyward Sword than BOTW. No, the fact that there's like 10 shrines in the giant hub world doesn't change this.
>>727697927Nah 6/10 is about right. Consider the sheer volume of dogshit that gets released these days. 6/10 means barely above average which is fair
>>727686693>This faggot tendie was honest to God typing this like it was the ultimate "gotcha" mic drop
>>727698007I enjoyed it, but it's more my speed. Even so they at least tried to fill out the more empty areas of the map with little Easter eggs or even just a bandit you can interrupt. I have a soft spot for RDR2 though, I will admit it's hard to restart though because the beginning of the game is largely on-rails and takes way too long to actually release you into the world on your own
>>727698238>Sunken cavesYou mean BotW Shrines?
>>727697927if it didn't have the metroid name attached to it, it'd be a 3-4 in honest review metrics
>>727698013I just got to Volt Forge 20 minutes ago.Livestream your an hero. Now.
>>727698258That shit is the most obvious sarcastic bait post I have read this year anon
>>727698221I didn't, vut you're free to quote where I did. I said you don't just tear shit off the walls like you do for prime 4's stuff. You have to find some curated powerup designed to integrate with a powersuit. READ.
>>727685967>mackenzie chiming in with basic tutorial informationwhyFucking why
I think it's gay game design but I do think people need to stop spamming that you do it for every upgrade when it's only the few Shots. I don't disagree it sucks but you're only hurting your argument when you say shit like you need to cross the desert dozens of times for each upgrade when most of them work like normal
>>727687346What if it isn't ragebait? What if it's his actual dogshit opinion? What if the ragebaiters have been doing it "ironically" for so long they forgot to be ironic about it, and now they're just retarded for real?
>>727698102Why is a powerup, only usable by Samus, in a location heavily guarded by space pirates? Could it be that she IS able to magically integrate it into her suit, and the devs originally thought it would be stupid to force the player to backtrack to her ship so they can authorize the powerup? Almost like they took some creative liberties to keep the gameplay pace?
How do you go from Dread to this?
>>727698143Padding and a much easier development process. Brainstorming and programming very well thought-out individual levels or maps is much harder than just dropping a wide open, empty plot of land and calling it hours of content because you hide 3 or 4 pieces of shit in it.
>>727686693In Xenoblade 3, you get the first amiibo bonus by clearing the story once. There is no excuse for Prime 4 to gate a motherfucking OST behind a paywall or a 100% completion.
This is fun.This is like those marble games in which you roll around as a marble.
I remember being disappointed about a Switch 2 emulator being unlikely since Nintendo is getting stricter with them, but honestly even with emulation I wouldn't play the absolute turds of games Nintendo have released in this year, this launch was worse than the Xbox one but tendies are absolutely delusional and gladly buy and praise whatever crap is in front of them
>>727698334>No she doesn'tYou have the memory of a goldfish, it seems
>>727698337FYI he's in the entire game. Alongside his buddies who will call Samus on radio all the time. Even when you're in the desert exploring they'll remind you go the right way. There is nothing you can do to turn this off. You will get a game over if one of your NPC companions dies. You will have to babysit them for the final boss as well because if they die there, you die too.:) Metroid for everyone :)
>>727698102>Yeah, that's ALSO an armcannon powerupOk let's run some braincells together. Think about the number of times samus has been deep behind space pirate lines and gotten power ups. You do think they conviently make them easily integrable to her suit or do you think there is some reverse engineering space magic going on that is a waste of time for the player to see?
>>727698375Don’t compare 2D to this 3Dslop
>>727693863this is genuinely one of the most autistic replies Ive ever seen, even on here, so many layers to it
>>727698362>only usable by SamusHuh? Says who? It's a beam weapon designed to work with armored weaponized suits. We are talking about a fucking nonfunctional welding tip in Beyond. The flamethrower in Prime is a functioing beam cannon upgrade.
>>727698463The biggest deterrent to emulation - making games that aren't even worth emulating
>>727698530This guy took the space pirate tuuubes comics seriously. >>727698572>Huh? Says who? It's a beam weapon designed to work with armored weaponized suits. But why would the space pirates make it compatible with Samus' suit? Why wouldn't they go out of their way to prevent Samus from using their weapons?
>>727698375Tbh, Dread would be 100% improved without the parry and cinematic stuff.
breath of the wild is the worst thing to happen to nintendo game design
>>727686181kind of like comparing a 2d platformer level with zero obstacles (can be cleared holding right on the dpad with eyes closed) vs a level that has obstacles (cannot be cleared doing this)i agree driving in gta isn't amazing but you at least have to pay attention a little bit. though they gave up on this in rdr2 cuz they autowalk you to the location so we'll see.
>>727698505She didn't steal the flamethrower from a pirate's armor. She found it as a beam cannon upgrade, fully functional, in the middle of a room. You still haven't shown her just popping a damaged object off some background objects like you've claimed happens all the time.
Absolute state of tendo's shovelware lol.
I love how everyone glazes Metroid Prime 4's intro as "wow bombastic and amazing" when it's just straight line Hollywood AAA movie slop game design with tons of people shouting. So that's the Reddit audience, huh, this is "peak Metroid". The most memorable part was the intro when it was a Hollywood walking sim movie with girlboss Samus at fullpower with no game over potential.Interesting what the modern audience is. By the way, even the mid bosses of Metroid Dread skillcheck you. You cannot tank even the mid bosses and hope to get through the game, just not possible. David Jaffe the Reddit Chungus CEO met the invisible wall chad gatekeeper and couldn't proceed through Metroid Dread. We await his final review for Metroid Prime 4 because accessibility is important. ALL PLAYERS WELCOME IN METROID PRIME 4.
>>727698727>She didn't steal the flamethrower from a pirate's armor.How do you know? For a 2002 gamecube game, they took some creative liberties and didn't show Samus ripping the flamethrower from a dead pirate.
>>7276859678 year development for this btw. Let's be honest for a sec, Nintendo is nothing but a Zelda, Mario or Pokemon machine.
>>727698656The party shit is awful and if mercury steam wasn't going to resolve i would be seething another 2d Metroid game was almost certainly going to be stuck with the shit mechanic. It's way too fucking strong and too much of the game is balanced around it turning into a waiting sim
>>727698727Regardless, what you typed read as heavily implying that she doesn't find a flamethrower and that there is only the plasma beam.
>>727694757Nintendo has not historically ever shuttered a studio. The worst they have done is lay off a bunch of staff and turn them into a support studio, which is what they did to NST after Project HAMMER.
>>727698787>I love how everyone glazes Metroid Prime 4's introI have not seen a single person who was a Metroid fan prior praise it
>>727698787This is the same audience that defended Tears of the Kingdom, mind you. AKA the game with an unskippable walk-and-talk segment at the beginning, followed by an unskippable cutscene that lasts at least 5 minutes. And they literally argue against skipping the cutscene, or even adding a button to skip it, because "only snoytrannies would hate storytelling". I am not even kidding you, the horseshoe has come full circle.
still got 8.5 user score actual fans liked the game despite the flaws
>>727698639>>727698530You guys combined should have just enough braincells to rub together yourselves. Which is more logical?>samsmus can slightly repurpose items designed to work with powersuits for her powersuitOR>samus can just magically wizard any tech she comes near into a powerup right off the floorIf the suit works the way you're claiming (dishonestly), why do you need to find powerups at all? Just magic some random thruster into a the screwattack and space jump. And the plasma beam while we're at it. Find some ice? That's an ice beam, and ice missiles while we're at it!You fucking brainless apes.
>>727698879Was that hte PunchOut studio? In Canada? I think there was a Washington State developer for Nintendo that did Metroid Prime Hunters and PunchOut but got downgraded to support studio seppuku slave mines. Maybe I'm misremembering, I know a studio got downgraded I don't know which one because Luigi's Mansion 3 was made by the PunchOut Wii guys I think. Project Hammer Wii people was who?
>>727698961>8.5>Implying that's good when prime 3 is considered trash and one of the weakest games in the series which sits at a 8.6Naruhodo
>>727698867If you're desperately grasping at straws, I could see you deluding yourself into thinking that, yeah.
>>727699018>samus can just magically wizard any tech she comes near into a powerup right off the floorYes that. The amount of times you destroy a random fucking generator some something and get an upgrade out of it should clue you in. Especially combined with chozo space magic
>>727698792Because you can see her picking it up floating in a room, here >>727698062.
>>727699018Here's a better idea: why not just have Samus find compatible upgrades, instead of making this gigantic asspull that requires Lt. Bazinga to make the powerups to work? Use your half of a braincell to justify that.
>>727698727Chiming in. While it's not specifically from a Pirate's armor, it is in the Phazon Mine facility and it's heavily guarded by Pirate Beam Elites, tucked away in what appears to be a weapon's storage locker that's password protected, which Samus hacks with her visor.Using this environmental storytelling, we can surmise that Samus infiltrated the Pirate base to steal flame enhancing technology from the Pirates in order to enhance the Plasma beam.
>>727699158>The amount of times you destroy a random fucking generator some something and get an upgrade out of it should clue you inSo shit that never happened. Cool, ttanks for just admitting you don't play these games.
Game doesn't become enjoyable until you buy amibo. Then it's a masterpiece. Stop being poor.
>>727699026Project HAMMER was Nintendo Software Technology.Punch-Out/Luigi's Mansion 3/Metroid Prime Federation Force was Next Level Games.
>>727699168Creative liberty. Why are all the upgrades floating, instead of just lying on the floor?
>>727695605TotK is unironically a better open world than GTA, but its a very low bar.
>>727699205Please, read >>727699018
>>727699240>secondary doesn't remember how Samus got the phazon suit
>>727698961>actual fans liked the gameactual fans didn't degrade their view of the series by buying or playing this garbagenintendo shills consoomed and rated it highly
>>727699257Because they are designed to do that. They are specifically made to integrate into shit automatically.>Uuuuuh, the gamecube didn't have the tech to show shit lying in the floor
>>727698961>metacritic user score >famously bombarded by shillbots and haterbots spamming 10/10s and 0/10sThat site is shit. Steam reviews are at least somewhat valid since you can actually see how many hours they've dumped into the game. A shame that Nintendo store doesn't have that basic ass system.
>>727698274I might enjoy the game more if Arthur and his horse didn't control like molasses. I just can't get over the fact that I can crash my horse into a tree like it's a mindless vehicle.
>>727699382>Because they are designed to do that. [citation needed]
>>727699248>that spoilerWow, I said wow. Well good for them, there are parts of Luigi's Mansion 3 that feels like low budget to me (the menus, really), but what a turnaround for the Federation Force 3DS guys. At the end of the day everyone wants to play a good game and seeing them get their feet off the ground and given a second chance is fine. Nintendo Software Technology is the Washington state devs who did Metroid Prime Hunters, thanks for clearing it up.
>>727685967The game has zero replayability. Even the backtracking sucks. You just go back to an old room where there is a missile expansion or something hiding in plain sight but you need the boost ball or some dumb shit to get it. There is no sense of exploration or discovery. In MP1 and MP2 every room had something to find. There were secrets everywhere that made you want to explore and figure things out.
>>727686181true but at least the radio isnt locked in gta (i think)
>>727699325Yeah, a mass of concentrated phazon integrated tech fell on her. And what does phazon do?
>>727699440I cite Metroid Prime 1-4 and Hunters.
>>727699565So Samus LITERALLY ripped someone's phazon suit off of them and put it on herself, and it just magically integrated. Interesting!>b-but it's designed for powersuitsWRONG. The Omega Pirate was literally one of a kind, 10 times her size. You cannot argue that it was designed for Samus to use.>>727699623Where do they say the powerups are designed to float?
>>727692378>was made BY women.ftfy
>>727699309Why do you think only your rules apply to Samus's literal magic armor? Did you miss the part in Prime 3 where it's revealed by the lizard people that Chozo technology is not only science based, but magic based? Or did you miss the developer interviews where they describe Samus's suit as "alive"?How would a GF trooper even begin to understand how to modify something so far out of their field of expertise? The Chozo were nearly completely wiped out and Samus is the only known person to the GF who knows how to operate said armor.Your defense makes no sense and is making random wild assumptions that don't fit the game's lore. If Samus can magically make a flamethrower work from an alien race, she can magically make the tech on Viewros work. Unless Viewros has counter magic or something, in which case Myles would have no fucking clue how to fix it to her suit either way.
>>727686824hyrule field sucked too, tendies never had standards
>>727686358Basically they had made four very linear dungeons that weren't interconnected in any way. There was only a few hours of gameplay. They had to connect them somehow and make the game longer, so they threw in a big empty desert and a bunch of unnecessary cutscenes to drag out the game to make it feel bigger and longer. They could have connected the dungeons together like in MP1, but that would have required a ton of level redesign and tweaking to make the backtracking not feel tedious. MP1 was the only game ever to pull that off, and the geniuses who accomplished that no longer work at Retro.
>>727685967>webm is literally less than one (1) single minute to traverse from one side of the desert to the otherthis is what zoomees are freaking out over?
>>7276989618ish is fair. No Nintendo bonus bullshit, the NPC's are annoying and take away from Metroid's solitude atmosphere. The open world section is useless bloat. The early parts of the game are super linear corridors and the difficulty on normal feels like a super easy mode which makes the progression of power ups feel less impactful. Yes Metroid was never that hard but Prime 4 is another level of easy mode, Hard shouldn't have been locked. Everything else is pretty good, maybe a couple of the bosses are weak but no biggie, usually 1-2 Metroid bosses suck.
>>727686750Weird you'd say that, considering Super Metroid, Zero Mission, and even Dread completely fucking demolish SOTN.
>>727699690>You cannot argue that it was designed for Samus to use.I haven't done that even once. Phazon explicitly integrates itself and shit it has infected into other things. Phazon is an expy of The Thing. It posions and mutates shit in its pure form, and fuses things together when integrated into biology or technology. Why do you think that Metroid Prime was able to just rip the suit off Samus, but none of her other tech?Last chance here. Show me even a single instance of Samus tearing shit off the other machines in stuffing it into her suit, as I've requested, or no more (You)s, you tertiaries.
>>727699937>a majority of the game is unplayable garbage, with a story that rivals Other M in how bad it is>but I need Nintendo to be successful, so 8 out of 10 ^____^
Arguing about the merits of Samus integrating other alien tech into her suit in a series where our protagonist has magical space bird alien DNA is not a serious debate unless you're from Chungus Headquarters Reddit. Our willing suspension of disbelief passes because Samus' Chozo Suit works on space magic. It's why we can buy the surgery she went in Fusion worked the way it was because it's all space magic wizard tech from birds.Samus doesn't need Chungus Federation Troopers to synchronize alien tech into her suit, it has never worked like this before. I don't remember much about Prime 3's gunship upgrades, but it didn't matter if the upgrades for it came from space pirates or the federation or chozo tech. It doesn't matter, all of this shit is space magic for Samus. It's not important and more importantly it does nothing for the gameplay. You should be able to use your upgrades or powerups normally like every other Metroidvania game.Metroid Prime 4 sucks. Get the fuck over it Redditors and quirky Marvel movie dialogue personality chungus faggots.
>>727699937Also the bike in the lava section where you shoot the dragon's weak points just doesn't feel like Metroid, looks way too wacky and "modern" for Prime. It's also just a stupid phase of the fight that should have been cut.
>>727699815>How would a GF trooper even begin to understand how to modify something so far out of their field of expertise?He used the Lamorn's archives (thanks to Samus providing him translation data) to rework lamorn tech into something recognizable as a beam suit weapon. That's why the Fire Shot isn't called the plasma beam, and it requires ammo. PLAY. THE. GAME. It's free on PC.
>>727699998>Phazon explicitly integrates itself and shit it has infected into other things.Then why didn't Samus get the phazon suit the moment she touched phazon, aka at every point prior to fighting the Omega Pirate?
>>727700158Keep reading the post, you can do this.
>>727686883Almost every game is "linear." Truly nonlinear game design where you can beat the game in any order like TOTK isn't even good.Linear just means there is one way forward. You can still see future sections of the game that will be unlocked as you progress and explore, but most of the time there is only one way forward. Your trajectory weaves through the map and you go all over the place. This is brilliant game design and what makes stuff like old Zelda, Metroid, Resident Evil, etc. such masterpieces.Lazy dogshit linear game design had you walking through hallways and corridors and the entire game just feels like you are going from one uninspired place to the next. This kind of game design sucks.Both are "linear" but one gives you a sense of exploration and wonder while the other feels tedious.
>>727700129>He used the Lamorn's archives (thanks to Samus providing him translation data) to rework lamorn tech into something recognizable as a beam suit weapon.So nothing in the game should be compatible with Samus' tech, unless Lt. Bazinga first fixes it for her. Interesting.
>>727699998>or no more (You)s>>727700210uh oh stinky
>>727700262Why? They are powerups designed explicitly for Smaus by the Lamorn.
>>727700084>with a story that rivals Other M in how bad it isLet's not get crazyPrime 4 story is nothing to write home about but I would take Samus saying "he's right behind me isn't he?" over daddy issues and THE BABY
>>727700372Meant for >>727700003
>>727700357But you just said that Lamorn tech is literally incompatible, and only Sergeant Chungus can fix it for her. Make up your mind.
>>727700000
>>727686181wow
>>727700439I didn't say that at all. I said that the tech of a fucking welding machine or cryogenic unit isn't a godamn beam cannon upgrade. NIGGER CAN'T READ!
>>727700510None of it should work for Samus, since you said it was all incompatible. Unless it's specifically made for Samus, she can never integrate it at all. That's why she's incapable of using anything from space pirates.oh wait
>>727700447Honestly they were probably added later in development for them to properly code them to fight the enemies. The black guy does fuck all too.
>>727699920>1 minute of nothing but boring drivingyeah its bad
>>727696645I'd say it's way way worse. Wind Waker was 8 charts/shards in specific locations.This game is literally have to farm crystals for hours aimlessly. So stupid.
>>727700561>since you said it was all incompatible Never said that. I have said that the suit can't integrate thjngs that aren't suit upgrade of some sort (m3aning it CAN use stuff for other suits, like SP, GF, and even Luminoth auit upgrades), but NOT thjngs that aren't suit upgrades (like welding arms and cryogenic freezers).
SPEEDRUN STRATS FOR HITTING GREEN ENERGY REDDIT CHUNGUS SISTERS?
>>727700447>Freind says the game is worse halo 5>Come on now it can't be that bad>He shows me the final fight of going around holding the heal button just like halo 5 guardiansThis is what happens when you onboard 343 employees. Everyone who has 343 on their resume should be immediately blacklisted
>>727700761>aimlesslyThere's one to two per map segment and you pass through segments at a pace of 1 per 2 seconds.
>>727696118Anyone with standards gave up on being a general "Nintendo fan" when Iwata died at the latest. At most we have a couple franchises we still care about and view the rest with antipathy or worse.What's left for "Nintendo fans" are more like "Nintendo adults" who have an unhealthy obsession with the brand and refuse to see the bigger picture. These are the people still invested in console wars like it's still the '90s when the platforms were actually competing with each other, and if they ever admit that Nintendo did something wrong, they'll lose izzat in their imagined console wars. It's gotten worse since the Wii U flopped because now they're scared that any criticism of Nintendo left unchecked will make their products start flopping again.
>>727700871>no true scottsman
>>727700625The feds (and Sylux and the whole opening) were probably added relatively late in development after Tanabe was brought on to salvage the project after its development stagnation while Prime Remastered was being made.
>>727700842Don't try to defend it lol
>>727700773>I have said that the suit can't integrate thjngs that aren't suit upgrade of some sort Why not? Why do we now need some secondary to help samus install upgrades? Why can't she just have the ability to do it herself? Save us an hour of backtracking.
>>727700802Speed runners are not going to play this game.
>>727698332>t-the twitter user with the edited Mario profile picture is just being sarcastic, chud!lol idiotic faggot
>>727700561>None of it should work for SamusNone of the shit designed for the chosen one should work for the chosen oneThat's some classic kindergarten grade intellect right there.
>>727701084delusional
>>727698937oh no 5 minute cutscenes
>>727701114You said it yourself, Samus should NOT be allowed to use any upgrades without permission from Miles.
>>727701043>Save us an hour of backtrackingIt's like 6 minutes per visit, no matter where you are coming from on the map.
>>727686181GTA cities are extremely well designed, living places built for exploration. It's a tad bit different.
>>727701140>Switchsnoy is now defending unskippable cutsceneslol>>727701186>let's waste 6 minutes per trip, for no reasonWhy?
>>727697405>The review scores are pretty spot on.Hilarious. The metascore, as always, is heavily inflated by over-the-top positive reviews from Nintenderos, Nintendo Life, Nintenduo, and other propaganda mills.
>>727701176Nobody said anything like that. Now then, if you can't show me Samus integrating something by ripping it off a broken machine I'm done here.
>>727686591/vr/ already changed it to Willyvania years ago.
>>727701292Can you justify why she shouldn't be able to do that?
>>727700447would Miyamoto have allowed this if he saw it
>>727701259Cry about it, you autistic faggot.
>>727701259>claims an hour of backtracking for every powerup>now it's 6 minutes apiece for 3 of themThose goalposts may as well be sonic the hedgehog.
>>727701186>6 there>12 minute round trip>4 times>Almost an hour of game time wasted to develope a shit characterNaruhodo
>>727701352You cry about it every single time sony does it, but now it's okay when Nintendo does it. That's funny.>>727701397You didn't answer the question. Why waste any time on pointless backtracking?
>>727701448>Why waste any time on pointless backtracking?Cause it's in a Nintendo game and therefore worth it
>>727686181You don't seem to get it, all AAA games need to die. That includes Prime 4 and GTA VI.
>>727701485So you love Metroid: other M. Gotcha.
She has a fucking space ship capable of atmospheric flight, why is she motorcycling across an entire fucking desert instead of just flying?Are they trying to do a Wind Waker but with sand?
>>727701349miyamoto is senile, so>why isn't mario there>why is the controls not gimmicky enough>who's samus>where am I
>>727701589saving the environment
>>727701589it's part of the plot. She gets teleported to this planet without her ship
>>727701448>5 minute cutscene is as bad as an hour long cutscenelmao stupid shitskin
>>727685967>le driving is le badAccording to /v/aggots, GTA VI will also flop.
>>727701780No but it will be shit
>>727686142Theorietically, if someone made a cross between a 3d metroid and kings field game, would people be interested in a game like that?
>>727701749eating shit for 5 minutes or 60 minutes is equally disgusting.
>>727701884but it's only bad when nintendo does it right brownoid?
>>727701780>Being this obtuseDriving and how it's integrated into the game makes all the difference, that's why it was fucking shit in darkest dungeon 2 as well. You wont see any anons whine about driving in need for speed.
>>727687182>trying to enjoy a moody drive down a desert>enjoying the isolation, the feeling of freedom, the peace of solitude>SAMUS?! CAN YOU HEAR ME? HAVE YOU FOUND THE TELEPORTERS SAMUS? YOU CAN CHECK THE MAP IF YOU ARE LOST
>>727701849I just want dungeon crawler in general I thought labyrinth of the demon king would be that but its just a damn puzzle game
>>727701938It's bad when anyone does it. I skip cutscenes in every single game I play. What kinda brain damaged retard looks at a video game and says "I need more storytelling"?
>>727702113I love you ACfag. Never stop
>>727689759>women good
People told me the Jak 2 and 3, and No more Heroes 3 sandboxes were empty and pointless and I didn't have a problem with them. I think I'll be fine
>>727696118Mackenzie is so much worse due to the face he just DOESN'T shut the fuck up, I don't know who thought it was a brilliant idea to make him call you every 5 min's with a quip or to point out something obvious
>>727697791So why did you buy this shit dumbass?How are you still under nintendos spell after all their overpriced low effort dogshit for the last decade? I cant stand you fat fucking losers. Figure it out already, they’re dogshit games made for children.
So this is the gameplay that Nintendo fans love so much. Interesting.
>I'm buying a brand new copy every time you guys criticize this game
Why is the level design FFXIII levels of linear? Like at least make shit loop back on itself.
>>727698656I don't mind the parry as a gameplay option, it's nice to have it as part of Samus' toolkit, but I don't want every enemy designed with the expectation that you parry them. Dread is way better at that than SR was, at least, so it's moving in the right direction.
>>727686962Soulless
>>727687005>Listening to pop radio
>>7276974058/10 isn't really accurate either because yeah while the parts of the game that are like previous entries are good, the fact of the matter is that the desert alone is nothing but a time waster that's not only something you can't just ignore due to it being mandatory for progression but having the ability to just listen to fucking music as a 100% completion reward or a $30 amiibo is absolutely fucked. If you like the Feddie Friends it's a 7/10, if you don't it's a 6/10 because that is just how bad the desert is.
>>727701540NTA, but Other M was never "bad". Ambitious and a little off on execution of some of the ideas it had, but it was never "bad". I liked it.
>>727685967it's time to admit that nintendo can make slop too.
>>727702578>Nintendo fans are unironically defending Other M now
>>727697798purple
>>727686883>>727700224>>727686591If you know how linear they both are then why post the map comparison?
>>727686181I understand playing a GTA.I understand playing a 2nd GTA and then realizing it is the exact same shit.I do not understand playing a 3rd GTA.
Next time you feel like shit, just remember that you're not a Metroid Prime fan
>>727699736Why can it be both? By women, for women.
>>727702861>snoys regularly feel like shitmakes sense
>>727695789>worst levelWhich one, CCL?
>>727702626>Shit sequel>Another shit sequel>Previous shit sequel isn't bad niggers come out of the woodworkSaw it happen with dragon age, star wars and dark souls. Dont give them attention
>>727698092The multiplayer is precisely why I rate it so highly. A standalone Hunters with real controls would be a killer $30 title.
>>727702912You’re obsessed either way children's toys and their quality has only gotten cheaper and shittier. Kill yourself fatass.
>>727697025holy shit fake fan detected. I've seen some dogshit opinions on this site but never a list that is both so incredibly safe and so incredibly wrong at the same time.
>>727702912Missed a spot on that boot, Nintendog
>>727693527I'm going to put my faith into you.
>>727686456This is nothing like that, the atmosphere here is completely barren. Even in the literal Barrens in WoW there was still plenty of atmosphere while you ran the length of the zone 50 times, plus other players running around to interact with.
>>727703090With*
>>727685967>It's okay when red dead 2 does it
>>727702578>Other M was never "bad"
>>727700914That's not how that fallacy works.
>>727700224Dark Souls pre Lord Vessel is the absolute peak of non linear design.
>>727700447Based Vinny Vinesauce, best streamer around.
>>727686962Same desuMajora's Mask optimized the fuck out of Ocarina they also made Goron rolling fun in there
>>727686181i haven't played gta in like almost 16 years but at least that game is good for rping stupid shit.
>>727698092>I cant rate it because it excels at what it aims to beThen just stop rating games entirely, you're not good at it.
>>727703202There’s actually stuff to do in red dead. You’d know that if you put your gay little Fischer Price toys down
>>727703103Metroidvania is my favorite genre. My ranking is objectively correct
>>727686181>all the third worlders angry at someone not worshipping kikestar slopAll open world garbage is just that, garbage.
>>727703123Enjoy. =D
>>727695268Being groundbreaking doesn't make it better.Nintendo already knew after OoT that Hyrule Field was a dogshit idea the biggest proof is that MM field is not like that at all.There are ZERO(0) reasons to do OOT Hyrule Field again, let alone 30 years later
>>727703423You just proved my point that you're not a metroid fan by calling it "metroidvania" instead of "metroid style". I wouldn't touch liberal song or hollow leftist with a ten foot pole. Call me when NEStroid is in your top 3. Because then I'll know that you've matured a little.
>>727703649>Game where not only can you commit racist genocide, you can also commit 4 anti-gay hate crimes>Liberal
>>727685967Would people defend this if they put puzzles spread out across the empty area?
>>727703649Shut the fuck up, bitch.
>>727695930Snoys and other assorted faggotry from the 500 dollar RAM sphere can't recognize Rick Moranis
>>727703735>that part in silksong where Hornet gathers the (((mosquito))) population into gas chambers and kills them allWhat did Team Cherry mean by this?
>>727697025Prime and Dread are absolutely not the best Metroid games. WTF are you smoking?
>>727686750I'm playing the first Bloodstained and the game is pretty good ten hours in.Old guy still has it.
>>727703748If there was actual content in the desert, sure. Anything to make it not a bland slog.
>>727685967I like Oats too. But he's very vocal about not really liking any of the Prime games. He pretty much plays exclusively Super Metroid.
>>727703897Prime, Dread, and Super are undeniably the top 3 best Metroid games. Anyone who disagrees is objectively, subjectively, empirically, rationally, platonically, Biblically, Quranically, and emotionally wrong.
>>727703948>Put content in empty spaces>NOOOOOO THERES SHRINES KOROKS AND TOWERS JUST LIKE UBISLOP>remove content >NOOOOOOO WHERES THE CONTENTgamers, like women, don't know what they want
>>727704045Super and AM2R are better than both. I'd probably rank Dread above Prime because I can't stand the Prime series.
>>727704065No, Nintendo haters just complain about everything.
>>727704065I never once complained about BotW/TotK. In fact, I like both of them.
>>727704163AM2R is a great game held back by being based on Metroid 2, making it more linear than necessary and making the boss fights not as interesting as in other games.I still have my NTSC copy of Prime where you can do the early Space Jump skip, and with that it's the best game in the series unequivocally.
>>727704065>put GOOD content in empty spaces>game is now goodTerraria continues to BTFO AAA trannies at every turn.
>>727696118It's Metroid Prime fans, they've been like this for many years. They blindly defended the Prime series even its faults. I've been waiting many years for this day to come. The time for Primefags to eat shit.
>>727687005French House is good though
>>727704045See I can tell you're a fake fan because you don't think Prime 2 is better than Prime 1. It's not something that has been studied formally but I've been a fan of Metroid for a long long time and I've noticed the most dedicated fans always put Prime 2 over Prime 1. The fact that you put 1 over 2 makes me think you Metroid is not your favorite series but probably just a minor enjoyment for you.
>>727703920I recently played it for the first time too this is a good game and actually surprisingly difficult I found myself cheesing the last few bosses.
>>727686824Millennials were side hopping to get through the monotony quickly
>>727696986It won't, 2D Metroid won, admit, Prime faggot, I said your series couldn't beat 2D Metroid and now we're seeing it. 2D Metroid will get more games, Prime will finally die.
>It gets even better when the Stockholm syndrome has set in
>>727699860>the geniuses who accomplished that no longer work at Retro.where are they now?
>>727687869>hyping up drag x drive before release>it releases>they never mention it ever again
>>727704065Maybe they should try making a game with level design instead of a sandbox that can't support worthwhile content.
>>727704219The best part about samus that she's not sexualized you massive faggot. Don't take the only good female character in anything ever and lump her in with all the other sluts.
>>727699026Software Technology was the one that made F-Zero 99
>>727704749They're hanging out in the same barcade right now as the old Rare devs.
>>727704065What the people want are interconnected levels that loop back to each other, not Hyrule Field where everything is separate. That 1 change makes having to go back to Mackenzie a nonfactor because it could drop you off close to him and you'd be soifacing at the interconnectivity like when everything would loop back to Firelink Shrine.
>>727704851Fuck off, reddit.
>>727694043You'll soon have enough to build a wall to shield yourself from reality.
>>727704851THANK YOU. Finally someone understands that Metroid shouldn't be gooner/coomer bait.>b-but the ending scenesThey're 5 seconds long for a reason. They mean nothing in the context of the main game. Infact, if Prime 4 has one good thing about it, it's that they removed ZSS from it. Death to gooners.>>727704965Put down the pornhub link.
>>727704965Yeah it's very reddit of me to hate most fictional women except samus.
>>727702695the comparison just shows the maps in MP1 were infinitely more interesting than the boring straight lines of MP4
>>727685967>Mackenzie popupWe are post-parody
>>727704993>>727705024Fuck off, reddit.
>>727704993>>b-but the ending scenesshe's taking her suit off because she's done for the day. Nothing sexual about it.
>>727694043the snoys thank you for ruining future games when they end up being just like mp4 due to the sales numbers. i hope you enjoy the next mario game having the flower from wonder making quippy comments in your year constantly.
>>727705085It's gross. why would I want to see it?
>>727698937Please stop comparing this piece of shit to Tears of the Kingdom. All Nintendo fans look down on Primefags and the Prime series, always have, always will.
>>727697338>his favorite M Night movie is the one where the critic is the villainAlso>Samus can have emotionsWHAT FUCKING EMOTIONS
>>727705151I think video games are art and therefore might contain things that are not necessarily appealing.
>>727704993Resetera coded post.
>>727698575Same with regular piracy. It's why no one took up the job of making a denuvo cracker for a long time.
>>727704065Have they tried putting content in the empty areas that isn't formulaic copy pasted trash? What happened to handcrafted unique locations like all nintendo games had in the 64 era? Now its all designed on a spreadsheet before being shipped off to the production sweatshop where its assembly-lined together with zero passion.
>>727702578It was bad but Prime faggots hated it for the wrong reasons.
>>727695532Old Resident Evil games.
>>727705276It's probably an actual woman.
>>727705039>interesting
>>727685967It's over
Duke nukem forever 2.0
>>727705152It's all the same slop.>>727705250>>727705276Gooner coded posts.
>>727706268Shut up, tranny
>>727685967KINOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>727704851>An autistic mute is the only good female character everTendies would rather die than play one (1) jrpg. Actually Zelda has good female companions too like Midna.
>>727706523
>>727706634>You like samus even though she's muteKeep going. You've almost figured out why I think samus is the best female character.
>>727704065>"You must choose between shitty time wasting content in this vast open world or absolutely nothing in this vast open world or else you're never satisfied"Maybe, and I know this sounds crazy, maybe don't put an open world in your game if it only exists to pad the fucking runtime and you have no ideas on how to make it enjoyable?
>>727686750Metroidvania really only encompassed Super Metroid, Symphony of the Night, Circle of the Moon and Aria of Sorrow. It was already downhill after that and has relied on no-name independent games to produce anything.
>>727704851I call you Primefags because you're very gay and you even trooned out. My younger self was right about Prime fans. Samus not talking is proof that Retro doesn't understand Samus just like Sakamoto stated back in 2009.
